Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[strandinthewind]

Whose going and when?

Any and all updates are greatly appreciated!

[amber]

*sigh* I knew these threads would start to come. :(

[Beachwood Mac]

I'm going tomorrow (Tuesday) :thumbsup: . I'm not taking my laptop but I will try to find a way to post something after the show.

[strandinthewind]

^^^

Have Fun!!!!!!!

[Rickypt]

If anyone is willing to text the set list to me in realtime (PM me), I will post on the board. Even though we already know what it will be.

[Beachwood Mac]

^^^ Thanks! After being a fan and seeing her live for over 30 years I finally scored front row. I'm just praying I don't know the set list by heart :(

[Rickypt]

^^^ Thanks! After being a fan and seeing her live for over 30 years I finally scored front row. I'm just praying I don't know the set list by heart :(

Congrats and have a great time!!

[ontheEdgeof17]

Have fun everyone!

[GardenStateGirlie]

ahh...to be in warm vegas right now...

have a great time :wavey:

[EveryHour]

I'll be there every night, but won't be posting until I get back.

:wavey:

[estranged4life]

Y'all have fun (My mind is occupied elsewhere this week.)

I'll be awaiting the DVD's/CDR's of the Vegas shows.

[camchristo]

I'll be at Wednesday's show. I'm leaving tomorrow and coming home either Saturday night or Monday. I'm pretty sure my boyfriend will bring his laptop so I'll try to post the set list.

:woohoo:

[danax6]

ahh...to be in warm vegas right now...
I was under the impression it was still rather cold in Vegas. Hmm...

[The Catdancer]

I was under the impression it was still rather cold in Vegas. Hmm...

Aren't you in Vegas yet????

[danax6]

Aren't you in Vegas yet????Leaving tomorrow morning, bright and early at 4 am. :cool:

[The Catdancer]

Leaving tomorrow morning, bright and early at 4 am. :cool:

Whoa, that's early. To what show are you going? Not the Wednesday show, right? You'll be having jet-lag (or you're one of the lucky ones who don't have that).

[danax6]

Whoa, that's early. To what show are you going? Not the Wednesday show, right? You'll be having jet-lag (or you're one of the lucky ones who don't have that).I'll be arriving in Vegas two hours before the Wednesday show. Hell yes I'm going.

And no, I don't ever suffer from jetlag. Because of my job I sleep the oddest hours anyway, so my body's used to it. Besides, the 9 hours from Amsterdam to Chicago will be spent sleeping, thanks to these lovely pills my doctor prescribed for me.

[The Catdancer]

I'll be arriving in Vegas two hours before the Wednesday show. Hell yes I'm going.

And no, I don't ever suffer from jetlag. Because of my job I sleep the oddest hours anyway, so my body's used to it. Besides, the 9 hours from Amsterdam to Chicago will be spent sleeping, thanks to these lovely pills my doctor prescribed for me.

You lucky duck!!!!! Have you read what happened to Peg & me??? I still can't believe it. But I'm not giving up, where there's life there's hope. Maybe we'll meet in Vegas (would be nice to speak Dutch again for a change).

That's good that you don't have any jetlag. Be careful with those pills tho, you don't want to take too many.

Anyway, if we don't get to go (still praying for a miracle) have fun and stay safe!!! What seats did you get?

[danax6]

You lucky duck!!!!! Have you read what happened to Peg & me??? I still can't believe it. But I'm not giving up, where there's life there's hope. Maybe we'll meet in Vegas (would be nice to speak Dutch again for a change). I just read that, yes. Almost sounds like a bad case of karma. I think I would have walked from Portland to Nevada. :p


That's good that you don't have any jetlag. Be careful with those pills tho, you don't want to take too many.He gave me just enough sleeping pills to get me through a long boring flight. I hate flying. Not because it's scary, but because it's so utterly, ridiculously DULL.

[The Catdancer]

I just read that, yes. Almost sounds like a bad case of karma. I think I would have walked from Portland to Nevada. :p

I'm starting to think it is bad karma.... but what can you do??? Walk??? I don't think so, it's an 18 hour drive.....

He gave me just enough sleeping pills to get me through a long boring flight. I hate flying. Not because it's scary, but because it's so utterly, ridiculously DULL.

I love flying. Las time was when I got here in 2004, it's interesting to see where you're at, how cold it is up in the clouds etc. Anyway, if we do get to go to Vegas, would you like to meet up or are you going with friends?

[danax6]

I'm starting to think it is bad karma.... but what can you do??? Walk??? I don't think so, it's an 18 hour drive.....Hitchhike? :laugh:


I love flying. Las time was when I got here in 2004, it's interesting to see where you're at, how cold it is up in the clouds etc. Anyway, if we do get to go to Vegas, would you like to meet up or are you going with friends?I'll be meeting up with people, yes. I have no idea what we'll be doing or where, so...

[The Catdancer]

Hitchhike? :laugh:

I'll be meeting up with people, yes. I have no idea what we'll be doing or where, so...

I've thought about that. There must be a nice trucker going that direction :laugh:

OK, I was just wondering if you wanted to meet a fellow Dutch Stevie fan.
Well, have fun!!!! I just read on 7wonders that you have 2nd row tix, awesome. So do I!!! What section are you in? I'll give you a wave (IF I'm gonna be there at all).

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I'll be arriving in Vegas two hours before the Wednesday show. Hell yes I'm going.



Sounds like the time I went to Vegas to see Stevie in 2001. We arrived a couple of hours before the first show. I think I was up for around 30 hours straight due to the time difference

[The Catdancer]

Sounds like the time I went to Vegas to see Stevie in 2001. We arrived a couple of hours before the first show. I think I was up for around 30 hours straight due to the time difference

I did that in my 20's, now I'm in my 40's my head says:"You can do it" but my body goes:"Oh no, you can't". 'And I'm getting older too'.... It sucks :o

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I did that in my 20's, now I'm in my 40's my head says:"You can do it" but my body goes:"Oh no, you can't". 'And I'm getting older too'.... It sucks :o

LOL! We were only there for a weekend and I think I hardly shut my eyes. I thought I would sleep on the plane coming home but didn't manage that either!

[The Catdancer]

LOL! We were only there for a weekend and I think I hardly shut my eyes. I thought I would sleep on the plane coming home but didn't manage that either!

Oh God, just thinking about it makes me want to get some sleep. Did you at least get some sleep when you got home?

[danax6]

Sounds like the time I went to Vegas to see Stevie in 2001. We arrived a couple of hours before the first show. I think I was up for around 30 hours straight due to the time differenceHence the sleeping pills. I don't suffer from jetlag, but I will suffer from sleep deprivation. If I don't sleep, by the time the show will end I'd be awake close to 40 hours. :eek:

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Oh God, just thinking about it makes me want to get some sleep. Did you at least get some sleep when you got home?

I was actually quite ill when I got home! I think it all caught up with me! Was worth it to see Stevie though!

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Hence the sleeping pills. I don't suffer from jetlag, but I will suffer from sleep deprivation. If I don't sleep, by the time the show will end I'd be awake close to 40 hours. :eek:

I remember eating a steak at 3am and my body thinking it was 8 hours later!

[ELIUD]

Wow. I'm impressed with you people who travel across the world to see Stevie. I can't think of anybody I'd go see that far away. Not even family.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Wow. I'm impressed with you people who travel across the world to see Stevie. I can't think of anybody I'd go see that far away. Not even family.

It's the only way to get to see her! She hasn't toured solo over here since 1989. And when FM came in 2004 they'd not been since 1991 (I think)

[MirrorInTheSky]

I'll be there Friday and Saturday night. Would be cool to hook up with people before the show!

[sodascouts]

gypsyrhiannon (Kristin) and wldhrt315 are coming with me to the Vegas show tonight (Tuesday) and tomorrow. I honestly had no idea who was going so I didn't make any plans to meet up with a big group, but I am going to meet up with Sorceress. Should be fun!

[GardenStateGirlie]

gypsyrhiannon (Kristin) and wldhrt315 are coming with me to the Vegas show tonight (Tuesday) and tomorrow. I honestly had no idea who was going so I didn't make any plans to meet up with a big group, but I am going to meet up with Sorceress. Should be fun!

i haven't spoken to you in sooo long :wavey: have a great time at the show and tell kristin i say "hello" :nod:

[strandinthewind]

gypsyrhiannon (Kristin) and wldhrt315 are coming with me to the Vegas show tonight (Tuesday) and tomorrow. I honestly had no idea who was going so I didn't make any plans to meet up with a big group, but I am going to meet up with Sorceress. Should be fun!

HAVE FUN DARLIN'

:woohoo:

[greatdarkwing]

O.K....Is this THE place to be tonight? I feel like opening a bottle of wine and having fun while we wait for the setlist...Will we be getting it real time?

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
yep.

but where's the frickin setlist peeps? :shrug: :lol:

[danax6]

Yes, I'd like to hear something before I leave.

[ontheEdgeof17]

When is this suppose to go down?

[JazmenFlowers]

When is this suppose to go down?
it should be...what...30 mins into it? :shrug:

[danax6]

it should be...what...30 mins into it? :shrug:Is Vegas one or two hours earlier than EST?

[JazmenFlowers]

Is Vegas one or two hours earlier than EST?
2. 1 behind me and it's 9:35 here.

[greatdarkwing]

Right now, its 7:40 PM....Bootylicious should be blaring in like 30 minutes...

[JazmenFlowers]

Right now, its 7:40 PM....Bootylicious should be blaring in like 30 minutes...
did I screw up my timezones again? :lol:

oh well. I'm going to bed. nothing's going on so apparently no one there is too excited.

[danax6]

I'm so confused. Did you all recently set the clock an hour forward? It used to be that there was a 6 hour difference between here and the east coast, now it's only 5. I just checked all the clocks in my apartment, afraid that I missed something, which would make me miss my flight, lol.

edit: Or Jazzie is messing it up. Stop confusing me already. :mad: :laugh:

[JazmenFlowers]

I'm so confused. Did you all recently set the clock an hour forward? It used to be that there was a 6 hour difference between here and the east coast, now it's only 5. I just checked all the clocks in my apartment, afraid that I missed something, which would make me miss my flight, lol.
yes, we did. spring forward, fall back, right?

*scratches head* yeah, we did move up one hour just in the past couple weeks.

[JazmenFlowers]

http://www.homepeace.com/purple/images/timezones.gif

ok, I was wrong. :lol:

[danax6]

yes, we did. spring forward, fall back, right?

*scratches head* yeah, we did move up one hour just in the past couple weeks.I thought the whole world did that at the same time? We do it this weekend.

So Las Vegas is in the same time zone as LA. That's easy to remember then.

[MacMan]

I thought the whole world did that at the same time? We do it this weekend.

So Las Vegas is in the same time zone as LA. That's easy to remember then.

Last year the US changed the daylight savings time, which took effect this year, and moved it UP 3 weeks to save energy - so all of North America moved including Canada...

[SpyNote]

Do we got a play-by-play in place for tonight?

[estranged4life]

Do we got a play-by-play in place for tonight?
^^^^^
That's what I am awaiting for...

[greatdarkwing]

Uh-oh...we might not be getting a play by play afterall :laugh:

[MacMan]

Someone on 7wonders posted that she opened with Stand Back... How much truth there is to that....:shrug:

[danax6]

Someone on 7wonders posted that she opened with Stand Back... How much truth there is to that....:shrug:

Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
and apparantly a brand new intro.

Fug me if that's true. Wonder what other surprises she has up her sleeve then. :shrug:

Anyway, all my bags are packed, I'm ready to go... bye kids. Don't tear the place down while I'm gone. :wavey:

[greatdarkwing]

My two fav "hit" songs.....:( I should be partying in Vegas...

[greatdarkwing]

3rd song: If Anyone Falls
4th song: Stop Dragging...

[MirrorInTheSky]

Woo hoo! Good concert so far.

[greatdarkwing]

5th song: Dreams

OTR is gone...

[greatdarkwing]

I have a feeling something BIG is coming....At least I hope it is...

BTW, JazmenFlowers, did you delete your post? lol...cause I saw it and edited it and i guess you saw mine and deleted it :laugh:

[greatdarkwing]

6th song: Enchanted

I guess when Stevie heard the fans saying 'mix it up', she listened a little too literally :laugh:

[estranged4life]

I have a feeling something BIG is coming....At least I hope it is...


cause so far just the average material for the average Vegas crowd.

[greatdarkwing]

cause so far just the average material for the average Vegas crowd.

