**SPOILER** Opening Night of Crystal Visions Tour

[JazmenFlowers]

Eye Sack
Eye Sack is on stage in a pretty pink suit
Eye Sack ran from the crowd all the way to the lawn
Eye Sack done - no Stevie yet

La Nicks
Stand Back
Dreams
sidenote - full house, she looks ****ing radiant
If Anyone Falls (In Love)
Rhiannon
Enchanted
Gold Dust Woman
I Need To Know
Landslide
Fall from Grace
Sorcerer
Band Intros
How Still My Love
Edge of Seventeen
sidenote - full white dress
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast
sidenote - nothing with Eye Sack

wtf. :rolleyes:

thanks Ryan!!!

nite folks.

[UnwindedDreams]

Thanks Jazz, opening song?

[SpyNote]

Anyone know what the major Chris Isaak message boards are? Just curious what his set is like.

[jkmaletic]

A friend from this board txt messaged me that someone from Chris's people asked her if she'd like to dance on stage with Chris. She declined. :laugh:

She sent me phone pics of the new shirts - hard to see details but there's definitely a black t-shirt with the CD cover photo on it. There's also a red one (I think it's a ladies cut) that says Crystal Visions.

~jamie

[Hawkeye]

No reports that she joined him fro his set yet? I was kind of expecting that. I would think his set is almost over now.

[jkmaletic]

No reports that she joined him fro his set yet? I was kind of expecting that. I would think his set is almost over now.

Really! After all, curfew is in less than 2 hours!!! :rolleyes:

[SpyNote]

It's good that things are mixed up a bit (literally) :)

[jkmaletic]

"Stand Back" to open??!! Starting off with a Bang! :thumbsup:

[catinthedark]

ok - bets? bets?

will she do a new song? a song she hasn't sung on any of the past 3 tours?

anyone?

[Hawkeye]

Well looks like Outside the Rain isn't part of this set, she's already done Dreams.

[AliceLover]

Glad to see If Anyone Falls in there. Have never seen it live before!

[jkmaletic]

ok - bets? bets?

will she do a new song? a song she hasn't sung on any of the past 3 tours?

anyone?


What do you want to put down? :laugh:

I'm feeling "Talk To Me"......

[catinthedark]

What do you want to put down? :laugh:

I'm feeling "Talk To Me"......

hmmmm..... talk to me, eh?

nah.

too radical.




:laugh:

[Phoenix]

Glad to see If Anyone Falls in there. Have never seen it live before!

ME TOO!! I am sooo happy,:] ive allways wanted to hear it live in person! and it hasnt been in the last three "tours" only in vegas.

[enchanted]

Rhiannon is next

[SpyNote]

I think she'll try Silver Springs...

[Hawkeye]

ok, Im pretty dissapointed in Enchanted still being in the set, that song needs to GO.

[catinthedark]

Rhiannon is next

it's already been.
she's on enchanted.

[catinthedark]

ok, Im pretty dissapointed in Enchanted still being in the set, that song needs to GO.

word

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[jkmaletic]

ME TOO!! I am sooo happy,:] ive allways wanted to hear it live in person! and it hasnt been in the last three "tours" only in vegas.

You will LOVE it!! I got the chills when I saw/heard her do it live. :)

[enchanted]

it's already been.
she's on enchanted.

Sorry ...just trying to get songs as soon as I find out:confused:

[catinthedark]

Sorry ...just trying to get songs as soon as I find out:confused:

jazzy is updating in the first post of this thread :)

[jkmaletic]

ok, Im pretty dissapointed in Enchanted still being in the set, that song needs to GO.

Me too- but that song always makes her happy for some reason. So be it.

[Livia]

Jazzy is continuously updating the first post - just keep refreshing page 1 of this thread. :wavey:

[SpyNote]

Stop Draggin', Sorcerer, Landslide, Edge, Rock & Roll, and BATB are my picks for the remaining songs. :laugh:

[enchanted]

jazzy is updating in the first post of this thread :)
Thanks....for the info.;)

[Hawkeye]

Is this the 7 minute version of Enchanted or Something :laugh:

[SpyNote]

Is this the 7 minute version of Enchanted or Something :laugh:

No kiddin' :laugh:

[jkmaletic]

Either that or someone stole his cell phone!!! :laugh:

[catinthedark]

Is this the 7 minute version of Enchanted or Something :laugh:

i just said virtually the same thing out loud to my computer! :laugh:

[catinthedark]

oh, no. i am starting to feel that sinking feeling of dismay.

same old. same old.

[Josh2003]

Hmmm...sounds thrilling so far...:rolleyes:

[Hawkeye]

^^^^^ Me Too. I think Mama has serious OCD. There's no excuse for this refusal to do different songs.

[ryan8472]

Is everyone thinking suicidal thoughts yet? :angel:

[SpyNote]

I hope the Concordians are bundled up. It's frrrrrrreezin' out.

[Livia]

She's got to do something with Eye Sack. :shrug:

[carrie721]

Is everyone thinking suicidal thoughts yet? :angel:

i just popped open a vein ... it's only a matter of time. ;)

[catinthedark]

i come to these little opening night parties every single time....

i bring my greatest hopes....

:distress:

sigh

[Hawkeye]

I get so scared everytime I hit refresh, I'm almost relived when I don't see an update, cause I know the update will be a let down.

[SpyNote]

Think she'll do Fall From Grace?

[Phoenix]

i just popped open a vein ... it's only a matter of time. ;)

ZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGG!! And caries humour strikes again!:laugh:

[catinthedark]

Think she'll do Fall From Grace?

good call!!







:(

[Hawkeye]

well I'm actually glad Sorcerer and FFG are still here. If shes not going to anything new, then for god sakes keep the good songs that are old.

[Josh2003]

Two TISL songs back-to-back?? OMG she's really shaking things up!!!!

[Hawkeye]

well thats 11 songs so far and we know Edge, RNR and BATB are coming. So 14 songs at least for this shorter the usual set aint bad. Maybe it means Stevie, your usual set aint that freaking long :laugh:

[SpyNote]

Hmm, 45 min. left. That leaves time for Edge, R&R, and...?

[Hawkeye]

Wait I counted wrong, 10 songs so far.

[carrie721]

ZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGG!! And caries humour strikes again!:laugh:

:laugh: :xoxo:

next time i visit my aunt in scottsdale we have to meet for lunch or something. :wavey:

[catinthedark]

hmmm. maybe i'll go fold my laundry.
i'll bring my little black cloud with me.


(okay - someone's really gonna start yelling at me soon)

[Hawkeye]

I'm shocked at the lack of Bella Donna songs. Edge is given, but she has to do more then ONE from her signiture album. SDMHA will probably be an encore with Chris.

[SpyNote]

hmmm. maybe i'll go fold my laundry.
i'll bring my little black cloud with me.


(okay - someone's really gonna start yelling at me soon)

Don't stray too far or you'll miss Sisters of the Moon!! :lol:

[carrie721]

hmmm. maybe i'll go fold my laundry.
i'll bring my little black cloud with me.


(okay - someone's really gonna start yelling at me soon)

:laugh: not me. i love your curmudgeonly ass ;)

[jkmaletic]

hmmm. maybe i'll go fold my laundry.
i'll bring my little black cloud with me.


(okay - someone's really gonna start yelling at me soon)

little black cloud.... that's ****ing funny....:lol:

[AliceLover]

What a letdown...again.

[Phoenix]

:laugh: :xoxo:

next time i visit my aunt in scottsdale we have to meet for lunch or something. :wavey:

HEY Yeah Totally:thumbsup: :wavey:

[danax6]

Is Jaz still updating? Wah time izzit there?

It's fukcing early here. Yawn.

Setlist. Yawn.

[carrie721]

Is Jaz still updating? Wah time izzit there?

It's fukcing early here. Yawn.

Setlist. Yawn.

holy **** you're up early.

it's 1:30 here.

aren't you glad you went for the house? ;)

[Kelly]

I am blown away by this fabulous set list! She really shook things up. :laugh: Stevie is so utterly predictable these days. Thanks Heavens I am not flying anywhere to see her this summer. Been there, done that...,..many times actually.

[Hawkeye]

You know I was very anti Silver Springs for this tour, but I Need for her to do SOMETHING new that hasnt been done the last 2 years. I'll tak Talk To Me, a song I hate. Hell I will settle for her coming out and singing Mary Had a ****ing Little Lamb.

[catinthedark]

:laugh: not me. i love your curmudgeonly ass ;)

right back at ya, baby! :laugh:


now, stop making me laugh. yer wrecking my mood.

[AliceLover]

Remember 2 years ago when Stevie said the Vegas show could not be brought out on the road....

[danax6]

holy **** you're up early.

it's 1:30 here.Yes, my friend's little girl spent the night and I got up early so I could catch up with Stevie and the GA season finale before she gets up and demands breakfast and entertainment. ;)


aren't you glad you went for the house? ;)Yes. :cool:

[Hawkeye]

well I PERSONALLU have never witnessed her do How Still My Love, so I guess this is new to me :shrug:

[danax6]

Remember 2 years ago when Stevie said the Vegas show could not be brought out on the road....At least there's no Silver Springs yet, that's a relief.

