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bucklind17
02-11-2008, 08:13 PM
One of my favorite of the man's songs. Definitely my favorite of his on Mirage (not an entirely huge feat) but I tend to go through phases with his songs, FM and solo, and yet the love for this one never goes away.
Sooo, I ask, what is your favorite version of "Eyes of the World"? I know it's not as fun/easy as some of the older songs due to a relatively shorter live life but still, there's never too few or too many versions to be discussed!
I think my favorite version is the live one from Live in Boston, one of the few tracks I immediately took to from that collection. Just so full of energy and exciting and awesome and I love the drum and guitar intro that they used to replace the Christine/Lindsey vocal tennis match. Close runner up is the demo from Mirage, not the one that has Stevie singing "Enchanted" in it too, but the pretty clean one where Linds does some real hot "oh oh ohhhh"s. Mmm mmm good.
Chrislit18
02-11-2008, 08:26 PM
I like the mirage concert version the best. :)
I would have to say, that FM/Linds should def! do this live on the next tour, i think its much better live overall than on Mirage. JMO. [And Im a Mirage freak. haha]
face of glass
02-12-2008, 02:03 AM
Sooo, I ask, what is your favorite version of "Eyes of the World"?
Stephanie. ;)
mylittledemon
02-12-2008, 08:19 AM
Stephanie. ;)
Yup. Agreed.
Sarah
02-12-2008, 02:25 PM
I'm going to go with:
1. Album version
2. Mirage video
3. SYW tour versions
It's one of my all time favorites, too. Don't get me wrong, I understand where the "Stephanie" comments are coming from, but I don't have a problem calling them 2 different songs.
Betsy
02-12-2008, 02:38 PM
Stephanie. ;)
I never put those two together....
Can you tell me more? I never realized it before, but they do sound alike.
JbbyStew86
02-13-2008, 01:25 AM
my favorite has always been the version they did at the Forum during the Mirage Tour. theres a lot of energy there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1siQIq6CGEg
mylittledemon
02-13-2008, 01:21 PM
I never put those two together....
Can you tell me more? I never realized it before, but they do sound alike.
Well much like Tango in the Night's version of "Big Love" sounds like "Doing What I Can" from Out of the Cradle...he just borrowed elements of each song and re-used it. Lindsey is well known for doing that...no secret there!
Betsy
02-13-2008, 01:30 PM
^^^
I knew he recycled lyrics. He recycles music too? A nice lady (Lauren?) at the Denver concert told me that and tried to give me some examples...she said that there is a part in GYOW that is repeated elsewhere.
Can you or someone give me other examples...I'd be interested in hearing & studying them.
mylittledemon
02-13-2008, 01:37 PM
^^^
I knew he recycled lyrics. He recycles music too? A nice lady (Lauren?) at the Denver concert told me that and tried to give me some examples...she said that there is a part in GYOW that is repeated elsewhere.
Can you or someone give me other examples...I'd be interested in hearing & studying them.
i dont know about GYOW...
but def "Stephanie" and "Eyes of the World" are similar
"Big Love" (From Tango) and "Doing What I Can" are similar
I think the guitar solos on Frozen Love (Buckingham Nicks), I'm So Afraid, Murrow are all strinkingly similar.
Betsy
02-13-2008, 01:40 PM
Thought ChiliD had mentioned in a thread...long, long, ago, and far, far away...something that Lindsey said, he was stealing from himself...or something. I will have to do a search and see if I can find that thread. I think it had specific examples, and I just wasn't all that interested at the time I read the thread.
mylittledemon
02-13-2008, 01:41 PM
Thought ChiliD had mentioned in a thread...long, long, ago, and far, far away...something that Lindsey said, he was stealing from himself...or something. I will have to do a search and see if I can find that thread. I think it had specific examples, and I just wasn't all that interested at the time I read the thread.
Haha...yeah Chili loves pointing that stuff out. Its like a love/hate thing with Lindsey for him I take it.
I cant think of anything off the top of my head, other than what i listed above. I'd say 'Under the Skin' was the first time I felt like he did something moderately different than previous work.
gretchen
02-13-2008, 01:50 PM
Thought ChiliD had mentioned in a thread...long, long, ago, and far, far away...something that Lindsey said, he was stealing from himself...or something. I will have to do a search and see if I can find that thread. I think it had specific examples, and I just wasn't all that interested at the time I read the thread.
I think 'Doing What I Can' (OOTC) and 'Big Love' (Tango) share similarities if I am not mistaken.
michelej1
02-13-2008, 02:33 PM
Thought ChiliD had mentioned in a thread...long, long, ago, and far, far away...something that Lindsey said, he was stealing from himself...or something. I will have to do a search and see if I can find that thread. I think it had specific examples, and I just wasn't all that interested at the time I read the thread.
