View Full Version : If 7 wonders is gone, can we get an Images thread here??
gypsywoman
07-30-2007, 11:33 PM
Hey guys...If 7 wonders is really gone, cant we get an Images forum here like over there??
carrie721
07-31-2007, 12:13 AM
Hey guys...If 7 wonders is really gone, cant we get an Images forum here like over there??
no. there isn't going to be an images forum.
RockALittle250
07-31-2007, 12:15 AM
We don't need an images forum, because unlike Seven Wonders, The Ledge has no restrictions on posting pics in any of the forums.
enchanted
07-31-2007, 07:09 AM
What happened to it????? :confused: This forum is also for sale.....what is a Stevie fan supposed to do????????? Stevie has been out there performing for her fans.....in the media eye alot more......No. 2 Standback on Billboard Dance Club Play......she is HOT lately!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kathy1
07-31-2007, 07:25 AM
i don't know what happened? hopefully it will be back up soon. or another one could pop up somewhere.
The boards should consider a merger...The Seven Ledges has a nice ring.:laugh:
Ghost_Tracker
07-31-2007, 11:46 AM
The boards should consider a merger...The Seven Ledges has a nice ring.:laugh:
Is it rude to point out that there's probably already "irreconcilable differences?" :shrug: :nod:
Gypsy-Rhiannon
07-31-2007, 12:51 PM
The boards should consider a merger...The Seven Ledges has a nice ring.:laugh:
That would definitely be the end of the ledge!!
Musicman408
07-31-2007, 01:13 PM
That would definitely be the end of the ledge!!
Stole the words right out of my mouth Pip.
DeeGeMe
07-31-2007, 03:04 PM
The one thing I really liked about 7W was that it made it very easy to add to my demo/outtake collection. Good thing I mostly got everything I wanted if it's history.
TrueFaith77
07-31-2007, 03:32 PM
7 Wonders is gone?!?!:shocked:
eric51078
07-31-2007, 04:02 PM
What happened?
KristinG
07-31-2007, 04:44 PM
What happened?
Hey Eric, are you the same Eric I met at Mohegan?
Anyway - I don't think anyone knows what happened. Whether the site is down or gone completely...
steviefan59
07-31-2007, 05:27 PM
hi all...maybe they just took a little va k like the ledge did a couple of weeks ago...hey if all else fails then we still have enchanted and stevie nicks info for informative stevie news and fan chat...take care...pat
Kelly
07-31-2007, 05:39 PM
I got quite a few rare photos over there...ones that were not posted here until people saw them there. Lots of Hi Res. and photo agency pics without the watermarks. One or two posters also shared a bunch of rare pics. That was one good thing about the place. :lol:
But, if ya'll don't want an images forum here, we will have to deal.
Sugar
07-31-2007, 05:43 PM
I can't imagine that there will be any changes until the sale of the site goes through.
SortaSavageLike
07-31-2007, 05:44 PM
You can all raid my photobucket if you want. I have a feeling it won't be getting much bigger after The Wizard changed my password and won't let me sign in to 7W. :rolleyes:
pwyll
07-31-2007, 07:46 PM
The "Wizard".....ha
eric51078
07-31-2007, 07:50 PM
Hey Eric, are you the same Eric I met at Mohegan?
Anyway - I don't think anyone knows what happened. Whether the site is down or gone completely...
Hey Kristin!!! It's me!!! Did you get the link to the video I sent you?
carrie721
07-31-2007, 07:54 PM
I got quite a few rare photos over there...ones that were not posted here until people saw them there. Lots of Hi Res. and photo agency pics without the watermarks. One or two posters also shared a bunch of rare pics. That was one good thing about the place. :lol:
But, if ya'll don't want an images forum here, we will have to deal.
people share photos here :shrug: i don't think it was the images forum that brought all those rare photos to 7w, it was the people.
Kelly
07-31-2007, 08:00 PM
people share photos here :shrug: i don't think it was the images forum that brought all those rare photos to 7w, it was the people.
It was the people and most of the people that posted the rare pics over there, do not post here. I am fine with no images forum here, but I will miss the photos that were shared on Seven Members. Most of my rarer photos came from that board...thats all I was saying. Personally and this is just my opinion, but I do not think people post photos here, like they did on that particular forum. That was pretty much the only thing I liked about SM...the images that were shared. :nod:
The boards should consider a merger...The Seven Ledges has a nice ring.:laugh:
I'm sorry to be rude, but this is the second time you have said this, and how many people have to say that is a HORRIBLE idea, for you to stop suggesting it?
