I Know I'm Not Wrong

[shackin'up]

Since too many people were thrown out of this place, even Danax6, one of the most truthfull Macfans on the net, I just want to say to you all: Thank You. But this place has become too "Bush-y" for a leftwing European. The American inconsequent reading of rules has gone too far for me. All people that I love over here: I think my time has come to say: Now I say Goodbye to you. There are more "free" places on the net that deserve my energy.

[Madness Fades]

What do this mean. I dont understand. The ledge has been fine has it not.....

i need examples

[mylittledemon]

I'm sorry to hear that so many people are being banned, for whatever reason. I see many people are leaving as well and heading to the new Fleetwood Mac forum. I enjoy the Ledge, and have a fondness for it...especially because I have been here for so long like many others. I hope whatever it is that is going on can be resolved and we can get more folks back here.

[wondergirl9847]

WTH?! What new FM forum? Why are people getting banned?

I miss everything.

[Ledge Moderators]

Six people were suspended for 7 days for ongoing attack posts against another Ledgie. That 7 day period expired on April 24.

During the suspension, one gentleman used a second user id to stir up further conflict. He is the only person who was permanently banned in recent months, due to his deceptive use of the alias id. No one else is banned. Their absence is quite voluntary.

[Sarah]

well alrighty then.

http://hardwarelogic.com/articles/blogs/Website_Reviews_and_You/MoreYouKnow.jpg

[gldstwmn]

Gerald, are those mushrooms in your avatar and sig pic?

[LukeA]

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Ledge Boards" group?

[sara1998]

well alrighty then.

http://hardwarelogic.com/articles/blogs/Website_Reviews_and_You/MoreYouKnow.jpg

That reminds me of that one episode of Family Guy...
Hilarious... :lol:

[suzyvermoesen]

Since too many people were thrown out of this place, even Danax6, one of the most truthfull Macfans on the net, I just want to say to you all: Thank You. But this place has become too "Bush-y" for a leftwing European. The American inconsequent reading of rules has gone too far for me. All people that I love over here: I think my time has come to say: Now I say Goodbye to you. There are more "free" places on the net that deserve my energy.

:shocked: the past 2 weeks or so i have been too busy to regularly visit here so i'm totally out of it. Today, being a slow day at work, i have been trying to "catch up" and this is what i find out ! My "noorderburen" have both left The Ledge :eek:
Please come back Vanessa and Gerald , if only to counter balance opinions with a continental european view ...

[shackin'up]

Gerald, are those mushrooms in your avatar and sig pic?

No.





:lol:

What else dear? :lol:

[HejiraNYC]

No.





:lol:

What else dear? :lol:

Back from retirement so soon, Tina? :cool:

[SortaSavageLike]

Back from retirement so soon, Tina? :cool:

This just reinforces my faith in cycles!

[gldstwmn]

LOL at posts 11 -13. :lol: You guys are funny.

[SuzeQuze]

I knew he'd be back but it was definitely faster than expected!

[shackin'up]

Oh, I'll be gone, don't worry.

Posts 12 and 13 are from people who I deeply respect. They always respond nicely to me. Fock off you two, because you've never respected me.
No, I'm here to finish a 5 year-membership. I've received some PM's and I wanted to respond to gldstwmn, because I DO like her. You guys don't have a clue about what mess this board has made from a community that really bonded friends. They're mostly kicked out or fed up with the board. I've swallowed a lot of **** for a long time and now it's bye. I Know that there are a few people here that liked my existance as shackin'up on the ledge. And I know that there are some people who will miss me as toothache. Whaever.

[gldstwmn]

I've received some PM's and I wanted to respond to gldstwmn, because I DO like her.

Awww...I like you too Gerald. I hope you reconsider. You will be missed.

[mylittledemon]

I dont want anyone to leave.

[HejiraNYC]

Oh, I'll be gone, don't worry.

