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markolas
03-18-2007, 11:41 AM
Why do I hear so many people blathering on and on about how they loved high school and wish they could relive it?

I remember being in high school and saying how much I wanted it to be over, and everyone telling me how much I would miss it and how it would never be the same, and I would wish I could go back to living with my parents, etc.

Well, guess what? It's 10 years later, and I have never missed it for a day. In fact, I look back and think that it really is a miracle that I made it through the first 20 years of my life without slitting my wrists. My hometown is one of the most racist, homophobic places I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing and if I ever make another trip there, it'll be too soon. My opinion of my family, teachers, and other students has not improved, either.

So are people who say they loved high school and living with their parents lying, retarded, on crack, or what? :shrug:

ontheEdgeof17
03-18-2007, 11:51 AM
I absolutely have no intention to ever attend a high school reunion, or relive the experience. When I go home to visit my parents, I hide and duck around public places so none of my former classmates will see me and try to attempt to get back in touch. I talk to one person from high school and that's it. It's a period in my life that did what it was suppose to do....I'm not stuck in it like some people I know.

DrummerDeanna
03-18-2007, 11:54 AM
I don't think you're in the minority at all. I know more people who hated high school than didn't. I fall somewhere in the middle.

I had a great time, but was so lucky to go to the school I went to at the time I did. There were so many gay kids at each of the three schools in my town - at night and on weekends we'd all hang out at a local coffee shop...and I had band, yes, I was a complete band geek.

Now would I go back and do it again? No. No. and NO.

But I will be going to (and possibly planning) my ten year reunion - which is next year :o

strandinthewind
03-18-2007, 11:54 AM
I loved my high school years.

I went to a Catholic school with about 120 in my class.

I played football.

I was in the band for about two years and was first chair trumpet.

I was in the math club because I played chess at the tournaments.

I had a great group of friends, most of which I still have.

Sure, there was hard times that I think anyone goes through. But, the good if not great times far outweighed those. Also, I am the kind of person who sees the bright side of most things and am not afraid to assert myself when someone messes with me. I remember being a freshman and taking on the bigwig senior football playes when one of them asked me if I wanted to open a florist shop when I graduated. I wasted no time in performing a verbal autopsy on him and after that, we were as friendly as a senior and a freshman can be :laugh:

I had my 20 year (OUCH!!!!) reunion two Novembers ago and it was a blast.

I am sorry so many people lost out on those years.

I am sorry many did not like it.

markolas
03-18-2007, 11:57 AM
I absolutely have no intention to ever attend a high school reunion, or relive the experience.

Yeah, that's kinda what set off this little rant. I discovered that there is a MySpace group devoted to my high school's class of '97 reunion. Why would I want to see any of these people ever again? :mad:

It's a period in my life that did what it was suppose to do....

Completely rob you of any semblance of self-esteem and self-confidence, which you spent the next 10 years trying to recover? :laugh:

strandinthewind
03-18-2007, 12:01 PM
. . . It's a period in my life that did what it was suppose to do . . . .

Isn't that the right thing to do? I mean would you be where you are today if you had not done the things a kid was supposed to do? Other than parents who are jerks, kids should listen to them :shrug:

Of course, I grew up in the era of films like "Pretty in Pink," "Sixteen Candles," Breakfast Club," etc. -- which was great. Of course, I related to every character in the BC :laugh:

markolas
03-18-2007, 12:08 PM
I had a great time, but was so lucky to go to the school I went to at the time I did. There were so many gay kids at each of the three schools in my town - at night and on weekends we'd all hang out at a local coffee shop...and I had band, yes, I was a complete band geek.

You're lucky. It was only years later that I found out I had gone to school with any other gay kids at all. And it was some of the very kids who used to call me names and harrass me that turned out to be bigger queens than I ever thought about being. :rolleyes:

Isn't that the right thing to do? I mean would you be where you are today if you had not done the things a kid was supposed to do? Other than parents who are jerks, kids should listen to them :shrug:

Oh, god, don't get my started on my parents. Especially my mother. I think she's starting to finally get the message that I don't really want anything to do with her. :laugh:

Of course, I grew up in the era of films like "Pretty in Pink," "Sixteen Candles," Breakfast Club," etc. -- which was great. Of course, I related to every character in the BC :laugh:

Me in high school= Ally Sheedy's character in The Breakfast Club. :nod:

BlackWidow
03-18-2007, 12:12 PM
I don't think you're in the minority at all. I know more people who hated high school than didn't. I fall somewhere in the middle.

I had a great time, but was so lucky to go to the school I went to at the time I did. There were so many gay kids at each of the three schools in my town - at night and on weekends we'd all hang out at a local coffee shop...and I had band, yes, I was a complete band geek.

Now would I go back and do it again? No. No. and NO.

But I will be going to (and possibly planning) my ten year reunion - which is next year :o

Love the PIC!!!:nod:

DrummerDeanna
03-18-2007, 12:22 PM
You're lucky. It was only years later that I found out I had gone to school with any other gay kids at all. And it was some of the very kids who used to call me names and harrass me that turned out to be bigger queens than I ever thought about being. :rolleyes:



I was lucky, and I totally realize that. It's not like that anymore from what I hear. And there was the share of assholes, some of whom are now gay. But all in all high school really did help shape who I am today. I still keep in touch with some good friends from that time, but I'm so glad that I've grown and moved on.

bretonbanquet
03-18-2007, 12:32 PM
So are people who say they loved high school and living with their parents lying, retarded, on crack, or what? :shrug:

That could be kinda insulting... maybe their lives are just different :shrug:

JazmenFlowers
03-18-2007, 12:39 PM
I hated and loved my high school years all at the same time. I was very popular and involved...I was on homecoming court almost every year...always voted best dressed or most popular or some **** like that, but I secretly hated most of the people I knew. there were 4 or 5 that I really liked and cared about. but I also was dying to get out of a town with a population of 2000. no one else cared and they're all still there. I don't go home really either. at least not to where I went to high school. I don't really talk to any of them and don't really want to. they're just not in the same place I am. I had the occasional taunting, but I don't think anyone can escape that completely.

my 10 yr class reunion I guess is supposed to be in May. I haven't heard anything about one and don't plan to go to it anyway. sit and stare at the pastures and cotton fields and listen to everyone rave about their 10 yr old kids? yeah, I can think of better ways to waste a Saturday night.

jannieC
03-18-2007, 01:02 PM
I actually hated high school (the school part), but I have very happy memories of the time itself. I was popular, but not in that annoying cheerleader way. I just hung with a cool crowd and my parents were cool enough to let me have massive keg parties on the week-ends. I was actually pretty devasted to have missed my 20th reunion last year. For me, those years bring back memories of a time when my family was together. My father was still alive (he died when I was 17) and my brother, sister, and I were all a part of each other's lives.

