Dead = Sad [Archive]

mylittledemon

12-05-2007, 03:46 PM

I'm gonna cry.
It's been more dead than usual here.
I miss the way it used to be.
Where are the trolls? Where are the heated political debates? Where is everyone at yanking eachothers chain??
I miss this place.
Talk to me, dammit!!!

Dont be sad, get glad....! With...Gladlock?

Ermm...well anyway. Its that crazy time of year where everyone is running around like headless chickens i suppose. I find on my two days off during the week I'm doing nearly as much work as the other 5. I've gotten all my Christmas shopping done though! I spent more this year than I have in the last 3 combined. Ugh. Damn retailers.

sara1998

12-05-2007, 03:49 PM

Dont be sad, get glad....! With...Gladlock?

Ermm...well anyway. Its that crazy time of year where everyone is running around like headless chickens i suppose. I find on my two days off during the week I'm doing nearly as much work as the other 5. I've gotten all my Christmas shopping done though! I spent more this year than I have in the last 3 combined. Ugh. Damn retailers.

Yeah, suppose you're right. I'm almost done with shopping. I'm only buying for my girls this year, so it's been a pretty relaxed year for me. Thank God.

mylittledemon

12-05-2007, 03:57 PM

Yeah I bought only for my family...cards for everyone else! I battled all odds and managed to get a wii for my sister (my brother and I went half-sies)....I had NO IDEA they were in such demand. I mean, people waiting in lines. The system has been out for a year now! Insanity.

I can see, after all these years, how this time of year turned my father into Clark Griswold! hahaha

I'm gonna cry.
It's been more dead than usual here.
I miss the way it used to be.
Where are the trolls? Where are the heated political debates? Where is everyone at yanking eachothers chain??
I miss this place.
Talk to me, dammit!!!

Yeah, suppose you're right. I'm almost done with shopping. I'm only buying for my girls this year, so it's been a pretty relaxed year for me. Thank God.

Musicman408

12-05-2007, 07:38 PM

Well ever since school has started, I haven't been able to be on here as much.:(

JWS

12-05-2007, 07:56 PM

Seven Wonders is back in business.:shrug:

SteveMacD

12-05-2007, 08:01 PM

For me, it's a matter of finding other things, namely hockey and Robert Pollard (Guided By Voices), that are here now. I actually get to hang out with these people on a regular basis. Hockey season last almost six months, and Bob has a new album coming out every few months. It's current, it's in the moment. I'm always looking forward to something that actually happens again and again.

It's everything that isn't happening with Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac fandom is a bit more abstract. I just find it hard to be sentimental over something that will never be what it once was even if the various principle members all got back together (regardless of incarnation, BTW). Fleetwood Mac is done. I've listened to all there is to hear, I've seen all there is to see, I've read (almost) everything there is to read (unless John, Christine, or whoever wants to write another book). I'm still a fan, but I really don't have the interest that I once had. The fact that they did NOTHING for their 40th anniversary tells me they don't care anymore. Why should I?

Plus, all of the dramatic crap that goes on with Fleetwood Mac, all of the healing/growing psychobabble, Stevie's drama queen-isms, etc., have all worn mightily thin on me. I don't care. I just want to see a rock show. Shut up and play, and if you're going to talk, make it entertaining. I'm a social worker. The last thing I want is to pay to watch somebody have a therapy session at a rock concert.

To give you an example of the difference of mentality, ten years ago, Fleetwood Mac basically copied the Eagles' formula for a reunion. Which is lame, if you think about it. To spend the better part of six to seven years highlighting the differences between the bands and to then suddenly copy them? Doesn't make sense. They should have axed the backing vocalists and extra musicians and just gone out as a five piece (not even Ray Lindsey). And, instead of giving a bunch of psychobabble, give a speech that would be worthy of being remembered! Something like Robert Pollard (who has put out two full lenght albums just of his stage banter). That speech would have been more like this: "A few years ago, the Eagles got back together. I guess Don and Glen are buddy-buddy again. F**K the Eagles. How is it possible for a band to suck so badly when it starts off with Bernie Leadon and ends with Joe Walsh? See, they had potential and blew it. We did a lot of blow and exceeded our potential. That's why we were all f**king each other. Hell, we felt bad for them and let them f**k Stevie, but even that didn't help. So, tonight, we're going to show you what a real rock concert is like. Oh, and while we don't openly hate each other anymore, we're not like best buddies, either. We're a rock band. We rock. As you can see, we didn't bring anybody else to the party. Why would we add anything what is already the greatest band in the world?" If they started acting like real rock musicians, then I might be more interested.

michelle2677

12-05-2007, 08:19 PM

michelle2677

12-05-2007, 08:23 PM

Seven Wonders is back in business.:shrug:

um. there WAS a ledge before seven wonders came along. and it was doing just fine before seven wonders went down.

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 08:27 PM

I agree with all of that, but:

well, tbh, I think most people are still skeptic about the 1-strike-and-you're-out routine. That's problem number one.

that's the big reason. You're just so worried about getting banned that you just don't feel like saying anything at all :shrug:

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 08:33 PM

Seven Wonders is back in business.:shrug:

7W going down did nothing positive for the Ledge.

danax6

12-05-2007, 08:36 PM

I agree with all of that, but:

that's the big reason. You're just so worried about getting banned that you just don't feel like saying anything at all :shrug:Bingo. I don't even bother anymore when I have to censor everything I say. :shrug: I've discovered I can have much more entertaining discussions away from the Ledge.

michelle2677

12-05-2007, 08:37 PM

I agree with all of that, but:

that's the big reason. You're just so worried about getting banned that you just don't feel like saying anything at all :shrug:

I agree. and i see the mod's point of view too. i mean...i'm sure they're thinking.."well, if we lift the one strike rule, then it's going to be a madhouse. why would they want it lifted if they weren't wanting to cause mayhem?" ( :laugh: ) but it's not really about that. I know the rules are in place, but they have been followed so haphazardly, that no one really knows what's wrong and what's okay. so i just say whatever. sorry if it offends someone. if it does, tell me and I'll take it down, or ban me. whatever :cool: I don't need this stress in my life :laugh:

danax6

12-05-2007, 08:44 PM

Seven Wonders is back in business.:shrug:Yes, summer vacation is over. All the teens are busy writing poems to Sharon Celani for English class.

:rolleyes:

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 08:47 PM

Bingo. I don't even bother anymore when I have to censor everything I say. :shrug: I've discovered I can have much more entertaining discussions away from the Ledge.

Exactly :nod:

I agree. and i see the mod's point of view too. i mean...i'm sure they're thinking.."well, if we lift the one strike rule, then it's going to be a madhouse. why would they want it lifted if they weren't wanting to cause mayhem?" ( :laugh: ) but it's not really about that. I know the rules are in place, but they have been followed so haphazardly, that no one really knows what's wrong and what's okay. so i just say whatever. sorry if it offends someone. if it does, tell me and I'll take it down, or ban me. whatever :cool: I don't need this stress in my life :laugh:

True, but you can't have an exciting forum without at least a touch of controversy, and all controversy has been beaten out of this place. Also, you're exactly right, there are lots of rules but there has been no consistency in appyling them, which makes people edgy about saying anything that might be construed as out-of-turn. And btw, you're banned :mad:

:laugh:

danax6

12-05-2007, 08:53 PM

True, but you can't have an exciting forum without at least a touch of controversy, and all controversy has been beaten out of this place.This place was built on it. It had the most diverse group of people and for the longest time it worked, despite whatever battles were fought.

It'd be really sad if this place turned into another 7W, where it's all butterflies and "I love yous" and ~magickal stuff~ and "moooooom, he said a bad word!" and "stevie's my goddess!!!11".

Surely that's not the intended path, right?

michelle2677

12-05-2007, 08:54 PM

Exactly :nod:

True, but you can't have an exciting forum without at least a touch of controversy, and all controversy has been beaten out of this place. Also, you're exactly right, there are lots of rules but there has been no consistency in appyling them, which makes people edgy about saying anything that might be construed as out-of-turn. And btw, you're banned :mad:

:laugh:

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeee.....

and :mad: :mad: :mad: fine. i don't need you :snibble:

and it's "BANT!" jackass. or "BAN~D!" :mad:

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 09:09 PM

This place was built on it. It had the most diverse group of people and for the longest time it worked, despite whatever battles were fought.

It'd be really sad if this place turned into another 7W, where it's all butterflies and "I love yous" and ~magickal stuff~ and "moooooom, he said a bad word!" and "stevie's my goddess!!!11".

Surely that's not the intended path, right?

If this is the intended path, can we please be informed in advance? So the sane among us can make sure we are far away? :laugh:

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeee.....

and :mad: :mad: :mad: fine. i don't need you :snibble:

and it's "BANT!" jackass. or "BAN~D!" :mad:

you don't? :laugh: Aaawwww.. you dooooo :laugh: Don't deny it :p

And that's true... but I was being all formal :mad:

David

12-05-2007, 09:25 PM

Bingo. I don't even bother anymore when I have to censor everything I say. :shrug: I've discovered I can have much more entertaining discussions away from the Ledge.

Why didn't you want to join my mailing list? Or will you? We could have marvelous chats there. I invited Daniel, too, but he hasn't got back to me. :mad:

Another reason for nobody's being around might be the continual technical problems & instability of the server that supports this board. I'm past thinking it's a problem with my browser. It's been just awful. I would say the board "hangs" 75 percent of the time, & out-&-out stalls 10 to 20 percent of the time. Aren't you guys having technical problems with reading & posting?

markolas

12-05-2007, 09:26 PM

problem number two is I feel so many people have been burned by other ledgies, that everyone is on the defense. I think everyone pretty well knows what i'm talking about.

Oh, I think you and carrie and a few others know better than most.

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 09:29 PM

Oh, I think you and carrie and a few others know better than most.

What do you mean?

markolas

12-05-2007, 09:35 PM

What do you mean?

I honestly don't know where to start, and it's probably not worth it to dredge it up at this point. What's done is done (at least I hope it's done). Suffice it to say, carrie & friends have gone a long way toward chasing quite a few people off the Ledge.

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 09:38 PM

I honestly don't know where to start, and it's probably not worth it to dredge it up at this point. What's done is done (at least I hope it's done). Suffice it to say, carrie & friends have gone a long way toward chasing quite a few people off the Ledge.

Well, you've dredged it up yourself, and since you brought it up, I was wondering if you'd like to elaborate on it for those of us who don't know. Or whether you just want to make your snide comment and leave it there.

michelle2677

12-05-2007, 09:45 PM

Oh, I think you and carrie and a few others know better than most.

it appears that way.

I honestly don't know where to start, and it's probably not worth it to dredge it up at this point. What's done is done (at least I hope it's done). Suffice it to say, carrie & friends have gone a long way toward chasing quite a few people off the Ledge.

oh cry me a river. there were way worse things that drove people away from the ledge than "carrie and friends"

markolas

12-05-2007, 09:50 PM

oh cry me a river. there were way worse things that drove people away from the ledge than "carrie and friends"

Like what, pray tell? I'm not saying she and her little group did it single-handedly - the Ledge had been going downhill for some time before she jumped into the mix - but she certainly seems to have driven one hell of a nail into the coffin.

markolas

12-05-2007, 09:53 PM

Well, you've dredged it up yourself, and since you brought it up, I was wondering if you'd like to elaborate on it for those of us who don't know. Or whether you just want to make your snide comment and leave it there.

No, michelle is the one who dredged it up. I just followed her lead, rightly or wrongly. :)

buckymcnix

12-05-2007, 09:56 PM

"carrie and friends"?

that's pretty damn offensive to me -
but maybe cos i consider myself a friend of carrie -
but more likely because it's a bunch of crap

:mad:

i know you have no love lost for me either, but seriously - off the high horse bub, they need it over at the christian coalition.

bretonbanquet

12-05-2007, 09:57 PM

No, michelle is the one who dredged it up. I just followed her lead, rightly or wrongly. :)

Nope, no, it was definitely you who brought names into it. If you think "Carrie and friends" contributed to driving people off the Ledge, then it's only fair to explain why you think that. Or it really wasn't sensible to make it personal, was it?

carrie721

12-05-2007, 10:08 PM

Like what, pray tell? I'm not saying she and her little group did it single-handedly - the Ledge had been going downhill for some time before she jumped into the mix - but she certainly seems to have driven one hell of a nail into the coffin.

bite me, meatwad. i haven't even been here in weeks.

on edit: if you're not interested in dredging up old business, maybe you should keep your whiny yap shut and watch who you're name checking. if i really am the "big bad carrie" who broke the ledge you should know that i'm not gonna let a comment like that slide by without responding.

strandinthewind

12-05-2007, 10:15 PM

I honestly don't know where to start, and it's probably not worth it to dredge it up at this point. What's done is done (at least I hope it's done). Suffice it to say, carrie & friends have gone a long way toward chasing quite a few people off the Ledge.