Posts 12 and 13 are from people who I deeply respect. They always respond nicely to me. Fock off you two, because you've never respected me.
No, I'm here to finish a 5 year-membership. I've received some PM's and I wanted to respond to gldstwmn, because I DO like her. You guys don't have a clue about what mess this board has made from a community that really bonded friends. They're mostly kicked out or fed up with the board. I've swallowed a lot of **** for a long time and now it's bye. I Know that there are a few people here that liked my existance as shackin'up on the ledge. And I know that there are some people who will miss me as toothache. Whaever.

So GO already. Why do you have to drag this out, and in the process drag this forum (and everyone who currently posts) under the bus? You are essentially telling those of us who remain, in your very self-important way, that we are not worthy of your high and mighty presence. You could have just honorably disappeared into the night(like many others). But the hard truth is... most of us do not care that you are going.

Sayonara! :wavey:

[SortaSavageLike]

You know, when I got banned from Seven Wonders, I insisted on telling the forum owner to take something long and pointy and ram it where the sun doesn't shine.

It worked. And it'll work here, too. No muss, no fuss.

[Hawkeye]

Please Don't Go Gerald, you're too vital to the ledge. I too am very disatisfied with things here as of late, but in the end my love of the band and its members trumps all of that, and there's still enough great people left to keep The Ledge, The Ledge.

[dnightshade]

I'm not in any private cliques and I don't know alot of people here beyond their screen names but I enjoy all the posts and contributions people make: photos, links, downloads. I hope no one leaves because this seems like a great place with a lot of interesting, knowledgable and entertaining personalities.

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

Oh, I'll be gone, don't worry.

Posts 12 and 13 are from people who I deeply respect. They always respond nicely to me. Fock off you two, because you've never respected me.
No, I'm here to finish a 5 year-membership. I've received some PM's and I wanted to respond to gldstwmn, because I DO like her. You guys don't have a clue about what mess this board has made from a community that really bonded friends. They're mostly kicked out or fed up with the board. I've swallowed a lot of **** for a long time and now it's bye. I Know that there are a few people here that liked my existance as shackin'up on the ledge. And I know that there are some people who will miss me as toothache. Whaever.

I will miss you...you always had great insight on the Buckingham forum. It's a shame to lose you.

[suzyvermoesen]

Six people were suspended for 7 days for ongoing attack posts against another Ledgie. That 7 day period expired on April 24.

During the suspension, one gentleman used a second user id to stir up further conflict. He is the only person who was permanently banned in recent months, due to his deceptive use of the alias id. No one else is banned. Their absence is quite voluntary.

Have these "attack" posts been removed ? I have tried to find them so i could judge for myself but was unable to trace them. As Gerald already pointed out; Vanessa is a very honest and true fan and i find it hard to believe she would maliciously attack another fan.

[Beachwood Mac]

Have these "attack" posts been removed ? I have tried to find them so i could judge for myself but was unable to trace them. As Gerald already pointed out; Vanessa is a very honest and true fan and i find it hard to believe she would maliciously attack another fan.

Hey Suzy :wavey:

Look in the Vivica Fox thread. All the posts are still there. You won't find anything even remotely worthy of a suspension or banishment. :shrug:

[HejiraNYC]

Have these "attack" posts been removed ? I have tried to find them so i could judge for myself but was unable to trace them. As Gerald already pointed out; Vanessa is a very honest and true fan and i find it hard to believe she would maliciously attack another fan.

Well, the gory details have been stripped (I think), but I think this is where the drama started:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=35275&page=10&highlight=vivica

Although the banning was only temporary, it looks like people have chosen not to return. :distress: I think it's one thing to give someone a strike, but I think the temporary suspension on top of that, for a transgression that was arguably not particularly mean-spirited, was a bit excessive. There is a way to enforce the rules at the Ledge without slowly killing it at the same time.

[suzyvermoesen]

Thanks guys for pointing me.
I've read the thread : boooooring !!!!!!!!
And to ban someone for only a few innocent remarks ? I'd say that's food for thought....

[Ledge Moderators]

Well, the gory details have been stripped (I think)

Yes, we did not delete any posts, but as the thread continued, users began deleting their own.

