A Public Apology

[gldstwmn]

It has come to my attention that some of you feel that I am not living up to the title of moderator.
I am only a pm away with your thoughts or suggestions. I will take them seriously and in kind.
I would like to offer my sincerest apolgies to those of you I have been short with, hurt or otherwise harmed.
I am very proud to be affiliated with the best fan board on the net. It is not my wish nor my intention to leave.
In the future I give you my word to operate with a kinder, gentler machine gun hand (IT'S A JOKE! :lol: That's actually a lyric from a Neil Young song.) Seriously though, I feel it is my duty to serve you in the capacity that you so richly deserve.
Namaste'.
gldstwmn

[amber]

:confused: :shrug:


:xoxo: :wavey: :angel:

[ELIUD]

gldstwmn is a dude?

[amber]

gldstwmn is a dude?

No. She's a Chris like Chris in FM. But different. But still a girl. If you see what I mean.

[BTFLCHLD]

And I personally feel you should be receiving an apology for being written to in an unkind and disrespectful manner. The moderators of this board should be treated with respect. Not only do they volunteer their time, they also treat everyone as fairly as possible and do so respectfully and in confidence. Their work could not possibly be easy and, with that, they should be treated with the utmost respect. It is unfortunate that, as often is the case, if someone dislikes a decision made by a moderator their recourse is to make moutains out of molehills never letting go of the bone in their desire to 'geteven.' :distress: Moderators are as human as all of us...good and bad days...high and low emotions...and it is obvious they do the best that they can under often stressful situations. Chris, your note shows you as a kind individual who is open to critique as well that you are open to looking inside yourself and being the best person you can be. That rocks and only ups your cool score with me. A good look within is something everyone should do. What's that they say about stones and glasshouses?

[ELIUD]

No. She's a Chris like Chris in FM. But different. But still a girl. If you see what I mean.
Yeah. I tried to think of female Chris' before I posted. But alas I jumped the gun.

[Miss Vicky]

The moderators of this board should be treated with respect. Not only do they volunteer their time, they also treat everyone as fairly as possible and do so respectfully and in confidence. Their work could not possibly be easy and, with that, they should be treated with the utmost respect.


Moderators who wish to receive respect must first show it, something which gldstwmn has recently failed to do. Do not assume that those among us who have voiced concerns about this matter have done so because of a dislike for decisions that have been made or in an attempt to "get even." It's not a matter of "Give me what I want or I'm telling on you." She has shown blatant disrespect for certain members of the Ledge both on these boards and on Seven Wonders and has not conducted herself in a way that is fitting of her position. Put simply: She has not led by example and has commited many of the same infractions for which she has chastized others.




Chris -

While I am glad to see that you are making an attempt to make amends for your behavior, it remains to be seen whether your actions will mirror your words. I have little faith in the ability of people to change but - for once - I hope to be proved wrong.

[BlackWidow]

Chris,
You have been nothing but wonderful to me!
I appreciate all that you do that we know about and ALL that you do..that we do not know about. Your service is to this board is invaluable!
XO
Andre

[Phoenix]

It has come to my attention that some of you feel that I am not living up to the title of moderator.
I am only a pm away with your thoughts or suggestions. I will take them seriously and in kind.
Chris Fox aka gldstwmn

I will personally vouch for what you have said. A while ago, we had a HORRIBLE mis-communication and mis-understanding, and you were very open to communicating and to getting it resolved. that allowed me to appreciate and respect you. and move on. If anyone has a "problem" then they do need to attempt to make the effort to have it resolved. Negative energy in the universe is never good, and it has been my experience that Chris is an intelegent and sensable person who can hanlde a situation like an adult.
Chris...:wavey: ....~Aaron.:)

[strandinthewind]

I think people are way too sensitive, but such is life.

I also think Chris is fair and can be pithy at times, but it is likely meant in jest, to lighten the mood, etc.

Also, can you imagine moderating this gang :eek: I am not a moderator, but people have involved me in their BS via PM's and I was horrified by their pettiness.

So, there is that.

[foxyluva]

gldstwmn is a dude?

*snort* :laugh:

[estranged4life]

I also think Chris is fair and can be pithy at times, but it is likely meant in jest, to lighten the mood, etc.


Faux News & Bill O'Really probably own the rights to the word 'pithy' and will probably sue ya :lol:

[strandinthewind]

*snort* :laugh:

Well, I have seen her act like she has more balls than most men I know :eek: :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Faux News & Bill O'Really probably own the rights to the word 'pithy' and will probably sue ya :lol:

I look forward to that pissing war in court :laugh:

[carrie721]

I look forward to that pissing war in court :laugh:

i believe you mean "pithing" war.

[Rickypt]

Moderators who wish to receive respect must first show it, something which gldstwmn has recently failed to do. Do not assume that those among us who have voiced concerns about this matter have done so because of a dislike for decisions that have been made or in an attempt to "get even." It's not a matter of "Give me what I want or I'm telling on you." She has shown blatant disrespect for certain members of the Ledge both on these boards and on Seven Wonders and has not conducted herself in a way that is fitting of her position. Put simply: She has not led by example and has commited many of the same infractions for which she has chastized others.




Chris -

While I am glad to see that you are making an attempt to make amends for your behavior, it remains to be seen whether your actions will mirror your words. I have little faith in the ability of people to change but - for once - I hope to be proved wrong.

Oh, please....YOU are complaining about someone's behavior. I've seen it all.

[BTFLCHLD]

Moderators who wish to receive respect must first show it, something which gldstwmn has

recently

failed to do. Do not assume that those among us who have voiced concerns about this matter have done so because of a dislike for decisions that have been made or in an attempt to "get even." It's not a matter of "Give me what I want or I'm telling on you." She has shown blatant disrespect for certain members of the Ledge both on these boards and on Seven Wonders and has not conducted herself in a way that is fitting of her position. Put simply: She has not led by example and has commited many of the same infractions for which she has chastized others. play blind. I've read spew that made inference that the ledge was slowed or down for bannings or closure all due in part to moderators recent interactions with members and "E" (as some refer to him.) transparent. get over yourselves.

[Miss Vicky]

play blind. I've read spew that made inference that the ledge was slowed or down for bannings or closure all due in part to moderators recent interactions with members and "E" (as some refer to him.) transparent. get over yourselves.

You really think it's about that?

Thanks for the laugh, I needed it.

[BTFLCHLD]

Thanks for the laugh, I needed it. my pleasure

[strandinthewind]

Guys, come on - Vicky can be blunt, but I, for one appreciate that.

Of course, her hatred of La Nicks does lower her points a few notches :p

[HomerMcvie]

I really don't want to cause any hard feelings, or stir any ****, BUT, I firmly believe- that trying to MOD Seven Wonders, and threaten Ledge bannings, OVER THERE, was RIDICULOUS. Think about it, folks...
Because.that's.what.happened.

Maybe we should have to list all the sites we visit, let the mods review all our posts, and make sure that our behavior is up to their mods standards. Surely there's some sort of tracking system that can be put into place.

[HomerMcvie]

Of course, her hatred of La Nicks does lower her points a few notches :p

It's what endears her to me!:blob1: :blob1: :blob1:

[Miss Vicky]

my pleasure

Actually, my biggest problem is her contempt for and condescension towards ryan8472 - a moderator for whom I have the utmost respect.

I understand that people have personal differences with each other, but her insistence on dragging it out into the public forums (while preaching about "moderator solidarity") is inexcusable.

As for the comment made earlier about my behavior, they are two wholly seperate issues and one is not relevant to the other.

[Miss Vicky]

trying to MOD Seven Wonders, and threaten Ledge bannings, OVER THERE

And that would be my second biggest problem.

Oh and Strandie? I appreciate you, too. :xoxo:

[BTFLCHLD]

I firmly believe- that trying to MOD Seven Wonders, and threaten Ledge bannings, OVER THERE, was RIDICULOUS. Think about it, folks...
Because.that's.what.happened. I've can read...and I know there was a dis towards the mods of this board creating shutdown or ban due to recent issues at this board. do people actually think a mod would do that as an act of retaliation...really?? f'in ridic. I would have reacted in the same way chris did in defending the board and explaining mods had nothing to do with it nor had info on what was happening. anyone who can read would know there wasn't a reference to ban it was a fincheckyourself in accusing ledge mods of slowing...ban...or close of this board for such idiotic reasoning as suggested.

