Hall of Fame Nominations

[michaelD]

This is the worst batch yet!!!
Change the name to the Music Hall of Fame... Until then let's remember it's the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME:

Rock And Roll HOF
Nominations Are In
Updated 09:33 PDT Fri, Sep 28 2007
(Associated Press) Here's something Madonna can really celebrate: a nomination to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Madge joins heartland rocker John Mellencamp, the puckish rappers Beastie Boys and premier dance acts Donna Summer and Chic among the nine nominees for the hall. The five leading vote-getters will be inducted in the annual ceremony March 10, 2008 at New York's Waldorf Astoria Hotel.
The other nominees are rap pioneer Afrika Bambaataa, literate songwriter Leonard Cohen, the original British Invasion combo The Dave Clark Five and surf rock instrumentalists The Ventures.
The nominations illustrate how far the Hall of Fame has stretched its definition of rock 'n' roll to incorporate a variety of musical styles. It's certainly the case with Madonna, the Detroit-area native who burst out of New York dance clubs in the early 1980s with "Holiday" and soon became a pop culture icon. She scored 17 Top Ten hits in the 1980s alone and is due to put out an album next year, working with the likes of Timbaland and Justin Timberlake.
The Beastie Boys molded punk rock and rap into the goofy hit "(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right to Party." They became critical favorites and are still together, releasing an instrumental album this year.
Indiana's own Mellencamp can fill a barrel with rock hits like "Hurts So Good," "Pink Houses" and "R.O.C.K. in the USA." Like Chic and the Dave Clark Five, he's been nominated before without getting into the hall.
Some 500 musicians, industry professionals and journalists vote on the inductions.

[JazmenFlowers]

I don't know...

I am ok with all except Madonna. I mean, I think she should be in, but not just yet. not while people like Stevie and others aren't in there yet.

[Sarah]

The other nominees are rap pioneer Afrika Bambaataa, literate songwriter Leonard Cohen, the original British Invasion combo

Madonna - Yes. She's had a big enough impact. I like some of her early stuff okay... and I do like her voice, even if the new era of songs haven't been my favorites. I'd say she's deserving.

Beastie Boys - Yes. They've had an impact, and the last time I was at the RRHoF&M there was an exhibit about turntabilism, freestyle, etc.. Beastie Boys fit perfectly with the artists that were honored in that, so I'd say there's a place for them as well.

Mellencamp - No. No, no, no. Just no. Boring. Generic. No impact. No inspiration. Please go away. Just go the hell away.

Donna Summer - I'm on the fence here. Part of me says yes, part of me says no. I think there needs to be a dance music hall of fame, tbh... but that kind of goes against what dance music is about... celebrating the underground, etc.

Chic - No. Nile Rodgers, absolutely hell yes... but as a producer. Yes, Chic songs were good, but there are other dance/funk acts on the same level. I personally believe they're only getting the nod because of Nile. He is deserving in that, anyone he works with and everything he does is going to sound good. Any other collection of people would have the hits that Chic did because of him. That's jmo.


The Dave Clark Five - Absolutely. WTF took so long?

The Ventures - *hell yes*. This is what the RRHoF is about.

Afrika Bambaataa - I have to say yes, but really just because I said yes to the Beastie Boys. Admitting the BBs and leaving out a true, early, rap/hip hop pioneer like Bambaataa would be a slap in the face to the genre. I'm glad they have some respect, even if the tracks are farrrr too old school for me to enjoy.

Leonard Cohen - I'm saying no, just because I can't stand his voice, but whatever. Gotta have one for the snobs. ;)

[HejiraNYC]

Madge joins heartland rocker John Mellencamp, the puckish rappers Beastie Boys and premier dance acts Donna Summer and Chic among the nine nominees for the hall. The five leading vote-getters will be inducted in the annual ceremony March 10, 2008 at New York's Waldorf Astoria Hotel.
The other nominees are rap pioneer Afrika Bambaataa, literate songwriter Leonard Cohen, the original British Invasion combo The Dave Clark Five and surf rock instrumentalists The Ventures.