[trackaghost]

I'm the only one who deleted some posts and you can read absolutely everything I said in other people's quotes. It's still all there, everything that happened.
I just wanted to remove myself from the argument, probably in a foolish way.
I just wanted to clear that up, and sorry.
Anyway, I'm sad to go but I'll leave now...

[DrummerDeanna]

Yes, we did not delete any posts, but as the thread continued, users began deleting their own.


Except that none of the offenders removed any of their posts. At all. I was reading it - and keeping up with it, and nothing that I read at the time has been removed. What you see is what you get. (edit: except Sharon - but she explains that.)

I haven't posted on here in quite a while - mostly because I'm not interested in a lot of what's being posted on here.

I've been a member of the Ledge since 2000. 8 years of my life have been spent on the Ledge, which up until recently was my favorite place on the Internet. Now? Not so much.

It's a sad day when long-time, and in many cases supporting, members of this board are basically told to hit the road - when some new person who causes nothing but trouble is giving carte blanche. The rules are only applied to people the moderators decided they should be applied to...and things just aren't run fairly at all.

Of course this is when the new owner would come in and say "it's MY board and I don't have to be fair, it's my way or the highway." which is another problem I have with The Ledge as of late.

You have people who pay their own money to support this site - yet it's your way or the highway. Whatever - if alienating the solid base of this site - people who have been here for many years was your goal then congratulations.

The crime that was committed by these people was apparently meeting on here and forming real and lasting friendships. How dare they.

Anyway - it's not without a little sadness that I bid The Ledge farewell, though to be honest I feel like The Ledge left me long before I left the Ledge :lol:

[bretonbanquet]

Every word I said, including whichever post or posts I was banned for, is still there on the Vivfox thread for all to see. People can make up their own minds.

I enjoyed it here very much, but it's time to move on :wavey:

[JazmenFlowers]

what a waste this place has become. classic god complex. but so many on one board. that's gotta be a record.

there's so much to the story that most people don't even know/get. it's not all as it seems dear Ledgies. don't be fooled. look around.

...since you've been gone, Rome burned down...

[LukeA]

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Ledge Boards" group?

I repeat...

[JazmenFlowers]

I repeat...
since these aren't really concerns over the "set up" of the board, Chit Chat is actually the appropriate forum.

got PM or signature problems, etc., that would go there. it's more of an IT-type forum.

[LukeA]

since these aren't really concerns over the "set up" of the board, Chit Chat is actually the appropriate forum.

got PM or signature problems, etc., that would go there. it's more of an IT-type forum.

I guess it all depends on interpretation of "set up"- I mean, it would make sense to have discussions regarding membership/moderation of the boards in a forum dedicated to the boards themselves, rather than dragging it in here.

But, maybe that's just me.

[BTFLCHLD]

a forum dedicated to the boards well, one would think there would be enough HOT homan threads with the ledge as topic that that would keep oneself quite busy...apparently not. seems situations such as this tend to bring on that love/hate bit. :shrug:

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[jannieC]

I've been keeping quiet through this mostly because I am new at moderating and don't want to come off sounding like I believe I am an authority on anything. However, I do want to say that I wish that *no one* would leave. I will miss the folks that I genuinely thought of as friends here in cyberspace. Some of you have access to my private journal and there is a reason for that. All that being said, if The Ledge does not bring happiness to someone, he or she should have the right to move on.

I have been really busy trying to finish up graduate school (graduating in 15 days!) so I haven't had time to speak on these issues like I would have liked. I believe that the overall reasoning behind the suspensions was a feeling of a bullying attitude. Please bear in mind that every single rule break is not always picked up on by moderators. Most of the time, I receive a PM with a complaint before I've had the chance to see it in the thread itself. What I do is then copy the complaint and discuss it with the other moderators. I don't know ANY of the back stories or histories between different Ledgies. I've never been adept at figuring out who likes or dislikes who. I suppose that's due in part to the fact that before I became a moderator, I steered clear from "argument" threads.

No one moderator makes the decision to suspend or ban (I definitely would not feel comfortable with that "power" considering how long I've been here). I'd like to think that I try to be fair. I do admit not being quite as on top of things as I should, but I don't have as much time to read all the threads as I usually do, and for that, I apologize.