[SpyNote]

well I PERSONALLU have never witnessed her do How Still My Love, so I guess this is new to me :shrug:

And HSML is tonight's surprise song!! :woohoo:

[carrie721]

Yes, my friend's little girl spent the night and I got up early so I could catch up with Stevie and the GA season finale before she gets up and demands breakfast and entertainment. ;)

Yes. :cool:

thought so ;)

gee, i hope there are some tapers at this show so we can hear this fabulous new performance!

[AliceLover]

And HSML is tonight's surprise song!! :woohoo:

Surprise!!! Ive been done on almost every tour! WOo! :rolleyes:

[danax6]

thought so ;)

gee, i hope there are some tapers at this show so we can hear this fabulous new performance!My download is ready, I'll move on to more exciting forms of entertainment...

Can't believe she didn't do one thing with Eye Sack. :shrug:

[SpyNote]

thought so ;)

gee, i hope there are some tapers at this show so we can hear this fabulous new performance!

The Concord show always gets videotaped. I think there's been vid for every tour since RAL. :woohoo:

[catinthedark]

edge



(sharpen sharpen sharpen)

[carrie721]

edge



(sharpen sharpen sharpen)

LOL.

i just snorted. :lol:

i just closed my open window so that if the fall doesn't kill me after i hurtle through it, i'll die bleeding to death. here's hoping.

[catinthedark]

LOL.

i just snorted. :lol:

i just closed my open window so that if the fall doesn't kill me after i hurtle through it, i'll die bleeding to death. here's hoping.

oooh, yeah. shards. shards are good.

[jkmaletic]

LOL.

i just snorted. :lol:

i just closed my open window so that if the fall doesn't kill me after i hurtle through it, i'll die bleeding to death. here's hoping.

How many stories? You would need at least 2 I think. :laugh:

[catinthedark]

did everyone else die of boredom?



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[carrie721]

The Concord show always gets videotaped. I think there's been vid for every tour since RAL. :woohoo:

that is cool. sorry to say that's one dvd i won't be seeking out. :(

[carrie721]

How many stories? You would need at least 2 I think. :laugh:

:laugh: i'm on the second floor, so i'm really banking on the shards of glass and the rose bushes i'm going to dive into. ;)

[jkmaletic]

LOL - Rose bushes! What you need is a high powered wood chipper to land in! That'd take care of business for sure. :thumbsup:

[catinthedark]

ok. um. so.

how 'bout that setlist???





(talk amongst yourselves. i'm outta here. nite all)

[carrie721]

LOL - Rose bushes! What you need is a high powered wood chipper to land in! That'd take care of business for sure. :thumbsup:

true. you guys have to promise to let everyone know that stevie nicks killed me, k? :laugh:

[carrie721]

(talk amongst yourselves. i'm outta here. nite all)

gnight!

so. edge should be, like, halfway over by now, right? :rolleyes:

[Josh2003]

I told myself I'd go see her this summer if there were some new songs...looks like I'll be saving my money.

[jkmaletic]

Rock and Roll. Think she'll finish with BATB or HAEWAFY? The suspense is killing me.

[SpyNote]

So something has dropped from the set after every opening night performance. Which song will it be?

[carrie721]

So something has dropped from the set after every opening night performance. Which song will it be?

i hope it's not landslide! :woohoo:

[AliceLover]

So something has dropped from the set after every opening night performance. Which song will it be?

Hopefully, Enchanted.

[JazmenFlowers]

I have never, ever been so...so...arghhh...wtf dude.

[SpyNote]

BRAVO STEVIE!! :cool:

Thanks for posting the set Ryan and Jason.

Sleep time.

[sparky]

Looks like I can confirm my tentative sunday night booty call and turn down the comp ticket. At least this dude occasionally surprises me.

[jkmaletic]

BATB it is. Nothing with Chris? That surprised me, but whatever. I think he just finished some Canadian gigs a couple days ago, so maybe there was no rehearsal time to do a duet.

I'm disappointed with the set list, but not surprised. Am I still excited to go see her next wednesday in the freaking front row? Hell yes. :D

[carrie721]

jesus christ.

[jkmaletic]

Looks like I can confirm my tentative sunday night booty call and turn down the comp ticket. At least this dude occasionally surprises me.

Booty call?? You can get one o' those anytime, can't you Sparky? :laugh: Just take the comp ticket and have fun with it. You can call your booty call after the show. :nod:

[DeadliestPoison]

I'm sort of surprised there's no SDMHA tbh.

[Hawkeye]

Wow, there are just no words to describe this. It makes no SENSE. Is it compulsion, laziness, both something else. Stevie told us there'd be new songs. She never lies like that. Greatly exaturate beyond belief, but never outright lie like this.

Oh Well I'm still excited to see her in Verona. Nver seen IAF or HSML live and like I said it's really more about HOW she performs then WHAT she performs.

[Livia]

BATB it is. Nothing with Chris? That surprised me, but whatever. I think he just finished some Canadian gigs a couple days ago, so maybe there was no rehearsal time to do a duet.

I hope you're right about that - they've got all freakin' day tomorrow to rehearse (It's Late) before the next show.

It's late
I'd better get to bed
Too bad
The set list made ya sad....

[Phoenix]

Nver seen IAF or HSML live and like I said it's really more about HOW she performs then WHAT she performs.

Thats the only thing im thinking, but i am BEYOND SICK OF i need to know,enchanted,&golddust woman. and yeah, rock and roll and beauty and the beast were cool and all, but come on.

[carrie721]

I'm sort of surprised there's no SDMHA tbh.

sdmha is old meme. that's why she dropped it in favor of so many hidden gems.

[Livia]

I'm sort of surprised there's no SDMHA tbh.

Maybe after touring with Tom, she doesn't want to sing it with anyone else anymore. :shrug:

[Phoenix]

Maybe after touring with Tom, she doesn't want to sing it with anyone else anymore. :shrug:

THANK GOD. Now, if only that was tru for I need to (freeking sing this dam song again every tour) know.

[Nikolaj]

i have a 2:54 am prediction and it's grim, and though i feel it should be in a new thread, i'm hiding it in here.
I think the promoter is going to pull the plug. i think this tour MIGHT make it to Jones Beach in NY on 6/13, or the tour will be cancelled just before Jones Beach.
If not, i'd expect one of the two New Jersey shows (on June 12 and June 15) to be cancelled.
Word of mouth about opening night (this thread now has more than 3,000 hits just hours after the concert ended) isn't going to help sluggish sales, TicketMaster have already prominently placed the option to buy 4 lawn seats for less than $80 for many of the dates, which makes me think the promoter is worried.
Top price for most markets is $125, and only in Stevie's kind-hearted friend mind is Chris Isaak a 'co-headliner' and not an opening act. I don't think this tour is going to make it. The cd-dvd is falling so fast, radio didn't bite on either 'Rock and Roll' or 'Landslide' and there's just no buzz for a Nicks/Issac bill in this tough economy, what with gas climbing towards $4 a gallon and many venues charging $15 to park ontop of the ticket prices, which are too high for an artist who hasn't had a substantial hit in ages. I just don't think the concert market is ripe for her right now.
On opening night, Nicks sang 5 songs (out of 14) that she performed on the last Mac tour, which had trouble with ticket sales on the final leg.
She's been the artist i have loved the most, back from my pre-teen years, now into my 40s.. but sadly, she is now an oldies act, due to her choices in how she presents herself on stage with so much of her Fleetwood Mac material overlapping into her solo concerts, that i think there isn't an incentive for fans to pay hundreds of dollars for a pair of tickets to see pretty much the same show, yet again. Maybe the lawn seat plan will help fill these venues, but it seems telling that it's being offered so visibly with the 'orchestra' seating pricing hidden, comparatively.
Oldies acts can't fill these 10,000+ seat venues at these prices and i don't think the promoter will be willing to take a financial beating.
I don't wish Stevie badly at all, I wish her success, and maybe my 'crystal vision prediction' will be all wet, but as of 3:07 am now, i think this tour is not long for this world...

[BombaySapphire3]

At this point I never put my expectations too high for her doing 'something new' So I was not terribly surprised or disappointed by the set list being the same old one.I will say she looked great ,very fresh and her voice was better than I have heard it since 1998, she hit a high note in Dreams I hadn't heard in years and her Gold Dust Woman yell was impressive .I was concerned how she would sound after seeing some of the recent TV appearances but vocallly she was really on.

[Somajoseph]

Just got back. I agree Stevie looked great, and seemed to be really trying to focus on her vocals.
The only surprise for me was HSML, which was always one of my favorites. They did a pretty good version of the song with Stevie not shying away from the high notes. I'd say she nailed it.
Issak played around 75 minutes-too long for me. But they delivered a solid set.
As far as the house goes, I'd say it was 2/3 full. The pit, first section and middle of the pavilion were full but the sides were a bit sparse here and there. The lawn seemed pretty full. I'd estimate maybe 8,000 out of a 12,500 seat venue.
I didnt expect Stevie to do anything new, but after tonight I have to say I would hesitate to see her again in the future if she rolled out the same show.
I did enjoy Landslide, the vocal was beautiful to me, and she showed alot of pics of her dad as she sang. She seemed to be having alot of fun with Rock & Roll and I need to Know. Really, it was a solid set, but that's enough for me. Unil it changes.
She came out pretty bundled up, kept the black gloves on all night, and had a scarf on the first few numbers. Again I am glad I went but I finally get the frustration everyone's been feeling. It's not impossible to change, she clearly does not want to.