I have to agree to some degree (don't fall over dead :laugh: )

To some (not all and not really me) -- the non FM related conversations that went on essentially after the last SN tour were not interesting. But, they were the only things going on at the time. Then came the whole horsemanity thing, which was funny, but rude and hurtful to some people. Then came the bloodletting of many long time members -- based on in the opinion of many, if not most and certainly me, a rather ridiculous one strike rule with no appeal. This certainly let a bad taste in my mouth and I certainly thought about leaving for good.

But, even having said all that, I think the real reason for the decline is there is nothing significant going on in Stevieland and/or FM. Let either of those two entities release a new record and/or hit the road again and things will liven up but quick and despite the shiitte in the first paragraph.

buckymcnix

12-05-2007, 10:40 PM

To some (not all and not really me) -- the non FM related conversations that went on essentially after the last SN tour were not interesting. But, they were the only things going on at the time. .

so that sounds like the people who tried to keep the place going (while fleetwood mac weren't doing anything ) are to blame because they weren't interesting to everyone. that doesn't really make sense to me - if something/someone aren't interesting to me then i should start something that would be interesting to me and hopefully others and not blame the folks who are participating in something that they obviously find interesting.

Then came the whole horsemanity thing, which was funny, but rude and hurtful to some people. Then came the bloodletting of many long time members -- based on in the opinion of many, if not most and certainly me, a rather ridiculous one strike rule with no appeal. This certainly let a bad taste in my mouth and I certainly thought about leaving for good. .

i am glad you didn't leave and i agree with this timeline but i would submit that you left off a couple other factors. with the one strike rule in place you never know what can get one bant (nickel to jazzy) but here goes:

ethan made quite a splash when he got here and there was a large contingency of folks who didn't think that the mods did enough to persuade him to try to keep some of his more annoying habits (multiple threads on the same topic etc) in check (:wavey:). others didn't find ethan nearly as annoying as others and said "put him on ignore if you don't like him".

i know of longtime members who left here cos of the moderating at the time.
and they are still waiting for the change over of the mods to be completed.

But, even having said all that, I think the real reason for the decline is there is nothing significant going on in Stevieland and/or FM. Let either of those two entities release a new record and/or hit the road again and things will liven up but quick and despite the shiitte in the first paragraph.

i also agree with this -

and i am not attacking what you said, just discussing ok?
being one of "carrie's friends" i want to make sure my aims are clear. :laugh:

strandinthewind

12-05-2007, 10:51 PM

^^^^

I know you are not attacking me, but thanks for saying that :cool:

I, too, like Carrie and her posse, whatever and whomever that includes. I am just saying that to given the feast of FM related activity since 1997, the last year has been drab. LB's tour was mildly interesting, but it failed to get the people not that interested in him interested in him, which IMO is sad because it was a great tour. So, the filler conversation has not been to everyone's liking. After all, the Ledge first is a FM related site. So, when that conv. goes, the chit chat board is not for everyone.

In the end, I think FM is fading away and ergo, so must this place.

As an aside, your covers helped keep this joint a hoppin for awhile :nod:

buckymcnix

12-05-2007, 11:03 PM

^^^^

I know you are not attacking me, but thanks for saying that :cool::
cool

^^^^I, too, like Carrie and her posse, whatever and whomever that includes. I am just saying that to goven the feast of FM related activity since 1997, the last year has been drab. LB's tour was mildly interesting, but it failed to get the people not that interested in him interested in him, which IMO is sad because it was a great tour. So, the filler conversation has not been to everyone's liking. After all, the Ledge first is a FM related site. So, when that conv. goes, the chit chat board is not for everyone.:

i don't disagree i would just paraphrase-up the same advice that was given out earlier - 'if you don't like something/someone, then ignore it'

^^^^
In the end, I think FM is fading away and ergo, so must this place.:

yes, it will come and go in fits and starts with their declining output. but for many, the chitchat area will be reason to check back here and keep in touch with ledgie friends.
That all the topics aren't to everyone's liking should just be a given.

^^^^
As an aside, your covers helped keep this joint a hoppin for awhile :nod:

til i got pissed like a little baby and deleted them all -
but thanks - that is a sweet thing to say

strandinthewind

12-05-2007, 11:07 PM

. . . i don't disagree i would just paraphrase-up the same advice that was given out earlier - 'if you don't like something/someone, then ignore it'

True and I am a BIG fan of that idea :laugh: - but when that is all or significantly most of what is here, then people not interested in it or people repulsed by it are going to leave. Thus, my conclusion.

til i got pissed like a little baby and deleted them all -
but thanks - that is a sweet thing to say

Oh the horsemanity :wavey:

SteveMacD

12-05-2007, 11:16 PM

Honestly, I quit caring after the 7 Wonders drama ended up on this board.

strandinthewind

12-05-2007, 11:28 PM

Honestly, I quit caring after the 7 Wonders drama ended up on this board.

I have to say, I sucessfully ignored it. I do not remember even commenting on it. I will say though, that fortunately, it was mostly confined to two or three titular threads. But, and back to my point, when that essestially is all that is going on to any significant degree and you are ignoring it, this place becomes somewhat irrelevant to your world.

Sarah

12-05-2007, 11:39 PM

let the record show that i don't give 2 ****s about 7 wonders or the people on it. even if the conversation is dominated by it and i participate. it's just talk. it doesn't mean it matters.

also, i haven't been posting because i've been busy. and, while i still check here almost daily... there haven't been any threads that have motivated me to say anything. i mean, i guess i just don't feel like being told that i'm a cold-hearted bitch again. this week. :rolleyes:

and carrie is rad.

buckymcnix

12-06-2007, 12:19 AM

let the record show that i don't give 2 ****s about 7 wonders or the people on it. even if the conversation is dominated by it and i participate. it's just talk. it doesn't mean it matters. .

wow - what a cold hearted bitch.

lol - :xoxo:
i don't think you are cold hearted -
direct ? sure but it's endearing to some:wavey:

also, i haven't been posting because i've been busy. and, while i still check here almost daily... there haven't been any threads that have motivated me to say anything. i mean, i guess i just don't feel like being told that i'm a cold-hearted bitch again. this week. :rolleyes:
.

no time for ping pong either then?
you should be practicing an hour a day.:rolleyes:

and carrie is rad.

did you see the 2008 "Carrie" calendar yet?:] my personal fave is february's S&M outfit in honor of valentine's day.

two or three titular threads. .

he said 'titular' :D

But, and back to my point, when that essestially is all that is going on to any significant degree and you are ignoring it, this place becomes somewhat irrelevant to your world.

yea - let's go back to blaming the band for not enough output:D

maybe that will get them moving?

Ghost_Tracker

12-06-2007, 12:56 AM

I'm gonna cry.
It's been more dead than usual here.
I miss the way it used to be.
Where are the trolls? Where are the heated political debates? Where is everyone at yanking eachothers chain??
I miss this place.
Talk to me, dammit!!!

I dunno. Me, I've been too busy watching our mighty exalted leader George W. Bush's wonderful efforts as the best President ever of These United States, and learning about Stevie's sordid past which is completely all Lindsey's fault and not at all Stevie's, and wondering how Fleetwood Mac ever got by with a drummer like Mick Fleetwood and a bass guitarist like John McVie.

Good 'nuff? :wavey: :lol:

danax6

12-06-2007, 07:23 AM

Why didn't you want to join my mailing list?
I received an invitation?

sara1998

12-06-2007, 08:17 AM

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 09:46 AM

. . . yea - let's go back to blaming the band for not enough output:D

maybe that will get them moving?

Well, at they age, public prodding may not be enough. Perhaps some stewed prunes could be the right goad.

Sarah

12-06-2007, 10:47 AM

and wondering how Fleetwood Mac ever got by with a drummer like Mick Fleetwood and a bass guitarist like John McVie.

Dear God. I hope you are joking. Those are fighting words.

jannieC

12-06-2007, 11:10 AM

I've been here for almost 7 years now, and I love most of the people here, especially the one's who have been here as long as I have. I sometimes wish I could find a board, much like chit chat, that is busy. It's been a very long time since I've visited the FM or Stevie side of the boards, honestly because I'm bored with them. Still love 'em, but bored. And I've always liked chit chat, but it's been boring here for months now. Plus, it's hard to start in on a new board as a newbie... I haven't done that in... well, 7 years!

I think maybe message boards come and go with activity? I would hope that the slowness here (in chit chat) involves members being busy over the holidays.

Maria, I think the world of you and I'm so glad that we met through this board. I'd be happy to engage in some interesting discussions- I just haven't had the time to start anything new (just finished the semester- only one more to go!),

skcin

12-06-2007, 11:30 AM

I honestly don't know where to start, and it's probably not worth it to dredge it up at this point. What's done is done (at least I hope it's done). Suffice it to say, carrie & friends have gone a long way toward chasing quite a few people off the Ledge.

Carrie & Friends?!?! WTF? I thought it was Paula & Cronies?!?! :distress: Have I been dethroned?

Like what, pray tell?

I'm sure your negativity couldn't have helped.

To some (not all and not really me) -- the non FM related conversations that went on essentially after the last SN tour were not interesting. But, they were the only things going on at the time. Then came the whole horsemanity thing, which was funny, but rude and hurtful to some people. Then came the bloodletting of many long time members -- based on in the opinion of many, if not most and certainly me, a rather ridiculous one strike rule with no appeal. This certainly let a bad taste in my mouth and I certainly thought about leaving for good.

But, even having said all that, I think the real reason for the decline is there is nothing significant going on in Stevieland and/or FM. Let either of those two entities release a new record and/or hit the road again and things will liven up but quick and despite the shiitte in the first paragraph.

I have to agree AND disagree. :wavey: Nothing NEW has happened in the past 4 years except Under the Skin. But until a few months ago, we've always talked about other stuff - news, current events, funny stuff, whatever. Chit Chat was always the busiest forum, which obviously has nothing to do with the band or its members.

It's just...different now. I think a lot of it has to do with the one strike rule, so ITA on that point. Many frequent posters are banned & others just don't bother coming around because it's so dead here. The horse's ass thing was the silliest incident ever, IMO, and many people were turned off by the fact that it became such a huge issue.

Chit Chat on The Ledge has become nothing but "happy birthday so & so" and picture threads. Sad - I used to enjoy fighting, I mean, debating with some of you. :D I tried a while ago to post a bunch of new threads to get people talking, but it went nowhere. So. What can you do?

danax6

12-06-2007, 11:39 AM

Carrie & Friends?!?! WTF? I thought it was Paula & Cronies?!?! :distress: Have I been dethroned?Does that mean I have to change hats now? :distress:

carrie721

12-06-2007, 11:46 AM

Carrie & Friends?!?! WTF? I thought it was Paula & Cronies?!?! :distress: Have I been dethroned?

move over, bitch.

Does that mean I have to change hats now? :distress:

if you're still wearing a crony hat you are not welcome in the carrie & friends group :mad:

chiliD

12-06-2007, 11:53 AM

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 11:55 AM

. . . I have to agree AND disagree. :wavey: . . . .

GET OFF THE FENCE HOOKAH!

:p:p:p

danax6

12-06-2007, 11:57 AM

if you're still wearing a crony hat you are not welcome in the carrie & friends group :mad:i don't want to be in your stupid group. you killed the ledge. :mad:

danax6

12-06-2007, 11:59 AM

When one of the remaining band members actually DOES something, this place'll liven up. Since 1995, this place has been like that...during long band droughts, this place drys up like an African savannah watering hole...then when the band decides to do something, it's like a monsoon of activity. We're on a big ebb right now.Even a great new Lindsey album and subsequent tour or a lame Stevie greatest hits album and an even lamer tour couldn't get it to move. So I sure hope a lame Fleetwood Mac tour next year will.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 12:00 PM

chiliD

12-06-2007, 12:21 PM

Even a great new Lindsey album and subsequent tour or a lame Stevie greatest hits album and an even lamer tour couldn't get it to move. So I sure hope a lame Fleetwood Mac tour next year will.

Considering in the last 25 of the 40 year history of the band, they've spent more time NOT being Fleetwood Mac than they have been being Fleetwood Mac. So, in reality, the band doesn't care about being a band, then why should we keep investing so much time in them? :shrug:

In thinking about it, I'VE seemingly invested more time in Fleetwood Mac than THEY have. That revelation kind of pisses me off.

