Gut reactions to GoS

[Regina]

First listening:
Wasn't entirely sure about Great Day or Time Precious Time.
Liked/loved the stuff I heard before (Loved: Did You Miss Me, Right Place to Fade, Wait for You. Like: GoS)
Wasn't sure about Love Runs Deeper and Bel Air Rain
LOVED Underground and Treason.

Second listening:
Really like Time Precious Time, Great Day is growing on me.
Still like/love all the stuff I've heard before (see list above)
Not crazy about Love Runs Deeper, even less crazy about Bel Air Rain
Adore Underground, really love Treason.

We'll see what happens with the third listening party.

Over and out.

[TrueFaith77]

lol

that was fun. i wish i had friends to share my mac enthusiasms with (my friends aren't mac fans). so i'm glad for The Ledge. I don't want to say much til I write about it, but my gut reaction (subject to change) is that this is the most satisfying Lindsey solo album.

[ajmccarrell]

Wow! You said something negative, "Shackin' Up" will have your head for this!!!!! :laugh:

[shackin'up]

Wow! You said something negative, "Shackin' Up" will have your head for this!!!!! :laugh:

Come on stop it. Everybody can say something negative. It's about taste. You said something stupid. That's something else.

[David]

I always wanted to be a first respondent! Lindsey puts a Kingston Trio-ish melody -- redolent of the folky early '60s, Beach Boys ballads, & legendary venues like the Hungry I -- on every album nowadays. Sometimes it's an actual cover of a Trio song (or song recorded by the Trio). On OUT OF THE CRADLE, it was ALL MY SORROWS. On SAY YOU WILL, it was STEAL YOUR HEART AWAY. On UNDER THE SKIN, it was CAST AWAY DREAMS. On this current album, it's DID YOU MISS ME. These are in some ways the best songs on their respective albums.

[Regina]

I was listening outdoors the first two times.
I'm listening in my teeny, tiny home office now.
The guitar work (and, mind you, I know nothing about nothing except what I like to hear and what sounds good to my own ears), is incredible on those first two songs.
(That's all I'm up to so far;-)

I do love these first few times you listen to an album.
It's so exciting.

New Stuff! (From LINDSEY! Man, I was on the Ledge a decade ago and waiting for GoS seemed like waiting for Godot). He finally came through, and in such a big way. I'm very proud of the guy.

[TrueFaith77]

I was listening outdoors the first two times.
I'm listening in my teeny, tiny home office now.
The guitar work (and, mind you, I know nothing about nothing except what I like to hear and what sounds good to my own ears), is incredible on those first two songs.
(That's all I'm up to so far;-)

I do love these first few times you listen to an album.
It's so exciting.

New Stuff! (From LINDSEY! Man, I was on the Ledge a decade ago and waiting for GoS seemed like waiting for Godot). He finally came through, and in such a big way. I'm very proud of the guy.

awww. it is exciting. i'm proud of him too!

[vivfox]

You said something stupid. That's something else.
I know I stand in line before you think you'll have the time to spend an evening with me. And if we go some place to dance I know that there's the chance, you won't be leaving with me. And afterwards we'll find ourselves a quiet little place and have a drink or two. And then I'll go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like I love you.

Please be nice to ajmccarrell. He has the right to have an opinion without being called stupid.

[Regina]

OK-the only one I'm not feeling now is Bel Air Rain. Love Runs Deeper is sort of growing on me.

I think the cd is great. It's not as cohesive, perhaps, as OOTC or UTS (in my mind) but I still like it a lot. And (also slightly on the negative side, but not really) I think I don't identify with a lot of the lyrics, whereas with some of his other works, his lyrics have cut right to the heart (which he would probably find rather ironic).

But I still think there are lovely, brilliant things on this CD and I'm planning on having a blast at the concerts.

Just 3 1/2 weeks and counting...(or something like that).

[michelej1]

I am not going to like Time Precious Time no matter what, but it might help if he didn't start off with a falsetto that he can no longer handle.

Then, I can't exactly say he's singing with a melody, but whatever faint tune the sung part possesses, it has nothing in common with the guitar which is so overpowering and strummy that I think it's going to make me afraid of Mandarin-tinged music for the rest of my life.

To have this song second on the album is to risk some people not sticking around for the other 8 tracks, I fear. On the other hand, Great Day is such a stark contrast to it, that maybe they will journey on through the remainder hoping the rest will be different as well.

I guess TPT's better live than it is on the record. Still I'm rather scared that Lindsey will keep this song in the setlist for the rest of his life, because he seems to like it a great deal. I'm so afraid.

Other than that, I think the rest of the album is superb. I think I'd rank Treason as #9, but it's beautiful as a closer. The other 8 songs . . . I love them all. I don't even think I could put them in order of preference.

Michele

[ajmccarrell]

I know I stand in line before you think you'll have the time to spend an evening with me. And if we go some place to dance I know that there's the chance, you won't be leaving with me. And afterwards we'll find ourselves a quiet little place and have a drink or two. And then I'll go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like I love you.

Please be nice to ajmccarrell. He has the right to have an opinion without being called stupid.

