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michelej1
10-14-2007, 08:28 PM
I've got to give my man (if CAH will let me borrow him) credit. With very little prompting, he can work all of his speeches into a single interview, with rapid fire speed. All the host was saying was things like, "you're great, talk to me about that" and Lindsey would start rattling off compartmental-survival mode-Warner Bros. execs listening to Tusk for the first time phrases out of nowhere, making sure not to leave any out.
The things that stood out for me were:
1. When asked to talk about Fritz, he said that he played bass. Stevie wasn't really a lead singer so much in the band, just a vocalist. The keyboardist wrote all of the songs. Then he said that he and Stevie were not romantically involved at the time. They were just friends. Well . . . that's nice, but no one had even asked him!
2. When he inherited the money and bought music equipment with it, he said although it wasn't a large amount it also put him and Stevie in a position to not have to work, "for awhile." So, the way he said "for a while" with emphasis made it clear that the money didn't last them forever, but if you listen to Stevie, you'd think they never had any income at all except what she earned with her little hands. He brought money to the table when they started and at the end when he went on tour.
3. Instead of saying the "package deal" thing, he says that he told the band that they would have to take "my girlfriend" then he sort of cocked his head to the camera and smiled. The interviewer said that turned out to be a good idea and he agreed.
4. The interviewer said that Rhiannon was the first big hit off of the White album. I wouldn't necessarily agree. Lindsey didn't deny it. Hey, that stuff can be like a circus wheel. It changes all of the time. Sometimes, I can't help but feel that I'm wasting all of my time.
5. The interviewer said he loved Go Insane. Lindsey replied, "I do too." The interviewer indicated that GI was about his seven year relationship with CAH. Lindsey actually turned it around and made it sound like GI was about Stevie. Said breaking up with her, not getting away from her, compartmentalizing, walling up, having to produce her music which only helped her get farther away . . . He said GI was about all of that. I don't necessarily buy that. Like CAH, I do think most of it is about her, but I think it's interesting that Lindsey would spin it now.
6. Says he doesn't know if Gift of Screws was going to be the name of his solo album. He said that was a title, but some people didn't like it.
7. Interviewer asked if he started playing on a toy guitar and he said that he did, but after a year his parents bought him a three chord guitar. He listened to his parents music, because that was all they had in the house: adult music. But when his brother brought home Elvis, Patty Page went out the window. Said that they had a normal, Donna Reed household on the outside, then he'd go into his brother's room, play rock and that was what was going on behind closed doors, "under the skin."
The interviewer asked a lot of questions based on things he'd already read about Lindsey and just asked Lindsey to talk about that, rather than asking anything new. He'd tell Lindsey things about himself like, "You're a big fan of Laurie Anderson." And Lindsey would just nod sagely. If the guy had said, "You're a God!" Lindsey would have nodded and said, "hmm hmmm."
Michele
njova
10-14-2007, 09:25 PM
When was this interview?
michelej1
10-14-2007, 09:47 PM
When was this interview?
It came on right before the HDnet concert tonight. I don't know when the interview was taped. It might have been done in January at the time of the concert. I'm unsure.
Michele
TrueFaith77
10-15-2007, 02:53 PM
Great run-down of the interview. I laughed everytime he said: "left palette." haha
I'm especially glad you caught the "under the skin" line AND most significantly, the way he spun that question about CAH/Go Insane. When the question was asked: I gasped. . . I couldn't wait to see what he'd say; given the release of the book (I assume the interview was recent). And then it was all about Stevie. I literally felt like I had missed something in my shock over the question even being asked. That was INTENSE.
The other interesting aspect of the interview was the way the interviewer kinda skoffed at "Say You Will" (the title of which I don't think was ever mentioned, by the way) and Lindsey defended the album as being what he wanted it to be as a group album (rather than the solo album) and his usual thing about being part of a band (left-palette, right-palette), but I was disappointed that he didn't say: that album is great and everyone should buy it. :(
michelej1
10-15-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm especially glad you caught the "under the skin" line AND most significantly, the way he spun that question about CAH/Go Insane. When the question was asked: I gasped. . . I couldn't wait to see what he'd say; given the release of the book (I assume the interview was recent). And then it was all about Stevie. I literally felt like I had missed something in my shock over the question even being asked. That was INTENSE.
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I guess Lindsey has compartmentalized CAH right out of his memory. If the interview was done at about the same time as the concert, maybe it was before the book came out. I guess it doesn't really matter. FM has known about the book for a long time now, so even if the interview was done in January, it could have been on Lindsey's mind when he answered the question. In fact, in his last Q & A when John talked about some of the lies that had been circulating about the band, I wondered if he was alluding to the book. Really, I can't think of any other negative comments being made about FM at all recently, to which John could have been referring.
Lindsey gave Keith some nice props.
I also like it when he corrected the interviewer as to where Rumours was recorded. He said that they went to the "exotic" Sausalito for that and added that their minds were probably exotic around that time as well.