SteveMacD

12-06-2007, 12:42 PM

Considering in the last 25 of the 40 year history of the band, they've spent more time NOT being Fleetwood Mac than they have been being Fleetwood Mac. So, in reality, the band doesn't care about being a band, then why should we keep investing so much time in them? :shrug:

In thinking about it, I'VE seemingly invested more time in Fleetwood Mac than THEY have. That revelation kind of pisses me off.

Welcome to the dark side. :D

chiliD

12-06-2007, 12:51 PM

camchristo

12-06-2007, 01:05 PM

Well, IMO, a lot of it has to do with the one strike rule. And the inconsistent moderating. And the subsequent bannings. It was a lot more interesting around here when people felt free to debate, disagree, and sometimes be nasty to each other:eek:.

Face it, people have different opinions, likes and dislikes. People have had varying experiences and lived unique lives. For everyone to agree on things is unnatural and boring.

I don't see what's wrong with people arguing or fighting with each other. So what? It's a message board. If you don't like it, or get offended, turn off the computer, come back later, whatever.

The topics in chit chat are listed in bold. If the topic doesn't appeal to you, don't open the thread. Pretty simple. Not everything is for everyone. Thank God. It'd be a pretty bleak existence if everyone was a bunch of clones.

There are people on here who annoy the **** out of me. There are people I find self-righteous. So? Why can't I tell them how I feel? I'm sure there are many people who don't like me, find me annoying, etc. They should be able to tell me. But everyone is afraid to say much of anything. In the real world we can tell people off all we want, or even punch them in the face. On a message board, the worst that could happen is that someone gets their feelings hurt. Grow up. Suck it up. Go cry and eat a gallon of ice cream to make yourself feel better. Or fight back.

It's more engaging when people can debate and disagree without having to worry about getting bant.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 01:08 PM

Even a great new Lindsey album and subsequent tour or a lame Stevie greatest hits album and an even lamer tour couldn't get it to move. So I sure hope a lame Fleetwood Mac tour next year will.

A "great" new Lindsey album -- that is subjective. I thought UTS was medicore at best. The tour was, however, great for what it was. But, if you were looking for a rocking LB (amd many were) - you were left wanting due to the acoustic nature of the set.

I thought La Nicks' GH record was cool in that she gave the voiceovers on her videos, included the symphony stuff, etc. Yes, a new rocord would have been great though. As for the tour, she got great reviews from the press and fans. So, what was lame about that, other than no new stuff was done :shrug:

Get off the Debbie Downer train :cool:

trackaghost

12-06-2007, 01:12 PM

A "great" new Lindsey album -- that is subjective. I thought UTS was medicore at best.

You're funny :laugh:

danax6

12-06-2007, 01:29 PM

I guess I should have seen this coming.

A "great" new Lindsey album -- that is subjective. I thought UTS was medicore at best.You and maybe a handful of other people. The album was good. Period.

I thought La Nicks' GH record was cool in that she gave the voiceovers on her videos, included the symphony stuff, etc.Whatever. Three greatest hits collections when you only have six solo records is LAME. Even Stevie thought it lame. That was all the record company.

As for the tour, she got great reviews from the press and fans. So, what was lame about that, other than no new stuff was done :shrug:You just answered your own question there. I've got about ten video bootlegs from the last tour. Total snoozefest. If you've seen one, you've seen them all. And those great reviews? Meh. I'd say they were mixed at best.

Get off the Debbie Downer train :cool:Hey, that was an expensive ticket. I don't plan to step off any time soon! Unless Fleetwood Mac makes an enticing offer.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 01:30 PM

. . . It's more engaging when people can debate and disagree without having to worry about getting bant.

I am usure if people felt they could not debate people. I certainly did not. I think what you had was people like Tower deliberately baiting the mods. by deliberately cursing at and provoking people. I love Tower, think he is great, and miss him. I also think banning him was ridiculous given his contribution to this board over the years and my personal friendship with him. But, he openly violated the rules, ridiculous though they were :shrug: So, I have to conclude that legitimate debate, as opposed to mocking/baiting/rudeness, was not stifled.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 01:44 PM

I guess I should have seen this coming.

Nice editing :wavey:

You and maybe a handful of other people. The album was good. Period.

So, you say. I know many who did not care for it and certainly its sales, or lack thereof, support that :shrug: But, you go on thinking everyone but a handful of people thought it was great (perhaps on the order of Michell's "Ladies of the Canyon") if that floats your boat.

On edit: I think it is okay not to like something LB did, esp. when he was pushing the envelope (kudos for that), as he did on this record. I still think he is a genius, etc. Interestingly, I faulted La Nicks for the mediocre stuff on TISL, which I thought has moments of brilliance, but was a 3/5 overall, mostly due to her refusal to use her voice in any meaningful way, though she does on a few songs.

. . . Even Stevie thought it lame. That was all the record company.

Where exactly did Stevie say it was lame? Please provide a cite to that. But, just to help you out, here's a quote from her indicating she did not think it was lame.

When she wasn’t visiting troops in recent months, Nicks was putting the finishing touches on a new combo CD/DVD, Reflections—The Best of Stevie Nicks, which includes 18 tracks, four of them live tracks, along with a 20-page booklet and a DVD containing all 12 videos she made. Those who purchase Reflections, which hit stores earlier this month, can also enjoy galleries of all of Nicks’ photo shoots through the years, and watch the dozen videos while listening to an audio track of her commentary.

“This is so cool. I’m so proud of it,” Nicks gushed over the retrospective CD/DVD that Warner Bros. Records put together. “This will be, I think, kind of a groundbreaking package.”

http://www.whats-on.com/ViewFeature.aspx?show=123

And those great reviews? Meh. I'd say they were mixed at best.

I suggest you re read them.

In the end, you get a rise out of bashing her. So be it. On edit - that was harsh - I take it back.

gldstwmn

12-06-2007, 01:54 PM

I'm gonna cry.
It's been more dead than usual here.
I miss the way it used to be.
Where are the trolls? Where are the heated political debates? Where is everyone at yanking eachothers chain??
I miss this place.
Talk to me, dammit!!!

For a minute I thought someone had passed. Way to scare the crap out of me. :lol:
This year has put quite the beat down on me. All I can say is, all I know is that it's a cycle. And cycles come and go. (Tip of the hat to Lindsey).

carrie721

12-06-2007, 01:55 PM

In the end, you get a rise out of bashing her. So be it.

you're talking to vanessa. nothing could be further from the truth :laugh:

if you were talking to me, it would be a different matter :wavey:

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 01:58 PM

. . . if you were talking to me, it would be a different matter :wavey:

When I speak to you, you'll know it Missy - now put back on the collar and get in your corner :p

danax6

12-06-2007, 02:00 PM

Nice editing :wavey:Didn't want to start that debate also. ;)

So, you say. I know many who did not care for it and certainly its sales, or lack thereof, support that :shrug: But, you go on thinking everyone but a handful of people thought it was great (perhaps on the order of Michell's "Ladies of the Canyon") if that floats your boat. Obviously you don't even understand what the album, or Lindsey, is about if you bring up sales. :shrug: I was just saying that based on my observations, there aren't many people that found the album to be bad or mediocre. And I'm talking about the hardcore fans that post here, which is exactly who I was referring to in my original post. I don't care about Shirley down the street, she doesn't post on The Ledge.

Where exactly did Stevie say it was lame? Please provide a cite to that. But, just to help you out, here's a quote from her indicating she did not think it was lame.OMG. Stevie will say Bush is cool if that is what people expect of her. I remember her initial comments regarding the TimeSpace album, and how she didn't want to put out a greatest hits album. She might not have used the word "LAME", but that's what it came down to. Those are all things record companies expect you to do, I don't think any artist ever jumps at the opportunity. I wasn't saying the Crystal Visions collection itself was lame, just the idea of another greatest hits collection in general.

I suggest you re read them.Oh, where is that scathing review someone posted around the start of the tour? I'll post it when I find it. Sure, there were positive reviews, but I wouldn't call them all raving, and there definitely some less than positive ones as well.

In the end, you get a rise out of bashing her. So be it.Yeah, I should really hand in my fan card. Come on, Jason, you know me better than that.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 02:00 PM

When I speak to you, you'll know it Missy - now put back on the collar and get in your corner :p

dude.

i am never the one wearing the collar. or perhaps you've forgotten? :shrug: :eek:

skcin

12-06-2007, 02:01 PM

There are people on here who annoy the **** out of me. There are people I find self-righteous. So? Why can't I tell them how I feel? I'm sure there are many people who don't like me, find me annoying, etc. They should be able to tell me. But everyone is afraid to say much of anything. In the real world we can tell people off all we want, or even punch them in the face. On a message board, the worst that could happen is that someone gets their feelings hurt. Grow up. Suck it up. Go cry and eat a gallon of ice cream to make yourself feel better. Or fight back.

It's more engaging when people can debate and disagree without having to worry about getting bant.

OMG, where the hell do you live that you can go around punching people in the face? :shocked:

I want to move there.

A "great" new Lindsey album -- that is subjective. I thought UTS was medicore at best. The tour was, however, great for what it was. But, if you were looking for a rocking LB (amd many were) - you were left wanting due to the acoustic nature of the set.

I thought La Nicks' GH record was cool in that she gave the voiceovers on her videos, included the symphony stuff, etc. Yes, a new rocord would have been great though. As for the tour, she got great reviews from the press and fans. So, what was lame about that, other than no new move there.stuff was done :shrug:

Get off the Debbie Downer train :cool:

Although I didn't love every song on it, I think UTS is truly a great album musically. :shrug:

Stevie's GH was OK, but nothing most of us hadn't seen or heard before. Meh. Could have been better. I'm not trying to be negative, just truthful. I'm glad I got to see the tour, mainly because I finally got front row & some fantastic pics. :D If not for that, I wouldn't have been too thrilled. I am happier that I got to see her do something totally different - that trip to the Petty shows in Berkeley was priceless, even if I was in the back of the house. :nod:

I am usure if people felt they could not debate people. I certainly did not. I think what you had was people like Tower deliberately baiting the mods. by deliberately cursing at and provoking people. I love Tower, think he is great, and miss him. I also think banning him was ridiculous given his contribution to this board over the years and my personal friendship with him. But, he openly violated the rules, ridiculous though they were :shrug: So, I have to conclude that legitimate debate, as opposed to mocking/baiting/rudeness, was not stifled.

OK, so tell me why nobody debates ANYTHING anymore? Why don't we discuss politics or health care or the war? Sure, Mary's gone and Towie & RickyRy too. But I'm still here, you're here, Carrie's here, Amber's here, Jannie's here, Vanessa's here, Maria, Sparky, Suze, Sarah...... so what's up? There's always something to talk about, so why do many of the people that weren't banned choose not to bother anymore?

trackaghost

12-06-2007, 02:02 PM

So, you say. I know many who did not care for it and certainly its sales, or lack thereof, support that :shrug: But, you go on thinking everyone but a handful of people thought it was great (perhaps on the order of Michell's "Ladies of the Canyon") if that floats your boat.

:lol: Hilarious. Weird how it made Rolling Stone, Uncut Magazine's and other respected music magazine's top 50 albums of 2006. You think others get off on bashing Stevie, well you seem to enjoy putting Lindsey down too. Love the up to date music reference btw.

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:04 PM

For a minute I thought someone had passed. Way to scare the crap out of me. :lol:
This year has put quite the beat down on me. All I can say is, all I know is that it's a cycle. And cycles come and go. (Tip of the hat to Lindsey).

Yeah, after I read the thread title, I kinda chuckled... It was really kind of misleading. Didn't mean to scare the crap outta ya... :o

I don't know what you meant by this year has put the beat down on you, but I know this past year has been an emotional - and expensive year for me. Financially, my up cycle is waning.... it's all down from here for a while... (damn new car...)

gldstwmn

12-06-2007, 02:10 PM

Yeah, after I read the thread title, I kinda chuckled... It was really kind of misleading. Didn't mean to scare the crap outta ya... :o

I don't know what you meant by this year has put the beat down on you,

I'll talk to you in person next time I see you. :wavey:

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 02:10 PM

. . . Obviously you don't even understand what the album, or Lindsey, is about if you bring up sales. :shrug: . . . .

I think people miscontrue LB as some sort of artist who eschews popularity. The evidence is solidly in my favor. Who can blame him? He lives a high life and has to pay for it :shrug: In the end, he wants to be different, but always runs back to The Mac to get the popularity injection - sticks the camera right into his arm - so to speak.

I also think that anyone who thinks that LB did not secretly want UTS to be a hugely popular record does not understand him. The chip on his genius of a shoulder is large IMO.