[BTFLCHLD]

dragging it out into the public forums practice what you preach...what are you doing right now?

[strandinthewind]

I really don't want to cause any hard feelings, or stir any ****, BUT, I firmly believe- that trying to MOD Seven Wonders, and threaten Ledge bannings, OVER THERE, was RIDICULOUS. Think about it, folks...
Because.that's.what.happened.

Maybe we should have to list all the sites we visit, let the mods review all our posts, and make sure that our behavior is up to their mods standards. Surely there's some sort of tracking system that can be put into place.

I took it as sarcasm - but that is the deal about the written word - it is hard to discern the way in which it is proffered.

[Miss Vicky]

practice what you preach...what are you doing right now?

I didn't drag it out. :shrug:

I simply am responding to her PUBLIC apology and to your PUBLIC statement that you feel she did not do anything wrong.

[buckymcnix]

It has come to my attention that some of you feel that I am not living up to the title of moderator.
I am only a pm away with your thoughts or suggestions. I will take them seriously and in kind.
I would like to offer my sincerest apolgies to those of you I have been short with, hurt or otherwise harmed.
I am very proud to be affiliated with the best fan board on the net. It is not my wish nor my intention to leave.
In the future I give you my word to operate with a kinder, gentler machine gun hand (IT'S A JOKE! :lol: That's actually a lyric from a Neil Young song.) Seriously though, I feel it is my duty to serve you in the capacity that you so richly deserve.
Namaste.
Chris Fox aka gldstwmn

Hey Chris -
I think that this was a very nice gesture and a very heartfelt message.
A classy move.
I wish your thread had not degenerated into what it has though - a finger pointing fest.
Thanks for extending the olive branch on this for the betterment of our whole community.
Bill

[HomerMcvie]

Hey Chris -
I think that this was a very nice gesture and a very heartfelt message.
A classy move.
I wish your thread had not degenerated into what it has though - a finger pointing fest.
Thanks for extending the olive branch on this for the betterment of our whole community.
Bill

We're just discussing what the issues were. Maybe everyone doesn't know what the problem was.:shrug:

[foxyluva]

We're just discussing what the issues were. Maybe everyone doesn't know what the problem was.:shrug:

I don't think they do. I didn't until somebody explained to me...

[HomerMcvie]

I've can read...and I know there was a dis towards the mods of this board creating shutdown or ban due to recent issues at this board. do people actually think a mod would do that as an act of retaliation...really?? f'in ridic. I would have reacted in the same way chris did in defending the board and explaining mods had nothing to do with it nor had info on what was happening. anyone who can read would know there wasn't a reference to ban it was a fincheckyourself in accusing ledge mods of slowing...ban...or close of this board for such idiotic reasoning as suggested.

Actually(I was gonna give you a link, but that's forbidden, right? It's on SW, under "links"), I said something about "someone" having carte blanche, and she said something to the effect of, "keep talking out of your ass, and you're liable to find yourself spending time on a board with 16yo's" (referring to SW, inferring that I'd be banned here[IMO]).
Very bad mod behavior, IMO.
And I HONESTLY have nothing personally against Chris.

[Johnny Stew]

Hey Chris -
I think that this was a very nice gesture and a very heartfelt message.
A classy move.
I wish your thread had not degenerated into what it has though - a finger pointing fest. I feel the same way... on both counts.

Regardless of what happened at Seven Wonders, Chris has apologized to one and all and has promised to take a more even-handed approach in her future dealings.

I think that's a VERY classy gesture on her part, and the mature thing on everyone else's part would be to accept her apology and move on, rather than dredging up the whos and whys.

[buckymcnix]

We're just discussing what the issues were. Maybe everyone doesn't know what the problem was.:shrug:

ok -
sorry - i do understand that now.
it just seems like it went from a very nice gesture thread into a everybody dug-in defending themselves again.

my bad


(carry on):laugh:

[Miss Vicky]

And I HONESTLY have nothing personally against Chris.

Neither do I.

Our problem is not with her as a person. If she was just a regular Ledgie, I wouldn't be bothered by this behavior and certainly wouldn't have done anything about it, but she isn't a regular Ledgie. She's a moderator and should therefore be held to different standards than the rest of us.

And that being said, I'd like to send my love out to those mods who have done well to keep their cool and be diplomatic in resolving the problems that arise on these beloved forums. :wavey: :xoxo:

[michelle2677]

I'm not a long-time member, so i don't know. has this place ever been so divided?? seriously?? i've heard a lot of comments how people were pissed when that carne dude got banned. But still.

[BTFLCHLD]

Chris has apologized

accept her apology and move on

thankyou Brian.

[Johnny Stew]

I'm not a long-time member, so i don't know. has this place ever been so divided?? seriously?? i've heard a lot of comments how people were pissed when that carne dude got banned. But still.Eh, it happens every 2-3 years, over one thing or another.

Not to sound cynical, but I've seen it all happen so many times now... the only thing that really changes, is the people involved. And sometimes not even that. :shrug:

At any rate, things will get back to "normal" again soon. I'd mention something about "cycles," but I think Lindsey owns a copyright on that speech. ;)

[estranged4life]

Eh, it happens every 2-3 years, over one thing or another.

Not to sound cynical, but I've seen it all happen so many times now... the only thing that really changes, is the people involved. And sometimes not even that. :shrug:

At any rate, things will get back to "normal" again soon. I'd mention something about "cycles," but I think Lindsey owns a copyright on that speech. ;)

and somehow I have stayed the hell out of that "cycle" (Hope Lindsey doesnt sue me for using his term :rolleyes: ).

[gldstwmn]

And I personally feel you should be receiving an apology for being written to in an unkind and disrespectful manner. The moderators of this board should be treated with respect. Not only do they volunteer their time, they also treat everyone as fairly as possible and do so respectfully and in confidence. Their work could not possibly be easy and, with that, they should be treated with the utmost respect. It is unfortunate that, as often is the case, if someone dislikes a decision made by a moderator their recourse is to make moutains out of molehills never letting go of the bone in their desire to 'geteven.' :distress: Moderators are as human as all of us...good and bad days...high and low emotions...and it is obvious they do the best that they can under often stressful situations. Chris, your note shows you as a kind individual who is open to critique as well that you are open to looking inside yourself and being the best person you can be. That rocks and only ups your cool score with me. A good look within is something everyone should do. What's that they say about stones and glasshouses?

All of my love Nikki. You have said more than I could ever say. xoxoxo

[gldstwmn]

Yeah. I tried to think of female Chris' before I posted. But alas I jumped the gun.

I really can sing darling. You should hear my version of Over And Over. :)

[BTFLCHLD]

xoxoxo hey, I've been known to write an apology letter post or two or four myself. such is life, love and growing. hang in there, babe. (((((chris)))))

[gldstwmn]

:confused: :shrug:


:xoxo: :wavey: :angel:

I love you. But you already know that. Come stay at the Bellagio again sometime. You remind me of myself when I was your age.:xoxo:

[gldstwmn]

And I personally feel you should be receiving an apology for being written to in an unkind and disrespectful manner. The moderators of this board should be treated with respect. Not only do they volunteer their time, they also treat everyone as fairly as possible and do so respectfully and in confidence. Their work could not possibly be easy and, with that, they should be treated with the utmost respect. It is unfortunate that, as often is the case, if someone dislikes a decision made by a moderator their recourse is to make moutains out of molehills never letting go of the bone in their desire to 'geteven.' :distress: Moderators are as human as all of us...good and bad days...high and low emotions...and it is obvious they do the best that they can under often stressful situations. Chris, your note shows you as a kind individual who is open to critique as well that you are open to looking inside yourself and being the best person you can be. That rocks and only ups your cool score with me. A good look within is something everyone should do. What's that they say about stones and glasshouses?

Thank you my darling. I'm 43 years old and not much I can't forgive. You are one of the most psychically, spriritually advanced people on this board:xoxo:

[gldstwmn]

I think people are way too sensitive, but such is life.

I also think Chris is fair and can be pithy at times, but it is likely meant in jest, to lighten the mood, etc.

Also, can you imagine moderating this gang :eek: I am not a moderator, but people have involved me in their BS via PM's and I was horrified by their pettiness.

So, there is that.

