Lindsey Mention in Page Six ~ Carol Harris Book [Archive]

Pisces Queen

07-02-2007, 10:04 AM

A NEW Fleetwood Mac kiss-and-tell could be nicknamed "Blow Your Own Way," considering the massive amounts of cocaine and other drugs that were consumed during the legendary band's heyday. In her book, "Storms: My Life with Lindsey Buckingham and Fleetwood Mac," Buckingham's ex-girlfriend, Carol Ann Harris, tells how the rocker had indulged in lots of beer, shots of Jack Daniel's and "California gold" when he was "unwittingly" slipped a Quaalude during the 1978 American Music Awards, The Post's Kyle Smith reports. In addition, "vials of cocaine were dumped on the backs of wrists whenever the lights darkened." When the group won Album of the Year, Harris says, Buckingham approached the stage "looking like a character from a B-movie who'd been shot . . . his superhuman effort was leading him to the opposite side of the stage." Harris rushed backstage to find the "reeking" guitarist-singer sitting on a couch in host Dick Clark's office, looking at a puddle of his own "disgusting biohazard" vomit, which had been freshly hurled upon the "foot-deep carpet." Clark "was staring at Lindsey as though he were something nasty that he just scraped off the bottom of his shoe," Harris writes. Hustled out by Clark's security, Buckingham continued to "projectile vomit" all over the back seat of the limo on the way home. The fiasco was smoothly edited out of the TV broadcast, and the next morning, Buckingham, wearing a gigantic sombrero and "grinning like an inmate from an insane asylum," commanded Harris, "Don't tell me anything about last night." At the Grammys the same year, Buckingham saw country great Kenny Rogers walk by and called out, "Oh, my God! Look at the [bleep]in' pancake makeup! It's gotta be four inches thick." When Rogers turned and glared, Harris thought, "I really didn't want to have my fairytale night spoiled by a fight between Kenny Rogers and my man." Meanwhile, Buckingham was just getting started, saying, "Kenny, hey, Kennnnny! Man, love your makeup! Really, you look great, cowboy!" Rogers elected not to fight.

Although this is her version it is a bit funny. I am still on the fence about buying her book. What do you guys think?

anusha1

07-02-2007, 10:14 AM

I am on the fence, but I have decided against buying the book. I don't know what to think about the allegations about Lindsey being abusive. Carol Ann did appear on one of those daytime talk shows where she discussed the abuse, in particular, and there are the infamous passages of Mick's book, that Stevie has said are not true.

Let me start by saying that I am an LB fan more than any other member of the band. I would guess that there was some drug-fueled phyiscal stuff, which does not justify taking a hand to anyone, but I don't believe that he never hit a girlfriend of his. There's too much information (even if flawed) out there to the contrary.

That said, I don't want to support what is clearly an effort to cash in on a private relationship by throwing mud on Lindsey to sell books. I'm not reading the Tina Brown bio of Diana either for the same reason.

Sahara

07-02-2007, 10:26 AM

Trash ~ she shouldn't have done it. Just my €0.02!

Betsy

07-02-2007, 01:40 PM

A NEW Fleetwood Mac kiss-and-tell...

... At the Grammys the same year, Buckingham saw country great Kenny Rogers walk by and called out, "Oh, my God! Look at the [bleep]in' pancake makeup! It's gotta be four inches thick." When Rogers turned and glared, Harris thought, "I really didn't want to have my fairytale night spoiled by a fight between Kenny Rogers and my man." Meanwhile, Buckingham was just getting started, saying, "Kenny, hey, Kennnnny! Man, love your makeup! Really, you look great, cowboy!" Rogers elected not to fight.

Although this is her version it is a bit funny. I am still on the fence about buying her book. What do you guys think?

I haven't gotten to this passage yet because, alas, I am such a slow reader.

It did remind me of the incident with John Lennon when he heckled the Smothers Brothers who were on stage. I can't remember who was with Lennon at the time -- maybe Harry Nillson -- but Tommy Smothers took it in stride and said something like -- "Hey, he's a big star, much bigger than us."

Maybe Lindsey was immature at the time and regrets that incident with Kenny Rogers. I would guess, that is the case.