Thank you very much, I really needed that! (blow kiss) :xoxo:

[Nico]

Although it isn't a new song, and most of us have heard it too much and played it out at this point, I really truly feel that Right Place to Fade (or Twist of Fate) has got to be one of the best songs Lindsey has ever written. And I think the lyrics are incredible. I have to go back to it because it sounds so much better to me when it's so clear and his vocals are out in the front like that. I'm a little sad that he hasn't put it in his set list so far, but I have hope.

[michelej1]

Although it isn't a new song, and most of us have heard it too much and played it out at this point, I really truly feel that Right Place to Fade (or Twist of Fate) has got to be one of the best songs Lindsey has ever written.

Although I was tired of BTLH and SYHA by the time they appeared on Say You Will, I'm not burned out on any of the Gift of Screws songs, even if we've had them for years now. The ones on this album don't happen to be the ones that I listened to repeatedly, so they are all taking on a new life for me now. Michele

[BombaySapphire3]

Please be nice to ajmccarrell. He has the right to have an opinion without being called stupid.

really .AJM and I have our differences no doubt but even I never went there..I don't think he is stupid at all either..just needs to get a little more life in under his belt maybe?:shrug:

[ajmccarrell]

really .AJM and I have our differences no doubt but even I never went there..I don't think he is stupid at all either..just needs to get a little more life in under his belt maybe?:shrug:


Thanks Bombay! It's nice to know even my sometimes enemies think I might actually be a decent guy at heart. I was feeling pretty low after that pummeling I took, but you've perked my day up. :) I'm feeling much better now.

My wife and I are having a GOS party when it drops at midnight. Usually she doesn't like LB, but she's making an exception.

[AliceLover]

Although it isn't a new song, and most of us have heard it too much and played it out at this point, I really truly feel that Right Place to Fade (or Twist of Fate) has got to be one of the best songs Lindsey has ever written. And I think the lyrics are incredible. I have to go back to it because it sounds so much better to me when it's so clear and his vocals are out in the front like that. I'm a little sad that he hasn't put it in his set list so far, but I have hope.

I agree Nico. Everyone sort of seems to put TRPTF in the same category in likeness with Wanna Wait for You and Love Runs Deeper, but I think TRPTF stands out so much more. Its a catchy song and there are so many layers to it. I downloaded Twist of Fate in October of 07 and as of now it has 600 plays on my Ipod. Its just an incredible song. I think there should be another thread dedicated to it.

[BTFLCHLD]

I am not going to like Time Precious Time no matter what
oh i love it so :]

[Regina]

Ah, Michele. You made me laugh before I've even finished my second cup of coffee.

It's a REALLY weird song, but I like weird, sometimes. I'm not a fan of early-Lindsey-solo-weirdness at all.

Guess what? There was a commercial for the CD this very morning on one of the morning shows (my mother was watching so I don't know which one it was). I was in the other room and heard Lindsey's voice, and ran in just as they said "Available now." And mom informed me that I was not hallucinating (in an auditory way) at 7:20 AM.

Always good to know.

But, I was very pleased that they at least threw one commercial his way.

[fleetwoodguy79]

Ok I was just able to get a good couple of listens.

My Gut Reaction: Lindsey's best solo work yet. Unfortunately though, it's not a perfect album for me. "Time Precious Time" is a terrible fit at track 2, completely takes away from the pace that Great Day set as an opener. Highlights for me are "Love Runs Deeper" (new favorite Lindsey song!), "Underground', and "Great Day". I think I've heard GOS and Right Place to Fade (Twist of fate :D ) too many times over the last few years to have a new perspective, but to me they sound cheesy at times.

And under 40 minutes is NOT enough Lindsey for me! :) I really hope he continues to write and puts out more albums like this, big :thumbsup: for me!!

"To the left, to the right, up and down, in and out, and around, that's right baby! THAT'S RIGHT BABY! Uh huh uh huh uh huh" - LOL!!!

[TrueFaith77]

I also posted a poll up on my blog, with star-ratings:

http://heroesarehardtofind.blogspot.com/

[shackin'up]

Please be nice to ajmccarrell. He has the right to have an opinion without being called stupid.

Who's calling him stupid. I just said his remarks were respectless, arrogant and stupid. Maybe he's a nice guy. Who knows. What I DO know is that he gave us the B/N live-recordings. I'll be thankful for that untill I draw my terminal breath.

[Richard B]

I agree Nico. Everyone sort of seems to put TRPTF in the same category in likeness with Wanna Wait for You and Love Runs Deeper, but I think TRPTF stands out so much more. Its a catchy song and there are so many layers to it. I downloaded Twist of Fate in October of 07 and as of now it has 600 plays on my Ipod. Its just an incredible song. I think there should be another thread dedicated to it.

It is an incredible song.
It worked so well on Adventures in Wild California while those skysurfers were doing their thing.

[ajmccarrell]

Who's calling him stupid. I just said his remarks were respectless, arrogant and stupid. Maybe he's a nice guy. Who knows. What I DO know is that he gave us the B/N live-recordings. I'll be thankful for that untill I draw my terminal breath.

