Lindsey's Heart??

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Am I the only one who can see that Lindsey is still in love with Stevie? I can find nothing of late regarding their feelings for each other. I saw a fairly recent video clip where Lindsey was singing ‘Never go Back’, which he wrote about her and he paused for a minute and you could see that he was feeling her and then he got all choked up. Both Lindsey and Stevie have written dozens of songs about the love that they share. They seem like a modern day Immortal Beloved. Each of them has revealed themselves to me in their music, and I love them for that, which is why I am consumed by their love issues. I believe that Stevie keeps her feelings hidden better than Lindsey, from what videos I have seen of him singing to her or about her. I believe that Stevie has always and continues to “taunt” Lindsey with her lyrics that hit you like a slap in the face. Nearly every song that he has composed lately seems to be about her. Perhaps its Lindsey’s questionable marriage or perhaps it’s their passion for their music that continues this spectacle, but nothing would please me more than the two of them getting together.

[Lori40]

Are you sure that the recent clip of Lindsey singing NGBA wasn't from John Stewart's memorial? If it was, I would think that he had John in mind while he was singing and got choked up.

I think that Stevie and Lindsey will always hold a special place for each other in their hearts, however, they have both moved on, years ago.

[Miss Vicky]

At the shows I've attended, the so-called "affection" between Stevie and Lindsey seemed very forced and done only to please the audience.

As for Lindsey's "questionable marriage," the interactions and affection shown during the documentary on Lindsey's Live At Bass Performance Hall DVD seem far more genuine than any recent thing I've seen of Lindsey and Stevie.

All in your perceptions, I guess.

[CADreaming]

Are you sure that the recent clip of Lindsey singing NGBA wasn't from John Stewart's memorial? If it was, I would think that he had John in mind while he was singing and got choked up.

Why would Lindsey be singing NGBA at John Stewart's memorial? I thought he just did John's songs...

[David]

Why would Lindsey be singing NGBA at John Stewart's memorial? I thought he just did John's songs...He mentioned it a bit at the concert. NGBA is a good example of Lindsey's modified Travis-style fingerpicking, which he picked up largely from old Kingston Trio albums -- listening to John Stewart play!

John Stewart was a big fan of the white FM album, & used to tell Nick Reynolds that he -- Stewart -- swore that Lindsey was playing banjo style with his electric guitar on that album.

Each one influenced the playing style of the other, to an extent -- but they didn't know about the mutual influence until some time later when they actually met.

[CADreaming]

He mentioned it a bit at the concert. NGBA is a good example of Lindsey's modified Travis-style fingerpicking, which he picked up largely from old Kingston Trio albums -- listening to John Stewart play!

John Stewart was a big fan of the white FM album, & used to tell Nick Reynolds that he -- Stewart -- swore that Lindsey was playing banjo style with his electric guitar on that album.

Each one influenced the playing style of the other, to an extent -- but they didn't know about the mutual influence until some time later when they actually met.

Oh, ok. Yeah, I knew Lindsey and John were co-influencers. I just didn't think Lindsey sang NGBA at the funeral/memorial. Thanks for the info about the White album - interesting take on the finger picking style. I'll have to re-listen with that in mind.

[David]

Oh, ok. Yeah, I knew Lindsey and John were co-influencers. I just didn't think Lindsey sang NGBA at the funeral/memorial. Thanks for the info about the White album - interesting take on the finger picking style. I'll have to re-listen with that in mind.Dreaming, did you ever see the Kingston Trio Reunion 1981 on video? John tells the story there before playing YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO KANSAS (on his Turner Model 1).

[mylittledemon]

Am I the only one who can see that Lindsey is still in love with Stevie? I can find nothing of late regarding their feelings for each other. I saw a fairly recent video clip where Lindsey was singing ‘Never go Back’, which he wrote about her and he paused for a minute and you could see that he was feeling her and then he got all choked up. Both Lindsey and Stevie have written dozens of songs about the love that they share. They seem like a modern day Immortal Beloved. Each of them has revealed themselves to me in their music, and I love them for that, which is why I am consumed by their love issues. I believe that Stevie keeps her feelings hidden better than Lindsey, from what videos I have seen of him singing to her or about her. I believe that Stevie has always and continues to “taunt” Lindsey with her lyrics that hit you like a slap in the face. Nearly every song that he has composed lately seems to be about her. Perhaps its Lindsey’s questionable marriage or perhaps it’s their passion for their music that continues this spectacle, but nothing would please me more than the two of them getting together.

I think they will always love and care for one another. I don't think Lindsey is "in love" with her anymore.

[njova]

Joe Walsh is the love of Stevie's life not Lindsey, and Kristen for obvious reasons is the love of Lindsey's life not Stevie. I think that answers the question about Lindsey's heart.