I can understand though how some people would have painful memories of high school and not want to go back. My memories are painful in a nostalgic way- does that make sense?

estranged4life
03-18-2007, 01:36 PM
anything related to my high school years. So what I had a 3.4 GPA, I still felt like I was a prisoner in one of those cheesy ass 80's high school dating movies.

I made my Mom mad at me when I took my yearbook and torched it in the sink - even I after I told her I wouldnt (Like she was surprised in the first place)

I refused to attend the graduation ceremony because all it was was a jocularity contest for the rich kids to show off what their parents wasted $$$$ for 'em to receive as a graduation present (I made that mental note a year earlier when my cousin Wendy graduated) - So I refused to play that part and have NO REGRETS about me choice (Why walk a stage for a empty folder in the first place? The students had to pick up their diploma the next day anyways, so I was at the office at 6:45AM sharp, picked up my diploma & told the office staff to "f**k off" and left.)

I gave my cap & gown away to a fellow student whose family was also not in the higher financial bracket at my excuse for a high school/popularity contest.

I remember watching the punks/gays/nerds get the living **** beat of 'em by the jocks - and of course the teachers would turn a blind eye to it - That's just f**kin wrong!!!

I have received class reunion invites in the past (Next year I should get one for 20 years - B.F.D. ) and once I sent a reply that I would only attend if there was ample parking for my "Ryder Truck Bomb".

Sentimental? Not me, I would love to see that place in flames!!! Along with all the popularity assholes trapped inside with all exits blocked and/or boobie-trapped!!!

sparky
03-18-2007, 02:39 PM
There were moments of struggle in high school for me. Freshman year was tough. Some people picked on me a little at first, but I got mad and got even pretty quickly. I was kind of a dork, in total shutdown mode, and had recently "broken up" with my best friend from 7th and 8th grade. However, it all got way better at the end of that year and the next year. I fell in with the drama freaks and started performing. Plus ran track for awhile. The other actor freaks provided a great refuge and I met some other people who played guitar and wrote songs so we would hang out and play onstage after school when there wasn't some play rehearsal going on. It culminated in a freakish senior year when it become hip to act and a number of jocks and popular girls decided they had to be in West Side Story. Heh, then they were on my turf and it was a fantastic turn of the tables. Tons of parties, drinking, cocaine, nights at the park, staying out till dawn. There wasn't that whole money competition going on. People I had been intimidated by because of their looks and popularity mostly revealed themselves to be decent and just as scared in their own ways as everyone else. Quite a lesson for all of us. There was a charmed element to it. There is a certain low grade of terror that comes with ending that period and moving on that can make people bond. For us, I think we all felt accepted for exactly who we were, and truly appreciated for our differences. It was fantastic. We all knew it. I have to say it was a good group. I remember that the lot of us were absolutely electrified by it and were completely conscious of the fact that it was a golden moment in time that would never happen again. The bawling and hugging and promises of our grad party were epic. And good god, it was a sexy and sex filled time. Booze and youth and horny 18 year old jocks - how can you go wrong with that? :thumbsup: Well, I guess you could in myriad ways. I didn't, though.

The 10 year reunion was fun - not great, but fun. The 20, which was a couple years ago was a true riot. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Not because it was the most memorable night of my life. It was just a good benchmark lifewise. I enjoyed seeing what people had done. What choices they had made and how that contrasted with who they were 20 years ago or totally contradicted who they used it be. It was fascinating, and at the same time melancholic. The city is different. I am different. In fact, the Sunday I was waiting for my plane, the drive around my old neighborhood was almost enough to make me vomit. At one moment I had to park as I cruised around the old hood and past the high school. I still can't explain the feeling I had but it was as close to a panic attack as I have ever been. That part wasn't fun. But I am glad I did it. I know it was an important experience to have had. I can't say I necessarily grew as a person from it, or became better or stronger. But in hindsight I did learn from it. It gave me a sense of who I used to be and who I was that very day. Ultimately it gave gravity to my life. It lended the journey of the last 20 years a concrete, can't deny it kind of reality. The perspective it gave me was priceless. What happened after those years came into relief and made so much sense. Its rare to be able to sit and look back and understand why one's life became what it is. Knowing that can be extremely powerful. I think it might give us the abilitiy to steer the remaining years with more clarity and purpose.

High school was hardly the pinnacle of my life. I know it is for some people. For others, it is also the absolute low point. Either way, I don't think for anyone that the experience was without meaning. Its just up to us to figure out what that meaning is and to use it to our advantage. As they say, the unexamined life is not worth living.

HomerMcvie
03-18-2007, 02:41 PM
^^^Whew, all that anger.(edit- dammit fast fingers Sparky.....I meant Brian's post).

Anyway, I had a ball in high school. Best.time.of.my.life. I'd go back and redo it in a heartbeat!
Friends. Parties. Fast cars. Fleetwood Mac.
Did I say best.time.of.my.life? Seriously.:nod:

sparky
03-18-2007, 02:50 PM
fast fingers Sparky

If ever I needed another nickname....

:laugh:

ryan8472
03-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Ha! I was only in high school last year! And I hated it too. I think when the time comes around, me and the 5 or 6 people I cared about there will have our own reunion party. :p :nod:

amber
03-18-2007, 03:13 PM
So are people who say they loved high school and living with their parents lying, retarded, on crack, or what? :shrug:

I didn't like living with my parents. But the thing I liked about highschool was not so much the people and whatnot, it was getting to do/learn lots of different things in a day and not having to work. Well, I had a little job, but you know what I mean. :laugh:
Now, my days are filled with one or two boring things for the most part, rather than 7 mostly interesting things. In highschool I had drama class and choir class and then drama or choir rehearsals, then also a sport to practice after school and games to go to, and then drama and choir performances to do in front of people. Or band, when younger.
And of course a different subject every hour.
You can probably see how that particular quality of highschool would be more interesting. I mean, maybe if I didn't have drama/choir/sports practices, and get to perform in front of people all the time with those, I wouldn't have liked it as much. It's fun if people watch you do stuff you are good at all the time. hee.

