View Full Version : UTS Tour Stats (15 dates only)
MacMan
06-04-2008, 11:33 PM
edit: Scored a bunch of new dates today... All marked with an astrick. Total dates now: 34
I've been compiling these tour stats from Billboard, and I forgot that I had them... These 15 dates were the only dates (that I could find) that were reported to Billboard. If by chance anyone else has other show stats from the tour, please post.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/nickslive/LB-UnderTheSkinTourStats1.jpg
michelej1
06-04-2008, 11:48 PM
100% in San Francisco. Good to know that the homies came out for him en masse.
Also 100% in Philly. I don't know what that's all about!
Michele
strandinthewind
06-05-2008, 07:04 AM
average of 60% and a low of 36% - Ouch! :eek:
But, I think he never let it show if he was upset as he seemed to have a blast at most of these smaller venues despite the poor ticket sales. I wonder how much this tour cost him as the grosses seemingly would not pay for the tour. I am glad he did it though.
bucklind17
06-05-2008, 07:31 AM
100% in San Francisco. Good to know that the homies came out for him en masse.
Also 100% in Philly. I don't know what that's all about!
Michele
Probably had to do with that venue being half the size of all the other venues!
Madness Fades
06-05-2008, 07:59 AM
Well I'm thinking Logically here and if those stats are how Lindsey faired out from a tour in his home country. I can understand why he chose not to do a UK & Ireland tour.
However his new manager has much bigger and better plans for Lindsey from what im told, and this is why the Rock album hasnt been released yet.
His new manager has much more power in the industry and is the current manager of one of the greatest ever bands so were in for something good next time round.
wether or not its before or after the confirmed Fleetwood Mac tour which is definately going to happen (so I'm told) remains to be seen.
be good
David
06-05-2008, 10:35 AM
I think Lindsey would get a bigger crowd out there if he co-billed with, say, U2.
In other news, I'm impressed with these figures, which range from 400 to 1,400 per show. Those are human beings! Those aren't just numbers. They're people who said to themselves, "I'm going to see Lindsey Buckingham even if it kills me." They wanted to be there. They laughed. They cried. They cheered. They plotzed when Lindsey bent over & wacked his GO YOUR OWN WAY like a churning wooden basin of butter.
So I think it's good. He should tour like that again. Heck, that's 400 to 1,400 more people turning out for him than would turn out for any of us.
In other news, I watched LIVE AT BASS HALL (?) the other night. Disc sent from NetFlix. I found it somewhat interesting. The pain is in listening to him sing, in general. But it was fun hearing Taku pay homage to Mick Fleetwood with little riffs & fills during TUSK. There was a lot of backup tape used for this concert, which disheartened me somewhat -- although if I think about it now, I don't really care. I mostly enjoyed the medium-short film on the DVD. The scenes with Lindsey speaking sotto voce into the phone with a manager (?) about various labels refusing to sign him were so funny that I laughed myself silly. In those scenes, Lindsey is Everyman. Awareness dawns slowly in him. His plight is a metaphor for everyone's plight.
strandinthewind
06-05-2008, 12:19 PM
. . . Heck, that's 400 to 1,400 more people turning out for him than would turn out for any of us . . . .
Speak for yourself :mad:
:wavey:
iamnotafraid
06-05-2008, 04:17 PM
MacMan, Thanks for posting those stats. It was very interesting to see. One of the concerts listed I'd attended. I guess you could look at the attendance as either half-full or half-empty. At first I was a little depressed about the attendance at the show I went to. But I changed with my mind with time. Lindsey knew how it was going to be before he stepped out onto that stage. And he clearly enjoyed it. These shows were for him and his fans. And I believe he gave it all he had. There had to be great satisfaction in knowing that the fans were there to see him and not the Mac. And if he was concerned about the money the tour would make, he wouldn't have used a private jet for this tour. Over all I would imagine he was happy with the tour, why else would he have kept adding dates?
David, I understand what you're saying about his singing. But with Lindsey I think it's more about feeling than perfection. After seeing him on this tour I thought, how does he do this night after night without shredding his vocal cords? He certainly doesn't hold anything back.
