I Know I'm Not Wrong

[UndoingTheLaces]

Does anyone have any info or stories on this little gem? I always loved this song. I felt it was odd that the version on the first CD pressing was vastly different than the original. They put the original on the remastered CD, I think, although I actually liked the one from the first CD.

[trackaghost]

Are you sure? The vinyl version is vastly different but as far as I'm aware the CD versions have all been the same. I wish someone would post a good rip of the vinyl version, I've always prefered it.

[carrie721]

^ if i figure out how to use my USB record player (that i've had for 2 months :laugh: ), i'll do that this weekend :)

[trackaghost]

Put the USB record player to good use, Carrie, and get me that MP3!!! :mad:


(thank you! :xoxo: )

[Sarah]

^ if i figure out how to use my USB record player (that i've had for 2 months :laugh: ), i'll do that this weekend :)

not to get OT, but what kind do you have? i've been looking for one.

and, do you know.. if you set it and, say, let it play the entire record.. does it follow the track groove and separate each track individually as it records it, or is it straight into one long file that you have to separate? i think some of the older ones couldn't separate. i've found one that will go to cd and separate, but i'd prefer directly to .wav or whatever else.

[carrie721]

Put the USB record player to good use, Carrie, and get me that MP3!!! :mad:


(thank you! :xoxo: )

:mad: hatechu sharon.

not to get OT, but what kind do you have? i've been looking for one.

and, do you know.. if you set it and, say, let it play the entire record.. does it follow the track groove and separate each track individually as it records it, or is it straight into one long file that you have to separate? i think some of the older ones couldn't separate. i've found one that will go to cd and separate, but i'd prefer directly to .wav or whatever else.

i'm gonna hook it up right now and find out! i'll let you know.

oh, and it's the ion iTTUSB.

[danax6]

^ if i figure out how to use my USB record player (that i've had for 2 months :laugh: ), i'll do that this weekend :)I seriously need to get me one of those also. How much did you spend on it?

LOL, and now for something completely random. I was just listening to the radio and Mark Lennon from Venice was talking about how when he was young he could only do Fleetwood Mac covers of Stevie Nicks songs, because he had that really high nasal little boy's voice. He then proceeded to sing Dreams with that voice. Totally cracked me up.

[carrie721]

I seriously need to get me one of those also. How much did you spend on it?

LOL, and now for something completely random. I was just listening to the radio and Mark Lennon from Venice was talking about how when he was young he could only do Fleetwood Mac covers of Stevie Nicks songs, because he had that really high nasal little boy's voice. He then proceeded to sing Dreams with that voice. Totally cracked me up.

it was a gift, so i'm not quite sure ... i think they spent around $140 on it, though.

and lol. :laugh: :laugh: poor stevie :laugh:

ok, woot! i got it to work! it was so easy to do. here's the original IKINW: http://www.mediafire.com/?8thxe4f21so

and sarah - it does it as one big file, but with the program i'm using (audacity) it's not hard to split them up.

[trackaghost]

Awesome! Thank you Carrie!

[David]

Does anyone have any info or stories on this little gem? I always loved this song.I checked Madnessfades.net & didn't see any commentary by the composer, & I don't remember anything else offhand. Some fans group this song -- I guess thematically -- with Not That Funny. Two sides of a coin, I guess. I think it has more in common with Save Me a Place in terms of pleading quality, tunefulness & warmth, despite the difference in tempo (which in itself creates varied emotional response). IKINW doesn't have that severely abrasive quality lyrically or musically, which is the essence of NTF. In the latter, the repetitive moving from tonic to subdominant & then from subdominant to dominant makes me think "pushing & shoving," emphasized by the deliberately unbeautiful vocal. But IKINW is more searching & yearning in its chord progression & in the temporal chord values: the chord changes seem to me to be engaging in a dialectic with the lyrics & the pretty melody line of the vocal. Fleetwood Mac rehearsed it in 1979 but I never had a concert recording of it from that time. It may have been tried at some point on tour, possibly in Europe (like That's Enough for Me), but I haven't found a record of it. (I've learned never to second-guess the Tusk tour.) As you probably know, Fleetwood did it live in 2004, but by that time, the band was no longer a chamber ensemble. It was a committee.

[Sarah]

As you probably know, Fleetwood did it live in 2004, but by that time, the band was no longer a chamber ensemble. It was a committee.

Too funny. :laugh:

[AliceLover]

I checked Madnessfades.net & didn't see any commentary by the composer, & I don't remember anything else offhand. Some fans group this song -- I guess thematically -- with Not That Funny. Two sides of a coin, I guess. I think it has more in common with Save Me a Place in terms of pleading quality, tunefulness & warmth, despite the difference in tempo (which in itself creates varied emotional response). IKINW doesn't have that severely abrasive quality lyrically or musically, which is the essence of NTF. In the latter, the repetitive moving from tonic to subdominant & then from subdominant to dominant makes me think "pushing & shoving," emphasized by the deliberately unbeautiful vocal. But IKINW is more searching & yearning in its chord progression & in the temporal chord values: the chord changes seem to me to be engaging in a dialectic with the lyrics & the pretty melody line of the vocal. Fleetwood Mac rehearsed it in 1979 but I never had a concert recording of it from that time. It may have been tried at some point on tour, possibly in Europe (like That's Enough for Me), but I haven't found a record of it. (I've learned never to second-guess the Tusk tour.) As you probably know, Fleetwood did it live in 2004, but by that time, the band was no longer a chamber ensemble. It was a committee.