I'll end this by saying that I'm sorry to those who feel that they have not been treated fairly. The Ledge should be a place for Stevie and FM freaks (like me! :wavey:) to be able to get together and talk about the band and have interesting and thought provoking discussions.

[BTFLCHLD]

The Ledge should be a place for Stevie and FM freaks (like me! :wavey:) to be able to get together and talk about the band and have interesting and thought provoking discussions. great note, jannie. would be ubercool if we all could come together as FM fans. I, too, am on the miss for some peeps...but, in the circumstance of tempban, they do have freedom of choice to return or not...if they want to move on/away all I can offer is 'peace' and wish them well...odd shiz happens when 'feelings' are involved. :shrug:

[Moz]

I don't know why everyone is taking this so serious - "I'M GONNA TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME!" - come on. It's a forum. People seem so worked up over this.

[jannieC]

I don't know why everyone is taking this so serious - "I'M GONNA TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME!" - come on. It's a forum. People seem so worked up over this.

Many people have been a part of this community for several years. People have formed friendships.

[skcin]

I don't know why everyone is taking this so serious - "I'M GONNA TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME!" - come on. It's a forum. People seem so worked up over this.

Many people have been a part of this community for several years. People have formed friendships.

Exactly Jannie. Moz - people are simply letting friends know that they're leaving & why they're doing so. In the past, people have left without saying a word & others wondered what happened & worried about them in some cases.

I understand why they're leaving - I hardly post anymore, partly due to the fact that I worry I'll be banned. Things I used to feel comfortable saying, whether in jest or seriously, are no longer allowed. Over the past year, things have gotten to the point that any opinion posted directed at another member is construed as a personal attack, and several people disagreeing with someone are accused of being a clique who's purposely ganging up on that person. We can't have any discussions here anymore, lest they become the slightest bit heated, since the thread will surely be closed or deleted, or the "offenders" will be banned, or suspended, or whatever. The selective enforcement of the rules, and the varied punishment given for breaking them, makes people even more nervous. Some would just rather not bother.

I'll probably stick around, but I must say it's boring as hell around here these days.

[HomerMcvie]

I'm signed on, for the first time in 13 months.
For years, the Ledge was the BEST place on the net. Seriously. I absolutely LOVED this place. It was my home.

But, I was temporarily banned, along with a bunch of others, on 3/26/2007, for putting a picture of a horse's back side, in my signature. I chose to not return, and haven't, until now, just to say goodbye.
So, many Ledgies became friends. Really close friends. Friends bigger than the Ledge. More important than the Ledge.

I think the modding has gotten so out of control. Only certain people get the rules applied to them. Others slide through, with NO repercussions. The carte blanche, given to certain people, has ruined the Ledge, in my opinion. And it seems the modding is mainly directed at this fairly large group of friends, making sure it keeps them under control.
You know, a few days ago, I was reunited with Gerald, on the new board that just started. God, I didn't realize how much I missed so many of you people. More than words can say. And while I'm sure not everyone will join the new board, I sure hope a select group of you do.
I honestly do, wish all of you, the best, throughout your lives. Best of luck, and goodbye,
David

[BTFLCHLD]

People have formed friendships. friendships that appear to be built on tension. tension is definitely something I tend to lean from. whatever floats a boat I suppose...but for me there are better things to do with friends than grip on the ledge or anything else for that matter...particularly over time. :shrug:

[DavidMn]

So who was the person that was permanantly banned?

[Beachwood Mac]

So who was the person that was permanantly banned?

You...didn't you get the message :p

[BTFLCHLD]

I'm signed on, for the first time in 13 months. thank you for your note...huge of you to do so. I think of you often...you have been missed on this end. I'm sorry you have stayed away but do understand you have your reasons for doing so. I think it is great that your friends have a cool place to go and it has come alive for you there. cool you met on theledge :)

[DavidMn]

You...didn't you get the message :pUh oh, I'm afraid to ask, it wasnt me I dont think.... who was it?:lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

So who was the person that was permanantly banned?