Michele
vivfox
10-15-2007, 06:35 PM
I never thought Go Insane was about CAH. I felt he was talking about Stevie when the song was brand new and I would listen to it all the time. At the end of the song he sings(repeats) several times, "phony musician."
danax6
10-15-2007, 06:43 PM
I've got to give my man (if CAH will let me borrow him) credit. With very little prompting, he can work all of his speeches into a single interview, with rapid fire speed. All the host was saying was things like, "you're great, talk to me about that" and Lindsey would start rattling off compartmental-survival mode-Warner Bros. execs listening to Tusk for the first time phrases out of nowhere, making sure not to leave any out.
Oh no. Did we get another painting analogy? Cramming feelings into one corner of the room? Is his faith in cycles still intact? Sounds like I can skip the interview. :cool:
michelej1
10-15-2007, 08:28 PM
Oh no. Did we get another painting analogy? Cramming feelings into one corner of the room? Is his faith in cycles still intact? Sounds like I can skip the interview. :cool:
It looks like someone has shaken Lindsey's faith in cycles. He didn't mention those:laugh:
The interviewer was telling him that he's a great lyricist (well, thanks for noticing!) and said that his words were simplistic, but meaningful and he recited, "two kinds of people in this world, winners, losers . . . two kinds of trouble in this world. . ."
A non-rote thing that Lindsey said was that his lyrics were not romantic because he doesn't think his approach to life is particularly romantic. Actually though, I would disagree with him. I think some of his lyrics are romantic, have the idealism of romance. Even the way he interprets a song like Peacekeeper (which is not the way I hear the song) is romantic, in the sense that if you work together and persevere through adversity, you will prevail in life and in love.
Michele
michelej1
10-15-2007, 08:36 PM
I never thought Go Insane was about CAH. I felt he was talking about Stevie when the song was brand new and I would listen to it all the time. At the end of the song he sings(repeats) several times, "phony musician."
For the line, "she's a lot like you" I thought it could go either way. I thought it could be about Cheri and Carol or about Stevie and Carol.
Michele
DESTINYRU!ES
10-15-2007, 09:38 PM
I never thought Go Insane was about CAH. I felt he was talking about Stevie when the song was brand new and I would listen to it all the time. At the end of the song he sings(repeats) several times, "phony musician."
I'm sorry but I never hear him say "phony musician" at the end of that song(or in any part). I think you might be referring to the end of the song when he layers three vocals to the fade out. I believe he is only saying, "Go, Go" in the highest voice, "Go-ing Insane" next, and the lowest voice says"Go Insane" for the third vocal layer. I think it's funny how everyone hears something different in this when that's all there is to it. Someone should ask him a question about the lyrics at the end of the song. I"m sure he'd agree with what I stated. Sending the question on...
michelej1
10-16-2007, 02:17 AM
I'm sorry but I never hear him say "phony musician" at the end of that song(or in any part).
I don't think it would occur to Lindsey to call Stevie any kind of musician. "Phony magician," perhaps. Hmmm. In a heartbroken, drunken stupor maybe he thought to himself, "Just because she wears a top hat, that don't make her a magician!"
Michele
danax6
10-16-2007, 06:25 AM
A non-rote thing that Lindsey said was that his lyrics were not romantic because he doesn't think his approach to life is particularly romantic. Actually though, I would disagree with him. I think some of his lyrics are romantic, have the idealism of romance.Yes. Certainly not in the way that Stevie works, by romanticizing the romanticism, like Lindsey once pointed out. And not even Stevie writes songs like Because You Loved Me, which is the other side of the romance coin, the fluffy side. I think Lindsey views his songs as more realistic and down to earth, whereas Stevie's songs, though taken from real life also, always have to have that extra dramatic pitch and are often layered with nice things to make them more hopeful and ~magickal~. A good example is Planets of the Universe, which she changed the words to because the original song was too harsh. That's something I think Lindsey would never do.
Even the way he interprets a song like Peacekeeper (which is not the way I hear the song) is romantic, in the sense that if you work together and persevere through adversity, you will prevail in life and in love.Absolutely. "Don't be afraid, love is the sweet surprise." and "All of our friends are God, and they all tell us how to paint our face. But there's only one brush we need, it's the one that never leaves a trace."
It also reminds me of his cover of Love Minus Zero/No Limit. I adore the speech he gave right before he performed it has AHI 2001, because I 100% agree. It's a song where the romance isn't laid on thickly, but if you look at the words, it's one of the most romantic songs ever.
For the line, "she's a lot like you" I thought it could go either way. I thought it could be about Cheri and Carol or about Stevie and Carol.Seeing how he probably worked on GI mostly throughout 1983, it's too early for it to have anything to do with Cheri. She didn't come into the picture until late 1984, after the release of the album.
golddustwoman77
10-16-2007, 07:34 AM
5. The interviewer said he loved Go Insane. Lindsey replied, "I do too." The interviewer indicated that GI was about his seven year relationship with CAH. Lindsey actually turned it around and made it sound like GI was about Stevie. Said breaking up with her, not getting away from her, compartmentalizing, walling up, having to produce her music which only helped her get farther away . . . He said GI was about all of that. I don't necessarily buy that. Like CAH, I do think most of it is about her, but I think it's interesting that Lindsey would spin it now.
