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irishgrl
08-16-2007, 08:04 PM
The date the Mayan Calendar ends......also happens to coincide with a major celestial event. many folks believe that it may bring an apocalyptic change.

any thots folks?

ps: here's a nice article to start with:

Mayan Prophecy 2012: Entering Our Galactic Day

Many of us are aware of the Mayan calendar but not many people truly understand what it means and how it works. Yes the calendar does end on December 21, 2012, but what does that mean? How does it come to that? What is their calendar based off of?

The Mayans had a very precise understanding of our solar system's cycles and believed that these cycles coincided with our spiritual and collective consciousness. The most significant of which has much to do with the 2012 prophecies. In the following writing, we will walk through the main details of their prophecies surrounding the 2012 transition. How the transition takes place (from an astronomical perspective), what it means for us, and when the cycles take place. We'll start with the basic prophecies and later move deeper into the explanation of the cycles.

The Mayans prophesied that from 1999 we have 13 years to realize the changes in our conscious attitude to stray from the path of self-destruction and instead move onto a path that opens our consciousness to integrate us with all that exists.

The Mayans knew that our Sun, or Kinich-Ahau, every so often synchronized with the enormous central galaxy. And from this central galaxy received a 'spark' of light which causes the Sun to shine more intensely producing what our scientists call 'solar flares' as well as changes in the Sun's magnetic field. The Mayans say that this happens every 5,125 years. But also that this causes a displacement in the earths rotation, and because of this movement great catastrophes would be produced.

The Mayans believed the universal processes, like the 'breathing' of the galaxy, are cycles that never change. What changes is the consciousness of man that passes through it. Always in a process toward more perfection. Based on their observations, the Mayans predicted that from the initial date of the start of their civilization, 4 Ahau, 8 Cumku which is 3113 B.C., after one cycle being completed 5,125 years in their future, December 21st, 2012. The Sun, having received a powerful ray of synchronizing light from the center of the galaxy, would change its polarity which would produce a great cosmic event that would propel human kind to be ready to cross into a new era, The Golden Age. It is after this, that the Mayans say we will be ready to go through the door that was left by them, transforming our civilization based on fear to a vibration much higher in harmony.

Only from our individual efforts could we avoid the path to great cataclysm that our planet will suffer to start a new era, the sixth cycle of the Sun. The Mayan civilization was in the fifth cycle of the Sun, and there were four other great civilizations before them that were destroyed by great natural disasters. They believed that each cycle was just one stage in the collective consciousness of humanity.

In the last cataclysm of the Mayans, the civilization was destroyed by a great flood that left little survivors of which were their descendants. They believed that having known the end of their cycle, mankind would prepare for what is to come in the future and it is because of this that they would have preserved the dominant species; the human race. They say that coming changes will permit us to make a quantum leap forward in the evolution of our consciousness to create a new civilization that would manifest great harmony and compassion to all humankind.

Their first prophecy talks about 'The Time of No-Time'. A period of 20 years, which they call a Katún. The last 20 years of the Sun's cycle of 5,125 years. This cycle is from 1992 - 2012. I'll explain this in greater detail later. They predicted that during these times, solar winds would become more intense and could be seen on the Sun. This would be a time of great realization and great change for mankind. And it would be our own lack of preservation and contamination of the planet that would contribute to these changes. According to the Mayans, these changes would happen so that mankind comprehends how the universe works so we could advance to superior levels, leaving behind superficial materialism and liberating ourselves from suffering.

The Mayans say, that seven years after the start of Katún, which is to say 1999, we would enter a time of darkness which would force us to confront our own conduct. The say that this is the time when mankind will enter 'The Sacred Hall of Mirrors'. Where we will look at ourselves and analyze our behaviors with ourselves, with others, with nature and with the planet in which we live. A time in which all of humanity, by individual conscious decisions, decides to change and eliminate fear and lack of respect from all of our relationships. The Mayans prophesied that the start of this period would be marked by a solar eclipse on August 11, 1999, known to them as 13 Ahau, 8 Cauac. And would coincide with an unprecedented planetary alignment, the 'Grand Cross' alignment. This would be the last 13 years of the Katón period. The last opportunity for our civilization to realize the changes that are coming at the moment of our spiritual regeneration.

For the Mayans, everything is numbers and the time of the 13 sacred numbers started in August 1999. They predicted that along with the eclipse, the forces of nature would act like a catalyst of changes so accelerated and with such magnitude that mankind would be powerless against them. Also, that our technologies in which we rely on so much would begin to fail us. We would no longer be able to learn from our civilization in the way that we are organized as a society. They said that our internal, spiritual development would require a better place along with a better way to interact with more respect and compassion.

