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ShangriLaTroubl
08-28-2007, 10:16 AM
I don't know about you guys, but when a possible tour is "looming" I'm always thinking of possible setlists. I have a feeling Fleetwood Mac may tour next year after Lindsey releases his next album. Afterall, the other night at Stevie's last solo show in AC she did say "See you next year!"

So wishful thinking? Maybe, but I would love to see the Mac again soon. I thought you could all share your possible wishlist setlists for the next Mac tour. Rule is, you can't go over 26 songs, and put them in the order you would like them to be in.

Here's mine:

Monday Morning
The Chain
Gypsy
Dreams
Eyes of the World
Silver Springs
Second Hand News
Angel
Gold Dust Woman
Murrow Turning Over in His Grave
Thrown Down
Rhiannon
Big Love
Trouble (acoustic – Lindsey solo)
Landslide
Never Goin Back Again (acoustic w/ Stevie)
Storms (acoustic – Lindsey, Mick and John)
I’m So Afraid
Stand Back
Tusk
World Turning
Go Your Own Way
Don’t Stop
Don’t Let Me Down Again
Say You Love Me (Lindsey and Stevie duet)
Crystal (Lindsey and Stevie duet)

chiliD
08-28-2007, 10:40 AM
Oh Well
The Chain
Dreams
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Gold Dust Woman
Show You How
Illume
Red Rover (or Try For The Sun)
Landslide
I Am Waiting (or Castaway Dreams)
Rhiannon
Murrow (or I'm So Afraid)
Crying In The Night
Don't Let Me Down Again
Silver Springs
Tusk
World Turning
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
encores
Second Hand News
Crystal

JazmenFlowers
08-28-2007, 11:11 AM
^^^
that? is awesome.

Sarah
08-28-2007, 04:23 PM
Okay. Here's what I think I'd like..

- The Chain - traditional crickets, bass drum thump, lights coming on, etc., straight into...
- Monday Morning - followed by hello, welcome, etc.
- Gold Dust Woman
- Eyes of the World
- Rhiannon - speed it up a bit, plz
- Second Hand News
- World Turning - with drum set solo and original talking drum, not the vest, and it'd be cool if they could somehow blend that into the opening beats of..
- Tusk!
- Go Your Own Way
- Silver Springs - yesssss, SS after GYOW, faith in cycles ftw
- Landslide - I'm a bit tired of it, tbh, but it's touching to hear the entire arena sing along
- Big Love - I don't mind if he does it solo... he likes the response it gets
- Trouble - acoustic, just 'cuz Stevie will get solo with Stand Back
- Red Rover
- Everybody Finds Out - !!!!!!!!!!!
- Stand Back
- Oh Well
- ANGEL - plz. my life isn't complete without seeing it live in person. :distress:
- I Know I'm Not Wrong
- Sara - (i hate it, but i will probably need a pee break and another beer by this point. :laugh:)
- Save Me A Place
- Sisters of the Moon

*ENCORE*

- Don't Let Me Down Again
- Blue Letter
- Say Goodbye


I would probably list this out differently on any given day... but this sounds OK to me for now. I would like to see Lindsey solo again some more first, though. ;)

LiamMcConville
08-28-2007, 05:04 PM
Recording of Waves Crashing
1. Tango In The Night/I'm So Afraid
2. Straight Back
3. Dreams
4. Big Love
5. Oh Well
6. Illume [Only Stevie and John until Chorus]
7. Fireflies
8. Not That Funny
9. Angel
10. Go Your Own Way
11. Silver Springs
12. Never Going Back Again
13. Sara
14. Peacekeeper
15. Smile At You
16. Say Goodbye
17. Beautiful Child
18. Seven Wonders
19. Tusk

ENCORE
20. Sisters of the Moon
21. Landslide
22. Save Me a Place
23. Frozen Love

Chrislit18
08-28-2007, 08:23 PM
Recording of Waves Crashing
1. Tango In The Night/I'm So Afraid
2. Straight Back
3. Dreams
4. Big Love
5. Oh Well
6. Illume [Only Stevie and John until Chorus]
7. Fireflies
8. Not That Funny
9. Angel
10. Go Your Own Way
11. Silver Springs
12. Never Going Back Again
13. Sara
14. Peacekeeper
15. Smile At You
16. Say Goodbye
17. Beautiful Child
18. Seven Wonders
19. Tusk