Michele
I thought that was interesting too. He is totally spinning that, because in the liner notes for Go Insane it says "for Carol Ann." That album is about her and their ending relationship. My guess is after the release of CAH's book he is totally pissed at her, and he doesn't want to give her any press at all, JMHO.
DESTINYRU!ES
10-16-2007, 08:33 AM
I don't think it would occur to Lindsey to call Stevie any kind of musician. "Phony magician," perhaps. Hmmm. In a heartbroken, drunken stupor maybe he thought to himself, "Just because she wears a top hat, that don't make her a magician!"
Michele
Would everyone go and listen to the end of the song in head phones please. He never sings about a phony anything. If you hear this, please tell us the exact time in the song in which he does so. I've already sent this question on to Lindsey but I hope for the sake of other better questions he skips it cause to me there's no controversy over what he's saying.
Peestie
10-16-2007, 08:46 AM
I'm sorry but I never hear him say "phony musician" at the end of that song(or in any part). I think you might be referring to the end of the song when he layers three vocals to the fade out. I believe he is only saying, "Go, Go" in the highest voice, "Go-ing Insane" next, and the lowest voice says"Go Insane" for the third vocal layer. I think it's funny how everyone hears something different in this when that's all there is to it. Someone should ask him a question about the lyrics at the end of the song. I"m sure he'd agree with what I stated. Sending the question on...
I hear the same as you "Go, Go" "Going Insane" and "Go Insane". To be honest, I'd never listened for words in that part. I always just thought of it as his wordless stuff like the start of Eyes of the World. Now that you've pointed that out to me I think I like this song even more. :]
danax6
10-16-2007, 09:15 AM
Would everyone go and listen to the end of the song in head phones please. He never sings about a phony anything.No, he definitely doesn't.
michelej1
10-16-2007, 11:11 AM
Would everyone go and listen to the end of the song in head phones please. He never sings about a phony anything. If you hear this, please tell us the exact time in the song in which he does so. I've already sent this question on to Lindsey but I hope for the sake of other better questions he skips it cause to me there's no controversy over what he's saying.
So, he is not saying "phony?" Maybe it is "funny nutrition" in acknowledgment of his growing addiction to wheat thins! Oh well . . .
For the record, I don't think he's saying "Annie" either.
Actually, the only real question I have about what he's saying comes up when I'm watching the Slow Dancing video. I can't actually verbalize it, without the video in front of me, but you know there are little monsters or flowers or something, little heads that are talking. What are they saying? Until I saw the video, I thought that was just music. I didn't know there were actual additional lyrics there. But they are saying something. Michele
vivfox
10-16-2007, 11:13 AM
There's always the possibility we have different versions. I bought mine over 20 years ago when it was brand new and on my copy which I haven't listened to in more than a decade I might add, he sings, "she's a lot like you, phony musician" several times at the end of the song. Maybe it was remixed and released later with a different version? I'll give another example. In 1982 I bought Mirage on the day of its release and of course I loved and played Straight Back a million times. A few months later I made a new Stevie friend and she had purchased only the cassette version of Mirage and one day when we were listening to her tape in the car I was like,"WTF!" Her version of Straight Back was diff. than the album version!!! Are you guys aware of this fact? Soooooooooooo maybe it might be the same w/Lindsey's song, who knows? I don't even know if I have it on cassette or album, I'll have to go look and listen and then get back to ya'll.
michelej1
10-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Yes. Certainly not in the way that Stevie works, by romanticizing the romanticism, like Lindsey once pointed out. And not even Stevie writes songs like Because You Loved Me, which is the other side of the romance coin, the fluffy side. I think Lindsey views his songs as more realistic and down to earth, whereas Stevie's songs, though taken from real life also, always have to have that extra dramatic pitch and are often layered with nice things to make them more hopeful and ~magickal~. A good example is Planets of the Universe, which she changed the words to because the original song was too harsh. That's something I think Lindsey would never do.
I don't find the overriding message hopeful in Dreams, as the heart beat has driven him mad (in classic telltale, guilt-ridden Poe style) pining for what he has lost, long before the rain washes him clean.
On the other hand, having someone offer to give you the world, if you would only take it from them, is a beautiful love song, Stevemeister. So, don't say he never wrote any for you.
Michele
Sarah
10-16-2007, 11:31 AM
He seriously is not saying phony musician, phony magician, or anything of the sort.
Not on vinyl, not on cassette, and not on cd.
michelej1
10-16-2007, 11:46 AM
He seriously is not saying phony musician, phony magician, or anything of the sort.
Not on vinyl, not on cassette, and not on cd.
What! I'm positive about phony magician and that's also a reference to the sleight of hand she uses in twirling the tamborine, which he probably doesn't think is all that hot of a talent.