Well, then it'd be nice if you showed a little respect. You've been an ass since yesterday. If I ever get anything like the BN live recordings again, I'll certainly hesitate before I share it again. I am actually a very nice guy, but you've been pissing me off to no end and have been misrepresenting what I said, as well as assigning motives that don't exist simply because I have disagreed with you on GOS. I even overall really like the album. I just think OOTC was his best. :distress:

[Farrah]

OK, here we go:

- Wait for You and Love Runs Deeper are (forgive my lack of musical vocabulary here) positively freakin' joyous. They're joyous songs with (relatively) dark lyrics that don't contradict the sound, and I love that Lindsey can do that.

- Overall, I don't like it as much as Under the Skin and Out of the Cradle. It doesn't have the same kind of Lindseyesque "unity" we'd expect.

- Time Precious Time is growing on me more and more, and I really want to like it because I love "Happy ... half-empty ... this must be home."

- Great Day's kind of sexy. I dunno. (No one will agree. I accept this fact. ;))

- Right Place to Fade IS Twist of Fate!!! And it still sounds like he's singing Twist of Fate ...

- I expected this album to have more of an OOTC sound than a UTS-like sound, but I'm nevertheless enjoying dancing to Lindsey. And I'm looking forward to dancing at the concerts next month.

[Maccafan5000]

- Great Day's kind of sexy. I dunno. (No one will agree. I accept this fact. ;))


You are DEFINITELY not alone!!! I thought the very same thing, especially after hearing the audience recordings from UCLA and Seattle. I think it's the way he growls out the verses and in the live rendition throws in the little yelp afterwards, "Ow!"

And then there are the lyrics.... it might just be my dirty mind but they are SMOKIN. "A star crossed lover, Getting hotter and hotter, I didn’t mean to hover, I just hate to love her" and "The currents they caught her, Hiding in my room, Mirrors in her eyes, She was wet, she was soaking" :lol:

[Livia]

People are gonna wonder which lines Will wrote. :laugh:

[Farrah]

And then there are the lyrics.... it might just be my dirty mind but they are SMOKIN. "A star crossed lover, Getting hotter and hotter, I didn’t mean to hover, I just hate to love her" and "The currents they caught her, Hiding in my room, Mirrors in her eyes, She was wet, she was soaking" :lol:

Yes, and the way he sings "love her," rhyming it with "hover." I guess I've just never heard him "work" the lyrics that way.

I'm glad I'm not alone in this. :wavey:

[mylittledemon]

Great Day--i like the guitar solo. Nothing else about it.
Time Precious Time--I think he wore that rolling pattern thing out a bit on the UTS album.
Did You Miss Me--probably the strongest song on the album.
Wait For You--not too shabby. The repeating intro guitar riff kinda gets grating after awhile.
Love Runs Deeper--i only like the last 60 seconds
Bel Air Rain---very pretty guitar parts and I like his vocal.
The Right Place to Fade--It's just...too noisy. Too busy. Not a solid track.
Gift of Screws--I just don't like this one at all.
Underground--This one fits in with the UTS album quite well. I dig it.
Treason--Great lyrics. Great mix. Sounds good.

Overall, I don't think the album is great. I don't think it's horrible either though.

[MacMan]

I think it's a pretty solid album - but one that's way to short for my liking.... It needs one maybe two more tracks to it... It's over too soon leaving me wanting more! I suppose that's a good thing. I was hoping for an itunes bonus, but nope!

The only two songs I'm not 100% sold on YET are Time Precious Time and Treason. TPT I think his guitar playing is absolutely brilliant on it and I could just listen to that! I just can't mesh his playing with the vocals... I'm sure it will grow on me with repeated listens...

Treason - to me sounds a bit draggy, needs the pace picked up abit... Nothing wrong with the music, his playing or the lyrics, just the overall pace of it is abit slow for my taste, but I'll find something in it to like, I usually do if something doesn't grab me at first.

The rest...

Great Day - I think its a neat song - it's groovy in a subtle way with his rapid tapping...

Did You Miss Me - I've loved this song since I first heard it... Probably the most universally accessible song on the disc, I can see why they stuck this one out there to radio. Could end up a classic like Trouble.

Wait For You - Can't complain about this at all.... Great full sound & backed up by Mick and John - what more could you ask for.. This would sound great live.

Love Runs Deeper - I love that army of guitars sound that comes at you in the chorus....

Bel Air Rain - Perfect! This one needs to be played really really loud! There's no beat in the song except for the clicking sound, but man is this one HOT! And the ending is beyond.

The Right Place To Fade - I've always liked it, but it's hard to listen to it with new ears since i've heard it so much. Same with Gift of Screws... I love it with all the weird sounds he makes with his screaming & yelping and I'm happy to finally know what the hell he's saying!

Underground - Probably my favorite on the cd - just a lovely song.

Overall, a nice mix of songs with some similar to UTS and others more upbeat rock songs... I like it!

