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trackaghost
01-22-2008, 12:46 PM
What do we all think about the Oscar nominations announced today?

Best Picture:
Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood

Best Director:
Jason Reitman (Juno)
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen (No Country For Old Men)
Julian Schnabel (The Diving Bell And The Butterfly)
Paul Thomas Anderson (There Will Be Blood)
Tony Gilroy (Michael Clayton)


Best Actor:
Daniel Day-Lewis (There Will Be Blood)
George Clooney (Michael Clayton)
Johnny Depp (Sweeney Todd)
Tommy Lee Jones (In the Valley of Elah)
Viggo Mortensen (Eastern Promises)


Best Actress:
Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth: The Golden Age)
Ellen Page (Juno)
Julie Christie (Away From Her)
Laura Linney (The Savages)
Marion Cotillard (La Vie En Rose)

Best Supporting Actor:
Casey Affleck (The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford)
Hal Holbrook (Into The Wild)
Javier Bardem (No Country For Old Men)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (Charlie Wilson's War)
Tom Wilkinson (Michael Clayton)


Best Supporting Actress:
Amy Ryan (Gone Baby Gone)
Cate Blanchett (I'm Not There)
Ruby Dee (American Gangster)
Saoirse Ronan (Atonement)
Tilda Swinton (Michael Clayton)


Best Foreign Language Film:
Beaufort (Israel)
The Counterfeiters (Austria)
Katyn (Poland)
Mongol (Kazakhstan)
12 (Russia)


Best Animated Feature Film:
Persepolis
Ratatouille
Surf's Up


Best Documentary Feature:
No End In Sight
Operation Homecoming: Writing The Wartime Experience
Sicko
Taxi To The Dark Side
War/Dance


Adapted Screenplay:
Atonement
Away From Her
The Diving Bell And The Butterfly
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood


Original Screenplay:
Juno
Lars And The Real Girl
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille
The Savages


Best Music (original score):
3:10 To Yuma
Atonement
The Kite Runner
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille


Best Music (song):
Falling Slowly - Once
Happy Working Song - Enchanted
Raise It Up - August Rush
So Close - Enchanted
That's How You Know - Enchanted

GardenStateGirlie
01-22-2008, 01:14 PM
my random and somewhat uniformed predictions...

i'd love to see juno sweep but i know with no country for old men and there will be blood, it's not happening, imo. falling slowly needs to win for best song -- talk about heartbreakingly beautiful.

Best Picture:
Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood

Best Director:
Jason Reitman (Juno)
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen (No Country For Old Men)
Julian Schnabel (The Diving Bell And The Butterfly)
Paul Thomas Anderson (There Will Be Blood)
Tony Gilroy (Michael Clayton)


Best Actor:
Daniel Day-Lewis (There Will Be Blood)
George Clooney (Michael Clayton)
Johnny Depp (Sweeney Todd)
Tommy Lee Jones (In the Valley of Elah)
Viggo Mortensen (Eastern Promises)


Best Actress:
Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth: The Golden Age)
Ellen Page (Juno)
Julie Christie (Away From Her)
Laura Linney (The Savages)
Marion Cotillard (La Vie En Rose)

Best Supporting Actor:
Casey Affleck (The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford)
Hal Holbrook (Into The Wild)
Javier Bardem (No Country For Old Men)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (Charlie Wilson's War)
Tom Wilkinson (Michael Clayton)


Best Supporting Actress:
Amy Ryan (Gone Baby Gone)
Cate Blanchett (I'm Not There)
Ruby Dee (American Gangster)
Saoirse Ronan (Atonement)
Tilda Swinton (Michael Clayton)


Best Foreign Language Film:
Beaufort (Israel)
The Counterfeiters (Austria)
Katyn (Poland)
Mongol (Kazakhstan)
12 (Russia)


Best Animated Feature Film:
Persepolis
Ratatouille
Surf's Up


Best Documentary Feature:
No End In Sight
Operation Homecoming: Writing The Wartime Experience
Sicko
Taxi To The Dark Side
War/Dance


Adapted Screenplay:
Atonement
Away From Her
The Diving Bell And The Butterfly
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood


Original Screenplay:
Juno
Lars And The Real Girl
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille
The Savages


Best Music (original score):
3:10 To Yuma
Atonement
The Kite Runner
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille


Best Music (song):
Falling Slowly - Once
Happy Working Song - Enchanted
Raise It Up - August Rush
So Close - Enchanted
That's How You Know - Enchanted

danax6
01-22-2008, 03:50 PM
I really hope Marion Cotillard takes it home.