NO ONE thought that was a good idea the first time you said it, nor do they now.
If you are kidding, it wasn't funny the first time, nor is it now.
I hope the "other" board is gone, and done, and we would never have to hear about "it" again, I know everyone is VERY bored with the place still being dragged around...Good Riddance.
I am even sorry to mention it again, but I just get tired of this stupid "merge 7 members & the ledge" posts. YAWN.
I just hope the Ledge continues in the same fashion the owners have been doing for years, purchased by some one or ones who have good thoughts and plans for it :)
carrie721
07-31-2007, 08:18 PM
I'm sorry to be rude, but this is the second time you have said this, and how many people have to say that is a HORRIBLE idea, for you to stop suggesting it?
NO ONE thought that was a good idea the first time you said it, nor do they now.
well i don't think anyone's taking that suggestion seriously except for you, so you have nothing to worry about. chill. please.
well i don't think anyone's taking that suggestion seriously except for you, so you have nothing to worry about. chill. please.
Sure, Miss Carrie. No worries. Chillin' for ya.
carrie721
07-31-2007, 08:38 PM
Sure, Miss Carrie. No worries. Chillin' for ya.
what a throwback. nobody's called me that since i worked for kindercare.
what a throwback. nobody's called me that since i worked for kindercare.
LOL. :thumbsup: YAY!
jannieC
07-31-2007, 08:45 PM
what a throwback. nobody's called me that since i worked for kindercare.
Barbara has Southern charm. ;)
Barbara has Southern charm. ;)
Why thank you, Miss Jannie!
I think it is nice to call people that sometimes,
and I don't know Carrie, and she has many more posts and such here,
so I was respecting her wish :)
SandyMac
07-31-2007, 09:01 PM
Okay, who is all in for coming up for the "Save The Ledge Fund" to buy the board? :nod: I would donate. Seriously. I would.
I'm sorry to be rude, but this is the second time you have said this, and how many people have to say that is a HORRIBLE idea, for you to stop suggesting it?
NO ONE thought that was a good idea the first time you said it, nor do they now.
If you are kidding, it wasn't funny the first time, nor is it now.
I hope the "other" board is gone, and done, and we would never have to hear about "it" again, I know everyone is VERY bored with the place still being dragged around...Good Riddance.
I am even sorry to mention it again, but I just get tired of this stupid "merge 7 members & the ledge" posts. YAWN.
I just hope the Ledge continues in the same fashion the owners have been doing for years, purchased by some one or ones who have good thoughts and plans for it :)
C'mon Barbara...it's just a big JOKE!!! SO WHAT?
C'mon Barbara...it's just a big JOKE!!! SO WHAT?
Glad you meant it as a joke, then! :laugh:
I thought for min, you were serious...
Tango
08-01-2007, 08:03 AM
Okay, who is all in for coming up for the "Save The Ledge Fund" to buy the board? :nod: I would donate. Seriously. I would.
Two problems.
1-People don't donate NOW. Look at the list of sponsors. There's not a lot of people supporting this site, now or ever. It's always been Marty and Lis that carried the burden. And this site has always been totally open to everyone, without having to "join up" to read it (like the Leg Board), or to see the pretty pictures/or listen to the demos (like 7 Wonders), etc. You could join in the Q&As without being a member of "The Ledge." This site has truly been for the fans. It's never been about egos. And yet the owners have every right to be proud of what has been accomplished here.
2-It's not about saving just The Ledge, the "board" portion of the website. It's about saving the entire Penguin site.
DeeGeMe
08-01-2007, 11:46 AM
It was the people and most of the people that posted the rare pics over there, do not post here. I am fine with no images forum here, but I will miss the photos that were shared on Seven Members. Most of my rarer photos came from that board...thats all I was saying. Personally and this is just my opinion, but I do not think people post photos here, like they did on that particular forum. That was pretty much the only thing I liked about SM...the images that were shared. :nod:
That and the demo section, yes, agreed. :nod: That's was pretty much the only reasons I went to that board. But at least i got what I got when it was available.
go6car
08-01-2007, 01:22 PM
Just curious - exactly how much does it cost to have these websites and boards and such? Like just a ball park figure......