It was done better on Lindseys tour with just the four guys. I thought it was 10 times better.

[David]

It was done better on Lindseys tour with just the four guys. I thought it was 10 times better.I didn't catch the Lindsey tour. I hear he pulled out all the stops -- an expression that comes from organ playing.

http://www.stolaf.edu/church/chapel/organ/stops.jpg http://www.keyboardworld.net/images/lowrey_organ.jpg

[kathy1]

i am sorry but i have never heard of that song. what album is that from?

[brass_monkey]

Thanks for this Carrie. IKINW is probably my all-time favourite Lindsey song. It's so stripped-down and catchy, I just love it.

and sarah - it does it as one big file, but with the program i'm using (audacity) it's not hard to split them up.

I haven't used Audacity, but be careful when editing files that are already compressed, like MP3s. Most audio editing programs will recompress the resulting audio when you save it, so you'll get a worse quality sound file as a result. If you're recording from vinyl, save the original unedited file as uncompressed audio (e.g. WAV format) and then split it into individual tracks afterwards. If you only have a compressed source file (e.g. MP3) then you can use the freeware mp3DirectCut (http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html) to split it without recompressing the output.

[carrie721]

^ thanks for the info :) splitting the WAV file & then converting those individually into MP3 should avoid the re-compression issue, right?

[Sarah]

i am sorry but i have never heard of that song. what album is that from?

It's on Tusk, Kathy.

[shackin'up]

I checked Madnessfades.net & didn't see any commentary by the composer, & I don't remember anything else offhand. Some fans group this song -- I guess thematically -- with Not That Funny. Two sides of a coin, I guess. I think it has more in common with Save Me a Place in terms of pleading quality, tunefulness & warmth, despite the difference in tempo (which in itself creates varied emotional response). IKINW doesn't have that severely abrasive quality lyrically or musically, which is the essence of NTF. In the latter, the repetitive moving from tonic to subdominant & then from subdominant to dominant makes me think "pushing & shoving," emphasized by the deliberately unbeautiful vocal. But IKINW is more searching & yearning in its chord progression & in the temporal chord values: the chord changes seem to me to be engaging in a dialectic with the lyrics & the pretty melody line of the vocal. Fleetwood Mac rehearsed it in 1979 but I never had a concert recording of it from that time. It may have been tried at some point on tour, possibly in Europe (like That's Enough for Me), but I haven't found a record of it. (I've learned never to second-guess the Tusk tour.) As you probably know, Fleetwood did it live in 2004, but by that time, the band was no longer a chamber ensemble. It was a committee.

Well, through all the cocky snoblanguage this is pure truth. I'm so glad you're back David. I ALWAYS play NTF and IKINW back to back when I feel like hearing one of them. ( normally, I play Tusk in it's entirety-because it's the best album ever recorded by anyone )

[Chrislit18]

Well, through all the cocky snoblanguage this is pure truth. I'm so glad you're back David. I ALWAYS play NTF and IKINW back to back when I feel like hearing one of them. ( normally, I play Tusk in it's entirety-because it's the best album ever recorded by anyone )
So true, so true

They are both on my favorite LB songs list.

[elie]

I Know I 'm Not Wrong and What makes you think you're the one are my two favorite Lindsey songs :)

[mylittledemon]

It is indeed a great song. Hearing it on the SYW tour was fantastico!

[kathy1]

thanks sarah i have to listen to it.

[Betsy]

ok, woot! i got it to work! it was so easy to do. here's the original IKINW: http://www.mediafire.com/?8thxe4f21so



Thanks Carrie for the vinyl version. :cool: (You're a pal!) :cool:

They make a USB turntable/record player?

One can sure get an education in technology here on the Ledge...

[carrie721]

Thanks Carrie for the vinyl version. :cool: (You're a pal!) :cool:

They make a USB turntable/record player?

One can sure get an education in technology here on the Ledge...

you're welcome!

yes, they exist ... and they're awesome! :)

[Janis_no1]

Im listening to the Vinyl version, I didn't know wither that there was a different version on the vinyl vs the cd version of the vinyl!! They should be allowed to do that! So i notioced no Stevie accompanying vocals, which i like.

Yes i also love this Lindsey song... i've never thought about my favourite Lindsey songs though,.... i know there is one of Mirage i like.... um um maybe empire state of eyes of the world, cant recall

[Moony]

Thanks for posting this, Carrie, I've never heard the vinyl version.

I gotta say I do prefer the CD version though.

[Janis_no1]

It is indeed a great song. Hearing it on the SYW tour was fantastico!
like your tattoo!!

[UndoingTheLaces]

Wow, thanks for all the info. I've noticed the connection with Not That Funny, especially the lines "here comes the nightime, looking for a little more...". That reminded me of Stevie sharing the "downstairs where the stars all laugh and shine" in both Blue Lamp and "Welcome to the Room, Sara".

The CD version sounds to me like one channel is the original mix while the other is a different mix, and they just sort of linked them together.

[Azzar]

It's a brilliant song, i wasn't around in the 70's , im only 18. But I do own everything i could get my hands on.
Ive always heard the early versions of the song and i feel that another song could have been made from that.
It seems such a waste to not use it, it's on the demos version of Tusk and is called "Lindseys song #1"
Has anyone else got a view on this?