[amber]

First off, Chris Isaak kicks ass. His voice is beautiful, his band is great, he's funny, and hot. I would see him again by himself, were it cheaply enough. He made some great Stockton trailer jokes, too. He's from Stockton, so is my fam. on the mom side.
It was funny and good.

That being said, Stevie's vocals on the "same old songs" were incredible. And I'm not talking incredible, like "there was one new part on one song". I'm talking incredible like, tear the house down.
She added new cool stuff to GDW, her Fall From Grace practically set my awesome dress on fire, and her HSML was amazing. It was just all different and fresher, vocally. But not just a little, a LOT.

Plus, usually I don't like Enchanted live, and this time I did. It was faster. It was like, everything was faster. Her whole singing pace was way better and more dynamic. And like was said before, there was different notes. In fact, everything sounded a bit different and better. And I'm not just saying that. Even Dreams seemed rockin'. It was weird, I was suprised my ownself. Even BATB, which has been spectacular these couple years, but mostly the same - seemed different. It's hard to describe, kinda, but basically all her vocals were better, more dynamic, and either subtly or obviously different. Not different like a whole new song, but different like...well, different. Better, faster, stronger, different emphases. It was weird. And awesome.
So, if you are pissed about the setlist, don't go. If you want to hear the setlist infused with fire and more greatness, go.

[BombaySapphire3]

That being said, Stevie's vocals on the "same old songs" were incredible. And I'm not talking incredible, like "there was one new part on one song". I'm talking incredible like, tear the house down.
She added new cool stuff to GDW, her Fall From Grace practically set my awesome dress on fire, and her HSML was amazing. It was just all different a It's hard to describe, kinda, but basically all her vocals were better, more dynamic, and either subtly or obviously different. Not different like a whole new song, but different like...well, different. Better, faster, stronger, different emphases. It was weird. And awesome.
So, if you are pissed about the setlist, don't go. If you want to hear the setlist infused with fire and more greatness, go.


In all these years I have never seen her on an opening night until now..I hope her great vocals hold up through the tour so everyone can hear them.

[BombaySapphire3]

Really, it was a solid set, but that's enough for me. Unil it changes.
She came out pretty bundled up, kept the black gloves on all night, and had a scarf on the first few numbers. Again I am glad I went but I finally get the frustration everyone's been feeling. It's not impossible to change, she clearly does not want to.

I understand what you are saying I kind of went on a last minute impulse this time and I'm also glad I went but if it really does stay this stagnant forever I see more hard core fans bailing on the live shows.

[foxyluva]

i have a 2:54 am prediction and it's grim, and though i feel it should be in a new thread, i'm hiding it in here.
I think the promoter is going to pull the plug. i think this tour MIGHT make it to Jones Beach in NY on 6/13, or the tour will be cancelled just before Jones Beach.
If not, i'd expect one of the two New Jersey shows (on June 12 and June 15) to be cancelled.
Word of mouth about opening night (this thread now has more than 3,000 hits just hours after the concert ended) isn't going to help sluggish sales, TicketMaster have already prominently placed the option to buy 4 lawn seats for less than $80 for many of the dates, which makes me think the promoter is worried.
Top price for most markets is $125, and only in Stevie's kind-hearted friend mind is Chris Isaak a 'co-headliner' and not an opening act. I don't think this tour is going to make it. The cd-dvd is falling so fast, radio didn't bite on either 'Rock and Roll' or 'Landslide' and there's just no buzz for a Nicks/Issac bill in this tough economy, what with gas climbing towards $4 a gallon and many venues charging $15 to park ontop of the ticket prices, which are too high for an artist who hasn't had a substantial hit in ages. I just don't think the concert market is ripe for her right now.
On opening night, Nicks sang 5 songs (out of 14) that she performed on the last Mac tour, which had trouble with ticket sales on the final leg.
She's been the artist i have loved the most, back from my pre-teen years, now into my 40s.. but sadly, she is now an oldies act, due to her choices in how she presents herself on stage with so much of her Fleetwood Mac material overlapping into her solo concerts, that i think there isn't an incentive for fans to pay hundreds of dollars for a pair of tickets to see pretty much the same show, yet again. Maybe the lawn seat plan will help fill these venues, but it seems telling that it's being offered so visibly with the 'orchestra' seating pricing hidden, comparatively.
Oldies acts can't fill these 10,000+ seat venues at these prices and i don't think the promoter will be willing to take a financial beating.
I don't wish Stevie badly at all, I wish her success, and maybe my 'crystal vision prediction' will be all wet, but as of 3:07 am now, i think this tour is not long for this world...

Actually, I think you may be right. This tour will not be a sell-out, her real fans are bailing out - and as far as I am concerened it serves her right. Im so pissed right now.

[Dayaz]

Hi all,
I haven't posted to the Ledge in years; however, after reading some of the comments in anticipation of and after last night's performance, I have to agree that over the past few years, Stevie's show has left me disappointed and I have simply stopped going.

After my inital FM/SN experience on the Tango tour; I was mesmerized -- so much that I went out and got every single bootleg show of earlier shows that I could get my hands on. The one thing that amazed me was how Stevie would 'spin' each performance with her style, flair, vocals -- each one was a bit different than the other. Some songs she would completely go off into different keys, etc. She was dynamic, she was spontaneous...

I traveled all over the place (planes, trains, automobiles) to see Mask, Timespace, Angel, Dance, Enchanted, TISL, and SYW shows; my friends would do everything possible to get a coveted first five rows with the chance of reaching up and shaking her hand, etc. Now, I know there were several other 'influences' in the early days; however, through the late 90s, we would still see the spontaneity shine through now and again. The Enchanted tour being a prime example (esp. the Radio City show where I finally got to see a glimpse of the rock out-speaking in tongues Stevie!) and when Lindsey came back, we saw a livelier Stevie up on stage...

However, as time went by, so did the 'magic' that I loved seeing. Yes, there were a few 'sparks' - the covers on the Gold Dust Tour -- but I became a bit resentful, why would Stevie go to covers, when there are so many songs (hits even) from her own career that her fans would die to hear. We gasped when she brought Sara back -- but what about the countless others? And I understand Stevie has gotten older; I'm not asking for cartwheels on stage, just a bit of spontaneity in song choice and/or arrangement.

So, in light of ticket prices being so expensive these days, I always defer to The Ledge postings before I buy any ticket to a show. My friends have long stopped going; they say, "why bother? same 'ol songs, same 'ol performances." I never want to admit that Stevie is becoming a 'lounge' or 'cabaret' act -- simply singing the 'oldies but goodies,' yet, it appears to be happening. Yes, I know that the majority of audiences aren't long-time followers of Stevie or FM, who know every lyric to every song on every setlist ever created; she does need to appeal to the 'OMG I love that Landslide song' audience as well as her long-time fans. Stevie has always been quite frank about having to perform 'those songs' in her set -- and I respect that (I could see Stand Back, Gold Dust, and Rhiannon 1000x and never get sick of them -- after all, they've become her trademarks); but, these days, 'I've gotten older too' and I've seen it all before.

Grace Slick spoke candidly when she said 'no one wants to see their grandmother rock on stage' when asked why she doesn't perform anymore. While I believe Stevie to be a truly amazing artist, beautiful in every way, I'm not planning to go to any of the shows on this tour. I don't want to see the depleting audiences, and the archaic set lists anymore. The more I see online, the more it appears she's simply 'going through the motions.' I love Stevie and will continue to turn her up in my car and in my house.

I hope everyone has a magical time on this tour -- especially, all the new fans out there who might be experiencing Stevie for the first time. Have a blast and don't let us old timers bring you down -- I have so many amazing memories of my SN shows, the fans, the excitement, the energy. But, after reading many of the posts in anticipation, last night's setlist was a bit of a let down for me personally. Yes, she may change it, and I might still check out a Jersey or NY show (from the lawn probably), but for now -- I'll defer to the rising ticket prices and gas prices, and stay at home w/ my memories and CDs.

Thanks for reading....
Dave

[wheart]

OK...I'm a little speechless. When I first read the set list, I thought maybe it was "speculation" and I was trying to find the real set list somewhere else in the thread. I honestly cannot believe it. I didn't expect major changes but I expected some changes. Very disappointing. Makes me feel not so bad that she's not coming to South Florida on this tour.

[Kelly]

This whole thing makes me a bit sad actually. She really has no spontaneity and I can really see why there were problems onstage on the last Mac tour. She is not flexible, where LB would pretty much try anything. It has to be very difficult to work in a situation like that.
Difficult and a complete drag.

With so many hard core, LOYAL fans bailing on multiple shows, I think sales will be a huge problem. I do not think the promotor will pull the plug because between Eye Sack and Nicks fan, they should sell enough tickets to at least break even.