And I will always love you ooh oooh...:lol:

[gldstwmn]

I will personally vouch for what you have said. A while ago, we had a HORRIBLE mis-communication and mis-understanding, and you were very open to communicating and to getting it resolved. that allowed me to appreciate and respect you. and move on. If anyone has a "problem" then they do need to attempt to make the effort to have it resolved. Negative energy in the universe is never good, and it has been my experience that Chris is an intelegent and sensable person who can hanlde a situation like an adult.
Chris...:wavey: ....~Aaron.:)


I love you, baby doll. :xoxo:

[gldstwmn]

I took it as sarcasm - but that is the deal about the written word - it is hard to discern the way in which it is proffered.

You know me so well. To know me in person is not to know me on this board. I am quite different, no?

[gldstwmn]

We're just discussing what the issues were. Maybe everyone doesn't know what the problem was.:shrug:

I'm listening to Duran Duran right now and if I was in the islands, I wouldn't complain. :)

[goldustsongbird]

^ I actually have no idea what's going on here, to be honest. :sorry:

[HomerMcvie]

Sorry, but you addressed everyone, except mine and Vicky's posts. I find that odd.

Perhaps posting nothing, would've been better, since you didn't reply to the offended. You only responded to your supporters.:confused: JMO.

[goldustsongbird]

Sorry, but you addressed everyone, except mine and Vicky's posts. I find that odd.

Perhaps posting nothing, would've been better, since you didn't reply to the offended. You only responded to your supporters.:confused: JMO.

Can someone tell me what the hell is going on? :lol: I'm serious. All I can gather from this is that gdw is apologizing for...? Because...? And people are pissed off.

[HomerMcvie]

^^^It's typed out(pretty much), IN the thread.

Stop acting like me, toooo lazy to read it all!:p :xoxo:

[goldustsongbird]

^^^It's typed out(pretty much), IN the thread.

Stop acting like me, toooo lazy to read it all!:p :xoxo:

Hey, it's been a long day. I can be as lazy as I want to be. :mad: :angel:

[HomerMcvie]

Hey, it's been a long day. I can be as lazy as I want to be. :mad: :angel:
BTW, I love that "Shady Pines" pic! That's GOLD, baby!:angel:

[goldustsongbird]

BTW, I love that "Shady Pines" pic! That's GOLD, baby!:angel:

Caturday wins at life. S'all I gotta say.

[Serrart]

Can someone tell me what the hell is going on? :lol: I'm serious. All I can gather from this is that gdw is apologizing for...? Because...? And people are pissed off.

Apparently two Ledgies got the delirium of onnipotence (not sure this expression exists in English too but hopefully is clear), after a moderator said something unappropriate in jest, but was perceived as a serious matter and started an inner turmoil (on this forum?... Incredible).

Then, the moderator was classy enough to apologize while the two ledgies are reading right now the "Handbook for the perfect way to get your ego boosted", to find the right way to have their names engraved close to "The Ledge" sign.

Romy

[Sarah]

Apparently two Ledgies got the delirium of onnipotence (not sure this expression exists in English too but hopefully is clear), after a moderator said something unappropriate in jest, but was perceived as a serious matter and started an inner turmoil (on this forum?... Incredible).

Then, the moderator was classy enough to apologize while the two ledgies are reading right now the "Handbook for the perfect way to get your ego boosted", to find the right way to have their names engraved close to "The Ledge" sign.

Romy

ouch. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I really can sing darling. You should hear my version of Over And Over. :)

Been there and heard it :nod:

As did most people in a mile radius of us in a convertible driving through Detroit!

[strandinthewind]

You know me so well darling. To know me in person is not to know me on this board. I am quite different, no?

Honey - I have hauled you, your daughter, your extended family, my psychologist, and his HOT friend all over New York in a limo. while dressed as La Nicks :eek: - I think it does not get any more personal than that :laugh:

Not to mention she

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/Laine.jpg

was involved in that escapade :eek:

I still cannot believe that trip - It was like a dream. I mean the dining room in that suite could seat like 30 and we had three bathrooms, a kitchen, and servant's quarters - good times!

[sara1998]

Meh - whatever. I have no problems with Chris. I have always thought to be thoughtful and fair. She is a different person on the boards vs. in person, but who isn't? I still love ya, Chris, and have much respect for you. We need to see eachother again soon. xoxo

[WildHeart69]

I feel the same way... on both counts.

Regardless of what happened at Seven Wonders, Chris has apologized to one and all and has promised to take a more even-handed approach in her future dealings.

I think that's a VERY classy gesture on her part, and the mature thing on everyone else's part would be to accept her apology and move on, rather than dredging up the whos and whys.


amen to the voice of reason.:)

[ontheEdgeof17]

Now that we have this settled, can we get rid of all these stickies? :lol: Please?

[gldstwmn]

Apparently two Ledgies got the delirium of omnipotence (not sure this expression exists in English too but hopefully is clear),
Romy

Yes, it exists in English and you do pretty well with it. It is your second language, yes?

[gldstwmn]

Honey - I have hauled you, your daughter, your extended family, my psychologist, and his HOT friend all over New York in a limo. while dressed as La Nicks :eek: - I think it does not get any more personal than that :laugh:

Not to mention she

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/Laine.jpg

was involved in that escapade :eek:

I still cannot believe that trip - It was like a dream. I mean the dining room in that suite could seat like 30 and we had three bathrooms, a kitchen, and servant's quarters - good times!

Very good times! The limo picture pretty much says it all. Kind of like a mixture of The Osbournes, Mama's Family and The Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency. :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Now that we have this settled, can we get rid of all these stickies? :lol: Please?

I consolidated a couple of them about a month ago. But the keep coming back, like a bad rash. :lol: BTW, you're a nurse, how do you treat ringworm?
Also your sig pic rocks, as usual.

[Miss Vicky]

I consolidated a couple of them about a month ago. But the keep coming back, like a bad rash. BTW, you're a nurse, how do you treat ringworm?

I know this wasn't directed to me, but a prescription medication called Griseofulvin seems to be the standard treatment for both humans and pets.

[ontheEdgeof17]

BTW, you're a nurse, how do you treat ringworm?

Topical antifungals.

[gldstwmn]

I know this wasn't directed to me, but a prescription medication called Griseofulvin seems to be the standard treatment for both humans and pets.

Thank you. :wavey:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Honey - I have hauled you, your daughter, your extended family, my psychologist, and his HOT friend all over New York in a limo. while dressed as La Nicks :eek: - I think it does not get any more personal than that :laugh:

please tell me you walked in and out of the waldorf like that :laugh:

[BTFLCHLD]

what's going on? apparently two issues have bled into one. homie is offended as he felt he was threatened with ban, and msv is offended with chris's reaction to Ryan's PUBLIC NOT ADMIN discussion of disagreement with Chris' handling of circumstance. pretty simple to figure out and pretty ridic to build to this. Chris has come forth with an apology. I do not see anyone else offering an apology for their actions towards her...but then I would not expect that from those who feel they do no wrong.

[gldstwmn]

please tell me you walked in and out of the waldorf like that :laugh:

Oh yes, we most certainly did. :nod:

[Miss Vicky]

what's going on?

Get with the program. We're not even discussing that anymore. We're talking about fungus and La Nicks outfits now. :wavey:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Oh yes, we most certainly did. :nod:

i think i need photographic proof for the laugh factor. please tell me photos exist?

[gretchen]

Hey, can't we just all get along???:p :p I'm gonna start singing Kumbaya now...:angel:

[gldstwmn]

i think i need photographic proof for the laugh factor. please tell me photos exist?

They do. :nod: I don't know if I have Strandie's permission to post them on the board so I'll email it to you.

[BTFLCHLD]

Get with the program. who do you think you are? any and all "programs" are still up for my dissemination as I see fit...don't even try to tell me what to read and respond to. :mad:

[Miss Vicky]

who do you think you are? any and all "programs" are still up for my dissemination as I see fit...don't even try to tell me what to read and respond to. :mad:

Everybody who is actually involved in the situation and who know what went on have dropped the subject. Why won't you?

