Christine mention in Stevie article part 2

[Gailh]

I saw this on the Stevie board - I like to lurk there every now and then

"i was very pleasantly surprised at Borders today to see that Stevie is on the cover of the June 2007 'Performing Songwriter' magazine (Volume 14, Issue 102).

There's not quite as much typical Rumours-era rehash in the text, and Stevie, as ever, is quotable- most interesting to me is her assertion that she will not record with Fleetwood Mac again unless Christine re-joins, saying that "Absolutely not, not in this lifetime" will she make a new Fleetwood Mac cd without Christine. "Why? We already tried, and it did not work."

No pressure then Chris?

Some people seem to be of the opinion that this is just an excuse not to record with FM again or maybe she just needs her big sister there to protect her from the free flowing testosterone :laugh:

Gail

[nicepace]

Well, isn't that interesting; so Stevie agrees with me that FM recording without Christine ('Say You Will') "didn't work".

If Christine is retired, and Stevie won't record a FM album again without her, where does that leave Lindsey? He can't make a record with a rhythm section of Mick and John and call it "Fleetwood Mac"; the one consistency throughout all of FM's many lineup changes is that there has always been more than one lead singer/songwriter.

Maybe he could bring back Bob Welch and/or Jeremy Spencer.

[macfan 57]

I saw this on the Stevie board - I like to lurk there every now and then

"i was very pleasantly surprised at Borders today to see that Stevie is on the cover of the June 2007 'Performing Songwriter' magazine (Volume 14, Issue 102).

There's not quite as much typical Rumours-era rehash in the text, and Stevie, as ever, is quotable- most interesting to me is her assertion that she will not record with Fleetwood Mac again unless Christine re-joins, saying that "Absolutely not, not in this lifetime" will she make a new Fleetwood Mac cd without Christine. "Why? We already tried, and it did not work."

No pressure then Chris?

Some people seem to be of the opinion that this is just an excuse not to record with FM again or maybe she just needs her big sister there to protect her from the free flowing testosterone :laugh:

Gail

This is interesting. She's talking about Chris in alot of these interviews. I LOVE it!:thumbsup: I wonder if she's talked to Chris herself about this.

I don't think anyone in Fleetwood Mac ever talked about the Chris/Stevie/Lindsey dynamic before. I think Stevie considers Chris as sort of a buffer between her and Lindsey. I don't think it's an excuse not to record with Fleetwood Mac again. It sounds to me as if she genuinely misses Chris...that and the testosterone problem.:D

[macfan 57]

I saw this on the Stevie board - I like to lurk there every now and then.

Gail, what are you doing lurking on the Stevie board? :shocked: ;)

[Gailh]

This is interesting. She's talking about Chris in alot of these interviews. I LOVE it!:thumbsup: I wonder if she's talked to Chris herself about this.

I don't think anyone in Fleetwood Mac ever talked about the Chris/Stevie/Lindsey dynamic before. I think Stevie considers Chris as sort of a buffer between her and Lindsey. I don't think it's an excuse not to record with Fleetwood Mac again. It sounds to me as if she genuinely misses Chris...that and the testosterone problem.:D

It's good this isn't it?

I agree that Stevie genuinely misses Chris and didn't enjoy the recording of SYW without her there.

It's interesting that the last interview before this one I didn't know whether Stevie meant touring or recording when she said she didn't want to do it without Chris. Now I know for sure.

Well, well. I wonder what effect this will have on Ms McVie and as you say I wonder if she's spoken to Chris herself.

Gail

[Gailh]

Gail, what are you doing lurking on the Stevie board? :shocked: ;)

Just at the moment it's quite interesting reading the latest Stevie interviews because she's been mentioning Christine a lot.

I've been posting there today! Brave or what? :laugh:

Gail

[macfan 57]

I've been posting there today! Brave or what? :laugh:

Gail

Wow! Next thing you know, you'll be posting on the Lindsey board.:D

[Gailh]

Wow! Next thing you know, you'll be posting on the Lindsey board.:D


:laugh: :laugh: I already did that last week!

