bad blood

[LB is the man]

does anyone know if there is bad blood between Lindsey and Christine? I dont know why but i feel like there is

[DavidMn]

New Zealand 1980 anyone?:laugh: Seriously though, I doubt that has lingered at all after almost 30 years.

[LB is the man]

yah i thought of that, thats where he kicked stevie and all on stage and went a little nuts right? i wouldnt think that would last this long either. am i the only one to think this though?

[DavidMn]

yah i thought of that, thats where he kicked stevie and all on stage and went a little nuts right? i wouldnt think that would last this long either. am i the only one to think this though?Thats the only thing that immideately comes to mind. I cant really think of any other major incident between the 2.

[Tango]

does anyone know if there is bad blood between Lindsey and Christine? I dont know why but i feel like there is

I guess "bad blood" could be an issue, or at least something "organicly" related. ;) He seems to feel that having Christine absent allows more "testosterone" to flow and "more room." Who knew Christine took up so much space and was such a major secreter of hormones???? :laugh:


http://carnageandculture.blogspot.com/2006/10/lindsey-buckingham-right-out-in.html

http://lindseybuckingham.net/press/article_display.asp?loc=2006-11-18.asp

[strandinthewind]

Well, around the time of SYW, many CM fans took some of LB's comments about CM as snippy and snarky. I did not really see it that way, but they did. Here is an example - in the SYW doc., CM sent flowers to the band on opening night. LB made a comment about the flowers. I forgot what it was, but it seemed harmless to me. I think it was something about the card. Many CM fans were incensed because LB looked snarky about it.

LB never really struck me as antagonistic to CM.

[gldstwmn]

Wasn't it Christine who brought Lindsey back into the fold by getting him to work on that movie soundtrack song with her?

[David]

Wasn't it Christine who brought Lindsey back into the fold by getting him to work on that movie soundtrack song with her?That was for TANGO, & that was more a matter of bringing all the members of the band back onto a project. But it was Lindsey's solo album in 1995-96 that brought John, Mick, & Chris back into his -- Lindsey's -- sphere.

[LB is the man]

in an interveiw i read linked above by tango he said she "burned her bridges" how did she do that?

[strandinthewind]

She left after The Dance and wanted nothing to do with FM, save, perhaps, for recording with them, though that is not really a given either.

I think LB was referring to that. I did not take it as disrespectful. I took it as factual. I also did not take it to mean that LB woulkd not welcome CM back if CM wanted to come back, which is usually what burned bridges suggests.

[Tango]

in an interveiw i read linked above by tango he said she "burned her bridges" how did she do that?


I certainly don't know what Lindsey meant for certain, but took the comment to mean Christine turned in her membership card to Fleetwood Mac. Maybe like Bob Welch did when he resigned. Perhaps there was some signing of papers, giving up of certain rights, (use of the sauna, golf course) etc. I see Bob on board from time to time. Maybe he can address how one officially resigns from such a band.

[strandinthewind]

^^^

I kind of wondered that as well. I am sure lawyers were involved. I mean was there a contractual obligation she walked away from? Stevie said CM agreed to do the initial part of the tour, which CM did. CM declined to go on a second part around the world. So, I think there was no contractual obligation on CM's part after the initial tour. I cannot imagine FM's business people do not have some sort of exit clause in the band's paper work.

I'd love to see it though!

But, it could be as simple as "I am not doing this anymore - I resign" and then walking out the foor. I think that is unlikely though as millions of dollars were floating around and had been for 25 years.

[Betsy]

in an interveiw i read linked above by tango he said she "burned her bridges" how did she do that?

I read (somewhere) a similar quote, but it went on to say that she sold her house in California and moved to England because the earthquakes made her nervous. The *burned her bridges* meant, she ain't coming back to the USA to live.

[BTFLCHLD]

Here is an example - in the SYW doc., CM sent flowers to the band on opening night. Destiny Rules?

[strandinthewind]

Destiny Rules?

Yes, it is on that. Mick and LB are talking about the fact that CM sent flowers.

[BTFLCHLD]

Yes, it is on that. Mick and LB are talking about the fact that CM sent flowers. wow I thought I knew that dvd front to back... hmmm...guess I will have to watch it again. thanks.