Stevie really needs to wake up.

[jkmaletic]

First off, Chris Isaak kicks ass. His voice is beautiful, his band is great, he's funny, and hot. I would see him again by himself, were it cheaply enough. He made some great Stockton trailer jokes, too. He's from Stockton, so is my fam. on the mom side.
It was funny and good.

That being said, Stevie's vocals on the "same old songs" were incredible. And I'm not talking incredible, like "there was one new part on one song". I'm talking incredible like, tear the house down.
She added new cool stuff to GDW, her Fall From Grace practically set my awesome dress on fire, and her HSML was amazing. It was just all different and fresher, vocally. But not just a little, a LOT.

Plus, usually I don't like Enchanted live, and this time I did. It was faster. It was like, everything was faster. Her whole singing pace was way better and more dynamic. And like was said before, there was different notes. In fact, everything sounded a bit different and better. And I'm not just saying that. Even Dreams seemed rockin'. It was weird, I was suprised my ownself. Even BATB, which has been spectacular these couple years, but mostly the same - seemed different. It's hard to describe, kinda, but basically all her vocals were better, more dynamic, and either subtly or obviously different. Not different like a whole new song, but different like...well, different. Better, faster, stronger, different emphases. It was weird. And awesome.
So, if you are pissed about the setlist, don't go. If you want to hear the setlist infused with fire and more greatness, go.

***WARNING! TOTALLY OT!!!***

And now, since we didn't take pics, I feel I must show some fuzzy ones I took at home. Mainly because my dress rocked, and you can't see in the pics, but there is gold sparkle all through, which is important in the Brown/Beige/Gold scheme of it. It was tight, yet inexplicably flattering.
Even with my little girl boobs. :laugh: And my pimple, DEB. :mad: :cool: :wavey: P.S., if you're trying to find something to inspire Golden Braid, a pimple is the key. I've never seen her so full of jokes. :p
Who cares about my dress, you ask? If you saw the dress, you wouldn't ask. And, B, I ALWAYS care about the dress. Dressing up is the best part. :woohoo: Yes, I love clothes that much.
And for those "in the know", it randomly yet perfectly matched my Fleetwood Mac sweatshirt. Brown and gold wise. And also the necklace I made 2 years ago. Ah, fashion serendipity. I love it so. Also included is a fuzzy shot of my Stevie back tat. It's cool, but it's hard to tell. Trust me on this. Also, I don't know why I can't take any non fuzzy pics. But who cares? Also, remind me to clean my bathroom mirror. Thx.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/antisnark/dress1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/antisnark/tattooblur.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/antisnark/dress2.jpg

Amber -
Great pics! Great dress! :nod:

I'm glad you had a great time last night and I'm glad you posted about it. It was pretty gloomy in here last night as you can probably tell. So glad to hear her energy is high and that even tho it's same old same old, Stevie (and you) obviously had fun with it.
Did you get to the stage for Edge?

~jamie

[markolas]

Well, now I don't feel so bad about not spending $200-300 on tickets for the Houston show. :laugh:

[rbs3676]

Looks like I can confirm my tentative sunday night booty call and turn down the comp ticket. At least this dude occasionally surprises me.

LMAO

I hear ya, Sparky! I'm bypassing The Woodlands show and going to Austin the next night to see Albert Hammond, Jr. play. That sounds like much more fun than seeing the same old show.


rbs

[JazmenFlowers]

I think by ME saying I will not go to a show during this tour unless something changes dramatically over the next couple of shows says it all.

[Tango]

Was Lori on stage? Any one have any specifics about the back up singers? Anyone go to the microphone with Stevie? (like Sharon)

It's really disappointing that there wasn't more focus on SOLO material. Stevie did use strong rock and roll songs: Stand Back, I Need To Know, Fall From Grace, Edge of Seventeen, Rock & Roll. It's the rest of the Fleetwood Mac filler that needs to be replaced. Lori wrote on the Nicks Fix "Nightbird" was one of her most favorite songs. Anything solo would be appreciated: Destiny, Blue Denium, even the simple guitar song from TISL, "It's Only Love," would have been a welcome change. Something different from Bella Donna besides "Stop Draggin'," "Edge of Seventeen," "Leather and Lace." In the end the list is Wild Heart focused: Nothing Ever Changes.

YES, I love Stevie Nicks. YES, I'm glad she's alive, YES, I'm thrilled she is touring at all. If the top ticket price was $55.00 maybe some of this would make sense. Especially in view of the Ticket Master Auctions that are pulling in in some cases over $1000 per seat!

[JazmenFlowers]

YES, I love Stevie Nicks. YES, I'm glad she's alive, YES, I'm thrilled she is touring at all. If the top ticket price was $55.00 maybe some of this would make sense. Especially in view of the Ticket Master Auctions that are pulling in in some cases over $1000 per seat!
this part made me chuckle. and I agree.

I'll always love Stevie just as much as I ever did, but I just can't keep paying such an exorbitant amount of money 2 and 3 times a year to see her rehash the same old concert. if she was coming within 100 miles or so, I'd go in a heartbeat; but I just can't see getting a plane ticket, hotel room, spending money, concert ticket...equaling $1000...twice this summer for the same show. I've just reached that point. nothing will beat Vegas 05 unless she changes some things. and I did the Vegas thing, have it on DVD, spent a couple thousand dollars. if that's all we're going to get from now on, then I'm just as happy in my pajamas watching it on DVD, cranked way up.

[carrie721]

I think by ME saying I will not go to a show during this tour unless something changes dramatically over the next couple of shows says it all.

:eek:

word.

[SortaSavageLike]

You people just aren't listening. If you listened harder, you'd notice that she always sings her more obscure songs backwards while she's doing her hits. Like when she did that awesome version of SOTM while singing Landslide on the Today Show back in 2005.

[sparky]

Booty call?? You can get one o' those anytime, can't you Sparky? :laugh: Just take the comp ticket and have fun with it. You can call your booty call after the show. :nod:

To be honest, it is easier to go see Stevie than find an interesting guy to spend two hours with. It is all about standards.
Anyway, I'd be too annoyed after the show to be bothered with booty.

It's shocking really. I've been a fan for 30 years. Been to every tour here in LA since 1994 - usually to multiple shows of every tour stop. And I can't be bothered to drive 15 minutes with a free ticket.

[Rickypt]

Was Lori on stage?

Yes

Anyone go to the microphone with Stevie? (like Sharon)

No

[Tango]

Thank you Ryan. :wavey:

[SNicksed]

Well, apparently Stevie has mis-placed her copy of the new setlist. It's a good thing I have a copy. Will someone who has her email addy be so kind to shoot this off to her?

Thanks!

Gold Dust Woman
Dreams
I Can't Wait
Sable On Blonde
Rooms On Fire
Rhiannon
No Spoken Word
Sara
Stand Back
Think About It
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Sorcerer
Edge Of 17

I Need To Know
Rock & Roll
Beauty & The Beast

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
that's not half bad at all...and totally do-able.

[rbs3676]

Well, apparently Stevie has mis-placed her copy of the new setlist. It's a good thing I have a copy. Will someone who has her email addy be so kind to shoot this off to her?

Thanks!

Gold Dust Woman
Dreams
I Can't Wait
Sable On Blonde
Rooms On Fire
Rhiannon
No Spoken Word
Sara
Stand Back
Think About It
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Sorcerer
Edge Of 17

I Need To Know
Rock & Roll
Beauty & The Beast


If only! My summer plans would change in a heartbeat if that was actually going to happen!!

rbs

[Richard B]

The sad reality for me is that I'm way more interested in seeing Chris Isaak than Stevie.

[Rickypt]

It's shocking really. I've been a fan for 30 years. Been to every tour here in LA since 1994 - usually to multiple shows of every tour stop. And I can't be bothered to drive 15 minutes with a free ticket.

My thought at the end of the show was "this is the last time I'm seeing Stevie".

Perhaps if she ever plays a venue right in San Francisco or in a couple of years I get nostalgic and want to see her in Vegas.

Thankfully her vocals really were quite stunning. That saved the night for me. Otherwise I was a mixture of bored and sad. I can't believe there were no songs with Eye Sack.

Highlights were hanging with Ledgie friends and meeting new ones. Oh, and watching Chris Eye Sack run past me all the way up to the lawn. He's hot. And texting Jaz.

What on earth compels her to sing Enchanted? Unbelievable.... And INTK? What does any of that have to do with Crystal Visions. Tired stuff dragged out one more time...have no idea what is going on in her head.

Landslide was touching as she had a montage of old photos and videos, mostly of her dad. At the end she said "thank you, Daddy".

Oh, and she delivered this Stevieism at the end:

"Take time to smell the roses because the world is an insane place and it's great we have a few moments where we can just be.":cool:

Sorry...this is random. I'm exhausted.

[Rickypt]

The sad reality for me is that I'm way more interested in seeing Chris Isaak than Stevie.

I might see him again. He was great.