It's a http://discog.fleetwoodmac.net/covers/152.jpg

[David]

I must say it's boring as hell around here these days.But I'm still here. :confused:

[DavidMn]

My question was anwered. Thank you.

[Peestie]

How do I always miss things like this? I guess it's because I always stick to the LB and Rumours forum and I've never seen any bad blood there - especially the LB forum where everyone seems to get on well no matter what opinions they had.

[sara1998]

I'm signed on, for the first time in 13 months.
For years, the Ledge was the BEST place on the net. Seriously. I absolutely LOVED this place. It was my home.

But, I was temporarily banned, along with a bunch of others, on 3/26/2007, for putting a picture of a horse's back side, in my signature. I chose to not return, and haven't, until now, just to say goodbye.
So, many Ledgies became friends. Really close friends. Friends bigger than the Ledge. More important than the Ledge.

I think the modding has gotten so out of control. Only certain people get the rules applied to them. Others slide through, with NO repercussions. The carte blanche, given to certain people, has ruined the Ledge, in my opinion. And it seems the modding is mainly directed at this fairly large group of friends, making sure it keeps them under control.
You know, a few days ago, I was reunited with Gerald, on the new board that just started. God, I didn't realize how much I missed so many of you people. More than words can say. And while I'm sure not everyone will join the new board, I sure hope a select group of you do.
I honestly do, wish all of you, the best, throughout your lives. Best of luck, and goodbye,
David

Where is this new board everyone speaks of??

[petep9000]

It's a secret.

[#1LiddyBuckFan]

How do I always miss things like this? I guess it's because I always stick to the LB and Rumours forum and I've never seen any bad blood there - especially the LB forum where everyone seems to get on well no matter what opinions they had.

Yeah, we might have some debates or semi-hot topics but nothing too crazy...Hopefully people stay on and keep contributing!!

[JWS]

Where is this new board everyone speaks of??

7W is the place.

[SuzeQuze]

7W is the place.

No, it's another site that looks suspiciously like The Ledge.

[skcin]

No, it's another site that looks suspiciously like The Ledge.

I don't know if suspiciously is the right word. Intentionally, perhaps? :p

[SuzeQuze]

I don't know if suspiciously is the right word. Intentionally, perhaps? :p

Hauntingly familiar or something. :lol:

[skcin]

Hauntingly familiar or something. :lol:

That's it! :p

[Sarah]

7W is the place.

7W will never be "the place". :distress:

[skcin]

7W will never be "the place". :distress:

Word on that bird.

[Phoenix]

Hauntingly familiar or something. :lol:


:lol:..........:cool:

[The Catdancer]

My question was anwered. Thank you.

So who was it?! :confused:

[Serrart]

No, it's another site that looks suspiciously like The Ledge.

That's very pop. And does everybody have an alias of an alias?


Romy

[sara1998]

It's a secret.

Don't be such an elitist. I've been here for years too.

[David]

Don't be such an elitist. I've been here for years too.It's not really a secret, but I have a feeling that Ledge rules proscribe linking to it. Did someone PM you?

[Nico]

I'm so confused.:shrug: Why are people leaving and where were all these "fights" taking place? Never mind. I think I spend far too long exclusively in the Lindsey section- and that's when I have time to come on here. I really love this board a lot because it's great to talk about Fleetwood Mac. I hate to see that sort of break up. Especially when great posters are leaving...so sad.

[SortaSavageLike]

I'm so confused.:shrug: Why are people leaving and where were all these "fights" taking place? Never mind. I think I spend far too long exclusively in the Lindsey section- and that's when I have time to come on here. I really love this board a lot because it's great to talk about Fleetwood Mac. I hate to see that sort of break up. Especially when great posters are leaving...so sad.

Well, having visited the "new forum," I can tell you that it's already a monumental ****storm that won't end well. The animosity there makes the whole "Ledge vs. 7W" thing look like child's play.

Of course, what do you expect from a forum where people have penises and vaginas for their forum avatars? :rolleyes:

[seeker007nmss]

Well, having visited the "new forum," I can tell you that it's already a monumental ****storm that won't end well. The animosity there makes the whole "Ledge vs. 7W" thing look like child's play.