[strandinthewind]

wow I thought I knew that dvd front to back... hmmm...guess I will have to watch it again. thanks.

I think it was on that. Didn't they have the section at the end about the first concert and how it was sold out, with footage backstage. I think it showed LB holding La Nicks hand walking up the stairs to the stage.

[TrueFaith77]

Yes, it is on that. Mick and LB are talking about the fact that CM sent flowers.

Lindsey is all "awww shucks" when he says that Christine sent a card, saying: "Love the new album." And Mick says something like: "A real class act, that one." IT'S SO CUTE. Little did they know she really meant: "Too much guitar."

[strandinthewind]

Lindsey is all "awww shucks" when he says that Christine sent a card, saying: "Love the new album." And Mick says something like: "A real class act, that one." IT'S SO CUTE. Little did they know she really meant: "Too much guitar."

Yea - I took it that way. Some people took that aw shucks in a different way. They thought he was being snarky.

[BTFLCHLD]

I think it was on that. Didn't they have the section at the end about the first concert and how it was sold out, with footage backstage. I think it showed LB holding La Nicks hand walking up the stairs to the stage. Right, there was the dressing room prior to the first show...Lindsey lingering in the bathroom...Lindsey pumping up Mick "feel like god"...Lindsey's kisses on Stevie's hands...the walk to stage...then the fade to black. I do not recall any discussion of flowers from CM. I will watch it again as I would be interested in any flower from CM comments.

[BTFLCHLD]

Lindsey is all "awww shucks" when he says that Christine sent a card, saying: "Love the new album." And Mick says something like: "A real class act, that one." IT'S SO CUTE. Little did they know she really meant: "Too much guitar." weirdness...I don't recall. thanks for the deets...I will find lateron.

[michelej1]

I read (somewhere) a similar quote, but it went on to say that she sold her house in California and moved to England because the earthquakes made her nervous. The *burned her bridges* meant, she ain't coming back to the USA to live.

Yes, when he elaborates he does say that that is what he means. Divorce, selling her house, moving. Although, the fact that he keeps using the phrase "burned her bridges" implies to me that he is being deliberately devilish. He must know its connotations.

I think Lindsey and Christine had a good relationship through the Dance. Then, during the SYW discussions, maybe they had words. Mick said he heard them on the phone talking and never said what they said -- but I don't think that Lindsey had a good reaction to Chris not being involved in SYW.

They never said they had words, but I perceive both of them as taking digs at each other after that time. Christine, probably in response to Lindsey's 'testosterone, 30% more room, she never was that exciting live' schtick. I don't think he was happy she didn't take part and not because of the money either. I think he made more money getting 25% of the take than he would getting 20%, but he just wanted her.

I think they may have had words in 2003, but am sure they love one another and would no doubt kiss and make up, if they ever saw each other for more than 5 minutes at a stretch. It is hard to mend bridges across continents.

Michele

[michelej1]

Lindsey is all "awww shucks" when he says that Christine sent a card, saying: "Love the new album." And Mick says something like: "A real class act, that one." IT'S SO CUTE. Little did they know she really meant: "Too much guitar."

Too much California guitar. When she talked about Dan having an Englishman's sense of guitar playing so much, I really had to start laughing.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Right, there was the dressing room prior to the first show...Lindsey lingering in the bathroom...Lindsey pumping up Mick "feel like god"...Lindsey's kisses on Stevie's hands...the walk to stage...then the fade to black. I do not recall any discussion of flowers from CM. I will watch it again as I would be interested in any flower from CM comments.

The flower comment is on the VH-1 All Access, not on Destiny Rules. Lindsey asks Mick if he saw the card and flowers from Christine and then says, "Class Act" to which Mick agreed. I believe it was Lindsey who said that.

On the testosterone percentage, seems like Stevie also made those comments.

They are all so funny to me.

[strandinthewind]

^^

Oops - I forgot about that one :laugh:

[ajmccarrell]

Yes, when he elaborates he does say that that is what he means. Divorce, selling her house, moving. Although, the fact that he keeps using the phrase "burned her bridges" implies to me that he is being deliberately devilish. He must know its connotations.