The first prophecies were attained by their study of our Sun. The Mayans discovered that the entire solar system moved. That even our universe has its own cycles. Repetitive periods which begin and end like our day and night. These discoveries lead to the understanding that our solar system rotates on an ellipse that brings our solar system closer and further from the center of the galaxy. In other words, according to the Mayans, our Sun and all of its planets rotate in cycles in relation to the center of the galaxy or Hunab-Kú, the central light of the galaxy. It takes 25,625 years for our solar system to make one cycle on this ellipse. One complete cycle is called a galactic day. The cycle is divided into two halves similar to our day and night. The half closest to the central light, is our solar system's 'day' and the half furthest away is its 'night'. Each day and each night lasts 12,800 years. Which is to say, the central galaxy is the Sun for our entire solar system.

The Mayans discovered that every grand cycle has its minor cycles, that carry the same characteristics. One galactic day of 25,625 years is divided into five cycles of 5,125 years. The first cycle is the galactic morning. When our solar system is just coming out of the darkness to enter the light. The second cycle is the mid-day. When our solar system is closest to the central light. The third cycle is the afternoon. When our solar system begins to come out of the light. The fourth cycle is the late-night. When our solar system has entered its furthest cycle from the central light. And the fifth and last cycle is night before dawn. When are solar system is in its last cycle of darkness before starting again. This is the cycle we are currently coming out of.

The Mayan prophecy tells us that in 1999, our solar system began to leave the end of the fifth cycle which started in 3113 B.C. and that we find ourselves in the morning of our galactic day, exiting darkness and on the verge of being in plain day of our central galaxy in 2012. They say that at the beginning and end of these cycles, which is to say, every 5,125 years, the central sun or light of the galaxy emits a ray of light so intense and so brilliant that it illuminates the entire universe. It is from this burst of light that all of the Suns and planets sync. The Mayans compare this burst to the pulse of the universe, beating once every 5,125 years. It is these pulses that mark the end of one cycle and the beginning of the next. Each pulse lasting 20 years, a Katún.

So we come back to what they call 'The Time of No Time'. It is an evolutionary period, short but intense, inside the grand cycles where great changes take place to thrust us into a new age of evolution as individuals and as mankind.

As individuals we will have to make decisions that will affect us all. If we continue on this negative path of hate, an eye for an eye, destruction of nature, of fear and egoism, we will enter straight into the time of destruction and chaos, and we will disappear as the dominant race of this planet. If we become conscious and realize that we all form part of a great organism, and that we should respect one another and be grateful to our planet, then we will move directly into positive growth, our Golden Age. Our planet, the Sun and the Galaxy are awaiting our decision. It is up to us what will happen in this time of change. Whether we go through a time of suffering and destruction or we find ourselves united in one positive consciousness moving closer to our next stage.

Please notice the events of our planet as evidence that the Mayan prophecies are worth listening to and learning from. Share this information and help us all move toward a better future, where we can thrive in a new era of positivity. It has never been so important.

www.december212012.com/articles/mayan/7.shtml

carrie721
08-16-2007, 08:06 PM
the x files is my bible, so i agree, that's when the world is going to end :D

danax6
08-16-2007, 08:06 PM
NOT EVEN GOING TO COMMENT. :laugh:

carrie721
08-16-2007, 08:07 PM
NOT EVEN GOING TO COMMENT. :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :xoxo:

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 08:24 PM
Is this when Jesus comes down and takes all of us to heaven??

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 08:29 PM
I dont know about you folks, but the idea that we may be staring apocalypse in the face 5 years hence is a bit nerve wracking for me....

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 08:30 PM
Is this when Jesus comes down and takes all of us to heaven??
everybody but YOU 'Dre!!!! (j/k! you know I luv ya!)

Sarah
08-16-2007, 08:35 PM
Is this when Jesus comes down and takes all of us to heaven??

so how long until the zombie corpses pop out of all graves? isn't that what's supposed to happen immediately before jesus? i think that's what they taught us in sunday school, anyway.

hooray for being raised in the bible belt!

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 08:36 PM
everybody but YOU 'Dre!!!! (j/k! you know I luv ya!)

I believe in Jesus. Jesus believes in me.

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 08:39 PM
I believe in Jesus. Jesus believes in me.
.....wasnt that a line from HAIR? (pretty close anyway!)

Manchester England England
Across the Atlantic Sea
And I'm a genius genius
I believe in God
And I believe that God
Believes in Claude
That's me that's me

so Andre, its you and CLAUDE! woot!!!

LiamMcConville
08-16-2007, 08:42 PM
WHEW! Plenty of time for me to lose my virginity.

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 08:45 PM
so how long until the zombie corpses pop out of all graves? isn't that what's supposed to happen immediately before jesus? i think that's what they taught us in sunday school, anyway.

hooray for being raised in the bible belt!