[BTFLCHLD]

Everybody who is actually involved in the situation and who know what went on have dropped the subject. Why won't you? Because I for one slept for the evening and have a response for those that called for a "what's up." What's your fkin excuse. I will post as I want...maybe it is time for you MYOB. :rolleyes:

[GardenStateGirlie]

They do. :nod: I don't know if I have Strandie's permission to post them on the board so I'll email it to you.

awesome. looking forward to it (it being the laugh) :p

[Miss Vicky]

Because I for one slept for the evening and have a response for those that called for a "what's up." What's your fkin excuse. I will post as I want...maybe it is time for you MYOB. :rolleyes:

Your post doesn't make a scrap of sense.

I am minding my business, seeing how I was actually involved in the situation that led to this thread.

You on the other hand are trying to involve yourself in it. Two wholly different things. So take your own advice.

[BTFLCHLD]

Your post doesn't make a scrap of sense.

I am minding my business, seeing how I was actually involved in the situation that led to this thread.

You on the other hand are trying to involve yourself in it. Two wholly different things. So take your own advice. chris is my business and your complaint regarding ryan is yours. Now stop reading initial posts of mine that aren't even directed at you...or are you that into my scraps that you deem as nonsense? somebody is secretely in love with niki. :lol: And for your information, I was online at the time of the ryansnafu so I am involved and have opinion whether you like it or not. me thinks you do.

[Miss Vicky]

chris is my business...


DROP IT.


Can I say it anymore clearly?

[ryan8472]

Knights of Columbus!

Can we knock it the f*ck off please? This is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

[michelle2677]

jesus, can we just drop the whole thing?? it has (seemed) to have been dropped 2 pages ago.

apparently chris and homie have some things they need to settle between the two of them and maybe that should take place in pm. Now whoever is going to be the one to initiate it is to be determined. I'm sure it can be resolved somewhat so at least we can all be civil towards one another.


I fully expect this matter to be dissolved here in public because seeker thinks he's the thread killer, when in fact it is me :laugh: Every big fight that has taken place and I give my 2 cents on, that's it-thread over. I like to think it's because I'm a wonderful voice of reason and rationale....er...yeah :lol:

anyway. i hope everyone works their problems out because i'm with curtis-all those stickys at the top are annoying :laugh:

loves and hugs around
(or maybe drinks would be better fitted)

[BTFLCHLD]

DROP IT.


Can I say it anymore clearly? bwwwahhhhaaa toobad you didn't hear the majority of us say that LAST NIGHT! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Miss Vicky]

bwwwahhhhaaa to bad you didn't hear the majority of us say that LAST NIGHT! :lol: :lol: :lol:

The subject had already been dropped. You dragged it back up.

Hence my "get with the program" comment.

It's obvious that you don't have the sense to see that and I'm through trying to explain it to you.

[BTFLCHLD]

The subject had already been dropped. You dragged it back up.

Hence my "get with the program" comment.

It's obvious that you don't have the sense to see that and I'm through trying to explain it to you. and alas what you don't have the sense to see if that I will respond to what I deem fit when I arrive at this board. get with the program. :wavey:

[UnwindedDreams]

It looks like one of these girls can't have the last word:rolleyes:

[HomerMcvie]

jesus, can we just drop the whole thing?? it has (seemed) to have been dropped 2 pages ago.

apparently chris and homie have some things they need to settle between the two of them and maybe that should take place in pm. Now whoever is going to be the one to initiate it is to be determined. I'm sure it can be resolved somewhat so at least we can all be civil towards one another.


I fully expect this matter to be dissolved here in public because seeker thinks he's the thread killer, when in fact it is me :laugh: Every big fight that has taken place and I give my 2 cents on, that's it-thread over. I like to think it's because I'm a wonderful voice of reason and rationale....er...yeah :lol:

anyway. i hope everyone works their problems out because i'm with curtis-all those stickys at the top are annoying :laugh:

loves and hugs around
(or maybe drinks would be better fitted)

I just find it odd that she responds to everyone's posts, but mine and Vicky's.
Would I like to see, "I WAS attempting to mod another board, and I was out of line. And I was wrong to threaten you with banning, for your actions on another board."?
Yes, I'd feel much better with a response like that. But, whatever.....life goes on.

[michelle2677]

I just find it odd that she responds to everyone's posts, but mine and Vicky's.
Would I like to see, "I WAS attempting to mod another board, and I was out of line. And I was wrong to threaten you with banning, for your actions on another board."?
Yes, I'd feel much better with a response like that. But, whatever.....life goes on.

oh, I know. and that wasn't directed towards you at all. Even though I mentioned your name, it was just what pertained to the arguement. :)

[Johnny Stew]

I just find it odd that she responds to everyone's posts, but mine and Vicky's.
Would I like to see, "I WAS attempting to mod another board, and I was out of line. And I was wrong to threaten you with banning, for your actions on another board."?
Yes, I'd feel much better with a response like that. But, whatever.....life goes on.She already apologized. To one and all.
Perhaps she feels that anything else would be redundant. :shrug:

[JazmenFlowers]

life's too short. I know that's a worn-out saying, but it's true. let's just let it go and try to do what a certain wise woman constantly says..."take care of yourself and each other" -

no one's perfect. we all say and do things that we shouldn't. me, Chris...everyone. she's put herself out there and apologized. anyway. no one really asked me, but I figured I'd weigh in...:lol:

[gldstwmn]

I am minding my business, seeing how I was actually involved in the situation that led to this thread.



You were? I honestly don't know what you're talking about. :confused: I posted an apology to anyone and everyone, not just one person. And I'd like to leave it at that. If you want to clarify, you can PM me. Thanks.:)

[Moony]

Thank you my darling. I'm 43 years old and not much I can't forgive. You are one of the most psychically, spriritually advanced people on this board:xoxo:

lololololol. wow.

[goldustsongbird]

Apparently two Ledgies got the delirium of onnipotence (not sure this expression exists in English too but hopefully is clear), after a moderator said something unappropriate in jest, but was perceived as a serious matter and started an inner turmoil (on this forum?... Incredible).

Romy

Liddy Buck, is that you? :shocked:

[GateandGarden]

Apparently two Ledgies got the delirium of onnipotence (not sure this expression exists in English too but hopefully is clear), after a moderator said something unappropriate in jest, but was perceived as a serious matter and started an inner turmoil (on this forum?... Incredible).

Then, the moderator was classy enough to apologize while the two ledgies are reading right now the "Handbook for the perfect way to get your ego boosted", to find the right way to have their names engraved close to "The Ledge" sign.

RomyI think the situation being discussed here has a history that precedes the isolated incident you're referring to in your post. So I don't see the sense in saying that David and Victoria have been making complaints that are coming out of nowhere.

And this goes without saying, but I would strongly disagree that either is after an ego boost. That just seems to come out of the blue and for no reason, IMO.

[Serrart]

Yes, it exists in English and you do pretty well with it. It is your second language, yes?

Hopefully. :)

Liddy Buck, is that you?

No... I don't think so.

I think the situation being discussed here has a history that precedes the isolated incident you're referring to in your post. So I don't see the sense in saying that David and Victoria have been making complaints that are coming out of nowhere.

And this goes without saying, but I would strongly disagree that either is after an ego boost. That just seems to come out of the blue and for no reason, IMO.

As my favourite playright would say, Right you are! (If you think so)... I just think this is one of those cases where everyone has his/ her own personal version of the truth, but judging from the action & the reactions in this thread I found mine particularly reasonable :D , and honestly, conspiracy theories are so passé.

Romy

[BlackWidow]

Eh, it happens every 2-3 years, over one thing or another.

Not to sound cynical, but I've seen it all happen so many times now... the only thing that really changes, is the people involved. And sometimes not even that. :shrug:

At any rate, things will get back to "normal" again soon. I'd mention something about "cycles," but I think Lindsey owns a copyright on that speech. ;)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

I gotta say...I admire the way Chris does not take any guff!!!

Do not let this make you too soft, Chris......

[Für Elise]

lololololol. wow. :laugh: thank you

[Für Elise]

sorry but this thread is funny. it reminds me of that movie quiz show where everyone lept to canonize that guy just cause he apologized

[Rickypt]

Just finished the thread in question that led to this classy apology. What a disgrace.

[greatdarkwing]

I love you, Chris :xoxo: We need to hang soon (And party like rock stars :cool: )

[BTFLCHLD]

lololololol. wow. awww no one has ever said anything as nice as that about you, have they. poor moony needs a hug.