The last crowd in December was far from average...we could out-drink the rest of The Ledge hahaha

[estranged4life]

The last crowd in December was far from average...we could out-drink the rest of The Ledge hahaha

that crowd appearred drunk on the DVD of that show? :lol:

[greatdarkwing]

that crowd appearred drunk on the DVD of that show? :lol:

LMAO!! I think we can be held accountable for that.

7th song: Rhiannon

BTW, I have to mention I am taking this info from the 7 wonders board....

[greatdarkwing]

Im done posting a bajillion posts: I'll update this one...

(New Intro)
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
If Anyone Falls
Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Dreams
Enchanted
Rhiannon
I Need to Know
Landslide
Sorcerer
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love
Edge of Seventeen
----------------------
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast

[greatdarkwing]

Nothing new except for the running order....this blows...

[estranged4life]

Nothing new except for the running order....this blows...
^^^^
Oh well, maybe she will throw a bone in soon for the (us) diehards.

[greatdarkwing]

^^^^
Oh well, maybe she will throw a bone in soon for the (us) diehards.

I think she considers Sorcerer a "bone"

Oh and I guess Fall From Grace, too.

[SpyNote]

Thanks for the set list, Alex (and Seven Wonders).

American Idol is actually more interesting to me right now. :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Thanks for the set list, Alex (and Seven Wonders).

American Idol is actually more interesting to me right now. :laugh:
Hell, I'm listening to "Rush in Rio" since hoping for a bone for this Vegas show is outta question.

[SpyNote]

I wish I were in Vegas right now so I could bet on the remaining songs in the set. I'm putting everything on...

Edge
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast

What are my odds?

[estranged4life]

I wish I were in Vegas right now so I could bet on the remaining songs in the set. I'm putting everything on...

Edge
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast

What are my odds?

2-to-1 would be my guess.

[greatdarkwing]

I wish I were in Vegas right now so I could bet on the remaining songs in the set. I'm putting everything on...

Edge
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast

What are my odds?

1.00000000000000000000000000000000001 to 1

:thumbsup:

[greatdarkwing]

Judging by the sudden stops in updates, its safe to assume 'Edge' is on now....BTW, Brian and I expect you to split your winnings, accordingly. LOL

[estranged4life]

I noticed she is playing "How Still My Love (For the same set of songs nightly)" :shrug: :laugh:

[greatdarkwing]

Im off to bed....I changed the setlist with our "99 %" probability. Good night, guys

[golden braid]

Nothing new except for the running order....this blows...

I don't understand why Stevie would go to the trouble of changing the songs around but not add in any new songs. What's the point? This is very disappointing although I'm not surprised. I expected nothing new.

[SpyNote]

I don't understand why Stevie would go to the trouble of changing the songs around but not add in any new songs. What's the point? This is very disappointing although I'm not surprised. I expected nothing new.

Stevie's idea of mixing things up, literally. :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Here is a setlist spoiler for the show on March 21:

(New Intro)
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
If Anyone Falls
Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Dreams
Enchanted
Rhiannon
I Need to Know
Landslide
Sorcerer
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love
Edge of Seventeen
----------------------
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast


^^^^
I just couldnt resist y'all...:lol:

[PenguinHead]

Stevie's idea of mixing things up, literally. :laugh:

Yeah, it's her way of shuffling the few decks of cards she holds on to compulsively. I'll wish she would play with a full deck, so to speak, and realize she has a wealth of other songs she could perform.

Isn't it normal for an performer/artist to change overtime and strive to evolve? I see that in Lindsey, but surprisingly not Stevie. Seemingly, she has devolved into suspended animation. It's evident, with a few exceptions, in her extremely stale and musty set lists.

It wouldn't be so obvious except for the fact that she's been touring heavily on and off since the Say You Will tour ended. And in every single tour, show, appearance...it was always that limited stable of songs shuffled around.

At this latter stage of her career, I'd hope she would want to revisit other areas of her catalog other than the same old common ground. It was great to have her do cover songs. However, rather embassingly, even the casual TV viewers who happened to catch Stevie on TV at various times and years are likely to her perform the same songs. It's like "She's still singing that song!? Does she even have any other songs??"

[The Tower]

Nothing new except for the running order....this blows...

Worst. Set. List. Ever.

Stevie, you suck. Get a freeking clue and do something about your material or faggetaboutit.

[GarboSpeaks!]

Ouch Tower...tell us how you really feel. heehee. (and is that a doggie doing a line in your icon pic?? )

I've been really meloncholy about not being there this go round. But I figure another $800 in tix alone to hear the same ol thing? Just a real bummer. I mean part of me still wishes I was there, the other part is so ticked that it's the same show. Jeesh.

[MirrorInTheSky]

I dunno...while I would like to see some new songs that she hasn't done before, it's always exciting to see her no matter what she sings. I'm sure I'll be up and dancing to every song like it's the first time I've heard it. :]

[sodascouts]

Complain all you want, folks, it was a magnificent show and worth every penny. I haven't seen Stevie this confident vocally or spirited in a performance in a long time. She looked better than I've seen her before, too - she opened with the boots and a shorter skirt, without that blasted corset that ends square at her hips (although a version of that came out later - it was so low cut, though, that most eyes never made it that far down). She had obviously lost weight since the Superbowl.

But what's more important was her delivery. I was less than impressed with her Superbowl Stand Back, so I was a little nervous about her vocals tonight. I was delighted that they were in top form. She took risks, like going high instead of montone all the time. She got so into her performance that she even did the high kick for Stand Back in her books. She exuded confidence and she seemed to really enjoy herself. I loved it, and it reminded me just why I made a site for her and Lindsey in the first place.

BTW, her changing of the setlist was a vast improvement. Starting with Stand Back amped everything up a notch - got people right into it, right off the bat.

I understand your frustrations - all hardcores, including myself, want all sorts of new and different songs. But Stevie rocked tonight. She is an amazing performer. She is an amazing singer, and she gave it all she got. She delivered, people. I think most of the people who actually attended this show will agree with me.

[Kelly]

I am exhausted but wanted to reply quickly. I agree Nancy. Stevie was fantabulous tonight. I dunno, she was just "on". Very happy and animated, which I like.

Interesting adlibs at the end of GDW and BATB was good but not as good as the first Vegas go around. Also, unless I am deaf, I did not hear any type of new intro. It was the old Dreams intro. There are some changes in the footage shown on the screens behind her, too. Landslide had some photos that I have never seen.

There are some pretty awesome new t shirts as well. They do not look like they were made by CN, as they are actually worth buying. :lol: I really like one that has the singles on it. Hopefully someone else with more brain cells can describe it better. I. Must. Sleep. Now. :p

[MacMan]

Also, unless I am deaf, I did not hear any type of new intro. It was the old Dreams intro.

I'm thinking it's the violin intro to Gold Dust Woman. At the Hard Rock show in February, the intro was the violin intro the Melbourne Orchestra created.

[strandinthewind]

Enchanted
Sorcerer
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love

These are not hits and she could easily switch them out for another non-hit. Lazy :(

[strandinthewind]

. . . I see that in Lindsey, but surprisingly not Stevie . . . .

He plays the same set every night as well :shrug: She just tours more than he does. So, I think her unwillingness to change is more apparent.

[strandinthewind]

Worst. Set. List. Ever.

Stevie, you suck. Get a freeking clue and do something about your material or faggetaboutit.

I love her music, but am sooooo happy I did not blow a grand to go to Vegas and hear her drone the three notes she clings to for 75% of these songs.

She needs to swap out at least four of those songs. But, she never will I guess.

[strandinthewind]

Complain all you want, folks, it was a magnificent show and worth every penny. I haven't seen Stevie this confident vocally or spirited in a performance in a long time. She looked better than I've seen her before, too - she opened with the boots and a shorter skirt, without that blasted corset that ends square at her hips (although a version of that came out later - it was so low cut, though, that most eyes never made it that far down). She had obviously lost weight since the Superbowl.

But what's more important was her delivery. I was less than impressed with her Superbowl Stand Back, so I was a little nervous about her vocals tonight. I was delighted that they were in top form. She took risks, like going high instead of montone all the time. She got so into her performance that she even did the high kick for Stand Back in her books. She exuded confidence and she seemed to really enjoy herself. I loved it, and it reminded me just why I made a site for her and Lindsey in the first place.

BTW, her changing of the setlist was a vast improvement. Starting with Stand Back amped everything up a notch - got people right into it, right off the bat.

I understand your frustrations - all hardcores, including myself, want all sorts of new and different songs. But Stevie rocked tonight. She is an amazing performer. She is an amazing singer, and she gave it all she got. She delivered, people. I think most of the people who actually attended this show will agree with me.

Glad to hear she was at least daring vocally. Also glad you had fun!

[AliceLover]

Im sure it was a great show, but this just sucks. Im glad she replaced OTR with INTK. I need to know is such a rocker and im glad its back. I heard she barely changed for this show.

[jkmaletic]

Cool set re-arrangement.

Was security tight with the cameras again? Anyone get any pictures?
I'd love to see what the t-shirts look like.

[JazmenFlowers]

setlist sucks. I went to bed hoping I'd get up and see that something amazing had happened. damnit. well, I surely feel better about not spending $1000 on a trip out there. I've done the Vegas/Stevie show...circa 2005. :cool:

glad everyone had a great time and that Stevie was "feelin'" it. that's awesome. and can't wait to see pics and the new merch.

[Rickypt]

Enchanted
Sorcerer
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love

These are not hits and she could easily switch them out for another non-hit. Lazy :(

Add to that:

INTK
Rock and Roll

Six songs that she could switch out. Instead, she put all the same old same sold songs on little pieces of paper, went to the craps table at Caesar's, put all the pieces of paper in the cup and tossed them out on the table to form a set list.

Then she freaked out and put Edge, Rock and Roll, and BATB back in their rightful place.

Can't believe she finally dumped Enchanted from the opening song but still kept it in the list.

I'm glad I didn't spend the money this time around. Although very glad to hear she put on a great performance.

[Little Nicki]

He plays the same set every night as well :shrug: She just tours more than he does. So, I think her unwillingness to change is more apparent.

Nope, he changes at least a couple from leg to leg, even including the occasional audience request that most certainly wasn't rehearsed. Whereas she changes nothing from tour to tour.

[Rickypt]

I don't understand why Stevie would go to the trouble of changing the songs around but not add in any new songs. What's the point? This is very disappointing although I'm not surprised. I expected nothing new.

Guess we won't be visiting priceline today to get our last minute Vegas plane tickets? ;)

[golden braid]

Guess we won't be visiting priceline today to get our last minute Vegas plane tickets? ;)

I guess not. One less thing to stress about.

[JazmenFlowers]

Whereas she changes nothing from tour to tour.
that's not exactly true.

I mean, if we're talking tour to tour, that's not true.

[strandinthewind]

Nope, he changes at least a couple from leg to leg, even including the occasional audience request that most certainly wasn't rehearsed. Whereas she changes nothing from tour to tour.

That is not true. I am pretty sure he is playing the same set list.

Stevie's setlist has changed on every tour, to wit (thanks nicksfix) -

Bella Donna Tour - 1981

Gold Dust Woman
Think About It
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Angel
After the Glitter Fades
Gold And Braid
I Need to Know
Sara
Bella Donna
Blue Lamp
Leather and Lace
How Still My Love
Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (slow, piano only version)
Rhiannon (Full Rock Version)


The Wild Heart Tour - 1983

Gold Dust Woman
Outside the Rain
Dreams
I Need to Know
Sara
If Anyone Falls
Leather and Lace
Stand Back
Beauty and the Beast
Gypsy
How Still My Love
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (piano and rock versions)
Notes: In New York @ Radio City Music Hall special guest Tom Petty -- added the song "I Will Run to You." This song was performed between "How Still My Love" and "Stop Draggin'..".


Rock a Little Tour - 1986

During the first week or week and a half of the tour:

Gold Dust Woman
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Talk to Me
I Need to Know
No Spoken Word
Sara
Beauty and the Beast
I Can't Wait
Leather and Lace
Stand Back
Stop Draggin'
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (both versions)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You

By a week or so later..(4/22/86) "Sara" was dropped; however "I Can't Wait" still remained between "Beauty and the Beast" and "Leather and Lace". Sometime in the next 2 or 3 weeks (by mid-to-late May "I Can't Wait" and "Leather and Lace" were switched...)
Still later in the tour...by sometime before middle of June 86 "Gold Dust Woman" had been dropped completely from the set list.