That's about it, though. If my life was like that now, I would think my life was just as fun. :laugh: But no, it's mostly the same boring **** all day every day. Doing something different every hour is perfect for my temperament and brain.
I had some friends, and one best friend. People didn't really make fun of me or anything, to my face. I was voted most funny my senior year. But like I says, I don't really miss the social aspect. Not at all. Me and my friends didn't do drugs or drink. Well, me and my best friend did acid a few times, but otherwise, no. We would ditch to go to the river, or watch twin peaks, or just drive around. Very wholesome ****. hehehehe.

I would go to a reunion of the first highschool I attended, because those are the kids I knew my whole life growing up. Unfortunately, I graduated from a different highschool who's reunions I would not care about at all, and who I didn't know that many people. Most of the ones I like, I'm still friends with. Although switching to that highschool was really, really good for me because I had just broken up with my friends at the other highschool. And also, at my old highschool drama and choir kids were geeks, but at my new highschool they weren't, so I got into those things instead of just sports.

irishgrl
03-18-2007, 03:47 PM
Dee, I just noticed that your glasses and Lilly Tomlin's glasses are very similar!
I know, totally OT.........who cares!

as for High School, I couldnt WAIT to get away, I had no use for the people I went to school with and never have and never will attend any reunions. At this point, so much time has gone by (I graduated in the mid 70's) that I've forgotten them all anyway.....

thats not to say I didnt have good times during those years, because I did, it was just with people from other schools or from my neighborhood who didnt attend my High school....actually, I think I was pretty lucky to have been a teenager in the 70's, times were pretty kick-back then, nothing as anal as what you young people have to deal with LOL!

Miss Vicky
03-18-2007, 03:54 PM
Nope, don't miss those years at all. Four years of having one half of the school thinking I was a gothic-devil-worshipping-lesbian and the other thinking I was a slut who was banging every male friend I ever had (including the gay ones) were quite enough for me.

ontheEdgeof17
03-18-2007, 03:56 PM
^Well, which one were you? :laugh:

Miss Vicky
03-18-2007, 03:59 PM
^Well, which one were you? :laugh:

I was the virginal-bisexual-agnostic who happened to wear a lot of black t-shirts and who was neither dating nor banging any of her friends. :laugh:

markolas
03-18-2007, 04:06 PM
I was kind of a dork, in total shutdown mode

Yeah, that was me, pretty much all through school.

My high school did not have a drama dept. There really wasn't much of an arts crowd at all. The art classes that were offered were very small, and it was mostly treated as a "blow-off" class. Everyone (except for one or two) hated the art teacher because she actually tried to teach art, which they couldn't care less about. I mean, this was the South. You either played football, were a cheerleader, or nobody knew your name.

High school was hardly the pinnacle of my life. I know it is for some people. For others, it is also the absolute low point. Either way, I don't think for anyone that the experience was without meaning. Its just up to us to figure out what that meaning is and to use it to our advantage. As they say, the unexamined life is not worth living.

It was certainly the low point for me, and I have no idea what it's meaning was, other than to show me that I really did not belong in the family or regional culture that I was born into.

I didn't like living with my parents. But the thing I liked about highschool was not so much the people and whatnot, it was getting to do/learn lots of different things in a day and not having to work. Well, I had a little job, but you know what I mean. :laugh:

Well, that's another thing. I probably could've quit school in the 6th grade, and I'd still be about as intelligent as I am now, since I was mostly self-educated after that. It was really a ****ty school system I grew up in. My high school biology teacher, for instance, decided to not teach us about evolution because, in her words, "it's such a touchy subject." I lost all heart in school after that - I mean, the teachers were more concerned with offending their fragile little Christian sensibilities than with doing their fukcing jobs. I had no role models growing up. Only people who showed me how I *didn't* want to be.

Johnny Stew
03-18-2007, 04:06 PM
I was told any number of times, "these are the best years of your life" and "you're going to miss being in high school."
I knew better though, and not even for one second in the past 17 years have I ever missed high school.

I skipped my 10th reunion, and I'm sure I'll pass on my 20th, too.
Most of the few people I was friends with, I'm still in touch with -- and I have no desire to see any of the rest. So there's no need to attend class reunions.

CelticGypsy
03-18-2007, 04:09 PM
I loved high school. Of course, I went back during the times we had classes in caves:lol: No, it was 1972-1976 and I miss high school because it was alot of fun. If you are active in alot of school clubs and sport and usually best if you lived in one place as a kid so you would know most of the kids in your high school is best.

Unfortunately, my kids had to move around alot growing up and my girls made friends much easier than my son. He still has problems making friends and I think alot of young men are this way. Girls seem to have an easier time and need those friendships in their lives. Boys need them too but sometimes not willing to take the time to form relationships.

If you are friendly to everyone, then you will have an easier time. I was pretty shy but still managed to have about 10 good friends that remained in my life up through my 20's and about four of them are still good friends today and I just recently turned 50. I see alot of kids in school today that are so busy with their cell phones that they don't actually talk face to face with people anymore. Unfortunately, the Internet and cell phones and other gadgets make personal relationships less personal today.

amber
03-18-2007, 04:10 PM
Well, that's another thing. I probably could've quit school in the 6th grade, and I'd still be about as intelligent as I am now, since I was mostly self-educated after that. It was really a ****ty school system I grew up in. My high school biology teacher, for instance, decided to not teach us about evolution because, in her words, "it's such a touchy subject." I lost all heart in school after that - I mean, the teachers were more concerned with offending their fragile little Christian sensibilities than with doing their fukcing jobs. I had no role models growing up. Only people who showed me how I *didn't* want to be.

:shocked:
Oh, that sucks. I was in a very good school system. In fact, it sounds like your school sucked in general. That is too bad, because highschool can be fun. Or at least informative. :laugh:

Hmm...this one time me and my friend wanted to do a short play that intimated an affair. Well, said there was an affair, and there was a bit of a problem with that, but in the end, we got to do it.