I think Lindsey and Christine had a good relationship through the Dance. Then, during the SYW discussions, maybe they had words. Mick said he heard them on the phone talking and never said what they said -- but I don't think that Lindsey had a good reaction to Chris not being involved in SYW.

They never said they had words, but I perceive both of them as taking digs at each other after that time. Christine, probably in response to Lindsey's 'testosterone, 30% more room, she never was that exciting live' schtick. I don't think he was happy she didn't take part and not because of the money either. I think he made more money getting 25% of the take than he would getting 20%, but he just wanted her.

I think they may have had words in 2003, but am sure they love one another and would no doubt kiss and make up, if they ever saw each other for more than 5 minutes at a stretch. It is hard to mend bridges across continents.

Michele

I've wondered at the being paid 25% thing. On the Destiny Rules DVD, Lindsey says that the label will only pay for 12 songs. I've wondered if he didn't take a huge hit on the other six songs. I can't imagine Stevie would forego money to make room for Lindsey's creativity. I'm speculating he got absolutely raped on the money end of things and that's why he sold his house.

[strandinthewind]

At the time, there was huge speculation regarding LB's finances. The general conclusion was though he may have lost come money on SYW, he was vastly richer than the other members of FM and could afford it. As for seling the house, that came out of left field. I think K just wanted a new home and a fresh start. Remember, that new house on the hill was built on LB's bahelor pad, which has been badly damaged in an earthquake. So, it is likely the insurance money paid for much of the new house. Then, they go and sell it. Finally, it was speculated that the Stevie and LB likely made $100,000 each on average per concert, esp. when you count the merch. So, I cannot imagine he was so broke as to sell his house. But, I guess ionly he knows for sure and it certainly is possible.

[michelej1]

I've wondered at the being paid 25% thing. On the Destiny Rules DVD, Lindsey says that the label will only pay for 12 songs.

In the kitchen when Lindsey is teasing John, he says the additional costs for mixing the song will be $9000 and John says how much will that cost him and Lindsey says to split $9000 4 ways. I think that was for EFO, so they were sharing that equally. I have wondered about the apportionment of costs on the additional 6 songs too. Michele

[LukeA]

I think K just wanted a new home and a fresh start.

Lets not forget another Town & Country feature either- I'm sure there's hopes for that too. (Why the hell was Kristen on the cover anyways?)

Remember, that new house on the hill was built on LB's bahelor pad, which has been badly damaged in an earthquake. So, it is likely the insurance money paid for much of the new house. Then, they go and sell it. Finally, it was speculated that the Stevie and LB likely made $100,000 each on average per concert, esp. when you count the merch. So, I cannot imagine he was so broke as to sell his house. But, I guess ionly he knows for sure and it certainly is possible.

He's not only not broke, he's ridiculously wealthy. He wouldn't be touring the country by private jet out of his own pocket- playing concerts where the gate barely covers all of his other expenses- if he was hard up for cash, either now or even in the recent past.

[strandinthewind]

Lets not forget another Town & Country feature either- I'm sure there's hopes for that too. (Why the hell was Kristen on the cover anyways?)

I know. All I can figure is K is a photographer and likely knew someone that way at a magazine. Also, it is very common for a real estate agent to arrange for a spread of an exclusive home to appear in a prestifious magazine prior to the listing.

He's not only not broke, he's ridiculously wealthy. He wouldn't be touring the country by private jet out of his own pocket- playing concerts where the gate barely covers all of his other expenses- if he was hard up for cash, either now or even in the recent past.

I think so too, which is why I was taken aback a little at LB's worrying about money on the SYW doc. Seemingly he was talking about relatively very little money compared to his actual wealth.

[CADreaming]

At the time, there was huge speculation regarding LB's finances. The general conclusion was though he may have lost come money on SYW, he was vastly richer than the other members of FM and could afford it.

I just love the part in DR where Stevie is lecturing him about the money situation and reminding him that he has a family and a new house he's building...(LB cuts eyes, edit take). LOL

Lets not forget another Town & Country feature either- I'm sure there's hopes for that too. (Why the hell was Kristen on the cover anyways?)

I know, right! Oh, I'm sure strings had to have been pulled, favors called in, corporate gigs done...

