View Full Version : The Best Live Rhiannon
trotter
01-17-2008, 12:05 PM
Hello Iam ne here i thought we could look at our fav performaces live of Rhiannon
Here Mine: From Live in Los Angeles, CA 8-29-77 http://www.mediafire.com/?01s1chfng4o
Melack
01-17-2008, 12:36 PM
Hi, everyone! I'm new here at the ledge, so this is my first post. I'm a little newbie when it comes to Fleetwood Mac, I discovered them for about 6 months ago and I haven't got all the records yet.
Anyway the best version of Rhiannon that I've heard so far is from the Midnight Special.
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wildheart048
01-17-2008, 04:47 PM
Yup, Midnight Special would get my vote, as well...
bucklind17
01-17-2008, 07:38 PM
The Rosebud Documentary one is pretty kickass. That was the best era to hear "Rhiannon" live, methinks.
SortaSavageLike
01-17-2008, 07:58 PM
Here's another really good one: (video quality sucks)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yz5h3g-_N9w
trotter
01-17-2008, 08:01 PM
Here's another really good one: (video quality sucks)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yz5h3g-_N9w
Thats A Brill performace
Where Does The Video Come is it a pro shot & what the date of performace?
michelle2677
01-17-2008, 08:26 PM
nope. still rosebud for me
Sanne2
01-18-2008, 08:25 AM
Rosebud.
Midnight Special Rhiannon is too "clean" for me.
Sarah
01-18-2008, 12:09 PM
Rosebud for me also.
Oh how I wish they would speed it up again... just once for old times' sake, even. The slow Rhiannons make me sad. :distress:
Phoenix
01-18-2008, 12:21 PM
WELCOME! To those who are new!:wavey: Im always up for the topic of Rhiannon. i think it could be separated into the coolest or best rhiannon of the 70s, 80s the 90's and the nows. I love the song in anny incarnation.
but definatly:
rosebud,
Japan77,
mirrage video,
and if i could mash up the begining of the dance slow piano intro with the version on crystal visions.
Cant wait for the Soundstage Rhiannon. Black wings and top hat. ahhhh:thumbsup:
David
01-18-2008, 01:04 PM
Here's another really good one: (video quality sucks)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yz5h3g-_N9w
When is somebody going to circulate a clean copy of that show? We need that video & the Landover video from the following year in immaculate copies (like the 2nd US Festival & Landover 1983)
vivfox
01-18-2008, 08:08 PM
I have 3 top favorite Live Rhiannon's. I love them equally and they are May 14, 1980 Chicago, Illionis, June 13, 1980 in Rotterdam, Holland and June 22, 1980 in London, England! I've yet to hear another live one better than these three. Just my opinion.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd169/cielosharon/10nzwcm.jpg
Matthew
01-19-2008, 05:20 AM
I have three favourite Rhiannon performance. I like that from MIrage video and The Dance video. But I really love the BTM version too, when she sings "all the saaaame all the saaaame..." Good quality is for example from Manchaster (Stop Main Road).
SRhiannon
01-19-2008, 10:40 PM
I have to say my favorite Rhiannon was the HBO special way back when. It was just Stevie and Roy (at the piano) to begin with. It was the first time I saw her start out slow and I couldn't believe it! Then she did a kick butt version ~ truly "Stevie" style!
gldstwmn
01-20-2008, 08:31 PM
I have a lot of favorites but here's a particularly good one:
Rhiannon live in Nashville, 5/21/77
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W3PJ9QQV
gldstwmn
01-20-2008, 09:50 PM
Rhiannon live HBO Special:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WV7J6UD8
jannieC
01-20-2008, 09:57 PM
Here's another really good one: (video quality sucks)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yz5h3g-_N9w
I've never seen this-wow. I didn't start seeing Stevie live until Rock a Little, and didn't see FM live until SYW. I can't even imagine what it was like to see FM performances like that.