This whole book thing does make me want to re-watch those 1977 Rumours/Japan outtakes tapes to see CAH and how she acts. I wonder if the cameraman was able to pick up the halo on top of her head?

Sahara

07-02-2007, 01:43 PM

I wonder if the cameraman was able to pick up the halo on top of her head?

*gigglesnort* :wavey:

LukeA

07-02-2007, 01:49 PM

At the Grammys the same year, Buckingham saw country great Kenny Rogers walk by and called out, "Oh, my God! Look at the [bleep]in' pancake makeup! It's gotta be four inches thick." When Rogers turned and glared, Harris thought, "I really didn't want to have my fairytale night spoiled by a fight between Kenny Rogers and my man." Meanwhile, Buckingham was just getting started, saying, "Kenny, hey, Kennnnny! Man, love your makeup! Really, you look great, cowboy!" Rogers elected not to fight.

LOL. Kenny Rogers.

BTFLCHLD

07-02-2007, 02:11 PM

:lol:

http://hollywood.outsidethebeltway.com/2007/07/fleetwood-mac-did-drugs/

Fleetwood Mac Did Drugs! :shocked:
James Joyner @ Gone Hollywood | Monday, July 2, 2007

It must be a slow news day at Page 6, which is touting the news that Lindsey Buckingham got drunk and stoned when he was fronting the rock and roll band Fleetwood Mac in the 1970s!

Um, wasn’t it pretty widely known back then that the Fleetwood Mac gang was doing drugs? Indeed, the list of prominent 1970s rock bands not doing drugs would likely be countable on one hand without resorting to the use of the thumb. Or three of the fingers.

So, let’s get this straight: A drunk rock star made fun of Kenny Rogers?!

And that Rogers, at the time a mature man of 40 perhaps most famous for “The Gambler” and “Coward of the County,” which counseled the need to know “when to walk away and when to run” and “Walk away from trouble if you can,” respectively, didn’t decide this was worth getting into a fistfight at the Grammy’s, isn’t exactly earth shattering news, either.

Boots

07-02-2007, 02:17 PM

I have to admit, whenever I look back on Lindsey during his Tusk days, whether MTV interviews/appearances or just general body language on stage with FM in old videos, he does exude a prick-ish vibe about him. I sense that when the big fame hit, he went majorly mental, and was generally a first class rock star asshole. He also began having epileptic seizures which must have been triggered by the drugs, the hectic pace of fast living and major stress. His demons came out in full force.

I sense the man is horribly sorry today. I bet he has learned many painful lessons throughout the years, and has healed to the point where he probably doesn't wish to revisit those darks days. If he did, he'd probably projectile vomit. Oh wait, he already did that.

trackaghost

07-02-2007, 03:14 PM

Betsy

07-02-2007, 04:20 PM

I have to admit, whenever I look back on Lindsey during his Tusk days...

... and has healed to the point where he probably doesn't wish to revisit those darks days. If he did, he'd probably projectile vomit. Oh wait, he already did that.

I love your insight, (but more importantly your sense of humor!) It makes me smile.

shackin'up

07-02-2007, 05:39 PM

I'm sorry but that's hilarious. I've gone from mildly interested in this book, to can't wait to read it. "Kenny, hey, Kennnnny! Man, love your makeup! Really, you look great, cowboy!" Haha! Love it!

me too... ofcourse he was a prick when stoned and drunk and rich and famous and hurt and megalomane and insecure and brilliant and dumb and annoying and drunk and stoned.

well, I would be one too. I need that book. Like I ate Mick's. Man, the coke fell from the pages in that one.

danax6

07-02-2007, 05:59 PM

gldstwmn

07-03-2007, 12:22 PM

The Kenny Rogers anecdote had me in stitches.

BTFLCHLD

07-03-2007, 12:55 PM

Kenny Rogers...in stiches <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/YAHOO/31.gif">
http://i11.tinypic.com/5x91z4k.jpg

jbrownsjr

07-03-2007, 12:58 PM

I said it before... A person has every right to write about, sell, and tell stories about occurances they have seen with their own eyes... It wasn't like she was a journalist, she was invited. It's her life and her stories, and if people are willing to buy it, I have no problem with it.....

I have to say, some of these stories are really funny... they don't change my opinion about LB at all... He is an amazing guitarist and a bitch.... I didn't need a book to figure that out... Then again... he's no better or worse than any other FM member..