[SandyMac]

My gut reaction is "My God, Lindsey is on FIRE", He can make his guitar sing.
My favorites so far for the first listen are Great Day, Did you Miss Me, Wait for You, and Bel Air Rain.
Edit: I am so loving "Underground"
The only song I really didn't care for was Time Precious Time, but overall I am so EXCITED about this new CD.
Rock On Lindsey !!!! (I so wish he was coming closer to Washington DC)

[Nico]

- Great Day's kind of sexy. I dunno. (No one will agree. I accept this fact. ;))


Wait a minute, I said the SAME thing when I read those lyrics. And it is a sexy song! I'm uneasy about that since it is co-written with a 10 year-old, even if it was just the chorus, his name is on it.

[michelej1]

She was wet, she was soaking" :lol:

Ah yeah it's sexy and I ride the double entendre for all it's worth.

Michele

[tdfwiner]

My gut reaction is "My God, Lindsey is on FIRE", He can make his guitar sing.
My favorites so far for the first listen are Great Day, Did you Miss Me, Wait for You, and Bel Air Rain.
Edit: I am so loving "Underground"
The only song I really didn't care for was Time Precious Time, but overall I am so EXCITED about this new CD.
Rock On Lindsey !!!! (I so wish he was coming closer to Washington DC)

The State Theatre show in Falls Church two years ago was amazing and it was the closest he's actually come to DC since OOTC and I really hope he plays there again. As a matter of fact, in relation to the other thread I started, it'd be the perfect venue to film a show. All standing room up front so you can really see the audience moving to the music and their reactions, unlike the deadpan audience in Soundstage and the tame, seated one in Bass Hall.

The album is absolutely mind blowing if you play it on a good pair of speakers with the lights off and the volume up. You don't really get it as much with earphones, but on speakers the stereo mix does almost sound three-dimensional.

Bel Air Rain is the song of the moment for me. When that guitar kicks in and Lindsey's vocals on the chorus are soooo powerful :thumbsup:

[chriskisn]

Hmm...listened to GoS for the first time last night. Didn't like it. Listened again a bit today, still didn't like it. Then again, I'm not a big Lindsey fan. However, I have to say that I REALLY didn't like Under the Skin, so its an improvement on that.

[SandyMac]

The State Theatre show in Falls Church two years ago was amazing and it was the closest he's actually come to DC since OOTC and I really hope he plays there again. As a matter of fact, in relation to the other thread I started, it'd be the perfect venue to film a show. All standing room up front so you can really see the audience moving to the music and their reactions, unlike the deadpan audience in Soundstage and the tame, seated one in Bass Hall.

The album is absolutely mind blowing if you play it on a good pair of speakers with the lights off and the volume up. You don't really get it as much with earphones, but on speakers the stereo mix does almost sound three-dimensional.

Bel Air Rain is the song of the moment for me. When that guitar kicks in and Lindsey's vocals on the chorus are soooo powerful :thumbsup:

I was there at the State Theater. Great show, so yes, I agree, that venue would be awesome for a recording. :thumbsup:

[Gazza]

From Wait For You to Gift Of The Screws the album f'n rocks. I quite like Great Day as well.

Time Precious Time, Underground and Treason all sound like they should be on Under The Skin.

[GoS]

Pre-listening-
I was a little bit skeptical about Bel Air Rain, Underground and Great Day just by the names.

First Listening-
All of my questions about those three were answered. I was reminded of why I love his music and especially the GoS Demos. Not crazy about TPT but like it.

Second Listening-
Couldn't put it down. I love the lyrics.

[tdfwiner]

I've listened to the whole album thru twice and individual songs a lot and I don't think the last two songs, Underground and Treason, really fit the album. They aren't bad songs but they're both kinda diet-Lindsey and lack the edge that the rest of the songs have...a little too adult contemporary or something I guess.

Some might argue that Time Precious Time fits this category as well, but that particular song I think does does fit GOS well. TPT is a little darker and more urgent than anything on UTS and the chorus has that edge that I think helps it mesh well with most of the rest of GOS.

[Hawkeye]

To quote Lindsey but subbing out the word "Cycles" for "Lindsey"

This album reinforces my faith in Lindsey!!!

I freaking love this album. Under the Skin I was Eh at first, then it grew on me, then it grew off me :laugh: Now other then Castaway Dreams and Down on Rodeo the rest of the album could just be thrown put for me. But I just got GOS a couple hours and have listened to it three times, individual songs more.

- Great Day is MY new favorite Lindsey song. Love Runs Deeper may be the overwhelming majority favorite and it has its own special thread along with Bel Air Rain, Great Day is whats the **** for me. Will Buckingham needs to do more writing for his dad, so we get more Great Day's and less Flying Down Junipers, treason and time precious times :laugh:

- Despite what I just said right above I don't think Time Precious Time is horrible, in fact as far as his sped up guitar songs go, I prefer it to Not Too Late. Just not a highlight of this album

- I don't get what you all see in Did You Miss Me. It's my second least favorite song next to Treason. I just think its very blah and generic. Better then half of UTS but still blah.

- Wait For You is one of the few of the original GOS songs I just never downloaded, so its a brand new song for me, and WOW.

- Love Runs Deeper is not as good as Great Day but is great. The guitar work is so classic Lindsey. It reminds me of the guitar solo fromk Turn It On without his annoying Turn it On vocals.