LiamMcConville
01-20-2008, 11:11 PM
This RAL performance gets my vote, incredible vocals and wails, twirling, cape, the works:
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(Closer towards the end, watch how the security guards runs behind the stage to keep up with Stevie.)
DavidMn
01-21-2008, 03:53 AM
I've always been partial to the Mobile Alabama version from 8-11-80. I know it may not have the all out kick ass vocals, but there's something about that version that has always sent chills up my spine.
jannieC
01-21-2008, 09:02 AM
This RAL performance gets my vote, incredible vocals and wails, twirling, cape, the works:
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(Closer towards the end, watch how the security guards runs behind the stage to keep up with Stevie.)
Watching that reminds me of how obsessed with her I was at that time. I was 17-18 and totally enthralled. Sadly, I have been comparing her live performances ever since. I know that many believe her RAL performances were awful, but the ones I saw were totally inspired and full of what made me love Stevie to begin with.
David
01-21-2008, 12:56 PM
Watching that reminds me of how obsessed with her I was at that time. I was 17-18 and totally enthralled. Sadly, I have been comparing her live performances ever since. I know that many believe her RAL performances were awful, but the ones I saw were totally inspired and full of what made me love Stevie to begin with.Musically, the only problem with the tour was the drummer, Marotta, who struck me (pardon the pun) as snare-heavy. (Mick Fleetwood did every show with Stevie out here, & I kept hoping he'd kick Marotta off & slip behind the kit). Otherwise, everything clicked beautifully -- even the backup vox team, who looked like very expensive escorts. It was all very L.A., as they say nowadays.
My favorite Rhiannon is still the one on the white album. Apart from its other beauties of sound & style, I hear no specific musical antecedents; it seems to have sprung fully formed from the band's collective subconscious knowledge of the cosmos.
gretchen
01-21-2008, 01:30 PM
I just love The Dance version. It has this pull that is so magical to me.
petep9000
01-21-2008, 05:39 PM
What I love about the whole tour, and you can even hear it on this clip, are the vocal spasms that she'd bleat out. Yes, technically it's not good singing (tearing out from her throat instead of pushing up from her diaphragm) but it was heavily resonant. It was very heavy, and she just doesn't put it out there anymore.
Listen at points 04:18, 04:25, 06:34 and 06:51 for the husky, shuddery, vocal freak-outs that she'd pepper the verses with. I don't know, I just felt it more. Felt like she was actually trying to bring us into her little mental world at the time. The new Vegas-type Stevie performances are fine for some, I guess. What the audiences today hear is Rhiannon. There's no suprise, and no one walks away from the show saying "gee, ya know she missed part of the verse" or "gee, she added a lot of 'wells' that I don't remember hearing on the CD". I just wonder if anyone is ever again going to feel Rhiannon.
P.S check out Eleschia Wright. What a hoot! Now THERE was a little soul injection into Stevie's band. Even icy Sharon was trying to keep up.
jannieC
01-21-2008, 06:38 PM
What I love about the whole tour, and you can even hear it on this clip, are the vocal spasms that she'd bleat out. Yes, technically it's not good singing (tearing out from her throat instead of pushing up from her diaphragm) but it was heavily resonant. It was very heavy, and she just doesn't put it out there anymore.
Listen at points 04:18, 04:25, 06:34 and 06:51 for the husky, shuddery, vocal freak-outs that she'd pepper the verses with. I don't know, I just felt it more. Felt like she was actually trying to bring us into her little mental world at the time. The new Vegas-type Stevie performances are fine for some, I guess. What the audiences today hear is Rhiannon. There's no suprise, and no one walks away from the show saying "gee, ya know she missed part of the verse" or "gee, she added a lot of 'wells' that I don't remember hearing on the CD". I just wonder if anyone is ever again going to feel Rhiannon.
P.S check out Eleschia Wright. What a hoot! Now THERE was a little soul injection into Stevie's band. Even icy Sharon was trying to keep up.