The discussion about Carol Ann Harris' book was quite interesting.

Gail

[aleuzzi]

I saw this on the Stevie board - I like to lurk there every now and then

"i was very pleasantly surprised at Borders today to see that Stevie is on the cover of the June 2007 'Performing Songwriter' magazine (Volume 14, Issue 102).

There's not quite as much typical Rumours-era rehash in the text, and Stevie, as ever, is quotable- most interesting to me is her assertion that she will not record with Fleetwood Mac again unless Christine re-joins, saying that "Absolutely not, not in this lifetime" will she make a new Fleetwood Mac cd without Christine. "Why? We already tried, and it did not work."

No pressure then Chris?

Some people seem to be of the opinion that this is just an excuse not to record with FM again or maybe she just needs her big sister there to protect her from the free flowing testosterone :laugh:

Gail

WOW! Stevie's going further than I thought with this I-miss-Chris thing. Maybe she and Stevie should do a duet record. McVie and Nicks.:]

[aleuzzi]

and the testosterone problem.:D

Yeah, Lindsey too many "Come" songs, literally and figuratively.

[macfan 57]

Maybe she and Stevie should do a duet record. McVie and Nicks.:]

That's kind of what I was thinking when I read those quotes that Gail posted. Neither of these two ladies ever appeared on each other's solo records. I have no idea if Stevie is even thinking about recording a solo album. If she misses Chris that much, why not ask her to do a little something on her solo album, if she is thinking of recording an album? If Chris would be on a Stevie Nicks solo album, even I'd buy it then.;)

[macfan 57]

:laugh: :laugh: I already did that last week!

The discussion about Carol Ann Harris' book was quite interesting.

Gail

Oh no!:shocked: Well, What's the world coming to.;) :laugh:

[SteveMacD]

The only thing is that Stevie has set a trap for herself. What if she gets the band to the point where they agree to let Christine record with them again, and Christine says "thanks, but really, I'm done" to everybody? I think it's safe to say that we're all for Christine coming back. But is Christine ready to come back?

But, what would be the kicker is if Christine said "I'll come back, but Billy's coming with me or I'm pulling the plug on this motherf..."

[Gailh]

The only thing is that Stevie has set a trap for herself. What if she gets the band to the point where they agree to let Christine record with them again, and Christine says "thanks, but really, I'm done" to everybody? I think it's safe to say that we're all for Christine coming back. But is Christine ready to come back?

But, what would be the kicker is if Christine said "I'll come back, but Billy's coming with me or I'm pulling the plug on this motherf..."

I don't think it necessarily follows that if asked Christine would come back.

I imagine her life is pretty settled now. she lives in a beautiful English village and has a fabulous flat in London, financially there's no reason to do it and she has other interests to keep her occupied. also she is nearly 64 years old and she doesn't like flying. I can't imagine she would want to spend a year in Los Angeles recording with FM. so that would mean they would have to come here. Unlikely.

When she made ITM there was no pressure from anybody (record company, other band members) they just worked at their own pace and sold the album when it was done. FM doesn't work like that. Maybe she doesn't want that kind of pressure again. she probably knows that if she agreed to record the pressure to tour would inevitably follow.

I can't see it happening but it's very interesting.

I'm not sure what Stevie's playing at - whether she's having a dig at Lindsey or trying to influence Christine. They're all so used to doing interviews unguarded comments would hardly just "slip out".

Gail

[macfan 57]

I can't imagine she would want to spend a year in Los Angeles recording with FM. so that would mean they would have to come here. Unlikely.


There is no way she would spend a year or more in California to record an entire album. However, they could release some sort of compilation/box set & maybe add a few newly recorded tracks as they did on the Chain box set. She might agree to come to L.A. or they even might agree to come to England for a very limited time. That's the only way I see anything happening.

[Gailh]

There is no way she would spend a year or more in California to record an entire album. However, they could release some sort of compilation/box set & maybe add a few newly recorded tracks as they did on the Chain box set. She might agree to come to L.A. or they even might agree to come to England for a very limited time. That's the only way I see anything happening.

what a good idea!