[BTFLCHLD]

Just finished the thread in question that led to this classy apology. What a disgrace. I am glad that you can see that 7wonder thread for what it is...a disgrace.

[GateandGarden]

I am glad that you can see that 7wonder thread for what it is...a disgrace.A disgrace indeed. I'd rank it higher than the conflict in Sudan, the imminent war between the U.S. and Iran, and the increasing number of troops being sent to Iraq.

[Rickypt]

^^Oh please...

Yes, a disgrace. Calling someone stupid and dog sh&%t because they don't post the way you want them to post is disgraceful behavior.

[GateandGarden]

^^Oh please...

Yes, a disgrace. Calling someone stupid and dog sh&%t because they don't post the way you want them to post is disgraceful behavior.I guess if that's how you view the situation... I'm one who thinks Ethan knows exactly what he's doing, and also seriously doubts he isn't David O. or someone else. Even so, enough time on the internet has made me believe in that cliche, "if you can dish it out, you can take it."

But I didn't see where anyone actually called him dogsh&t, anyway.

[SuzeQuze]

I guess if that's how you view the situation... I'm one who thinks Ethan knows exactly what he's doing, and also seriously doubts he isn't David O. or someone else. Even so, enough time on the internet has made me believe in that cliche, "if you can dish it out, you can take it."

But I didn't see where anyone actually called him dogsh&t, anyway.

Once again you appear only to stir the **** pot. You might want to take a look at your motives before pointing fingers at others.

[GateandGarden]

Once again you appear only to stir the **** pot. You might want to take a look at your motives before pointing fingers at others.I don't take any of it that seriously. But I thought I might have a valid point, so I figured I'd throw it out there. If I really wanted to stir things up, I'm sure there are plenty of other things I could do, rather than just simply posting and expressing my opinion.

[HomerMcvie]

rather than just simply posting and expressing my opinion.Gosh, why would you THINK that you could do that, Hillary?:xoxo: Freedom of speech, these days, means ONLY for the speech that's...... approved by the masses.(And NO, JS, I don't mean just here......but everywhere).




Freedom of speech is fine, as long as it's........ within our guidelines. ( AGAIN, Bri Bri, I DON'T necessarily mean "here", before you get...... "all in a bunch")
Political correctness has actually ruined freedom of speech.

[Moony]

awww no one has ever said anything as nice as that about you, have they. poor moony needs a hug.

Oh no, you found me out! Did you use your advanced psychic powers to read my mind? Or maybe your spiritual essence called to my soul.

[xdreamsunwindx]

I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but I kind of think the general sentiment is that we drop the subject and move on, so I'm going to go along with that.

But first, I will give Dano a hug. I looooove yeeeew *hugs*

[SuzeQuze]

I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but I kind of think the general sentiment is that we drop the subject and move on, so I'm going to go along with that.

But first, I will give Dano a hug. I looooove yeeeew *hugs*

Yes Kate, that is exactly the sentiment. Thanks!

[BTFLCHLD]

Did you use your advanced psychic powers to read my mind? Or maybe your spiritual essence called to my soul. Hardly necessary...your needs are obvious. :D

[Sugar]

Gosh, why would you THINK that you could do that, Hillary?:xoxo: Freedom of speech, these days, means ONLY for the speech that's...... approved by the masses.(And NO, JS, I don't mean just here......but everywhere).

Freedom of speech is fine, as long as it's........ within our guidelines. ( AGAIN, Bri Bri, I DON'T necessarily mean "here", before you get...... "all in a bunch")
Political correctness has actually ruined freedom of speech.

Hillary was allowed to express her opinion. From what I can see her post was not removed or altered in any way. Is your point that Suze is not allowed to express her opinion?

As you know, with freedom comes responsibility. No one anywhere, ever, has been totally allowed to say whatever they want ("Fire" in a crowded theatre, and all that). But has it not been a recent campaign of yours to restrict the "freedom of speech" of a certain member whose speech or method thereof you don't approve? I must admit, I find the irony fascinating...

[Moony]

Hardly necessary...your needs are obvious. :D

I hardly need people to make flowery comments about me on a message board to feel good about myself. But by all means, continue with your chodetastic ways. But hey, maybe one of your ~beautifyl~ graphics will help me fully realize my self worth!

[BTFLCHLD]

I hardly need people to make flowery comments about me on a message board to feel good about myself. But by all means, continue with your chodetastic ways. But hey, maybe one of your ~beautifyl~ graphics will help me fully realize my self worth! maybe :xoxo:

[Moony]

maybe :xoxo:

It is to laugh.

But first, I will give Dano a hug. I looooove yeeeew *hugs*

No touchie!

[skcin]

i think i need photographic proof for the laugh factor. please tell me photos exist?

I've seen it with me own two eyes. :nod:






Back on subject - I can't believe you people were over at 7W. :( Traitors. Everyone knows that you can only post on one or the other. :mad: EVERYONE!





:lol:

[strandinthewind]

please tell me you walked in and out of the waldorf like that :laugh:

Honey - I walked out of the Waldorf in five inch, knee high, black leather, platform boots, a burgeoning bustier, a top hat, professionally done make up, and a blond wig tied back. The true highlight was when I came home alone (Chris and the posse left before me and sent the limo back) and I had to bang on the Waldorf door with my tambo. and once they let me in and in sort of a high kick move, put my boot on the front desk to try and get my room out of it (in a knee high skirt made from wrapping a few laters of beaded chiffon around my "waist," which was held in my the force of the corset, which was so tight it left marks on me :eek: ) - all of this while being mostly unable to form a sentence due to alcohol consumption and I think I may have been smoking a cig. My dog was scared of me when I walked into the room. Hell, I was scared of me :laugh:

Chris - feel free to post the pics.

Caveat for vanity - I am like 80 pounds thinner now and no longer look like Wynonna Judd impersonating La Nicks.

On edit - I was right at seven feet tall in this get up - what a fukcing night. Chris - you can post all the pics if you want.

[camchristo]

Oh goody. I can't wait to see pics of this!! :blob1:

[sara1998]

Are some of you really still beating the hell out of this thread? :shrug:

Chris, please show the pictures. I need a laugh.

[jannieC]

Honey - I walked out of the Waldorf in five inch, knee high, black leather, platform boots, a burgeoning bustier, a top hat, professionally done make up, and a blond wig tied back. The true highlight was when I came home alone (Chris and the posse left before me and sent the limo back) and I had to bang on the Waldorf door with my tambo. and once they let me in and in sort of a high kick move, put my boot on the front desk to try and get my room out of it (in a knee high skirt made from wrapping a few laters of beaded chiffon around my "waist," which was held in my the force of the corset, which was so tight it left marks on me :eek: ) - all of this while being mostly unable to form a sentence due to alcohol consumption and I think I may have been smoking a cig. My dog was scared of me when I walked into the room. Hell, I was scared of me :laugh:

Chris - feel free to post the pics.

Caveat for vanity - I am like 80 pounds thinner now and no longer look like Wynonna Judd impersonating La Nicks.

On edit - I was right at seven feet tall in this get up - what a fukcing night. Chris - you can post all the pics if you want.

Okay seriously- we MUST see these pictures. The description is hilarious.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Honey - I walked out of the Waldorf in five inch, knee high, black leather, platform boots, a burgeoning bustier, a top hat, professionally done make up, and a blond wig tied back. The true highlight was when I came home alone (Chris and the posse left before me and sent the limo back) and I had to bang on the Waldorf door with my tambo. and once they let me in and in sort of a high kick move, put my boot on the front desk to try and get my room out of it (in a knee high skirt made from wrapping a few laters of beaded chiffon around my "waist," which was held in my the force of the corset, which was so tight it left marks on me :eek: ) - all of this while being mostly unable to form a sentence due to alcohol consumption and I think I may have been smoking a cig. My dog was scared of me when I walked into the room. Hell, I was scared of me :laugh:

Chris - feel free to post the pics.

Caveat for vanity - I am like 80 pounds thinner now and no longer look like Wynonna Judd impersonating La Nicks.

On edit - I was right at seven feet tall in this get up - what a fukcing night. Chris - you can post all the pics if you want.

so chris sent me one of the photos. i checked my e-mail today and laughed my ass off (thanks, chris!!). you look absolutely priceless. i feel like i have to give you some sort of a drag name -- that's if you don't already have one :cool:

[foxyluva]

Okay seriously- we MUST see these pictures. The description is hilarious.