I bought the new Rush CD... and I wanted to get over 30 bucks for free shipping so I bought it... I hope it's great FM reading... I like Sara Fleetwood and Dennis Wilson too...

Is it so surprising that people doing coke and booze 24 hours are going to get physical? I have always, been a Storm.....

Chrislit18

07-03-2007, 01:31 PM

I put the '****ing pancake makeup' on my myspace :laugh:
Even though he was all jacked up on something, its fcking hilarious! and i think it makes me like him more!
i hate kenny rogers just to be fair

PS-im wearing my lindsey shirt today :wavey:

gldstwmn

07-03-2007, 02:19 PM

http://i11.tinypic.com/5x91z4k.jpg

No disrespect to Kenny but I think he and Dolly Parton are in competition for the Who had the most plastic surgery crown. :laugh:

jbrownsjr

07-03-2007, 06:20 PM

:lol: No disrespect to Kenny but I think he and Dolly Parton are in competition for the Who had the most plastic surgery crown. :laugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Betsy

07-03-2007, 06:44 PM

http://i11.tinypic.com/5x91z4k.jpg

Instead of pancake make-up, it looks like some guy hit him with some superglue and then put the vacuum cleaner hose on top of his head...

Do you suppose the smile is due to the vacuum cleaner effect? (Everything on his face is "smiling" .

Betsy

07-03-2007, 06:45 PM

BTW

Hey Btlfchld -- great photo post. I am still smiling at Kenny's grin and being so proud of himself and his new look.

dontlookdown

07-04-2007, 02:38 AM

This book is depressing! Clearly this woman is desperate and needed to do something to fund her cosmetic surgery. How pathetic that she has to write about a time that everyone else seems to have moved on from - many years ago!
Is anyone really interested in reading National Enquirer-style "reporting" on the back stage drug antics of Fleetwood Mac?
Aside from the E-Street Band, what giant rock band from this era didn't do tons of drugs? Who cares?!
Carol Harris - please go do something with your life. Volunteer. Clean up some garbage on Santa Monica beach.
But please spare us your unchecked anger. Lindsey Buckingham moved on. You should too. And find some other way to support yourself instead of attempting to milk the Fleetwood Mac machine. The band has talent. You don't.

Sahara

07-04-2007, 05:23 AM

carol7lynn

07-04-2007, 06:21 PM

That Pic of Kenny-What a Hoot! :lol:

He and Burt Reynolds (whom I love) look like they used the same plastic surgeon. But that make-up looks like day-glow! Too funny!:]

Kelly

07-04-2007, 10:48 PM

What is Harris doing these days [apart from this]?
I know she said she gave up a career *snort* for Lindsey, but what's her day job these days?
Whether she should give it up for the writing or not.... :rolleyes:

She says she is a costume designer, for film, music videos and commercials. She lives in LA. The photo of her in the back of the book is recent and she still looks very much like Stevie. Long flowing blonde hair with bangs. :rolleyes:

trackaghost

07-05-2007, 06:43 AM

She says she is a costume designer, for film, music videos and commercials. She lives in LA. The photo of her in the back of the book is recent and she still looks very much like Stevie. Long flowing blonde hair with bangs. :rolleyes:

To be fair, Stevie doesn't have a patent on that long flowing locks look.

CAH is on the imdb and according that, she has worked on film, music videos and commercials:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0364515/

If you look under Other Works, she's apparently worked on a lot of music videos over the years, some pretty famous, including Fleetwood Mac's post-Lindsey effort Save Me bizarrely enough.

danax6

07-05-2007, 07:07 AM

If you look under Other Works, she's apparently worked on a lot of music videos over the years, some pretty famous, including Fleetwood Mac's post-Lindsey effort Save Me bizarrely enough.Yes, which is another thing... in the book she says she tried to steer clear of Lindsey all day during shooting, but...

...he wasn't even there. :laugh:

Sahara

07-05-2007, 08:21 AM

Yes, which is another thing... in the book she says she tried to steer clear of Lindsey all day during shooting, but...