Jesus will do a sort of conference call if you will with all of us prior to the corpses erupting. Keep Jesus in your heart and your cell phone handy.

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 08:46 PM
WHEW! Plenty of time for me to lose my virginity.

JUST DO IT!

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 08:47 PM
.....wasnt that a line from HAIR? (pretty close anyway!)



so Andre, its you and CLAUDE! woot!!!

I love that song!:nod:

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 08:55 PM
I dont know about you folks, but the idea that we may be staring apocalypse in the face 5 years hence is a bit nerve wracking for me....
yeah, are you kidding me?!?!
ill die before im even old enough to drink leagally....
:rolleyes:

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 08:57 PM
Jesus will do a sort of conference call if you will with all of us prior to the corpses erupting. Keep Jesus in your heart and your cell phone handy.
just be sure it isnt a Dick Extension. Carrie will explain.

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 08:58 PM
yeah, are you kidding me?!?!
ill die before im even old enough to drink leagally....
:rolleyes:
oh what you've missed: quick! get WORLDLY right away! eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die!

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 08:58 PM
just be sure it isnt a Dick Extension. Carrie will explain.

I wouldn't care to hear it.

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:03 PM
hahaha theres so much i havent done in my mere 15 years of life
such as...anything fun
:mad:

stupid myan calender....

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 09:05 PM
hahaha theres so much i havent done in my mere 15 years of life
such as...anything fun
:mad:

stupid myan calender....

fly my little butterfly...FLY!!!:wavey:

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:06 PM
psh, yeah my moms gonna let me....
stupid exhippie....
:laugh:

Richard B
08-16-2007, 09:06 PM
This thread is hilarious. I was hoping Y2K was going to be the end. Fuking media.

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 09:07 PM
psh, yeah my moms gonna let me....
stupid exhippie....
:laugh:
HEY NOW! dont be dissin' ex-hippies! All you need is Love and all that!

LiamMcConville
08-16-2007, 09:07 PM
I will bet, SERIOUSLY, TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, that no apocalyptic event will take place on that date.

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:08 PM
no im not dissin all ex hippies...
just my mom
:nod:

she thinks shes little miss perfect now
:rolleyes:

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 09:08 PM
This thread is hilarious. I was hoping Y2K was going to be the end. Fuking media.
Srsly. Im worried. There's plenty of evidence that trouble's brewin....

I see a bad moon risin'...........

carrie721
08-16-2007, 09:08 PM
I will bet, SERIOUSLY, TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, that no apocalyptic event will take place on that date.

wow, two hundred whole dollars? :p

LiamMcConville
08-16-2007, 09:09 PM
wow, two hundred whole dollars? :p

I feel like that's worth the apocalypse. :laugh:

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:10 PM
Srsly. Im worried. There's plenty of evidence that trouble's brewin....

I see a bad moon risin'...........
ugh. PLEASE no Creedence Clearwater Revival
:lol:

thanks, now its stuck in my head.....

but anyways..

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cJtOdh7dEbM"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cJtOdh7dEbM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>


[and if that doesnt work...]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cJtOdh7dEbM

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 09:10 PM
I will bet, SERIOUSLY, TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, that no apocalyptic event will take place on that date.
I need $200......YER ON!!!!

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:11 PM
I need $200......YER ON!!!!
but if an apolyctic event happens on that date, how will you get your money??

:shrug:

Richard B
08-16-2007, 09:14 PM
Srsly. Im worried. There's plenty of evidence that trouble's brewin....

I see a bad moon risin'...........

Why worry? Why worry about the unknown? Rather silly, me thinks. Besides, we're all gonna die anyway.

LiamMcConville
08-16-2007, 09:15 PM
but if an apolyctic event happens on that date, how will you get your money??

:shrug:

If it happens, I' won't care about the money. :laugh:

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:16 PM
Exactly, but Im saying to Irishgirl, she wouldnt get her money....
so this is the message

spend every penny youve got on 12/20/2012....

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 09:18 PM
but if an apolyctic event happens on that date, how will you get your money??

:shrug:

Jesus will wire the money into her Heaven IRA...:shrug:

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:19 PM
Jesus will wire the money into her Heaven IRA...:shrug:
:lol:
that must be it :nod:

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 09:21 PM
ugh. PLEASE no Creedence Clearwater Revival
:lol:

thanks, now its stuck in my head.....

but anyways..

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cJtOdh7dEbM"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cJtOdh7dEbM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>


[and if that doesnt work...]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cJtOdh7dEbM
HEY NOW~ no dissin' CCR!!!!!!!! For SHAME!!!

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1mNsykZXO8k"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1mNsykZXO8k" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

BlackWidow
08-16-2007, 09:21 PM
:lol:
that must be it :nod:

It's all in God's plan.:angel:

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 09:23 PM
but if an apolyctic event happens on that date, how will you get your money??