About Stevie's lyrics, I just wanted to add that the change she makes to Don't Stop is very annoying. If the alteration is to make the song less negative -- that's the most upbeat song in the band's repertoire already! If the alteration is just because she doesn't know the doggone words, well that's troublesome too. Christine couldn't care less, but for someone who puts so much store in their own lyrics, Stevie should be a bit more mindful of the bandmate's. Wasn't good equals BAD. Michele
danax6
10-16-2007, 12:06 PM
On the other hand, having someone offer to give you the world, if you would only take it from them, is a beautiful love song, Stevemeister. So, don't say he never wrote any for you.
I know. I guess she could only focus on the 'packin' up, shackin' up' part of the song. Everything else? If only a guy would tell me that.
carrie721
10-16-2007, 12:27 PM
for someone who puts so much store in their own lyrics, Stevie should be a bit more mindful of the bandmate's.
stevie doesn't even know her own lyrics half the time :laugh:
buckymcnix
10-16-2007, 12:29 PM
stevie doesn't even know her own lyrics half the time :laugh:
that always cracks me up -
especially since her set-list has basically been set in stone for decades now.:woohoo:
carrie721
10-16-2007, 12:31 PM
that always cracks me up -
especially since her set-list has basically been set in stone for decades now.:woohoo:
lol i know, right? :laugh:
"beauty and the what now? outside the drain? i can never keep this **** straight ..."
Sarah
10-16-2007, 12:31 PM
freakin' stevie nicks.
i long for a day when her name doesn't appear on the lindsey board. :distress:
carrie721
10-16-2007, 12:34 PM
freakin' stevie nicks.
i long for a day when her name doesn't appear on the lindsey board. :distress:
good luck with that. don't you know that you can't discuss lindsey's music on its own merits, that you have to bring up stevie in order for it to all make sense? oh, and sales stats. those help too.
SortaSavageLike
10-16-2007, 12:41 PM
I can't believe we're talking about Fleetwood Mac on a Fleetwood Mac fan site. Does it really matter what any of their songs are about? We all know that half of Lindsey's songs are about his pet cat who ran away during the making of Rumours, anyway.
Sarah
10-16-2007, 12:46 PM
don't you know that you can't discuss lindsey's music on its own merits, that you have to bring up stevie in order for it to all make sense?
where's that friggin' puking icon?
http://www.memphisracingscene.com/vb/images/smilies/mrs_puke.gif
there it is.
http://www.memphisracingscene.com/vb/images/smilies/mrs_retard.gif omg dont u lyk ~stevieeeee~~~ ?
danax6
10-16-2007, 12:46 PM
stevie doesn't even know her own lyrics half the time :laugh:oh man, i can't believe i didn't say this first. what's wrong with me? :(
don't you know that you can't discuss lindsey's music on its own merits, that you have to bring up stevie in order for it to all make sense?should i be offended? :mad:
TrueFaith77
10-16-2007, 01:01 PM
I don't find the overriding message hopeful in Dreams, as the heart beat has driven him mad (in classic telltale, guilt-ridden Poe style) pining for what he has lost, long before the rain washes him clean.
On the other hand, having someone offer to give you the world, if you would only take it from them, is a beautiful love song, Stevemeister. So, don't say he never wrote any for you.
Michele
Yep! In addition (way off-topic), some writer somewhere said that it was interesting that younger Stevie's songs were "tougher" than the older Christine's. I think that's bunk too. Stevie's are the songs of someone in turmoil, who can't quite control her emotions; Christine's are tough cuz she looks at heartache... sensibly. All these different approaches are, of course, what makes Rumours the greatest album of all time. :woohoo:
JazmenFlowers
10-16-2007, 01:14 PM
I don't find the overriding message hopeful in Dreams, as the heart beat has driven him mad (in classic telltale, guilt-ridden Poe style) pining for what he has lost, long before the rain washes him clean.
true, because it's not meant to be hopeful or a lovesong.
On the other hand, having someone offer to give you the world, if you would only take it from them, is a beautiful love song, Stevemeister. So, don't say he never wrote any for you.
are you kidding me? lmao. I just...I...there are no words. there are none.
danax6
10-16-2007, 01:18 PM
are you kidding me? lmao. I just...I...there are no words. there are none.Jaz, go your own way, please. I don't want you around anymore. :mad:
michelej1
10-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Yep! In addition (way off-topic), some writer somewhere said that it was interesting that younger Stevie's songs were "tougher" than the older Christine's. I think that's bunk too. Stevie's are the songs of someone in turmoil, who can't quite control her emotions; Christine's are tough cuz she looks at heartache... sensibly. All these different approaches are, of course, what makes Rumours the greatest album of all time. :woohoo:
I am not sure about the context of "tougher". So, I can't really comment knowledgeably on that. If we are just talking about lyrical content, Stevie doesn't often subjugate herself the way Christine does in her words. That's why, when you have a song like "Reconsider Me," when Stevie says that's not usually her style, I know exactly what she means. While lyrically, Christine herself would write something like Reconsider Me. Now, I'm just saying that about the lyrics. As people, I wouldn't dare say that Stevie is tougher than Chris or vice versa.