[SNicksed]

I can't wait to see her. But damnit, MIX IT UP! I just don't friggin' get it. :shrug:

[diamondsnake]

Wow! This is a real shame. I think that if anyone connected to Stevie is reading this you need to slap her silly. This is just inexcusable. It is a brand new tour with new merchandise, a new CD, blah, blah, blah, yet this is an identical setlist to what she has been doing the last few years.

On the bright side, this makes me much less sad that I am missing this tour. I saw her in Tampa in February and that is good for me for a while. Until she changes things up, I have no desire to spend the money. And, I am a huge fan! I've seen her ten times in the last four years, and it has basically been the same set list each time. But this is the final straw.

Stevie and/or Stevie's people (and I know they read this board): Get with it! This is just embarassing at this point.

[catinthedark]

this is one time i hope that stevie, or someone close to her, reads this thread.

maybe she'll finally understand our disappointment. i'm not sure i've ever seen a thread like this be almost entirely unanimous in sentiment.

[Richard B]

Poor Stevie has gotten too old and set in her ways.

With Chris Isaak with her, a shame he didn't join Stevie in her set. Leather & Lace and SDMYA duets would have been simply great.

[skcin]

^ Agree. I'm actually really surprised that they didn't do anything together. :shrug: As for the setlist? I'm not surprised, but I am bored. If I score a really great pit seat (or a free one, lol) to Camden, I'll go. If not, I'll sit this one out. :(

BTW - full white dress? Like, a white/cream colored dress? Or that beige chiffon overlay thingy she tosses on over her black get-up?

Oh, and Amber - cute blurry dress. :angel:

[Nicks Fan]

Yawn!!! what a boring set list. I wonder if after Chris is gone when she 's doing her own solo shows if the set list will change? I highly doubt it. What gets me is this mindset that you have to please the casual fan while screwing over the one's who have supported you from the start and continue to do so.

I went to see Bon Jovi in Ottawa in 2001 and then on the next tour saw that the setlist was virtually the same so I skipped the Bounce Tour. Then in 2005 I saw them again in Montreal and heard some new songs not heard on the One Wild Night Tour,but the majority of the set was the same old same old (Keep The Faith, Wanted, Blaze of Glory,Bad Medicine, Livin on A Prayer etc). I doubt I will go on their next tour if they plan on rehashing the same old hits

The point I am making is that it I wonder how much this having to please the casual fan really matters anymore. She isn't as popular as she was so you might as well play what the die hards want because at least the shows will remain fresh to a certain extent. I wonder how long the casual fans she seems so obsessed with pleasing will continue to go.

It is things like this that make me love Melissa Etheridge more and more because she plays requests from the audience and also delves into her catalogue to play songs not often done.

Matt

[PenguinHead]

I hope you're right about that - they've got all freakin' day tomorrow to rehearse (It's Late) before the next show.

It's late
I'd better get to bed
Too bad
The set list made ya sad....

You think that song would be a no-brainer...an ideal opportunity for them to sing together...as a closer..."We gotta get home fast." I'm surprised their sets are so separate. At the very least I'd thought they'd make guest appearances in each other's set. Did I misread statements about this being a show with Stevie and Chris...together? And of course, the set list is as feared but expected. STEVIE AUTO-PILOT NICKS

[Beachwood Mac]

I'll be seeing Stevie next week in San Diego. Even though I've seen her solo in Vegas 4 times in the last few years, it will be her first solo appearance in San Diego since the TISL tour in 2001. To me the setlist is tired. To my friends who will be joining me and last saw her on the Enchanted tour, it will be refreshing. They have never seen Stevie perform Rock and Roll, If Anyone Falls, How Still My Love and Beauty and the Beast. When we say she doesn't think of her die hard fans when she selects her set list - exactly how are we defining die hard fans? If we count those who post on the message boards the number is quite small when you consider that maybe 10 and at the outside 20 attended last nights show in Concord. Out of 8000 or so in attendance that's a pretty small percentage. If you don't travel to Vegas or weren't lucky to be in a city when she toured with Don Henley or Tom Petty you probably have only seen her twice on a solo tour in the last decade. I can remember seeing FM back in the 70's when you were lucky to get 3 or 4 of Stevie's song in a whole concert. Back then you wished you could hear more and would have gladly settled for only hearing Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman and Landslide. I bet not too many of those in attendance will complain about the setlist. The majority of the crowd is there to hear the exact songs she is playing. During the SYW tour I remember all the fans going to the restroom or talking out loud during Beautiful Child. For the majority, they only want to hear the songs they hear over and over again. They aren't lucky enough to know of the vast number of songs she hasn't recorded or the hidden gems on the albums that only those of us who follow her so closely know about. I'll enjoy the show because over 30 years ago when I saw her for the first time I would never have dreamed I could still see her in concert today.

[AliceLover]

Yeah this stinks, especially when I had to pay 250 bucks for my ticket. Were there any costume changes? Whats this white dress hooplah?

[Liza]

Well I do understand where you are all coming from but from a fan of 30 years who lives in England would just love to have had the opportunity to hear these songs 4,5,6,10 or maybe even 1 or 2 in the last 10years!!:(

[AliceLover]

Stevie Nicks says there's only one drawback to having an artist like Chris Isaak open for her on her summer tour. She has to scale back the kind of set she would normally do for fans.

"I'm very happy to have Chris come with us, but I didn't really realize that meant I was going to have to shorten my set," Nicks said in a recent phone interview. "With his hour set and the 30-minute changeover, we won't go on until somewhere between 9:15 and 9:30, and curfews are 11 o'clock, and you'd better be done because if you're not, they'll pull your power."

Cutting three or four songs from what has traditionally been nearly a two-hour set is about the only thing that draws a complaint from Nicks these days. Her life and career have recovered from a period in which there was reason to wonder if Nicks could continue to be a vital force on the music scene. But, as Nicks herself said, her life today is fantastic.

I'm hoping when she dumps Chris in June, she adds a few more songs back into her set. Thats the only hope I have right now.

[SpyNote]

Stevie's reluctance to change her set reminds me of my friends who only like to eat pizza and hamburgers for dinner. :laugh:

[jkmaletic]

I'll be seeing Stevie next week in San Diego. Even though I've seen her solo in Vegas 4 times in the last few years, it will be her first solo appearance in San Diego since the TISL tour in 2001. To me the setlist is tired. To my friends who will be joining me and last saw her on the Enchanted tour, it will be refreshing. They have never seen Stevie perform Rock and Roll, If Anyone Falls, How Still My Love and Beauty and the Beast. When we say she doesn't think of her die hard fans when she selects her set list - exactly how are we defining die hard fans? If we count those who post on the message boards the number is quite small when you consider that maybe 10 and at the outside 20 attended last nights show in Concord. Out of 8000 or so in attendance that's a pretty small percentage. If you don't travel to Vegas or weren't lucky to be in a city when she toured with Don Henley or Tom Petty you probably have only seen her twice on a solo tour in the last decade. I can remember seeing FM back in the 70's when you were lucky to get 3 or 4 of Stevie's song in a whole concert. Back then you wished you could hear more and would have gladly settled for only hearing Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman and Landslide. I bet not too many of those in attendance will complain about the setlist. The majority of the crowd is there to hear the exact songs she is playing. During the SYW tour I remember all the fans going to the restroom or talking out loud during Beautiful Child. For the majority, they only want to hear the songs they hear over and over again. They aren't lucky enough to know of the vast number of songs she hasn't recorded or the hidden gems on the albums that only those of us who follow her so closely know about. I'll enjoy the show because over 30 years ago when I saw her for the first time I would never have dreamed I could still see her in concert today.


Well said Beachwood! And good point about her not being here solo since 2001. Even though I feel like i just saw her, it was with Petty.
Your so right about most people yakkin it up during some of the greatest, yet not radio-popular songs. As a big fan, I of course DO want to hear new stuff, but it is what it is. People can either go see her or not. I choose to go.

~jamie

*edit*
She HAS been in San Diego since 2001 - during the Gold Dust Tour and then one other time I think.

[Richard B]

it will be her first solo appearance in San Diego since the TISL tour in 2001.

Actually that is not true. She performed her Gold Dust Tour in San Diego as well. I should know, I was there, my last Stevie show I told myself I would ever see.
Although technically, Chula Vista. But it's all the same down south.

[wolfontherun]

She was on fire. She is so oviously having a good time on stage these past few years that the set list doesn't matter much to me. Her vocals have gotten sultrier, sexier. Her playfullness is intoxicating.

See this show jsut to hear her vocals. She will not be doing this much longer, cherish her while we still can.

To those complaining. Take her advice, "take time to smell the roses"

Those who are iffy about going, run don't walk.

[NoSpeedLimit]

A friend from this board txt messaged me that someone from Chris's people asked her if she'd like to dance on stage with Chris. She declined. :laugh:

She sent me phone pics of the new shirts - hard to see details but there's definitely a black t-shirt with the CD cover photo on it. There's also a red one (I think it's a ladies cut) that says Crystal Visions.

~jamie

Haha! There was NO WAY I was going up there lol

[Musicman408]

Well, apparently Stevie has mis-placed her copy of the new setlist. It's a good thing I have a copy. Will someone who has her email addy be so kind to shoot this off to her?