Of course, what do you expect from a forum where people have penises and vaginas for their forum avatars? :rolleyes:


Can you PM me the site, I wanna peek. Kinda like looking at a car wreck. You don't want to look, but you do anyway. :wavey:

[Miss Vicky]

Well, having visited the "new forum," I can tell you that it's already a monumental ****storm that won't end well. The animosity there makes the whole "Ledge vs. 7W" thing look like child's play.

Of course, what do you expect from a forum where people have penises and vaginas for their forum avatars? :rolleyes:


Have we been looking at the same forum? I see no ****storm. Nor are there avatars of penises or vaginas.

Yes, there is one thread that is anti-Ledge, but it was started by a member who was banned from these forums YEARS AGO and most of it is a very circular argument between one particular member and a few others. Basically it's a lot of "No, this is what I'm saying, you just don't get it" from both sides of the issue. I should also add that this particular argument has ended and the thread has turned into a discussion of how cute someone's dogs are. ****storm indeed.

As for the penises and vaginas - There is one member who has chosen a photo of a couch in the shape of a vagina as his avatar and there is another member who has chosen a photo of some very phallic mushrooms for his avatar, but you make it seem like there's graphic porn or something. Actually, it's just all in your sick little mind.

[jannieC]

Have we been looking at the same forum? I see no ****storm. Nor are there avatars of penises or vaginas.

Yes, there is one thread that is anti-Ledge, but it was started by a member who was banned from these forums YEARS AGO and most of it is a very circular argument between one particular member and a few others. Basically it's a lot of "No, this is what I'm saying, you just don't get it" from both sides of the issue. I should also add that this particular argument has ended and the thread has turned into a discussion of how cute someone's dogs are. ****storm indeed.

As for the penises and vaginas - There is one member who has chosen a photo of a couch in the shape of a vagina as his avatar and there is another member who has chosen a photo of some very phallic mushrooms for his avatar, but you make it seem like there's graphic porn or something. Actually, it's just all in your sick little mind.

Victoria- there really is no need for you to defend the other forum over here. As much as you dislike this place, why would you even be reading threads here?

[The Catdancer]

Well, having visited the "new forum," I can tell you that it's already a monumental ****storm that won't end well. The animosity there makes the whole "Ledge vs. 7W" thing look like child's play.

Of course, what do you expect from a forum where people have penises and vaginas for their forum avatars? :rolleyes:

This is not true, Jim and you know it. I'm there myself and I must say the atmosphere is very pleasant.

[gldstwmn]

Yes, there is one thread that is anti-Ledge, but it was started by a member who was banned from these forums YEARS AGO and most of it is a very circular argument between one particular member and a few others.

Let me guess...the return of Carne. :lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

I'm going to officially apologize for my hasty denouncement of the "other other forum."

I am a thin-skinned individual, after all. :p

[Steviefan49]

7W will never be "the place". :distress:

Girlfriend... all I can say is.. : :xoxo: I couldn't have said that any better myself !:p

[Miss Vicky]

Victoria- there really is no need for you to defend the other forum over here. As much as you dislike this place, why would you even be reading threads here?

Excuse me? At what point have I said that I dislike this place?

Yes, there are some people here that I dislike and I've made no secret of that, but I don't ever recall saying or implying that I don't like The Ledge itself. So please, enlighten me, where have I given that impression?

[jannieC]

Excuse me? At what point have I said that I dislike this place?

Yes, there are some people here that I dislike and I've made no secret of that, but I don't ever recall saying or implying that I don't like The Ledge itself. So please, enlighten me, where have I given that impression?

It must just be my perception. I apologize if it's not true.