The Other Side of the Mirror Tour - 1989 (October 1989)

Outside the Rain
Dreams
Rooms on Fire
Gold Dust Woman
Stand Back
Alice
No Spoken Word
How Still My Love
Beauty and the Beast
Whole Lotta Trouble
Two Kinds of Love
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You
In the Canada leg of the Tour (summer 1989), two other songs were performed: "Talk to Me" and "Juliet"


Timespace Tour - 1991

Outside the Rain
Dreams
I Need to Know
Talk to Me
Beauty and the Beast
Stop Draggin'
Rooms on Fire
If Anyone Falls
(Drum solo) -- Stand Back
Whole Lotta Trouble
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (rock version only)
Landslide


Street Angel Tour - 1994
Early Tour -- East Coast, Chicago, etc.

Outside the Rain
Dreams
Docklands
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Destiny
Gold Dust Woman
(band intros.)
Talk to Me
Blue Denim
Edge of Seventeen
I Need To Know (encore)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (encore)

Greek Theatre: (California)
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Rooms on Fire
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Destiny
Gold Dust Woman
(band intros.)
Talk to Me
Blue Denim
Edge of Seventeen
I Need To Know (encore)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (encore)


Enchanted Tour - 1998

Outside The Rain
Dreams
Enchanted
Gold Dust Woman
Gold and Braid
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
After The Glitter Fades
Garbo
Rose Garden
Sleeping Angel
Stand Back
Rhiannon
(Band Intros)
Whole Lotta Trouble
Landslide
Twisted
Edge of Seventeen
I Need to Know (encore)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You (encore)
Notes: "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" was dropped from the set on the later shows. "Leather and Lace" was added in Phoenix with Don Henley.


Trouble In Shangri-La Tour - 2001
Opening Night Set List (with Sheryl Crow):

Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Enchanted
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Gold Dust Woman
Sorcerer
My Favorite Mistake
Everyday
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Planets of the Universe
Everyday Is A Winding Road
Too Far From Texas
Bombay Sapphires
Fall From Grace
Edge of Seventeen
(Encore)
I Need to Know
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You


Stevie Nicks Las Vegas

At The Colosseum at Caesars Palace on May 10, 11, 13 and 14 2005

Enchanted
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Stand Back
Landslide
Gold Dust Woman
If Anyone Falls
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love
Drum Solo
Edge of Seventeen

I Need to Know
Beauty and the Beast

Stevie Nicks with Don Henley - June 2005

Ten shows from June 3 to June 19. The opening night setlist for the June 3rd Stevie Nicks/Don Henley show is below:

Don Henley

The Genie
Witchy Woman
I Put a Spell on You
Hotel California (with Stevie)
New York Minute (with Stevie)
The Last Worthless Evening (with Stevie)
Boys of Summer
Heart of the Matter
Dirty Laundry
Life in the Fast Lane
All She Wants to Do is Dance

encore

End of the Innocence
Desperado

Stevie Nicks

Outside The Rain
Dreams
Rhiannon
Enchanted
Gold Dust Woman (with Don Henley)
Circle Dance (Bonnie Raitt cover)
Band Introduction
Stand Back
Beauty and the Beast
Edge of Seventeen

encore

Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around (with Don Henley)
Leather and Lace (with Don Henley)
So You Wanna Be A Rock and Roll Star (with Don Henley)
(set list variedy slightly between shows)

Stevie Nicks Gold Dust Tour - Summer 2005

This was 23 cities across the US starting on June 24 and ending August 6.

Outside the Rain
Dreams
Enchanted
Stop Draggin My Heart Around
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Gold Dust Woman
Stand Back
I Need to Know
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You
Circle Dance (Bonnie Raitt Cover)
Fall From Grace
Drum Solo
Edge of Seventeen
Rock And Roll (Led Zeppelin Cover)
Beauty and the Beast
(The set list varied slightly, especially in Phoenix when Don Henley was present.}


Stevie Nicks Gold Dust Tour - Australia/New Zealand 2006

This was 10 cities in Australia and New Zealand starting on Feb 18 and ending March 7.


Outside The Rain
Dreams
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Enchanted
Has Anyone Ever Written
Stand Back
If Anyone Falls
Beautful Child
Stop Draggin
Gold Dust Woman
Fall From Grace
Landslide
Edge Of 17

encore

Rock And Roll
Beauty And The Beast

_____________________________________________________

So, she is not stagnant :shrug: My beef with her is I want her to change it up even more. But, I do love that she did Circle Dance, R&R, etc.

I also think she will change it way up for the upcoming tour as these sort of one offs are not really full on tours, etc.

[strandinthewind]

that's not exactly true.

I mean, if we're talking tour to tour, that's not true.

And - her last three tours were pretty much with other people and she sang on their songs as well.

[JazmenFlowers]

That is not true. I am pretty sure he is playing the same set list.
thanks for doing the research I was too lazy to do. oh, and ITA.
And - her last three tours were pretty much with other people and she sang on their songs as well.
exactly. yeah, this time around I'm disappointed and the setlist sucks. but that's not to say that Stevie hasn't changed her setlist more often than some would admit or acknowledge.

[estranged4life]

(although a version of that came out later - it was so low cut, though, that most eyes never made it that far down).

positive side, setlist aside, I would like to have seen that....Hell I would pay to see that :D :nod:


Actually, I wonder what the odds are for a setlist change once the tour w/"Eye-sack" starts?

At least I am not familiar with his setlist order (Both Deb & myself like his music, so she will be in tow with me for the OKC show May 30th) so at worst I wont be nitpicking his performance (I listen to WAY TOO MUCH music by other artists - and yes (!!!) I nitpick their setlists too :nod: )

[BTFLCHLD]

stevie herself has said that she starts with the last set-list performed and then makes slight adjustments. :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

. . . exactly. yeah, this time around I'm disappointed and the setlist sucks. but that's not to say that Stevie hasn't changed her setlist more often than some would admit or acknowledge.

Well, she has sort of been on The Gold Dust Tour for two years now, though last Summer she took a break and hit the road with Petty, which was splendid.

Again, I think though she will keep most of the hits, she and CI will do some new and cool stuff.

As for Rock and Roll - she may be promoting this as a single :shrug:

[The Tower]

Ouch Tower...tell us how you really feel. heehee. (and is that a doggie doing a line in your icon pic?? )
Nope, Bubbles isn't doing coke- she's chewing a "stickie". She's tiny (she only weighs two pounds).

Stevie's setlist has changed on every tour, to wit (thanks nicksfix) -
Well, I don't think it's Stevie's desire to change things up that has created this- all of her tours (with the exception of these last solo tours over the last two years) have been backing up some sort of new material. Even Enchanted and Timespace had things that were either new or unreleased/unheard.

Stevie's practice is to pull out the same old warhorses (nothing past 1981 with the exception of "Stand Back") and lightly sprinkle them with one or two new cuts (of which one or two are dropped after the first few shows). I can live with that, I guess. However......

This whole thing is ridiculous. It's like the Malibu Stacy episode of the Simpsons "LOOK!!!! It's Malibu Stacy! And she's got a new HAT!! She is better than ever!!!"

Stevie has officially jumped the shark into Dinosaurland.

So, she is not stagnant :shrug: My beef with her is I want her to change it up even more. But, I do love that she did Circle Dance, R&R, etc.

I also think she will change it way up for the upcoming tour as these sort of one offs are not really full on tours, etc.
You are DREAMING. It will never happen.

[BlackWidow]

Im done posting a bajillion posts: I'll update this one...

(New Intro)
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
If Anyone Falls
Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Dreams
Enchanted
Rhiannon
I Need to Know
Landslide
Sorcerer
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love
Edge of Seventeen
----------------------
Rock and Roll
Beauty and the Beast

The Rehash Tour..I'm skipping it!:distress:

[AliceLover]

That is not true. I am pretty sure he is playing the same set list.

Stevie's setlist has changed on every tour, to wit (thanks nicksfix) -

Bella Donna Tour - 1981

Gold Dust Woman
Think About It
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Angel
After the Glitter Fades
Gold And Braid
I Need to Know
Sara
Bella Donna
Blue Lamp
Leather and Lace
How Still My Love
Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (slow, piano only version)
Rhiannon (Full Rock Version)


The Wild Heart Tour - 1983

Gold Dust Woman
Outside the Rain
Dreams
I Need to Know
Sara
If Anyone Falls
Leather and Lace
Stand Back
Beauty and the Beast
Gypsy
How Still My Love
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (piano and rock versions)
Notes: In New York @ Radio City Music Hall special guest Tom Petty -- added the song "I Will Run to You." This song was performed between "How Still My Love" and "Stop Draggin'..".


Rock a Little Tour - 1986

During the first week or week and a half of the tour:

Gold Dust Woman
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Talk to Me
I Need to Know
No Spoken Word
Sara
Beauty and the Beast
I Can't Wait
Leather and Lace
Stand Back
Stop Draggin'
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (both versions)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You

By a week or so later..(4/22/86) "Sara" was dropped; however "I Can't Wait" still remained between "Beauty and the Beast" and "Leather and Lace". Sometime in the next 2 or 3 weeks (by mid-to-late May "I Can't Wait" and "Leather and Lace" were switched...)
Still later in the tour...by sometime before middle of June 86 "Gold Dust Woman" had been dropped completely from the set list.


The Other Side of the Mirror Tour - 1989 (October 1989)

Outside the Rain
Dreams
Rooms on Fire
Gold Dust Woman
Stand Back
Alice
No Spoken Word
How Still My Love
Beauty and the Beast
Whole Lotta Trouble
Two Kinds of Love
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You
In the Canada leg of the Tour (summer 1989), two other songs were performed: "Talk to Me" and "Juliet"


Timespace Tour - 1991

Outside the Rain
Dreams
I Need to Know
Talk to Me
Beauty and the Beast
Stop Draggin'
Rooms on Fire
If Anyone Falls
(Drum solo) -- Stand Back
Whole Lotta Trouble
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon (rock version only)
Landslide


Street Angel Tour - 1994
Early Tour -- East Coast, Chicago, etc.

Outside the Rain
Dreams
Docklands
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Destiny
Gold Dust Woman
(band intros.)
Talk to Me
Blue Denim
Edge of Seventeen
I Need To Know (encore)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (encore)

Greek Theatre: (California)
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Rooms on Fire
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Destiny
Gold Dust Woman
(band intros.)
Talk to Me
Blue Denim
Edge of Seventeen
I Need To Know (encore)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (encore)


Enchanted Tour - 1998

Outside The Rain
Dreams
Enchanted
Gold Dust Woman
Gold and Braid
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
After The Glitter Fades
Garbo
Rose Garden
Sleeping Angel
Stand Back
Rhiannon
(Band Intros)
Whole Lotta Trouble
Landslide
Twisted
Edge of Seventeen
I Need to Know (encore)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You (encore)
Notes: "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" was dropped from the set on the later shows. "Leather and Lace" was added in Phoenix with Don Henley.


Trouble In Shangri-La Tour - 2001
Opening Night Set List (with Sheryl Crow):

Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Enchanted
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Gold Dust Woman
Sorcerer
My Favorite Mistake
Everyday
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Planets of the Universe
Everyday Is A Winding Road
Too Far From Texas
Bombay Sapphires
Fall From Grace
Edge of Seventeen
(Encore)
I Need to Know
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You


Stevie Nicks Las Vegas

At The Colosseum at Caesars Palace on May 10, 11, 13 and 14 2005

Enchanted
Outside the Rain
Dreams
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Stand Back
Landslide
Gold Dust Woman
If Anyone Falls
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love
Drum Solo
Edge of Seventeen

I Need to Know
Beauty and the Beast

Stevie Nicks with Don Henley - June 2005

Ten shows from June 3 to June 19. The opening night setlist for the June 3rd Stevie Nicks/Don Henley show is below:

Don Henley

The Genie
Witchy Woman
I Put a Spell on You
Hotel California (with Stevie)
New York Minute (with Stevie)
The Last Worthless Evening (with Stevie)
Boys of Summer
Heart of the Matter
Dirty Laundry
Life in the Fast Lane
All She Wants to Do is Dance

encore

End of the Innocence
Desperado

Stevie Nicks

Outside The Rain
Dreams
Rhiannon
Enchanted
Gold Dust Woman (with Don Henley)
Circle Dance (Bonnie Raitt cover)
Band Introduction
Stand Back
Beauty and the Beast
Edge of Seventeen

encore

Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around (with Don Henley)
Leather and Lace (with Don Henley)
So You Wanna Be A Rock and Roll Star (with Don Henley)
(set list variedy slightly between shows)

Stevie Nicks Gold Dust Tour - Summer 2005

This was 23 cities across the US starting on June 24 and ending August 6.