- Lindsey has been messing with that danmed sped up guitar thing since Red Rover on SYW, and he finally perfects it here. this is By Far his best of those kinds of songs (Red Rover, Say goodbye, Try For the Sun, Not Too Late, Time Precious Time, probably others im forgetting) it's no contest. Everything about Bel Air Rain is perfection and yes it deserves that thread of its own, it's my 2nd favorite new song.

- Lindsey needs to be confronted on this Right Place to Fade bull****. Im never gonna get used to it. Ive known this one forever but its still in the upper half of the album.

- The title song is quite possibly tied with great day for best song, its just ive known GOS is great for 5 years, and only today have I been hit the greatness and freshness of Great Day so that puts it ahead.

- Underground is an OK song until the 2nd half of it and it becomes a really good song.

- Treason is the albums weak link but is better then Flying Down Juniper

My only big complaint is if you review my review he's playing all my least favorites in concert (Treason, Did You Miss Me and Time Precious Time) and omitting the 3 I freaking love (Wait For You, Bel Air Rain and Right Place to Fade) I am at least pumped that the opening song is Great day :blueblob: And I think I made the right choice not to go to any UTS shows and to go to a GOS show, since they're basically the same shows with GOS songs instead of UTS songs.

[CarterNix]

I've listened to the album through probably around about five times now, and I love it the more I listen to it.

After being a bit disappointed with a number of the songs on UTS, I was worried the new songs on this album might not stand up compared to the older songs that have been circulating the internet for years - my fears were completely dispelled when I heard the opening track.

In my haze of admiration and enjoyment of this album, I'm tempted to say that this is my favourite work of his, with or without Fleetwood Mac. The only track I don't enjoy is 'Time Precious Time' - I skip it every time now.

This is an excellent album, which in my view fully affirms that Lindsey is indeed a genius, or a 'visionary' as he would put it.

And if Lindsey's people look at this forum.... please, please bring the tour to the UK. We would love it!

[Tango]

Gut reactions- this album is classic solo Lindsey and he's having a 'great day' with his guitar! Great Day is a wonderful start. I haven't totally warmed up to Time Precious Time. His guitar has a fluid sound to it, reinforced by the lyrics "half deep half empty," but I am too impatient with the song itself. I listened through it twice, but I was fighting an impulse to hit "skip."

I already loved Did You Miss Me, and Wait For You was a powerful rocker follow up!!! How can you go wrong by including an arachnid? ;) It's no black widow, but it made me smile. No one knows his name, but I think that passing tarantula will hold his own just fine.

Then, POW, another rocker! Love Runs Deeper could well be my favorite on this whole album! THIS is what I've been waiting for, and Lindsey delivers it! I have had this one on replay ALOT! This one song, to me, is the core of the album!

Bell Air Rain is a good song. It's got that running water thing happening again, but it's not as grating to me like Time Precious Time was, until the end of the song. There's a lot of personal references in it-- that's what makes it interesting, but it's not one of the stronger outtings on the album to me.

The Right Place To Fade is a delightful song and it's sure a keeper! It's energized, it's fun, it's optimistic-- way to go Lindsey! :)

Gift Of Screws is a lot of fun, and, yes, Lindsey's manical laughing is hysterical! I have no idea what he's talking about "to the left, to the right," but he's totally playing and having a good time and it translates well.

Underground is a pretty song. It's no rocker, but Lindsey likes those quieter pretty ones from time to time, and it works. I don't think he sold his heart for the dreams in his head, but only he can answer that one. What's that all about?

Treason. I was curious to hear the words and listen to what this song would sound like: it's very sad. As Elton John sings it, 'sad songs say so much.' I really like this song. I bet Elton would too. ;)

[Front Row Fred]

I've been listening for about 30 minutes and so far I'm loving it!

[dontlookdown]

I think it's a really strong album.
Not sure if it will sink in to the degree that Under The Skin did for me; but I like
that it's short and concise - like Rumours.

Some of the layers of sped-up backing vocals are a little on the shrill side for my taste,
but there always seems to be a great guitar solo waiting to make up for that.

A lot of it reminds me of the production on Go Insane, which is not really a sound I'm in love with - but I know a lot of fans are.

I love Great Day and Treason and Bel Air Rain.

As a whole group of songs, I think I have to say that it's a great Lindsey Buckingham record - and one that should please the masses and commercial radio.

[michelej1]

Gift Of Screws is a lot of fun, and, yes, Lindsey's manical laughing is hysterical! I have no idea what he's talking about "to the left, to the right," but he's totally playing and having a good time and it translates well.


Aside from "no one knows my name, walking down the street baby" the GOS ending are my favorite extraneous lyrics on the albu. They don't add anything to the song or its meaning, but they sound really cool, especially since he's using a deep and natural voice, "to the left, to the right, up and down, in and out, and around." I love it.