[sara1998]

Let me guess...the return of Carne. :lol:

yep. :lol:

[Sarah]

Girlfriend... all I can say is.. : :xoxo: I couldn't have said that any better myself !:p

you know it :wavey:

[Serrart]

Can you PM me the site, I wanna peek. Kinda like looking at a car wreck. You don't want to look, but you do anyway. :wavey:

I was curious, didn't have the link but everybody can find it in 5 minutes... just don't be creative filling the search box.
It seems to me a quite normal FM forum (sic) more or less like this one, obviously some people there are angrier and the Ledge thread looks a bit like an Oliver Stone movie on acid, but I don't see anything evil there. Hope everybody is going to have fun on that forum and I have the same hope for this one. Sorry if I've broken some rule, but who would like to peek should peek, IMO, sectarism (on a field or the other) is really passé.

Just to be fair, I can add that all the Ledgies who are too creative (I repeat... go literal) to not find themselves the link won't have it from me.

Romy

[seeker007nmss]

I was curious, didn't have the link but everybody can find it in 5 minutes... just don't be creative filling the search box.
It seems to me a quite normal FM forum (sic) more or less like this one, obviously some people there are angrier and the Ledge thread looks a bit like an Oliver Stone movie on acid, but I don't see anything evil there. Hope everybody is going to have fun on that forum and I have the same hope for this one. Sorry if I've broken some rule, but who would like to peek should peek, IMO, sectarism (on a field or the other) is really passé.

Just to be fair, I can add that all the Ledgies who are too creative (I repeat... go literal) to not find themselves the link won't have it from me.

Romy

I asked for the link because I didn't feel like looking for it. I figured if you asked for info from a forum, someone would kind enough to give it to you if you asked. (and they did) I wasn't here when everything happened, I wanted to get an insight on events without drudging up or starting up another thread of "They did this and they did that". I won't pick sides - never have. I have no grudges with anyone and wish everyone the best. Being "too creative" has nothing to do with it. Laziness... well, yeah.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/happybunnyfriday_1.jpg

[Serrart]

I asked for the link because I didn't feel like looking for it. I figured if you asked for info from a forum, someone would kind enough to give it to you if you asked. (and they did) I wasn't here when everything happened, I wanted to get an insight on events without drudging up or starting up another thread of "They did this and they did that". I won't pick sides - never have. I have no grudges with anyone and wish everyone the best. Being "too creative" has nothing to do with it. Laziness... well, yeah.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/happybunnyfriday_1.jpg


Hope I didn't create a misunderstanding, the "too creative" thing wasn't referred to anyone. Since it's not possible to post links, it was just another way to suggest to whoever is interested how to find the other forum.

Romy

[seeker007nmss]

Hope I didn't create a misunderstanding, the "too creative" thing wasn't referred to anyone. Since it's not possible to post links, it was just another way to suggest to whoever is interested how to find the other forum.

Romy

NP. I found the forum to be just another flavor in the Mac icecream world. Find the one that fits your tastes.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/8501.jpg

[SuzeQuze]

NP. I found the forum to be just another flavor in the Mac icecream world. Find the one that fits your tastes.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/8501.jpg

Good point, not every board can be everyone's cup of tea.

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs13/p/2007/023/5/505db66464c85d97.jpg

[seeker007nmss]

Good point, not every board can be everyone's cup of tea.



http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/1163920505-1163840889264358_b.jpg

[LiamMcConville]

BLECK.

How I feel:

http://www.nataliedee.com/082304/why-i-hate-cats.jpg

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

BLECK.

How I feel:

http://www.nataliedee.com/082304/why-i-hate-cats.jpg

LOL!.... I just wanted to say that my cat always looks like she's smiling. Oh and we don't have a litter tray so she isn't stinky either! :p

[sara1998]

I just don't like cats, but I love the cat pictures. They're so cute! But, I prefer puppies...

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/gmfajilan/puppies.jpg

[Steviefan49]

I just don't like cats, but I love the cat pictures. They're so cute! But, I prefer puppies...

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/gmfajilan/puppies.jpg

Awwww.. what adorable babies! I love them both! I grew up with dogs, but also love cats.. They are both sweet babies..

[seeker007nmss]

I just don't like cats, but I love the cat pictures. They're so cute! But, I prefer puppies...



Did somone say puppies?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/Puppies20lined20up20in20a20cart2000.jpg

[Phoenix]

wow. just wow.