Johnny Stew
03-18-2007, 04:13 PM
I should add that I've sometimes thought that if I had the attitude I have now, back then, I might have actually liked high school.
I put up with a lot of **** and kept my mouth shut through a lot of harrassment and abuse. But nowadays, I have a big mouth and I don't take **** from anyone. :thumbsup:

JazmenFlowers
03-18-2007, 04:14 PM
Yeah, that was me, pretty much all through school.
you and I are so much alike. the South sure is something. especially the deep, Delta South.

I was different only in the respect that even though I wasn't a footballer or cheerleader (crazy, right? :) ) I was still part of the "in-crowd" and had lots of friends and all that. it still didn't make high school anything I really care to remember. I was a total bitch to poor people and people that didn't "fit in" and I do regret that. I often wonder what happend to Jerry R. or Pam N. - do they sit and think of the hateful things I did? I hope not.

I tutored a couple black footballers and after one lesson, they said "now blow me" or something to that effect. I got the tongue through the fingers action a lot in the hall. and a lot of shouting from school buses. even though I was popular. so, I wasn't exempt. I still see those faces of the kids that did that to me and I loathe them. to this day. but, then I turned around and did the same thing to some kids. karma's a bitch. but, I've changed. or at least, I'm trying to change. :P

markolas
03-18-2007, 04:15 PM
I was told any number of times, "these are the best years of your life" and "you're going to miss being in high school."


I was told the same thing, over and over. I feel sorry for those people. I mean, *those* were the best years of my life, even though I'll probably live another *70* years?? :eek:

carrie721
03-18-2007, 04:18 PM
It was certainly the low point for me, and I have no idea what it's meaning was, other than to show me that I really did not belong in the family or regional culture that I was born into.

i think that is meaning enough. isn't it a blessing that you figured out that in order to be happy, you had to move somewhere else? i mean, you could have just stayed there and killed yourself. :shrug:

amber
03-18-2007, 04:19 PM
you and I are so much alike. the South sure is something. especially the deep, Delta South.

I was different only in the respect that even though I wasn't a footballer or cheerleader (crazy, right? :) ) I was still part of the "in-crowd" and had lots of friends and all that. it still didn't make high school anything I really care to remember. I was a total bitch to poor people and people that didn't "fit in" and I do regret that. I often wonder what happend to Jerry R. or Pam N. - do they sit and think of the hateful things I did? I hope not.

I tutored a couple black footballers and after one lesson, they said "now blow me" or something to that effect. I got the tongue through the fingers action a lot in the hall. and a lot of shouting from school buses. even though I was popular. so, I wasn't exempt. I still see those faces of the kids that did that to me and I loathe them. to this day. but, then I turned around and did the same thing to some kids. karma's a bitch. but, I've changed. or at least, I'm trying to change. :P

Oh, the gay kid making fun of the poor kids. Neat. :rolleyes: I should've suspected what with your making fun of people's clothes thing when you were here. God, I would've so ripped you a new one. I would have made fun of your low level of coordination, by the looks of it. And when we were little, I would've thrown the ball at you really hard during dodge ball and kick ball. I would have smacked you in the face, and you would have cried. Mwahahahaha!!!
Poor kids are scrappy, you know. They don't have toys, so they play outside all the time and hone their muscly quickness, and become mean. :lol:
:xoxo: :wavey:

JazmenFlowers
03-18-2007, 04:20 PM
i think that is meaning enough. isn't it a blessing that you figured out that in order to be happy, you had to move somewhere else? i mean, you could have just stayed there and killed yourself. :shrug:
oh snap. that's awesome. and totally true.

why don't we have our own Sirius radio show already? :shrug:

carrie721
03-18-2007, 04:22 PM
oh snap. that's awesome. and totally true.

why don't we have our own Sirius radio show already? :shrug:

word.

:xoxo:

JazmenFlowers
03-18-2007, 04:23 PM
Oh, the gay kid making fun of the poor kids. Neat. :rolleyes: I should've suspected what with your making fun of people's clothes thing when you were here. God, I would've so ripped you a new one. I would have made fun of your low level of coordination, by the looks of it. And when we were little, I would've thrown the ball at you really hard during dodge ball and kick ball. Poor kids are scrappy, you know. They don't have toys, so they play outside all the time and hone their muscly quickness. :lol:
:xoxo: :wavey:
will I never live down the mop/sidewalk fiasco? :mad: :lol:

I know. it's terrible and I've repented. I give to Goodwill all the time. :shrug: :D

speaking of those games...we had one called deer. one person on either side of a sidewalk and a third, the "deer", runs down the sidewalk while the other two throw a baseball. I can't tell you the bruises I had. so, I got my share. don't worry. why was I always picked as the deer? oh, right...mop/sidewalk fiasco...

amber
03-18-2007, 04:27 PM
will I never live down the mop/sidewalk fiasco? :mad: :lol:

I know. it's terrible and I've repented. I give to Goodwill all the time. :shrug: :D

speaking of those games...we had one called deer. one person on either side of a sidewalk and a third, the "deer", runs down the sidewalk while the other two throw a baseball. I can't tell you the bruises I had. so, I got my share. don't worry. why was I always picked as the deer? oh, right...mop/sidewalk fiasco...

Dude, you missed the mop.

If you have truly repented, you wouldn't make fun of people's clothes. It must be the gay blood in you. :laugh:

Deer? That's pretty brutal, baseballs are just like bigger rocks. I can't believe you played that. That is just an excuse to throw rocks at someone, really. We only did that when we got in fights. Why would you even play that? Did you guys not have mitts? Or just didn't know how to use them? :lol:
They should have picked you as a thrower, I would think you could run okay, but probably not throw for ****. :laugh:
Okay, I'll stop now. I was a bit of a bully in my young years...until just now....

markolas
03-18-2007, 04:29 PM
you and I are so much alike. the South sure is something. especially the deep, Delta South.