As for Right Place to Fade, I'd like to get a little tedious and psychotic here (ha, situation normal). Having that lyric revealed reminded me of an article I read when Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono skiied into trees within 6 days of each other. The writer said that Sonny (after having drifted many years as a Hollywood hasbeen, working only occasionally on Fantasy Island, Love Boat or a game show) died at the peak of his career. Just at the right time for all of his accomplishments to be recognized and appreciated, when they wouldn't have been, if he'd hit that tree just a few years earlier.

The writer also pointed out that Michael Kennedy, a civic-minded young man who used his time and money to help the poor and his community, died when the most prominent thing he'd ever done was sleep with his underage babysitter (whose parents were friends of the family) and then claim he had a "sexual addiction." What he did was awful, but it's still sad that it obscured everything else he'd quietly accomplished in life. He died long before the good in his legacy could be weighed against the bad and be placed in context.

When I hear the phrase right place to fade, it makes me think of how, fair or not, people are so often judged for the present, rather than for their lives as a whole. And those people who find the exact, precise "right place to fade" are the rare and lucky ones.

I don't know what I hear on the record, but if Lindsey says that the words are "right place to fade" and not "twist of fate," I'm happy to believe it, because "right place to fade" works so well for me.

Michele

[BombaySapphire3]

As a whole group of songs, I think I have to say that it's a great Lindsey Buckingham record - and one that should please the masses and commercial radio.

It is great Lindsey Buckingham record..seldom has a near 60 year old with 35 years in the recording bussiness sounded this vital.It makes me proud to be a Fleetwood Mac fan...There are songs on here that in another time could have been hits to be certain, Did You Miss Me and Love Runs Deeper to name two .However there is no way commercial radio or the masses are going to embrace them or this album as unfair as that is.

[Tango]

Who would EVER imagine that an obscure Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) poem has been further squeezed by one very maniacal Lindsey Buckingham in 2008? :laugh: If there was any remaining attar in that rose, Lindsey wrung it out. If the English departments ever get a chance to hear this song, they'll love it!

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Today we are going to discuss Emily Dickinson's Gift Of Screws!

[michelej1]

Who would EVER imagine that an obscure Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) poem has been further squeezed by one very maniacal Lindsey Buckingham in 2008?

Next up Lindsey, think Jane Austen.

Michele

[SNLB]

I've been listening to Gift Of Screws since Tuesday. I honestly can't put it above either Out Of The Cradle (my favorite Lindsey solo album) or Under The Skin for that matter. I like it, but maybe it needs to grow on me a little more. When I first heard Did You Miss Me, I loved it and still do. I think the chorus to Love Runs Deeper is one of the best things on the album. My favorite song is The Right Place To Fade and I wish he'd have that in the setlist over, maybe Gift Of Screws (but I enjoy Gift Of Screws). I think the guitar playing on Time Precious Time is awesome and even more awesome live, but the chorus is a bit repititious. I do like Underground, great melody, and the more I hear Treason, the more I'm liking it. It may be too new for me and I do like the album, but Out Of The Cradle still makes my heart skip a beat! ;) (Not that I should be comparing albums...)

[bucklind17]

- I don't get what you all see in Did You Miss Me. It's my second least favorite song next to Treason. I just think its very blah and generic. Better then half of UTS but still blah.



I feel the EXACT same way! I felt almost guilty for not loving "Did You Miss Me" after all the praise it got when first released, but I STILL can't get into it too much. It falls in the exact same place for me, right ahead of the exact same song. And again, still like it more than a good number of songs on UTS.

My fave on the album at this point is "Great Day". Just loving everything about it.

[Farrah]

If the English departments ever get a chance to hear this song, they'll love it!

I don't know, Tango, I don't know. ;)

Incidentally, much of "Right Place To Fade" (which I still really really really want to call "Twist of Fate") is written in rather perfect iambic pentameter. :laugh:

[Nico]

My fave on the album at this point is "Great Day". Just loving everything about it.

I know right?. It's an incredible song, and it makes him sound so musically fresh. I really think DYMM is a perfect pop song in every sense, but that doesn't mean it's my favorite. I love the sound, but too perfect gets on my nerves. Unless its Out of the Cradle.

[Tango]

I don't know, Tango, I don't know. ;)

Incidentally, much of "Right Place To Fade" (which I still really really really want to call "Twist of Fate") is written in rather perfect iambic pentameter. :laugh:

C'mon professor; admit it. You love it! :laugh:

Michele, I like how you think! :)

Come on lurkers. What do YOU think of this album?

[Forshorn]

This is the most Mac-like solo album, but at the same time distinctly Lindsey. The Lindseyness is in the quirky lyrics, which have none of Mac's mythic elements: houses on hills, the blowing wind, the night etc. Lindsey is a hook-meister, and here he does what he does best - forges original, layered hooks. "Gift of Screws" is awesome. The cd has at least three obvious singles other than the first one. L & O was troubled by the clicks and whirrs and OC was good, but a little contrived. US seemed to lack fully-written songs some of the time; I know it was meant as a spontaneous cd. GS is just perfect.

My opinion. Now... I hope it sells a few copies.