I second that :D

[carrie721]

i feel like i have to give you some sort of a drag name -- that's if you don't already have one :cool:

stevie mcqueen?

[gldstwmn]

Are some of you really still beating the hell out of this thread? :shrug:

Chris, please show the pictures. I need a laugh.


Okey dokey. :)

[gldstwmn]

In the "Great Room" at The Waldorf Astoria ( which had a magnificent view of the Chrysler Building- Suite 30 H, formerly known as the Hilton family suite. Jason and I perceived other presences there from long ago but I digress:

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[gldstwmn]

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[GardenStateGirlie]

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did i log back on at the right time, or what? :laugh:

did poor mandy think everyone was insane?

[gldstwmn]

The infamous limo ride:

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[gldstwmn]

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[gldstwmn]

So, like, is that enough? :lol:

[Beachwood Mac]

The infamous limo ride:

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And I thought his Mama raised him to be a proper Southern Belle. Obviously they skipped the chapter on how to sit like a lady! :lol: :lol:

[gldstwmn]

did i log back on at the right time, or what? :laugh:

did poor mandy think everyone was insane?

She says "No, kind of, the people at the thing were..." Of course, she loved room service, being driven in a limo or town car everywhere we went, Saks, the hotel, the grand lobby and just NYC in general. I'm going to post a pic of our fab bedroom in just a minute. Gawd we had a ball! :)

[gldstwmn]

The grand entry to Suite 30 H (check out the herringbone floors):

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[The Tower]

I've been away for some time- (Geoffrey and I were in Hawaii for almost two weeks)- however.......

Chris is one of the most principled women on this earth that I have ever had the pleasure to (almost) meet. She was dining at Spago whist Jason was wrapping his arms around me.


Homie you should be ashamed of yourself. I've only read a bit- less-informed maybe.

However, Chris's integrity is nothing to be snorted at....

[GardenStateGirlie]

She says "No, kind of, the people at the thing were..." Of course, she loved room service, being driven in a limo or town car everywhere we went, Saks, the hotel, the grand lobby and just NYC in general. I'm going to post a pic of our fab bedroom in just a minute. Gawd we had a ball! :)

yeah, i probably would have opted to stay at the hotel -- and keep said room service coming as opposed to heading to the actual event. i know the four seasons makes some amazing food so i'm going to go ahead and assume waldorf is on par if not better. then again, to see jason like that in person? i might have to venture out :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Unfortunately what you can't see here is the fireplace in front of my bed or the view of the Chrysler building out of the window to the right. Down that long hallway was Jason's room, with a fab view but I will let him tell that. It's getting late. The picture of this bed makes me sleepy. Night, night:

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[gldstwmn]

yeah, i probably would have opted to stay at the hotel -- and keep said room service coming as opposed to heading to the actual event. i know the four seasons makes some amazing food so i'm going to go ahead and assume waldorf is on par if not better. then again, to see jason like that in person? i might have to venture out :laugh:

Our family breakfast the morning after was incredible. It was in the ballroom, which Hilton had placed a table and chairs in:

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[HomerMcvie]

I've been away for some time- (Geoffrey and I were in Hawaii for almost two weeks)- however.......

Chris is one of the most principled women on this earth that I have ever had the pleasure to (almost) meet. She was dining at Spago whist Jason was wrapping his arms around me.


Homie you should be ashamed of yourself. I've only read a bit- less-informed maybe.

However, Chris's integrity is nothing to be snorted at....

Hey friend, "I" didn't start this thread, or anything related to such, on the Ledge. Perhaps you should find out the FACTS, before you speak.:xoxo:
NO ONE critisized Chris as a person, or as a Ledgie. I like her. Everyone likes her! BUT, if boundaries were overstepped as a moderator, perhaps you should think with your head, rather than your heart, before you start pointing your finger.:angel:

[sara1998]

Jason, you look fab! I love it. Thanks for posting, Chris. Is that Mandy on the far right in the limo??

[JazmenFlowers]

And I thought his Mama raised him to be a proper Southern Belle. Obviously they skipped the chapter on how to sit like a lady! :lol: :lol:
I know, right?

:lol:

[strandinthewind]

so chris sent me one of the photos. i checked my e-mail today and laughed my ass off (thanks, chris!!). you look absolutely priceless. i feel like i have to give you some sort of a drag name -- that's if you don't already have one :cool:

Ms. Sausage Patty :cool:

[strandinthewind]

I know, right?

:lol:

Okay - I had been drinking since noon and it was like 10:00. That I was not supine is a miracle :laugh:

Thanks for posting those!!!! I had such a blast that trip. Then, weren't we in Vegas like two weeks later.

[strandinthewind]

Jason, you look fab! I love it. Thanks for posting, Chris. Is that Mandy on the far right in the limo??

Thank you dahlin'

It is so funny because I am horrified by how fat I was, but it kind of makes the whole deal WAY campier than if I had been thin.

As for the room service - let me just say that they set the table for us and it was divine!

[Sugar]

Wow.:laugh:

I've heard so many references to this night over the years, it's good to finally see the pics. Jason, you are so fab! Larger than life is just the right size! (did I mangle that quote?)

And, Chris, you are totally rockin' the Stevie hair!

[strandinthewind]

Wow.:laugh:

I've heard so many references to this night over the years, it's good to finally see the pics. Jason, you are so fab! Larger than life is just the right size! (did I mangle that quote?)

And, Chris, you are totally rockin' the Stevie hair!

If you would have seen us walking through the lobby - people were taken WAY aback to say the least.

Sadly, I did not know the other Ledgies that were at the event.

The guy at the computer is my very good friend and is also a psychologist (we have therapy sessions over cosmos :eek: ) - he was like - you are going to need medication after this night :laugh:

AND - I got hit on more times in that drag than I can shake stick at and some of them were girls - go figure!

To make the evening complete, the brown haired guy in the blue t-shirt is another good friend of mine and he is realted to Janis Joplin, which just added to the Stevie vibe.

Finally, the view from my room looked at the Chrysler building and also onto the tops of the buildings across Lexington. We could see into people's fab. condos and onto their patios. I think we even saw people working on the roofs of these buildings at these impossible angles.

As an aside, that suite is where the Hilton family lived - or as the bellman referred to it "Ms. Paris' room" -- I kept looking for discarded needles and empty dime bags :laugh:

[Sugar]

If you would have seen us walking through the lobby - people were taken WAY aback to say the least!

I'm so jealous. I love doing that to people. It's the theatre in me.


AND - I got hit on more times in that drag than I can shake stick at and some of them were girls - go figure!


They could see you were in touch with your feminine side. Girls love that. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I'm so jealous. I love doing that to people. It's the theatre in me . . . .

I believe I did a few twirls :eek:

AND - we had my Scottie "Ms. Holiday Laine" with us in the room, which just added to the confusion and mayhem :eek:

[gldstwmn]

Jason, you look fab! I love it. Thanks for posting, Chris. Is that Mandy on the far right in the limo??

Yes, that's her. :)

[JazmenFlowers]

I believe I did a few twirls :eek:

AND - we had my Scottie "Ms. Holiday Laine" with us in the room, which just added to the confusion and mayhem :eek:
it's all about the twirls.

I wish I had photos of the time my dog actually attacked me when I appeared from the bedroom after getting ready to go out one night. :shocked:

[sara1998]

Yes, that's her. :)

She's beautiful, much like her mother.

[skcin]

If you would have seen us walking through the lobby - people were taken WAY aback to say the least.

Sadly, I did not know the other Ledgies that were at the event.

The guy at the computer is my very good friend and is also a psychologist (we have therapy sessions over cosmos :eek: ) - he was like - you are going to need medication after this night :laugh:

AND - I got hit on more times in that drag than I can shake stick at and some of them were girls - go figure!

To make the evening complete, the brown haired guy in the blue t-shirt is another good friend of mine and he is realted to Janis Joplin, which just added to the Stevie vibe.

Finally, the view from my room looked at the Chrysler building and also onto the tops of the buildings across Lexington. We could see into people's fab. condos and onto their patios. I think we even saw people working on the roofs of these buildings at these impossible angles.