Just curious - exactly how much does it cost to have these websites and boards and such? Like just a ball park figure......
The owners here said it was like a "utility bill"...so a couple of hundred dollars a month for server rental. That wouldn't include acquisition costs or programming upgrades. Anybody know more?
SandyMac
08-01-2007, 07:39 PM
Two problems.
1-People don't donate NOW. Look at the list of sponsors. There's not a lot of people supporting this site, now or ever. It's always been Marty and Lis that carried the burden. And this site has always been totally open to everyone, without having to "join up" to read it (like the Leg Board), or to see the pretty pictures/or listen to the demos (like 7 Wonders), etc. You could join in the Q&As without being a member of "The Ledge." This site has truly been for the fans. It's never been about egos. And yet the owners have every right to be proud of what has been accomplished here.
2-It's not about saving just The Ledge, the "board" portion of the website. It's about saving the entire Penguin site.
I meant donate to purchase the site up front. (kind of like a group investment) And of course if you donate to purchase upfront, you would want to donate to keep your investment running. To me, The Ledge and Penguin are the same thing, so I just didn't mean the message board, I meant the whole site, because without the Penguin, there is no Ledge. Kind of like an investment in our fandom for anything Fleetwood Mac to keep the community going strong and still remain open to everyone.
The reason I am proud of this board is the fact that the operators did not stipulate a fee to join. I meant no disrespect to Marty and Lisa, quite the opposite. They should be very proud of The Penguin and am sad at the idea of it disappearing. :(
enchanted
08-02-2007, 12:25 AM
What happened with seven wonders it just vanished.???????:shrug: ....no notice....we need our Fleetwood Mac ....Stevie fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nod:
MrsMcVie
08-02-2007, 01:09 AM
I'm sorry to be rude, but this is the second time you have said this, and how many people have to say that is a HORRIBLE idea, for you to stop suggesting it?
NO ONE thought that was a good idea the first time you said it, nor do they now.
If you are kidding, it wasn't funny the first time, nor is it now.
I hope the "other" board is gone, and done, and we would never have to hear about "it" again, I know everyone is VERY bored with the place still being dragged around...Good Riddance.
I am even sorry to mention it again, but I just get tired of this stupid "merge 7 members & the ledge" posts. YAWN.
I just hope the Ledge continues in the same fashion the owners have been doing for years, purchased by some one or ones who have good thoughts and plans for it :)
I apologize beforehand if this is a stupid question, but why all this hostility between SW and The Ledge? We´re all FM fans after all and I don´t see why there shouldn´t be room for both. Personally I like both sites and I check in everyday to see if anything new has happened, so I would be very sad to see any of them go down for good.
I´m not saying that I like or agree with everything that is posted over there (SW) OR here for that matter, but if there´s a thread or something else I don´t like I just stay away from it. I really think it´s as simple as that.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject so please don´t kill me!:)
Ghost_Tracker
08-02-2007, 02:09 AM
What happened with seven wonders it just vanished.???????:shrug: ....no notice....we need our Fleetwood Mac ....Stevie fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nod:
"The Wizard" shut it down with as much respect and sympathy as he considers to be necessary towards the persons who were loyal members of his board for the past few months and years; and with the same amount of consideration which he has shown to Fleetwood Mac, Stevie and Lindsey fans as he has demonstrated in the past.
enchanted
08-02-2007, 07:18 AM
"The Wizard" shut it down with as much respect and sympathy as he considers to be necessary towards the persons who were loyal members of his board for the past few months and years; and with the same amount of consideration which he has shown to Fleetwood Mac, Stevie and Lindsey fans as he has demonstrated in the past.
Is there any chance for it to start up again????? Not really fair to all the members...I really looked forward ,everyday,to reading and participating in that forum....as I do this forum. If these forums are gone it isn't fair to the Mac fandom. We appreciate the time and effort it takes to keep these forums running !!!!! It is sad to see them both go!!!!!! Thanks for explanation. There is not much left for a Mac fan on the web. The Nicks fix could be more up to date........Stevie Nicks Info. Is GREAT!!!!!!!!