ENCORE
20. Sisters of the Moon
21. Landslide
22. Save Me a Place
23. Frozen Love
I Think Ive died and gone to heaven :shocked:
but as Sarah said, add EFO....and I want to hear Come :D

mylittledemon
08-28-2007, 08:29 PM
1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Eyes of the World
4. Big Love
5. Oh Well
6. Thrown Down
7. Crystal
8. Not That Funny
9. Sara
10. Go Your Own Way
11. Silver Springs
12. Never Going Back Again
13. Bleed to Love Her
14. Why (No Christine I know, but hey)
15. I'm So Afraid
16. Say Goodbye
17. Beautiful Child
18. World Turning (minus the Mick vest-urbation)
19. Tusk
20. Sisters of the Moon
21. Landslide
22. Twisted
23. Blue Letter
24. Farmers Daughter

LiamMcConville
08-28-2007, 08:30 PM
I Think Ive died and gone to heaven :shocked:
but as Sarah said, add EFO....and I want to hear Come :D

I would consider EFO, but after I realized that its Lindsey and not Stevie singing the chorus of Come, it lost its charm.

I forgot to mention, I want Big Love to be the album arrangement, not the acoustic arrangement.

Chrislit18
08-28-2007, 08:32 PM
and of course, if Chris were to come back...
The Chain
I'm So Afraid
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Say You Love Me
Dreams
Big Love
Go Your Own Way
You Are [off of In the Meantime..]
Running Through The Garden
You Make Loving Fun
Landslide
Peacekeeper
Eyes Of the World
Gypsy
Sara
Wish You Were Here/Only Over You
Don't Stop
World Turning
Everywhere [or Little Lies]
Thrown Down
Isn't It Midnight
Silver Springs
Songbird

Encore:
Blue Letter
Storms

Chrislit18
08-28-2007, 08:36 PM
I would consider EFO, but after I realized that its Lindsey and not Stevie singing the chorus of Come, it lost its charm.

I forgot to mention, I want Big Love to be the album arrangement, not the acoustic arrangement.
Right, I personally like the album better than the Dance...sorry :shrug:

LiamMcConville
08-28-2007, 08:52 PM
Right, I personally like the album better than the Dance...sorry :shrug:

...Me too. :laugh: :shrug:

Chrislit18
08-28-2007, 09:01 PM
...Me too. :laugh: :shrug:
youre a cool kid liam :)

yeah I wish that Linds would have just used the Tango arrangement, it has more pizzaz IMO

LiamMcConville
08-28-2007, 09:06 PM
youre a cool kid liam :)

yeah I wish that Linds would have just used the Tango arrangement, it has more pizzaz IMO

Thanks. You too Chris. :thumbsup:

I agree. It really goes well with the crispness of Dreams too. Good setlist-partners like GYOW and SS.

Chrislit18
08-28-2007, 09:20 PM
Thanks :D
I agree, I like the older Dreams arrangements better than say The Dance/SYW tour, but I always love GOYW Live [it was actually on VH1 classic not too long ago from SYW], and SS went down as soon as Chris left....thats why I desperately hope she comes back. She makes everything flow better IMO.

Oh and regards to the tour...Dance Lighting please. Not so crazy about the red tones of SYW, the dark blue tones work better for the bands aura....

LiamMcConville
08-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Thanks :D
I agree, I like the older Dreams arrangements better than say The Dance/SYW tour, but I always love GOYW Live [it was actually on VH1 classic not too long ago from SYW], and SS went down as soon as Chris left....thats why I desperately hope she comes back. She makes everything flow better IMO.

Oh and regards to the tour...Dance Lighting please. Not so crazy about the red tones of SYW, the dark blue tones work better for the bands aura....

I think Dreams generally has been better arranged on Stevie solo tours. I don't know why that is. I agree with that GYOW hasn't had a dull tour, although its a little bit so-so on the Tusk tour. Chris does make everything flow better. She's the mellow to Lindsey and Stevie's intensity. She's sorely missed.