I 100% agree with everything you've posted here. I've always said that while I'm happy Stevie was able to free herself from drugs, she sacrificed a lot of her dramatic flair and intensity for her sobriety. Back then, it seemed as though she was so INTO everything. The last few shows I've been to (well, since TISL, if I'm being truthful), she seems NOT to be very emotionally present. I think she sounds great, there's just almost no spontaneity anymore. I'm sure that people will want to give examples of recent Stevie fabulousness, and I agree that there have been some performances where the old Stevie pops out, but for the most part, it's a different show now. I hope I don't sound ungrateful- I love Stevie now just as much as I ever have. It's just a new, calmer sound/show.
petep9000
01-21-2008, 09:32 PM
I don't want to hijack this thread, but this is sort of related. I apologize in advance if we've had multiple threads discussing this: has anyone ever positively ID'd the performance of 'Rhiannon' from the 'Tusk' tour where instead of instead of singing "Dreams unwind, love's a state of mind..." Stevie chanted "Is this what you want from me...?" before ripping into a mind-searing vocal freakout?
I dunno. I mean, Mick says it happened in his first book, anyway. I'd be curious to know if this was true, and if there are any recordings out there in the ether that someone might want to share with us.
gldstwmn
01-21-2008, 11:32 PM
I don't want to hijack this thread, but this is sort of related. I apologize in advance if we've had multiple threads discussing this: has anyone ever positively ID'd the performance of 'Rhiannon' from the 'Tusk' tour where instead of instead of singing "Dreams unwind, love's a state of mind..." Stevie chanted "Is this what you want from me...?" before ripping into a mind-searing vocal freakout?
I dunno. I mean, Mick says it happened in his first book, anyway. I'd be curious to know if this was true, and if there are any recordings out there in the ether that someone might want to share with us.
Oh yes, it's true. Now I have to remember which boot that is from.
gldstwmn
01-22-2008, 12:18 AM
"Is this what you want?"
Rhiannon Mobile, Alabama 11/8/80
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82CIEQ31
David
01-22-2008, 11:50 AM
It's a little ad lib that you can hear on a lot of Rhiannons around that time. Listen to the tape of the 1st night of the Hollywood Bowl two-nighter -- it's there, too.
Just like nowadays she does that stupid "And you still cry out for her/Don't leave me, don't leave me/Nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww" :rolleyes: drawing it out as if each syllable were portentous.
nailatixela
01-22-2008, 05:21 PM
"Is this what you want?"
Rhiannon Mobile, Alabama 11/8/80
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82CIEQ31
I don't see anywhere to click to download the song on that "megaupload" site. :shrug:
darklinensuit
01-22-2008, 07:09 PM
Rosebud is my favorite, but she looks amazing in the Midnight Special. I also like the "Live" album one. I hate "The Dance" version - it drags, IMO.
- Jake
trotter
01-22-2008, 08:47 PM
What does everyone think of the one i posted i think it has best ending of Rhiannon ever!!!
David
01-22-2008, 08:57 PM
What does everyone think of the one i posted i think it has best ending of Rhiannon ever!!!Great Rhiannon! But how do you know it was Aug. 29? ChiliD & his friend taped that, & he can't remember which night of a multinight stand at the Forum it was.
MacMan
01-22-2008, 08:59 PM
I don't see anywhere to click to download the song on that "megaupload" site. :shrug:
Put in the 3 letters it asks for at the top... Scroll down and let it count down the 40 seconds or so. and then click on the "free download" button when that's done - and the download should initiate.
Villavic
01-24-2008, 05:55 PM
I do like the Dance version. It's sober, elegant, I like the arrangemens.
Of cour the 70s or 80s perormances are far more intense, energic. I like the Mirager the LIVE versions.. they sound cool and Stevie gives everyting toer public.
Bumperke
01-25-2008, 04:59 AM
To be honest, i don't like Rhainnon at all.
The song sucks.