[David]

Remember, that new house on the hill was built on LB's bahelor pad, which has been badly damaged in an earthquake. How would his old pad have been badly damaged in a quake? Which quake was it? What does badly damaged mean? Beverly Hills & Bel Air are built atop hard rock, like granite. The harder the rock, the lower the intensity of shaking in moderate-sized quakes.

[strandinthewind]

How would his old pad have been badly damaged in a quake? Which quake was it? What does badly damaged mean? Beverly Hills & Bel Air are built atop hard rock, like granite. The harder the rock, the lower the intensity of shaking in moderate-sized quakes.

He mentioned it in some article. There was a big discussion about it.

[David]

He mentioned it in some article. There was a big discussion about it.He's lying! :mad::mad:

[strandinthewind]

He's lying! :mad::mad:

I will look for the article because I think I remember that. Does anyone else remember it?

[jbrownsjr]

He's lying! :mad::mad:

You're being snarky...

[jbrownsjr]

If anyone wants to measure what kind of relationship Christine and LB had just listen to World Turning, or HOld Me, or Isn't It Midnight, or Mystified, or You Make Lovin Fun or Little Lies or Shadow of the West, or the Smile I live for....

[michelej1]

If anyone wants to measure what kind of relationship Christine and LB had just listen to World Turning, or HOld Me, or Isn't It Midnight, or Mystified, or You Make Lovin Fun or Little Lies or Shadow of the West, or the Smile I live for....

Ah, and who could ignore their stellar collaboration on Ricky.

Michele

[CADreaming]

I will look for the article because I think I remember that. Does anyone else remember it?

I remember. Said he lived in the 4 Seasons in Beverly Hills because of the damage.

[strandinthewind]

I remember. Said he lived in the 4 Seasons in Beverly Hills because of the damage.

Thank goodness the memory is still somewhat intact :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

Ah, and who could ignore their stellar collaboration on Ricky.

Michele

that was covered with the etc... but yeah i love that tune as well....

that's all i ever needed their relationship to be... to bad he's so snarky while she's so classy :]

[David]

that's all i ever needed their relationship to be... to bad he's so snarky while she's so classy :]I think Lindsey's career is over.

[jbrownsjr]

I think Lindsey's career is over.

why do you think that?

[michelej1]

that was covered with the etc... but yeah i love that tune as well....

that's all i ever needed their relationship to be... to bad he's so snarky while she's so classy :]

Oh, can she can be snarky back. I think they had a little mutual byplay going there in the press, with her pointing out that guitar solos just make her sick -- which I don't think they even do.

Michele

[David]

why do you think that?
I guess because I see him scrambling about in the ashes of a long-dead passion.

I don't know!

[CADreaming]

I guess because I see him scrambling about in the ashes of a long-dead passion.

I don't know!

LOL...love that...somebody could write a song about that...

[michelej1]

I guess because I see him scrambling about in the ashes of a long-dead passion.

I don't know!

You think his passion for music is dead?

Michele

[David]

You think his passion for music is dead?No, I meant his passion for Stevie. :sorry:

[dontlookdown]

who cares?

[TrueFaith77]

No, I meant his passion for Stevie. :sorry:

I thought you meant his passion for 420. :woohoo:

[michelej1]

This weekend someone told me that they heard a dash of Warm Ways in the DYMM chorus, especially in the guitar. I don't hear it myself.

Michele

[David]

This weekend someone told me that they heard a dash of Warm Ways in the DYMM chorus, especially in the guitar. I don't hear it myself.What's DYMM?

[gretchen]

What's DYMM?

Did You Miss Me

[jbrownsjr]

Oh, can she can be snarky back. I think they had a little mutual byplay going there in the press, with her pointing out that guitar solos just make her sick -- which I don't think they even do.

Michele

She really said they made her sick? I don't remember reading that...

I remember her saying something like, "a bit too much guitar" but then again... you get way more press release reading in that I do...

[jbrownsjr]

Did You Miss Me

i did gretchen!:laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

You think his passion for music is dead?

Michele

No I don't think he will ever lose his passion for music.... whether or not it's interesting and/or moving is a different story...

[michelej1]

She really said they made her sick? I don't remember reading that...

I remember her saying something like, "a bit too much guitar" but then again... you get way more press release reading in that I do...