[CADreaming]

Dreaming, did you ever see the Kingston Trio Reunion 1981 on video? John tells the story there before playing YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO KANSAS (on his Turner Model 1).

No, I haven't seen that. I'll have to check it out. Thanks!

Joe Walsh is the love of Stevie's life not Lindsey, and Kristen for obvious reasons is the love of Lindsey's life not Stevie. I think that answers the question about Lindsey's heart.

LOL. That is so funny...

[Bit_Image]

What about this song writen by Lindsey in 2005..

Oh you and I, we sure can dream
Of conversations that might have been
I know that I treat you unkind
And long ago I lost my mind
And even after all these years
Though I can't even see you clear
I know it's you
Must lie sometimes
To hide the truth
You're trying to find
Oh I shut us down
No I will stay around
As long as I can
As long as I can

Even after all these years
I can't even see you clear
A child is born
Another dies
And every life has its price
No I shut us down
No I will stay around
As long as I can
As long as I can


This is for sure written to Stevie, saying that he wont shut down thier relationship, and he is still waiting.

[Peestie]

He also wrote SYH and IWY which are very much about the happiness he has found with his wife and family.

I think that if he hasn't moved on by this stage in his life when he has a family and loving wife (how is it a "questionable marriage"?) then that's pretty pathetic. He's had plenty of other relationships in his life and loads and loads of time away from Stevie so I don't want to think that he isn't capable of growth in over 30 years.

Besides, he wrote an entire album for Carol Ann Harris and people don't go on and on about it. I'd say that many of his TITN songs were also about the ending of that relationship - 'Caroline' certainly wasn't very disguised in who it was about.

[goldie]

Didn't he say on some documentary that NGBA was about another girlfriend he met, after he and Stevie broke up?

[michelej1]

Didn't he say on some documentary that NGBA was about another girlfriend he met, after he and Stevie broke up?

This is what he said:

I remember writing that when we got off the road. It was written about a girl that I had met in New England and spent a very short amount of time with. Someone who really, initially, didn’t want to spend time with me, and I talked her into it. And of course, “been down one time, been down two times, never going back again,” is really a sweet sentiment. It’s a naïve sentiment. Because every time you are happy, you create this illusion for yourself that you’re never gonna be unhappy again. Life doesn’t really work that way, and you have to learn to accept that you’ll have ups and downs your entire life. So that was really the sentiment of the song for me.

Stevie thought the song was for her though and said it was the sweetest thing he'd ever written for her because although he says he's never going back at the end he says, "come down and see me again". So, she thought that meant, he really wanted to come back. Of course, she could read the "lay me down in the tall grass" the same way if she wanted to, but I've never really heard her say anything about Second Hand News.Michele

[CADreaming]

This is what he said:



Stevie thought the song was for her though and said it was the sweetest thing he'd ever written for her because although he says he's never going back at the end he says, "come down and see me again". So, she thought that meant, he really wanted to come back. Of course, she could read the "lay me down in the tall grass" the same way if she wanted to, but I've never really heard her say anything about Second Hand News.Michele

Lindsey also said in the Rockline interview that NGBA is a song that has "changed meanings" over the years and it means something different to him now than it did when he wrote it.

Didn't he say on some documentary that NGBA was about another girlfriend he met, after he and Stevie broke up?

I've heard people refer to this girl (who was more than likely a groupie, a one nighter) as "Wendy Sails" because of LB's quote from the Making of Rumours dvd where he said she had "put the wind back in his sails" so to speak. LOL

[Amy Y]

I don't know. When I write songs, I can quickly say that it's about one thing when it's actually valid to say it's about many things. "No, Bill, this song isn't about my ex-boyfriend, but damn, it seems like it could be." It can be convenient, actually.

But, I'm sure as everyone in this wide world might agree, emotions are rather complicated. Some people, you just don't get over, but it doesn't mean that they are your one and only. To think so is rather simple. I have no problem with Stevie/Lindsey dreamers, but the reality is... They both love elsewhere now, they have loved elsewhere for many years. And, just because one may still hold feelings for the other really doesn't set in stone who they belong with. Most people are owned or are dedicated to a few, if you look deep enough. I find it unrealistic to pin one individual to another forever... That's just not how life works, and thank god. Life and love would be boring, otherwise.

[MiniLindsey]

I'm pretty sure "It Was You" answers all doubts.

[DESTINYRU!ES]

Is it really important for us to waste time talking about other people's love lives? i say live your own....and let them have some privacy!

[Bit_Image]

Is it really important for us to waste time talking about other people's love lives? i say live your own....and let them have some privacy!