And of course, what I always say is that is what I love so much about, for instance, Think About Me. Christine makes it a plea and Lindsey jumps in and makes it a demand. I love it.
Other times I love when Lindsey's scream gives a lyric a harsher edge is when he's on Angel shouting "haunted song" and on EFO with the back ground vocals, "anywhere we can baby, anytime he can . . . " Actually, Lindsey is not rougher there than Stevie is there, because Stevie's own vocals are pretty hard-edged anyway.
As for Lindsey's romanticism, he's always had the ability for poetic imagery and melancholy. You can't deny it on Can't Go Back, for example. But these days it's a more consistent theme in all of his work and it's quite beautiful.
Michele
JazmenFlowers
10-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Jaz, go your own way, please. I don't want you around anymore. :mad:
but, but, I tried to write you a lovesong and it came out all rainbows and fairies. please, let's try again. doesn't your heartbeat drive you ~mad~
SortaSavageLike
10-16-2007, 01:21 PM
Jaz, go your own way, please. I don't want you around anymore. :mad:
I love you, you useless slut. :xoxo:
michelej1
10-16-2007, 01:21 PM
true, because it's not meant to be hopeful or a lovesong.
And yet Stevie interprets it as both. And her interpretation of the song is what I was talking about.
Michele
JazmenFlowers
10-16-2007, 01:23 PM
What! I'm positive about phony magician and that's also a reference to the sleight of hand she uses in twirling the tamborine, which he probably doesn't think is all that hot of a talent.
:lol:
:shocked: wait. are you serious?
About Stevie's lyrics, I just wanted to add that the change she makes to Don't Stop is very annoying. If the alteration is to make the song less negative -- that's the most upbeat song in the band's repertoire already! If the alteration is just because she doesn't know the doggone words, well that's troublesome too. Christine couldn't care less, but for someone who puts so much store in their own lyrics, Stevie should be a bit more mindful of the bandmate's. Wasn't good equals BAD. Michele
well now we all know Stevie changes lyrics at the drop of a hat. it's what she does. I don't know that she changed the lyrics to Don't Stop for any one reason or if it just happened. either way, it doesn't really make a difference...really.
danax6
10-16-2007, 01:25 PM
but, but, I tried to write you a lovesong and it came out all rainbows and fairies. please, let's try again. doesn't your heartbeat drive you ~mad~watch out for that rain. it'll haunt you for the rest of your life, but you won't know until it washes you clean. and for crying out loud, stop whining about me keeping you down.
JazmenFlowers
10-16-2007, 01:26 PM
I love you, you useless slut. :xoxo:
what are you talking about? :shrug:
And yet Stevie interprets it as both. And her interpretation of the song is what I was talking about.
I think what Stevie was saying was that at least Dreams isn't an in-your-face-ugly song as Go Your Own Way is. Dreams isn't a hopeful or love song in the classic sense, but compared to GYOW, it is.
ETA: what I'm saying is that yes, Stevie is the biggest drama queen ever and over the years, made GYOW way worse than it is. it does have sentimental elements clouded by Lindsey's bitterness, but it is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM a lovesong.
danax6
10-16-2007, 01:27 PM
I love you, you useless slut. :xoxo:That, right there, is the essence of the song. He should have named it that instead of Go Your Own Way. :wavey:
JazmenFlowers
10-16-2007, 01:29 PM
That, right there, is the essence of the song. He should have named it that instead of Go Your Own Way. :wavey:
omg, so rite.
TrueFaith77
10-16-2007, 01:39 PM
That, right there, is the essence of the song. He should have named it that instead of Go Your Own Way. :wavey:
Agreed.
"Loving you isn't the right thing to do. . ."
That's present tense. That's a love song!
carrie721
10-16-2007, 01:44 PM
where's that friggin' puking icon?
http://www.memphisracingscene.com/vb/images/smilies/mrs_puke.gif
there it is.
http://www.memphisracingscene.com/vb/images/smilies/mrs_retard.gif omg dont u lyk ~stevieeeee~~~ ?
y u gotta badmouf da ~kween~? :distress:
oh man, i can't believe i didn't say this first. what's wrong with me? :(
hold please. i'm compiling a list.
:lol:
should i be offended? :mad:
yes. i'm sick of people like you who can't carry on a serious conversation about FM. :mad:
michelej1
10-16-2007, 02:04 PM
well now we all know Stevie changes lyrics at the drop of a hat. it's what she does. I don't know that she changed the lyrics to Don't Stop for any one reason or if it just happened. either way, it doesn't really make a difference...really.
It matters to me. And changing your own lyrics is one thing, but when you're singing a band mate's song which, is in many ways, a tribute to them in absence, I think you should learn the words.
One of the reasons why I think Stevie got herself together and stopped crying long enough to finish the song in Reno is that she noticed Lindsey was singing Goodbye Baby all over the place, from the tower to the shattering lights. She was like, "Boo hoo. Sob. Wait-- what the heck is he doing?"
As for GYOW, it's a dripping love song. People should sing it at weddings! If Lindsey had sung it all sweet and croony like Wilson Phillips, Stevie would have started purring.