MadnessFades, what new manager? He's not with T.D. now?
mylittledemon
06-05-2008, 06:08 PM
I've been compiling these tour stats from Billboard, and I forgot that I had them... These 15 dates were the only dates (that I could find) that were reported to Billboard. If by chance anyone else has other show stats from the tour, please post.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/nickslive/LB--UNDERTHESKINTOUR.jpg
Well I saw him in Knoxville on Mar 17, 2007 and the house was packed!
BTFLCHLD
06-05-2008, 06:17 PM
Well I saw him in Knoxville on Mar 17, 2007 and the house was packed!
I don't pay much attention to how many are in attendance. I don't believe Lindsey does either - some is enough. There could be three people or 3000 behind me...I wouldn't notice...and I believe that Lindsey would play for either crowd. yes, $$ sweet but it is the music and those it does reach that matters...so say my musician friends anyway.
mylittledemon
06-05-2008, 06:19 PM
I don't pay much attention to how many are in attendance. I don't believe Lindsey does either - some is enough. There could be three people or 3000 behind me...I wouldn't notice...and I believe that Lindsey would play for either crowd. yes, $$ sweet but it is the music and those it does reach that matters...so say my musician friends anyway.
yeah i suppose according to the numbers above, he should've "cancelled" the tour. (from a manager standpoint) $33,000 a night though, is still a lot of money...and probably more than enough to keep everyone employed, fed, clothed, and happy.
strandinthewind
06-05-2008, 06:20 PM
I don't pay much attention to how many are in attendance. I don't believe Lindsey does either - some is enough. There could be three people or 3000 behind me...I wouldn't notice...and I believe that Lindsey would play for either crowd. yes, $$ sweet but it is the music and those it does reach that matters...so say my musician friends anyway.
TO a degree, yes. However, if you are shelling out $25,000 a show out of your own pocket to make up the difference, it starts to matter. I am not saying it cost him that much, but clearly those shows were expensive to do considering the crewe and the musicians playing with him. Who knows though, they could have cut their fee. I certainly would have to go on the road with LB.
Stew_Matthews
06-05-2008, 06:29 PM
TO a degree, yes. However, if you are shelling out $25,000 a show out of your own pocket to make up the difference, it starts to matter. I am not saying it cost him that much, but clearly those shows were expensive to do considering the crewe and the musicians playing with him. Who knows though, they could have cut their fee. I certainly would have to go on the road with LB.
Why does it matter? If someone has the money (and we've heard the quotes that Lindsey got paid first cos he was the Producer (most times)) why shouldn't they spend it as they want? Why does a tour have to make a profit? You may think that life is always about making a buck here and there but Mr Buckingham may not............ I politely suggest.
BTFLCHLD
06-05-2008, 06:31 PM
TO a degree, yes. However, if you are shelling out $25,000 a show out of your own pocket to make up the difference, it starts to matter. I am not saying it cost him that much, but clearly those shows were expensive to do considering the crewe and the musicians playing with him. Who knows though, they could have cut their fee. I certainly would have to go on the road with LB. I know it starts to matter dear...but I doubt Lindsey needed sponsors. Lindsey knows numbers and does it anyway...that is what is so 'fin cool about him.
Imagine the suckage for struggling musicians who can't get lift as they have no $$ yet they pull it out anyway so they can gig an open mic...get the music heard. I am way more impressed with an artist whose music means something to them...everything to them...so much that they eat toast for a week...then some cut-out with dollars out the bum.
*Thanks for translating* :lol:
strandinthewind
06-05-2008, 07:07 PM
Lord - settle down children :eek: I am just saying that I think it was cool of him to shell out the cash. Also - lighten up Stew or there will be severe consequences, to wit:
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BTFLCHLD
06-05-2008, 07:15 PM
Lord - settle down children :eek: oh poop. :xoxo:
Stew_Matthews
06-05-2008, 07:24 PM
Lord - settle down children :eek: I am just saying that I think it was cool of him to shell out the cash. Also - lighten up Stew or there will be severe consequences, to wit:
No you were being a bit horrible about him in that lawyer 'ish' way, where you don't really say what you mean.:)
I don't think leather is my thing but you are on for the club;)
CADreaming
06-05-2008, 07:41 PM
Ouch - grossing $12k in Myrtle Beach - he HAD to operate in the red that night. He didn't make enough to pay himself!