...he wasn't even there. :laugh:

*rolling on the floor incapacitated with laughter* Don't tell me you're serious!!! :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

Kelly

07-05-2007, 02:10 PM

Of course Stevie doesn't hold the patent on long blonde hair...my point was she still looks very much like Stevie. She always did and still does. Although time has been much, much kinder to Stevie. :p

mgikallaroundme

07-05-2007, 09:07 PM

Still taking this book seriously? :lol: :lol: :lol:

These 3 total falsehoods posted by readers aren't enough for fans to see this book is nothing but a fairy tale?

If you look under Other Works, she's apparently worked on a lot of music videos over the years, some pretty famous, including Fleetwood Mac's post-Lindsey effort Save Me bizarrely enough.

Yes, which is another thing... in the book she says she tried to steer clear of Lindsey all day during shooting, but...

...he wasn't even there.

Buckingham quit the band years before the Save Me video. :laugh:

One thing that is completely off is her recollection of Lindsey's illness during the Rumours tour. She says it all took place in 1977, the big collapse and the subsequent spinal tap and him having to take medication three times a day, every day.

She mentions her being the one that looked out for him and made sure he took his pills, she even talks about this when she describes the events of the 1978 AMA awards, which were in January of that year. She talks about being the one that had to do all the damage control during that time, because the band didn't care about Lindsey.

But guess what? Lindsey's collapse and everything else that followed didn't happen until the summer of 1978. 6 months after all the award shows.

You called it correctly, but who cares? :shrug:

After Buckingham suffered a ten-minute grand mal seizure the morning before a 1977 show in Philadelphia, Harris thought he was dying. But Mick Fleetwood resisted taking Buckingham to a hospital, saying that Lindsey would be “fine” when he woke up and he wanted to ask him if he could play the show after his “little attack.” Buckingham did indeed go on, with an ambulance waiting, but at one point stopped, put his head down and leaned against a speaker. Afterward, Nicks rushed up to Harris and said, “I know just how you must be feeling! My poodle Jenny — I just love her to pieces — got shut inside the sunroom of my house in Phoenix and she almost died!”

Stevie never had a house in Phoenix in the 70s. She told Carol the story of her dog in 77? :shocked: She bought her first AZ house after she went solo in 1981.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z184/mgikman_photos/3_dollar_bill.jpg

Sahara

07-06-2007, 09:17 AM

Some of those inaccuracies may just be down to an unreliable memory [the house in Phoenix thing for example] but definitely not things like the Save Me video. Certain things could be just half-remembered, but the others are just blatantly made up nonsense.

danax6

07-06-2007, 09:22 AM

Still taking this book seriously? :lol: :lol: :lol:

These 3 total falsehoods posted by readers aren't enough for fans to see this book is nothing but a fairy tale?
[/IMG]Let me add another thing that doesn't add up:

Carol claims that the infamous photoshoot for the 1977 Rolling Stone cover, with the band portrayed in bed together, took place in Lindsey's house, in his spare bedroom. She says that shoot only took an hour and that everyone was on their merry way again right after that. She also makes no mention whatsoever what happened between Stevie and Lindsey during that shoot. But over the years we have received quite a few different stories from different people involved, including Christine, Lindsey, Stevie Annie Liebovitz herself. This is what Ms. Leibovitz had to say about the day in question: "I have a feeling the band had all gone through rehab or something," says Leibovitz, "and I brought out huge amounts of drugs, thinking that's what they wanted. They were not so happy about it, but everyone consumed everything, so we were all out to lunch. I brought the mattress and sheets."

This is what Stevie said: "Afterwards, Lindsey and I got to talking about how amazing it was that not so long ago I was a waitress and he didn't have a job, and now we were on the cover of Rolling Stone with this huge record. And we lay there for two hours talking and making out. Finally, Annie had to tell us to leave, because she had rented the room for only so long." Apparantly they spent some time making out and Annie had rented the room. That doesn't coincide with them only being there for an hour and it taking place in Lindsey's bedroom.

Lindsey's recollection: "So the idea for the photo wasn't all that funny. We had to compartmentalize our feelings to keep the band functional, and at the end of the session, we had this moment of not being able to avoid all that had been lost. We embraced for about fifteen minutes, and Mick finally came over and said that people were starting to get uncomfortable. I don't know how healthy all this display of our personal life was, but that's showbiz." Obviously something else went on, but Ms. Harris completely dismisses everything that didn't have to do with herself.