As an aside, that suite is where the Hilton family lived - or as the bellman referred to it "Ms. Paris' room" -- I kept looking for discarded needles and empty dime bags :laugh:


Good God, man, you're lucky you didn't catch the crabs. :cool:

[BlackWidow]

Good God, man, you're lucky you didn't catch the crabs. :cool:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ELIUD]

The infamous limo ride:

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I didn't know Peggy Lee was a Stevie fan.
Is that all there is???

[strandinthewind]

I didn't know Peggy Lee was a Stevie fan.
Is that all there is???

:eek: :lol: :lol:

[sparky]

I didn't know Peggy Lee was a Stevie fan.
Is that all there is???

Its the after party of the Clinton inaugural.

[BTFLCHLD]

That limospread is f'kin scary :eek:

[gldstwmn]

She's beautiful, much like her mother.

Thank you. :xoxo:

[amber]

I've been away for some time- (Geoffrey and I were in Hawaii for almost two weeks)- however.......


Bastard. Seriously, you're a bastard. You guys are too pale to possibly enjoy Hawaii. hehehe.




Those pics are hilarious. Thank goodness you captured those moments...

[michelle2677]

Its the after party of the Clinton inaugural.


OMG







:lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

[irishgrl]

It has come to my attention that some of you feel that I am not living up to the title of moderator.
I am only a pm away with your thoughts or suggestions. I will take them seriously and in kind.
I would like to offer my sincerest apolgies to those of you I have been short with, hurt or otherwise harmed.
I am very proud to be affiliated with the best fan board on the net. It is not my wish nor my intention to leave.
In the future I give you my word to operate with a kinder, gentler machine gun hand (IT'S A JOKE! :lol: That's actually a lyric from a Neil Young song.) Seriously though, I feel it is my duty to serve you in the capacity that you so richly deserve.
Namaste'.
Chris Fox aka gldstwmn

whoa....I have been away too long....

but, Im back. so, its all good!

[skcin]

Bastard. Seriously, you're a bastard. You guys are too pale to possibly enjoy Hawaii. hehehe.



I know. Stupid gays & their awesome exotic vacations. I hope you both burned to a crisp. :mad: :p

[amber]

I know. Stupid gays & their awesome exotic vacations. I hope you both burned to a crisp. :mad: :p

Hey, yeah. Where are all the poor gay people? There must not be any, it sure doesn't seem like it. Are they doing that "living well is the best revenge" thing? :laugh:

[The Tower]

Bastard. Seriously, you're a bastard. You guys are too pale to possibly enjoy Hawaii. hehehe.
There's lots to do with Fag Disposable Money besides wasting time trying to get a tan, ya know.....

I know. Stupid gays & their awesome exotic vacations. I hope you both burned to a crisp. :mad: :p
Nope. Sun block SPF 50 and I'm good to go. It even worked with the 2007 Mustang convertible that we rented. I didn't even get pink. :wavey: :p :blob2:

[amber]

There's lots to do with Fag Disposable Money besides wasting time trying to get a tan, ya know.....


Nope. Sun block SPF 50 and I'm good to go. It even worked with the 2007 Mustang convertible that we rented. I didn't even get pink. :wavey: :p :blob2:

I'm so glad you told us about the convertible, bastard. :wavey:

In Hawaii, I wasn't talking about "wasting time getting a tan", I was talking about all the amazing and fun things to do in, around the water, and outside in general.

Hey, do you have pics? I'd love to see some awesome Hawaii bastard pics.

Stupid FDM....

[Rickypt]

I've been away for some time- (Geoffrey and I were in Hawaii for almost two weeks)- however.......


Welcome back. :wavey:

[PsychCat]

I will personally vouch for what you have said. A while ago, we had a HORRIBLE mis-communication and mis-understanding, and you were very open to communicating and to getting it resolved. that allowed me to appreciate and respect you. and move on. If anyone has a "problem" then they do need to attempt to make the effort to have it resolved. Negative energy in the universe is never good, and it has been my experience that Chris is an intelegent and sensable person who can hanlde a situation like an adult.

Wish I could say the same. I have not posted in quite some time because of the incredibly rude and crass abuse of faux-power exhibited by Chris.
And YES, I did PM her to apologize if anything I said was misconstrued and made a peace offering. What did I get? MORE HELL!! I PM'ed again and got more smart-ass remarks. And YES, I agree that there is too much negative energy going around and how did she respond to that? ... basically continued to threaten "calling me out" and taking other actions. Who needs that nonsense?

I was first confused that someone could be such a frickin' jerk in a place where I have totally enjoyed corresponding with others. But that soon turned to pity because some internet message board moderators, I have discovered, are like those people that are real bad asses IN THEIR CAR! And if bossing people around on a message board gives you a feeling of power and control... well, bless your heart.

I truly enjoyed interacting with others about whatever topic, as well as having a place to share stories about talking with Bekka and/or Billy around town.
However, putting up with such nonsense ain't worth it.
Thanks for the apology but it's about patterns vs. incidence and such unpredictability is boring.
Back away from the mouse... get a life. PEACE!! :wavey:

[Moony]

Wish I could say the same. I have not posted in quite some time because of the incredibly rude and crass abuse of faux-power exhibited by Chris.
And YES, I did PM her to apologize if anything I said was misconstrued and made a peace offering. What did I get? MORE HELL!! I PM'ed again and got more smart-ass remarks. And YES, I agree that there is too much negative energy going around and how did she respond to that? ... basically continued to threaten "calling me out" and taking other actions. Who needs that nonsense?

I was first confused that someone could be such a frickin' jerk in a place where I have totally enjoyed corresponding with others. But that soon turned to pity because some internet message board moderators, I have discovered, are like those people that are real bad asses IN THEIR CAR! And if bossing people around on a message board gives you a feeling of power and control... well, bless your heart.

I truly enjoyed interacting with others about whatever topic, as well as having a place to share stories about talking with Bekka and/or Billy around town.
However, putting up with such nonsense ain't worth it.
Thanks for the apology but it's about patterns vs. incidence and such unpredictability is boring.
Back away from the mouse... get a life. PEACE!! :wavey:

Thank you for this post. I find it quite ironic that Ms. Botox gets away with so many insults and personal attacks, but the minute anyone else says something she doesn't agree with, she goes insanely crazy on their ass (including fellow moderators!). Whatever: it's incredibly ridiculous and hypocritical. And her apology rings quite hollow IMO.

Oh well, I guess this is to be expected from The Ledge. Obvsiously, nothing will happen, since the moderators seem to have a free pass when it comes to board etiquette.

[foxyluva]

Wish I could say the same. I have not posted in quite some time because of the incredibly rude and crass abuse of faux-power exhibited by Chris.
And YES, I did PM her to apologize if anything I said was misconstrued and made a peace offering. What did I get? MORE HELL!! I PM'ed again and got more smart-ass remarks. And YES, I agree that there is too much negative energy going around and how did she respond to that? ... basically continued to threaten "calling me out" and taking other actions. Who needs that nonsense?

I was first confused that someone could be such a frickin' jerk in a place where I have totally enjoyed corresponding with others. But that soon turned to pity because some internet message board moderators, I have discovered, are like those people that are real bad asses IN THEIR CAR! And if bossing people around on a message board gives you a feeling of power and control... well, bless your heart.

I truly enjoyed interacting with others about whatever topic, as well as having a place to share stories about talking with Bekka and/or Billy around town.
However, putting up with such nonsense ain't worth it.
Thanks for the apology but it's about patterns vs. incidence and such unpredictability is boring.
Back away from the mouse... get a life. PEACE!! :wavey:

When this whole thread started, you were the first person I thought of who had been affected by all this. What she did to you sucks, and was a huge over reaction. Please don't stop posting because of that :)

[strandinthewind]

Ms. Botox

Now who is being insulting. That was a personal attack and uncalled for. You would not like it if someone did the same to you :shrug:

[SuzeQuze]

whoa....I have been away too long....

but, Im back. so, its all good!

I missed you, nice to see you back.

[SuzeQuze]

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As far as strand in drag goes, I'm speechless! :lol: Gldy, I knew you were fabulous, I have that same gold shawl/poncho. Love it.

[SuzeQuze]

Thank you for this post. I find it quite ironic that Ms. Botox gets away with so many insults and personal attacks, but the minute anyone else says something she doesn't agree with, she goes insanely crazy on their ass (including fellow moderators!). Whatever: it's incredibly ridiculous and hypocritical. And her apology rings quite hollow IMO.