Regina
06-05-2008, 09:18 PM
100% in San Francisco. Good to know that the homies came out for him en masse.
Also 100% in Philly. I don't know what that's all about!
Michele
I was at that show and I have to say it was the best, most enthusiastic audience I had seen for a Lindsey show.
They were fabulous. And people were trying to get in to the sold out show, so I don't think it's only a smallish venue (which wasn't actually all that small when you were in there).
Philly loves FM and all its members and they sure are enthusiastic about it. It was a great show and I'm only sorry that my hometown (NY) didn't show up as well.
Tango
06-06-2008, 12:27 AM
I was at that show and I have to say it was the best, most enthusiastic audience I had seen for a Lindsey show.
They were fabulous. And people were trying to get in to the sold out show, so I don't think it's only a smallish venue (which wasn't actually all that small when you were in there).
Philly loves FM and all its members and they sure are enthusiastic about it. It was a great show and I'm only sorry that my hometown (NY) didn't show up as well.
I agree on your description of Philadelphia. An online site states The Theatre of The Living Arts seats 486 people.
Theater of the Living Arts
334 South Street
Philadelphia, PA 19147
michelej1
06-06-2008, 01:49 PM
I don't have any Tango stats, but I did see an old one from 1993.
Tina Turner, with Lindsey Buckingham.
Radio City Music Hall
July 12, 13, 14, 16, 17
Capacity 29,075 five sell out shows
Gross: $ 1,205,320
michelej1
06-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Well I'm thinking Logically here and if those stats are how Lindsey faired out from a tour in his home country. I can understand why he chose not to do a UK & Ireland tour.
I'd agree, but then I was just reading about Mick's European tour today. If he can afford to go (with a band that's larger than Lindsey's), then I think Lindsey might be able to swing a few overseas dates, if he wanted. Michele
MacMan
06-09-2008, 10:49 PM
I updated my first post, page 1. Managed to get my hands on a bunch of dates for 06 and 07. Total so far is 34.
michelej1
06-09-2008, 11:17 PM
I'm thrilled that Los Angeles was 100%.
I had assumed that he must do well in Chicago, since he had 2 nights there and so the 91% figure makes sense. I don't know why he did 2 nights in Colorado though. Michele
Betsy
06-10-2008, 11:27 AM
^^^
A lady with a backstage pass said it was because Neil lives here (Colorado.)
michelej1
06-10-2008, 02:13 PM
^^^
A lady with a backstage pass said it was because Neil lives here (Colorado.)
I'm sure Neale must have gotten a loud round of applause during the band intros, then. Well, then that gives Lindsey an excuse to go to England too. I'm sure Neale has family there!
I was thinking about Shut Us Down this week and I imagine that Neale is the one who brought Cory to Lindsey's notice.
Anyway, I remember in Denver, Lindsey was taking oxygen. It may have been my imagination, but I thought Stevie was concerned about it. At least she was staring at him. I think the altitude made me a little lightheaded as well, I know I fell on the way to the arena -- but that could have been simple clumsiness:laugh:.
Michele
Betsy
06-10-2008, 02:55 PM
^^ Oops, misspelled Neale.
The lady said she got the backstage pass, because her son takes guitar lessons from Neale.
Sahara
06-22-2008, 12:20 PM
Well I'm thinking Logically here and if those stats are how Lindsey faired out from a tour in his home country. I can understand why he chose not to do a UK & Ireland tour.
Maybe so, but it doesn't have to be massive or very long.
Sahara
06-22-2008, 12:21 PM
I think Lindsey would get a bigger crowd out there if he co-billed with, say, U2.
Oh God, please take that back! :distress: Lindsey would be wasted on those guys, and he's more than fit to do a tour on his own over here.
Betsy
06-23-2008, 07:45 PM
RE: Making money or losing Money
Does the artist make any moolah off the tour merchandise? I bought some t -shirts ($30 a piece) and an autographed CD for $25.
I wonder why he (or the powers that be) didn't sell the leftovers at fanfire.com like Tom Petty did.
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