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:11 PM

I'll talk to you in person next time I see you. :wavey:

That'll be a while... :laugh:
I'd still like to come out there for vacation sometime. I think it'll be Cali again next year though. :(

carrie721

12-06-2007, 02:13 PM

OMG, where the hell do you live that you can go around punching people in the face? :shocked:

dude. indiana. 'nuff said.

I want to move there.

no you don't.

:laugh:

danax6

12-06-2007, 02:14 PM

I also think that anyone who thinks that LB did not secretly want UTS to be a hugely popular record does not understand him. The chip on his genius of a shoulder is large IMO.Secretly people want a lot of things. I secretly want to screw George Clooney's brains out, but I realize that is not a realistic goal. So I'll settle for the guy next door and be very happy with that.

xxxmx

12-06-2007, 02:15 PM

i stopped reading most of the posts a while ago. nothing particularly interesting.

also, my ignore list makes it burdensome to read much more than the first page. :wavey:

chilid, ITA with your observation about seemingly investing more in something than those involved. i have very little to add to the other forums these days. everything has been covered and recovered. we need to start a forum for recovering FM fans. "my name is mariel, and i am a recovering fanatic."

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:16 PM

dude. indiana. 'nuff said.

no you don't.

:laugh:

WTF??? :lol:
don't drag us into this.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 02:17 PM

:lol: Hilarious. Weird how it made Rolling Stone, Uncut Magazine's and other respected music magazine's top 50 albums of 2006. You think others get off on bashing Stevie, well you seem to enjoy putting Lindsey down too. Love the up to date music reference btw.

On the contrary, I give to La Nicks as well. In fact, I call it as I see it. I think her use of her voice is mostly pathetic at best. I also think she comes across as lazy at times. Having said that, she is still wildly popular and says she is artistically content, so she must be doing something right in her book if those are her goals :shrug:

As for UTS - it may have been brilliant to some of the critics, but it was not well received and I, and many I know, did not care for the sound of it. If you liked it, great for you. I did not like it, though it had its moments of greatness. I just do not like that new voice he uses. Then again, I think he rather lost his larger voice years ago - parts of The Dance were just painful for me to watch; if others like it, so be it. Lest you think I am biased, La Nicks' voice pains me as well. My beef with her ius she still has her voice, but shows it rarely, R&R and CD are good examples of showing it. The current Dreams and Rhiannon are not - I am horrified by them at times.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 02:19 PM

WTF??? :lol:
don't drag us into this.

you love it :D

skcin

12-06-2007, 02:20 PM

I am usure if people felt they could not debate people. I certainly did not. I think what you had was people like Tower deliberately baiting the mods. by deliberately cursing at and provoking people. I love Tower, think he is great, and miss him. I also think banning him was ridiculous given his contribution to this board over the years and my personal friendship with him. But, he openly violated the rules, ridiculous though they were :shrug: So, I have to conclude that legitimate debate, as opposed to mocking/baiting/rudeness, was not stifled.

I just re-read this & realized something else - I'm talking about now, and you're referring to the past - if people were put off by Tower's baiting, or Mary's one-sided rants, or Amber's novels :laugh: or my endless threads about food, etc. WHY DIDN'T THEY START POSTING WHEN THESE PEOPLE STOPPED? I mean, Amber & me are still here occasionally, but for the most part, it's a wide open field for people to post. So go ahead. What's stopping them?

People have bitched that they felt left out or ignored, or that that "Paula's cronies" or "Carrie & friends" or the gays or the chiffonheads (or whatever "clique" they cited) kept them from feeling comfortable participating.

So what the f*ck is the problem now? For the most part, these "cliques" are gone, or have been laying low, for months now. People got what they wanted. So. I'm waiting. POST SOMETHING! :mad:

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 02:20 PM

dude.

i am never the one wearing the collar. or perhaps you've forgotten? :shrug: :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/untitled.jpg

:angel::angel:

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 02:23 PM

Secretly people want a lot of things. I secretly want to screw George Clooney's brains out, but I realize that is not a realistic goal. So I'll settle for the guy next door and be very happy with that.

You just said LB setteled by releasing UTS because he, the artist, could not get what he wanted - massive popularity :eek:

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:23 PM

you love it :D

yeah I do... at least I don't live in... Ohio....

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 02:26 PM

. . . "my name is mariel, and i am a recovering fanatic."

But, you have great rack :shrug:

Thanks for the birthday candles BTW :angel:

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:26 PM

So what the f*ck is the problem now? For the most part, these "cliques" are gone, or have been laying low, for months now. People got what they wanted. So. I'm waiting. POST SOMETHING! :mad:
This thread is the most action the ledge has seen in a while... I hope it lasts. You and I've bitched about this for a while. You know, I'm not a cronie, a gay, a friend, or a chiffonhead, but I've always fit in here somewhere... some people are just overly sensitive.

Go ahead Carrie... waiting on your smart ass reply... :lol:

skcin

12-06-2007, 02:27 PM

yeah I do... at least I don't live in... Ohio....

Or Kentucky. :cool:

Or West Virginia. I miss my little french fry.

danax6

12-06-2007, 02:27 PM

You just said LB setteled by releasing UTS because he, the artist, could not get what he wanted - massive popularity :eek:Hm, no, not really. What I was trying to say is that it wasn't his intent in the first place. However much he would secretly want mass adolation (and really, I don't think that's the case), he didn't set out for it. He did exactly what he wanted with what's available to him and is very happy about that. By his own admission, I should add.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 02:27 PM

So what the f*ck is the problem now? For the most part, these "cliques" are gone, or have been laying low, for months now. People got what they wanted. So. I'm waiting. POST SOMETHING! :mad:

word on that mother****ing bird. until somebody texted me last night to tell me i had been brought up in this thread, i hadn't even posted since 11/12. surely all the poor people who felt downtrodden and ignored by our "clique" had enough time to recover and start posting about more interesting topics?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/untitled.jpg

:angel::angel:

jesus, how much weight have you lost? :eek:

yeah I do... at least I don't live in... Ohio....

dude. we shouldn't be fighting. we have a common enemy, after all :distress:

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 02:29 PM

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:30 PM

Or Kentucky. :cool:

dude. we shouldn't be fighting. we have a common enemy, after all :distress:

I think we all do. Where the **** is she anyway?

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 02:30 PM

I honestly don't know where to start, and it's probably not worth it to dredge it up at this point. What's done is done (at least I hope it's done). Suffice it to say, carrie & friends have gone a long way toward chasing quite a few people off the Ledge.

HA! I would think Carrie would've expected that comment from me. *wink*

If you want the truth, I've never felt ill towards anyone here. Its kinda like brothers and sisters that dont get along.

Sure, Liam gets on my nerves a lot, but then we can have civil posting between one another too. A few other people have gotten hot under the collar because of things I've said (or vice versa), and we've had our bouts. But I dont lose sleep over it. The intent (at least on my end) is never to offend, but just to get another point of view into the mix. We're ALL right in our own view you know?

Resorting to name calling has become the norm here and that's what I've grown tired of. It's like "oh I dont agree with you, you're a pretentious twit!" I would certainly never say anything like that to anyone's face, let alone in this place.

But, I can still come here, and have interesting conversation. I dont feel we have to dislike one another just because we think differently about important issues. We can spat, and have our little tiffs, and then we're right back to square one (like brothers and sisters that hate each other--haha)...we love Fleetwood Mac...which is what brought us all here in the first place.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 02:33 PM

I think we all do. Where the **** is she anyway?

probably scraping the plaque off some hillbilly's last remaining tooth.

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:33 PM

probably scraping the plaque off some hillbilly's last remaining tooth.

LMAO!!!
Seriously. I'm cracking up.

David

12-06-2007, 02:36 PM

Hm, no, not really. What I was trying to say is that it wasn't his intent in the first place. However much he would secretly want mass adolation (and really, I don't think that's the case), he didn't set out for it. He did exactly what he wanted with what's available to him and is very happy about that. By his own admission, I should add.
Lindsey should do more of what Stevie always did: collaborate with big names. If he works with Jack Black on the next one, his fans & the Black fans will buy his dickybird.

If LB hasn't got used to selling 50,000 units by now, he's in for a rough ride ahead into Old Age Canyon or Has-Been Butte or even the Valley of Geriatric Dementia.

I'm digging this thread! People are letting the tiniest tips of their rage & frustration show, & soon they will be letting it all hang out & we will have ACTIVITY once again on the Ledge. But we will still be doing battle with the server, which should have the marrow leached out of it to make soup with.

chiliD

12-06-2007, 02:39 PM

Resorting to name calling has become the norm here and that's what I've grown tired of. It's like "oh I dont agree with you, you're a pretentious twit!" I would certainly never say anything like that to anyone's face, let alone in this place.

One of the funniest all-time moments on SNL was when Dan Ackroyd said to Jane Curtin:

"Jane, you ignorant slut...."
:laugh::laugh:

Sarah

12-06-2007, 02:40 PM

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough until I gain the ability to pluck them out of my skull and bowl them across the floor.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 02:42 PM

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough until I gain the ability to pluck them out of my skull and bowl them across the floor.

omg.

i am BAWLING with laughter.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

you cold-hearted bitch.

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 02:43 PM

One of the funniest all-time moments on SNL was when Dan Ackroyd said to Jane Curtin:

"Jane, you ignorant slut...."
:laugh::laugh:

Yeah. I'll give you that. But, it was in jest! Or was it? Hmmm.

Sarah

12-06-2007, 02:47 PM

omg.

i am BAWLING with laughter.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

you cold-hearted bitch.

you know its true.

everything i do.

i do it for you.

danax6

12-06-2007, 02:47 PM

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough until I gain the ability to pluck them out of my skull and bowl them across the floor.Want to borrow my eyes? They're already on the floor. :wavey:

skcin

12-06-2007, 02:49 PM

I agree. Sadly, the majority of the people are not interested or have been banned.

BINGO. The people everyone complained about are gone & now this place is dead. Great. :rolleyes:

probably scraping the plaque off some hillbilly's last remaining tooth.

*snort*

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 02:50 PM

i mean, i guess i just don't feel like being told that i'm a cold-hearted bitch again. this week. :rolleyes:.

I dont think I can roll MY eyes hard enough. I never called you that in truth. Period. Get over yourself.

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 02:52 PM

probably scraping the plaque off some hillbilly's last remaining tooth.

hahaha...but...they dont HAVE teeth up there!

sara1998

12-06-2007, 02:53 PM

Okay, well, you guys keep on bitching and joking, and see if you can keep this thread interesting... (meaning deleted). I have to go. I'm at home from work, and I don't really want the kids to know, so I have to leave now before they get off the bus!

buckymcnix

12-06-2007, 02:58 PM

Okay, well, you guys keep on bitching and joking, and see if you can keep this thread interesting... (meaning deleted). !

lol
maria's the new ledgie ****-stirrer. :thumbsup:

i never saw that one coming. :xoxo:

michelle2677

12-06-2007, 03:03 PM

I just re-read this & realized something else - I'm talking about now, and you're referring to the past - if people were put off by Tower's baiting, or Mary's one-sided rants, or Amber's novels :laugh: or my endless threads about food, etc. WHY DIDN'T THEY START POSTING WHEN THESE PEOPLE STOPPED? I mean, Amber & me are still here occasionally, but for the most part, it's a wide open field for people to post. So go ahead. What's stopping them?

People have bitched that they felt left out or ignored, or that that "Paula's cronies" or "Carrie & friends" or the gays or the chiffonheads (or whatever "clique" they cited) kept them from feeling comfortable participating.

So what the f*ck is the problem now? For the most part, these "cliques" are gone, or have been laying low, for months now. People got what they wanted. So. I'm waiting. POST SOMETHING! :mad:

exaaaaaaaaaaaacccttllly. this is what I wanted to say but couldn't figure out how to do it. thank you.

Or Kentucky. :cool:

Or West Virginia. I miss my little french fry.
bitch.

you got to it before i did.

probably scraping the plaque off some hillbilly's last remaining tooth.

I'm done with your mother now. you can come pick her up.

regarding the name calling. it's just like with anything else. there are problems that are way below the surface. maybe someone IS an ignorant slut. But you keep that inside of you until it comes to blows. so everything you've been wanting to say for 6 months comes out.

I can't take it anymore.

carrie. You're an ignorant slut.

there. I feel much better now.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 03:03 PM

. . . which should have the marrow leached out of it to make soup with.

I actually have a set of 12 (or is it 16) marrow spoons to serve with Ossobuco :eek:

camchristo

12-06-2007, 03:04 PM

OMG, where the hell do you live that you can go around punching people in the face? :shocked:

I want to move there.