[michelej1]

I feel the EXACT same way! I felt almost guilty for not loving "Did You Miss Me" after all the praise it got when first released,


DYMM is quite commercial I think. It's not fluffy to me, because it conveys a certain yearning that I think is anything but superficial. But I do think it is poppy and for that reason alone, I'm not surprised at all that it doesn't thrill everyone. It might be a little too light for me to expect it to get overwhelming acclaim.

Michele

[Hawkeye]

I feel the EXACT same way! I felt almost guilty for not loving "Did You Miss Me" after all the praise it got when first released, but I STILL can't get into it too much. It falls in the exact same place for me, right ahead of the exact same song. And again, still like it more than a good number of songs on UTS.

My fave on the album at this point is "Great Day". Just loving everything about it.

If you reread my post, thats the song I said is my favorite too. We have the two best tastes in music on the entire board for sure :laugh:

[hlforan]

lol

my gut reaction (subject to change) is that this is the most satisfying Lindsey solo album.

I'd have to agree- often I have to listen to any new album
a few times to appreciate it, this one I just love, every single song right from the first play- I loved UMS, but I really love GOS, maybe it is because I have a screw loose~:shrug:

[Tango]

I've been thinking more about Time Precious Time and while I don't LOVE it, I've been trying to put it in some sort of context. I listened to it this morning in the car all the way through. I was supposing this song could be a sort of "memorial." Those who have lost loved ones, as Lindsey has lost his parents, his brother and others in his life he has cared greatly about, those could be the precious times referenced.

You can bring anything you want to music when you listen to it, just as Lindsey does when he writes it. One could argue the song might reference his brother Greg with the water and flowing references. (And one could be totally wrong!) If we ever lost a member of Fleetwood Mac Time Precious Time would certainly serve as an appropriate tribute. As much as they all "disagree," and have disparaged each other over the years, in the end, the feeling remains: it's "time precious time" to each of them.

While I am still impatient with the song, I do appreciate the sounds Lindsey can get out of a guitar. One would expect that sound out of a harp, but he's created that sound by hand on a guitar! As I said to a friend, "can YOU do that?" I respect the song and what he created. Just don't expect me to play it EVERY TIME I listen to the album! ;)

While it is pathetic that so many people won't ever hear this album for all the politicial reasons in the music business, for whatever keeps so much music from being heard, I'm seriously pleased.

To the left, to the right, up & down, in & out . . . and around. That's right baby!

[David]

L & O was troubled by the clicks and whirrs Clicks & whirrs??

[michelej1]

Clicks & whirrs??

Chicks and whores? So, that's what Lindsey meant in Bel Air Rain.


Michele

[TrueFaith77]

I've been thinking more about Time Precious Time and while I don't LOVE it, I've been trying to put it in some sort of context. I listened to it this morning in the car all the way through. I was supposing this song could be a sort of "memorial." Those who have lost loved ones, as Lindsey has lost his parents, his brother and others in his life he has cared greatly about, those could be the precious times referenced.

You can bring anything you want to music when you listen to it, just as Lindsey does when he writes it. One could argue the song might reference his brother Greg with the water and flowing references. (And one could be totally wrong!) If we ever lost a member of Fleetwood Mac Time Precious Time would certainly serve as an appropriate tribute. As much as they all "disagree," and have disparaged each other over the years, in the end, the feeling remains: it's "time precious time" to each of them.

While I am still impatient with the song, I do appreciate the sounds Lindsey can get out of a guitar. One would expect that sound out of a harp, but he's created that sound by hand on a guitar! As I said to a friend, "can YOU do that?" I respect the song and what he created. Just don't expect me to play it EVERY TIME I listen to the album! ;)

While it is pathetic that so many people won't ever hear this album for all the politicial reasons in the music business, for whatever keeps so much music from being heard, I'm seriously pleased.

To the left, to the right, up & down, in & out . . . and around. That's right baby!


I don't mean to sound morbid but you know what is strange, and correct me if I'm wrong, but every person who has ever been a member of Fleetwood Mac is still alive?

[TrueFaith77]

Chicks and whores?

Michele

which one is cah?

[CarterNix]

I just listened to some of Under The Skin for the first time since I got Gift of Screws. The two are just so far apart in terms of the quality of songs. GOS is multiple times better - what an album!

[michelej1]

I don't mean to sound morbid but you know what is strange, and correct me if I'm wrong, but every person who has ever been a member of Fleetwood Mac is still alive?


Well, which one were you counting on to kick the bucket first?

Michele

[Tango]

I don't mean to sound morbid but you know what is strange, and correct me if I'm wrong, but every person who has ever been a member of Fleetwood Mac is still alive?

Nope, you're not wrong and not morbid. (Perhaps I might be charged with being morbid since that's a little of what I read into the song.) They are all still with us-- not all still making music, but they're out there.

What do you think of the song? How do you interpret Time Precious Time?

[TrueFaith77]

Well, which one were you counting on to kick the bucket first?

Michele

Aww, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just surprised given the number of members and their age and their lifestyle. But really I was kinda thinking out loud. I should have kept that to myself.

[Hawkeye]

Aww, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just surprised given the number of members and their age and their lifestyle. But really I was kinda thinking out loud. I should have kept that to myself.