Outside the Rain
Dreams
Enchanted
Stop Draggin My Heart Around
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Gold Dust Woman
Stand Back
I Need to Know
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You
Circle Dance (Bonnie Raitt Cover)
Fall From Grace
Drum Solo
Edge of Seventeen
Rock And Roll (Led Zeppelin Cover)
Beauty and the Beast
(The set list varied slightly, especially in Phoenix when Don Henley was present.}


Stevie Nicks Gold Dust Tour - Australia/New Zealand 2006

This was 10 cities in Australia and New Zealand starting on Feb 18 and ending March 7.


Outside The Rain
Dreams
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Enchanted
Has Anyone Ever Written
Stand Back
If Anyone Falls
Beautful Child
Stop Draggin
Gold Dust Woman
Fall From Grace
Landslide
Edge Of 17

encore

Rock And Roll
Beauty And The Beast

_____________________________________________________

So, she is not stagnant :shrug: My beef with her is I want her to change it up even more. But, I do love that she did Circle Dance, R&R, etc.

I also think she will change it way up for the upcoming tour as these sort of one offs are not really full on tours, etc.


What bugs me is that its been the same set for the past 2 years. Circle Dance and Rock and Roll did nothing for me because I'd rather see something from her own catalogue. This set is SO DISAPPOINTING.

If this is what Waddy meant by switching it up, then I am fuming!

[skcin]

She got so into her performance that she even did the high kick for Stand Back in her boots.


Hmmmmm.....hip replacement perhaps? :shrug:

Glad you all had a good time.


There are some pretty awesome new t shirts as well. They do not look like they were made by CN, as they are actually worth buying. :lol: I really like one that has the singles on it. Hopefully someone else with more brain cells can describe it better. I. Must. Sleep. Now. :p

Ooooh. Cool merchandise is always a plus. And anything's better than that cheap-ass gold sack keychain from '05.

Enchanted
Sorcerer
Fall From Grace
How Still My Love

These are not hits and she could easily switch them out for another non-hit. Lazy :(

Or a HIT! Hello? Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Rooms on Fire, Planets of the Universe....

He plays the same set every night as well :shrug:

That is not true. I am pretty sure he is playing the same set list.


No, that's not true. LB has changed his setlist up more that once throughout this tour. Not every show is different, but I'd estimate there have been about 7 or 8 songs that he's put in, changed out, or done at least once. It's usually the encore, but still. He does it.




While I'm not really surprised or upset that La Nicks didn't change anything except the order, I do wish she'd toss in a few "hits" since she's touring to support the new VBO package. I do think there's still some hope that she may, since the "Vegas" setlist seems to always stay the same, even when in the midst of a tour. What I mean is, she always does IAF & HSML in Vegas, but not everywhere else. And she did Circle Dance on the tour in '05, but not in Vegas. :shrug: It's like Vegas stands alone & is a separate little mini tour for her.

[bikerchic]

:distress: Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards AND girl can't sing anymore. Why else would she not change her setlist? Plus, she probably thinks, these fools keep paying the big bucks for the same setlist, so why should I change it? :shrug:

[Little Nicki]

That is not true. I am pretty sure he is playing the same set list.

Stevie's setlist has changed on every tour, to wit (thanks nicksfix) -

...

So, she is not stagnant :shrug: My beef with her is I want her to change it up even more. But, I do love that she did Circle Dance, R&R, etc.

I also think she will change it way up for the upcoming tour as these sort of one offs are not really full on tours, etc.

I'm not the most informed about Lindsey's set lists, partly because I try not to memorize them song for song so that I can be ever so slightly surprised at shows, but off the top of my head I know he added Turn It On (previously NEVER played anywhere), Shut Us Down, and Steal Your Heart Away. Plus one spontaneous Bwana by request. And in a radio interview, he played Down On Rodeo all by himself for the first time because the interviewer requested it. And of course there were occasional tunes thrown in every other show at the beginning of the tour but they didn't last.

As for Stevie, I'm not talking about the 80s and neither was everybody else. We're talking about the last 2 or 3 years. Granted, she threw in a couple covers and sang backup to other people. Whoopie.

[The Tower]

It's like Vegas stands alone & is a separate little mini tour for her.
You would think that, since she already knows that Vegas is going to consist of people that are just buying the ticket to buy the ticket (like any other Vegas show), she would use Vegas as an opportunity to treat her die hards to something different or fresh. It's criminal. These days, Las Vegas is an entertainment hub that almost everyone in America can get to inexpensively with many different choices of accomodation. It's not like she's in Madison, WI or something and has to worry about pleasing the regional public.

:distress: Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards....
This is the worst part of it. She is alienating her main constituency that keeps her going through the good times and bad- her die-hard fans. I, for one, have had quite enough.

Whoopie.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Somajoseph]

:distress: Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards AND girl can't sing anymore. Why else would she not change her setlist? Plus, she probably thinks, these fools keep paying the big bucks for the same setlist, so why should I change it? :shrug:

It's so interesting to read everyone's reactions to ANYTHING Stevie does or dosent do. Lots of peaks and valleys on the board. Everyone can be excited, like say for instance, about the DVD, then she does her Vegas show and is ripped to shreds.
I live in San Francisco and it would be so easy to jump on a plane and get to Vegas, but I'm pretty realistic about my expectations of where Stevie seems to be at the moment,so I stay home and when she plays SF, I will probably go. It wont cost me much, I'll get to enjoy her show, and despite her vocal limitations, I wont rip her and say she cant sing anymore, because she can.Sure, her voice isnt near what it was, but I still get a rush when I hear it live.

[Livia]

I'm glad those who went had a good time. :D

I had booked a free roundtrip w/ my rapid rewards, just in case a set list miracle occurred. I will now be saving that and my $$ for an Eye Sack show, or perhaps another band touring this summer.

[strandinthewind]

. . . You are DREAMING. It will never happen.

History suggests otherwise :shrug:

But, we shall see.

If I am correct, drinks are on YOU in LA dear :D

[BTFLCHLD]

curious...do you think, as it is vegas, people are expecting that show? For instance, I don't think Celine or anyone else with a vegas-type show switches it up much...I could be wrong. :shrug: For now, Stevie is doing the four shows but it is possible she could be considering a recurring show in the future. If I was seeking to hear something different, I suppose I would be disappointed in that. But, I would not be disappointed in her peformance - she is amazing to listen to and watch - no matter the song. IMO.

[skcin]

:distress: Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards AND girl can't sing anymore. Why else would she not change her setlist? Plus, she probably thinks, these fools keep paying the big bucks for the same setlist, so why should I change it? :shrug:

Alright, drama queen, relax. :rolleyes: We all know the bitch can still sing. It's probably because she hates us. :laugh:

curious...do you think, as it is vegas, people are expecting that show? For instance, I don't think Celine or anyone else with a vegas-type show switches it up much...I could be wrong. :shrug:

Well, that's what I'm hoping. :o

[77Rumours77]

Wow, I forgot how great the Enchanted t our set was! THat was one of my favorite concerts of all time! One of my firsts too!
Wow, ......
Garbo;
Rose Garden;
Gold And Braid;
After The Gliter Fades;
Twisted;
Whole Lotta Trouble;
Sleeping Angel.

That was backing a box set/GH compilation.... Maybe since there is a bella donna section on the DVD... mayube.... just maybe, we will get some bella donna stuff. Shes got the time to rehearse.
Pluse... I am actually going to see stevie nicks this summer......I could care less if she sings dreams for 2 hours. I am just glad I am going to see her!

[Livia]

If Stevie were to ever take up a semi-permanent residency at Caesars, she'd have the budget to really take this show to another level. Bring in some dancers (Rhiannon ballet?), have a much more elaborate set, special effects and costume changes, a la Cher. But would the set list change? Probably not, because it's Vegas - where you're only concern is pleasing the masses, not the diehards.

[skcin]

If Stevie were to ever take up a semi-permanent residency at Caesars, she'd have the budget to really take this show to another level. Bring in some dancers (Rhiannon ballet?), have a much more elaborate set, special effects and costume changes, a la Cher. But would the set list change? Probably not, because it's Vegas - where you're only concern is pleasing the masses, not the diehards.

I hope she still has Brad Jeffries' phone number. :angel:



:lol:

[strandinthewind]

AND girl can't sing anymore . . . .

She nailed Circle Dance and sang the shiitte out of Rock & Roll :shrug: So, I think she can still do it. I think she is just on auto pilot during the same old songs.

[strandinthewind]

. . . As for Stevie, I'm not talking about the 80s and neither was everybody else. We're talking about the last 2 or 3 years. Granted, she threw in a couple covers and sang backup to other people. Whoopie.

You said tour to tour :shrug:

But and in any event, let's see what she does with CI - I think it will be like her tour with DH.

[strandinthewind]

I hope she still has Brad Jeffries' phone number. :angel:



:lol:

I love you for that - so much so, I may send you my tan Members Only jacket :woohoo:

[skcin]

I love you for that - so much so, I may send you my tan Members Only jacket :woohoo:

I'm the luckiest girl in the world. :angel:

[Rickypt]

I also think she will change it way up for the upcoming tour as these sort of one offs are not really full on tours, etc.

What are you smoking out there in Atlanta and how can I get some? :cool:

[Rickypt]

The Rehash Tour..I'm skipping it!:distress:

I'm only going to the local one. Not shelling out $$ to travel for this setlist. I'll have to meet you another time. :wavey:

[Rickypt]

Just off the top of my head, here are some songs that Stevie could still sing, even if she has to rework them a bit. If she took only TWO of them and switched with INTK, Enchanted, Fall From Grace, How Still My Love, Rock and Roll, Sorcerer, then she would still satisfy the casuals with the hits and would shut the rest of us up in a nanosecond.

Brainstorming here....

Think About It
Highwayman
Nightbird
Angel
Storms? maybe too high
No Questions Asked
Crystal
If You Ever Did Believe
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Blue Denim
Talk To Me
Doing The Best That I Can
Rooms On Fire

Hell, bring back Gold And Braid

I'm getting depressed.

[The Tower]

What are you smoking out there in Atlanta and how can I get some? :cool:

Brainstorming here....

Think About It
Highwayman
Nightbird
Angel
Storms? maybe too high
No Questions Asked
Crystal
If You Ever Did Believe
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
Blue Denim
Talk To Me
Doing The Best That I Can
Rooms On Fire

Hell, bring back Gold And Braid

I'm getting depressed.
How on Earth did Jason get that great hashish laced ganja over to you in such a record time? What, does he have a freeking pot teleporter or something????

[The Tower]

History suggests otherwise :shrug:

But, we shall see.

If I am correct, drinks are on YOU in LA dear :D
It's a bet. You're on Miz Sausage Pattie!

And I. Will. Win.

[Rickypt]

How on Earth did Jason get that great hashish laced ganja over to you in such a record time? What, does he have a freeking pot teleporter or something????

:laugh: :lol: Actually I'm all hopped up on coffee and Claritin.:nod:

[strandinthewind]

What are you smoking out there in Atlanta and how can I get some? :cool:

By reviewing how she changed the set list for the tour with Henley and how those changes stayed for the GD tour :wavey: :p :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

How on Earth did Jason get that great hashish laced ganja over to you in such a record time? What, does he have a freeking pot teleporter or something????

I will never devulge my methods to you - NEVER I SAY!

[Rickypt]

While I'm being crabby....I don't like Stand Back as opening song. I can see that it could get the crowd moving in a big way, but I would feel like seven minutes into the show I didn't have much left to live for. :distress:

[UnwindedDreams]

While I'm being crabby....I don't like Stand Back as opening song. I can see that it could get the crowd moving in a big way, but I would feel like seven minutes into the show I didn't have much left to live for. :distress: I think it's a freakin awesome opener! Prob her best choice for an opener:thumbsup:

And you know what...things will change...these are warmups:)

[The Tower]

What bugs me is that she often doesn't seem inspired when singing the same old songs, then doesn't cover new ground very much lately. Even though she still could do something great and artistic.
She's practically somnambulant during "Rhiannon". :nod:

[Rickypt]

I think it's a freakin awesome opener! Prob her best choice for an opener:thumbsup:

And you know what...things will change...these are warmups:)

Well, you are Little Miss Polly Anna all the time, so I expect that kind of answer from you. :p :D

[sodascouts]

:distress: Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards AND girl can't sing anymore. Why else would she not change her setlist? Plus, she probably thinks, these fools keep paying the big bucks for the same setlist, so why should I change it? :shrug:

I keep paying the big bucks because I love to see Stevie perform. I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes. So be it. I'm enjoying myself and think it was worth the money. I understand your disappointment, but I'm not sure there's a need to make insulting judgments on other fans as a result. JMHO.