Thanks!

Gold Dust Woman
Dreams
I Can't Wait
Sable On Blonde
Rooms On Fire
Rhiannon
No Spoken Word
Sara
Stand Back
Think About It
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Sorcerer
Edge Of 17

I Need To Know
Rock & Roll
Beauty & The Beast

I totally will after I finish eating my dinner. :laugh:

Seriously though, that is a nice yet doable set list. Too bad Stevie didn't get the memo.

[The Catdancer]

She was on fire. She is so oviously having a good time on stage these past few years that the set list doesn't matter much to me. Her vocals have gotten sultrier, sexier. Her playfullness is intoxicating.

See this show jsut to hear her vocals. She will not be doing this much longer, cherish her while we still can.

To those complaining. Take her advice, "take time to smell the roses"

Those who are iffy about going, run don't walk.

Amen to that!!!!!:wavey:

[amber]

Amber -
Great pics! Great dress! :nod:

I'm glad you had a great time last night and I'm glad you posted about it. It was pretty gloomy in here last night as you can probably tell. So glad to hear her energy is high and that even tho it's same old same old, Stevie (and you) obviously had fun with it.
Did you get to the stage for Edge?

~jamie

:woohoo: Thank you! - Yeah, it sure is gloomy here. :laugh: Iown't care, though.
Anyway, yes, I got to the stage for the Edge rush, and finally, finally got to shake her little paw and say thank you. It was lovely. And yes, I had a great time :)

See this show just to hear her vocals.

WORD!

It is the sound of her voice that enchants me more than her songs, anyway, if that makes sense. I mean, obviously there is no voice without songs. But at home I have listened to the same Stevie songs a billion times, for a billion years. Every day. All the time. Because I have to hear her voice.
And so you can see why I, personally, am so delighted that her actual voice sounds so great on the songs. It's so awesome to have her voice completely surround you, so loud.

It sucks bad she didn't do anything with Eye-Sack, though. If there's anything I like better than Stevie's voice, it's Stevie's voice in harmony with someone else's.

[Rickypt]

To those complaining. Take her advice, "take time to smell the roses"



I never asked for your advice? :shrug:

[amber]

I never asked for your advice? :shrug:

Did you get enough sleep? :laugh: :xoxo: :xoxo:

[Rickypt]

BTW - full white dress? Like, a white/cream colored dress? Or that beige chiffon overlay thingy she tosses on over her black get-up?



Someone else might be able to describe better. For Edge, she put on a full white dress and then had a thin black coat/shawl thingy over it. In the front, it only covered her arms and shoulders (I think), so she was mostly white in front.

In other outfit news, she did not have the Rhiannon wings. For most of the show, she had a black scarf and I believe she had black gloves the entire time.

She was simply gorgeous and looked well rested.

[Rickypt]

Did you get enough sleep? :laugh: :xoxo: :xoxo:

:xoxo:

Well, no, actually.

But I would have posted that even if I were well rested. I am not interested in patronizing comments. I'm not telling other people how they should have reacted to the show. I'm posting my experience. The difference between the "complainers" and the Stevie "defenders" is that the complainers focus criticism on Stevie and the defenders focus criticism on the complainers. I do not buy the argument that Stevie should be without criticism because she will be retired soon. As long as she is releasing material and playing concerts, she is subject to criticism.

Anyway, let me stress that I agree 100% with Amber and wolfontherun that the vocals were superb and if you are fine with the setlist, then you will have an incredible experience.

For me, the boring and uninspired set list has eclipsed her vocals. I will smell the roses doing other things......:angel:

[Rickypt]

Stevie Nicks says there's only one drawback to having an artist like Chris Isaak open for her on her summer tour. She has to scale back the kind of set she would normally do for fans.

"I'm very happy to have Chris come with us, but I didn't really realize that meant I was going to have to shorten my set," Nicks said in a recent phone interview. "With his hour set and the 30-minute changeover, we won't go on until somewhere between 9:15 and 9:30, and curfews are 11 o'clock, and you'd better be done because if you're not, they'll pull your power."

Cutting three or four songs from what has traditionally been nearly a two-hour set is about the only thing that draws a complaint from Nicks these days. Her life and career have recovered from a period in which there was reason to wonder if Nicks could continue to be a vital force on the music scene. But, as Nicks herself said, her life today is fantastic.

I'm hoping when she dumps Chris in June, she adds a few more songs back into her set. Thats the only hope I have right now.


I don't even know what she is talking about. She did 14 songs last night. She did 15 songs in Gold Dust Tour. And she ended at 10:45, so there was time for one or two more songs before they pulled the plug. She is also welcome to cut the endless pre-Edge percussion/drum solo and the 5 minute intro to Rhiannon. :)

[amber]

She is also welcome to cut the endless pre-Edge percussion/drum solo and the 5 minute intro to Rhiannon. :)

But I like them! :D The drums seemed shorter last night.

[foxyluva]

I have decided to go on a Stevie strike - I will not be listening to any of her music until she changes her set

[The Tower]

It sucks bad she didn't do anything with Eye-Sack, though. If there's anything I like better than Stevie's voice, it's Stevie's voice in harmony with someone else's.
:nod: :nod: I love it best when Stevie harmonizes with herself. Course, she's not gonna do the lame self-absorbed-Barbra-Streisand-sings-A-Piece-of-Sky thang. At least she's got good judgement with regard to that.

I'm not at all surprised by the set list. I was waiting to see it before I bought tickets to the Greek in LA. I pretty much knew that it would be the same ole thing, so now I don't need to bother with getting tix.

Hey, Stevie- here's a request from this long time die-hard fan:

1) Release new material

2) Freshen up your set list

I'll be waiting. But, you ain't getting any more of my cash until we get something new.

[carrie721]

Course, she's not gonna do the lame self-absorbed-Barbra-Streisand-sings-A-Piece-of-Sky thang. At least she's got good judgement with regard to that.

hey! that bit was pretty much the highlight of my first 10 years of life. :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

This whole thing makes me a bit sad actually. She really has no spontaneity and I can really see why there were problems onstage on the last Mac tour. She is not flexible, where LB would pretty much try anything. It has to be very difficult to work in a situation like that.
Difficult and a complete drag.

With so many hard core, LOYAL fans bailing on multiple shows, I think sales will be a huge problem. I do not think the promotor will pull the plug because between Eye Sack and Nicks fan, they should sell enough tickets to at least break even.

Stevie really needs to wake up.

She is just lazy..always has been.It's true.

[BlackWidow]

So something has dropped from the set after every opening night performance. Which song will it be?

anything with a high note...:laugh:

[Rickypt]

anything with a high note...:laugh:

I would drop Enchanted because no one (except maybe Amber :xoxo: ) was interested in hearing that song. Most people sat down.

[markolas]

YES, I love Stevie Nicks. YES, I'm glad she's alive, YES, I'm thrilled she is touring at all. If the top ticket price was $55.00 maybe some of this would make sense. Especially in view of the Ticket Master Auctions that are pulling in in some cases over $1000 per seat!

Honestly, ticket prices are at least as big a factor for me as her setlist. I've never seen Stevie live. I did see LB when he was in Austin, and paid $45 a ticket. Great show. If I could get decent seats to see Stevie for $45, I'd be there in a minute. $150-200 a seat is not worth it to me.

[AliceLover]

How about we email Joe Benson because he is interviewing Stevie on Sunday. Maybe if they get enough emails they will ask her about the set list.

[email protected]

[Musicman408]

How about we email Joe Benson because he is interviewing Stevie on Sunday. Maybe if they get enough emails they will ask her about the set list.

[email protected]

That's a pretty good idea. I say we all do it. :nod:

[Hawkeye]

Like I said in the other thread his first question should just simply be "Stevie... WTF"

[BlackWidow]

oh, no. i am starting to feel that sinking feeling of dismay.

same old. same old.
"..all the same..baby..all the same..Rhiannon"

[BlackWidow]

How about we email Joe Benson because he is interviewing Stevie on Sunday. Maybe if they get enough emails they will ask her about the set list.

[email protected]

I just did.....:cool:

[MacMan]

The interview was probably already conducted.... There's a pic of him and her on his site... It seems recent.

Stevie Nicks and Joe's prom photo

[BombaySapphire3]

I have been one of the more vitriolic critics on here of her casual fan catering , jukebox oldies unchanging setlists of the last few years but I think I've found a new way to enjoy her shows and that is to no longer view them as rock concerts but as a cabaret type act like Judy Garland or Marlene Dietrich used to perform .Really her shows are no longer even a rock concert but if one can appreciate her as a touring legend the way people used to with these women it is easier to appreciate the show IMO.It works well for me as a middle aged gay man who knew people in the generation just before me that actually saw Judy or Marlene to imagine her shows that way now .I know everyone doesn't have that same frame of reference but when I think of having gone to the show as seeing a star reprise her career and looking beautiful and sounding great while she did it I found it possible to let go of alot of the expectations and resentments I had of still wanting her to behave as it was 1981 with and with the wildness and spontaneity she displayed then.