I think the lighting should correspond with the song, so, Tango in the Night would be dark shades of blue and green, like the cover of the album . Silver Springs would be blue's and silver's. Etc.

Chrislit18
08-28-2007, 09:29 PM
nah, silver springs should be blue green/silver...[blue green colors flashing...:laugh: ]
and then when Stevies all 'NEVER GET AWAY!!!!!!' to Lindsey make the colors flash....fastly...

but the color based on the song....good idea :thumbsup:

PenguinHead
08-28-2007, 09:40 PM
nah, silver springs should be blue green/silver...[blue green colors flashing...:laugh: ]
and then when Stevies all 'NEVER GET AWAY!!!!!!' to Lindsey make the colors flash....fastly...

but the color based on the song....good idea :thumbsup:

brilliant idea! lol Better yet, during Stevie's "Never get away" tirade, she can tazor Lindsey with her electrified tamborine!

LiamMcConville
08-28-2007, 09:46 PM
nah, silver springs should be blue green/silver...[blue green colors flashing...:laugh: ]
and then when Stevies all 'NEVER GET AWAY!!!!!!' to Lindsey make the colors flash....fastly...

but the color based on the song....good idea :thumbsup:

Damn thats a good idea too.

Thanks. ;)

Matthew
08-29-2007, 03:59 AM
It must be with Christine.
My wishlist:
1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Everywhere
4. Gypsy
5. Gold Dust Woman
6. Isn´t It Midnight
7. Eyes Of The World
8. Seven Wonders
9. World Turning
10. Nights In Estoril
11. Tango In The Night
12. Running Through The Garden
13. Miranda
14. Litlle Lies
15. Stand Back
16. Freedom
17. Friend
18. Sisters Of The Moon
19. Go Your Own Way
20. Don´t Stop

justcrazylove
08-29-2007, 04:17 AM
Second hand news
monday morning
thrown down
rhiannon
so afraid
gold dust woman
oh well
NGBA
Trouble
Landslide
steal your heart away
Angel
stand back
silver springs
i know im not wrong
tusk
dont stop
GYOW

ENCORE
The chain
sisters of the moon
not that funny

second encore
storms
down on rodeo


lets at least attempt to be realistic, there will be no Chris, and they wont play anything thats not "safe" and for god sake no more chain to open

AliceLover
08-29-2007, 11:06 AM
This is the set list I sent to John McVie when he was doing the Q+A here. He said he would "pass it along" whatever that means.

The Chain
Dreams
Steal Your Heart Away
Freedom
Eyes of the World
Second Hand News
Thrown Down
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Tango in the Night
Gypsy
Big Love
Seven Wonders
Red Rover
Storms
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Running Through the Garden
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
Blue Letter
Don't Let me Down Again
Don't Stop
Crystal

ShangriLaTroubl
08-29-2007, 12:00 PM
Good suggestion on SAVE ME A PLACE, didn't think of that one. LOVED hearing Lindsey do it on his most recent solo tour..would be great with Stevie on harmonies I think.

TrueFaith77
08-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Of course it's impossible to suggest a set list since we have no idea what new songs from the new album they will need to promote/premiere :D

chiliD
08-29-2007, 01:27 PM
...from the new album...

:rolleyes: WHAT "new album"??

Unless, Lindsey turns this supposed "rockin' album" of leftover GOS tunes (that he mentioned ad nauseum while promoting UTS) into another Fleetwood Mac album, I don't forsee them touring to back an album (of NEW material, anyway)...unless they release yet another version of Rumours (such as a 30th anniversary box set, or something). But, haven't they ridden that dead horse for the past 30 years already? :shrug:

Sarah
08-29-2007, 02:08 PM
:rolleyes: WHAT "new album"??

Unless, Lindsey turns this supposed "rockin' album" of leftover GOS tunes (that he mentioned ad nauseum while promoting UTS) into another Fleetwood Mac album, I don't forsee them touring to back an album (of NEW material, anyway)...unless they release yet another version of Rumours (such as a 30th anniversary box set, or something). But, haven't they ridden that dead horse for the past 30 years already? :shrug:

I hope to hell he doesn't. Besides, Stevie was bitching a while back about the 4-some Mac "not working".