I never said I wouldn't get in trouble for doing it - but the option is still there. :lol:

OK, so tell me why nobody debates ANYTHING anymore? Why don't we discuss politics or health care or the war? Sure, Mary's gone and Towie & RickyRy too. But I'm still here, you're here, Carrie's here, Amber's here, Jannie's here, Vanessa's here, Maria, Sparky, Suze, Sarah...... so what's up? There's always something to talk about, so why do many of the people that weren't banned choose not to bother anymore?

WORD.

dude. indiana. 'nuff said.

no you don't.

:laugh:

Bitch. At least in Indiana we just throw a punch. In Kentucky, they purposely try to knock out teeth when throwing punches so they can carry on their toothless notoriety.

camchristo

12-06-2007, 03:10 PM

Sarah

12-06-2007, 03:18 PM

Get over yourself.

Get over myself? Go to hell. :rolleyes:

takenbythesky

12-06-2007, 03:25 PM

You're funny :laugh:
Not funny - just honest. Although I liked the concept of Buckingham acoustic, the execution ended up disappointing and melodically unmemorable half of the time. I'll air the (unpopular?) opinion that Lindsey's golden ear for production has been somewhat tarnished for a while now. The echo effect combined with the vocal layering just didn't create a pleasing sonic space IMO. However, I give him major props for holding the artistic trump card of FM, as you said, and releasing the album he wanted without endless studio tinkering or concessions made to the record label. That, and the songs I had sonic qualms with cleaned up nicely onstage.

:lol: Hilarious. Weird how it made Rolling Stone, Uncut Magazine's and other respected music magazine's top 50 albums of 2006.
I'd argue UTS wasn't his best work and that some of the reviews I read seemed more in the vein of giving an oft-neglected, underrated visionary his due after all these years. Ditto for many reviews of Stevie's shows, although the praise certainly reads more forced in her case.

Love the up to date music reference btw.
It was clear to me what he meant - a handful of people were hailing UTS as a masterwork like another masterwork in LOTC. With all due respect to Mr. Strand's youthful countenance, having had a couple siblings in his age orbit who were reasonably sophisticated etc. makes me feel the release date of Joni's LP is pretty irrelevant in the comparison. :shrug:

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 03:26 PM

Get over myself? Go to hell. :rolleyes:

I'll see you there. *wink*

Sarah

12-06-2007, 03:27 PM

I'll see you there. *wink*

I'll be the favorite with the cold bottle of water. ;)

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 03:28 PM

I'll be the favorite with the cold bottle of water. ;)

the Devil's own eh?

Sarah

12-06-2007, 03:31 PM

the Devil's own eh?

It has been said a time or two before.

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 03:33 PM

It has been said a time or two before.

I wouldnt know. Do ya think the devil would share his water with you?

carrie721

12-06-2007, 03:33 PM

Not funny - just honest.

i don't think you're a very reliable source when it comes to honesty, are you?

what a long-winded, overwrought and BORING little treatise that was. and here i thought you had ****ed off already.

go away.

Sarah

12-06-2007, 03:38 PM

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 03:39 PM

i don't think you're a very reliable source when it comes to honesty, are you?

what a long-winded, overwrought and BORING little treatise that was. and here i thought you had ****ed off already.

go away.

Leave it to you to destroy the hopes and dreams of this poor soul by ridiculing the well-woven (albeit meandering) discourse on Buckingham's latest effort.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 03:40 PM

that was hot.

you know it's true

everything i do

i do itttttttttt forrrrrrrrrr youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

:woohoo:

carrie721

12-06-2007, 03:41 PM

Leave it to you to destroy the hopes and dreams of this poor soul by ridiculing the well-woven (albeit meandering) discourse on Buckingham's latest effort.

destroy his hopes and dreams???? dude, you don't even know. :lol:

oh my mother****ing god :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

sorry sarah, your eyerolling comment is no longer the funniest thing i've read this week.

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 03:41 PM

you know it's true

everything i do

i do itttttttttt forrrrrrrrrr youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

:woohoo:

where were you and what were you doing when that song was a big hit?

mylittledemon

12-06-2007, 03:42 PM

destroy his hopes and dreams???? dude, you don't even know. :lol:

oh my mother****ing god :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

sorry sarah, your eyerolling comment is no longer the funniest thing i've read this week.

haha...at least you knew I was joking for once!

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 03:44 PM

i don't think you're a very reliable source when it comes to honesty, are you?

what a long-winded, overwrought and BORING little treatise that was. and here i thought you had fu**ed off already.

go away.

See, this is what people are talking about. You have the right to say what you want. But, don't act surprised when people say this kind of thing drives people away :shrug:

Note - I make no comment on the veracity of either party here. I comment solely on the antagonistic vibe of the post and the general comment made earlier by Markolas.

In the end, wouldn't it just be better to put Taken on ignore if he drives you that batty?

Sarah

12-06-2007, 03:45 PM

sorry sarah, your eyerolling comment is no longer the funniest thing i've read this week.

it's okay. i'll spring something else on you when you least expect it.

omgsurpriezbuttsecks!!1

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 03:49 PM

. . . It was clear to me what he meant - a handful of people were hailing UTS as a masterwork like another masterwork in LOTC. With all due respect to Mr. Strand's youthful countenance, having had a couple siblings in his age orbit who were reasonably sophisticated etc. makes me feel the release date of Joni's LP is pretty irrelevant in the comparison. :shrug:

Actually, I meant LOTC was timeless and generally if not universally considered great. UTS hold no such pedigree and likely never will. Again, I am not saying LB is not brilliant or that UTS was not an artistic triumph for him on a personal scale. I am just saying it was not "great" as I define that term; conversely LOTC was great and stands in sparse company - a paucity of equals if you will. Interestingly, Tusk, which was both great and mostly LB's brain child, stands in that inner circle of greatness :shrug:

carrie721

12-06-2007, 03:54 PM

See, this is what people are talking about. You have the right to say what you want. But, don't act surprised when people say this kind of thing drives people away :shrug:

where did i act surprised?

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 04:05 PM

where did i act surprised?

Then that is rather pathetic on your part. Are you deliberately anatagonistic with the intent of driving people away and with the knowledge to the point of being unsurprised when that goal is achieved :eek: Somehow, I doubt that.

But, and to the point, if not you, then others refuted that their and your actions drove people away. I submit that the referenced post is an example of how people could be turned off from here.

In the end, ignore is always the best option. Sadly, many, including me, rarely take that advice.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 04:08 PM

Then that is rather pathetic on your part. Are you deliberately anatagonistic with the intent of driving people away and with the knowledge to the point of being unsurprised when that goal is achieved :eek: Somehow, I doubt that.

But, and to the point, if not you, then others refuted that their and your actions drove people away. I submit that the referenced post is an example of how people could be turned off from here.

In the end, ignore is always the best option. Sadly, many, including me, rarely take that advice.

um, i was saying that i wasn't shocked that markolas said i was driving people away. cuz i've heard it before. i'm sorry you took the time to type all that out.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 04:12 PM

um, i was saying that i wasn't shocked that markolas said i was driving people away. cuz i've heard it before. i'm sorry you took the time to type all that out.

Actually, you responded to my statement "don't act surprised when people say this kind of thing drives people away" -- more than one person said it and you did not limit the response to Markolas :shrug:

Keep your eye on the ball or the fur wrist restraints are coming out Missy :D

danax6

12-06-2007, 04:12 PM

Not funny - just honest.Yes, we all know honesty goes a long way.

Please.

David

12-06-2007, 04:13 PM

carrie721

12-06-2007, 04:16 PM

Actually, you responded to my statement "don't act surprised when people say this kind of thing drives people away" -- more than one person said it and you did not limit the response to Markolas :shrug:

has more than one person said it in this thread? cuz i was only talking about this thread. who the fukc knows, this **** blurs together :laugh:

Keep your eye on the ball or the fur wrist restraints are coming out Missy :D

you wish :p

danax6

12-06-2007, 04:17 PM

I thought mark & paula were pals, & I thought justin & carrie were pals, so obviously the loading & server troubles I'm having with the whole board are worse than I thought.No, obviously you've been away too long. :shrug:

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 04:17 PM

Hey you guys be careful because they're probably gonna put a lock on this thread & I don't want it to get locked.

I thought mark & paula were pals, & I thought justin & carrie were pals, so obviously the loading & server troubles I'm having with the whole board are worse than I thought.

I know - I never had any problems Justin. It all must have gone down in my absence.

Also -- I am against the mod.'s locking this thread. Please do not do that!

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:18 PM

lol
maria's the new ledgie ****-stirrer. :thumbsup:

i never saw that one coming. :xoxo:
hehe... I have a little troublemaker in my blood.

Bitch. At least in Indiana we just throw a punch. In Kentucky, they purposely try to knock out teeth when throwing punches so they can carry on their toothless notoriety.
Shut up?! You're in Indiana?!
um, i was saying that i wasn't shocked that markolas said i was driving people away. cuz i've heard it before. i'm sorry you took the time to type all that out.
Actually, you responded to my statement "don't act surprised when people say this kind of thing drives people away" -- more than one person said it and you did not limit the response to Markolas :shrug:

Keep your eye on the ball or the fur wrist restraints are coming out Missy :D
Thas what I'm talkin' 'bout.... there's the endless banter I miss so...

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 04:19 PM

. . . this **** blurs together :laugh:

two threads -- one bowl

just saying ;)

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:21 PM

Yeah, please don't lock my thread... I need to watch everyone bitch and let it out like we used to!

skcin

12-06-2007, 04:22 PM

I know - I never had any problems Justin. It all must have gone down in my absence.

Also -- I am against the mod.'s locking this thread. Please do not do that!

Carrie's thing with Justin is personal. Why should it upset anyone else? :laugh: She didn't tell everyone to go away, just him.

And I concur - this is the most action this place has seen in months. Let's not stifle it. :woohoo: Please.

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:24 PM

And I concur - this is the most action this place has seen in months. Let's not stifle it. :woohoo: Please.
WORD!
Please mods... let go, let us.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 04:27 PM

two threads -- one bowl

just saying ;)

is that like 2 girls 1 cup? if so, i'm soooooooo not interested.

Sarah

12-06-2007, 04:32 PM

is that like 2 girls 1 cup? if so, i'm soooooooo not interested.

HAHAHAHAHA.

http://www.break.com/index/grandma-watches-2-girls-1-cup.html

"JACKIE! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY!"

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:35 PM

HAHAHAHAHA.

http://www.break.com/index/grandma-watches-2-girls-1-cup.html

"JACKIE! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY!"

LMAO!! That's great...

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 04:38 PM

Carrie's thing with Justin is personal. Why should it upset anyone else? :laugh: She didn't tell everyone to go away, just him . . . .

If it is personal, then it should be in PM. Moreover, others have joined in the personal attack :shrug: But, I do not really care about that. What I am saying is it is possible for some absent long timers who are now lurkers who would like to post in this thread to be put off by that attacking mode. It could unintentionally dissuade those people from posting. In other words, they do not want to be attacked, mocked, etc. So, I say ignoring is the best option. Having said that, if everyone ignores everyone, we are back in Dudsville :nod:

DrummerDeanna

12-06-2007, 04:38 PM

And I concur - this is the most action this place has seen in months. Let's not stifle it. :woohoo: Please.

Word.

This is the most interesting thread I've read on here in a long time. While I have nothing to add - or anything of interest to say really -I just want to chime in :D

Nothing on here has interested me in the last few weeks - it's nice to see some activity.

I hope it was ok for me to post this, I forgot to get Carrie's permission first :o

:p

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:40 PM

Word.

This is the most interesting thread I've read on here in a long time. While I have nothing to add - or anything of interest to say really -I just want to chime in :D

Nothing on here has interested me in the last few weeks - it's nice to see some activity.

I hope it was ok for me to post this, I forgot to get Carrie's permission first :o

:p

Post away... no one needs permission. I started it... haha!

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 04:40 PM

is that like 2 girls 1 cup? if so, i'm soooooooo not interested.

I thought it was bowl as they were eating it. Of course, after a hot and spicy Mexican buffet - it could be a cup :eek:

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:42 PM

I thought it was bowl as they were eating it. Of course, after a hot and spicy Mexican buffet - it could be a cup :eek:

You're a sick bastard...
Knock it off before they delete my thread.:mad:

:lol:

Sarah

12-06-2007, 04:42 PM

I thought it was bowl as they were eating it. Of course, after a hot and spicy Mexican buffet - it could be a cup :eek:

it may very well be a bowl, but it's called a cup.

not that i've watched it. because i haven't. and won't.

carrie721

12-06-2007, 04:42 PM

I hope it was ok for me to post this, I forgot to get Carrie's permission first :o

:p

bad minion :mad:

:laugh:

mikeschmike

12-06-2007, 04:44 PM

it may very well be a bowl, but it's called a cup.

not that i've watched it. because i haven't. and won't.

watching the reaction vids is far more entertaining. i watched one where one gal was choking on her screams. traumatic for her, fabulous to watch.