Um... I thought that, in order to be eligible, you had to have released your first recording at least 25 years earlier. Did I miss something? I believe the Beastie Boys' first album was "Licensed to Ill" in 1987. If they released something in 1982, I certainly am not aware of it. :shrug:

[SteveMacD]

I can think of even more bands not in who should be before this bumper crop of losers, save maybe for Cat Stevens.

Iggy & The Stooges
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
Rush
The Guess Who (or at least Randy Bachman)
Kiss

[Villavic]

Donna Summer has more than 25 years of career. She should be inducted since long ago
Cool if she finally is!

[Nixxxed]

Um... I thought that, in order to be eligible, you had to have released your first recording at least 25 years earlier. Did I miss something? I believe the Beastie Boys' first album was "Licensed to Ill" in 1987. If they released something in 1982, I certainly am not aware of it. :shrug:
I read on another site that the Beastie Boys released their first EP in 82. I think it would be interesting if Madonna and BB got in at the same time, given:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/POP/WB8371~Madonna-with-Special-Guests-Beastie-Boys-And-Run-DMC-Posters.jpg

[buckymcnix]

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Mellencamp - No. No, no, no. Just no. Boring. Generic. No impact. No inspiration. Please go away. Just go the hell away.


those who live in pink houses shouldn't throw stones right?

I never was a big fan but i do know alot of his radio stuff and i can certainly see your point but . . . {big argumentative storm clouds blowing in} . . .
Though he didn't really make a big connection with me i feel he has had a big impact on the Farm Aid Circuit and he really has quite a following of people that he has connected to and worked to help them. Maybe i wouldn't let him in on music alone personally, but there are many folks who swear by him and who he seems to have impacted and he seems a decent dude so i say open up and let him in.
plus he is closer to rock and roll than most on that list.

won't you melt your ice cold heart? :lol:

I can think of even more bands not in who should be before this bumper crop of losers, save maybe for Cat Stevens.

Iggy & The Stooges
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
Rush
The Guess Who (or at least Randy Bachman)
Kiss

holy crap steve - what the hell are you smoking dude?
Rock bands getting inducted into a rock and roll hall of fame?

that is an interesting concept you have but it doesn't seem to be the way it works huh?. :lol::lol:

[amber]

Mellencamp - No. No, no, no. Just no. Boring. Generic. No impact. No inspiration. Please go away. Just go the hell away.
No. Wrong. CougieMellenball has had many, many deep thoughts disguised as paprock. Pink Houses is sublime. Only album I ever saw my mom buy, and she is purposefully non shallow.

Truth be spoken simply but sublimely by CougyMellenball. Lyrics to Pink Houses and Jack and Diane rate among the best, in addition to some of his other lyrics which do so also, but not as notably. Plus, he just rocks. It's just plain good rock, with good words. Not so simple as to be inconsequential, not deep enough to be nerd/esoteric rock.

Just. Perfect. Regular. Rock. Plainspoken good sounding. Deep without obviously seeming so. It's real, it's a genre, it's valuable and talented. He has good bands and good backup singers.
You don't always have to send up fireworks to make a great point with a great sound. You don't always have to flip and complicate your words to make them meaningful (Linds!).

And that - THAT! - is the essence of Cougarmelloncamp. Clean, simple, good, yet subtly compelling in it's simplicity, and apropos (true) in his points.

Plus great harmonies, melodies, and bandwork. He really is a prime example of simple yet great rock. :shrug:
Sorry, if people mess with the Melloncougar, I have to defend. In part because he is easy to discount, but not deserving of discounting. Go back, listen to Papah and Fiyah. My god, the point he is making with the words, and the chick he chose to do a fantastic harmony on it! Extremely compelling. And the notes his band played, and the notes he sang. Truly great. This song makes me think every time I hear it, and it also makes me rock. Think and rock. Just pure joy.