Stevie wrote a bunch of good (and even brilliant) songs, but this is not one of them.
Sorry,....:sorry::sorry:
Will
petep9000
01-25-2008, 09:57 AM
To be honest, i don't like Rhainnon at all.
The song sucks.
Stevie wrote a bunch of good (and even brilliant) songs, but this is not one of them.
Sorry,....:sorry::sorry:
Will
Yes, in some ways it doesn't hold up to 'Affairs of The Heart'.
michelle2677
02-07-2008, 10:54 PM
I don't see anywhere to click to download the song on that "megaupload" site. :shrug:
towards the top there is a place to type letters in a box. then there is "download" next to it.
thanks chris for that.
here is one i've had forever (hell...even posted it on the white album tour i'm sure :laugh: ) but i just really listened to this and oh my dear god.
before the "dreams unwind, love's a state of mind" i love when she does the "ooooohhoohh's"
a little guitar squeak but we'll forgive lindsey for that :laugh:
rhiannon-live in passiac, NJ 1975
http://www.mediafire.com/?0pp51litxmy
vivfox
02-07-2008, 11:14 PM
a little guitar squeak but we'll forgive lindsey for that :laugh:
rhiannon-live in passiac, NJ 1975
http://www.mediafire.com/?0pp51litxmy
Michelle I think that was feedback from the amps. That happened a lot in the 70's. Nowadays with our high effing tech we don't have to hear that anymore.
michelle2677
02-07-2008, 11:32 PM
Michelle I think that was feedback from the amps. That happened a lot in the 70's. Nowadays with our high effing tech we don't have to hear that anymore.
aaaah yes lol forgive me, lindsey :angel: hehh
blackroses
02-16-2008, 04:44 AM
Just like nowadays she does that stupid "And you still cry out for her/Don't leave me, don't leave me/Nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww" :rolleyes: drawing it out as if each syllable were portentous.I have to say that I completely agree with that, David. I don't like that "still cry out/don't leave me" thing she does these days, but some people like it....just a different personal tastes. I really miss Rhiannon the way she performed it back in the day. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels that way. I personally never cared for the style she performed it in for her solo performances either. The FM performances are the only ones for me. I also like the Rhiannon in the Mirage video, but that is an acquired taste that most people would not share with me. I hated it at first, but it has grown on me. She looks really rough, and her voice is shot, but after she twirls back onto the stage, she comes to life with some really dramatic stuff, like "Baby, you don't change, and I don't change, and you don't change....Rhiannon". Riveting! And just Lindsey's guitar work alone in that one makes it worth loving.
I also like the Midnight Special, Mobile AL, the 78' video posted in this thread, and the version that trotter posted is superb. But one of my all time favorites is from early in the While Album era...a true moment in history. It's almost identical to the audio version that Michelle posted. They were new and slightly unpolished...not visually perfected yet, and there was bad mic feedback. But the difference in this one and all other versions I have ever heard is Lindsey's undulating guitar work that starts at about 4:37 minutes. I've never heard him do it quite that way in any other version. I wish he had kept it going longer and continued to build on it...simply mesmerizing. She totally expends herself toward the end. What a gift she had. Here it is:
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UndoingTheLaces
02-16-2008, 02:11 PM
I think my favorite will always be the one from the Live album. I also really love the Buckingham Nicks bootleg version where she goes "don't play it too fast". LOL! I just recently got the book Triad (Amazon, for one dollar, can you believe it?) and am reading it now. Hard to imagine this little book was the start of a huge phenomenon.
michelle2677
02-16-2008, 02:37 PM
I have to say that I completely agree with that, David. I don't like that "still cry out/don't leave me" thing she does these days, but some people like it....just a different personal tastes. I really miss Rhiannon the way she performed it back in the day. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels that way. I personally never cared for the style she performed it in for her solo performances either. The FM performances are the only ones for me. I also like the Rhiannon in the Mirage video, but that is an acquired taste that most people would not share with me. I hated it at first, but it has grown on me. She looks really rough, and her voice is shot, but after she twirls back onto the stage, she comes to life with some really dramatic stuff, like "Baby, you don't change, and I don't change, and you don't change....Rhiannon". Riveting! And just Lindsey's guitar work alone in that one makes it worth loving.