[The Tower]

I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes. So be it. I'm enjoying myself and think it was worth the money. I understand your disappointment, but I'm not sure there's a need to make insulting judgments on other fans as a result.
Theresa, where the hell do you get off calling Nancy a fool?!??


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[skcin]

While I'm being crabby....I don't like Stand Back as opening song. I can see that it could get the crowd moving in a big way, but I would feel like seven minutes into the show I didn't have much left to live for. :distress:

:lol: :laugh: :lol: Sorry, I found this hilarious.

I keep paying the big bucks because I love to see Stevie perform. I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes. So be it. I'm enjoying myself and think it was worth the money. I understand your disappointment, but I'm not sure there's a need to make insulting judgments on other fans as a result. JMHO.

I don't think T meant that she thinks Stevie literally can't sing - she's coming up with reasons why she won't change the setlist. In other words - these are the only reasons why Theresa thinks would/should stop her from doing so. I know it's hard to understand her, she is Canadian after all. :D

[sodascouts]

If she took only TWO of them and switched with INTK, Enchanted, Fall From Grace, How Still My Love, Rock and Roll, Sorcerer, then she would still satisfy the casuals with the hits and would shut the rest of us up in a nanosecond.

Oh, yeah, that would shut everyone up, no doubt. I mean, yeah, she put in two different songs for the previous tour - Circle Dance and Rock'n'Roll - but that doesn't count because they were covers. What we'd all certainly be satisfied with is two new songs of her own.... but they should be newer than 1981 because she has too much Belladonna... well, unless it's songs like Sorcerer or Fall from Grace... those aren't hits and should be dropped... oh wait, hits are for the masses not the hardcores, I forgot, Stevie needs to show us more appreciation... Oh wait, she has to get a new wardrobe too, and then we'd all shut up undoubtedly... unless the outfit is black, because otherwise it doesn't count. Oh wait, she needs to lose weight too, and THEN we'd all shut up.

Forget it.

In the words of the immortal Ricky Nelson, "You can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself." Apparently she is. People have every right to be disappointed and to express that, but to claim that doing two "new" songs would shut up everyone in a nanosecond... come on!

[sodascouts]

I don't think T meant that she thinks Stevie literally can't sing - she's coming up with reasons why she won't change the setlist. In other words - these are the only reasons why Theresa thinks would/should stop her from doing so. I know it's hard to understand her, she is Canadian after all. :D

Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

[strandinthewind]

. . . but to claim that doing two "new" songs would shut up everyone in a nanosecond... come on!

It certainly would quiet a few :cool:

In the end, the vasst majority of the people at her shows do not know the setlist or that it is stale. They also likely are the ones that take a piss during Fall Fron Grace because they do not want to miss Dreams. That does not make them bad people.

[skcin]

Oh, yeah, that would shut everyone up, no doubt. I mean, yeah, she put in two different songs for the previous tour - Circle Dance and Rock'n'Roll - but that doesn't count because they were covers. What we'd all certainly be satisfied with is two new songs of her own.... but they should be newer than 1981 because she has too much Belladonna... well, unless it's songs like Sorcerer or Fall from Grace... those aren't hits and should be dropped... oh wait, hits are for the masses not the hardcores, I forgot, Stevie needs to show us more appreciation... Oh wait, she has to get a new wardrobe too, and then we'd all shut up undoubtedly... unless the outfit is black, because otherwise it doesn't count. Oh wait, she needs to lose weight too, and THEN we'd all shut up.

Forget it.

In the words of the immortal Ricky Nelson, "You can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself." Apparently she is. People have every right to be disappointed and to express that, but to claim that doing two "new" songs would shut up everyone in a nanosecond... come on!


Good God. :rolleyes: Who pissed in your Cheerios, Nancy? Theresa & I were both with you 2 years ago defending the setlist, the lack of promised costume changes, etc. I know what you're saying. But you're seriously going to argue with peoples' disappointments & sarcastic comments? You come on. Of course we're disappointed - surprised, no. Disappointed yes!


Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

I will explain it. Theresa feels like a fool for continuing to spend money for the same show over & over again. :wavey:

[AliceLover]

It certainly would quiet a few :cool:

In the end, the vasst majority of the people at her shows do not know the setlist or that it is stale. They also likely are the ones that take a piss during Fall Fron Grace because they do not want to miss Dreams. That does not make them bad people.

If Stevie did Alice on this tour, I would shut up permanantly with my complaints. But thats just me.


IM SO GLAD OTR is gone. That one was so run into the ground. I hope this isn't what Waddy meant when he said "We're thinking of mixing it up."

Its just depressing when you know she has so many better songs to do on stage than Enchanted.

[Livia]

Yeah, I could say the same thing. But her setlist is becoming staler than the crumbs from that chocolate cake she supposedly scarfed down backstage fifteen-odd years ago.

:D Great reference, but I believe it was a chocolate cream pie. :p

[SortaSavageLike]

Look, I can tell you people are all really upset about this. I think you need to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

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[HejiraNYC]

This is disappointing but expected. I love Stevie and appreciate the fact that she is still on the road singing great and looking great, but I'm afraid even I have reached the limits of my patience with her. I'm afraid I'm going to sit out her upcoming solo dates, although I may attend one of the dates with Eye Sack. :distress: At this point, I think I would rather see Stevie retire once-and-for-all, rather than continue this downward spiral into tedium and obsolescence. Maybe it is time for her to pull a Joni Mitchell: retire from music, do artwork and pursue other causes, and then come back when she is inspired again to write, record and create music simply for the pleasure of creating music. Mama is clearly burned out and is resting on her laurels.

I used to think that if the online fan community could get together and sign a "Dear Stevie" letter outlining our sorrow with her stale setlists and lack of new songs, she would somehow be awoken from her fog and realize that she doesn't have to be a hits jukebox all the time, and that it's okay to try something new and fail sometimes. Now I don't think it would make any difference. Mama is on autopilot because she can get away with it. She doesn't give a sh*t about the audience, other than their ability to buy a ticket. In her own words, "This isn't about art..." :distress:

[strandinthewind]

Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

Good Lord -- might I suggest going to the gym and hitting on the punching bag for an hour to vent this frustration, which I think comes from your internal and unadmitted frustration at the unaltered, same old tired set list :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

. . . She doesn't give a sh*t about the audience, other than their ability to buy a ticket.

Actually, if the vast majority of the people there are there for the hits, then your statement is false because she is giving the vast majority of the people what they want :shrug:

I will never forget one of the TISL shows I went to and many people were horrified and upset that Landslide was not in the set. A few of them were cursing her. I was elated because it meant room for one more TISL song. I was clearly in the minority.

In the end, she has too many hits. A fate I wish I could suffer.

[QUOTE=HejiraNYC;667524]In her own words, "This isn't about art..." :distress:

:rolleyes:

[sodascouts]

I guess I did come off pissy! I didn't mean to sound VERY upset; just annoyed. I know I'm not the only one who can get carried away in replies around here. ;) What a way to get back on the Ledge, eh?

P.S. But I was always careful to say I didn't mean people shouldn't express disappointment!

[gldstwmn]

I love her music, but am sooooo happy I did not blow a grand to go to Vegas and hear her drone the three notes she clings to for 75% of these songs.

She needs to swap out at least four of those songs. But, she never will I guess.


Yup. I forgot there was even a show last night. :o

[AliceLover]

[QUOTE=HejiraNYC;667524] . . . She doesn't give a sh*t about the audience, other than their ability to buy a ticket.

Actually, if the vast majority of the people there are there for the hits, then your statement is false because she is giving the vast majority of the people what they want :shrug:

I will never forget one of the TISL shows I went to and many people were horrified and upset that Landslide was not in the set. A few of them were cursing her. I was elated because it meant room for one more TISL song. I was clearly in the minority.

In the end, she has too many hits. A fate I wish I could suffer.



:rolleyes:

Its not even about hits. She doesn't even do the majority of hits she has. Talk to Me, I Can't Wait, and Rooms on Fire are goldmines waiting to be opened. She chooses to do sh*t like Enchanted, Rock and Roll, and How Still My Love. Its SOOO frustrating. I try and not get amped up everytime but I do.

[Johnny Stew]

I guess I did come off pissy! I didn't mean to sound VERY upset; just annoyed. I know I'm not the only one who can get carried away in reples around here. ;) What a way to get back on the Ledge, eh?Yeah, Nancy... how dare you act all melodramatic? You know we don't behave like that around here. ;) :xoxo:

Me... I'm so terribly distraught over this setlist business, I'm going to burn all my Stevie albums, break my DVDs, and go on a hunger strike until something changes.

Or until dinner time. Whichever comes first.

[strandinthewind]

^^

I think she is promoting R&R as a single on the new retrospective. But, who knows.

I say sing TTM, Rooms on Fire, MLWCYM, and Crying in the Night.

But, she'll never do it. So, that is that.

[UnwindedDreams]

I say sing TTM, Rooms on Fire, MLWCYM, and Crying in the Night.

But, she'll never do it. So, that is that. She'll do TTM;)

[gldstwmn]

Thanks for the explanation - feel free to volunteer justification for the fool comment, too. As Tower noted, I didn't like it too much. I just don't have his patience to bear such things... he's always demonstrating how well he takes criticism here on the Ledge.

You're in Vegas for Chrissakes. Go gamble, have some fun!

[gldstwmn]

I will explain it. Theresa feels like a fool for continuing to spend money for the same show over & over again. :wavey:

As do a good many of us. Christ, I couldn't even muster up the energy to go see Lindsey. And at this point, I've no interest in seeing this set live. :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

Good Lord -- might I suggest going to the gym and hitting on the punching bag for an hour to vent this frustration, which I think comes from your internal and unadmitted frustration at the unaltered, same old tired set list :wavey:

Maybe she's just tired or hung over? Or she lost at Craps? It is Vegas after all. :laugh:

[SortaSavageLike]

[QUOTE=strandinthewind;667526]

Its not even about hits. She doesn't even do the majority of hits she has. Talk to Me, I Can't Wait, and Rooms on Fire are goldmines waiting to be opened. She chooses to do sh*t like Enchanted, Rock and Roll, and How Still My Love. Its SOOO frustrating. I try and not get amped up everytime but I do.

How Still My Love and Rock and Roll are "****?" Whatever. :rolleyes:

[The Tower]

Me... I'm so terribly distraught over this setlist business, I'm going to burn all my Stevie albums, break my DVDs, and go on a hunger strike until something changes.
Again?!?!?

When did you amass enough money to replace everything you burnt and destroyed from last year?

:rolleyes:

She'll do TTM;)
I don't think she can do "Talk to Me". If she was forced to lower the key on "Stop Draggin'...." to point where it sounds like a 45rpm played at 33rpm, I highly doubt she can pull off that one.

[gldstwmn]

She'll do TTM;)

She can't sing it in it's original key anymore.

[The Tower]

Maybe she's just tired or hung over? Or she lost at Craps? It is Vegas after all. :laugh:
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Stevie is getting Vegas confused with Branson, Missouri - Not much difference except the Vegas crowd (usually) still have their original teeth :rolleyes:

[UnwindedDreams]

I don't think she can do "Talk to Me". If she was forced to lower the key on "Stop Draggin'...." to point where it sounds like a 45rpm played at 33rpm, I highly doubt she can pull off that one. But she's hitting the notes on Stop Draggin'...:nod:

[gldstwmn]

But she's hitting the notes on Stop Draggin'...:nod:

Where? She made Petty and The Heartbreakers lower it from the original key.

[Johnny Stew]

Again?!?!?

When did you amass enough money to replace everything you burnt and destroyed from last year?I sold some naked pics of Rosie O'Donnell to Donald Trump. He was so excited, he played with himself right there in the limo.

FYI... that rat's nest on top of his head isn't the only hair he combs over. Blech.

[UnwindedDreams]

Where? She made Petty and The Heartbreakers lower it from the original key. All this summer and the FL shows, she hit the high Stop Draggin My Heart Around

[sodascouts]

You're in Vegas for Chrissakes. Go gamble, have some fun!