No, it is a love song, lost love song. You can tell someone to get out, but it hardly matters if you're asking them to come back in the next breath. Stevie recognized when she concluded that Never Going Back Again was the sweetest thing that Lindsey ever wrote for her.
Now, I don't necessarily agree that it's about her. And I don't agree with her interpretation of it, but she says that in the end he exposes his real feelings and says, why don't you come back and see me some time and she interprets that as wanting her. Well, in that sense, the love and wanting is much more explicit in GYOW than it is in NGBA. The main difference in why Stevie doesn't read it the same way is the driving music, that and the fact that she was accused of sleeping around. The beat of GYOW says get out, get out, but the bulk of the words themselves say something quite different.
As for the end of Go Insane, yeah I was kidding. I never heard him saying anything there . . . except "foamy electrician," which I imagine is a caution against Stevie blow drying her hair, while taking a bubble bath.
Michele
Sarah
10-16-2007, 02:14 PM
At the '03 SYW show in Nashville, it didn't sound to me like Stevie was playing with the words to Don't Stop. It straight up sounded like she screwed up and didn't know them. She got this weird look, too, kind of. Like one of those "I'm surprised at myself" type looks. I was embarassed for her. It's like the whole damn arena is singing along and knows the words better.
michelej1
10-16-2007, 02:33 PM
At the '03 SYW show in Nashville, it didn't sound to me like Stevie was playing with the words to Don't Stop. It straight up sounded like she screwed up and didn't know them. She got this weird look, too, kind of. Like one of those "I'm surprised at myself" type looks. I was embarassed for her. It's like the whole damn arena is singing along and knows the words better.
I saw the show twice in England, but wasn't there when Christine was. I heard a tape from that one and Stevie was really all over the place. I figured she was nervous because of Chris. Actually, I think she does get the verses mixed up accidentally, but it seemed to me like she made the conscious decision to change "was bad" to "wasn't good," because she did that pretty much the whole tour.
What I thought was cute about their performance -- aside from the way Lindsey started ending it by sweating all over Stevie's mane of hair -- was the way he would point at Stevie to share the "it will soon be here" line with him.
And speaking of pointing, I love the way Chris would point at Lindsey at the end of SYLM to do his little "ooooh" part during the Dance tour.
Michele
Sarah
10-16-2007, 02:37 PM
And speaking of pointing, I love the way Chris would point at Lindsey at the end of SYLM to do his little "ooooh" part during the Dance tour.
Michele
The "yeaaahhh-heahhh" ?? I never noticed that. I'll have to look for it!
michelej1
10-16-2007, 03:01 PM
The "yeaaahhh-heahhh" ?? I never noticed that. I'll have to look for it!
Yeah, I don't know if she does it on the official dvd, but she does it on all the bootlegs. She has the tamborine in her hands and she points at him with it. Really cute.
Michele
danax6
10-18-2007, 07:16 AM
Okay, the interview was a total snooze fest. By the time we got to "compartmentalizing" and "exercise in denial" I had fallen asleep. It's a shame, because it was clear the guy was a fan (I'll forgive him for not knowing Rumours was recorded in Sausalito), so it could have been a lot more interesting.
I don't give anything he said much credit, because he was on auto-pilot. I don't think he even realized what the interviewer was referring to when talking about Go Insane and the end of a 7-year relationship. The way he launched into his standard speech about Stevie and not getting closure makes me think he didn't even put any conscious thought into what was actually being asked. Not that I don't think that Go Insane doesn't have a little of Stevie in it, but it was obvious he wasn't putting any effort into the answer.
I did laugh when the interviewer brought up "less is more" when talking about the album Go Insane. I think he was mainly referring to the lyrics, but I still had a "hokay then!" moment.
michelej1
10-18-2007, 11:21 AM
When the interviewer described the lyrics as simplistic, I was thinking, "Ok, careful now buddy. Steer that compliment over that way a little." Walked a thin line.
Michele
michelej1
10-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Oh, and I had a bit of suspense wondering if Lindsey was going to say John or not.
He said, 'I wrote about Stevie and Christine wrote about . . . ' The pause there had me going, but he ultimately inserted Mr. McVie's name.
Michele
danax6
10-18-2007, 01:24 PM
Oh, and I had a bit of suspense wondering if Lindsey was going to say John or not.
He said, 'I wrote about Stevie and Christine wrote about . . . ' The pause there had me going, but he ultimately inserted Mr. McVie's name.
I FF'ed through everything in between the joining of Fleetwood Mac to Law & Order. I honestly could not listen to it again. But then he tricked me and started pulling Rumours talk into Go Insane talk. Bastard.
The Catdancer
10-22-2007, 12:09 PM
There's always the possibility we have different versions. I bought mine over 20 years ago when it was brand new and on my copy which I haven't listened to in more than a decade I might add, he sings, "she's a lot like you, phony musician" several times at the end of the song. Maybe it was remixed and released later with a different version? I'll give another example. In 1982 I bought Mirage on the day of its release and of course I loved and played Straight Back a million times. A few months later I made a new Stevie friend and she had purchased only the cassette version of Mirage and one day when we were listening to her tape in the car I was like,"WTF!" Her version of Straight Back was diff. than the album version!!! Are you guys aware of this fact? Soooooooooooo maybe it might be the same w/Lindsey's song, who knows? I don't even know if I have it on cassette or album, I'll have to go look and listen and then get back to ya'll.