Listen to the lyrics of Pink Houses (a personal anthem of mine). Look me in the eye and tell me that life doesn't go on even after the thrill of livin' is gone. Do it. Try. Try to resist the beat and the voice when the Walls Come Tumblin' Down. And try to pretend that his duet with Me'Shell Ndegeocello on the Van Morrison classic wasn't a good idea. Me'Shell is playing here in a couple days, she is a huge talent, I will see her, his decision to play with her was flawless.
Gold. I urge anyone to revisit his words, even if they don't like his sound. Simple depth, is what he espouses. Plainspoken truth, in a just clever enough to be subtley original. Plainspoken yet original, could you ask for more?
Plus, he is a Libra like Linds, and Bruce, and Tom P, and...uh...Gwen...and...superfluous aside over. Just saying, he isn't as simple as he seems. And I should know. You know how TP makes the most regular points, yet it has so much emotional resonance? Yeah, like that.

Sorry, I just love the Cougarmellon. I see his limitations, but I think I recognize his value more than most, and it is real. In short, don't mess with the CougieMellon unless you want an argument. :laugh:

Donna Summer - I'm on the fence here. Part of me says yes, part of me says no. I think there needs to be a dance music hall of fame, tbh... but that kind of goes against what dance music is about... celebrating the underground, etc.
She's totally in, but not before Stevie. Not in anyone's imagination. Both have awesome vocal virtuosity, but Stevie has even more than that.

Chic - No. Nile Rodgers, absolutely hell yes... but as a producer. Yes, Chic songs were good, but there are other dance/funk acts on the same level. I personally believe they're only getting the nod because of Nile. He is deserving in that, anyone he works with and everything he does is going to sound good. Any other collection of people would have the hits that Chic did because of him. That's jmo.
Yes, but not before some others.


The Dave Clark Five - Absolutely. WTF took so long?

The Ventures - *hell yes*. This is what the RRHoF is about.

Afrika Bambaataa - I have to say yes, but really just because I said yes to the Beastie Boys. Admitting the BBs and leaving out a true, early, rap/hip hop pioneer like Bambaataa would be a slap in the face to the genre. I'm glad they have some respect, even if the tracks are farrrr too old school for me to enjoy.
Worthy, for sure, but not before some others.

Leonard Cohen - I'm saying no, just because I can't stand his voice, but whatever. Gotta have one for the snobs. ;)
I'm not sure anyone is legally allowed to leave out Cohen, L. It's like that thing where you may disagree, but you can't really fight it. It almost has the weight of a legal prohibition. :laugh:

[amber]

Mellencamp - No. No, no, no. Just no. Boring. Generic. No impact. No inspiration. Please go away. Just go the hell away.
No. Wrong. CougieMellenball has had many, many deep thoughts disguised as paprock. Pink Houses is sublime. Only album I ever saw my mom buy, and she is purposefully non shallow.

Truth be spoken simply but sublimely by CougyMellenball. Lyrics to Pink Houses and Jack and Diane rate among the best, in addition to some of his other lyrics which do so also, but not as notably. Plus, he just rocks. It's just plain good rock, with good words. Not so simple as to be inconsequential, not deep enough to be nerd/esoteric rock.

Just. Perfect. Regular. Rock. Plainspoken good sounding. Deep without obviously seeming so. It's real, it's a genre, it's valuable and talented. He has good bands and good backup singers.
You don't always have to send up fireworks to make a great point with a great sound. You don't always have to flip and complicate your words to make them meaningful (Linds!).

And that - THAT! - is the essence of Cougarmelloncamp. Clean, simple, good, yet subtly compelling in it's simplicity, and apropos (true) in his points.

Plus great harmonies, melodies, and bandwork. He really is a prime example of simple yet great rock. :shrug:
Sorry, if people mess with the Melloncougar, I have to defend. In part because he is easy to discount, but not deserving of discounting. Go back, listen to Papah and Fiyah. My god, the point he is making with the words, and the chick he chose to do a fantastic harmony on it! Extremely compelling. And the notes his band played, and the notes he sang. Truly great. This song makes me think every time I hear it, and it also makes me rock. Think and rock. Just pure joy.