Rumours box set... no. Complete retrospective... would be nice. ;)

chiliD
08-29-2007, 03:06 PM
Rumours box set... no.

My sentiments exactly.

And, we don't need any more damned compilations...either finish up the remaster/reissue of the entire back catalogue (Then Play On to Heroes Are Hard To Find and Mirage to The Dance) or record a new album. Or, just call it a day, since the band doesn't seem to be the priority for either remaining songwriter.

Sarah
08-29-2007, 03:26 PM
My sentiments exactly.

And, we don't need any more damned compilations...either finish up the remaster/reissue of the entire back catalogue (Then Play On to Heroes Are Hard To Find and Mirage to The Dance) or record a new album. Or, just call it a day, since the band doesn't seem to be the priority for either remaining songwriter.

I feel ya. I don't want a half ass album. Say You Will might be a good place to call it quits.

I want a displayable boxed set... something that would look really nice on the shelf. It'd be great if they were all remastered, but mainly, I just want it to look good as part of my collection. Also, I want a huge-ass high quality coffee table book. There are too many awesome photos of this band - from sets, candids, and live shots - to not have a nice collector's book.

stevierocks87
08-29-2007, 05:19 PM
Monday Morning
Dreams
Oh Well
Eyes of the World
Thrown Down
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon (how about "going for it" at the end for one last tour?)
Big Love (electric!)
Tango in the Night (this would be THE guitar song. No Morrow or So Afraid)
----Acoustic Set-----
Gypsy
Try for the Sun (Say Goodbye/Red Rove style, with Stevie doing slight backing vocals)
Landslide (if they MUST. I could definitely go without in favor of other songs).
----------------------
Frozen Love
Red Rover
Gold Dust Woman (Can take out if too similar to SOTM-would much rather here SOTM)
Sara
Miranda/Twist of Fate/Gift of Screws (I don't see them doing any more than 1 of these, and probably not the GOS tracks, but I think Lindsey would have a lot of fun singing them, and Stevie doing back-up on the chorus)
Angel
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
----Encore 1-------
Sisters of the Moon
----Encore 2-------
The Chain
Blue Letter
Crystal (Lindsey does first verse, then Stevie)

chiliD
08-29-2007, 06:01 PM
Say You Will might be a good place to call it quits.

Oh, dear, no. They need one last kick ass double CD of new material. Even if they don't tour to back it...drag Christine, Bob Welch, Peter Green & Jeremy Spencer into the sessions for cameo appearances. And, maybe a one-off concert (on Pay-Per-View, with a subsequently released DVD) with all participants involved. Let's take this carnival out in style.

Sarah
08-29-2007, 06:15 PM
Oh, dear, no. They need one last kick ass double CD of new material. Even if they don't tour to back it...drag Christine, Bob Welch, Peter Green & Jeremy Spencer into the sessions for cameo appearances. And, maybe a one-off concert (on Pay-Per-View, with a subsequently released DVD) with all participants involved. Let's take this carnival out in style.

that could happen. when hell freezes over. :laugh:

that would be really, really awesome though. legendary, even. it'd be like the ultimate farewell to end-all farewells. every other band has some sort of goodbye (but then gets back together). as many different versions of FM as there have been, it'd be really awesome if they could just get back together and say, you know what, this really is it... we've had a great run.

chiliD
08-29-2007, 06:32 PM
that could happen. when hell freezes over. :laugh:

Which is exactly what they said about an Eagles reunion in about 1982 or so. Now, we can't get those bastards off the road. :laugh:

shackin'up
08-29-2007, 06:32 PM
I don't Want To Know
Don't Let Me Down Again
Without A Leg To stand On
Long Distance Winner
Angel
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Enough For Me
Frozen Love
Stephanie
Sorcerer
That's All For Everyone
That's Alright
Monday Morning
The Ledge
Book Of Love
Walk A Thin Line
Storms
Can't Go Back
Rhiannon (3minB/N version)
Not That Funny
Eyes Of The World