Or they could just do a few tracks and make them available for download.

Gail

[SteveMacD]

Christine wouldn't necessarily have to be in Los Angeles to record with the band. With computer recording and internet technologoy being what it is, she could easily record her parts in London and send them to the band over the internet.

As for the band not going to England, why not? The only person I see having an issue with that would be Lindsey, and I'm not sure how much of an issue that would really be for him.

[Gailh]

Christine wouldn't necessarily have to be in Los Angeles to record with the band. With computer recording and internet technologoy being what it is, she could easily record her parts in London and send them to the band over the internet.

As for the band not going to England, why not? The only person I see having an issue with that would be Lindsey, and I'm not sure how much of an issue that would really be for him.

The technology certainly exists for that to work but would it feel like a band recording?

I'm really not sure that the collective will exists for any of this to happen. If it does then they'll find a way. But can any of them actually be bothered?

Gail

[macfan 57]

As for the band not going to England, why not? The only person I see having an issue with that would be Lindsey, and I'm not sure how much of an issue that would really be for him.

Lindsey does have small children, as does Mick. So maybe they wouldn't want to go to England. However, if it's just a few tracks, it shouldn't take too long.

[SandyMac]

This is all so exciting and perplexing all at the same time. Exciting because having Christine come back to FM would be absolutely wonderful and perplexing because we don't really know the whole story and how each member really feels about all of this.

Oh to be a fly on a wall... I wonder if any serious negotiations have started at all. I mean if FM was to tour in late 2008, something of this magnitude takes time and some serious planning. Do they postpone the 2008 tour to hopefully record a new album with Christine? I would be more than okay with that. I agree that if Christine just performs a couple of shows and taped for a DVD, that would be awesome. :] The FM tour looks like it might be 2009 anyway with LB releasing that new album and who knows with Stevie if she will release another solo effort or not.

IMHO, I really only feel that there is one FM album left since time is ticking away. What better way to release your last album than with Christine coming back to FM as their swan song.

It just wasn't the same during the SYW tour with Goodbye Baby as the closer, it just seemed so unnatural. Nothing like Songbird as the closer to really end a great show.

[Gailh]

Somebody has transcribbed the whole interview on the Stevie board.

"The lack of Christine is a big, hollow hole in my heart." she also called it a "boys club"

The mood she's in at the moment I can't see another FM being made because I can't see Christine wanting to.

I would love to see her back with FM but only if she really wants to. If it would give her pleasure and a bit of a laugh. the last thing anyone would want is her there out of some miss placed sense of duty or loyalty.

anyway she wont tour so I doubt if the others would wear that.

Interesting though

Gail

[Gailh]

The FM tour looks like it might be 2009 anyway with LB releasing that new album and who knows with Stevie if she will release another solo effort or not.

IMHO, I really only feel that there is one FM album left since time is ticking away. What better way to release your last album than with Christine coming back to FM as their swan song.

It just wasn't the same during the SYW tour with Goodbye Baby as the closer, it just seemed so unnatural. Nothing like Songbird as the closer to really end a great show.

If it's 2009 Christine will be 66. It would 12 years since she last toured. I really can't see it happening.

One more album is possible but not probable (unless Mick talks really nice to her :laugh: )

Gail

[macfan 57]

One more album is possible but not probable (unless Mick talks really nice to her :laugh: )

Gail

And, unless the rest of the "boys club" agrees. I have a feeling that Stevie might be O.K. with Chris recording, but not touring. I remember she said in an interview before SYW was even started that Chris would have to record AND tour to be a part of the project due to the supposed problem of maybe having a hit single & not being able to perform it live. I'd be surprised if she still feels that way.

And, as you said, Chris may not even have any interest in recording with Fleetwood Mac anymore. In that Mojo Magazine interview a few years ago, she said that she thought that Fleetwood Mac had had its day & had made its best music.