ETA: The rest of this thread is ****ing awesome. Kind of a release for people that have been "stewing" about some issues that went down here and on other places. Keep it up! Let your frustrations be known!

DrummerDeanna

12-06-2007, 04:45 PM

Post away... no one needs permission. I started it... haha!

I know...but Carrie horsewhips those who step out of line. :distress:

danax6

12-06-2007, 04:48 PM

it may very well be a bowl, but it's called a cup.

not that i've watched it. because i haven't. and won't.With all those reaction videos out, I can't even find the original one. :shrug:

sara1998

12-06-2007, 04:50 PM

With all those reaction videos out, I can't even find the original one. :shrug:

who would want to? i didn't know what i was really in for, watch the first 15 seconds, and couldnt' turn it off fast enough. ugh. gross.

danax6

12-06-2007, 04:53 PM

who would want to? i didn't know what i was really in for, watch the first 15 seconds, and couldnt' turn it off fast enough. ugh. gross.I probably won't watch it either, I'm not Michelle. But I want to send it to my sister. :D

mikeschmike

12-06-2007, 04:54 PM

I probably won't watch it either, I'm not Michelle. But I want to send it to my sister. :D

You know she watched that mess so many times, and slept like a baby afterwards. :distress:

mikeschmike

12-06-2007, 05:04 PM

And I concur - this is the most action this place has seen in months. Let's not stifle it. :woohoo: Please.

Too bad there's a not a password for someone's account that we can pass around. That would REALLY kick it up around here.

strandinthewind

12-06-2007, 05:39 PM

I seem to remember it being an ice cream bowl - which has left me, quite frankly -- SCARRED FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, does anyone have a complete list of the banned people?

camchristo

12-06-2007, 06:57 PM

Too bad there's a not a password for someone's account that we can pass around. That would REALLY kick it up around here.

Hey, I might have something for you. Come talk to me. It always better when a few people conspire on things like this, don't you think?

camchristo

12-06-2007, 07:05 PM

See, this is what people are talking about. You have the right to say what you want. But, don't act surprised when people say this kind of thing drives people away :shrug:

Note - I make no comment on the veracity of either party here. I comment solely on the antagonistic vibe of the post and the general comment made earlier by Markolas.

In the end, wouldn't it just be better to put Taken on ignore if he drives you that batty?

And see, this is what I don't get. If someone here tells someone else, who deserves it, to **** off, it has no effect on my posting in the thread. Hell, even if the person didn't deserve it, it still wouldn't deter me from going about my own business and posting whatever it was I wanted to add to the thread.

People having issues between themselves doesn't stifle my posting. Why would it? I don't see many "attacks" on here that aren't warranted, on some level. And if someone unjustly attacked me, I'd just tell them to **** off.

So, like I said earlier, I think people should be able to tell each other how they feel without fear of getting banned. I mean really, what's the worst that can happen? Someone gets their feelings hurt? Happens all the time.

michelle2677

12-06-2007, 07:12 PM

two threads -- one bowl

just saying ;)
nasty whore.

I probably won't watch it either, I'm not Michelle. But I want to send it to my sister. :D

as I've already said (keep up), I only watched the first 15-20 seconds of it, then i had to turn it off. it was too nasty even for me. But then i called my neighbor over to watch it. I didn't get to videotape her, but I figured if I was gonna make her watch it, I had to step up.

and mike-i slept like a baby on benadryl. with sweet dreams to boot lol

i wanted to start a thread like this a long time ago. One so everyone could just get their frustrations out and go at it. i'm glad someone did, and i'm glad it hasn't been shut down yet.

I'm also thankful that most people have been able to keep their sense of humor. I mean, we have the major **** going on...and then...well. no pun intended...but a little comic relief is a good thing every now and then :) okay..as we were. let the bloodshed begin again :laugh:

estranged4life

12-07-2007, 12:14 AM

I havent posted as of late due to work, illness, changes in both musical preferences and my personal life...and boredom with all that is Fleetwood Mac (Doesnt mean I will discontinue being a poster here, I am sure I will come full circle to FM someday soon)

GardenStateGirlie

12-07-2007, 01:08 AM

honestly, i try and keep up with everyones life via myspace/livejournal whenever i have time and right now, i pretty much have none. not to mention, when the same topics are continually revisited, it gets to be a bit redundant on here :shrug:

maria, i hope you're doing well -- you look great, btw! :wavey:

trackaghost

12-07-2007, 05:18 AM

Not funny - just honest. Although I liked the concept of Buckingham acoustic blah, blah, blah, blah...

Wow, I can't believe you even have the cheek to reply to my post. I don't believe I was talking to you. Why don't you just crawl back to that hole you came out from.

Thank god for the ignore function.

trackaghost

12-07-2007, 05:23 AM

Actually, I meant LOTC was timeless and generally if not universally considered great. UTS hold no such pedigree and likely never will. Again, I am not saying LB is not brilliant or that UTS was not an artistic triumph for him on a personal scale. I am just saying it was not "great" as I define that term; conversely LOTC was great and stands in sparse company - a paucity of equals if you will. Interestingly, Tusk, which was both great and mostly LB's brain child, stands in that inner circle of greatness :shrug:

UTS is only a year old, how can you judge that? You say that UTS was not well received, well by who? And let's not talk record sales here, because Lindsey's albums have never been big sellers. I can provide countless reviews that praise UTS, it was well received by the critics and by his fanbase. I've only seen a few people here who didn't like it.

petep9000

12-07-2007, 07:36 AM

Shhhhhh!!!! We can't talk about that!! I've already been warned by our mod. The folks in Peoria might get offended.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I seem to remember it being an ice cream bowl - which has left me, quite frankly -- SCARRED FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, does anyone have a complete list of the banned people?

mylittledemon

12-07-2007, 07:40 AM

Shhhhhh!!!! We can't talk about that!! I've already been warned by our mod. The folks in Peoria might get offended.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

It was without a doubt the most disgusting thing I've ever viewed. Yuck.

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 08:29 AM

And see, this is what I don't get. If someone here tells someone else, who deserves it, to **** off, it has no effect on my posting in the thread. Hell, even if the person didn't deserve it, it still wouldn't deter me from going about my own business and posting whatever it was I wanted to add to the thread.

People having issues between themselves doesn't stifle my posting. Why would it? I don't see many "attacks" on here that aren't warranted, on some level. And if someone unjustly attacked me, I'd just tell them to **** off.

So, like I said earlier, I think people should be able to tell each other how they feel without fear of getting banned. I mean really, what's the worst that can happen? Someone gets their feelings hurt? Happens all the time.

I suppose anecdotal evidence will have to suffice. I know people who left here solely because of the negativity I am talking about. If people leaving here is worth expressing feelings in an aggressive manner, then so be it. Personally, I likely would take the more inclusive route.

There are ways to tell people you disagree with them, they hurt your feelings, etc. without an all out flame war that likely will drive people away from the FM side of the boards :shrug:

Nancy (sodascouts) wisely once said on her board - this is not a joust and letting go is a good thing :D

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 08:33 AM

UTS is only a year old, how can you judge that? You say that UTS was not well received, well by who? And let's not talk record sales here, because Lindsey's albums have never been big sellers. I can provide countless reviews that praise UTS, it was well received by the critics and by his fanbase. I've only seen a few people here who didn't like it.

Listen chiffonhead in reverse :p - once again, I did not like it. I know many others who did not, including some of his fans, which includes me BTW. If you like it and want to think everyone but a scant few loves it - so be it :cool:

As for UTS being on the level of the masterpieces I mentioned, I will never hold it that high. If you or anyone else wants to, who am I to keep you down :cool:

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 08:38 AM

Shhhhhh!!!! We can't talk about that!! I've already been warned by our mod. The folks in Peoria might get offended.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Good Lord - I say if you ban someone, have the fukcing sand to say they are banned :rolleyes:

As an aside, if this board is to survive, that type of banning should cease, which it appears to have done. Moreover and IMO, the current admin. should reach out to those IMO wrongly banned. But, that likely will never happened.

mylittledemon

12-07-2007, 10:22 AM

Listen chiffonhead in reverse :p - once again, I did not like it. I know many others who did not, including some of his fans, which includes me BTW. If you like it and want to think everyone but a scant few loves it - so be it :cool:

As for UTS being on the level of the masterpieces I mentioned, I will never hold it that high. If you or anyone else wants to, who am I to keep you down :cool:

I would agree, sort of. It's not a masterpiece. Its not better than OOTC. It ranks 2nd on his solo albums, for me. It was a GOOD album. I look forward to his next album much more!

danax6

12-07-2007, 10:59 AM

I would agree, sort of. It's not a masterpiece. Its not better than OOTC. It ranks 2nd on his solo albums, for me. It was a GOOD album. I look forward to his next album much more!I don't think anybody but Jason used the word 'masterpiece'.

Sarah

12-07-2007, 11:10 AM

I really enjoy UTS. OOTC is too much gloss for me really.

I think Law & Order is my favorite of all, but seriously, all 4 albums are so unique.. I can't and don't want to compare them.

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 11:29 AM

I would agree, sort of. It's not a masterpiece. Its not better than OOTC. It ranks 2nd on his solo albums, for me. It was a GOOD album. I look forward to his next album much more!

Please turn in your fan card - do not pass Go and do not collect $200!

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 11:41 AM

I really enjoy UTS. OOTC is too much gloss for me really.

I think Law & Order is my favorite of all, but seriously, all 4 albums are so unique.. I can't and don't want to compare them.

I love Law and Order!!!!!!

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 11:44 AM

I don't think anybody but Jason used the word 'masterpiece'.

I equated the use of "great" to that. If the proponents of UTS did not mean that great = masterpiece, then so be it. I think, however, they did and you are grasping at straws dear :wavey:

But, for the record and to placate you, I ask the following:

Who here thinks that UTS is a Masterpiece as opposed to being great. I think it is neither. Again, I love LB, but UTS was not my cup of tea.

Steviefan49

12-07-2007, 11:47 AM

well, tbh, I think most people are still skeptic about the 1-strike-and-you're-out routine. That's problem number one.

problem number two is I feel so many people have been burned by other ledgies, that everyone is on the defense. I think everyone pretty well knows what i'm talking about. we're not this happy family anymore. not that we ever were. I mean...it was disfucntional. and it was f*cked up. and it was crazy. but at least, for the most part, everyone cared for each other. there's no connection anymore. we've lots that loving feeling. now it's gone.

gone.

gone.

woah.

I also hate that the ledge has come to this. I'm not going to sit here and say "oh it's the holidays, people are busy" because it sucked before the holidays.

I think a bulk of the main posters don't really visit here as much because of certain events that have played out over the course of the past year. Then seven wonders crashed and this place was flooded with wannabes who were ~timeless~ and ~wind children~ and I felt like the few people who were left were put off by that.

okay. i'll add the holidays. yeah, people are busy *cough cough*

add that to no activity with the band, and you have a pretty bleak situation.

I keep hoping that the place will liven up but it hasn't. I wish I knew a way to fix it because I love this place. i really do.

while we're at it, the ONE thread that actually had activity going on was the thread about the 2girls1cup. it was actually an interesting thread, even though the material was disgusting. But it's not like the video was posted. it's not like a link was posted. we were just discussing the video and the reactions around it and it got deleted. so idk :shrug: whatever.

and to touch on the one strike rule. if it weren't in place, i'd say what I think REALLY think happened to the ledge :laugh:

Not sure who the "timeless" and "wind children" comment was aimed to- about being "wannabees" - but certain people - starting with myself, have been fans of FM and Stevie many LONG years- before most people were even on this planet!:laugh:

To add to this, I've been wanting to come onto the Ledge for YEARS, as I was too busy being on other boards and groups, which I still am, for MANY, MANY years- but decided to finally just do it! I've hung out and partied with Ledgies for YEARS- as Chris had mentioned.. but just finally decided to do it this past summer!

I, too agree that the 7 Wonders comings and goings had nothing to do with the Ledge, as it was here AGES before Brian ever thought about starting up 7 Wonders!

On the "OTHER SIDE OF THE MIRROR"- I'm very appreciative for all of the people who "DO" post now, and for people like Mark (Vivfox) who is wonderful enough to start threads regarding downloads of music!! Instead of being negative, and looking at the negative end of it all, why not appreciate who all is on here NOW, and enjoy what's going on? Sure- it may not be like it was long ago, shoot, nothing is- but I think there's a LOT more to be greatful for then negative about!! Meeeeeeeeeerry Christmas~!

buckymcnix

12-07-2007, 11:52 AM

Who here thinks that UTS is a Masterpiece as opposed to being great. I think it is neither. Again, I love LB, but UTS was not my cup of tea.

i would say that it is somewhere in between for me. I freakin LOVE this album. Can drive around with it in the cd player for weeks. ;)
Time will decide though if I appreciate it more or less but i would put it up as an artistic masterpiece, which def. means it won't translate well to everyone's ears.

It is SO Lindsey, heart and soul, experimental, unexpected.
I think his songcrafting has come a long way since Law and Order (which i love as well - Hot tub, Hot tub) so it is very hard to compare them all.

Sarah

12-07-2007, 12:02 PM

Please turn in your fan card - do not pass Go and do not collect $200!

HELLO, fan message board!

crap, did I just defend mylittledemon?

who spiked my cheerios?

danax6

12-07-2007, 12:04 PM

I equated the use of "great" to that. If the proponents of UTS did not mean that great = masterpiece, then so be it. I think, however, they did and you are grasping at straws dear :wavey:Now you're just putting words into my mouth, mister.

But, for the record and to placate you, I ask the following:

Who here thinks that UTS is a Masterpiece as opposed to being great. I think it is neither. Again, I love LB, but UTS was not my cup of tea.You know, this has become quite ridiculous. I posted that HERE ON THE LEDGE no one seemed to have come out of the woodwork even when Lindsey put out a great album, which was considered GREAT by the majority of the people HERE ON THE LEDGE. Which is exactly what we were talking about in the first place, the fact that not many people post anymore, and someone said it was because the band wasn't doing anything. My entire post was an answer to that particular statement and referred only to the members HERE ON THE LEDGE.

You start talking about masterpieces, 'people you know', sales, reviews and compare it to other so-called masterpieces. It was all quite irrelevant. I get that you didn't like UTS. What's the big deal here?

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 12:09 PM

^^^

Do you presume every conversation relates to you and what you said and that it cannot be a general discussion?

But, you are correct, this is ridiculous.

Steviefan49

12-07-2007, 12:21 PM

let the record show that i don't give 2 ****s about 7 wonders or the people on it. even if the conversation is dominated by it and i participate. it's just talk. it doesn't mean it matters.

also, i haven't been posting because i've been busy. and, while i still check here almost daily... there haven't been any threads that have motivated me to say anything. i mean, i guess i just don't feel like being told that i'm a cold-hearted bitch again. this week. :rolleyes:

and carrie is rad.

Bravo to Sarah! This had me cracking up this morning! LOLOL:laugh: And you are not in the least a cold-hearted bitch.. LOLOL

danax6

12-07-2007, 12:32 PM

^^^

Do you presume every conversation relates to you and what you said and that it cannot be a general discussion?

But, you are correct, this is ridiculous.Uhm, you started arguing with me about it in the first place. No?

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 12:43 PM

. . . who spiked my cheerios?

I did and that will be $5.99 + gratuity!

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 12:45 PM

Uhm, you started arguing with me about it in the first place. No?

Then others joined in and it became a conversation - presumably an inclusive one.

danax6

12-07-2007, 12:54 PM

Then others joined in and it became a conversation - presumably an inclusive one.Fair enough. It's Friday night, time to get a drink. :wavey:

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 01:04 PM

Fair enough. It's Friday night, time to get a drink. :wavey:

Lord Child you ain't a lying on that one :cool:

Tonight is the Christmas/Holiday Party for my building. This should prove interesting as the Haloween party turned into the dressed like a whore straight girls doing lebo acts on the dance floor while the drunk frat guys (presumably their boyfriends) cheered them on :eek:

Am I a bad person for buying several pitchers of beer for the drunk frat guys?

Sarah

12-07-2007, 01:17 PM

Lord Child you ain't a lying on that one :cool:

Tonight is the Christmas/Holiday Party for my building. This should prove interesting as the Haloween party turned into the dressed like a whore straight girls doing lebo acts on the dance floor while the drunk frat guys (presumably their boyfriends) cheered them on :eek:

Am I a bad person for buying several pitchers of beer for the drunk frat guys?

Buying pitchers of beer for others is never wrong. Sharing is caring.

Phoenix

12-07-2007, 01:22 PM

Lord Child you ain't a lying on that one :cool:

Tonight is the Christmas/Holiday Party for my building. This should prove interesting as the Haloween party turned into the dressed like a whore straight girls doing lebo acts on the dance floor while the drunk frat guys (presumably their boyfriends) cheered them on :eek:

Am I a bad person for buying several pitchers of beer for the drunk frat guys?

The answer to that question would definately be no.
Party on.:thumbsup:

strandinthewind

12-07-2007, 01:32 PM

^^^

Well, I put the pitchers in a stall in the mens' room :o

:blob2::blob1::wavey:

Phoenix

12-07-2007, 01:35 PM

^^^

Well, I put the pitchers in a stall in the mens' room :o

:blob2::blob1::wavey:

:shocked::lol: wow. :cool:

mylittledemon

12-07-2007, 03:31 PM

Lord Child you ain't a lying on that one :cool:

Tonight is the Christmas/Holiday Party for my building. This should prove interesting as the Haloween party turned into the dressed like a whore straight girls doing lebo acts on the dance floor while the drunk frat guys (presumably their boyfriends) cheered them on :eek:

Am I a bad person for buying several pitchers of beer for the drunk frat guys?

Only a slightly bad person...for buying them for annoying frat guys, yes.

danax6

12-07-2007, 03:46 PM

Tonight is the Christmas/Holiday Party for my building. This should prove interesting as the Haloween party turned into the dressed like a whore straight girls doing lebo acts on the dance floor while the drunk frat guys (presumably their boyfriends) cheered them on :eek:Sounds like my kind of party.

Am I a bad person for buying several pitchers of beer for the drunk frat guys?If so, we can share a room in hell.

sara1998

12-07-2007, 04:19 PM

maria, i hope you're doing well -- you look great, btw! :wavey:

I'm doing great, babe... and thank you!

michelle2677

12-07-2007, 07:23 PM

Not sure who the "timeless" and "wind children" comment was aimed to- about being "wannabees" - but certain people - starting with myself, have been fans of FM and Stevie many LONG years- before most people were even on this planet!:laugh:

it wasn't aimed at one specific person. it was the people who cannot stop using ~~~ and hearts and stars, and everything that is glittery :laugh:

petep9000

12-08-2007, 12:55 AM

What, you don't share my enthusiasm for rainbows, unicorns, and spelling the word magic as m-a-g-i-c-k? I named my kitten Rhiannon, and had 'Beautiful Child' playing in the delivery room while I had my daughter Sara. The bumper sticker on my mini-van says 'Be-Witched' and I found a shawl at Wal-Mart that's too small for me since the baby but I can drape over a lampshade...hey is something burning?

Love and light!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

it wasn't aimed at one specific person. it was the people who cannot stop using ~~~ and hearts and stars, and everything that is glittery :laugh:

buckymcnix

12-08-2007, 01:09 AM

What, you don't share my enthusiasm for rainbows, unicorns, and spelling the word magic as m-a-g-i-c-k? I named my kitten Rhiannon, and had 'Beautiful Child' playing in the delivery room while I had my daughter Sara. The bumper sticker on my mini-van says 'Be-Witched' and I found a shawl at Wal-Mart that's too small for me since the baby but I can drape over a lampshade...hey is something burning?

Love and light!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

lol:woohoo: thanks for the laugh.

i think michelle gets her shawls at K-mart though.:lol:

did i read somewhere that you got a warning for something? :shrug:

petep9000

12-08-2007, 02:23 AM

Yup. It was me. First time it's ever happened to me, since I joined in 2001. Free speech don't exist in waaay down souf' in North Carolina yet, so our new mod is going to have to adjust to the different thinking round these here parts.

darn tootin'.

lol:woohoo: thanks for the laugh.

i think michelle gets her shawls at K-mart though.:lol:

did i read somewhere that you got a warning for something? :shrug:

Ghost_Tracker

12-08-2007, 02:36 AM

Dear God. I hope you are joking. Those are fighting words.

Well totally but she DID say she wanted to "spice things up!" LOL! ;)

jannieC

12-08-2007, 07:48 AM

Yup. It was me. First time it's ever happened to me, since I joined in 2001. Free speech don't exist in waaay down souf' in North Carolina yet, so our new mod is going to have to adjust to the different thinking round these here parts.

darn tootin'.

I'm originally from NY (lived there 26 years). I'm pretty sure I understand the whole free speech thing. It wasn't me who gave you the warning, though it was my idea to get rid of that thread (and it was unanimously agreed upon by the other mods and Michele). I have always appreciated your posts, but honestly thought that that one specific one was a little too sick and like it or not, there *are* people on this board who would find that offensive. What I should have done, before deleting the thread was given an explanation, and I plan on doing that from now on. Once I get adjusted to the different thinking round these parts, that is.

michelle2677

12-08-2007, 08:58 AM

What, you don't share my enthusiasm for rainbows, unicorns, and spelling the word magic as m-a-g-i-c-k? I named my kitten Rhiannon, and had 'Beautiful Child' playing in the delivery room while I had my daughter Sara. The bumper sticker on my mini-van says 'Be-Witched' and I found a shawl at Wal-Mart that's too small for me since the baby but I can drape over a lampshade...hey is something burning?

Love and light!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

i am cracking up. baby, there is magick all around you :lol: :xoxo:

Serrart

12-08-2007, 09:03 AM

I have to say, I sucessfully ignored it. I do not remember even commenting on it. I will say though, that fortunately, it was mostly confined to two or three titular threads. But, and back to my point, when that essestially is all that is going on to any significant degree and you are ignoring it, this place becomes somewhat irrelevant to your world.

To me it's still relevant for informations about Stevie and FM, but for the rest... no.

Romy

Serrart

12-08-2007, 09:11 AM

Lindsey should do more of what Stevie always did: collaborate with big names. If he works with Jack Black on the next one, his fans & the Black fans will buy his dickybird.

If LB hasn't got used to selling 50,000 units by now, he's in for a rough ride ahead into Old Age Canyon or Has-Been Butte or even the Valley of Geriatric Dementia.

I'm digging this thread! People are letting the tiniest tips of their rage & frustration show, & soon they will be letting it all hang out & we will have ACTIVITY once again on the Ledge. But we will still be doing battle with the server, which should have the marrow leached out of it to make soup with.

Yes but why Jack Black should want to collaborate with LB?

Romy

Steviefan49

12-08-2007, 10:12 AM

it wasn't aimed at one specific person. it was the people who cannot stop using ~~~ and hearts and stars, and everything that is glittery :laugh:

Ok.. LOL.. That's what I thought you were going for but wasn't sure.. LOL:laugh:

mylittledemon

12-08-2007, 10:31 AM

Yes but why Jack Black should want to collaborate with LB?

Romy

You mean Jack White? I can see the confusion. Two thoughts just came to mind...golf courses suck up valuable real estate, and 2) Jack White is overrated. I'd rather see Lindsey produce his own stuff.

sara1998

12-08-2007, 11:52 AM

while I had my daughter Sara.
Hey, dammit.... My daughters name is Sara... don't knock it!
:lol:

LiamMcConville

12-08-2007, 02:01 PM

michelle2677

12-08-2007, 02:54 PM

Great thread, I haven't been around long enough to have any say on why its slow, or any negative feelings toward Senior members.

But I can say, I'm deeply hurt that it took six pages for my name to be brought up. :distress:

face it. you're not all that :shrug:

:laugh: :p

SortaSavageLike

12-08-2007, 03:39 PM

LiamMcConville

12-08-2007, 04:43 PM

face it. you're not all that :shrug:

:laugh: :p

NO! Until Vanessa says it, its not TRUE! :(

LiamMcConville

12-08-2007, 04:47 PM

Set "posts per page" to 30. You'll get mentioned sooner that way. :laugh:

:eek: GENIUS!

Phoenix

12-08-2007, 05:20 PM

LiamMcConville

12-08-2007, 05:42 PM

Hey after you saying that, i just noticed it says 2007 for you. I thought youd been around waay longer than that.

Hm, that's odd. Maybe you're mistaking me for someone else?

michelle2677

12-08-2007, 07:24 PM

NO! Until Vanessa says it, its not TRUE! :(

vanessa just sent me to tell you that you're not all that.