I got mine through the record company a week before it was released and I never heard him say phony this or that. Not on the album or on the cd.
#1LiddyBuckFan
10-22-2007, 12:20 PM
It came on right before the HDnet concert tonight. I don't know when the interview was taped. It might have been done in January at the time of the concert. I'm unsure.
Michele
Seems like this interview was done around 3-28-07 in N.J...they thank the Starland Ballroom in the credits of the interview and that's the date he played that venue.
mgikallaroundme
10-22-2007, 08:31 PM
what are you talking about? :shrug:
Dreams isn't a hopeful or love song in the classic sense, but compared to GYOW, it is.
:sorry: Matter of opinion.
Exactly which lyrics do you feel are hopeful or make it a love song? :shrug:
ETA: what I'm saying is that yes, Stevie is the biggest drama queen ever and over the years, made GYOW way worse than it is. it does have sentimental elements clouded by Lindsey's bitterness, but it is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM a lovesong.
Why did Stevie call it one? :nod:
Madness Fades
10-23-2007, 05:58 AM
So I eventually got round to watching the sound off interview.
Firstly Lindsey was sitting like he had a poker up his A**. Couldnt they have provided a more relaxed chair for him.
Secondly that guy interviewing him didn't impress me much at all. He completely licked up to Lindsey all the time. Although he did revise for the inverview he still did make a mistake or two, though lindsey did correct him.
Thirdly, seriously how many times are interviewers going to continue asking Lindsey the same questions over and over again.......No wonder we keep hearing the same answers. Im sure Lindsey would love some new original questions.
In a question i recently posted "Could Lindsey Please the masses" I think he answered it here witha big NO. He said that he like the guys that are taking risks and creating something different. So thanks lindsey for answering that.
Betsy
10-23-2007, 11:10 AM
I watched the interview and what I found distracting was the interviewer....he reminded me too much of Uncle Fester, from the old TV show The Addams Family.
mylittledemon
10-23-2007, 11:15 AM
I watched the interview and what I found distracting was the interviewer....he reminded me too much of Uncle Fester, from the old TV show The Addam's Family.
is that matt pinfield? The old MTV guy?
David
10-23-2007, 12:45 PM
I did laugh when the interviewer brought up "less is more" when talking about the album Go Insane.A reference to Emperor Joseph's comment about The Marriage of Figaro: "Too many notes, my dear Mozart."
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/20/mozart_wideweb__470x300,0.jpg
michelej1
10-23-2007, 01:16 PM
I did laugh when the interviewer brought up "less is more" when talking about the album Go Insane. I think he was mainly referring to the lyrics, but I still had a "hokay then!" moment.
That's like complimenting him (or not) on the production of Hold Me by saying, "less is more."
Michele
brickney723
11-12-2013, 07:58 PM
I've got to give my man (if CAH will let me borrow him) credit. With very little prompting, he can work all of his speeches into a single interview, with rapid fire speed. All the host was saying was things like, "you're great, talk to me about that" and Lindsey would start rattling off compartmental-survival mode-Warner Bros. execs listening to Tusk for the first time phrases out of nowhere, making sure not to leave any out.
The things that stood out for me were:
1. When asked to talk about Fritz, he said that he played bass. Stevie wasn't really a lead singer so much in the band, just a vocalist. The keyboardist wrote all of the songs. Then he said that he and Stevie were not romantically involved at the time. They were just friends. Well . . . that's nice, but no one had even asked him!
2. When he inherited the money and bought music equipment with it, he said although it wasn't a large amount it also put him and Stevie in a position to not have to work, "for awhile." So, the way he said "for a while" with emphasis made it clear that the money didn't last them forever, but if you listen to Stevie, you'd think they never had any income at all except what she earned with her little hands. He brought money to the table when they started and at the end when he went on tour.
3. Instead of saying the "package deal" thing, he says that he told the band that they would have to take "my girlfriend" then he sort of cocked his head to the camera and smiled. The interviewer said that turned out to be a good idea and he agreed.
4. The interviewer said that Rhiannon was the first big hit off of the White album. I wouldn't necessarily agree. Lindsey didn't deny it. Hey, that stuff can be like a circus wheel. It changes all of the time. Sometimes, I can't help but feel that I'm wasting all of my time.
5. The interviewer said he loved Go Insane. Lindsey replied, "I do too." The interviewer indicated that GI was about his seven year relationship with CAH. Lindsey actually turned it around and made it sound like GI was about Stevie. Said breaking up with her, not getting away from her, compartmentalizing, walling up, having to produce her music which only helped her get farther away . . . He said GI was about all of that. I don't necessarily buy that. Like CAH, I do think most of it is about her, but I think it's interesting that Lindsey would spin it now.