Beautiful Child
Sisters Of The Moon
I Know I'm Not Wrong

Save Me A Place
Crystal
California Dreaming

UnwindedDreams
08-29-2007, 07:15 PM
Sara
You Make Loving Fun
The Chain
Big Love
Think About Me
Dreams
New Song
Little Lies
Eyes of the World
Gypsy
Hold Me
Everywhere
New Song
Got A Hold On Me
Oh Well
Trouble
Albatross
Rhiannon
Gold Dust Woman
Tusk
Edge of Seventeen
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Landslide
Don't Stop

David
08-29-2007, 07:18 PM
I don't Want To Know
Don't Let Me Down Again
Without A Leg To stand On
Long Distance Winner
Angel
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Enough For Me
Frozen Love
Stephanie
Sorcerer
That's All For Everyone
That's Alright
Monday Morning
The Ledge
Book Of Love
Walk A Thin Line
Storms
Can't Go Back
Rhiannon (3minB/N version)
Not That Funny
Eyes Of The World

Beautiful Child
Sisters Of The Moon
I Know I'm Not Wrong

Save Me A Place
Crystal
California DreamingHey I'm down widdat set list, Gerald. I believe I could go for that. I think it works because there's no reason to hear anything they're currently doing ... again ... right?

BlackWidow
08-29-2007, 07:21 PM
I don't Want To Know
Don't Let Me Down Again
Without A Leg To stand On
Long Distance Winner
Angel
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Enough For Me
Frozen Love
Stephanie
Sorcerer
That's All For Everyone
That's Alright
Monday Morning
The Ledge
Book Of Love
Walk A Thin Line
Storms
Can't Go Back
Rhiannon (3minB/N version)
Not That Funny
Eyes Of The World

Beautiful Child
Sisters Of The Moon
I Know I'm Not Wrong

Save Me A Place
Crystal
California Dreaming

That would be sheer PERFECTION!!!:p

shackin'up
08-30-2007, 01:18 PM
Hey I'm down widdat set list, Gerald. I believe I could go for that. I think it works because there's no reason to hear anything they're currently doing ... again ... right?

cool. but not only that, david, I think it's a list that's coherent, well paced and would set them in a light that they neglected in their imageprofile during their existance. These are the songs that REALLY made me a fan. OK, I didn't include some of my fave songs, but I'd prefer this. All those great albumsongs are the real Mac.

danax6
08-30-2007, 01:24 PM
I don't Want To Know
Don't Let Me Down Again
Without A Leg To stand On
Long Distance Winner
Angel
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Enough For Me
Frozen Love
Stephanie
Sorcerer
That's All For Everyone
That's Alright
Monday Morning
The Ledge
Book Of Love
Walk A Thin Line
Storms
Can't Go Back
Rhiannon (3minB/N version)
Not That Funny
Eyes Of The World

Beautiful Child
Sisters Of The Moon
I Know I'm Not Wrong

Save Me A Place
Crystal
California DreamingYis yis yis. I would lose all bladder control if I went to a show like this. The only thing I ask is that Not That Funny be replaced with Tango in the Night and That's Alright with either Thrown Down or Everybody Finds Out. Then I can die and go to heaven.

shackin'up
08-30-2007, 01:29 PM
BTW, opening with I Don't Want To Know would bring people to tears, I'm sure. It's a surprise choice of a song EVERYBODY knows. Because everybody who sees a macshow knows rumours. It's a forgotten gem that will pull alot of emotion.

And I love that track.

danax6
08-30-2007, 01:32 PM
BTW, opening with I Don't Want To Know would bring people to tears, I'm sure. It's a surprise choice of a song EVERYBODY knows. Because everybody who sees a macshow knows rumours. It's a forgotten gem that will pull alot of emotion.

And I love that track.Besides, it's the only Rumours track that has never been performed live by Fleetwood Mac. Only Buckingham and Nicks did it in their earlier shows.

shackin'up
08-30-2007, 01:34 PM
Yis yis yis. I would lose all bladder control if I went to a show like this. The only thing I ask is that Not That Funny be replaced with Tango in the Night and That's Alright with either Thrown Down or Everybody Finds Out. Then I can die and go to heaven.