At the Soundstage taping, Lindsey did an impromptu guitar solo for Murrow, which was the same as his guitar solo from ISA and he said, "I am stealing from myself." However, I think he was just talking about that solo, not about his songs in general.
Michele
Sarah
02-13-2008, 02:57 PM
to me, it feels like all of the solos have hints of the go your own way "passage"/"riff". even more so during live performances.
it's like a default melody he goes to, but in different styles/phrasing, speeds, and keys. part of it is probably muscle memory from playing everything 10-gajillion times. he can't exactly get up and say he's tired certain songs, but i know i would be. i'm not trying to say he's lazy about it, but i think his attention during these particular times is more directed at how the crowd is seeing him.
bucklind17
02-13-2008, 03:30 PM
If we're going to say that "Stephanie" and "Eyes of the World" are so similar, we definitely must acknowledge the similarities between "Eyes of the World" and "Bang the Drum"! Then obviously there is the early demo where Stevie sings parts of "Enchanted", so it's possible SHE used some of the song for another song and I also read somewhere that in that original version, the drum beat was going to be used for "Bwana", but Lindsey decided to use it for "Eyes" instead. It's a popular tune!
As far as others go, I think there are at least four songs on SYW alone that have riffs from other recognizable tunes. Here is a thread from long ago regarding that: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=9596
UndoingTheLaces
02-13-2008, 09:01 PM
Just for kicks I did a sort of mashup of Enchanted and Eyes of the World, just to see how it would turn out. Here it is if you guys want to hear it. It could be better but it's fun for a curiosity. Here it is if you guys would like to hear it.
http://download.yousendit.com/E84EE71E1952EFBB
Betsy
02-14-2008, 01:02 AM
Just for kicks I did a sort of mashup of Enchanted and Eyes of the World, just to see how it would turn out. Here it is if you guys want to hear it. It could be better but it's fun for a curiosity. Here it is if you guys would like to hear it.
http://download.yousendit.com/E84EE71E1952EFBB
I LOVE THAT! It's a nice little ditty.
Me, and this here bottle of beer, find your tune very pleasant... And I plan to download it again tomorrow for some quality office listening.
How the hell did you do that? And do you have any more of those?
In all seriousness, I'd be interested in hearing others.
Thanks for putting it out there.
PM me any time with more experiments, should you get the creative spark again.
UndoingTheLaces
02-14-2008, 02:51 AM
Betsy,
I raise my beer in toast. Your post just made my night. Thank you. I'm glad you like it. I haven't really done any other mashups but I've done a few remixes. I'll pm you a few and see if you like 'em. :)
shackin'up
02-14-2008, 05:06 PM
Betsy,
I raise my beer in toast. Your post just made my night. Thank you. I'm glad you like it. I haven't really done any other mashups but I've done a few remixes. I'll pm you a few and see if you like 'em. :)
I'm very impressed by this mash-up, too. The only thing I miss is lindsey's ending solo, which is the BOMB. Very cool that you left the enchanted solo in the middle intact. very creative.
which software did you use?
:cool:
Sarah
02-14-2008, 05:23 PM
That's a fun mashup. Good work. :wavey:
chiliD
02-14-2008, 05:29 PM
Thought ChiliD had mentioned in a thread...long, long, ago, and far, far away...something that Lindsey said, he was stealing from himself...or something. I will have to do a search and see if I can find that thread. I think it had specific examples, and I just wasn't all that interested at the time I read the thread.
Haha...yeah Chili loves pointing that stuff out. Its like a love/hate thing with Lindsey for him I take it.
I cant think of anything off the top of my head, other than what i listed above. I'd say 'Under the Skin' was the first time I felt like he did something moderately different than previous work.
As I'd posted before...
Well, there's a few similarities betwen Tango... & ...Cradle tunes, besides the major pair already mentioned:
"You & I, Part II" / "Soul Drifter"
"Family Man" / "Surrender The Rain" (STR is a slowed down version of FM)
"Caroline" / "This Is The Time"
And, you can add "Tango In The Night" to the "I'm So Afraid/Frozen Love/Murrow" cloned solo.
And, kudos to bucklind17 for recognizing the "Stephanie/Eyes Of The World" riff during "Bang The Drum". That one isn't as obvious and not too many people catch that one.
And, the obvious lyrical pilfering between "I Know I'm Not Wrong" & "Not That Funny" as well as "You Do Or You Don't" & "Bleed To Love Her".
But, then, it's not just Buckingham...listen to Pete Townshend's early work with The Who...there's a ton of themes & lyrics he used on individual songs that reappear as major themes (and slightly altered lyrics) in Tommy & Quadrophenia, too.
shackin'up
02-14-2008, 05:55 PM
Thought ChiliD had mentioned in a thread...long, long, ago, and far, far away...something that Lindsey said, he was stealing from himself...or something.