Listen to the lyrics of Pink Houses (a personal anthem of mine). Look me in the eye and tell me that life doesn't go on even after the thrill of livin' is gone. Do it. Try. Try to resist the beat and the voice when the Walls Come Tumblin' Down. And try to pretend that his duet with Me'Shell Ndegeocello on the Van Morrison classic wasn't a good idea. Me'Shell is playing here in a couple days, she is a huge talent, I will see her, his decision to play with her was flawless.
Gold. I urge anyone to revisit his words, even if they don't like his sound.

Simple depth, is what he espouses. Plainspoken truth, in a just clever enough to be original way. Normaln and easily accessible, yet original, could you ask for more?
Plus, he is a Libra like Linds, and Bruce, and Tom P, and...uh...Gwen...and...superfluous aside over. Just saying, he isn't as simple as he seems. And I should know. You know how TP makes the most regular points, yet it has so much emotional resonance? Yeah, like that.

Sorry, I just love the Cougarmellon. I see his limitations, but I think I recognize his value more than most, and it is real. In short, don't mess with the CougieMellon unless you want an argument. :laugh:

Donna Summer - I'm on the fence here. Part of me says yes, part of me says no. I think there needs to be a dance music hall of fame, tbh... but that kind of goes against what dance music is about... celebrating the underground, etc.
She's totally in, but not before Stevie. Not in anyone's imagination. Both have awesome vocal virtuosity, but Stevie has even more than that.

Chic - No. Nile Rodgers, absolutely hell yes... but as a producer. Yes, Chic songs were good, but there are other dance/funk acts on the same level. I personally believe they're only getting the nod because of Nile. He is deserving in that, anyone he works with and everything he does is going to sound good. Any other collection of people would have the hits that Chic did because of him. That's jmo.
Yes, but not before some others.


The Dave Clark Five - Absolutely. WTF took so long?

The Ventures - *hell yes*. This is what the RRHoF is about.

Afrika Bambaataa - I have to say yes, but really just because I said yes to the Beastie Boys. Admitting the BBs and leaving out a true, early, rap/hip hop pioneer like Bambaataa would be a slap in the face to the genre. I'm glad they have some respect, even if the tracks are farrrr too old school for me to enjoy.
Worthy, for sure, but not before some others.

Leonard Cohen - I'm saying no, just because I can't stand his voice, but whatever. Gotta have one for the snobs. ;)
I'm not sure anyone is legally allowed to leave out Cohen, L. It's like that thing where you may disagree, but you can't really fight it. It almost has the weight of a legal prohibition. :laugh:

[rbs3676]

Leonard Cohen? Fantastic!! :blob1::blob2:
He is, without a doubt, one of the great poets of our generation.
A true legend. :wavey:

rbs

[estranged4life]

The Beastie Boys originally started off as a 4 piece punk rock band back in 1981, so they did release independent albums before they took off for bigger/better things.

[David]

The thinking seems to be, among some fans & members of the voting panel, that if you've done your time (25 years), you get inducted. Won't virtually all recognizable names sooner or later be inducted? Outside of marketing & brouhaha & a TV show you can broadcast every year, I just don't see what the actual purpose is to this hall of fame. Traditionally, halls of fame are reserved for the cream of the crop, the best of the best, whether it's baseball or music or fiction-writing. You can always argue about the choices; there's no last word. But if you look at the inductees from 1986 to 2000, just about every act with a name is there. The same thing is liable to be true for the 1970s & the 1980s when enough time has passed.

[Sarah]

lmao, I am not going to argue back and forth with you over my opinion on each of these artists.

I understand you guys wanting Stevie in before a bunch of these other ladies, but, well, she's in with FM. It'd be dope to have her in as a solo artist, but realistically... you want her to have 2 inductions before some others even get 1.

I think think Mellencamp's version of "rock" is incredibly generic. I understand your point about FarmAid or whatever else, and that's good.. but I'm talking musical merit here. And if you want to argue that he had one sublime album, that's fine too, but I think these nominations should take the entire body of work into account. And to my ears, they really just are not that good. And that's what I'm posting about.. "if i was in charge of the inductions". Especially when there are so many other artists who haven't made it in yet, as Steve MacD mentioned. It's a crime that those groups have been left off.