It was on her website Q & A videos. Actually, she said nice things about Lindsey in a couple of those video snippets too. But she said something like guitar solos just make her sick, she wants to jump up and leave the room.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

It was on her website Q & A videos. Actually, she said nice things about Lindsey in a couple of those video snippets too. But she said something like guitar solos just make her sick, she wants to jump up and leave the room.

Michele

some of the songs on SYW did make me want to leave the room... but I'll take his songs on SYW over UTS any day... i like his guitar work.. wish she would jam more on her albums... but i still think LB is way more whiney bitchy and snarky than Christine...

[SteveMacD]

Oh, can she can be snarky back. I think they had a little mutual byplay going there in the press, with her pointing out that guitar solos just make her sick -- which I don't think they even do.

She was in Chicken Shack, worked with every guitarist in Fleetwood Mac, AND had Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton on her '84 album. I'm going to assume that this is something new.

(OTOH, Lindsey's solos aren't what they used to be, either. His finger-style is to die for, but his leads...Meh. Pretty sad when they have to bring on TWO additional guitarists.)

[vivfox]

(OTOH, Lindsey's solos aren't what they used to be, either. His finger-style is to die for, but his leads...Meh. Pretty sad when they have to bring on TWO additional guitarists.)

I'm sure it wasn't his idea.

[michelej1]

She was in Chicken Shack, worked with every guitarist in Fleetwood Mac, AND had Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton on her '84 album. I'm going to assume that this is something new.


I don't think she has anything against guitar solos at all. Indeed there was a lot of guitar on ITM. It was just something she was saying at the time. I believe a deliberate counter to some of Lindsey's SYW comments.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

I think Lindsey and Christine had a good relationship through the Dance. Then, during the SYW discussions, maybe they had words. Mick said he heard them on the phone talking and never said what they said -- but I don't think that Lindsey had a good reaction to Chris not being involved in SYW.
Michele

Yes. I think this was the case. In SYW, during the segment that addresses Christine's absence, he says something like "Christine is off in England and who knows what the heck she's doing..." It's brash but I sensed it was because he was pissed she wasn't around.

Lindsey and Christine forged a great partnership through the years and were able to nourish each other's strengths as well as temper one another's limitations...

[aleuzzi]

It was on her website Q & A videos. Actually, she said nice things about Lindsey in a couple of those video snippets too. But she said something like guitar solos just make her sick, she wants to jump up and leave the room.

Michele

And yet in her 1984 interview with Rolling Stone she talks about how much she loves the sound of a guitar...

Also consider the great guitar set pieces in "Hollywood"

[michelej1]

Yes. I think this was the case. In SYW, during the segment that addresses Christine's absence, he says something like "Christine is off in England and who knows what the heck she's doing..." It's brash but I sensed it was because he was pissed she wasn't around.


Yeah, Lindsey was like she was in England doing "god knows what" or "god only knows" and combine that with how she had burned her bridges, I thought he was suggesting that she had become an axe murderer and was no longer welcome in the United States.

Actually, those clips on her website feeled me with longing, because aside from saying guitar solos made her absolutely sick and she was so relieved to be with Dan and his Englishman's sense of guitar playing, she also said that she's never that far away from FM and not a day goes by when she doesn't think of them (especially John and Mick) and how she could sense what John and Mick and, even to some extent, Lindsey was about to do on stage, because she was so in tune with them. She said it wasn't a premonition exactly, but it was something she couldn't describe and she she said it gave her that famous goose flesh.

As for Lindsey, when she was promoting ITM when asked why her songs sounded like FM at first she joked and said it was because she had written all the FM hits. Then she said it was because she thought they had all learned so much from Lindsey in the studio. And she said that Dan actually was a fan of Lindsey's.


Michele

[LukeA]

I'm sure it wasn't his idea.

Well, Lindsey's "guitar army" (circa '93) was absolutely his idea, just any additional accompaniment is now.

However, it *is* essential that he gets his 2-3 songs where he gets to exaggeratedly strum and make wild facial gestures- you know, to show that he's passionate and awesome and all that.

[Street_Dreamer]

I don't understand why/how there would/could be "bad blood" between Christine and Lindsey. Why would there be? Personally I think a lot of people took some of Lindsey's comments about Christine out of context. It's easy to try to put words in people's mouths and misinterpret what they say and what they mean to say when there's only one side that you're able to listen to.