As I recall, Lindsey mentioned that stealing from himself during the soundstage taping in 2003. He did (almost every) song twice during that taping. Some witnesses mentioned that he said that after the first performance of Murrow that night, just after he finished the solo. I don't know which one ended up on the DVD.
UndoingTheLaces
02-15-2008, 04:00 AM
I'm very impressed by this mash-up, too. The only thing I miss is lindsey's ending solo, which is the BOMB. Very cool that you left the enchanted solo in the middle intact. very creative.
which software did you use?
:cool:
Thank you guys for the kind words. I used a program called ACID by Sonic Foundry. I've been using the same program for many years and recently upgraded my computer. So I'm looking forward to trying the new Acid out, which is supposed to be worlds better than the old version I was using. So once I get the hand of it I'll be doing a lot more stuff with it.
I really wanted to use Lindsey's ending solo in my mashup but he starts playing a little faster and it wouldn't synch up to the end of Enchanted. but yeah, the idea did occur to me. :)
shackin'up
02-15-2008, 05:15 AM
Thank you guys for the kind words. I used a program called ACID by Sonic Foundry. I've been using the same program for many years and recently upgraded my computer. So I'm looking forward to trying the new Acid out, which is supposed to be worlds better than the old version I was using. So once I get the hand of it I'll be doing a lot more stuff with it.
I really wanted to use Lindsey's ending solo in my mashup but he starts playing a little faster and it wouldn't synch up to the end of Enchanted. but yeah, the idea did occur to me. :)
yeah, I already thought the pace of the solo would be distracting. Cool result anyway!
Betsy
02-15-2008, 11:51 AM
Upon a second and third listen, I thought it was cool how Stevie's singing...
"thought you saw something, in my eye" and in the background these dudes are going...."eyes" (pause) "eyes" (pause) "eyes" and some whoa, whoa, whoa's....
That was very clever.
Send it to a radio station and be famous! (Acutally some dude wayback when....did that to Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond when they both sang You don't Bring Me Flowers.) Then Babs and Neil get the idea to do it themselves...and the rest is comfortably buried back in the 1980's....
Sarah
02-15-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't see why the riff isn't as obvious in Bang the Drum. It sounds pretty front and center in the mix. :shrug:
The three songs are different enough... it doesn't bother me that the line is recycled.
face of glass
02-15-2008, 01:43 PM
The three songs are different enough... it doesn't bother me that the line is recycled.
Same here. I was just joking a bit with the Stephanie thing.
I think Eyes Of The World is an interesting combination of three songs: the Stephanie riff, a modified '50s boogie and Pachelbel's Canon. A classic Lindsey mash-up, in other words!
Sarah
02-15-2008, 02:04 PM
I think Eyes Of The World is an interesting combination of three songs: the Stephanie riff, a modified '50s boogie and Pachelbel's Canon. A classic Lindsey mash-up, in other words!
Bingo. I love them all, but Eyes is my definite favorite.
Villavic
02-15-2008, 09:10 PM
my favorite has always been the version they did at the Forum during the Mirage Tour. theres a lot of energy there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1siQIq6CGEg
of course! Sinece Christine is there!! though my favorite version is the album one. And of course Chris is there too .. ha haa
UndoingTheLaces
02-16-2008, 02:05 PM
Upon a second and third listen, I thought it was cool how Stevie's singing...
"thought you saw something, in my eye" and in the background these dudes are going...."eyes" (pause) "eyes" (pause) "eyes" and some whoa, whoa, whoa's....
That was very clever.
Send it to a radio station and be famous! (Acutally some dude wayback when....did that to Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond when they both sang You don't Bring Me Flowers.) Then Babs and Neil get the idea to do it themselves...and the rest is comfortably buried back in the 1980's....
Yeah, I... um... meant to do that. Really. LOL! Actually I never noticed that until you wrote that. I just liked the way the music fit together. Sometimes these things are just happy accidents.
I never knew that about "You Don't Bring Me Flowers". I just thought that's the way they recorded it. I didn't know they had done their own versions first. How cool.
blackroses
02-17-2008, 12:11 AM
I think Eyes Of The World is an interesting combination of three songs: the Stephanie riff, a modified '50s boogie and Pachelbel's Canon. A classic Lindsey mash-up, in other words!Wow, you nailed it. :thumbsup: Definitely Canon and Stephanie. They are both very obvious to me, now that it's been pointed out.
David
02-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Why don't you dig up the source of those guitar intros on "Out of the Cradle"? My guess would be one of the Italians like Albinoni or Scarlatti.
MiniLindsey
02-18-2008, 07:02 AM
Say You Will Tour version by a landslide.
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