I apologize beforehand if this is a stupid question, but why all this hostility between SW and The Ledge? We´re all FM fans after all and I don´t see why there shouldn´t be room for both. Personally I like both sites and I check in everyday to see if anything new has happened, so I would be very sad to see any of them go down for good.
I´m not saying that I like or agree with everything that is posted over there (SW) OR here for that matter, but if there´s a thread or something else I don´t like I just stay away from it. I really think it´s as simple as that.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject so please don´t kill me!:)
Hi Mrs McVie!
Honestly, most of my hostility is toward the Board Owner/Op of 7W.
For banning me + over 40 other longtime members, supporting paid members, etc. with NO REASON, just instantly. I think those of us that got banned wish to see the board go down because of the crappy treatment we were given by "the board" (board owner). Those who were banned contributed a lot of fun and interesting info, photos, facts, etc. and were just given the boot, after being members/moderators/etc for YEARS. I am sure you can understand why that would create Negative feelings toward that place, and some (not all) of it's remaining members. Some of the remaining members have multiple user IDs (BWitches/B Witches/Michelle/Belladonna band, blah blah blah) or just LUNATICS (Mystic Owl/Funnylittledancer/Ocie/Mary/BlackInkDarkness + too many false names to write) + some other "unsavory" characters. But, there are over 1,000 members I think, so I am sure some of them are very NICE and FINE people, I still hear from a few of the "good ones" that remain, they don't understand the bannings, as the Wiz locks all threads, deletes posts, etc. to make sure the truth is NOT told.
I hope that explains, a bit, why there is hostility from some of us. Others may have different reasons, but I know that is mine.
I enjoyed the 7W board since 2005, but to be treated like that, for no reason, and now to see the Chaos there, well, it makes me glad to have a board like THIS and ThreadJackers, where the fun is REAL, and you don't have to pretend to like people for fear of getting banned, or scorned, etc. like a child.
:)
kathy1
08-02-2007, 07:44 AM
i am sorry to see it down too. i never had any problems over there. i guess i will stay here now.
Mywyldhrt
08-02-2007, 08:03 AM
I apologize beforehand if this is a stupid question, but why all this hostility between SW and The Ledge? We´re all FM fans after all and I don´t see why there shouldn´t be room for both. Personally I like both sites and I check in everyday to see if anything new has happened, so I would be very sad to see any of them go down for good.
I´m not saying that I like or agree with everything that is posted over there (SW) OR here for that matter, but if there´s a thread or something else I don´t like I just stay away from it. I really think it´s as simple as that.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject so please don´t kill me!:)
My thoughts exactly.......:shrug:
WildInTheWind
08-02-2007, 12:18 PM
My thoughts exactly.......:shrug:
Why hello there Donna. How have you been? :)
skcin
08-02-2007, 12:34 PM
I apologize beforehand if this is a stupid question, but why all this hostility between SW and The Ledge? We´re all FM fans after all and I don´t see why there shouldn´t be room for both. Personally I like both sites and I check in everyday to see if anything new has happened, so I would be very sad to see any of them go down for good.
I´m not saying that I like or agree with everything that is posted over there (SW) OR here for that matter, but if there´s a thread or something else I don´t like I just stay away from it. I really think it´s as simple as that.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject so please don´t kill me!:)
It started long before this recent little 7W brouhaha. A couple years ago (2?) The Ledge was down with technical difficulties. Brian created 7W so people could still keep in touch & chat. Well, after The Ledge was fixed, some came back, some did not, some went to both. Since you've been to both, you're well aware that there are two very different vibes on the boards. I was at both briefly, but came back here in a hurry. People on both The Ledge and 7W started talking **** about the "other" board & their members and it became like a rivalry. " That article was posted at 7W first, you know!" Crap like that. :rolleyes: Really dumb. People have too much time on their hands, and/or they take the internet way too seriously.
Mywyldhrt
08-02-2007, 02:48 PM
Why hello there Donna. How have you been? :)
hanging in there Becky...and you????
Mywyldhrt
08-02-2007, 02:55 PM
Why hello there Donna. How have you been? :)
I've been hanging in there. How about you????:thumbsup:
eric51078
08-02-2007, 03:08 PM
Hi Mrs McVie!
Honestly, most of my hostility is toward the Board Owner/Op of 7W.