Betsy

07-06-2007, 02:30 PM

^^^^
Excellent post Vanessa. I am glad that you found those quotes from Annie, Stevie and Lindsey. I was thinking the same thing when I read that passage.

The photo shoot was so important, because it was the FIRST time FM appeared on the cover of Rolling Stone. (huh?) I remember an issue where Mick is dressed like a cheerleader (i.e. short red dress). The article is about the white Fleetwood Mac album. I thought THAT was the first cover of Rolling Stone that included the Lindsey/Stevie lineup.

Michelle Daya

07-07-2007, 07:55 PM

Let me add another thing that doesn't add up:

Carol claims that the infamous photoshoot for the 1977 Rolling Stone cover, with the band portrayed in bed together, took place in Lindsey's house, in his spare bedroom. She says that shoot only took an hour and that everyone was on their merry way again right after that. She also makes no mention whatsoever what happened between Stevie and Lindsey during that shoot. But over the years we have received quite a few different stories from different people involved, including Christine, Lindsey, Stevie Annie Liebovitz herself. This is what Ms. Leibovitz had to say about the day in question: "I have a feeling the band had all gone through rehab or something," says Leibovitz, "and I brought out huge amounts of drugs, thinking that's what they wanted. They were not so happy about it, but everyone consumed everything, so we were all out to lunch. I brought the mattress and sheets."

This is what Stevie said: "Afterwards, Lindsey and I got to talking about how amazing it was that not so long ago I was a waitress and he didn't have a job, and now we were on the cover of Rolling Stone with this huge record. And we lay there for two hours talking and making out. Finally, Annie had to tell us to leave, because she had rented the room for only so long." Apparantly they spent some time making out and Annie had rented the room. That doesn't coincide with them only being there for an hour and it taking place in Lindsey's bedroom.

Lindsey's recollection: "So the idea for the photo wasn't all that funny. We had to compartmentalize our feelings to keep the band functional, and at the end of the session, we had this moment of not being able to avoid all that had been lost. We embraced for about fifteen minutes, and Mick finally came over and said that people were starting to get uncomfortable. I don't know how healthy all this display of our personal life was, but that's showbiz." Obviously something else went on, but Ms. Harris completely dismisses everything that didn't have to do with herself.

stevie says 2 hours
lb says 15 minutes
cah says one hour start to finish
they "consumed everything"
:shrug:
think we can discredit everyone

Tango

07-07-2007, 08:31 PM

stevie says 2 hours
lb says 15 minutes
cah says one hour start to finish
they "consumed everything"
:shrug:
think we can discredit everyone

:laugh:

Stevie says "made out"
Lindsey says "embraced"
Mick says "people were starting to get uncomfortable?"

:laugh: I think HE was, especially!!!!

Kelly

07-07-2007, 11:03 PM

stevie says 2 hours
lb says 15 minutes
cah says one hour start to finish
they "consumed everything"
:shrug:
think we can discredit everyone

Sorry, I think I will choose to believe Miss Leibowicz, Lindsey, Stevie, and Christine over some scorned ex. :nod:

Betsy

07-08-2007, 01:37 AM

stevie says 2 hours
lb says 15 minutes
cah says one hour start to finish
they "consumed everything"
:shrug:
think we can discredit everyone

I am smiling and then cracking up laughing at your and then laterTango's comment. Laughing so loudly, that my teenagers and 21 year old just told me to shut up.

carol7lynn

07-08-2007, 12:08 PM

Exactly Right-Kelly.

Why anyone would believe a spurned ex is beyond me; especially someone of such questionable moral character. As you have so astutely pointed out in your insightful posts, she is an opportunist; a spiteful one at that (I might add.) Otherwise, why else would she wait until after Lindsey settled down and became a loving family-man, that had matured enough to mend fences with the Mac/Stevie, and garner critical accolades as a visionary musician in his own right.

I don't think she remained silenced because the Mac-members got lawyered up. She remained silent (as opposed to silenced) because like any snake in the grass, she calculatingly waited for an opportune moment to strike and spew-forth her venom. What better time to "strike out" than after Lindsey has turned his life around and doing so well on their own.

CarolC:nod: