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Peestie
10-16-2007, 09:25 AM
Do you think we'll ever hear To Try For The Sun and Flying Down Juniper in a live setting? They're the only 2 songs from UTS which haven't been played yet at some point or another. To be honest, if he never does FDJ live I'll not care since I don't know how well it would come across live, but TTFTS would be really cool to hear done.

Personally I'm glad that so many of the songs from UTS have been done live because there are plenty of band I know that play maybe one or two songs from their newest album and fill the rest up with the "classics and hits" and it can be pretty depressing. He's done 7 of them at some point on tour for the album and two of them (SGCYM and IAW) were only done for Soundstage. I think it's so cool to see him do so many of them when he could have easily filled the set with more Mac stuff and just done one or two of the new ones. :thumbsup:

danax6
10-16-2007, 09:26 AM
I don't care much for Flying Down Juniper, but I am always interested in hearing a live arrangement. I'm very open-minded. :laugh: But I'd love a live rendition of To Try For the Sun. It's one of my favorite tracks on the album.

TrueFaith77
10-16-2007, 10:50 AM
I don't care much for Flying Down Juniper, but I am always interested in hearing a live arrangement. I'm very open-minded. :laugh: But I'd love a live rendition of To Try For the Sun. It's one of my favorite tracks on the album.

I would give anything for Lindsey to cover Hurdy Gurdy Man!

Are you listening, Lindsey??

gretchen
10-16-2007, 10:54 AM
I don't care much for Flying Down Juniper, but I am always interested in hearing a live arrangement. I'm very open-minded. :laugh: But I'd love a live rendition of To Try For the Sun. It's one of my favorite tracks on the album.

Oh god, I love Juniper..it's so lush and gorgeous and I would love to hear it live. He would prob do the most amazing arrangement for the live piece. $.02

AliceLover
10-16-2007, 12:07 PM
Flying Down Juniper - No Way

Try for the Sun - HELL YES! Its like #3 of my top 25 songs played on my Ipod!

shackin'up
10-16-2007, 01:10 PM
If Under The Skin does well live-which it does, Juniper will too. I really can't split those songs up. I love them. They're sistersongs like Not That Funny and IKINW are brothers.

stevierocks87
10-16-2007, 02:04 PM
I've been dying to hear "Try for the Sun" live ever since I first heard the GOS version a few years ago. I think it would be incredibly moving and relevent for Stevie and Lindsey to do this song during the "acoustic" set (along with Gypsy!), with Stevie providing slight backing vocals "Red Rover" style :nod:. Lindsey should introduce the background story of the song so I think everyone would "get it" and have a good response even though it is a "rarer" song that they seem so afraid to do :rolleyes: (Why did I write that like a Zagat review? Lol.)

TrueFaith77
10-16-2007, 02:14 PM
I've been dying to hear "Try for the Sun" live ever since I first heard the GOS version a few years ago. I think it would be incredibly moving and relevent for Stevie and Lindsey to do this song during the "acoustic" set (along with Gypsy!), with Stevie providing slight backing vocals "Red Rover" style :nod:. Lindsey should introduce the background story of the song so I think everyone would "get it" and have a good response even though it is a "rarer" song that they seem so afraid to do :rolleyes: (Why did I write that like a Zagat review? Lol.)


What's the "background" story of the song? Is there a special, private meaning that Lindsey attaches to that Donovan track? (Again: "Try for the Sun" is wonderful, but "Hurdy Gurdy Man" is the greatest song of all time. . .)

shackin'up
10-16-2007, 02:27 PM
What's the "background" story of the song? Is there a special, private meaning that Lindsey attaches to that Donovan track? (Again: "Try for the Sun" is wonderful, but "Hurdy Gurdy Man" is the greatest song of all time. . .)
Lindsey, never cover hurdy gurdy man, the ultimate coverversion is already made: the version of the Butthole Surfers.

TrueFaith77
10-16-2007, 02:41 PM
Lindsey, never cover hurdy gurdy man, the ultimate coverversion is already made: the version of the Butthole Surfers.

shatter my dreams. . .

mylittledemon
10-16-2007, 05:13 PM
What's the "background" story of the song? Is there a special, private meaning that Lindsey attaches to that Donovan track? (Again: "Try for the Sun" is wonderful, but "Hurdy Gurdy Man" is the greatest song of all time. . .)

I thought Lindsey wrote it when I first heard it--

"We huddled in the derelict building...the gypsy girl and I...."

--that made me think of Lindsey and Stevie hanging out in his family's coffee plant? (i think I heard that, or read that somewhere).

I think FLYING DOWN JUNIPER is one of the better songs on the record. The lyrics are very emotional. I'm amazed at how many people dont care for it.

shackin'up
10-16-2007, 05:16 PM
I think FLYING DOWN JUNIPER is one of the better songs on the record. The lyrics are very emotional. I'm amazed at how many people dont care for it.

me too. I love it. It's a childhood picture.

shackin'up
10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
shatter my dreams. . .

didn't mean that.:sorry:

but The Surfers did a crackerversion.

michelej1
10-16-2007, 06:08 PM
I thought Lindsey wrote it when I first heard it--

"We huddled in the derelict building...the gypsy girl and I...."

--that made me think of Lindsey and Stevie hanging out in his family's coffee plant? (i think I heard that, or read that somewhere).



Yeah, she said it was spooky, so they used to lock themselves up in the one room with all their things. Ooh My Love reminds me of that too: the chamber where they spent all their time.