Matt

[Gailh]

I don't think there was any serious bad blood between the two of them.

some of Lindsey's remarks about Christine about the time SYW came out I thought were less than gracious. If he was quoted correctly there was something about her songs not being "emotionally incisive" and not working too well live. He did mention testosterone more than was strictly necessary and that he had more freedom now which could imply that Christine was somehow holding him back. I don't think she ever held him back but she was the only member of the band who could and did stand up to him musically. I think they made a good team- he probably pushed her further than she wanted to go and she probably smoothed off some of his edges.

Mind you some of the things Ms McVie said were not particularly polite either - "maybe a tad too much guitar" "what I was hearing was Buckingham Nicks and not Fleetwood Mac" she also mentioned about not liking guitar solos. I don't think she actually said they make her sick, I can't think of the exact words but it was something like when she hears a guitar solo she's "out the door"

I doubt if they keep in touch much but their lives now are so very different. He's still a full time musician and she is pretty much retired.

Gail

[David]

Well, Lindsey's "guitar army" (circa '93) was absolutely his idea, just any additional accompaniment is now.I think a lot of people here are mistakenly interpreting Christine's comment about guitar. If she said that she hates guitar, she meant the power-chorded, near-metal assault that Lindsey makes on COME or MURROW. She isn't talking about all electric guitar. Virtually every recording she ever made & every concert she ever gave featured electric guitar playing. Surely you must see the difference, Luke?

Lindsey's 1993 guitar army was really a guitar ensemble. It was a masterly orchestration. He used the phrase "guitar army" because it sounds cool. But the numerous guitarists on his old tour all had very intricate parts to perform, each part meticulously arranged in advance in order to re-create as far as possible the effect of the album tracks. It was by no means just a cock-rocking assault on the senses that the phrase "guitar army" connotes.

[michelej1]

I don't think she actually said they make her sick, I can't think of the exact words but it was something like when she hears a guitar solo she's "out the door"


Gail

I was looking for my clip. Question 10 was when she said she could feel the guys and sense what they were going to play next.

I have Question 9, but it won't open and I don't know which one that was.

But about guitar solos, I think she said something like they make her "absolutely" sick and the minute she hears them she wants to get up and walk out the room. I don't know how she described them whether she said "long" guitar solos or electric or what kind of guitar solos. I just know she said guitar solos.

When Lindsey was promoting UTS I think he said something like he talked to Chris once a year, which was actually more than I thought he did. I don't think he even said he talked to John at all.

Michele

[michelej1]

I was just thinking of other comments I found interesting. He mentioned that he and Stevie might have stayed together longer and worked out their problems, if not for Christine's influence. He also said that Chris made Stevie more feminine and left to her own devices, Stevie's music is more masculine.
This made me laugh, because I would say that Stevie's solo music can be harder than her Mac music, but it has more to do with Lindsey than it does with Christine.

But Lindsey made these comments in 1997 a time when Lindsey was saying he was closer to Christine because he understood her need to leave as a "survival move" when all the other band members didn't understand.

Now for IMT, Chris also made me laugh when she said that the words to Tusk made no sense and who even knew what they meant -- which they don't make sense, but she knew that 25 years ago. And she repeated a famous sentiment that all of the band's guitar players go crazy. But then the interviewer asked her about Lindsey in particular and said, "but he's ok isn't he?" And she said that he was fine. So, when given the chance, she didn't include Lindsey amongst the insane guitar players she's known. Michele

[strandinthewind]

I was just thinking of other comments I found interesting. He mentioned that he and Stevie might have stayed together longer and worked out their problems, if not for Christine's influence. He also said that Chris make Stevie more feminine and left to her own devices, Stevie's music is more masculine . . . .

What interview was that in. I cannot remember it. I am getting old :laugh:

[michelej1]

They were two different interviews. Here's the "left to her own devices" one from Guitar World Acoustic. I'll have to find the other one about him and Stevie maybe having worked out their differences. Many times, I think Lindsey is bringing the estrogen to FM songs. Michele

That's true! I think Mick would say that his playing here is probably the best he's ever done. To some degree, Stevie, left to her own devices—not necessarily on her solo albums, but in the context of Fleetwood Mac—is, if not a more masculine presence, then certainly a more aggressive presence than when she's tempered by what Christine would bring to her songs. But I think the biggest difference has been for John, who's really playing great stuff here. Obviously, Stevie and I pushed each other's buttons over the years, and although we functioned in the band well enough, it wasn't always as comfortable as it could have been. There was always this tension.