I also like the Midnight Special, Mobile AL, the 78' video posted in this thread, and the version that trotter posted is superb. But one of my all time favorites is from early in the While Album era...a true moment in history. It's almost identical to the audio version that Michelle posted. They were new and slightly unpolished...not visually perfected yet, and there was bad mic feedback. But the difference in this one and all other versions I have ever heard is Lindsey's undulating guitar work that starts at about 4:37 minutes. I've never heard him do it quite that way in any other version. I wish he had kept it going longer and continued to build on it...simply mesmerizing. She totally expends herself toward the end. What a gift she had. Here it is:
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oh yes. is that largo? landover? I can't keep them straight. I love this video/audio and the 4:37 mark too. not only is lindsey working that guitar, but stevie's working that chiffon like no other.
i always call this the "orgasm rhiannon" because when she starts at the end, that's what she looks like. it's a little more tame than say, rosebud, but it is so sensual and devine. love it.
and as people were saying about the "don't leave me noooooooowww" i don't like or dislike it, but i don't want her to remove the "weeeellll i don't think you do!" that she's added in the more recent rhiannons.
blackroses
02-16-2008, 09:54 PM
oh yes. is that largo? landover? I can't keep them straight. I love this video/audio and the 4:37 mark too. not only is lindsey working that guitar, but stevie's working that chiffon like no other.I wish I knew which performance this was from. I've always wondered. Hopefully someone that knows will tell us. Yes, Stevie is definitely working that more simple, less stylish chiffon (less than what she wore later). It's so charming to see her turn even that into magic.
i always call this the "orgasm rhiannon" because when she starts at the end, that's what she looks like. it's a little more tame than say, rosebud, but it is so sensual and devine. love it.Exactly. Sensual and divine is a good description. I think that is exactly the reason it's my favorite. It has an entrancing effect when it slows down it's pace. It makes me want to go into a meditative state, like chill out music. Then it slowly builds again into an explosion.
and as people were saying about the "don't leave me noooooooowww" i don't like or dislike it, but i don't want her to remove the "weeeellll i don't think you do!" that she's added in the more recent rhiannons.Some of her performances now are really great and have their own appeal. I certainly can't fault her for any of them. I think it's just a matter of individual preferences. I find The Dance to be very enjoyable, but if I had my choice, I'd prefer the old Rhiannon.
michelle2677
02-16-2008, 10:09 PM
I wish I knew which performance this was from. I've always wondered. Hopefully someone that knows will tell us. Yes, Stevie is definitely working that more simple, less stylish chiffon (less than what she wore later). It's so charming to see her turn even that into magic.
i'm pretty sure it's largo. that's what it says on youtube, anyway. and I was thinking it was between largo/landover anyway. and yes, exactly.
Exactly. Sensual and divine is a good description. I think that is exactly the reason it's my favorite. It has an entrancing effect when it slows down it's pace. It makes me want to go into a meditative state, like chill out music. Then it slowly builds again into an explosion.
exactly. need i say more?
Some of her performances now are really great and have their own appeal. I certainly can't fault her for any of them. I think it's just a matter of individual preferences. I find The Dance to be very enjoyable, but if I had my choice, I'd prefer the old Rhiannon.
oh, nothing will ever take the place of the old style rhiannon. mama was magnificent at soundstage, but rhiannon from back in the day was something to see.
blackroses
02-16-2008, 10:18 PM
I think my favorite will always be the one from the Live album. I also really love the Buckingham Nicks bootleg version where she goes "don't play it too fast". LOL! I just recently got the book Triad (Amazon, for one dollar, can you believe it?) and am reading it now. Hard to imagine this little book was the start of a huge phenomenon.Yes, I've heard that Buckingham Nicks version. It's uniquely different. It's funny that after she says "don't play it too fast", they played it really fast anyway. I think that was typical of the BN versions....she sung them with a different rhythm in the words too. But I think the BN versions had much less of a mystical feel, which is what I love most about Rhiannon. Maybe not the best song she's ever written (although that's always a matter of personal taste), but I love that mystical place it takes me to.