I can't remember if I ever asked you if you've been to Shreveport. I seem to remember strandinthewind saying he had, and he kind of backed up my opinion that it's awful. :laugh:

i think that is meaning enough. isn't it a blessing that you figured out that in order to be happy, you had to move somewhere else? i mean, you could have just stayed there and killed yourself. :shrug:

It is, and I probably would've killed myself if I had stayed there another six months. Have I ever told the story of how I left? :laugh:

JazmenFlowers
03-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Dude, you missed the mop.
lmfao. oh, to have video of that!
If you have truly repented, you wouldn't make fun of people's clothes. It must be the gay blood in you. :laugh:
it was/is more critiquing. :lol:
Deer? That's pretty brutal, baseballs are just like bigger rocks. I can't believe you played that. That is just an excuse to throw rocks at someone, really. We only did that when we got in fights. Why would you even play that? Did you guys not have mitts? Or just didn't know how to use them? :lol:
They should have picked you as a thrower, I would think you could run okay, but probably not throw for ****. :laugh:
Okay, I'll stop now. I was a bit of a bully in my young years...until just now....
actually, I can't do either very well. :D
I can't remember if I ever asked you if you've been to Shreveport. I seem to remember strandinthewind saying he had, and he kind of backed up my opinion that it's awful.
nope, never been, but I believe you. lol.

michelle2677
03-18-2007, 04:48 PM
I hated high school. I had my 10 year reunion :eek: last june and i didn't go. Why would I? :shrug: I see everyone I care to see.

high school is so small, and you don't realize that until you get out of it. Everyone and their little cliques, and I never really fit in. I had friends, don't get me wrong, but I never really opened up until after I graduated. I was also in band :laugh: so that didn't help :rolleyes: although I have to say, I miss being in band :o ...and band camp :laugh:

high school HAS to be hard. NOw, I just go to work, and come home. Then, I went to high school, studied, ALSO went to work. It's double duty. I hated it. I also hated college. But you didn't ask about that ;)

basically anything that requires me to study and interferes with my sleeping ritual, I ain't down with :nod:

amber
03-18-2007, 04:49 PM
actually, I can't do either very well. :D


Aww, little girlfriend...:xoxo: :p Luckily your job doesn't require either. :shrug:

JazmenFlowers
03-18-2007, 04:52 PM
Aww, little girlfriend...:xoxo: :p Luckily your job doesn't require either. :shrug:
:lol:

you ain't nevah lied.

"dude, you missed the mop"

I want that on my tombstone.

DrummerDeanna
03-18-2007, 04:54 PM
I hated high school. I had my 10 year reunion :eek: last june and i didn't go. Why would I? :shrug: I see everyone I care to see.

high school is so small, and you don't realize that until you get out of it. Everyone and their little cliques, and I never really fit in. I had friends, don't get me wrong, but I never really opened up until after I graduated. I was also in band :laugh: so that didn't help :rolleyes: although I have to say, I miss being in band :o ...and band camp :laugh:

high school HAS to be hard. NOw, I just go to work, and come home. Then, I went to high school, studied, ALSO went to work. It's double duty. I hated it. I also hated college. But you didn't ask about that ;)

basically anything that requires me to study and interferes with my sleeping ritual, I ain't down with :nod:

YOu were in band?? What did you play??


See...I was a cool kid in the band, I was on the drumline! ha..that got a gal a lot of clout in high school :rolleyes:

And Carrie, don't you dare get a show on Sirius - it has to be on public radio :p

ontheEdgeof17
03-18-2007, 04:56 PM
Man, I'm young. I have yet to have my 10 year Reunion. That's not until 2010. :angel:

carrie721
03-18-2007, 04:57 PM
See...I was a cool kid in the band, I was on the drumline! ha..that got a gal a lot of clout in high school :rolleyes:

i was on the drumline too! i played snare. look out, bitches.

oh, and it sucked. i was placed on snare as a freshman, which was prestigious, but being a 14 year old girl on a squad with 4 18 year old guys? that sucked. :laugh: i never want to hear about anyone's itchy balls ever again. ever.

And Carrie, don't you dare get a show on Sirius - it has to be on public radio :p

but can npr handle me and jaz? i think we might get fined. :laugh:

michelle2677
03-18-2007, 05:00 PM
YOu were in band?? What did you play??



yup :laugh: I played the flute. no american pie jokes please.



her name was michelle, and my mom got me a t-shirt that said "and this one time...at band camp" :lol:

DrummerDeanna
03-18-2007, 05:04 PM
i was on the drumline too! i played snare. look out, bitches.

oh, and it sucked. i was placed on snare as a freshman, which was prestigious, but being a 14 year old girl on a squad with 4 18 year old guys? that sucked. :laugh: i never want to hear about anyone's itchy balls ever again. ever.



but can npr handle me and jaz? i think we might get fined. :laugh:

I was also placed on the snare line as a freshman! And that was like the first time that had happened for a girl at my school :D Luckily though there was a good mix of male and female...no itchy balls talk. Though the dude I stood next to smelled like a combo of B.O., cigarettes, bad cologne and pot.

Gawd I loved snare...I miss it.



yup I played the flute. no american pie jokes please.

Well, you yourself brought up band camp ;)

amber
03-18-2007, 05:09 PM
yup :laugh: I played the flute. no american pie jokes please.



her name was michelle, and my mom got me a t-shirt that said "and this one time...at band camp" :lol:

:laugh: :laugh:

I played flute, too. And alto sax, as you know, the fingerings are the same. Alto sax was better, and while I was like, 4th chair flute, I could be first chair alto sax. :cool: :p

"dude, you missed the mop"

I want that on my tombstone.
:lol: :lol:

michelle2677
03-18-2007, 05:15 PM
Well, you yourself brought up band camp ;)



:laugh: nice...very nice. thanks



:laugh: :laugh:

I played flute, too. And alto sax, as you know, the fingerings are the same. Alto sax was better, and while I was like, 4th chair flute, I could be first chair alto sax. :cool: :p



lol I was first chair flute for a little while. I doubt I could play a b flat scale right now if my life depended on it :laugh: I haven't picked it up since graduation night :distress:

and i could never play a reed instrument. it grosses me out :laugh: I had a clarinet friend, I would see her sucking her spit back up and I almost vomitted :shocked:

amber
03-18-2007, 05:19 PM
:laugh: nice...very nice. thanks





lol I was first chair flute for a little while. I doubt I could play a b flat scale right now if my life depended on it :laugh: I haven't picked it up since graduation night :distress:

and i could never play a reed instrument. it grosses me out :laugh: I had a clarinet friend, I would see her sucking her spit back up and I almost vomitted :shocked:

Ohhh. I always asked to play my friend's clarinet, I loved it. That is really gross, actually. I don't think we sucked our spit back up, we just emptied the valve.
:laugh:
I'm not one of those freaky germ people like you and Paula.

estranged4life
03-18-2007, 05:19 PM
^^^Whew, all that anger.(edit- dammit fast fingers Sparky.....I meant Brian's post).