I wish they'd just go ahead and build onto the damn hall of fame museum to add new wings.. dance hall of fame, pop hall of fame, whatever else. Because some of this **** just isn't rock and roll.

The thing with Leonard Cohen.. he deserves it for truckin' as long as he is. But srsly, his voice drives me absolutely insane. It's like Dylan.. I love the way they put things together, but GD i wish they'd let somebody else do the vocal. That's not to take away from their merit.. it's just a personal preference issue.

[buckymcnix]

The thinking seems to be, among some fans & members of the voting panel, that if you've done your time (25 years), you get inducted. Won't virtually all recognizable names sooner or later be inducted? Outside of marketing & brouhaha & a TV show you can broadcast every year, I just don't see what the actual purpose is to this hall of fame. Traditionally, halls of fame are reserved for the cream of the crop, the best of the best, whether it's baseball or music or fiction-writing. You can always argue about the choices; there's no last word. But if you look at the inductees from 1986 to 2000, just about every act with a name is there. The same thing is liable to be true for the 1970s & the 1980s when enough time has passed.
it really does seem like all you need to do is have one memorable album and wait your 25 years and you are in.
it is more like a musical history project than a hall of fame -

I think think Mellencamp's version of "rock" is incredibly generic. I understand your point about FarmAid or whatever else, and that's good.. but I'm talking musical merit here. And if you want to argue that he had one sublime album, that's fine too, but I think these nominations should take the entire body of work into account. And to my ears, they really just are not that good. And that's what I'm posting about.. "if i was in charge of the inductions". Especially when there are so many other artists who haven't made it in yet, as Steve MacD mentioned. It's a crime that those groups have been left off.

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i agree that it really should be on the body of work and kept to rock and roll or at least split up like you say sarah - a diff. wing for each genre.

[GarboSpeaks!]

I was reading thru this, scrolling down, PRAYING there would be a Ledgie that posted before me giving Cohen his props. LOVE him. Have like maybe 2 things of his, but OMFG do I love Leonard Cohen. And yes, I am a poser, had I not seen the mega blockbuster smash hit starring Christian Slater "Pump Up The Volume" featuring Concrete Blonde's ode to Cohen, I'd never have been any wiser. :o :p

[darklinensuit]

I think Hurts So Good is pretty much crap, & songs like ROCK In The USA, The Authority Song, and Hand To Hold Onto are catchy enough, but that's about all there is to them.

But Mellencamp still deserves HOF.
Rain On The Scarecrow, Crumblin' Down, Jackie Brown, Human Wheels, and even Peaceful World are on a whole other level, combining a great sound with some lyrical depth, and Paper In Fire is one of my very favorite songs. Scarecrow & The Lonesome Jubilee are classics.

Also, from what I've read (in fairness, not being a musician myself), his big-drum sound was pretty influential for a while, and IMO a Hall of Famer should have made a mark. Plus he has a distinct style; his music evokes Americana more than any recent rocker's, IMO, including Springsteen's.

As a side note (and as I've said before), I'd love to hear Stevie do some work with him. If he can harmonize with India Arie, I think his voice with Stevie's would be pretty amazing - scratch meets scratch. Plus he might get her away from all those keyboards & overproduction that have plagued her recent albums, IMO.

Oh, and 20 years ago, when my 1st college roommate & I wanted to drive each other crazy, he'd blast Beastie Boys' Girls (To Do The Dishes) & I'd fight back with Gate And Garden (which is not a favorite of mine, but he absolutely hated it).:cool:

- Jake

[SteveMacD]

it really does seem like all you need to do is have one memorable album and wait your 25 years and you are in.
Tell that to the folks from Birmingham, England. Christine McVie was the chief hitmaker for a band that has sold close to 100 MILLION albums, and it took six years before they were inducted. It took Black Sabbath ELEVEN years, and it took Traffic TWELVE years (both criminal, IMO, but at least we got to see Jim Capaldi on top of the world just a few months prior to his passing). Really, if the one memorable album in 25 years thing were true, Yes, Genesis, Rush, King Crimson, the Guess Who/Bachman-Turner Overdrive, AC/DC, Grand Funk Railroad, Iggy & The Stooges, Big Star, and Kiss would be in. (And, man, would that be a way better show.) All I'm saying is that I don't think it's an accident that the head of the HOF is also head of Sire records, which just so happens to be Madonna's label.