It's terrible, but I actually held my class in a chatroom today so we didn't miss too many classes (hey, I gave them Monday off). As such I was stuck online when I should be having a heck of a lot more fun! Believe me, now that class is over, I intend on having some fun... as soon as Kristin and Tiff finish their naps.

What can I say. We're not wild women!

P.S. I'm also holding chat class for my business writing class tomorrow.... which meets at 7:30 am EST.... 4:30 am here. I hope I'm sober enough to type straight. ;)

P.P.S. About my luck in Vegas... and other things....

NO COMMENT.

[Beachwood Mac]

Just a few added comments from last night. I agree with Nancy and Kelly - her vocals were brilliant and noticeably so. After all these years I finally got to experience the edge walk. She grabbed both of my hands and looked me in the eyes and said thank you. To me? Now that I've experienced it I no longer have the need to sit in the front row. It's too close and sitting amongst the casino freebie crowd was boring.

No need to debate on a sell out. I haven't read every post so not sure if it was mentioned but the entire upper level was empty. I watched as people entered and they had staff upgrading seats to those seated in a section other than the lowest level. I guess blah would be the best description of the crowd as a whole. It was so different from the first time she was at Ceasar's. There were the usual fans but for the most part I think the crowd was made up of people just wanting to see a show and not caring who it was.

In a way I got excited when Stand Back was first because I was sure she would have added new songs to the setlist. Even though she didn't, it was a great show and I'll still go see her on this summer's tour. The security guard told me before Edge that the order of the setlist had changed from the printed copy they were given.

As for the t-shirts. great if you were a lady but the only men's shirt that I saw was the Dreams Vegas shirt with the new dates. And no tourbooks - just Teddy bears :shrug:

[AliceLover]

[QUOTE=AliceLover;667530]

How Still My Love and Rock and Roll are "****?" Whatever. :rolleyes:

Well maybe **** was a bad word to use. Rock and Roll doesn't really excite me anymore. How Still my Love is a mood song for me. Its just sad knowing there are so many other songs she could be doing from her own collection.

[estranged4life]

I felt the need to laugh today, so I think it's time to rename Stevie's song in the Vegas setlist:

New Intro ("Earache My Eye"-Alice Bowie)
Stand Back (Same ol setlist alert)
Goldust Vegas Casino Woman
If Anyone Falls for Me Changing Up the Setlist
Stop Dragging this Song Around In a Different Key
Dreams of a Different Setlist Nightly
Enchanted with the Same ol' Same ol'
Rhiannon (Birds of a Feather Flock Together)
I Need to Know If I Can Do a Different Song
Landslide of the Apparent Hits
Sorcerer Make those Ledgies Gimme their $$$$
Fall From Originality
How Still My Love for the same ol' Setlist
Edge of Seventeen Songs Played on tour since 1983
-------------------------------
(Encore break to change Depends and count how much $$$ I made from the Vegas rubes)
Rock and Roll (Led Zep My Band Aint)
Beauty and the Tired ol' Beast

There, mission accomplished - Yet another thread killed :thumbsup:

[The Tower]

All this summer and the FL shows, she hit the high Stop Draggin My Heart Around
Ever since Stevie resurrected SDMHA back in Vegas 2005, she has been singing it in a much lower key. I believe she lowered it by a two whole steps, or even a third- but, I'll have to check on my piano later at home.

[HejiraNYC]

No need to debate on a sell out. I haven't read every post so not sure if it was mentioned but the entire upper level was empty. I watched as people entered and they had staff upgrading seats to those seated in a section other than the lowest level.

Thanks for this bit of info!

I don't want to wish anything ill upon Mama, but the fact that she is not selling out such a small theatre is telling. Mama brought this on herself- this is what she gets for not keeping things fresh for her audience- either by changing the set list or releasing new material. I hope it does make her a little bit concerned. I hope this sends home the message that she can't expect people to keep paying to see the same tired sh*t over and over again, especially when tickets cost $160 a pop. :eek: Money talks, as the old saying goes...

[mikeschmike]

I felt the need to laugh today, so I think it's time to rename Stevie's song in the Vegas setlist:

New Intro ("Earache My Eye"-Alice Bowie)
Stand Back (Same ol setlist alert)
Goldust Vegas Casino Woman
If Anyone Falls for Me Changing Up the Setlist
Stop Dragging this Song Around In a Different Key
Dreams of a Different Setlist Nightly
Enchanted with the Same ol' Same ol'
Rhiannon (Birds of a Feather Flock Together)
I Need to Know If I Can Do a Different Song
Landslide of the Apparent Hits
Sorcerer Make those Ledgies Gimme their $$$$
Fall From Originality
How Still My Love for the same ol' Setlist
Edge of Seventeen Songs Played on tour since 1983
-------------------------------
(Encore break to change Depends and count how much $$$ I made from the Vegas rubes)
Rock and Roll (Led Zep My Band Aint)
Beauty and the Tired ol' Beast

There, mission accomplished - Yet another thread killed :thumbsup:

:lol: :lol: This is the best **** I've read all day.

[HejiraNYC]

Ever since Stevie resurrected SDMHA back in Vegas 2005, she has been singing it in a much lower key. I believe she lowered it by a two whole steps, or even a third- but, I'll have to check on my piano later at home.

How can you resurrect something that never went away? :lol:

I believe the key was dropped starting way back on the TISL tour in 2001.

[BTFLCHLD]

I don't want to wish anything ill upon Mama, but the fact that she is not selling out such a small theatre is telling. Curious, how many seats are there?

[The Tower]

How can you resurrect something that never went away? :lol:

I believe the key was dropped starting way back on the TISL tour in 2001.
I don't remember her playing this on the TISL tour- are you sure, mister???

[The Tower]

I don't remember her playing this on the TISL tour- are you sure, mister???

Wow, I'm getting old.

My memory was telling me that she opened Las Vegas with SDMHA and that's where I noticed the ridiculous key drop.

But, it was TISL. Jeezus, was that really SIX years ago!!!

[HejiraNYC]

I don't remember her playing this on the TISL tour- are you sure, mister???

It was, um, her opening song for the whole tour! :wavey:

[wheart]

Thanks for this bit of info!

I don't want to wish anything ill upon Mama, but the fact that she is not selling out such a small theatre is telling. Mama brought this on herself- this is what she gets for not keeping things fresh for her audience- either by changing the set list or releasing new material. I hope it does make her a little bit concerned. I hope this sends home the message that she can't expect people to keep paying to see the same tired sh*t over and over again, especially when tickets cost $160 a pop. :eek: Money talks, as the old saying goes...

I'm with you here!! Same songs, same outfits, same videos do not generate excitement and they certaintly don't generate revenue. That's just plain business sense. I never thought Stevie would be an entertainer who would "rest on her laurels" but...I believe it has happened. I do like the new order of the songs but that's not going to be enough to sell out venues.

[The Tower]

It was, um, her opening song for the whole tour! :wavey:
Yeah, I know, I know.

Alzheimer's.

[gldstwmn]

I sold some naked pics of Rosie O'Donnell to Donald Trump. He was so excited, he played with himself right there in the limo.

FYI... that rat's nest on top of his head isn't the only hair he combs over. Blech.

Perhaps you should direct him to the grooming thread in Chit Chat? :lol:

[gldstwmn]

All this summer and the FL shows, she hit the high Stop Draggin My Heart Around

Do you have an mp3 of this you can post?

[UnwindedDreams]

Curious, how many seats are there?
4,100 seats

[gldstwmn]

It's terrible, but I actually held my class in a chatroom today so we didn't miss too many classes (hey, I gave them Monday off). As such I was stuck online when I should be having a heck of a lot more fun! Believe me, now that class is over, I intend on having some fun... as soon as Kristin and Tiff finish their naps.

What can I say. We're not wild women!

P.S. I'm also holding chat class for my business writing class tomorrow.... which meets at 7:30 am EST.... 4:30 am here. I hope I'm sober enough to type straight. ;)

P.P.S. About my luck in Vegas... and other things....

NO COMMENT.

Good luck! :wavey:

[UnwindedDreams]

Do you have an mp3 of this you can post?
Just look up SDMHA 2006 and you'll see all the ones with Petty...I don't have a FL one...

[gldstwmn]

How can you resurrect something that never went away? :lol:

I believe the key was dropped starting way back on the TISL tour in 2001.

I think you're right about that but I'd actually have to break out a boot (I haven't listened to those shows in a while) to make sure. :o

[gldstwmn]

Wow, I'm getting old.

My memory was telling me that she opened Las Vegas with SDMHA and that's where I noticed the ridiculous key drop.

But, it was TISL. Jeezus, was that really SIX years ago!!!

I know. Time flies. :shocked:

[gldstwmn]

Just look up SDMHA 2006 and you'll see all the ones with Petty...I don't have a FL one...

Those were sung almost a third, if not a third lower just as Towie said.

[UnwindedDreams]

Those were sung almost a third, if not a third lower just as Towie said. I was just saying that she hit the high notes on "STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND" From 2001-2005 she sang STOP...let Sharon and Jana sing STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND...Whoaaa, yeah, yeah! But never mind...:)

[amber]

I felt the need to laugh today, so I think it's time to rename Stevie's song in the Vegas setlist:

New Intro ("Earache My Eye"-Alice Bowie)
Stand Back (Same ol setlist alert)
Goldust Vegas Casino Woman
If Anyone Falls for Me Changing Up the Setlist
Stop Dragging this Song Around In a Different Key
Dreams of a Different Setlist Nightly
Enchanted with the Same ol' Same ol'
Rhiannon (Birds of a Feather Flock Together)
I Need to Know If I Can Do a Different Song
Landslide of the Apparent Hits
Sorcerer Make those Ledgies Gimme their $$$$
Fall From Originality
How Still My Love for the same ol' Setlist
Edge of Seventeen Songs Played on tour since 1983
-------------------------------
(Encore break to change Depends and count how much $$$ I made from the Vegas rubes)
Rock and Roll (Led Zep My Band Aint)
Beauty and the Tired ol' Beast

There, mission accomplished - Yet another thread killed :thumbsup:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fall From Originality and Edge of Seventeen Songs Played on tour since 1983 are my faves. In case you were wondering.

Just saw this.

[ELIUD]

In my opinion, she's never sung SDMHA in the key it was recorded in. Even the Bella Donna concert from HBO showed her singing it at a lower register. I've never like the song live except when I saw her sing it with Tom on his latest tour.

As for Stand Back as an opener, I'm okay with that, that's actually one of the songs I'm most tired of hearing. I'm all for using it to excite everyone at the end and get it the hell over with.

[SortaSavageLike]

Would everyone prefer if her voice went UP one octave every five years? Maybe she'll start inhaling helium and in 2020 she'll put out an album that only dogs can hear...:p

[BTFLCHLD]

4,100 seats thanks :wavey:

[gldstwmn]

Would everyone prefer if her voice went UP one octave every five years? Maybe she'll start inhaling helium and in 2020 she'll put out an album that only dogs can hear...:p

It's time for you to pick up your pizzas and go home! :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Ever since Stevie resurrected SDMHA back in Vegas 2005, she has been singing it in a much lower key. I believe she lowered it by a two whole steps, or even a third- but, I'll have to check on my piano later at home.

She lowered it on TISL - I was horrified by how low it was. Then, she seemingly hits some of the higher notes on other songs. Go figure.

[strandinthewind]

I cannot remember how high she was on the Enchanted tour - err - I mean :eek:

[Nixxxed]

I will never forget one of the TISL shows I went to and many people were horrified and upset that Landslide was not in the set. A few of them were cursing her.

This happened to me also at the Houston TISL show, except person after person I passed while trekking back to the car was bitching that she hadn't performed Silver Springs (after all the pre- and post-Dance drama concerning the song).

I'm hoping the Dreams show and the tour will be two separate entities. Especially when Eye Sack climbs aboard.

Hoping.

[Nixxxed]

Me... I'm so terribly distraught over this setlist business, I'm going to burn all my Stevie albums, break my DVDs, and go on a hunger strike until something changes.

Or until dinner time. Whichever comes first.

I'll go you one better:

Burn the witch!!!!

(as my best friend always says when I start Steviebitching :lol: )

[The Tower]

I cannot remember how high she was on the Enchanted tour - err - I mean :eek:
I just checked stuff out on You Tube.

Enchanted tour was in the original key. However, starting with the first "Baby, you could never look me...." part- she was trying to hit the note and couldn't and then backed off it completely (Sharon was singing the same part behind her).