I was angry at all that social class BS, but then again that was the mentality of the whole town (I remember when CBS' "48 Hours" did a story on the high murder rate in my hometown, which was higher than Washington DC & Compton, CA in the 90's - Still the highest in this state.). Muskogee has and will always be a racially and economically divided city - I saw that aspect since all my school friends were either black and/or poor.

My older brothers have the same exact opinion on that hell-hole of a school that I have - Geary was able to transfer out & graduated from El Reno while Bill simply dropped out.

Deb's former high school is directly across the highway from our house - She received another yearly reunion invite (This town has 1 reunion party for all grads - Bogus!!!) and again wont be paying $25 to meet up with people she attended school with, who WONT talk to her even when she sees them in town.

michelle2677
03-18-2007, 05:22 PM
Ohhh. I always asked to play my friend's clarinet, I loved it. That is really gross, actually. I don't think we sucked our spit back up, we just emptied the valve.
:laugh:
I'm not one of those freaky germ people like you and Paula.

HEY!! i know a few other germ-o-phobes on here :laugh: do i really need to start a thread??? :wavey: :laugh:

HomerMcvie
03-18-2007, 05:30 PM
high school HAS to be hard. NOw, I just go to work, and come home. Then, I went to high school, studied, ALSO went to work. It's double duty. I hated it. I also hated college. But you didn't ask about that ;)

basically anything that requires me to study and interferes with my sleeping ritual, I ain't down with :nod:

See, I kinda hated college. High school was sooo easy for me(and yes, I was taking college prep classes), that, 95% of the time, I could do-almost nothing-, and skate with B's. Getting all A's might've cut into the party schedule a little too much.:o :p College was SUCH a financial strain for me(I worked, sometimes TWO jobs, while attending full time), that I think that's the main reason I don't think fondly of college. I had to work my ASS off in college.

HomerMcvie
03-18-2007, 05:33 PM
HEY!! i know a few other germ-o-phobes on here :laugh: do i really need to start a thread??? :wavey: :laugh:

Don't be pointing that dirty germy little finger at me!:lol:

amber
03-18-2007, 05:36 PM
HEY!! i know a few other germ-o-phobes on here :laugh: do i really need to start a thread??? :wavey: :laugh:

Please don't. I hate hearing all y'all bitch about things that normal people easily live and thrive through every day. :D :xoxo:

See, I kinda hated college. High school was sooo easy for me(and yes, I was taking college prep classes), that, 95% of the time, I could do-almost nothing-, and skate with B's. Getting all A's might've cut into the party schedule a little too much. College was SUCH a financial strain for me(I worked, sometimes TWO jobs, while attending full time), that I think that's the main reason I don't think fondly of college. I had to work my ASS off in college.

That is quite an accomplishment, though, you should be proud. It would be incredibly hard for me to work that much and do school.

michelle2677
03-18-2007, 05:37 PM
See, I kinda hated college. High school was sooo easy for me(and yes, I was taking college prep classes), that, 95% of the time, I could do-almost nothing-, and skate with B's. Getting all A's might've cut into the party schedule a little too much.:o :p College was SUCH a financial strain for me(I worked, sometimes TWO jobs, while attending full time), that I think that's the main reason I don't think fondly of college. I had to work my ASS off in college.


I worked 2 jobs in college too, and went full time. I just don't like studying :shrug: I've NEVER been one of those people who could skim by without cracking a book. I ALWAYS had to study my ass off, just to get by. But then later i went back to school and retook a lot of classes I had flunked out of :laugh: Aced them ...so I dunno. It may have been my attitude :nod:


Don't be pointing that dirty germy little finger at me!:lol:

I'm not the one who takes flip flps and towels to hotels :shrug:



well..I used to not, anyway :mad: :mad: :laugh:

estranged4life
03-18-2007, 05:39 PM
See, I kinda hated college. High school was sooo easy for me(and yes, I was taking college prep classes), that, 95% of the time, I could do-almost nothing-, and skate with B's. Getting all A's might've cut into the party schedule a little too much.:o :p College was SUCH a financial strain for me(I worked, sometimes TWO jobs, while attending full time), that I think that's the main reason I don't think fondly of college. I had to work my ASS off in college.

which is why as soon as I finished my 2 year Drafting/Civil Engineering degree (I had a headstart since I was already enrolled while the rest of the Senior class of '88 were still in high school. Btw, I received an Associates in Applied Science) I immediately enrolled in Tech.School for another degree program - Quality Control/Non-Destructive Testing (Associates in Applied Science - Minor in Mathematics)

I worked the whole time I attended college/Tech.School and had much more a good time than I ever did in high school. I paid all the loans off minus one - so I am happy to be financially free of that burden.

jannieC
03-18-2007, 05:51 PM
College was SUCH a financial strain for me(I worked, sometimes TWO jobs, while attending full time), that I think that's the main reason I don't think fondly of college. I had to work my ASS off in college.

I really struggled in undergrad too, so I know the feeling. I went back to school when I was 28 and worked full time while being a full time student. It was really a nightmare. I actually love graduate school, though. It's like a whole new world- classes I actually enjoy and have interest in (except Research Methods, of course).

michelle2677
03-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Please don't. I hate hearing all y'all bitch about things that normal people easily live and thrive through every day. :D :xoxo:



yeah. we'll see which one lives longer :nod: you're probably carrying around some undiscovered cooty right now that causes you to form a third eye or some crazy **** like that :laugh:

no thank you.

amber
03-18-2007, 06:07 PM
yeah. we'll see which one lives longer :nod: you're probably carrying around some undiscovered cooty right now that causes you to form a third eye or some crazy **** like that :laugh:

no thank you.