I understand your choices, but as you see I deliberately stayed away from Tango and SYW, because I want to see a FMshow fronted by B/N -only with songs from the time they REALLY worked together.


AND I MUST SEE NOT THAT FUNNY LIVE!

danax6
08-30-2007, 01:38 PM
I understand your choices, but as you see I deliberately stayed away from Tango and SYW, because I want to see a FMshow fronted by B/N -only with songs from the time they REALLY worked together.
I know that was your intent, but really, the collaborating stopped after Buckingham Nicks. ;) After that it was more like 'Shoo, Stevie, let me do my thing and come back when I'm done. Bye now.'. Definitely when Tusk rolled around.

Anyway, we were talking about my dream setlist, and I want a little Tango and SYW, damnit. :mad:

TheWILDheart
08-30-2007, 01:38 PM
- Sara - (i hate it, but i will probably need a pee break and another beer by this point. :laugh:)


WHAT!? Sara is my favourite song of all time - EVER! :mad:

shackin'up
08-30-2007, 01:38 PM
Can you imagine a macshow starting with ONE single exploding beat on the snare drum and than those twopartharmonies kicking in immediately?

goosebumps.

danax6
08-30-2007, 01:41 PM
WHAT!? Sara is my favourite song of all time - EVER! :mad:Yes, but live it's kind of blah.

Can you imagine a macshow starting with ONE single exploding beat on the snare drum and than those twopartharmonies kicking in immediately?

goosebumps.I was just about to come to Nijmegen and kick your ass for making me anticipate this. I have so many dreams and they keep killing them. :distress:

Tango
08-30-2007, 01:42 PM
I don't Want To Know
Don't Let Me Down Again
Without A Leg To stand On
Long Distance Winner
Angel
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Enough For Me
Frozen Love
Stephanie
Sorcerer
That's All For Everyone
That's Alright
Monday Morning
The Ledge
Book Of Love
Walk A Thin Line
Storms
Can't Go Back
Rhiannon (3minB/N version)
Not That Funny
Eyes Of The World

Beautiful Child
Sisters Of The Moon
I Know I'm Not Wrong

Save Me A Place
Crystal
California Dreaming

I agree with the others, it's a great list. Maybe consider sending your list in as a suggestion to the Q&A with John (http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/qa/question/index.html), the Q&A with Lindsey ([email protected]) <[email protected]>and the Q&A with Stevie ([email protected]) <[email protected]>.

(August 30th, one more day until the Lindsey Q&A is posted????) :shrug:

danax6
08-30-2007, 01:45 PM
I agree with the others, it's a great list. Maybe consider sending your list in as a suggestion to the Q&A with John (http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/qa/question/index.html), the Q&A with Lindsey ([email protected]) <[email protected]>and the Q&A with Stevie ([email protected]) <[email protected]>.

(August 30th, one more day until the Lindsey Q&A is posted????) :shrug:Lindsey is never going to take him seriously anymore after that last question that he submitted. I dug my own grave also. ;)

shackin'up
08-30-2007, 02:12 PM
Lindsey is never going to take him seriously anymore after that last question that he submitted. I dug my own grave also. ;)

I bet lindsey never gets to see that question. But it's cool you didn't leave me alone ;).

shackin'up
08-30-2007, 02:16 PM
Yes, but live it's kind of blah.

I was just about to come to Nijmegen and kick your ass for making me anticipate this. I have so many dreams and they keep killing them. :distress:

Sorry vanessa, but i don't get your post here?:shrug:

danax6
08-31-2007, 09:53 AM
Sorry vanessa, but i don't get your post here?:shrug:Are you high again? :laugh: I was just saying that there are so many things I'd love them to do and they never do it. So I now hate you for suggesting they open with I Don't Want To Know, because that's another thing I would really, really love to see.

Sarah
08-31-2007, 10:11 AM
I'd like to hear IDWTK if Stevie could still sing it like she did before the voice change.. but I don't want to hear it in her boring, lower register she's got these days. I think that could - quite possibly - ruin the song for me.