:shrug:
arrgh! you're RIGHT! I guess I'll have to get paid in advance and give a refund if it doesnt happen. YEP! I like that idea, FORK OVER!!!!!

irishgrl
08-16-2007, 09:24 PM
It's all in God's plan.:angel:
God can be my bookkeeper any day :nod:

Chrislit18
08-16-2007, 09:29 PM
Not that I dont like CCR...just...thier not my favorite. and theyre overplayed where i live....

yeah, id just wait it out...i highly doubt that were all gonna die that day....

BlackWidow
08-17-2007, 07:03 PM
God can be my bookkeeper any day :nod:

He is way too busy keeping track of your sins my child!

irishgrl
08-17-2007, 09:55 PM
He is way too busy keeping track of your sins my child!
ar ar! he's had it WAAAAAAY too easy lately IMO!!

you just arent quite depraved enuff!

eclipse
08-18-2007, 10:00 AM
Srsly. Im worried. There's plenty of evidence that trouble's brewin....

I see a bad moon risin'...........


Let's all think about global warming and how long that will take to destroy "cycles", those Myans...may have something , or I should say might have had many things corrrect, in their "knowledge" of the moon/stars and cycles of each-

Think about how many more disasterous weather events we have had and are contiuing to have...And temps keep rising all over the world...
I'm with irish.
I am not packing my bags or anything, but I feel a bad moon rising-eventually....
Anna

BlackWidow
08-18-2007, 10:30 AM
ar ar! he's had it WAAAAAAY too easy lately IMO!!

you just arent quite depraved enuff!

Have I told you lately, that I love you?:lol:

danax6
08-18-2007, 10:49 AM
Last thing I heard was that there was going to be a drastic change in the world of technoglogy. Not that technology is going to cease to exist, but the cycle has to be broken somewhere, and that's when it will happen. People need to go back to basics in order to appreciate what it is that they have.

Not my words, blame the freakin' Mayans.

irishgrl
08-18-2007, 10:57 AM
Last thing I heard was that there was going to be a drastic change in the world of technoglogy. Not that technology is going to cease to exist, but the cycle has to be broken somewhere, and that's when it will happen. People need to go back to basics in order to appreciate what it is that they have.

Not my words, blame the freakin' Mayans.
I think you've got a point. Basic skills like food growing, food canning, knitting, farming, animal husbandry etc, are lost arts, and even more basic, trapping, skinning, survival skills......I think those are essential things to know. And the generation that could be teaching us is dying off. I know none of those skills and Im afraid that if something DID happen, I wouldnt be able to care for my family :distress: I wanted to put my son in Boy Scouts but they require a scout to participate in some sort of religion, and I abhore organized religions. Scouting does not recognize wicca. or any other earth based religion. So, thats out. and thats a shame really...

BlackWidow
08-18-2007, 12:21 PM
I think you've got a point. Basic skills like food growing, food canning, knitting, farming, animal husbandry etc, are lost arts, and even more basic, trapping, skinning, survival skills......I think those are essential things to know. And the generation that could be teaching us is dying off. I know none of those skills and Im afraid that if something DID happen, I wouldnt be able to care for my family :distress: I wanted to put my son in Boy Scouts but they require a scout to participate in some sort of religion, and I abhore organized religions. Scouting does not recognize wicca. or any other earth based religion. So, thats out. and thats a shame really...

*Drum roll, please*

Are you Wicca?
Does "Animal husbandry" have anything to do with my relationship to Janet's hubby Jeff?

irishgrl
08-18-2007, 01:18 PM
*Drum roll, please*

Are you Wicca?
Does "Animal husbandry" have anything to do with my relationship to Janet's hubby Jeff?
Im as much wicca/pagan as anything else. Im an eclectic mix of eastern/western and earthbased. I just didnt want to be forced to have my son go to a church in order to be a boy scout. That frosted my cookies. I think boy scouts would have given him just the sort of survival skills he would need if a tragedy occurred :shrug:

as for your relationship with Jeff, Im not touching that with a 10ft pole! (you baa-aaad boy you!)

gldstwmn
08-18-2007, 02:28 PM
Cripes. After everything else I've been through, now I have to live to see the end of the world? :laugh:

irishgrl
08-18-2007, 03:26 PM
its the end of the world as we know it, and I feeeeel fiiiiiiine!

sara1998
08-18-2007, 03:41 PM
Cripes. After everything else I've been through, now I have to live to see the end of the world? :laugh:

Yeah, no ****.
Damn the luck...

BlackWidow
08-18-2007, 04:07 PM
Cripes. After everything else I've been through, now I have to live to see the end of the world? :laugh:

"Welcome to your Wild Heart!" :p ;)