[Gailh]

And, unless the rest of the "boys club" agrees. I have a feeling that Stevie might be O.K. with Chris recording, but not touring. I remember she said in an interview before SYW was even started that Chris would have to record AND tour to be a part of the project due to the supposed problem of maybe having a hit single & not being able to perform it live. I'd be surprised if she still feels that way.

And, as you said, Chris may not even have any interest in recording with Fleetwood Mac anymore. In that Mojo Magazine interview a few years ago, she said that she thought that Fleetwood Mac had had its day & had made its best music.

Yes I remember Stevie saying that about the problem of having a hit single. to be quite honest though what are the realistic chances of FM having a hit single ever again?

I don't see the not touring bit as a problem and I never have. If Mick thinks that's the only way to get a FM record out it suddenly wont be a problem.

The problem is whether Christine would want to record with them again and I don't think she would.

Hope I'm wrong

Gail

[aleuzzi]

Yes I remember Stevie saying that about the problem of having a hit single. to be quite honest though what are the realistic chances of FM having a hit single ever again?Gail

I honestly think if Chris recorded a studio album with them again, a hit--or possibly four--would emerge. It's that undeniable chemistry between all three songwriters and killer rhythm section that makes it work. Anytime one of them leaves, a real dimension is gone. (Though I wouldn't mind hearing a Chris-Lindsey album.)

And let's face it, which one of them knows how to write a hit? We know the answer. If "Friend" was on "Say You Will" it woould probably have charted very well.

[aleuzzi]

In that Mojo Magazine interview a few years ago, she said that she thought that Fleetwood Mac had had its day & had made its best music.

Well, some of the music on Say You Will is among the band's best music! And ITM is a killer collection of songs and performances. I think she was being her usual doubting self. I think those five could still make incredible music if they could just--in the words of Janice--"get it together, man."

[Gailh]

I honestly think if Chris recorded a studio album with them again, a hit--or possibly four--would emerge. It's that undeniable chemistry between all three songwriters and killer rhythm section that makes it work. Anytime one of them leaves, a real dimension is gone. (Though I wouldn't mind hearing a Chris-Lindsey album.)

And let's face it, which one of them knows how to write a hit? We know the answer. If "Friend" was on "Say You Will" it woould probably have charted very well.

there's no doubt that if anyone was going to write a hit single it would be our Christine. and I don't doubt the quality of her song writing. what I'm not sure of is whether they can still be seen as a "current" band.

If they tour again without a new album it will look very much like a bunch of old farts trotting out the greatist hits so they can pay their latest tax bill and get out from under their wives' feet.

I'd rather see a new album (with Christine of course) and no tour.

I seriously doubt if she would even consider recording again let alone touring.


Gail

[macfan 57]

If "Friend" was on "Say You Will" it woould probably have charted very well.

I agree.:nod: "Friend" did get on the AAA & Adult Contemporary charts, but if it had been on a Fleetwood Mac album, it most likely would have charted higher. Even if they had put the ITM version of "Friend" on SYW, it would have charted higher just because of the Fleetwood Mac name. I doubt most casual fans would have even realized that the entire FM hadn't played on the track. It sounds so much like a FM song anyway.

[macfan 57]

I seriously doubt if she would even consider recording again let alone touring.


I'll say it again. I think the only way she would agree to record with them again is if it's a short, limited type of thing, like just a few tracks. I don't think there's any way she'd ever agree to take a year or more out of her life to record an entire album with them. Why would she want to spend that much time as a referee between the inevitable Stevie/Lindsey battles?

[Gailh]

I'll say it again. I think the only way she would agree to record with them again is if it's a short, limited type of thing, like just a few tracks. I don't think there's any way she'd ever agree to take a year or more out of her life to record an entire album with them. Why would she want to spend that much time as a referee between the inevitable Stevie/Lindsey battles?

I totally agree. She's got better things to do with her life now.

Gail

[aleuzzi]

I agree too and think it's great she's reinvented her life. However, there's no reason why she can't pop out an album every now and then!