Gold Dust Woman Ending

[joshywashy377]

Hey, not sure if this has been discussed, but what are the screamy noises at the end of GDW? They give me goosebumps...

[Sahara]

Hey, not sure if this has been discussed, but what are the screamy noises at the end of GDW? They give me goosebumps...

This was one of the first questions I ever posted on the Ledge... hang on until I find the link.

Edit: Woops, I just realised that that might be misinterpreted as "This has already been discussed, how dare you post another thread about it?!"
That's not how I meant it at all! :wavey:

[Sahara]

Here we go:
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=19282

[joshywashy377]

Thanks! And no, you seemed very polite!

[David]

I think it's Stevie shrieking & howling in her gutteral way, possibly through an amplified flanger or phaser. The engineers used a flanger or a phaser on the clavinet on that track, so maybe they ran Stevie's shrieks through it.

Which review was it (Esquire? Creem? Hit Parader?) that referred to the "Welsh witch howls that end the record"?

[michelle2677]

i've never heard the shattering glass. can anyone give me an exact time on when it happens? or is it only on a certain version?

[gldstwmn]

Can someone repost the live mp3 discussed in the thread Sahara linked?

[Sahara]

Can someone repost the live mp3 discussed in the thread Sahara linked?
I think I have it ... give me a few minutes!
It's REALLY worth a listen :eek:

Edit: Here it is, Philadelphia 21/Mar/77
http://www.mediafire.com/?djgfsdskttc

[Sahara]

i've never heard the shattering glass. can anyone give me an exact time on when it happens? or is it only on a certain version?
The album version is just around 4.03 ... it's much shorter than I thought, and not as prominent. You'll need to crank the speakers up!

[gldstwmn]

:wavey:I think I have it ... give me a few minutes!
It's REALLY worth a listen :eek:

Edit: Here it is, Philadelphia 21/Mar/77
http://www.mediafire.com/?djgfsdskttc

Thanks love! :wavey:

[Sahara]

:wavey:

Thanks love! :wavey:
No problem! Michelle actually posted the whole Philadelphia show plus loads of others in this thread:
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=33701

Thanks Michelle!

[Sarah]

the shattering glass is one of my favorite things about this song. i noticed it from the first time i heard it... i just think it is so cool.

[michelle2677]

No problem! Michelle actually posted the whole Philadelphia show plus loads of others in this thread:
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=33701

Thanks Michelle!

you're welcome :) one of these days I'll get around to the other tours. i'm having a really hard time uploading lately. I'll have to drive my comp downtown or something :lol:

the shattering glass is one of my favorite things about this song. i noticed it from the first time i heard it... i just think it is so cool.

I don't hear it :( :( :distress:


does anyone have any gold dust women ( :laugh: ) with the new ending?

baby, baby, baby, baby, baby-you can't save me now..etc??

i have none, and I totally dig it.

and while i'm at it, an edge with "I know what it sounds like, it sounds like you". I think i have ONE version of this.

[SortaSavageLike]

Gold Dust Woman gave me freakin' nightmares the first few times I actually listened to it. I'd hear that cowbell clunking away with every step I took when I was out walking. Don't believe me? Step...Step. Step...Step. Clunk...Clunk. Clunk...Clunk. :eek:

[Sahara]

does anyone have any gold dust women ( :laugh: ) with the new ending?

baby, baby, baby, baby, baby-you can't save me now..etc??

i have none, and I totally dig it.

and while i'm at it, an edge with "I know what it sounds like, it sounds like you". I think i have ONE version of this.

I second both these requests.
The ending of Edge on Crystal Visions gives me the chills. "Somewhere deep in the middle of the night..."

And don't get me started on the dancing-with-Waddy. Sexy as all hell.

[gldstwmn]

No problem! Michelle actually posted the whole Philadelphia show plus loads of others in this thread:
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=33701

Thanks Michelle!

That wail is wild! I'm glad someone captured it on tape.

[Villavic]

The first time I heard GDW was when I was 11, in 1977 when my brother bought the You make loving fun vynil single, and GDW was side B.

I was too young and logically found it too dark, never paid attention and probably never listened the song completely. But in mid 80s when I became a FM fan, I used to listened carefully all songs, and I loved Gold Dust Woman, all those sounds at the end, so mistic and dark,, I adored it. I had the Rumours tape and later the CD, both had all those sounds in different level, so it was great to listen it different.

[stevierocks87]

I know the glass shattering is on the original issue of the Rumours CD, but I believe they took it off both TVBofFM and the reissue (or maybe just one or the other). Something about it being "too scary". I love it and really don't get why they would take something out of the original version.

[michelle2677]

I second both these requests.
The ending of Edge on Crystal Visions gives me the chills. "Somewhere deep in the middle of the night..."

And don't get me started on the dancing-with-Waddy. Sexy as all hell.




oh yes.


*pops in CV*

[danax6]

does anyone have any gold dust women ( :laugh: ) with the new ending?I for you upload tomorrow cause I is going to bed now.

And don't get me started on the dancing-with-Waddy. Sexy as all hell.I'm sorry, but what planet are you from?

[LiamMcConville]

I for you upload tomorrow cause I is going to bed now.

I'm sorry, but what planet are you from?

Gold Dust Woman
Crystal Visions Era
Live In Los Angeles, CA
5.19.2007

http://www.sendspace.com/file/juj99i

I was at this show! And the ending isn't new, I'm quite sure you've heard it before.

[danax6]

And the ending isn't new, I'm quite sure you've heard it before.Moi? Oui. Mais je ne sais pas si Michelle l'a entendu auparavant.

[LiamMcConville]

Moi? Oui. Mais je ne sais pas si Michelle l'a entendu auparavant.

No not YOU. I just happened to quote you, and since Michelle did indeed go to the Soundstage recording, she's heard the "new" ending.

[strandinthewind]

1. That a human voice is making those last noises is beyond belief. I truly wish she would give this much in her current guise.

2. CM 's voice and La Nicks' voice were sheer bliss. They played off of each other and the result was great.

3. This is a five member band with four playing instruments. Yet, the sound is huge. Sadly, it takes three other guitarists, tracks, and four or five backups to get the same sound that is, IMO, not as good.

Thanks for psoting these!

[JazmenFlowers]

oh yes. the Philly 77 version has long been a favorite of mine.

[The Catdancer]

1. That a human voice is making those last noises is beyond belief. I truly wish she would give this much in her current guise.

2. CM 's voice and La Nicks' voice were sheer bliss. They played off of each other and the result was great.

3. This is a five member band with four playing instruments. Yet, the sound is huge. Sadly, it takes three other guitarists, tracks, and four or five backups to get the same sound that is, IMO, not as good.

Thanks for psoting these!

1. I totally agree
2. I totally agree
3. I totally agree

I was listening to it today.Why the hell do they have back up singers and a back up band??? They rocked the house down with just the 5 of them. They were amazing :nod:

[David]

I was listening to it today.Why the hell do they have back up singers and a back up band??? They rocked the house down with just the 5 of them. They were amazing :nod:So have you changed your mind about Fleetwood Mac? You said a few months ago that Stevie was the (only) one with the "magic." I didn't know precisely what you meant, but I figured it did not mean the other four were "amazing."

[Sahara]

I'm sorry, but what planet are you from?
Eyy, leave me alone! :mad: :p I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that....

[Sarah]

Eyy, leave me alone! :mad: :p I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that....

Unfortunately. :distress:

[michelej1]

Eyy, leave me alone! :mad: :p I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that....

I think it's atmospheric and a little mysterious, but I can't say I think it's sexy. But I don't think there's anything involving Waddy that I'd find sexy. The closest I get is the intro to EO17 where we see the video backdrop of him playing, with the real Waddy standing right in front of us. That's pretty exciting. And it just might be sexy. On the verge maybe.

But of course, if you really want sexy it would be Taku during the
EO17 intro. That's hot.


Michele

[Sahara]

I think it's atmospheric and a little mysterious, but I can't say I think it's sexy. But I don't think there's anything involving Waddy that I'd find sexy. The closest I get is the intro to EO17 where we see the video backdrop of him playing, with the real Waddy standing right in front of us. That's pretty exciting. And it just might be sexy. On the verge maybe.

Aww, now that IS mean... :(

[SortaSavageLike]

Aww, now that IS mean... :(

Waddy...sexy? The guy looks like Fred Phelp's psychotic daughter, and his guitar skills would have landed him in an AC/DC tribute band if Linda Ronstadt was never popular! :shrug:

[Sahara]

Sorry, perhaps ye picked me up wrong - I never said Waddy was sexy, I said the dancing was.
Though he's alright as far as I'm concerned... :shrug:

[jannieC]

I think it's atmospheric and a little mysterious, but I can't say I think it's sexy. But I don't think there's anything involving Waddy that I'd find sexy. The closest I get is the intro to EO17 where we see the video backdrop of him playing, with the real Waddy standing right in front of us. That's pretty exciting. And it just might be sexy. On the verge maybe.


Michele

Omg Michele- that is hilarious. :laugh:

[Janis_no1]

Gold Dust Woman
Crystal Visions Era
Live In Los Angeles, CA
5.19.2007

http://www.sendspace.com/file/juj99i

I was at this show! And the ending isn't new, I'm quite sure you've heard it before.

hmmm... on that note can anyone remember anything that was?? except for wardrobe?? lol :sorry:

[Mywyldhrt]

Hey, not sure if this has been discussed, but what are the screamy noises at the end of GDW? They give me goosebumps...

I don't know what that is-yes, it is chilling. I once or twice made the mistake of doing GDW at kareoke. The words on the soundstage mp3 are just ridiculous....it's like "ummmm, death" . These words that I never heard on the album and never heard Stevie sing these words live. I was embarrassed!! It looked so evil!!

[joshywashy377]

Speaking of crappy lyric translation, have any of u seen the ones on the mirage dvd? Rhiannon is "We aaaaaaadled" and several more travesties i cant remember... if u have it check out the subtitles for a good laugh!

[Dr.Brown]

Getting back to the original subject at hand...

Hey, not sure if this has been discussed, but what are the screamy noises at the end of GDW? They give me goosebumps...

Goosebumps indeed, after careful analysis and bandwith isolation this is what I heard:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3mcci6

:eek:

[Peestie]

Getting back to the original subject at hand...



Goosebumps indeed, after careful analysis and bandwith isolation this is what I heard:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3mcci6

:eek:

:laugh: Awesome!


I don't know if my version of GDW has the breaking glass sound. It's the 2 disc remaster from a few years ago and I don't think I've ever heard it. Unless I'm just missing it because I don't see the logic in taking it out.

[PenguinHead]

1. That a human voice is making those last noises is beyond belief. I truly wish she would give this much in her current guise.
2. CM 's voice and La Nicks' voice were sheer bliss. They played off of each other and the result was great.

3. This is a five member band with four playing instruments. Yet, the sound is huge. Sadly, it takes three other guitarists, tracks, and four or five backups to get the same sound that is, IMO, not as good.

Thanks for psoting these!

1. It's quite possible the vocal track may have had some studio tinkering.

2. I agree...their harmonies were in fact sheer bliss (along with any harmonies with Lindsey too!) The travesty is that they rarely capitalized on those harmonies, especially as time went on.

3. The thing about this -- the Mirage tour was the last time they played without a backing band (except for an occasional acoustic guitar). I saw them then, and the show was amazingly good --a big full sound. While they didn't attempt recreate sound-for-sound the studio versions of songs, they reinterpreted them for a live setting with minimal instrumentation. I was always excited to see how they would achieve this.

Fast forward to the heavy corporatization and Vegas style approach to concert scene these days, there has been a mass culture shift in that approach. Now instead of going to a concert with the excitement of not knowing what could happen....we know exactly what's going to happen, with everything highly calibrated and tightly canned. Vegas style!

It certainly seems to be the unfortunate trend. The roll has been taking out of rock. Plus you have a new generation of fans that expect performances to be a carbon copy of the record...what's the point of that? I wonder how many bands feel that pressure. One trend I've noticed --as bands get older they seem to add more and more backup players to the roster, filling in the sound and adding every nuance from the recorded verision. Is it old age? A diminished lack of confidence? The pressure to be perfect? To protect their legacy?

With regard to the bootlegs -- I'll take the sometimes thin, scrappy, rough and out-of-tune performances from 1975-1982, over any shows they did since then.

[strandinthewind]

^^^

I wonder if the full sound is due to the players are their friends and they do not want to put them out of work. Clearly, LB and La Nicks like many people backing them up because their solo sets are full of players, save for LB's last tour, which was scaled down, possibly due to cost restraints as opposed to his desire.

[vivfox]

2. I agree...their harmonies were in fact sheer bliss (along with any harmonies with Lindsey too!) The travesty is that they rarely capitalized on those harmonies, especially as time went on.
3. The thing about this -- the Mirage tour was the last time they played without a backing band (except for an occasional acoustic guitar). I saw them then, and the show was amazingly good --a big full sound. While they didn't attempt recreate sound-for-sound the studio versions of songs, they reinterpreted them for a live setting with minimal instrumentation. I was always excited to see how they would achieve this.
It certainly seems to be the unfortunate trend. The roll has been taking out of rock. Plus you have a new generation of fans that expect performances to be a carbon copy of the record.

With regard to the bootlegs -- I'll take the sometimes thin, scrappy, rough and out-of-tune performances from 1975-1982, over any shows they did since then.

My thoughts exactly!!!
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[bucklind17]

This is mentioned on the thread linked to on the first page, but I always thought there was some Lindsey screeching going on too. Something about the tone of voice, granted with some likely tinkering, sounds quite a bit like him. I wouldn't doubt that it's some of both of them, especially after hearing that live version of Stevie going at the eerie noises!

I recall fondly that moment in Making of Rumours when Lindsey singles this sound out and stares at the soundboard like it has two heads, laughs and then comments "I think it's fair to say we were under a good amount of duress", and raises his eyebrows. Priceless.

[David]

I wonder if the full sound is due to the players are their friends and they do not want to put them out of work.Doesn't seem likely to me. Those people (Tuggle, Hirano, Garfield, Castro, &c.) all found work with dozens of other acts over the years.

Clearly, LB and La Nicks like many people backing them up because their solo sets are full of players, save for LB's last tour, which was scaled down, possibly due to cost restraints as opposed to his desire.I think his last tour was scaled down for musical reasons. The album often -- in Lindsey's, Christine's & Stevie's cases -- dictates to a large degree just what the touring band consists of. On Buckingham's first solo tour, he wanted to take a meticulous approach to re-creating the poly-parts of the studio music. Nicks solo album personnel often toured that album with her (or else she pulled in others to play parts as played on the album, as she did in 1989). Chris did the same thing on her one & only post-Rumours solo tour, largely relying on the personnel who played on the album.