Lindsey sounded like Donovan wasn't happy that he was doing a cover, but that didn't deter Lindsey.

As for Juniper, when I heard that it was a street where he grew up, I guess I thought a little differently about it. But before that, I just had this impression of dead children flying. It struck me as both saccharine and creepy. Now, I do perceive it in a more Citizen Kane way. Ruthless, rich old man dies and the last words from his lips are not about his publishing empire, wealth or power, but about a happy childhood memory of sliding down a snowbank on a beloved sled. In that sense, I can kind of get into all of the innocence and carefree things that the word Juniper conjures up for LB. But aside from the words, I don't like the music either.

Michele

Peestie
10-16-2007, 06:10 PM
I don't really hear Hurdy Gurdy Man as a song Lindsey would do, but I'd love to hear what he'd do to it make it his own just out of pure curiosity.

stevierocks87
10-16-2007, 06:39 PM
What's the "background" story of the song? Is there a special, private meaning that Lindsey attaches to that Donovan track? (Again: "Try for the Sun" is wonderful, but "Hurdy Gurdy Man" is the greatest song of all time. . .)

Just how the song, with a few minor lyric changes, does a beautiful job of describing their life before making it big with Fleetwood Mac. Stevie almost always talks about this, but I just think it would be good with Lindsey talking about it in context of the song ;)

Sarah
10-16-2007, 07:00 PM
Lindsey sounded like Donovan wasn't happy that he was doing a cover, but that didn't deter Lindsey.


Is that in an interview or article? I'd like to see the quote!

mylittledemon
10-16-2007, 07:00 PM
Yeah, she said it was spooky, so they used to lock themselves up in the one room with all their things. Ooh My Love reminds me of that too: the chamber where they spent all their time.

Lindsey sounded like Donovan wasn't happy that he was doing a cover, but that didn't deter Lindsey.

As for Juniper, when I heard that it was a street where he grew up, I guess I thought a little differently about it. But before that, I just had this impression of dead children flying. It struck me as both saccharine and creepy. Now, I do perceive it in a more Citizen Kane way. Ruthless, rich old man dies and the last words from his lips are not about his publishing empire, wealth or power, but about a happy childhood memory of sliding down a snowbank on a beloved sled. In that sense, I can kind of get into all of the innocence and carefree things that the word Juniper conjures up for LB. But aside from the words, I don't like the music either.

Michele

Strange. I never got that AT all. I was thinking...children flying as in, riding bikes...skateboards...a sled, anything. Dead children? Hmm.

Peestie
10-16-2007, 07:06 PM
Is that in an interview or article? I'd like to see the quote!

It was something about Lindsey saying he wanted to cover it but thought Donovan would "wonder why I'm doing that one and would probably say 'What the Hell's he want to cover that one for?! [in mock angry Scottish accent]'" (paraphrasing to the best of my memory. There was definitely something about the Scottish accent)

I don't remember reading that Donovan himself didn't want him to cover it. I think it was more that Lindsey imagined he wouldn't and said so in an interview or two

michelej1
10-16-2007, 08:33 PM
The article is on the official website, lindseybuckingham.com at

http://www.lindseybuckingham.com/press/article_display.asp?loc=2006-12.asp

Guitar World Acoustic:Your arrangement of it is very different from the original, the most obvious change being that it's in 6/8 time instead 4/4.

BUCKINGHAM: That was to suit my own petty guitar needs. It's funny-one of the guys I work with was also working with Donovan at the time I was cutting it, and he mentioned to Donovan that I was doing one of his songs. When he heard which one it was, he said [imitating an angry Scotsman], "'Try for the Sun'? What's he doing that one for?" So if he ever hears my version, he'll probably go, "He ****ed it up!" I don't know how well I succeeded in putting it together.

michelej1
10-16-2007, 08:42 PM
Strange. I never got that AT all. I was thinking...children flying as in, riding bikes...skateboards...a sled, anything. Dead children? Hmm.

Well, you know he talks about brothers and sisters, dead and gone, and then the children flying down Juniper. I didn't know what Juniper was, but it didn't sound like that happy a place to me. But I admit to being warped. I am an X-Files fan and it kind of reminded me of the Closure episode of the show, where Mulder finally learns what happened to his sister (whom he thought had been abducted by aliens). She disappeared into a place where all abused children go. He went there and saw her and there were all of these "happy," missing dead children playing and I don't know . . .

Yes, when I learned that Juniper's a street in his neighborhood, I imagine bike-riding too, just like my brother and I used to ride around the block. But when I first heard the song, I didn't know what Juniper was. I thought it was a fairry land for kids who aren't with us anymore and it just didn't sound that good.

But even if it is a song about happy, nostalgia and unburdened youth, I don't like it that way either. It is too sweet and sugary for me.

Michele

Betsy
10-16-2007, 10:34 PM
I never knew what Flying Down Juniper was...I first heard the phrase on GOS on Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind...

When I saw it was a song by itself on UTS, it didn't make any sense. It had to be autobiographical. Then someone on the Ledge posted a comment from Lindsey...how it was a street near his house and they rode their bikes down that street.

After reading that, the song made more sense and it reminded me of my childhood and friends long long gone.

(I like the phrase better on the SGCYM song...)

I like the Ledge because it educates (and entertains) me, and I love to read the differing viewpoints. Thanks guys!