[mikeschmike]

hey! that bit was pretty much the highlight of my first 10 years of life. :laugh:

Thank you!:blob1:

[AliceLover]

Anyone here have a pic of this new dress I am hearing about?

[PenguinHead]

I have been one of the more vitriolic critics on here of her casual fan catering , jukebox oldies unchanging setlists of the last few years but I think I've found a new way to enjoy her shows and that is to no longer view them as rock concerts but as a cabaret type act like Judy Garland or Marlene Dietrich used to perform .Really her shows are no longer even a rock concert but if one can appreciate her as a touring legend the way people used to with these women it is easier to appreciate the show IMO.It works well for me as a middle aged gay man who knew people in the generation just before me that actually saw Judy or Marlene to imagine her shows that way now .I know everyone doesn't have that same frame of reference but when I think of having gone to the show as seeing a star reprise her career and looking beautiful and sounding great while she did it I found it possible to let go of alot of the expectations and resentments I had of still wanting her to behave as it was 1981 with and with the wildness and spontaneity she displayed then.

Wow! That's a absolutely astute perspective. It turned my head! Of all a sudden I want to be more forgiving, and think twice before I raise judgement. :wavey:

[BombaySapphire3]

Wow! That's a absolutely astute perspective. It turned my head! Of all a sudden I want to be more forgiving, and think twice before I raise judgement. :wavey:

Hey thanks I'm glad someone got it! If you were to read some of my past postings you can see that it is almost an epiphany.:laugh:

[Serrart]

Well I do understand where you are all coming from but from a fan of 30 years who lives in England would just love to have had the opportunity to hear these songs 4,5,6,10 or maybe even 1 or 2 in the last 10years!!:(

I can understand why she wouldn't do a long Europe tour but even only 5,6 days in London would be great. I'm sure most of her European fans would fly there.

Romy

[BlackWidow]

Hey thanks I'm glad someone got it! If you were to read some of my past postings you can see that it is almost an epiphany.:laugh:

I get what you are saying...I just will not pay to see the same show over and over again.:shrug:

[UnwindedDreams]

I get what you are saying...I just will not pay to see the same show over and over again.:shrug:

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

[AliceLover]

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

Thats what I am most looking foward too!! She didn't play Sorcerer or Fall From Grace last time she was here either, or even Rock and Roll. So technically she added 5 new songs to her set.

[Rickypt]

I have been one of the more vitriolic critics on here of her casual fan catering , jukebox oldies unchanging setlists of the last few years but I think I've found a new way to enjoy her shows and that is to no longer view them as rock concerts but as a cabaret type act like Judy Garland or Marlene Dietrich used to perform .Really her shows are no longer even a rock concert but if one can appreciate her as a touring legend the way people used to with these women it is easier to appreciate the show IMO.It works well for me as a middle aged gay man who knew people in the generation just before me that actually saw Judy or Marlene to imagine her shows that way now .I know everyone doesn't have that same frame of reference but when I think of having gone to the show as seeing a star reprise her career and looking beautiful and sounding great while she did it I found it possible to let go of alot of the expectations and resentments I had of still wanting her to behave as it was 1981 with and with the wildness and spontaneity she displayed then.

I get this...

And I could find myself in the same place if she would play appropriate venues for a cabaret act. Something more intimate.

[Rickypt]

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

I did forget that she has only done these in Vegas so I guess there are two "new" songs in the CV set list.

I know this has been said and we can go round and round, but there is a list of about only 20 songs, at most, that Stevie seems willing to perform live anymore. Most of them are in every set and then she does mild shuffling like drop INTK for half a tour and then bring it back.

It simply baffles me that one of the most prolific songwriters in history would limit herself that way. She played nothing from 3 out of 6 of her solo albums. She wastes (my opinion) two of her precious 14 songs on covers while she has her own masterpieces shoved in some desk drawer. Why did we get just that one brief moment of magic during Enchanted Tour when she was so willing to perform a daring set list? What happened?

It makes no sense to me and ultimately has becoming greatly disappointing.

[SuzeQuze]

I get what you are saying...I just will not pay to see the same show over and over again.:shrug:

I know, the way ticket prices have skyrocketed I'm really not inspired enough to see the same show again. I have other priorities at this point in my life. Odd, I know! ;)

[BombaySapphire3]

I get this...

And I could find myself in the same place if she would play appropriate venues for a cabaret act. Something more intimate.

From what people are saying about ticket sales in some venues this may happen sooner than later and perhaps by neccesity rather than choice.

[AliceLover]

I did forget that she has only done these in Vegas so I guess there are two "new" songs in the CV set list.

I know this has been said and we can go round and round, but there is a list of about only 20 songs, at most, that Stevie seems willing to perform live anymore. Most of them are in every set and then she does mild shuffling like drop INTK for half a tour and then bring it back.

It simply baffles me that one of the most prolific songwriters in history would limit herself that way. She played nothing from 3 out of 6 of her solo albums. She wastes (my opinion) two of her precious 14 songs on covers while she has her own masterpieces shoved in some desk drawer. Why did we get just that one brief moment of magic during Enchanted Tour when she was so willing to perform a daring set list? What happened?

It makes no sense to me and ultimately has becoming greatly disappointing.

Well, she had a new musical director for one.....

[estranged4life]

But I am STILL seeing her on May 30th, unless my death occurs before then, nothing (Not even the setlist) will stop me from having some free time for once.

Brian j.

ps - I was somehow locked out of the Ledge since Thursday night - Thanks for the help in fixing the problem Marty - Cheers!!!

[GardenStateGirlie]

so she's opening with stand back? anyone else feel that this makes the rest of the show sort of anti-climactic...especially for the casual concert goer? i just feel like with only a few energy charged songs, it's strange to enter the stage with this one.

so it's a definite that she will not be performing with chris? lame.

[no_spoken_word]

As someone who hasn't seen Stevie live since the first Vegas show, what I'm really concerned with is, is she still wearing the black top hat for Rock & Roll???

[MacMan]

so she's opening with stand back? anyone else feel that this makes the rest of the show sort of anti-climactic...especially for the casual concert goer? i just feel like with only a few energy charged songs, it's strange to enter the stage with this one.

so it's a definite that she will not be performing with chris? lame.

I thought the same until I saw that clip on youtube. I think it actually works as long as there is a long drum intro to lead it off, not the short one like in Vegas recently. I think it's sort of fitting and it's a good show opener, it fits in well with all the excitement everyone is feeling in anticipation for her to show up. Where I think they go abit wrong, is they then go into Dreams. They should keep the momentum going abit. The first show in Vegas this year went right into Gold Dust I believe after Stand Back... which is slower or mellower, but not as mellow as Dreams.

[dontlookdown]

snooze. yawn.

write some new songs, will you stevie?

[wolfontherun]

I never asked for your advice? :shrug:

I confess, guilty as charged. I am a Stevie defender. When I see someone being picked on my natural inclination is to defend that person, i love an underdog. In Stevies case though i must admit i defend with pleasure.

I forgot to say that I think that I have heard dreams live maybe 15 times and this performance was by far the best I have ever heard.

[wolfontherun]

I have been one of the more vitriolic critics on here of her casual fan catering , jukebox oldies unchanging setlists of the last few years but I think I've found a new way to enjoy her shows and that is to no longer view them as rock concerts but as a cabaret type act like Judy Garland or Marlene Dietrich used to perform .Really her shows are no longer even a rock concert but if one can appreciate her as a touring legend the way people used to with these women it is easier to appreciate the show IMO.It works well for me as a middle aged gay man who knew people in the generation just before me that actually saw Judy or Marlene to imagine her shows that way now .I know everyone doesn't have that same frame of reference but when I think of having gone to the show as seeing a star reprise her career and looking beautiful and sounding great while she did it I found it possible to let go of alot of the expectations and resentments I had of still wanting her to behave as it was 1981 with and with the wildness and spontaneity she displayed then.

Interesting and well put. Sometimes she gets close to self parody but always seams to veer off just in time.

Much of her "act" is as you say but then she belts out rock n roll and you realize this 50 something woman still can kick ass as a rock n roller.

She could have a second career as a Ditrich or Garland type of performer if she dropped all her rock songs and just did the torch songs. fOR THAT TYPE OF SHOW i WOULD PAY ANYTHING.

[Somajoseph]

I've enjoyed reading everyone's observations. I was sitting in the center of the pavilion, and Stevie's show-if you'd never seen it before, was really rocking. Waddy's guitars and the volume had alot to do with it.
I havent seen the clips on You Tube yet, but I am glad people can hear some of the vocals she did so well with.

[BombaySapphire3]

She could have a second career as a Ditrich or Garland type of performer if she dropped all her rock songs and just did the torch songs. fOR THAT TYPE OF SHOW i WOULD PAY ANYTHING.

Well she has made reference very recently to doing a standards type album ..at first I wasn't too thrilled with the idea as it has been done by many (Carly Simon, Rod Stewart etc.)but now I think she might be able to pull it off well, having heard how impressive her vocals were on Thursday. I really like her Etta James covers that she did for the Walden Woods benefits as well.so if she were to do that type of show in a smaller venue I'd be willing to shell out to see it too.