[Sarah]

Really, if the one memorable album in 25 years thing were true, Yes, Genesis, Rush, King Crimson, the Guess Who/Bachman-Turner Overdrive, AC/DC, Grand Funk Railroad, Iggy & The Stooges, Big Star, and Kiss would be in. (And, man, would that be a way better show.) All I'm saying is that I don't think it's an accident that the head of the HOF is also head of Sire records, which just so happens to be Madonna's label.

Ding ding ding ding ding.

And so we know that.. sure, artists consider it an honor to be inducted.. but as fans, we can't put too much weight on the nominations because they do seem to be industry political.

For me, the only merit that the RRHoF has is the museum in Cleveland. I've heard some people complain about it before, but I think it's the illest house on either side of the Mississippi. There are so many awesome relics displayed there; I'm just glad it's open for the public to check out all these cool pieces, and that they're being kept safe. If you haven't been and get the chance, go. Stop and watch any of the little films they have. Whether you agree with the inductee choices or not, it's still a cool experience.

[danax6]

The thing with Leonard Cohen.. he deserves it for truckin' as long as he is. But srsly, his voice drives me absolutely insane. It's like Dylan.. I love the way they put things together, but GD i wish they'd let somebody else do the vocal. That's not to take away from their merit.. it's just a personal preference issue.You wound me, Sarah. :distress:

[kathy1]

i like donna summer and madonna. i am glad that donna summer is getting in.

[Sarah]

You wound me, Sarah. :distress:

It was intentional. ;)

[buckymcnix]

i like donna summer and madonna. i am glad that donna summer is getting in.

Not IN yet, it's only the nominations right?

[xdreamsunwindx]

I'm actually pleased with this year's nominations. The Dave Clark Five, The Ventures, Beastie Boys, Bambaata, Cohen - all fabulous choices. As for Madge, sorry, but she's made more of an impact than Stevie Nicks, so I don't see any problem with her being inducted right away. More people recognize "Madonna" than "Stevie," it's a given fact. Does Stevie Nicks have a piercing named after her? Halloween costumes designed and marketed based on her image? No. Both cultural icons, but it's fairly obvious that Madge is more of a household name.

*puts on rubber bracelets and fingerless lace gloves*

WHAT?

K

[David]

But Mellencamp still deserves HOF.
Rain On The Scarecrow, Crumblin' Down, Jackie Brown, Human Wheels, and even Peaceful World are on a whole other level, combining a great sound with some lyrical depth, and Paper In Fire is one of my very favorite songs. Scarecrow & The Lonesome Jubilee are classics.I like some of those songs. Stevie sang Cherry Bomb & Real Life & I think Check It Out with John & his band at the L.A. Sports Arena. She came out & twirled & sang with all her heart. Those are great songs. John had a couple of ladies playing fiddle in his band. It was a fine display of mainstream rock & roll.

[darklinensuit]

I like some of those songs. Stevie sang Cherry Bomb & Real Life & I think Check It Out with John & his band at the L.A. Sports Arena. She came out & twirled & sang with all her heart. Those are great songs. John had a couple of ladies playing fiddle in his band. It was a fine display of mainstream rock & roll.

When? Are there recordings?

- Jake

[rubytuesday]

I'm actually pleased with this year's nominations. The Dave Clark Five, The Ventures, Beastie Boys, Bambaata, Cohen - all fabulous choices. As for Madge, sorry, but she's made more of an impact than Stevie Nicks, so I don't see any problem with her being inducted right away. More people recognize "Madonna" than "Stevie," it's a given fact. Does Stevie Nicks have a piercing named after her? Halloween costumes designed and marketed based on her image? No. Both cultural icons, but it's fairly obvious that Madge is more of a household name.