I'm imagining it now, and in my head, it doesn't sound good. :distress:

danax6
08-31-2007, 10:35 AM
I'd like to hear IDWTK if Stevie could still sing it like she did before the voice change.. but I don't want to hear it in her boring, lower register she's got these days. I think that could - quite possibly - ruin the song for me.

I'm imagining it now, and in my head, it doesn't sound good. :distress:Well, then a lot, if not most, wouldn't sound good if you compare it to the original. I never thought she could pull off Beautiful Child with her current voice either, but it was prrretty.

Sarah
08-31-2007, 12:00 PM
Well, then a lot, if not most, wouldn't sound good if you compare it to the original. I never thought she could pull off Beautiful Child with her current voice either, but it was prrretty.

I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's necessarily the case here. Beautiful Child is a pretty song down to the way it's written, and indeed does sound beautiful in the lower register. I Don't Want To Know is kind of the upbeat, youthful type vibe as it's written. I just don't think she could pull it off with the lower voice. I'll go out on a limb and say that I think it would actually just highlight how "lethargic" the performances are becoming, really.

Take for instance the song Say You Will... I don't particularly care for that one, but it was kind of an opportunity for Stevie to be a little more upbeat with her singing during the show. But the way it was executed... it was really just kind of a drag. I can just imagine her using that same voice on IDWTK.. all monotone. The different inflections (is that the word i'm looking for?) and expressions in the original are what make I Don't Want To Know a good song, imo.

shackin'up
08-31-2007, 12:32 PM
I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's necessarily the case here. Beautiful Child is a pretty song down to the way it's written, and indeed does sound beautiful in the lower register. I Don't Want To Know is kind of the upbeat, youthful type vibe as it's written. I just don't think she could pull it off with the lower voice. I'll go out on a limb and say that I think it would actually just highlight how "lethargic" the performances are becoming, really.

Take for instance the song Say You Will... I don't particularly care for that one, but it was kind of an opportunity for Stevie to be a little more upbeat with her singing during the show. But the way it was executed... it was really just kind of a drag. I can just imagine her using that same voice on IDWTK.. all monotone. The different inflections (is that the word i'm looking for?) and expressions in the original are what make I Don't Want To Know a good song, imo.

yeah I see what you mean, but her parts on the original SYW are boring too. She even said that herself during the DR-doc. Lindsey didn't like that remark but at the same time he knew it was true. (all in one facial expression/grin :laugh:)

I think they can do IDWTK these days. But only if they keep the pace. A little lowering in key wouldn't ruin it. But more important They'll have to seek eachother in the harmony and not sing it on automatic pilot, which they tend do do on tour.

danax6
08-31-2007, 12:38 PM
yeah I see what you mean, but her parts on the original SYW are boring too. She even said that herself during the DR-doc. Lindsey didn't like that remark but at the same time he knew it was true. (all in one facial expression/grin :laugh:)
Are you sure? I definitely agree, but I don't remember them mentioning that.

shackin'up
08-31-2007, 01:13 PM
Are you sure? I definitely agree, but I don't remember them mentioning that.

As I recall, there's a snippet of lindsey singing the high key backing vocal in that small windowed booth and she said that they were Ok, as her vocals were a bit monotone, than his grin and she, friendly, says something like "well they are"... Anybody else recognizing this? Maybe it's the same part as where she wittingly says something about that he's gonna do those highkey backings on tour?

danax6
08-31-2007, 01:25 PM
As I recall, there's a snippet of lindsey singing the high key backing vocal in that small windowed booth and she said that they were Ok, as her vocals were a bit monotone, than his grin and she, friendly, says something like "well they are"... Anybody else recognizing this? Maybe it's the same part as where she wittingly says something about that he's gonna do those highkey backings on tour?Hmm, I do remember that part, she's holding some stuffed animal in her lap and she has headphones on, but I don't recall her saying that. I'm going to watch that again tonight. ;)

Sarah
08-31-2007, 01:43 PM
yeah I see what you mean, but her parts on the original SYW are boring too.