TISL and Vegas and Tom Petty, etc. ....... the key for the song was dropped a full third- three whole tones- down. :shocked: Yeah, I remember the first time I heard it at the Universal Amphitheatre in SoCal and it was shocking.

[michelle2677]

If Stevie did Alice on this tour, I would shut up permanantly with my complaints. But thats just me.

if stevie added THIS song, then I would start bitching :laugh:



eh...glad i didn't go.

I'm off to find out what's going on with the lindsey show :nod: :thumbsup:

[bikerchic]

I disagree with your assesment of her voice. I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes.

Sure, Stevie sounds "great" on the same old songs that she performs time after time, but why else wouldn't she sing her other hits that we all love and adore, other then for the fact that she can't hit the notes (hence, girl can't sing anymore). And just to clear things up, I TOO, am a fool once more :D

[ontheEdgeof17]

setlist sucks. I went to bed hoping I'd get up and see that something amazing had happened. damnit. well, I surely feel better about not spending $1000 on a trip out there. I've done the Vegas/Stevie show...circa 2005. :cool:

glad everyone had a great time and that Stevie was "feelin'" it. that's awesome. and can't wait to see pics and the new merch.

:nod: agreed.

OTR gone? Foolish!



BTW...We all think Stevie's vocals are "spot on" while we are there, but everytime I watch the bootleg back, her voice seems so tired and uninspired.

[estranged4life]

BTW...We all think Stevie's vocals are "spot on" while we are there, but everytime I watch the bootleg back, her voice seems so tired and uninspired.

a bit tired on the DVD of the Feb.6,2007 Hollywood, FL show.

[Johnny Stew]

Sure, Stevie sounds "great" on the same old songs that she performs time after time, but why else wouldn't she sing her other hits that we all love and adore, other then for the fact that she can't hit the notes (hence, girl can't sing anymore).No offense, but the major flaw in that argument is... if Stevie isn't worried about the fact that she's lowered the key on every other song she sings on stage, why would she worry about lowering it on any of the others? It's not like she's desperately hiding the fact that her voice has changed over the years. All she has to do is open her mouth, and anyone who isn't completely deaf can hear that.
Hell, by that logic, she'd be better off sticking only to songs she's recorded over the past 15 years, since they're already in her lower register and the difference between the live performance and the studio recording wouldn't be so noticeable.

Here's a question for everyone... since the point was made about how low she sings "Stop Draggin'" now... would you rather she sing your favorite rarely-played/never-before-played song in a markedly lower key or not at all?

That's not asked in a snarky way, it's an honest question.

For example, if she sings "Storms" but has to lower it to a range that's not as demanding on her voice night after night, would it still be cool to hear, or would it diminish enjoyment of the song? How about "I Can't Wait" slowed down a little and sung deeper?

[gldstwmn]

No offense, but the major flaw in that argument is... if Stevie isn't worried about the fact that she's lowered the key on every other song she sings on stage, why would she worry about lowering it on any of the others? It's not like she's desperately hiding the fact that her voice has changed over the years. All she has to do is open her mouth, and anyone who isn't completely deaf can hear that.
Hell, by that logic, she'd be better off sticking only to songs she's recorded over the past 15 years, since they're already in her lower register and the difference between the live performance and the studio recording wouldn't be so noticeable.

Here's a question for everyone... since the point was made about how low she sings "Stop Draggin'" now... would you rather she sing your favorite rarely-played/never-before-played song in a markedly lower key or not at all?

That's not asked in a snarky way, it's an honest question.

For example, if she sings "Storms" but has to lower it to a range that's not as demanding on her voice night after night, would it still be cool to hear, or would it diminish enjoyment of the song? How about "I Can't Wait" slowed down a little and sung deeper?

There are songs that she can still sing in the original key. Beautiful Child and BATB are two examples. I think she could still pull off Storms in the original key. There are a whole list of them. She could still sing Bella Donna, Angel and pretty much anything from Street Angel. We can pretty much forget about hearing anything from Rock A Little with the exception of HAEWAFY. She could still sing Desert Angel, I think. So there you go.

[strandinthewind]

I think she can sing way higher than she does now, but she thinks she cannot sustain it. Maybe she can't - who knows. All I know is Circle Dance, R&R, and the stunning BC were all way higher than where sings some of the others. So, she can do it.

[Little Nicki]

if Stevie isn't worried about the fact that she's lowered the key on every other song she sings on stage, why would she worry about lowering it on any of the others?

She doesn't lower the key of hardly anything she does. She just changes the melody by lowering it quite a bit. I know Landslide has been lowered a whole lot and Beautiful Child was one half step down (funny that gldstwmn cited it as one that's in the original key). In fact, I am shocked that she doesn't lower everything even a half step because it would help her immensely. So I think she is worried about lowering keys, probably wanting to preserve the music the way it was and should be.

[kathy1]

does anybody have pictures of the merchandise at the shows?

[The Tower]

I know Landslide has been lowered a whole lot
"Landslide" is still played in its original key of E flat. On the Tusk tour, she raised the key to G, because her voice was so thrashed she couldn't hit the low notes.

and Beautiful Child was one half step down (funny that gldstwmn cited it as one that's in the original key).
"Beautiful Child" was played live in its original key of C.

In fact, I am shocked that she doesn't lower everything even a half step because it would help her immensely. So I think she is worried about lowering keys, probably wanting to preserve the music the way it was and should be.
Changing keys isn't as easy as it sounds (no pun intended). Changing keys to odd intervals can make the song sound completely different, even if it's just a half step. Oddly enough, changing the key of a song by a half step in a lot of cases drastically alters the way the song "sounds".

I think that artists should always avoid changing keys, unless it is for a complete change of the artistic landscape of the song (like when Joni Mitchell reworked her tunes for an orchestra). If one is just changing the key because they can't (or don't want to) sing the higher (or lower) notes, then don't bother.

[Rickypt]

She'll do TTM;)


I wish I had a sliver of your optimism. :laugh: :wavey:

[Little Nicki]

"Landslide" is still played in its original key of E flat. On the Tusk tour, she raised the key to G, because her voice was so thrashed she couldn't hit the low notes.
Ya got me there. I don't actually own the white album, so I was going by old (probably tusk tour!) bootlegs I had heard that were much higher, assuming that was the original key.


"Beautiful Child" was played live in its original key of C.
Incorrect! For all I know she may have done in in C at some point, but on Live in Boston and with the orchestra it was a half step down. Lindsey was playing a guitar that was tuned down, so he was playing what looked like a C chord, but he was fooling you!

Changing keys isn't as easy as it sounds (no pun intended). Changing keys to odd intervals can make the song sound completely different, even if it's just a half step. Oddly enough, changing the key of a song by a half step in a lot of cases drastically alters the way the song "sounds".

I think that artists should always avoid changing keys, unless it is for a complete change of the artistic landscape of the song (like when Joni Mitchell reworked her tunes for an orchestra). If one is just changing the key because they can't (or don't want to) sing the higher (or lower) notes, then don't bother.
Hence my "preserving the music the way it was and should be" comment. Though it's not at all hard to do, it just makes it sound different. Anybody can push the transpose button on a keyboard or tune the guitar down. And since you didn't even notice that Beautiful Child was tuned down, it goes to show it can be done quite successfully!

[ontheEdgeof17]

Well, I wonder how the show went last night?

[The Tower]

Incorrect! For all I know she may have done in in C at some point, but on Live in Boston and with the orchestra it was a half step down. Lindsey was playing a guitar that was tuned down, so he was playing what looked like a C chord, but he was fooling you!
I'm gonna take another listen. If I am wrong, I will admit it! :D


Hence my "preserving the music the way it was and should be" comment. Though it's not at all hard to do, it just makes it sound different. Anybody can push the transpose button on a keyboard or tune the guitar down.
I always hated having to transpose a key where it required tuning down my guitar strings (much prefer capoing).

And since you didn't even notice that Beautiful Child was tuned down, it goes to show it can be done quite successfully!
We shall see, my dear! Sometimes key changes "click" and other times they don't.

[HejiraNYC]

Incorrect! For all I know she may have done in in C at some point, but on Live in Boston and with the orchestra it was a half step down. Lindsey was playing a guitar that was tuned down, so he was playing what looked like a C chord, but he was fooling you!


I suspect that much of the SYW setlist was played a half-step lower. "The Chain" tuning is E-flat (instead of E), so I would imagine that much of the rest of the set was lowered accordingly. However, oddly enough, on the last leg of the tour "Say You Will" was bumped up by at least a whole step, as was "Destiny Rules" on the first leg. Surprisingly, one of the hardest songs to sing, "Don't Stop," was not lowered in key; however, Stevie does take the lower harmony on the "yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone" part of the chorus.

Anyway, after looking at the tour dates, 19 shows in 31 days, I would say this is the most hectic solo touring schedule that Mama has ever been on. And there is that three-nights-in-a-row stretch toward the end. :eek: This leads me to believe that Mama will be holding back a lot more than usual just so that she will have a voice for the next night and the night after that, etc.

[Rickypt]

No offense, but the major flaw in that argument is... if Stevie isn't worried about the fact that she's lowered the key on every other song she sings on stage, why would she worry about lowering it on any of the others? It's not like she's desperately hiding the fact that her voice has changed over the years. All she has to do is open her mouth, and anyone who isn't completely deaf can hear that.
Hell, by that logic, she'd be better off sticking only to songs she's recorded over the past 15 years, since they're already in her lower register and the difference between the live performance and the studio recording wouldn't be so noticeable.

Here's a question for everyone... since the point was made about how low she sings "Stop Draggin'" now... would you rather she sing your favorite rarely-played/never-before-played song in a markedly lower key or not at all?

That's not asked in a snarky way, it's an honest question.

For example, if she sings "Storms" but has to lower it to a range that's not as demanding on her voice night after night, would it still be cool to hear, or would it diminish enjoyment of the song? How about "I Can't Wait" slowed down a little and sung deeper?

Yes, I would rather she sing rarely/never played songs even if she has to totally rework them or even if she butchers them.

[Little Nicki]

"The Chain" tuning is E-flat (instead of E)

Actually it was in D, as it has been since at least 1997.

[Rickypt]

Well, I wonder how the show went last night?

I don't think they're going to tell us because they know we will all erupt in Stevie setlist bashing all over again. :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

There are songs that she can still sing in the original key. Beautiful Child and BATB are two examples. I think she could still pull off Storms in the original key. There are a whole list of them. She could still sing Bella Donna, Angel and pretty much anything from Street Angel. We can pretty much forget about hearing anything from Rock A Little with the exception of HAEWAFY. She could still sing Desert Angel, I think. So there you go.

^^^^^
TRUE DAT!

[sodascouts]

Well, I'll be brave and go ahead and say that the show last night was also great, although I think it wasn't quite as good as Tuesday night vocally. She did dance more, though - a couple additional kicks. She did a very sexy, extended sway/dance during How Still My Love, and I thought Edge of Seventeen last night was even better than the night before. She's got her howl back in full swing, for that and GDW, which delighted the audience.

Gold Dust Woman and Dreams switched places in the setlist. I think it worked well. Dreams is the Mac's biggest hit and, while GDW is also famous, it takes it a bit longer to pick up speed. Having Dreams second after Stand Back keeps the energy up for longer.

[BlackWidow]

I felt the need to laugh today, so I think it's time to rename Stevie's song in the Vegas setlist:

New Intro ("Earache My Eye"-Alice Bowie)
Stand Back (Same ol setlist alert)
Goldust Vegas Casino Woman
If Anyone Falls for Me Changing Up the Setlist
Stop Dragging this Song Around In a Different Key
Dreams of a Different Setlist Nightly
Enchanted with the Same ol' Same ol'
Rhiannon (Birds of a Feather Flock Together)
I Need to Know If I Can Do a Different Song
Landslide of the Apparent Hits
Sorcerer Make those Ledgies Gimme their $$$$
Fall From Originality
How Still My Love for the same ol' Setlist
Edge of Seventeen Songs Played on tour since 1983
-------------------------------
(Encore break to change Depends and count how much $$$ I made from the Vegas rubes)
Rock and Roll (Led Zep My Band Aint)
Beauty and the Tired ol' Beast

There, mission accomplished - Yet another thread killed :thumbsup:

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :xoxo:

[Rickypt]

Well, I'll be brave and go ahead and say that the show last night was also great, although I think it wasn't quite as good as Tuesday night vocally. She did dance more, though - a couple additional kicks. She did a very sexy, extended sway/dance during How Still My Love, and I thought Edge of Seventeen last night was even better than the night before. She's got her howl back in full swing, for that and GDW, which delighted the audience.