[Gailh]

I was looking for my clip. Question 10 was when she said she could feel the guys and sense what they were going to play next.

I have Question 9, but it won't open and I don't know which one that was.

But about guitar solos, I think she said something like they make her "absolutely" sick and the minute she hears them she wants to get up and walk out the room. I don't know how she described them whether she said "long" guitar solos or electric or what kind of guitar solos. I just know she said guitar solos.

When Lindsey was promoting UTS I think he said something like he talked to Chris once a year, which was actually more than I thought he did. I don't think he even said he talked to John at all.

Michele

Clip number 13 she says "Dan is one of those guitar players who loathe guitar solos and so do I"

"Any hint of (brief impersonation of guitar solo) and I'm out the door".

Gail

[michelej1]

Clip number 13 she says "Dan is one of those guitar players who loathe guitar solos and so do I"

"Any hint of (brief impersonation of guitar solo) and I'm out the door".

Gail

Thanks. This should mean that mine is called Q13 and now I may be able to recover and watch it.

Michele

[henryscutter]

Maybe Chris just thought Lindsey wasnt a good houseguest since he always beat up his girlfriends at her house

:wavey: Sorry I couldnt resist

[jbrownsjr]

Maybe Chris just thought Lindsey wasnt a good houseguest since he always beat up his girlfriends at her house

:wavey: Sorry I couldnt resist

hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

well the good of it is... he wrote "don't look down" as he was dragging Carol Anne down Christine's driveway.... :nod::sorry:;)

[michelej1]

What interview was that in. I cannot remember it. I am getting old :laugh:

Ok, the second interview was from Microsoft Music Central in August 1997. Lindsey says:

We had a lot of problems by the time we joined, as did John and Chris. So it was one of the things that Stevie and Chris had in common. What drew them together was the need to commiserate. Without that catalyst, maybe it would have been drawn out longer. Or maybe we would have worked it out.

When I was looking for that article, I saw one from the Philadelphia Inquirer in 1997 which had a sweet little moment:

Christine McVie prepares to leave for the day, but before stepping into her car, the singer stops to kiss Buckingham on the cheek. "Goodbye, Lindsey," she says. "Don't stress yourself out too much."

Michele

[strandinthewind]

^^^

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[David]

Stevie talked about this, as well, back around 1980 on KMET's The Rock Years. She said that she & Lindsey were breaking up when they joined the band, but that keeping busy with a new band, new album, & new tour -- & the resulting (but slow-in-coming) success -- gave them all a little extra energy & less of an urge to break up as a couple. As she put it, they were "riding an airstream." Ultimately, however, they were "airstreamed out."

[michelej1]

Stevie talked about this, as well, back around 1980 on KMET's The Rock Years. She said that she & Lindsey were breaking up when they joined the band, but that keeping busy with a new band, new album, & new tour -- & the resulting (but slow-in-coming) success -- gave them all a little extra energy & less of an urge to break up as a couple.

Yeah, I remember her saying that she held off on the break up for awhile, so that the band could survive.

But I think Lindsey is saying the reverse here, that being in the band could have prolonged the separation, yes, but also could have facilitated it. Stevie had someone to go through the process with her: Christine.

It's similar to Stevie saying that she and Lindsey were probably too scared to leave Northern California alone, but by joining forces they were able to leave home and conquer Hollywood together. With the strength of having another woman going through the same thing, Lindsey is saying Stevie found support and maybe the break up wouldn't have happened if Stevie didn't have that support and commiseration. Maybe they would have found their way back to each other.

On the other hand, Lindsey found support among the FM musicians himself. Stevie said that he related to them in a way he couldn't/didn't relate to her. And so I think being in the band gave him something to turn to, when they turned away from each other, as well. Without the new band mates (not to mention the distractions that money and dawning celebrity brought), maybe they would have ridden the rough patch together and looked again to each other.

Michele