JazmenFlowers
01-22-2008, 04:52 PM
a total bore with most of the nominations really, imo. some, I'm happy about...but I couldn't really care less for the most part.

strandinthewind
01-22-2008, 04:55 PM
I really hope Marion Cotillard takes it home.

She was magnificent in that part. I love Catre B., but the movie was not that good. Julie C., was, however, great as well, but MC takes the cake for me.

mikeschmike
01-22-2008, 04:57 PM
a total bore with most of the nominations really, imo. some, I'm happy about...but I couldn't really care less for the most part.

a perfect year for a press conference in lieu of the regular song and dance!

JazmenFlowers
01-22-2008, 04:59 PM
a perfect year for a press conference in lieu of the regular song and dance!
amen.

the only one I really care about is Tilda Swinton. anytime she is nominated, I think she deserves to win.

shackin'up
01-22-2008, 06:13 PM
As long as Ratatouille wins, I'm happy.
That is actually the best film I've seen this year, so I'd vote for it as best movie overall. if it was nominated for it.

darklinensuit
01-22-2008, 06:36 PM
Well, it's official. I need to get out more these days. I have not seen any of these movies.

- Jake

Stew_Matthews
01-22-2008, 07:36 PM
I really hope Marion Cotillard takes it home.

Yes I enjoyed La Vie En Rose, it would be nice if she won.

Of the films I preferred Atonement. I thought it was a really good adaption of a really well written book.

Disappointed not to see Kite Runner included. I thought it was brave to film half of it in Dari and the rest in English. I thought that really worked. Disappointed that one significant part of dialogue was missing from the film that is key to the book but nonetheless, it was an excellent film.

strandinthewind
01-22-2008, 08:05 PM
Yes I enjoyed La Vie En Rose, it would be nice if she won.

Of the films I preferred Atonement. I thought it was a really good adaption of a really well written book.

Disappointed not to see Kite Runner included. I thought it was brave to film half of it in Dari and the rest in English. I thought that really worked. Disappointed that one significant part of dialogue was missing from the film that is key to the book but nonetheless, it was an excellent film.

I got the message of Kite Runner and I, too, appreciated the bravery you mention. But, the film was just too plodding to me. It was a good film though. On another note, it really showed what I can imagine is a very literal voew of the state of that part of the world. You've seen it. Was it accurate?

BombaySapphire3
01-23-2008, 03:20 AM
Kind of hard to predict the winners this year ..Marion Cottillard deserves it but the Academy may have some resistance as the film is in French..there is no way Depp or Clooney are going to win this year though..Daniel Day Lewis might as well get his acceptance speech prepared.

strandinthewind
01-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Kind of hard to predict the winners this year ..Marion Cottillard deserves it but the Academy may have some resistance as the film is in French..there is no way Depp or Clooney are going to win this year though..Daniel Day Lewis might as well get his acceptance speech prepared.

I have to say I agree about DDL. However, it will right the wrong caused when he was snubbed for a nomination for "Age of Innocence" and bitchslapped for "Gangs of New York" -- Adrien Brody my a$$ :mad:

Stew_Matthews
01-23-2008, 03:57 PM
I got the message of Kite Runner and I, too, appreciated the bravery you mention. But, the film was just too plodding to me. It was a good film though. On another note, it really showed what I can imagine is a very literal voew of the state of that part of the world. You've seen it. Was it accurate?

I was thinking yesterday, whether I would have liked Kite Runner as much if I hadn’t read the book first. I think I came to the conclusion that you had to have read the book first, to fill in some key details, in order to best enjoy the film. The more controversial issues were subtly nuanced, to avoid offence I suspect. Anyway that wasn’t your question:).

I haven’t spent time working in Afghanistan so I don’t have any first hand experience of whether it was a fair reflection of life there. Some of the Taliban in the film were portrayed as alcoholic, murdering, paedophiles which could be seen as being a bit subjective I guess:laugh:. There is little doubt however, that the incredibly strict application of Sharia law in that country is barbaric.