Serrart

12-09-2007, 12:13 PM

You mean Jack White? I can see the confusion. Two thoughts just came to mind...golf courses suck up valuable real estate, and 2) Jack White is overrated. I'd rather see Lindsey produce his own stuff.

Actually I was asking (since David wrote Jack Black) why the actor should want to collaborate with LB. But Even for Jack White I don't see why he should choose Lindsey to collaborate with. I don't see the challenge.

Romy

buckymcnix

12-09-2007, 01:51 PM

**Carrie oh Carrie I loved you so well . . .

If I Live to be 100, I'll Love You still . . . :xoxo:

:distress::confused:

(**stolen and altered lyrics alert)

GardenStateGirlie

12-09-2007, 03:16 PM

I'm doing great, babe... and thank you!

glad to hear it. how are the girls doing??

Gypsy-Rhiannon

12-09-2007, 06:24 PM

I'm gonna cry.
It's been more dead than usual here.
I miss the way it used to be.
Where are the trolls? Where are the heated political debates? Where is everyone at yanking eachothers chain??
I miss this place.
Talk to me, dammit!!!

I find the ledge incredibly slow. Does anyone else? I get pissed off trying to get into threads that I just give up. And replying can take an age too

michelle2677

12-09-2007, 06:44 PM

I find the ledge incredibly slow. Does anyone else? I get pissed off trying to get into threads that I just give up. And replying can take an age too

yes, yes, and yes :mad:

danax6

12-09-2007, 09:46 PM

yes, yes, and yes :mad:aaaaand yes.

it's probably carrie's fault. gays ruin everything. :distress:

sara1998

12-09-2007, 09:47 PM

sara1998

12-09-2007, 09:52 PM

glad to hear it. how are the girls doing??

My girls are wonderful! Thank you for asking... Sara is getting so big, and she's such a good kid. Samantha is giddy as hell because her mother allowed for her to get her first tattoo today... haha... and she got two. So did I. (I'll post pics) Anyhow, they're both doing really well in school. I have no complaints!
This is Sam's new one. It's been a year today since her grandfather passed, so this is for both her grandmother and grandfather.
http://i6.tinypic.com/6le57ht.jpg

This is my cover-up.
http://i13.tinypic.com/8bo4xol.jpg

And this is what Samantha, her mom and myself all got behind our right ears.
http://i18.tinypic.com/8axmz60.jpg

Sarah

12-09-2007, 10:09 PM

aaaaand yes.

it's probably carrie's fault. gays ruin everything. :distress:

flagged!

jk. :xoxo:

Phoenix

12-09-2007, 10:11 PM

My girls are wonderful! Thank you for asking... Sara is getting so big, and she's such a good kid. Samantha is giddy as hell because her mother allowed for her to get her first tattoo today... haha... and she got two. So did I. (I'll post pics) Anyhow, they're both doing really well in school. I have no complaints!
This is Sam's new one. It's been a year today since her grandfather passed, so this is for both her grandmother and grandfather.
http://i6.tinypic.com/6le57ht.jpg

This is my cover-up.
http://i13.tinypic.com/8bo4xol.jpg

And this is what Samantha, her mom and myself all got behind our right ears.
http://i18.tinypic.com/8axmz60.jpg

Hey those are nice.:thumbsup:

sara1998

12-09-2007, 10:32 PM

Hey those are nice.:thumbsup:
Thanks sweetie... I like them good!

GardenStateGirlie

12-09-2007, 10:53 PM

sara1998

12-09-2007, 11:04 PM

i just have to say that i think it's really cool that you, samantha, and her mother have such a close relationship.

how long did it take for the tattoo artist to complete samantha's tattoo? i don't think i could sit for that long :distress:

Yeah, it is pretty cool. Did I ever think this would happen when my husband was alive? Not in a million years...

Sam's tattoo took about 2 hours. She did a great job, but got a little frustrated in the end. It's hard for her to sit that long.

buckymcnix

12-10-2007, 01:09 PM

I have a couple questions.

For warnings, does someone have to complain or do the mods just go through all the posts and find what they think deserves a warning?

Can we have a complete list of Mods?
Quite a few mods have stepped down and i saw in one of the threads that it still may say "moderator" or "super moderator" by their names for awhile.

I put this here since this is the thread that caused the suspension.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

12-10-2007, 02:02 PM

The board seems to be moving faster for me again now...

Edit... well it was until I tried to post a reply!

petep9000

12-10-2007, 02:12 PM

I think some people just need to get a grip and grow up a little. I never posted a link to the vid, nor did I ever describe the gory details.

Frankly, I get offended when people use the 'F' word in their posts, but I don't see that being addressed as yet.

I'm originally from NY (lived there 26 years). I'm pretty sure I understand the whole free speech thing. It wasn't me who gave you the warning, though it was my idea to get rid of that thread (and it was unanimously agreed upon by the other mods and Michele). I have always appreciated your posts, but honestly thought that that one specific one was a little too sick and like it or not, there *are* people on this board who would find that offensive. What I should have done, before deleting the thread was given an explanation, and I plan on doing that from now on. Once I get adjusted to the different thinking round these parts, that is.

Sarah

12-10-2007, 02:19 PM

Getting offended over anything is lame.

Everyone should just get over everything.

sara1998

12-10-2007, 02:24 PM

Getting offended over anything is lame.

Everyone should just get over everything.

Preach it!

I swear... it takes a hell of a lot to offend me. And honestly, I could care less. People need to get over themselves... everyones always crying about how someone said something and offended someone else. WTF? Posting about poop.... everyone does it, why are you offended? Don't look at it if it's not your cup of tea... The "F" word... it's just a word. We didn't kill your grandma.

Christ.

mylittledemon

12-10-2007, 02:30 PM

Preach it!

I swear... it takes a hell of a lot to offend me. And honestly, I could care less. People need to get over themselves... everyones always crying about how someone said something and offended someone else. WTF? Posting about poop.... everyone does it, why are you offended? Don't look at it if it's not your cup of tea... The "F" word... it's just a word. We didn't kill your grandma.

Christ.

Yeah...but TALKING about poop is one thing. Two cats chowing down on it like it was Fancy Feast is another.

bretonbanquet

12-10-2007, 02:32 PM

Nothing on here could offend me, except when some people get away with worse "crimes" than those for which other people have been punished. That offends me.

petep9000

12-10-2007, 02:41 PM

sara1998

12-10-2007, 02:42 PM

Yeah...but TALKING about poop is one thing. Two cats chowing down on it like it was Fancy Feast is another.

LMAO...
So, don't watch it. You have the right to just say no to googling poop eating people.

michelle2677

12-10-2007, 02:52 PM

But no one made you Google it (if in fact, you did). I didn't even facilitate it by providing a link. Sure, watching it might be hard to swallow (so to speak) but no one had to. And it'd be much different if I posted a screen cap of it- in that case it would probably be justified in banning me or sending me a snarky warning.

Nope, I'm sorry. I'm not buying anyone's offendedness about this.

i'm with you :shrug: curiosity got the best of me and I googled it like a dumbass :laugh:

do I blame you for that? slightly :laugh: J/K

but now i've had hours of entertainment watching the reactions and I have you to thank for that.

it takes very little to offend me. very little. I might get pissed, but actuallly offended? no.

unless someone threatens to string me up and up and bludgeon me within an inch of my life. that distresses me a bit.

petep9000

12-10-2007, 03:04 PM

So it must have been a different Michelle then, that agreed with the board mods that the whole thread needed to be shut down and deleted. Or she's just blowing smoke.

i'm with you :shrug: curiosity got the best of me and I googled it like a dumbass :laugh:
do I blame you for that? slightly :laugh: J/K
but now i've had hours of entertainment watching the reactions and I have you to thank for that.
it takes very little to offend me. very little. I might get pissed, but actuallly offended? no.
unless someone threatens to string me up and up and bludgeon me within an inch of my life. that distresses me a bit.

mylittledemon

12-10-2007, 03:09 PM

But no one made you Google it (if in fact, you did). I didn't even facilitate it by providing a link. Sure, watching it might be hard to swallow (so to speak) but no one had to. And it'd be much different if I posted a screen cap of it- in that case it would probably be justified in banning me or sending me a snarky warning.

Nope, I'm sorry. I'm not buying anyone's offendedness about this.

Hey Pete, I'm not saying that I was offended...I thought it was disgusting yes and I went there of my own accord. I was under the impression they were saying you posted the link to it...like you posted the actual site.

Sarah

12-10-2007, 03:19 PM

Let's restart the "this or that" thread right here.

Hey Michelle, which is more gross? Hominy Poop or Hominy Vomit?

:laugh:

petep9000

12-10-2007, 03:22 PM

Nah. I stopped myself before I did that. :lol:

Hey Pete, I'm not saying that I was offended...I thought it was disgusting yes and I went there of my own accord. I was under the impression they were saying you posted the link to it...like you posted the actual site.

BTFLCHLD

12-10-2007, 04:26 PM

Well, I am back to work today after an extended visit to hell. I can now visit the ledge more often as that is generally when I would post... while "working."

I hope all is well with everyone. :wavey:

mylittledemon

12-10-2007, 04:26 PM

Well, I am back to work today after an extended visit to hell.

Wisconsin?

#1LiddyBuckFan

12-10-2007, 04:30 PM

michelle2677

12-10-2007, 07:31 PM

So it must have been a different Michelle then, that agreed with the board mods that the whole thread needed to be shut down and deleted. Or she's just blowing smoke.

oh, well they were talking about michele, the owner of the site. note 1 L, where mine has 2. I would have never agreed that it needed to be shut down. I was the one posting in it!! :laugh:

Let's restart the "this or that" thread right here.

Hey Michelle, which is more gross? Hominy Poop or Hominy Vomit?

:laugh:

where is that damn thing?? I'll go find it.

hmmm...that's a toughie. I'm fairly confident hominy is not going to do vomit or poop any favors, so i'll go with hominy vomit. i can sometimes deal with poop, but i can't deal with vomit at all :distress:

jannieC

12-10-2007, 08:50 PM

I have a couple questions.

For warnings, does someone have to complain or do the mods just go through all the posts and find what they think deserves a warning?

From what I can tell so far, it's a mixture of both. Normally it begins with a complaint or reported post from someone, but sometimes it can be something a mod stumbles across.

Can we have a complete list of Mods?
Quite a few mods have stepped down and i saw in one of the threads that it still may say "moderator" or "super moderator" by their names for awhile.

I put this here since this is the thread that caused the suspension.

All of the current mods are listed in the lower right hand corner of each forum. Edited to add: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=34724

So it must have been a different Michelle then, that agreed with the board mods that the whole thread needed to be shut down and deleted. Or she's just blowing smoke.

I was talking about Michele, the owner of the board. Listen, in the big scheme of things, is it really that big of a deal that this particular thread was removed? I appreciate that you didn't post the link, but for most people, curiosity would compel one to find it- I did it at work (like a dumbass)! I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about it. As I said in my earlier post, I will explain a deleted thread to everyone, rather than just deleting it.

LiamMcConville

12-10-2007, 09:21 PM

i'm with you :shrug: curiosity got the best of me and I googled it like a dumbass :laugh:

do I blame you for that? slightly :laugh: J/K

but now i've had hours of entertainment watching the reactions and I have you to thank for that.

it takes very little to offend me. very little. I might get pissed, but actuallly offended? no.

unless someone threatens to string me up and up and bludgeon me within an inch of my life. that distresses me a bit.

Subtle, well played. :lol:

petep9000

12-10-2007, 10:16 PM

You know what? I don't feel 'strongly' about a lezbo scat video. What I do feel strongly about is this notion that just even hinting that such a thing exists out there on the web will cause the chiffonhead flock to compulsively Google for it, as if they have no mind of their own.

Everybody knows how easy it is to find shocking material on the web, and guess what- those two crack-heads weren't the first two to ever be filmed in a situation as gross as that nor will they be the last. I think you and whoever else moderates this forum just merely called more attention to it. And like I said in my (unanswered) reply to your finger-waving warning to me, I dont' see you censoring anyone here when they pollute their posts with 'F' bombs.

From what I can tell so far, it's a mixture of both. Normally it begins with a complaint or reported post from someone, but sometimes it can be something a mod stumbles across.

All of the current mods are listed in the lower right hand corner of each forum. Edited to add: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=34724

I was talking about Michele, the owner of the board. Listen, in the big scheme of things, is it really that big of a deal that this particular thread was removed? I appreciate that you didn't post the link, but for most people, curiosity would compel one to find it- I did it at work (like a dumbass)! I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about it. As I said in my earlier post, I will explain a deleted thread to everyone, rather than just deleting it.