[Musicman408]

I've enjoyed reading everyone's observations. I was sitting in the center of the pavilion, and Stevie's show-if you'd never seen it before, was really rocking. Waddy's guitars and the volume had alot to do with it.
I havent seen the clips on You Tube yet, but I am glad people can hear some of the vocals she did so well with.

Yeah, its really exciting to hear that her vocals are sounding really well. I just hope they hold up for the whole tour. :nod:

[sodascouts]

I went to the show, too, and it's true even I was disappointed that it was the same setlist as Vegas without SDMHA. I was surprised she left that hit off, but perhaps it was to make room for something like How Still My Love (I liked how she sang "Should I say... how still my love" on that several times). However, my friend who went with me who is not a Stevie hardcore (she owns TimeSpace) said that she appreciated the fact that most of Stevie's songs were hits, so she could sing along.

Boring setlist aside, she was terrific vocally and had lots of energy. She danced so much for Stand Back she was out of breath. The crowd was also great, on their feet for almost the entire time. It was a good show. I guess if you're a hardcore looking for something new, this isn't the show for you. If you're a hardcore just wanting to have a good time seeing Stevie Nicks, give it a shot.

[BlackWidow]

Diod you see If Anyone Falls and How Still My Love performed before?

yes..over and over and over again..:rolleyes:

[BlackWidow]

I did forget that she has only done these in Vegas so I guess there are two "new" songs in the CV set list.

I know this has been said and we can go round and round, but there is a list of about only 20 songs, at most, that Stevie seems willing to perform live anymore. Most of them are in every set and then she does mild shuffling like drop INTK for half a tour and then bring it back.

It simply baffles me that one of the most prolific songwriters in history would limit herself that way. She played nothing from 3 out of 6 of her solo albums. She wastes (my opinion) two of her precious 14 songs on covers while she has her own masterpieces shoved in some desk drawer. Why did we get just that one brief moment of magic during Enchanted Tour when she was so willing to perform a daring set list? What happened?

It makes no sense to me and ultimately has becoming greatly disappointing.

All she has to do is pull out ONE SONG! ONE! But NOOOOOOoooooooo!!!
If she can still do Stand Back..then do I Can't Wait! What is the problem?
Can you imagine her opening with that???:rolleyes:

[UnwindedDreams]

yes..over and over and over again..:rolleyes: And you saw I Need To Know?:lol:

I think I Can't Wait would be so much better as a closer. I think it would suck as an opener.

[Rickypt]

I confess, guilty as charged. I am a Stevie defender. When I see someone being picked on my natural inclination is to defend that person, i love an underdog. In Stevies case though i must admit i defend with pleasure.

I forgot to say that I think that I have heard dreams live maybe 15 times and this performance was by far the best I have ever heard.

You can defend without telling other people how they should feel and what they should think. Stevie has opened herself up for legitimate criticism with uninspired set list. Everyone has praised her looks, voice, energy, and overall performance.

On edit: Yes, Dreams was really quite good.

[Rickypt]

As someone who hasn't seen Stevie live since the first Vegas show, what I'm really concerned with is, is she still wearing the black top hat for Rock & Roll???

Yes, same outfit.

[Rickypt]

so she's opening with stand back? anyone else feel that this makes the rest of the show sort of anti-climactic...especially for the casual concert goer? i just feel like with only a few energy charged songs, it's strange to enter the stage with this one.

so it's a definite that she will not be performing with chris? lame.

I'm mixed on SB as opener. It is definitely the strongest I've ever seen Stevie take the stage, but it is odd to have it over with so quickly in the set. It is a million times better than Enchanted, though.

And yes, very disappointing that there was nothing with Eye Sack. I guess it was never really said that they would be performing together, but I fully expected it.

[BlackWidow]

I'm mixed on SB as opener. It is definitely the strongest I've ever seen Stevie take the stage, but it is odd to have it over with so quickly in the set. It is a million times better than Enchanted, though.

And yes, very disappointing that there was nothing with Eye Sack. I guess it was never really said that they would be performing together, but I fully expected it.

Stevie does not have time to learn a new song..she is still working on the new FM setlist...:rolleyes:

[Rickypt]

Stevie does not have time to learn a new song..she is still working on the new FM setlist...:rolleyes:

She also didn't have time to prepare any songs with Eye Sack because she was busy working on the "brand new set list" and the solo version of Silver Springs. :lol:

[amber]

She also didn't have time to prepare any songs with Eye Sack because she was busy working on the "brand new set list" and the solo version of Silver Springs. :lol:

Maybe the whole time she was allegedly preparing, she was sitting in her house, smoking doobs, watching TV, and thinking:
"I should work out some new songs for my setlists...or make myself a sandwich...hmmm....maybe now I'll have some ice cream...ooo, I wonder if I should do Angel?...I think I'll have some chips now....Oh, good, it's time for America's Next Top Model!...What was I thinking about again?!...*squint, puff*...Oh, yeah, I better try on some outfits...maybe the black one...*squint, puff*..."


:laugh: :laugh: :wavey:

[BlackWidow]

She also didn't have time to prepare any songs with Eye Sack because she was busy working on the "brand new set list" and the solo version of Silver Springs. :lol:

and looking for the right time to do the New Orleans song...and the new solo album she has yet to start work on..come on..she must be exhausted by all of that. but hey..at least she's still alive...:laugh: :wavey:

[UnwindedDreams]

I had no doubt I would be seeing Ms.Nicks on her tour and the fact that she is doing "I Need To Know" is a sweet bonus for me.

You're happy about INTK? Good for you.

You're going tonight?

[BlackWidow]

I had no doubt I would be seeing Ms.Nicks on her tour and the fact that she is doing "I Need To Know" is a sweet bonus for me.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[BlackWidow]

no, I am seeing her next week inside a little tent in the desert. :woohoo:

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[UnwindedDreams]

no, I am seeing her next week inside a little tent in the desert. :woohoo: I'm going to say Soboba:laugh:

[AliceLover]

You're happy about INTK? Good for you.

You're going tonight?

Ive always liked this one as well. As far as I'm concerned, she can drop Rock and Roll because Ive been bored with that for a while. She breathed new life into I Need to Know last year with Tom Petty!

[Musicman408]

Ive always liked this one as well. As far as I'm concerned, she can drop Rock and Roll because Ive been bored with that for a while. She breathed new life into I Need to Know last year with Tom Petty!

She did, you are very right, but I'd still prefer no cover songs. Know what I mean?

[CrystalMeth]

Geez. Not even worth it. Sold my tickets this morning on eBay.:blob1:

[Fallfromgrace84]

I may be one of the lucky ones. I'm seeing her here in Ohio and by that time Eye Sack should be gone. With extra time to fill I'm sure she'll throw in something. Weather it's new material or not, (probably not) we'll see. IMO I think she's just worn down. Since she already has an entire show edited down, formatted and media ready for the big screens, she's running with it. It's like we're working for a big business (Stevie Corp.) and the big guy upstairs doesn't think like the little people working downstairs. She's going out and touring. As much as we hate the set list we can't complain too much. She's my damn grandma's age and still singing. GO STEVIE

[UnwindedDreams]

Geez. Not even worth it. Sold my tickets this morning on eBay.:blob1:
It's a ****ing co-headline tour...that's a lot for that...are u alright?

[BlackWidow]

I may be one of the lucky ones. I'm seeing her here in Ohio and by that time Eye Sack should be gone. With extra time to fill I'm sure she'll throw in something. Weather it's new material or not, (probably not) we'll see. IMO I think she's just worn down. Since she already has an entire show edited down, formatted and media ready for the big screens, she's running with it. It's like we're working for a big business (Stevie Corp.) and the big guy upstairs doesn't think like the little people working downstairs. She's going out and touring. As much as we hate the set list we can't complain too much. She's my damn grandma's age and still singing. GO STEVIE

at least she is still alive...:laugh: :wavey:

[CrystalMeth]

Why all the negativity about Chris Isaak? And no, I don't feel 14 songs is good for the money I paid to see Nicks. I'll probably never see her again at this rate. (believe me, I've seen her and Mac dozens of times) She's gotten very lazy.

[BlackWidow]

Why all the negativity about Chris Isaak? And no, I don't feel 14 songs is good for the money I paid to see Nicks. I'll probably never see her again at this rate. (believe me, I've seen her and Mac dozens of times) She's gotten very lazy.

....very lazy.

[Beachwood Mac]

I just posted the link to the Greek Theater May 19th show on the torrent thread for those interested in downloading it.

[DestinyRules]

i hope it's not landslide! :woohoo:

I hope it is. I'm beginning to hate that song.

[DestinyRules]

Poor Stevie has gotten too old and set in her ways.

With Chris Isaak with her, a shame he didn't join Stevie in her set. Leather & Lace and SDMYA duets would have been simply great.

Agreed. C'mon, isn't singing one or two songs she HASN'T done before too much to ask? For $125 per ticket?!

Unless I win a ticket or someone gives me one or she comes to my area on my birthday again, I'm not going. And I've seen the woman 10 times.

[carrie721]

I hope it is. I'm beginning to hate that song.

me too. i was being sarcastic. ;) :D