Gold Dust Woman and Dreams switched places in the setlist. I think it worked well. Dreams is the Mac's biggest hit and, while GDW is also famous, it takes it a bit longer to pick up speed. Having Dreams second after Stand Back keeps the energy up for longer.

How does the SB opener work? Is there a long percussion intro before she comes on stage?

[BlackWidow]

How does the SB opener work? Is there a long percussion intro before she comes on stage?

A good kick off song..I am STILL in SHOCK she is doing it as an opener!!!
It takes her sooooo long to warm up..I can't imagine any spining at the top of her show..I suspect that is why she did that too.:nod:

[GODDESS6]

Well, I'll be brave and go ahead and say that the show last night was also great, although I think it wasn't quite as good as Tuesday night vocally. She did dance more, though - a couple additional kicks. She did a very sexy, extended sway/dance during How Still My Love, and I thought Edge of Seventeen last night was even better than the night before. She's got her howl back in full swing, for that and GDW, which delighted the audience.

Gold Dust Woman and Dreams switched places in the setlist. I think it worked well. Dreams is the Mac's biggest hit and, while GDW is also famous, it takes it a bit longer to pick up speed. Having Dreams second after Stand Back keeps the energy up for longer.

glad you had fun again nancy & let me welcome you back, i have misssed ya!!!~

[strandinthewind]

Thanks for the post Nancy!!!!!

[Beachwood Mac]

How does the SB opener work? Is there a long percussion intro before she comes on stage?

Not sure about last night but Tuesday's was not as long as the regular Standback intro when it's later in the set. And she does it without her shawl. But she did her twirls with her boots on.

And another added observation from Tuesday. The Stevie look alikes are getting too old to dress like Stevie. WAY TOO OLD! And to the lady Tuesday night with the flowing skirt just like Stevie's... I don't think the back is supposed to be tucked in to your pantyhose showing your ass to everyone behind you. Just a suggestion :lol:

[HejiraNYC]

And to the lady Tuesday night with the flowing skirt just like Stevie's... I don't think the back is supposed to be tucked in to your pantyhose showing your ass to everyone behind you. Just a suggestion :lol:

Sistah, sistah of the Moo-ooh-ooh-ooh-oon! :lol:

[ragandbone]

And another added observation from Tuesday. The Stevie look alikes are getting too old to dress like Stevie. WAY TOO OLD! And to the lady Tuesday night with the flowing skirt just like Stevie's... I don't think the back is supposed to be tucked in to your pantyhose showing your ass to everyone behind you. Just a suggestion :lol:
Aww, sad. But, haven't you ever seen an old gypsy?

[skcin]

Well, I'll be brave and go ahead and say that the show last night was also great, although I think it wasn't quite as good as Tuesday night vocally. She did dance more, though - a couple additional kicks. She did a very sexy, extended sway/dance during How Still My Love, and I thought Edge of Seventeen last night was even better than the night before. She's got her howl back in full swing, for that and GDW, which delighted the audience.

Gold Dust Woman and Dreams switched places in the setlist. I think it worked well. Dreams is the Mac's biggest hit and, while GDW is also famous, it takes it a bit longer to pick up speed. Having Dreams second after Stand Back keeps the energy up for longer.

Of course she changed them. I knew she couldn't do too many shows without Dreams being the second song. :cool:

I keed, I keed! Glad you guys are having a good time. Did you go to the breakfast buffet at Paris again? *swoon*


And another added observation from Tuesday. The Stevie look alikes are getting too old to dress like Stevie. WAY TOO OLD! And to the lady Tuesday night with the flowing skirt just like Stevie's... I don't think the back is supposed to be tucked in to your pantyhose showing your ass to everyone behind you. Just a suggestion :lol:

"Oh no, you cannot tell a gypsy...that her skirt is stuck in her nylons....."

Were you able to see the stiletto in her garter?

[strandinthewind]

. . . Were you able to see the stiletto in her garter?

Along with everything else, that she's hairy?

OMG - that even grossed me out :laugh:

[skcin]

^ You sick (magnificent) bastard. :lol:

[Johnny Stew]

There are songs that she can still sing in the original key. Beautiful Child and BATB are two examples.
She doesn't lower the key of hardly anything she does. She just changes the melody by lowering it quite a bit.
So I think she is worried about lowering keys, probably wanting to preserve the music the way it was and should be.
"Landslide" is still played in its original key of E flat.
"Beautiful Child" was played live in its original key of C.
Changing keys isn't as easy as it sounds (no pun intended). Changing keys to odd intervals can make the song sound completely different, even if it's just a half step.Thanks for the answers, everyone. I have only the SLIGHTEST bit of basic "textbook" musical knowledge. I could never tell you what key a song is in, or in what range someone sings. Much to my chagrin.

I guess the changes I hear are, like Little Nicki said, in the lowering of the melody as opposed to the key.

Yes, I would rather she sing rarely/never played songs even if she has to totally rework them or even if she butchers them.I can understand wanting her to sing different songs even if she has to rework them... it would be fun to hear some of the songs in different arrangements... but the "even if she butchers them" line of thought surprises me.
I mean, is it really better to hear something you've never heard live before, even if it sounds God awful? I just can't imagine that being satisfying in any way.

"Woo-hoo!!! She sang 'Julia'!!! It sounded like Roseanne Barr taking a hard ****, but at least she sang it!!! I'm gonna buy a ticket to tomorrow night's show, too!" ;) ;)

[amber]

Has this thread already said who is filling in for Brett? :confused:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Has this thread already said who is filling in for Brett? :confused:

You mean 'replaced'? ;)

[amber]

You mean 'replaced'? ;)

What do you mean?

[ontheEdgeof17]

What do you mean?

I don't see it as "filling in"....:shrug:

[amber]

I don't see it as "filling in"....:shrug:

I would only say replaced if Brett were never going to play for Stevie again. Is that the case?

[ontheEdgeof17]

I would only say replaced if Brett were never going to play for Stevie again. Is that the case?

I dunno. I don't follow Brett around like most. :laugh:

[amber]

I dunno. I don't follow Brett around like most. :laugh:

Oh. I thought you knew something. Wait, "most"? :confused: :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Oh. I thought you knew something. Wait, "most"? :confused: :laugh:

Well, those with breasts. :)

[amber]

Well, those with breasts. :)

I don't have breasts, and I follow him around. :shrug:














:laugh:

[PenguinHead]

[QUOTE=HejiraNYC;667524]I will never forget one of the TISL shows I went to and many people were horrified and upset that Landslide was not in the set. A few of them were cursing her. I was elated because it meant room for one more TISL song. I was clearly in the minority.:rolleyes:

Forgive me, but people like this are retarded idiots! Granted, we (rightly) bitch and moan over stale set lists (that's another story), but I don't understand why people feel so short-changed. So they go a concert of an artist they presumbably love/like...and then get angry when their favorite song isn't performed? What the fuk? It's one thing to be dissapointed but to get angry is...stupidity.

From experience, I know that if you go to a concert with no expectations you'll usually enjoy yourself. Conversely, go to concert with your own personal hopes, wishes, expectations, and you'll go home disappointed. What happened to the concept of enjoying the show for what it is, rather than what you hope it will be? Thankfully, in some regards, I'm glad for the impending death of hit radio. Without the expectations and constraints of performing mostly songs labeled as "hits," hopefully bands will simply feel free to perform any songs that they deem as "good."

[BTFLCHLD]

I don't have breasts, and I follow him around. :shrug: amber...would it be too much to ask to see that pic again - the one of Brett holding his heart for you?
That is the cutest picture. :wavey:

[BlackWidow]

Not sure about last night but Tuesday's was not as long as the regular Standback intro when it's later in the set. And she does it without her shawl. But she did her twirls with her boots on.

And another added observation from Tuesday. The Stevie look alikes are getting too old to dress like Stevie. WAY TOO OLD! And to the lady Tuesday night with the flowing skirt just like Stevie's... I don't think the back is supposed to be tucked in to your pantyhose showing your ass to everyone behind you. Just a suggestion :lol:

Im DYING!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[amber]

amber...would it be too much to ask to see that pic again - the one of Brett holding his heart for you?
That is the cutest picture. :wavey:

Okay, he wasn't "holding his heart" for me. He was commenting that he's never seen a girl without breasts, and kind of demonstrating...:laugh: :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

:distress: Stevie loves her casual fans more then us die-hards AND girl can't sing anymore. Why else would she not change her setlist? Plus, she probably thinks, these fools keep paying the big bucks for the same setlist, so why should I change it? :shrug:

^^^^^
I totally agree!!!

[Sorceress]

Of course Stevie can still sing. Her voice is different and she's reworked her songs accordingly. I'd rather she hit the new notes than screetch the old ones off-key like Jana does. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I went to Vegas with no expectations of anything different, so the setlist switch up was a pleasant surprise. The violin intro to Gold Dust Woman was gorgeous. I'm still appreciating the "Baby baby baby you can save me now." If Anyone Falls is still basically new to me. Hell, it's even possible for me to appreciate Sorcerer.

The energy level, the boots, the high kicks, the very sexy How Still My Love, all reminded me of why I love will always love Stevie. When she is on, she is ON, and there is no one like her. It's easy to see why people would be disappointed that there aren't new songs. It's harder to convey the joy of actually being in her presence when she is smiling, feeling good, moving and downright enjoying herself. Tuesday was that experience for me. I hope that everyone who is disappointed, disgusted, disgruntled gets to experience the same kind of renewal of Stevie-love that I did. I think that being a fan now means appreciating who Stevie is NOW.

To answer a few random questions that I think haven't been addressed yet:
--Scott Plunkett is filling in for Brett
--Yes, we did go to Paris for the breakfast buffet. It was still good, but not as fabulous as I remember
--and NO ONE pissed in Nancy's cheerios, as I actually witnessed what she'd had for breakfast that day. Not a toasted oat morsel on the menu. :laugh:

[Rickypt]

I think that being a fan now means appreciating who Stevie is NOW.


No one can define what it means to be a fan and no one can set the standard for others. I can legitimately call myself a Stevie fan and be completely turned off by her set list and her current lack of originality and creativity.

That said...it's great that she was in fine form and that you enjoyed the show. I thoroughly enjoyed her in December even though the setlist sucked. So I 'get it'....

[amber]

Of course Stevie can still sing. Her voice is different and she's reworked her songs accordingly. I'd rather she hit the new notes than screetch the old ones off-key like Jana does. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I went to Vegas with no expectations of anything different, so the setlist switch up was a pleasant surprise. The violin intro to Gold Dust Woman was gorgeous. I'm still appreciating the "Baby baby baby you can save me now." If Anyone Falls is still basically new to me. Hell, it's even possible for me to appreciate Sorcerer.

The energy level, the boots, the high kicks, the very sexy How Still My Love, all reminded me of why I love will always love Stevie. When she is on, she is ON, and there is no one like her. It's easy to see why people would be disappointed that there aren't new songs. It's harder to convey the joy of actually being in her presence when she is smiling, feeling good, moving and downright enjoying herself. Tuesday was that experience for me. I hope that everyone who is disappointed, disgusted, disgruntled gets to experience the same kind of renewal of Stevie-love that I did. I think that being a fan now means appreciating who Stevie is NOW.

To answer a few random questions that I think haven't been addressed yet:
--Scott Plunkett is filling in for Brett
--Yes, we did go to Paris for the breakfast buffet. It was still good, but not as fabulous as I remember
--and NO ONE pissed in Nancy's cheerios, as I actually witnessed what she'd had for breakfast that day. Not a toasted oat morsel on the menu. :laugh:

Yeah, that's really cool, I'm sorry I'm missing it. In my head, in theory, I get "disappointed" with her setlists, but then when I'm there in front of her I'm always excited out of my mind, and enthralled, and in love. Except during Dreams/OTR. :laugh: So I'll always go see Miss Thing if I can. :nod:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Except during Dreams/OTR. :laugh:

I swear I'm the only one who loves OTR/DREAMS. :laugh: ....and she dropped OTR??!?!?! That hurts my everything......

[amber]

I swear I'm the only one who loves OTR/DREAMS. :laugh: ....and she dropped OTR??!?!?! That hurts my everything......

Where as the pain in my everything just went away. OTR is my very most least favorite, even more than Dreams.

Sorry, though, Curtie, since you like it. :xoxo: Hey, Curtie, you should see if Storm is playing by you in Canada. She said she's going up there, now. She is so good you will die.

DIE!!!