6. Says he doesn't know if Gift of Screws was going to be the name of his solo album. He said that was a title, but some people didn't like it.
7. Interviewer asked if he started playing on a toy guitar and he said that he did, but after a year his parents bought him a three chord guitar. He listened to his parents music, because that was all they had in the house: adult music. But when his brother brought home Elvis, Patty Page went out the window. Said that they had a normal, Donna Reed household on the outside, then he'd go into his brother's room, play rock and that was what was going on behind closed doors, "under the skin."
The interviewer asked a lot of questions based on things he'd already read about Lindsey and just asked Lindsey to talk about that, rather than asking anything new. He'd tell Lindsey things about himself like, "You're a big fan of Laurie Anderson." And Lindsey would just nod sagely. If the guy had said, "You're a God!" Lindsey would have nodded and said, "hmm hmmm."
Michele
Hi, just looking through these old threads- interesting. I didn't see/hear this particular interview, but I know he's referenced GI in regards to Nicks long before CAH's book came out in 07- i.e. the poem he used to recite to introduce the title track (1997ish), is definitely about Nicks. There's also an interview from 1987 that kind of indicates the going insane thing came about as a result of the two couples breaking up, etc. Also, looking at other interviews over the years combined with the lyrics in many of these songs says the same thing to me. I know there were interviews in 1984 which were meant to lead people to believe he was referencing his CURRENT break-up, but I think at the time, maybe he didn't want to admit that he was writing about his ex from 7 years prior- makes sense to me. I think there is one song about CAH on there, maybe two.
had fun reading through this old thread and all the back and forth... never seen that interview.
freakin' stevie nicks.
i long for a day when her name doesn't appear on the lindsey board. :distress:
some things never change ;) :lol:
michelej1
11-12-2013, 09:47 PM
Hi, just looking through these old threads- interesting. I didn't see/hear this particular interview, but I know he's referenced GI in regards to Nicks long before CAH's book came out in 07- i.e. the poem he used to recite to introduce the title track (1997ish), is definitely about Nicks.
Sardonic World aside, Lindsey has referenced CAH with regard to Go Insane long before her book came out. He never shied away from talking about Stevie either, but I think most of the album is about CAH and there is necessarily overlap between his relationship with Carol and the one with Stevie that I think also shows up. Certainly, one influenced the other and the person he was in that subsequent relationship and it also influenced the person that CAROL was.
Michele
bombaysaffires
11-12-2013, 10:33 PM
Sardonic World aside, Lindsey has referenced CAH with regard to Go Insane long before her book came out. He never shied away from talking about Stevie either, but I think most of the album is about CAH and there is necessarily overlap between his relationship with Carol and the one with Stevie that I think also shows up. Certainly, one influenced the other and the person he was in that subsequent relationship and it also influenced the person that CAROL was.
I just always thought the line "she's a lot like you" was about Stevie. Carol had a more than passing resemblance to Stevie, IMHO... same size, long blond hair, sometimes in photos if you don't get a real CLOSE look you can't always tell which one it is.... now, personality-wise, I never thought they were anything alike (not really knowing either one of them personally of course)... but what do I know
bombaysaffires
11-12-2013, 10:40 PM
There's always the possibility we have different versions. I bought mine over 20 years ago when it was brand new and on my copy which I haven't listened to in more than a decade I might add, he sings, "she's a lot like you, phony musician" several times at the end of the song. Maybe it was remixed and released later with a different version? I'll give another example. In 1982 I bought Mirage on the day of its release and of course I loved and played Straight Back a million times. A few months later I made a new Stevie friend and she had purchased only the cassette version of Mirage and one day when we were listening to her tape in the car I was like,"WTF!" Her version of Straight Back was diff. than the album version!!! Are you guys aware of this fact? Soooooooooooo maybe it might be the same w/Lindsey's song, who knows? I don't even know if I have it on cassette or album, I'll have to go look and listen and then get back to ya'll.
I actually have my original vinyl version of Mirage and the Straight Back version on there does NOT have all the layered vocals in the last third or so of the song. When I heard my friend's cassette version with all htose extra backing vocals and layer I was like wtf is this?
bombaysaffires
11-12-2013, 10:48 PM
:sorry: Matter of opinion.
Exactly which lyrics do you feel are hopeful or make it a love song? :shrug:
Why did Stevie call it one? :nod:
Because she's full of it.
She recently said that Dreams was her GYOW and Mick in another interview referred to that and how it was big of her to finally admit that. (i.e., it was her eff off song to Linds)
vivfox
11-12-2013, 10:58 PM
I actually have my original vinyl version of Mirage and the Straight Back version on there does NOT have all the layered vocals in the last third or so of the song. When I heard my friend's cassette version with all htose extra backing vocals and layer I was like wtf is this?
That's exactly what I had said, which is why you quoted me, right?
michelej1
11-12-2013, 11:02 PM
For the record, I was just playing around 6 years ago and making up phrases (like "foamy electrician") regarding the lyrics. I never really thought he said "phony musician" or anything similar.
Michele
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