Actually, my immune system is probably stronger, going with the theory that I've been in contact with more germs. :shrug: I know I rarely get sick. Like, once in 12 years rarely. :wavey:

Wait...I thought my third eye was natural? :confused:

And please do not wish living longer upon me. *shudder*.

carrie721
03-18-2007, 06:12 PM
Actually, my immune system is probably stronger, going with the theory that I've been in contact with more germs. :shrug: I know I rarely get sick. Like, once in 12 years rarely. :wavey:

Wait...I thought my third eye was natural? :confused:

And please do not wish living longer upon me. *shudder*.

word. i am not a germophobe, i repeat, not a germophobe at all, and i've gotten sick once in the last year and a half. that was a cold that lasted like 3 days. the last time i got sick before that was when i started working in childcare, and that happens to everybody who works in childcare. those little ****ers are germ bubble machines.

amber
03-18-2007, 06:17 PM
word. i am not a germophobe, i repeat, not a germophobe at all, and i've gotten sick once in the last year and a half. that was a cold that lasted like 3 days. the last time i got sick before that was when i started working in childcare, and that happens to everybody who works in childcare. those little ****ers are germ bubble machines.

:laugh:

yeah. I can't believe you worked with kids. Little brats. :p

Don't get me wrong, some stuff grosses me out, but not because it is germy, really, just cause it is gross. Spit grosses me out, now. Snot. But I'm not thinking about it unless it is right there, like if I have to see it. I understand that you can catch things from public places, and employ appropriate caution for the most part, but that's about as far as it goes.

carrie721
03-18-2007, 06:19 PM
:laugh:

yeah. I can't believe you worked with kids. Little brats. :p

i miss it so much. best job i've ever had.

Don't get me wrong, some stuff grosses me out, but not because it is germy, really, just cause it is gross. Spit grosses me out, now. Snot. But I'm not thinking about it unless it is right there, like if I have to see it. I understand that you can catch things from public places, and employ appropriate caution for the most part, but that's about as far as it goes.

oh, some stuff grosses me out for sure. but i don't look at a napkin dispenser at a restaurant as a germy gauntlet.

amber
03-18-2007, 06:21 PM
i miss it so much. best job i've ever had.



oh, some stuff grosses me out for sure. but i don't look at a napkin dispenser at a restaurant as a germy gauntlet.

Really? I didn't know you liked kids. Erg. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if some penis breathed on you after all. :laugh:

carrie721
03-18-2007, 06:23 PM
Really? I didn't know you liked kids. Erg. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if some penis breathed on you after all. :laugh:

i love kids, i just don't ever want one to spring from my loins.

note to all hyperventilating penises out there: stay the fukc away from me!

:lol:

amber
03-18-2007, 06:24 PM
all hyperventilating penises

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Did you see Saturday Night Live last night? The guy who had R.P.S. - Restless Penis Syndrome? :laugh:

carrie721
03-18-2007, 06:25 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Did you see Saturday Night Live last night? The guy who had R.P.S. - Restless Penis Syndrome? :laugh:

LOL. no, i missed it! i fell asleep at, like, 11. wtf.

ontheEdgeof17
03-18-2007, 06:26 PM
Did you see Saturday Night Live last night? The guy who had R.P.S. - Restless Penis Syndrome? :laugh:

Yeah. Not very funny, IMO. Actually, the whole show was a bore.

amber
03-18-2007, 06:36 PM
Yeah. Not very funny, IMO. Actually, the whole show was a bore.

I thought it was really funny. The whole show, I mean, was pretty good. Although weekend update wasn't as funny as usual.

Thanks, DD. Speaking of bore...:P

irishgrl
03-18-2007, 09:45 PM
I loved high school. Of course, I went back during the times we had classes in caves:lol: No, it was 1972-1976

well whaddya know, another 76 graduate! (was your slogan "Spirit of 76" too?)

sparky
03-18-2007, 10:59 PM
Now, my days are filled with one or two boring things for the most part, rather than 7 mostly interesting things. In highschool I had drama class and choir class and then drama or choir rehearsals, then also a sport to practice after school and games to go to, and then drama and choir performances to do in front of people. Or band, when younger.

The cool thing about that was opportunity, and the ability to learn things.
Totally cool that you were part art geek and part jock. There a few of us out there.

It's fun if people watch you do stuff you are good at all the time. hee.

Well yeah. And to have the time and options to find out what you are good at.

And also, at my old highschool drama and choir kids were geeks, but at my new highschool they weren't, so I got into those things instead of just sports.

It is a bummer that you missed out on the continuity of the group. That is something I really value. Those people who have seen it all, other than my family, I mean. And the kids from school saw a different side of me. Its a great touchstone, that persective and shared experience.

I'm clearly in the minority, to refer to the title of the thread. Simply considering the fact that I unraveled all that **** and gave it the amount of thought it needed to become a relevant thing that was of concrete benefit. Warts and all. Puzzling.

estranged4life
03-18-2007, 11:13 PM
Having thought about it - there's only one positive I can take from my high school years:

NEVER loan someone your music (Be it CD or cassette) because either you will never see it again, or it will return to you in worse shape than it was before you loaned it out.

sparky
03-18-2007, 11:21 PM
Having thought about it - there's only one positive I can take from my high school years:

NEVER loan someone your music (Be it CD or cassette) because either you will never see it again, or it will return to you in worse shape than it was before you loaned it out.

Well that's something to show for four years. Better than a stick in the eye.

Wild_Heart03
03-19-2007, 12:50 AM
High school tended to be a mixing pot for me. Some days it was fantastic, other days I longed for the day I'd get my diploma and hightail it the fukc out of there. I was never one of the "in crowd", though I did end up making a lot of friends when I joined drama club. Actually to be honest, most of the fun times occurred around my drama club friends, but most of the rest of high school was just hell.

The few people I actually cared about I still keep in touch with, so I'm sure when my reunion comes around I probably won't even bother to go.

GardenStateGirlie
03-19-2007, 01:17 AM
i don't miss it. the only aspect of high school i miss is performing (i did a lot of musical theater). apart from that, no. i don't miss the people, the constant need to fit in and compete with one another, etc.

i look back (it'll be six years this june) and i realize that in retrospect, there was so much more beyond the walls of high school that none of us were even remotely acutely aware of. and when you spend five days a week with the same people for several hours a day, i suppose that's bound to happen. all of the dramatics and she slept with him and he did this and she's a whore business and i hate her were laughable then -- and they're even more laughable now. but i suppose that's part of growing up and realizing that no one is any better than anyone else.

no, you're not the minority. high school was lame, from what i can recall.

amber
03-19-2007, 01:21 AM
The cool thing about that was opportunity, and the ability to learn things.
Totally cool that you were part art geek and part jock. There a few of us out there.