'tis true. good point you make, sir. ;)

i don't recall that part, but it has been a very long time since i last saw the DR doc. guess it's time to dig it out.

is this before or after the part where lindsey starts smoking a bowl during a meeting? ;)

danax6
08-31-2007, 01:50 PM
'tis true. good point you make, sir. ;)

i don't recall that part, but it has been a very long time since i last saw the DR doc. guess it's time to dig it out.

is this before or after the part where lindsey starts smoking a bowl during a meeting? ;)If I remember correctly... after. ;)

carrie721
08-31-2007, 02:13 PM
If I remember correctly... after. ;)

i disapprove of drugs :mad:

chiliD
08-31-2007, 02:51 PM
i disapprove of drugs :mad:

Just think of the songs that were created while under the influence that most likely wouldn't have seen the light of day had they been sober...namely everything they did from 1975-2003 was created under some chemical influence by one or more of them.

danax6
08-31-2007, 02:55 PM
i disapprove of drugs :mad:Drugs are baaaad, mmmkay? :mad:

carrie721
08-31-2007, 03:05 PM
Just think of the songs that were created while under the influence that most likely wouldn't have seen the light of day had they been sober...namely everything they did from 1975-2003 was created under some chemical influence by one or more of them.

thanks for enlightening me! i was totally being serious too!

Drugs are baaaad, mmmkay? :mad:

every time someone offers me drugs, i just think "what would brian boitano do?"

danax6
08-31-2007, 03:08 PM
every time someone offers me drugs, i just think "what would brian boitano do?"Skate, Forrest, skate!

Sarah
08-31-2007, 03:26 PM
every time someone offers me drugs, i just think "what would brian boitano do?"

i'm sure he'd kick an ass or two. that's what brian boitano'd do.

shackin'up
08-31-2007, 03:37 PM
Just think of the songs that were created while under the influence that most likely wouldn't have seen the light of day had they been sober...namely everything they did from 1975-2003 was created under some chemical influence by one or more of them.

you're probably right, but I just HAVE to correct you nonetheless: If they are still smoking an occasional joint - and they do- it's not chemical influence. I hardly think they did LSD or nowadays Ecstacy.

Johnny Stew
08-31-2007, 03:59 PM
yeah I see what you mean, but her parts on the original SYW are boring too. She even said that herself during the DR-doc. Lindsey didn't like that remark but at the same time he knew it was true. (all in one facial expression/grin :laugh:)

As I recall, there's a snippet of lindsey singing the high key backing vocal in that small windowed booth and she said that they were Ok, as her vocals were a bit monotone, than his grin and she, friendly, says something like "well they are"... Anybody else recognizing this?

You're definitely remembering the part correctly, but it wasn't in the 'Destiny Rules' doc... it's from the short "making of" that was part of the enhanced video content on disc 1 of 'The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac.'

Between the footage on that CD, the stuff used on VH1's 'All Access' special, and the actual documentary, it's difficult to keep it all straight!

chiliD
08-31-2007, 04:05 PM
you're probably right, but I just HAVE to correct you nonetheless: If they are still smoking an occasional joint - and they do- it's not chemical influence. I hardly think they did LSD or nowadays Ecstacy.


Nope, no correction needed. The burning of a plant is a chemical process. The absorbtion of THC into the bloodstream is a chemical process. Alcohol is a chemical, and again, its absorbtion into the bloodstream is a chemical process.

danax6
08-31-2007, 04:18 PM
You're definitely remembering the part correctly, but it wasn't in the 'Destiny Rules' doc... it's from the short "making of" that was part of the enhanced video content on disc 1 of 'The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac.'

Between the footage on that CD, the stuff used on VH1's 'All Access' special, and the actual documentary, it's difficult to keep it all straight!Mystery solved. :thumbsup: Now I have to whip out that cd. I've never actually even watched that footage, I thought it was just a trailer for the doc. Or was that also the clip where Lindsey is kind of laughing off the fact that Stevie's dogs keep yapping through the recording sessions? Am I mixing stuff up again? Could be that was in the All Access doc also...

mylittledemon
09-04-2007, 09:51 AM
My sentiments exactly.

And, we don't need any more damned compilations...either finish up the remaster/reissue of the entire back catalogue (Then Play On to Heroes Are Hard To Find and Mirage to The Dance) or record a new album. Or, just call it a day, since the band doesn't seem to be the priority for either remaining songwriter.

I agree for once!