No what you're thinking makes total sense. Hell The Beatles had 4 members and are already down to 2 (If i was god id switch out the 2 :laugh: ) And it's not like these 16 members have lived healthier lives, Not by a LONG shot. Hell the rumours line up alone should be dead 5 times over, hell just Stevie and Mick should be dead 4 times over.

It really is impressive and almost a miracle that such a hard living band that started 40+ years ago still has all 16 members alive.

[Keith]

My semi-gut reaction (I’ve listened to the whole album over 10 times, working on #11, maybe 12 as I’m losing the count)…

I’m a huge fan of Under the Skin and I kept hearing how Gift of Screws was Lindsey’s rock album. I was a bit afraid because, for me, the cool thing about putting on a new Lindsey Buckingham record is the anticipation of knowing that he is going to take you on a musical journey full of twists, turns, and surprises. He will challenge you, but reward you with music you won’t find anywhere else. He’s unique – the underrated guitar god that deserves to be on every top guitarist list.. is anyone listening?

My favorite track is Time Precious Time – it just exudes beautiful with its sometimes whispering and often urging lyrics about how precious each and every moment this short life is. And he sings the words against a backdrop of an urgent guitar strum – like clocks ticking ever so quickly…. remember. Brilliant.

My second favorite track is “Underground.” Two of my favorite moments on Gifts are the instrumental that comes after the second round of “I think I might wander Underground..” and then how the song fades out.. with Lindsey’s “uh uh uh..” and his beautiful pickin’…. gorgeous.

“Bel Air Rain” competes with “Underground” as my second favorite track – not only does it have some of the most interesting lyrics, but when he starts to sing “I’ve changed my name” – I don’t know – it just gets to me. Terrific stuff.

Then there are the rockers.. I think “Wait for You” “Love Runs Deeper” and “The Right Place to Fade” deserve a chance to be played on rock radio – catchy melodies, infectious hooks with an edge - guitar gems!

“Long and slender alter in the sky… …we will rise from this treason” From start to finish, I do adore this album. Thank you Lindsey – I needed some fresh new music in my life. Gift of Screws is better than I expected - and I expected a lot!

[michelej1]

Aww, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just surprised given the number of members and their age and their lifestyle. But really I was kinda thinking out loud. I should have kept that to myself.

No, I remember Stevie telling Mojo that when all of their friends start dying, Lindsey will be the first one she calls and I laughed myself silly over that. First of all, I didn't know why Stevie thought that she and Lindsey would outlive their friends.

Also, Lindsey's father died young and his brother even younger, so . . . I think it's a blessing that all 16 members of the band are still alive.

No wild car accidents. The Macsters have been lucky.

And I don't know if any of them ever did heroin or not, but that seems to be deadlier than other drugs. Not doing that might have saved a few lives.

Michele

[Tango]

Bob mentioned being in a heroin coma when he did his Q&A here. He's an amazing survivor.

[Richard B]

Finally had time this morning to listen to GOS for the first time.

Gut reaction: love it, every freaking song. Time Precious Time, Underground, Treason really stood out for me.

If I had to make one criticism: it's too short.

[BombaySapphire3]

Now that I have had to to listen to it multiple times I have to say it is my favorite new album this year so far along with the debut of the Fleet Foxes..I like Under The Skin as well it reminds me of some newer bands I listen to like Iron and Wine..Mr Buckingham you have come up with a hell of a third act!:thumbsup:

[trackaghost]

^^ Good taste! I love Fleet Foxes and Iron & Wine too.

Personally I feel these last two albums are something of a creative high for Lindsey and for someone that has been around as long as him, that rarely happens this late in a artist's career.

[gretchen]

Bel Air Rain and Time Precious Time are just so gorgeous...
Bel Air Rain is my fave on GOS.

[Richard B]

I listen to like Iron and Wine

I love the EP of Calexico and Iron & Wine.
Speaking of Calexico, love their new album too.

[michelej1]

Lyrically, other than DYMM, I don't think the lyrics are inferior to the UTS album's. I think they are great, often paired with a vocal that makes them mean even more.

For instance, I love the little turn in Treason, when he says I searched for you behind garden walls and then he turns it around and says he saw her face, full of grace, searching for him. It's like, SOB. What a thoughtful way to describe people who have missed each other and been pained in their separation, to finally come together.

Also, I think we are all thrown for a loop by the Wait for You lyrics, because Lindsey just mumbled his way through the leaked version of GOS and we really had no idea what he was saying until now. But the way it's sung, I totally buy "I'm going to wait for you" as the words, because the urgent need in his voice during that refrain sounds like someone who is going to wait, even if he should walk away. Yeah, every bone has been broken, that's all the more reason to keep fighting, because if you stop, it will make all the suffering that's gone before meaningless.

So, even when the words are basic, like "I'm going to wait for you" within the performance of the songs, they gain in depth.

Michele

[David]

Personally I feel these last two albums are something of a creative high for Lindsey and for someone that has been around as long as him, that rarely happens this late in a artist's career.I hate to sound like a broken record, but consider Beethoven's career.

[AliceLover]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but consider Beethoven's career.

Have you heard the album yet David?