*puts on rubber bracelets and fingerless lace gloves*

WHAT?

KYeah I agree. Madonna has made a much bigger impact than Stevie Nicks has.

[darklinensuit]

"So I'm not gonna alienate the whole world just to be very famous. You know, a real good example is like, I suppose 15 years ago, if I'd have wanted to really go for it, in the same way that, say, Madonna did, I could have done that. And I could have been much more famous than I am now and much richer. but it never mattered to me that much about winning thousands of awards or having a hundred Number One singles. It has never mattered to me to be a sex symbol."

:lol: :lol: Sorry, couldn't resist. I know it's BS.

- Jake

[michaelD]

Is Madonna ROCK AND ROLL????
Nope.

Change the name to the Music Hall of Fame, and she would get in.

It's about ROCK MUSIC. Stevie will get in a solo artist someday we hope.

[rubytuesday]

Is Madonna ROCK AND ROLL????
Nope.

Change the name to the Music Hall of Fame, and she would get in.

It's about ROCK MUSIC. Stevie will get in a solo artist someday we hope.ARen't most of the artists inducted from sub-genres of rock and roll anyway? Stevie isn't really rock and roll either if you're going to refer to the technical terms. It should be a music hall of fame but if it's about rock music as you said then shouldn't it be the rock hall of fame not the rock and roll hall of fame? I don't think they should get too technical with what is rock and roll and what isn't 'cause there'd be even fewere choices then.

[UnwindedDreams]

Stevie isn't really rock and roll either if you're going to refer to the technical terms.
Are you serious? Do you hear Madonna on rock stations? I don't. Stevie may be more pop but I know Madonna isn't rock. Like A Virgin and Like A Prayer don't rock me.

[JazmenFlowers]

I don't care what you say or what your reasoning is, Stevie should be in before Madonna. period.

[Sarah]

But Stevie has already been inducted! Just because she was inducted with other members of Fleetwood Mac doesn't make the fact that she is in there any less significant. She has been recognized as a rock artist! How many other inductees have had solo careers after a band and been put in again twice? Just Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson as far as I know. And in my opinion, a second induction is taking a slot from other deserving artists. I can see someone not wanting a particular artist to go in... but because they want someone else to be in TWICE is selfish.

Just because you want her to be broadcast on a cable special doing Stand Back.. again? ;)

[SteveMacD]

How many other inductees have had solo careers after a band and been put in again twice? Just Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson as far as I know.

John Lennon
George Harrison
Eric Clapton (who's in there three times: Yardbirds, Cream, and solo)
Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield and solo)


-ON THAT SAME NOTE: Some other multiple inductees-

Stephen Stills (Buffalo Springfied and Crosby Stills & Nash)
David Crosby (Byrds and Crosby Stills and Nash)
Jimmy Page (Yardbirds and Led Zepplin)

[Sarah]

John Lennon
George Harrison
Eric Clapton (who's in there three times: Yardbirds, Cream, and solo)
Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield and solo)


-ON THAT SAME NOTE: Some other multiple inductees-

Stephen Stills (Buffalo Springfied and Crosby Stills & Nash)
David Crosby (Byrds and Crosby Stills and Nash)
Jimmy Page (Yardbirds and Led Zepplin)

Thanks for that. :thumbsup:

I don't see Stevie getting in with that group as a multiple. :shrug:

[David]

Eric Clapton (who's in there three times: Yardbirds, Cream, and solo)Why don't they just turn over the keys to the place to him?

[rubytuesday]

Are you serious? Do you hear Madonna on rock stations? I don't. Stevie may be more pop but I know Madonna isn't rock. Like A Virgin and Like A Prayer don't rock me.

You're talking about a sub-genre of rock music. I was being specific about rock 'n' roll which it says it's about, like Chuck Berry rock 'n' roll. Just being technical because if we're going to be technical about a rock 'n' roll hall of fame then it would be get very hard to find artists who were actually rock 'n' roll. Most of the artists in their aren't rock 'n' roll anyway so it seems like it's just about the impact the artist has had and Madonna has had more impact than Stevie.