That is what I was thinking when I read yours. And Strand's. I feel really "lucky".


Well yeah. And to have the time and options to find out what you are good at.
Yes. But I mean, I already knew I was good at those things, I'd been doing them for years before highschool. But definitely, all that experience.



It is a bummer that you missed out on the continuity of the group. That is something I really value. Those people who have seen it all, other than my family, I mean. And the kids from school saw a different side of me. Its a great touchstone, that persective and shared experience.
It was for the best. The "group" was 'bout sick of me. :laugh: But I guess you are right in a way because I had known those kids from the first highschool my whole life, and I am sad that I can't really be invited to those reunions. However, I'm pretty sure my last 2 highschool years were much, much, much, better and more fun for me by moving to the new school. So much. I made a lot of new friends and was involved in a lot of activities.
Although sports was harder at the new school, the new girls didn't like an interloper getting to play instead of them and stuff. But I only marginally cared, I was there to play. I mean, I kicked ass and was on their team, so they couldn't really ignore me or anything. Plus, the softball girls were really redneck, and not too smart. :shocked: :laugh: The volleyball girls were normal, smart, etc.

I'm clearly in the minority, to refer to the title of the thread. Simply considering the fact that I unraveled all that **** and gave it the amount of thought it needed to become a relevant thing that was of concrete benefit. Warts and all. Puzzling.

That is interesting. I don't know how you did that. But your highschool experience seems...full of a lot of stuff. Emotion stuff, and growing up stuff. Experiences. You know, enough stuff to warrant that attention. Pretty cool.

My highschool years were mostly like the rest of my life before that. I guess it wasn't incredibly dramatic, just very busy. Busy with things that didn't really have emotional content, no big growing experiences or anything. I guess I was suprised that I could make friends and things in a new place. I actually got along really well, which I'm suprised at. That was valuable. I guess some part of me expects that people won't like me, but they did, and they do (not everyone, of course). I guess the shy, insecure part inside me sometimes forgets that I'm not really shy and insecure. :laugh: Anyway, it's still something I have to remember whenever I'm in a new/social situation.
I tell you what, if I were in highschool I wouldn't have a Speech quiz due in the next 1/2 hour. :mad: :laugh: Although I always waited until the last minute do do my work then, too. 3.0 GPA, baybe!!! Rock on, mediocre!!! :laugh:

strandinthewind
03-19-2007, 03:00 AM
I can't remember if I ever asked you if you've been to Shreveport. I seem to remember strandinthewind saying he had, and he kind of backed up my opinion that it's awful. :laugh:


1. Shreve PIT

2. Can't we give it to Arkansas?

strandinthewind
03-19-2007, 03:02 AM
That is what I was thinking when I read yours. And Strand's. I feel really "lucky" . . . .

I got along with everyone. Of course, when you sing in full voice "OOOOOOOOOOOKLAHOMA WHERE THE WIND . . . . . . " while loping down the halls, it is hard for people to hate youi :laugh:

Actually, I was a little like Stella Mayfair in High School :eek:

markolas
03-19-2007, 07:51 AM
1. Shreve PIT

2. Can't we give it to Arkansas?

We should give the entire state north of Baton Rouge to Arkansas. What the hell were you doing in "Shreve pit" anyway? God, I hate that place. Somebody should burn it to the ground. Worthless.

trackaghost
03-19-2007, 07:53 AM
I hated school and aside from one or two people, I don't really care about anyone I went to school with.
We don't really have school reunions here but if we did, I certainly wouldn't go. I'm still in touch with the people I want to be in touch with, so what's the point?

markolas
03-19-2007, 07:53 AM
I'm clearly in the minority, to refer to the title of the thread.

Well, I don't know. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I went to the only high school in the country that didn't have a drama dept. :shrug:

GypsySorcerer
03-19-2007, 09:39 AM
I didn't hate high school, but I certainly didn't enjoy it. I attended two different schools - transferred after my sophomore year to another school in the same county. Both were rural schools (the one I graduated from moreso than the other), so there was plenty of "small-town politics" BS..... so if one had a certain last name you could pretty much get away with anything. :rolleyes:

I was kind of in the middle clique, which is the worst place to be stuck. :laugh: Not popular, not unpopular, a joiner but not an over-joiner, etc. I only keep in contact with a handful of people, and most of that is sporadic. My ten year reunion is next year, don't know if I'll go or not. There's a few teachers I'd like to see more than anyone.

JazmenFlowers
03-19-2007, 10:13 AM
There's a few teachers I'd like to see more than anyone.
oh god. that's even worse. I was so mean to teachers and such a stuck up snot. they all hated me. there were only a couple I liked. and that's mostly because I constantly had visions of them in their underwear. :laugh:

hello, Mr. Brackett and Mr. Ican'trememberyourlastname...are you out there? call me, k?

strandinthewind
03-19-2007, 10:49 AM
Well, I don't know. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I went to the only high school in the country that didn't have a drama dept. :shrug:

I was the drama department in my high school :cool:

strandinthewind
03-19-2007, 10:50 AM
We should give the entire state north of Baton Rouge to Arkansas. What the hell were you doing in "Shreve pit" anyway? God, I hate that place. Somebody should burn it to the ground. Worthless.

We were fishing in Toledo Bend in the Sam Rayburn Reservoir. It is no place I want to go back to. AND - when I graduated law school, I was offered a job there, which I actually considered taking :eek:

skcin
03-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Ohhh. I always asked to play my friend's clarinet, I loved it. That is really gross, actually. I don't think we sucked our spit back up, we just emptied the valve.
:laugh:
I'm not one of those freaky germ people like you and Paula.

I'm not a freak about germs! :mad: I think I even let you have a sip of my Tostito!



Looking back on high school, I had a f*cking blast. I got made fun of a good amount (acne, being a headbanger chick) but I had great friends & we had our own little clique - we were too cool for school, baby. Plus most of my friends (and my BF at the time) were all between 2 & 4 years older than me, so I didn't really hang much with the people I went to classes with. I went to both my proms - what a bore they were. :rolleyes:

I didn't bother with the 10 year reunion - I still see lots of those people around, didn't feel the need to go. But I'll try & make the 20th in 2013 - I like Sparky's take on the whole thing. I think it will be fun & interesting & sad & hilarious.