How great that you found the book. Let us know what you think of it after you read it!
blackroses
02-16-2008, 10:25 PM
i'm pretty sure it's largo. that's what it says on youtube, anyway. and I was thinking it was between largo/landover anyway.Does it say that? Geez, I need to learn to pay more attention to details. :rolleyes: But the information posted on YouTube has sometimes been wrong too, so who knows?
oh, nothing will ever take the place of the old style rhiannon. mama was magnificent at soundstage, but rhiannon from back in the day was something to see.I think you and I are on the same wavelength, Michelle. ;)
David
02-18-2008, 11:19 AM
I wish I knew which performance this was from. I've always wondered. Hopefully someone that knows will tell us.Landover/Largo -- the same venue or city is meant. In Fleetwood Mac itineraries, it almost always refers to the Capitol Centre, where FM must have been an opener in 1975. Some fans from Washington once told me that "Landover" is the more accurate label for the Capitol Centre, but a lot of people still call it "Largo."
Mywyldhrt
02-18-2008, 01:35 PM
]I think my favorite will always be the one from the Live album. [/B] I also really love the Buckingham Nicks bootleg version where she goes "don't play it too fast". LOL! I just recently got the book Triad (Amazon, for one dollar, can you believe it?) and am reading it now. Hard to imagine this little book was the start of a huge phenomenon.
:blob1: Thank You!! you are the only one out of the three boards I am on that has said that-have you been pummeled for it as I have??? :laugh:
Dr.Brown
02-18-2008, 04:42 PM
Another vote for the BN "don't play it too fast" Rhiannon. I'm pretty much burned out on all the other versions but I can listen to this one anytime. It's so fun and full of raw energy. If only they still performed like this. :distress:
goldie
02-18-2008, 07:28 PM
I actually really like the version from the FM live album. Esp. the bass part.
michelle2677
02-18-2008, 07:29 PM
Landover/Largo -- the same venue or city is meant. In Fleetwood Mac itineraries, it almost always refers to the Capitol Centre, where FM must have been an opener in 1975. Some fans from Washington once told me that "Landover" is the more accurate label for the Capitol Centre, but a lot of people still call it "Largo."
THANK YOU for clearing this up!! i've always wondered this :o
blackroses
02-19-2008, 08:27 AM
Landover/Largo -- the same venue or city is meant. In Fleetwood Mac itineraries, it almost always refers to the Capitol Centre, where FM must have been an opener in 1975. Some fans from Washington once told me that "Landover" is the more accurate label for the Capitol Centre, but a lot of people still call it "Largo."Yeah, thanks David. You sure are a wealth of information. It seems like you are always there to answer "who, what, when, where" questions. :D You're super!
David
02-19-2008, 04:17 PM
Yeah, thanks David. You sure are a wealth of information. It seems like you are always there to answer "who, what, when, where" questions. :D You're super!Well thanks! but....you know....sometimes I just make up ****....& we all just run with it. :nod: :o
Janet
02-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Thank you for that gem. It's been a long time since I have that.
I think of little Stevie going onto American Idol and how they would have loved her...her voice really was so powerful.
I can't believe how long ago this was...but still so powerful. My favorite Rhiannon was always the Mirage concert version...it's so potent.
stevierocks87
02-29-2008, 01:58 PM
Does anyone have the Tango tour version of Rhiannon they could post? I think I used to have it one my old computer but not this one. I would really appreciate it ;)
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