My colleagues and I who are placed in either the Middle East or Russia are sent on what I guess you’d call an awareness programme to inform us how to behave, act and dress, if we are likely to be working or living alongside citizens of that country. If we are just on a rig at sea we get flown in and out and you don’t see much other than the sea. I’m really only supposed to work either in the Arctic or at out at sea but in the last year I’ve spent my time learning how to run/manage an oil refinery and I have had to do this in the middle east. I see a number of things I don’t like but we are encouraged to respect the local people and adhere to rules. So in Iraq and Iran, I do not wear Western clothes. I wouldn’t be clean shaven. I don’t listen to music, watch TV or read magazines etc on a Friday as it would be considered by some to be disrespectful. I was in Iraq during Ramadan and we fasted in the same way that Iraqi’s did. You just have to fall into line and not draw attention to yourself. The culture is so different it is really easy to offend people and I’d like to stay alive, so I follow the company rules.

Having said that, I haven’t seen fundamentalism in the Middle East such as that portrayed in Kite Runner. I have seen it writ large in Chechnya in Russia. I spent four months there and it was hell – public lynchings – the whole lot. It is also why I only spent four months working for Shell. A tale for another day though.

The thing I really want to learn though is why both Iran and Afghanistan moved from what were pretty liberal Middle East states into what they are now. I understand the basic facts but I’d like to really understand what happened.

JazmenFlowers
01-23-2008, 06:09 PM
Well, it's official. I need to get out more these days. I have not seen any of these movies.

- Jake
don't feel bad...I haven't seen most of them

strandinthewind
01-23-2008, 08:19 PM
don't feel bad...I haven't seen most of them

Well, they just started showing talkies in Jackson :shrug:

:p

strandinthewind
01-23-2008, 08:22 PM
I was thinking yesterday, whether I would have liked Kite Runner as much if I hadn’t read the book first. I think I came to the conclusion that you had to have read the book first, to fill in some key details, in order to best enjoy the film. The more controversial issues were subtly nuanced, to avoid offence I suspect. Anyway that wasn’t your question:).

I haven’t spent time working in Afghanistan so I don’t have any first hand experience of whether it was a fair reflection of life there. Some of the Taliban in the film were portrayed as alcoholic, murdering, paedophiles which could be seen as being a bit subjective I guess:laugh:. There is little doubt however, that the incredibly strict application of Sharia law in that country is barbaric.

My colleagues and I who are placed in either the Middle East or Russia are sent on what I guess you’d call an awareness programme to inform us how to behave, act and dress, if we are likely to be working or living alongside citizens of that country. If we are just on a rig at sea we get flown in and out and you don’t see much other than the sea. I’m really only supposed to work either in the Arctic or at out at sea but in the last year I’ve spent my time learning how to run/manage an oil refinery and I have had to do this in the middle east. I see a number of things I don’t like but we are encouraged to respect the local people and adhere to rules. So in Iraq and Iran, I do not wear Western clothes. I wouldn’t be clean shaven. I don’t listen to music, watch TV or read magazines etc on a Friday as it would be considered by some to be disrespectful. I was in Iraq during Ramadan and we fasted in the same way that Iraqi’s did. You just have to fall into line and not draw attention to yourself. The culture is so different it is really easy to offend people and I’d like to stay alive, so I follow the company rules.

Having said that, I haven’t seen fundamentalism in the Middle East such as that portrayed in Kite Runner. I have seen it writ large in Chechnya in Russia. I spent four months there and it was hell – public lynchings – the whole lot. It is also why I only spent four months working for Shell. A tale for another day though.

The thing I really want to learn though is why both Iran and Afghanistan moved from what were pretty liberal Middle East states into what they are now. I understand the basic facts but I’d like to really understand what happened.

Yea - I thought the whole (SPOILER)








bad military Islamic man is a child rapist was trite, esp. considering it summoned all the repressed homosexuality hinted at earlier in the film.

I did love the scenes when they were flying kites as kids. Stunning visuals IMO.

In the end, I kept thinking their was some scene cut from it that would have made it flow better.