For banning me + over 40 other longtime members, supporting paid members, etc. with NO REASON, just instantly. I think those of us that got banned wish to see the board go down because of the crappy treatment we were given by "the board" (board owner). Those who were banned contributed a lot of fun and interesting info, photos, facts, etc. and were just given the boot, after being members/moderators/etc for YEARS. I am sure you can understand why that would create Negative feelings toward that place, and some (not all) of it's remaining members. Some of the remaining members have multiple user IDs (BWitches/B Witches/Michelle/Belladonna band, blah blah blah) or just LUNATICS (Mystic Owl/Funnylittledancer/Ocie/Mary/BlackInkDarkness + too many false names to write) + some other "unsavory" characters. But, there are over 1,000 members I think, so I am sure some of them are very NICE and FINE people, I still hear from a few of the "good ones" that remain, they don't understand the bannings, as the Wiz locks all threads, deletes posts, etc. to make sure the truth is NOT told.
I hope that explains, a bit, why there is hostility from some of us. Others may have different reasons, but I know that is mine.
I enjoyed the 7W board since 2005, but to be treated like that, for no reason, and now to see the Chaos there, well, it makes me glad to have a board like THIS and ThreadJackers, where the fun is REAL, and you don't have to pretend to like people for fear of getting banned, or scorned, etc. like a child.
:)
Barbara,
It's so good to have you back!
eric51078
08-02-2007, 03:09 PM
It started long before this recent little 7W brouhaha. A couple years ago (2?) The Ledge was down with technical difficulties. Brian created 7W so people could still keep in touch & chat. Well, after The Ledge was fixed, some came back, some did not, some went to both. Since you've been to both, you're well aware that there are two very different vibes on the boards. I was at both briefly, but came back here in a hurry. People on both The Ledge and 7W started talking **** about the "other" board & their members and it became like a rivalry. " That article was posted at 7W first, you know!" Crap like that. :rolleyes: Really dumb. People have too much time on their hands, and/or they take the internet way too seriously.
Amen Paula...could not have said it better myself.
WildInTheWind
08-02-2007, 03:34 PM
I've been hanging in there. How about you????:thumbsup:
Oh I'm fan****intastic! :nod:
Mywyldhrt
08-02-2007, 03:40 PM
Oh I'm fan****intastic! :nod:
How's the new board????
WildInTheWind
08-02-2007, 04:19 PM
How's the new board????
It's excellent. In fact, it was added to Stevie-Nicks.info under forums with a fabulous description. :thumbsup:
http://www.stevie-nicks.info/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=9&Itemid=186
Barbara,
It's so good to have you back!
Thank you so much, what a nice thing to hear :)
You made my night!
I am happy to be back!
eric51078
08-02-2007, 07:03 PM
Thank you so much, what a nice thing to hear :)
You made my night!
I am happy to be back!
I was very upset when I heard you were banned from SW...such a kind gal so YAY welcome!!
I was very upset when I heard you were banned from SW...such a kind gal so YAY welcome!!
Thank you so much, that is so nice of you, and I am very happy to be welcomed so wonderfully :xoxo:
Steviefan49
08-02-2007, 07:40 PM
My thoughts exactly.......:shrug:
Hey Girlfriend...