It is important to me, as I am attempting to figure out the meaning of many of my favorite songs by FM.

[DESTINYRU!ES]

Why not connect to the feeling the song gives you rather than "what it's supposed to mean"? You'll spend lots of mental energy on it and even then it's only assumption. You can't ever know what other people truly think, but hey if thinking you have it all "figured out" is enjoyable to you, go for it...

[gretchen]

As I posted in the Stevie forum...
The only one who truly knows Lindsey's heart is Lindsey. But I really do feel Stevie is his soulmate, whether they are physically together or not. I feel their emotional bond is still so strong, and it can never be broken. Ever. Emotion is the driving force behind love is it not??? I believe she touches his mind in a way no other woman has or ever will and that is so very powerful (not to say she hasn't touched him physically in an unforgettable way either :D ). There is an eternal magic there.

[Bit_Image]

My wife thinks she heard that Lindsey and Christy had a short fling, is there any truth to that?

[sywlindseyfan]

haha i heard this too, I sure hope so, cuz that would be hot to think about, haha...in a non dirty way...sorry I went to far

[wondergirl9847]

My wife thinks she heard that Lindsey and Christy had a short fling, is there any truth to that?

I TOLD your wife to keep that to herself!!

DANGIT! :mad:

:laugh:

[trackaghost]

My wife thinks she heard that Lindsey and Christy had a short fling, is there any truth to that?

Her name is Christine not Christy.

[Lee]

Am I the only one who can see that Lindsey is still in love with Stevie? I can find nothing of late regarding their feelings for each other. I saw a fairly recent video clip where Lindsey was singing ‘Never go Back’, which he wrote about her and he paused for a minute and you could see that he was feeling her and then he got all choked up. Both Lindsey and Stevie have written dozens of songs about the love that they share. They seem like a modern day Immortal Beloved. Each of them has revealed themselves to me in their music, and I love them for that, which is why I am consumed by their love issues. I believe that Stevie keeps her feelings hidden better than Lindsey, from what videos I have seen of him singing to her or about her. I believe that Stevie has always and continues to “taunt” Lindsey with her lyrics that hit you like a slap in the face. Nearly every song that he has composed lately seems to be about her. Perhaps its Lindsey’s questionable marriage or perhaps it’s their passion for their music that continues this spectacle, but nothing would please me more than the two of them getting together.

Well I used to think that, especially when I first saw The Dance on PBS, that there was a certain chemistry between Lindsey & Stevie that maybe carried over into their personal life. But that was about the time that Kristen got pregnant for the first time I believe, & then everything changed. Now I think Lindsey & Stevie are happier in their separate lives the way they are now. I have read different things that Stevie has said that have caused me to think that they even don't get along too well now. :shrug: She's said that he was not very nice to her during their last tour, so maybe it's just creative differences there. They still have that chemistry on stage; I think they will always have that, but as for their personal life, I think not.

Lee :)

[Nico]

I basically agree with Lee. I think Lindsey and Stevie's chemistry during The Dance was incredible. Maybe there was something going on then, maybe not, but everything about that show was so intense and...you almost feel like a voyeur when you see how heated it was between them on stage. Could be acted, could be not, but they were good.

Since then, however, not too much. I think Live in Boston was sort of drab chemistry, to be honest. I LOVE that DVD, though, but mainly because of Lindsey's energy and overall craziness. If I hadn't known about SnL prior to, however, I wouldn't have thought much about their relationship from just watching that.

I really think Lindsey's moved on with his family. He looks positively content and a certain warmth radiates from him when I see pics of him with his children. Nothing's perfect, but he sure looks like he's got a lot to be grateful for. Stevie seems totally happy doing her thing. I'm not thrilled with her continually dragging LB's name through the mud in interviews, but that's her prerogative I suppose, even if it makes her sound a little sour. I'm aware that neither are perfect, but feel they both seem to be in pretty good- and very separate-places in their lives.

[Karlie]

I'm going to use preschool logic here and say, "If he loves her, why doesn't he marry her?" Case closed. I think it's futile to overanalyze something like this.

But to the person who mentioned something about a Lindsey/Christine fling, that would be kinda hot.

And I too hate when people call her "Christy".

[Bit_Image]

I apologize for calling her Christy. Please understand, I am a newbie in regards to my fanfare of Fleetwood Mac. Being 36, I listened to their songs all my life. However, it wasn’t until I found the connection between Stevie and Lindsay did I become truly impressed with their talent. When I began to learn of their past, I began to piece together the lyrics of their songs. It is at this point that I truly became immersed in FM. I know what it is like to have loved and have lost, and the FM saga somehow helps me understand myself when I listen to the songs now. The impact of their words and music have made a difference in my life.