Glad to see you made it over! :thumbsup: :blob2:
starshine
08-02-2007, 07:55 PM
Hi everyone: I kinda left for 7 wonders sometime ago...hope you don't mind me back here. I was kinda 'new' to these message board things at that time so I don't have many posts here. I had over 800 at 7 wonders...no brag at all....I learned alot. I was so sorry to 'hear' tid bits of what occured there. I really didn't have problems with the people that were banned. I hope this site stays up.....my user name there was 'crystalmirror'.....so I hope you don't mind me being back here again.....I enjoy discussing Stevie/Fmac with everyone.......:]
Sue:lol:
jannieC
08-02-2007, 08:42 PM
Hi everyone: I kinda left for 7 wonders sometime ago...hope you don't mind me back here. I was kinda 'new' to these message board things at that time so I don't have many posts here. I had over 800 at 7 wonders...no brag at all....I learned alot. I was so sorry to 'hear' tid bits of what occured there. I really didn't have problems with the people that were banned. I hope this site stays up.....my user name there was 'crystalmirror'.....so I hope you don't mind me being back here again.....I enjoy discussing Stevie/Fmac with everyone.......:]
Sue:lol:
Hi Sue- nice to meet you. :wavey:
Hi everyone: I kinda left for 7 wonders sometime ago...hope you don't mind me back here. I was kinda 'new' to these message board things at that time so I don't have many posts here. I had over 800 at 7 wonders...no brag at all....I learned alot. I was so sorry to 'hear' tid bits of what occured there. I really didn't have problems with the people that were banned. I hope this site stays up.....my user name there was 'crystalmirror'.....so I hope you don't mind me being back here again.....I enjoy discussing Stevie/Fmac with everyone.......:]
Sue:lol:
Hi Sue,
I remember a "Starshine" that was a Society Chat leader on 7W. Was/is that you?:confused:
Hi everyone: I kinda left for 7 wonders sometime ago...hope you don't mind me back here. I was kinda 'new' to these message board things at that time so I don't have many posts here. I had over 800 at 7 wonders...no brag at all....I learned alot. I was so sorry to 'hear' tid bits of what occured there. I really didn't have problems with the people that were banned. I hope this site stays up.....my user name there was 'crystalmirror'.....so I hope you don't mind me being back here again.....I enjoy discussing Stevie/Fmac with everyone.......:]
Sue:lol:
Hi Sue!
Nice to see you here! :wavey:
Another good egg to the batch...
Kelly
08-02-2007, 11:47 PM
Hi Sue,
I remember a "Starshine" that was a Society Chat leader on 7W. Was/is that you?:confused:
She just said her user name was CrystalMirror on Seven Members. :shrug:
It was someone else who moderated Society Chat. Obviously another fan who likes Stevie's demo "Starshine". :nod:
kathy1
08-03-2007, 07:57 AM
hi starshine welcome to the board.
Mywyldhrt
08-03-2007, 09:34 AM
It's excellent. In fact, it was added to Stevie-Nicks.info under forums with a fabulous description. :thumbsup:
http://www.stevie-nicks.info/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=9&Itemid=186
Wow!!!!:blob2: how long did it take you to put it all together?? That must have been quite the effort!:wavey:
WildInTheWind
08-03-2007, 10:58 AM
Wow!!!!:blob2: how long did it take you to put it all together?? That must have been quite the effort!:wavey:
All of about 10 minutes. Brash and irreverent just seems to come naturally to me.
Kelly
08-03-2007, 02:34 PM
All of about 10 minutes. Brash and irreverent just seems to come naturally to me.
:xoxo:
;)
Highwayman
08-03-2007, 03:10 PM
And I am still around... Not posting much, but reading when I can... :D
The brouhaha over at 7W was over the top. Really unreasonable. But it was a private board with rules, reasonable or not. We're all at the mercy of board owners, but if it is bad somewhere, we go somewhere else more welcoming and reasonable.
We're all here because we are not all there... :wavey:
Steviefan49
08-03-2007, 03:30 PM
And I am still around... Not posting much, but reading when I can... :D
The brouhaha over at 7W was over the top. Really unreasonable. But it was a private board with rules, reasonable or not. We're all at the mercy of board owners, but if it is bad somewhere, we go somewhere else more welcoming and reasonable.
We're all here because we are not all there... :wavey:
:thumbsup: Good one! LOL.. I'll vote for that! LMAO.. :lol: (love the puns)
starshine
08-05-2007, 11:39 AM
Hi Sue,
I remember a "Starshine" that was a Society Chat leader on 7W. Was/is that you?:confused:Hi: No that wasn't me...I was 'Crystalmirror' on 7 wonders....I didn't go to the society chat much just the Stevie/Fmac etc music stuff alot/mostly....I did try to have my login name as starshine but it was taken.....so I went with crystalmirror.....I love the song Starshine though...one of my favorite unreleased Stevie songs....with so many others.....I so wish she would release a 'special' package like that....I guess we can 'dream' can't we.....anyway....hope to have great discussions here with everyone.....:D
Mywyldhrt
08-08-2007, 09:36 AM
All of about 10 minutes. Brash and irreverent just seems to come naturally to me.
Brash and irreverant?????:shrug: is that like obnoxoius comes to me???:lol:
WildInTheWind
08-08-2007, 05:28 PM
Brash and irreverant?????:shrug: is that like obnoxoius comes to me???:lol:
Apparently so.
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