Oh well, I guess this is to be expected from The Ledge. Obvsiously, nothing will happen, since the moderators seem to have a free pass when it comes to board etiquette.

Well, she had the grace to apologize you could have the grace to accept or take a pass. But you've instead chosen to hurl an insult. Don't forget that moderating here is done on a volunteer basis. Lately it's felt like baby-sitting and that gets very old very quickly.

[irishgrl]

I missed you, nice to see you back.

Wow! Thanx Suze, that means a lot to me :nod:

[Moony]

Now who is being insulting. That was a personal attack and uncalled for. You would not like it if someone did the same to you :shrug:
Did you ever object to gldstwmn's own personal attacks on various members of this board?

Don't forget that moderating here is done on a volunteer basis. Lately it's felt like baby-sitting and that gets very old very quickly.
I keep that well in mind, which is why I find it appalling/hilarious when a mod goes on a complete power trip.

I can see I'm in the minority here. That's fine.

[JazmenFlowers]

I have a question.

why did this go to a regular thread vs. sticky? honestly just curious.

[SuzeQuze]

I have a question.

why did this go to a regular thread vs. sticky? honestly just curious.

We have enough stickies, right Curt? Plus once everyone saw it there really wasn't a reason to keep it up top like that.

[Miss Vicky]

I can see I'm in the minority here. That's fine.

That minority is not as small as you think. It's just unfortunate that so few of us are willing to say something about it.

[strandinthewind]

Did you ever object to gldstwmn's own personal attacks on various members of this board?

I do not remember seeing any. But, let me state here and now that if she did, she was wrong.

Do you not see that calling someone "Ms. Botox" - particularly here where you did it out of the blue - not only is rude, but beneath you? If not, then so be it.

Do you really hate her that much so that you lower yourself to the very level you you accuse her of?

[strandinthewind]

That minority is not as small as you think. It's just unfortunate that so few of us are willing to say something about it.

I think calling someone out for what you perceive as a wrong is fine. But, attacking someone on a personal level that is irrelevant to the discussion is crossing the line and against the rules.

For example, what does Chris' use of Botox have to do with addressing what is perceived as a wrong. The answer is it has nothing to with it. It is used a tool to attack on a personal level, which is just wrong.

Finally, if she apologized, why not just let it go at that. What personal stake do you have in this so that you want to argue it to death. Wouldn't it be easier just to ignore it. Just a suggestion.

[Miss Vicky]

I think calling someone out for what you perceive as a wrong is fine.

I never said that I agreed with Moony's use of a personal attack (hell, I wasn't even aware that Chris had used Botox). I merely pointed out that there are many of us who agree that there is a problem, but some have chosen not to speak out about it.

I don't have a personal stake in this, except to say that I frequent the forums in which she moderates. At no point have I ever said that Chris has done anything to me. In fact, in my messages to JohnnyStew and the aministration, I stated as such. However I firmly believe that her misconduct towards other members of these boards has gone on too long and to far too much of an extreme. If she cannot handle herself in a manner that is fitting of her position, perhaps she should reconsider keeping that position.

[sparky]

Lord Have Mercy. I have no real opinions re: this particular tempest in an e-pot. However, I can say that Chris has always been nice to me. And I may not be President of Moony's fan club (I was never notified of any elections), but I would certainly consider myself at the very least an honorary board member of said organization. Odd. Seems I like everybody.:laugh:
At least in this situation. I usually hate everybody.

[carrie721]

I usually hate everybody.

word. :laugh:

:xoxo:

[sparky]

word. :laugh:

:xoxo:

Heh. You are intimately aware of my lists.:blob1: :blob1:

:wavey:

[BTFLCHLD]

Ms. Botox <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/66.gif">

[strandinthewind]

Heh. You are intimately aware of my lists.:blob1: :blob1:

:wavey:

Because your kiss (YOUR KISS) is on my list . . . :wavey:

Also, I like Moony too - I was just taken aback by the botox comment.

Speaking of botox, my friend had it in his eye and it deadened the nerve to that he looks as if he cannot open his eyelid. Fortunately, it will wear off in a few more weeks.

[Für Elise]

jealot

whats that?

[DeadliestPoison]

whats that?

probably the same thing as a ~jealhead~

someone needs a new thesaurus :(

[michelle2677]

That minority is not as small as you think. It's just unfortunate that so few of us are willing to say something about it.

I think there are several different problems going on in this thread. And I don't care to address any of them because what is it going to accomplish, really ? Probably nothing. :distress:

[HomerMcvie]

I think there are several different problems going on in this thread. And I don't care to address any of them because what is it going to accomplish, really ? Probably nothing. :distress:

Although I wish you'd discuss how you feel about it, I do think you're right. It ain't gonna change nothin'.

[michelle2677]

Although I wish you'd discuss how you feel about it, I do think you're right. It ain't gonna change nothin'.

well, you may NOT want me to. I may not be on your side :laugh: :p ;) j/k

anyway. it's pointless. basically pissing in the ocean to get the tide to rise. :shrug: eh. whatever.
what happened to your sig?



I would like add-Psychcat-It seems like a lot of us have missed you around, so please continue to post :wavey:

[The Tower]

I'm so glad you told us about the convertible, bastard. :wavey:
It has a TON of freeking horsepower and it's so beautiful driving around Maui with the top down. :nod:

In Hawaii, I wasn't talking about "wasting time getting a tan", I was talking about all the amazing and fun things to do in, around the water, and outside in general.
The Four Seasons is such an awesome hotel. Much more impressive than the places in Kauai. Then again, Kauai is a Hawaii's "Hicksville".

Hey, do you have pics? I'd love to see some awesome Hawaii bastard pics.
I might. We didn't take very many pictures this time around and I used one of them disposable cameras. The piece of **** got wet, so I'm hoping it's still good.

Stupid FDM....
:p :p :p



Welcome back. :wavey:
:xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo:

[gldstwmn]

I think calling someone out for what you perceive as a wrong is fine.

It is as long as it does not get personal. Calling someone out on their bull**** is fine and should be present in any healthy relationship. It's also a two way street. Healthy debate is something the founders of this site encourage and support.

[gldstwmn]

Wish I could say the same. I have not posted in quite some time because of the incredibly rude and crass abuse of faux-power exhibited by Chris.
And YES, I did PM her to apologize if anything I said was misconstrued and made a peace offering. What did I get? MORE HELL!! I PM'ed again and got more smart-ass remarks. And YES, I agree that there is too much negative energy going around and how did she respond to that? ... basically continued to threaten "calling me out" and taking other actions. Who needs that nonsense?

I was first confused that someone could be such a frickin' jerk in a place where I have totally enjoyed corresponding with others. But that soon turned to pity because some internet message board moderators, I have discovered, are like those people that are real bad asses IN THEIR CAR! And if bossing people around on a message board gives you a feeling of power and control... well, bless your heart.

I truly enjoyed interacting with others about whatever topic, as well as having a place to share stories about talking with Bekka and/or Billy around town.
However, putting up with such nonsense ain't worth it.
Thanks for the apology but it's about patterns vs. incidence and such unpredictability is boring.
Back away from the mouse... get a life. PEACE!! :wavey:

PsychCat, you inferred in a thread about Saddam Hussein that the members who were participating in the thread were uninformed about the atrocities he'd commited. I vigorously rebutted your point. It wasn't the first time I had noticed your pattern of little hit and run jobs like that. So I called you on it. I'm sorry if that hurt your feelings. I have now apologized not once but twice. You can choose to hold on to your anger if that is serving you, which it seems to be or you can let it go. I tried to end on a positive note with you in my last pm to you. I really am at a loss for anything else to say.
Namaste'.

[BTFLCHLD]

PASSION OF THE CHRIST!!! :distress:

Chris...henceforth, your apologies should be written in blood and scanned for all to see! :lol:

[estranged4life]

I usually hate everybody.

(Sarcastically) "I'm not a racist...I hate everyone!" :rolleyes:

[JazmenFlowers]

We have enough stickies, right Curt? Plus once everyone saw it there really wasn't a reason to keep it up top like that.
oh ok. :|

[gldstwmn]

The Four Seasons is such an awesome hotel. Much more impressive than the places in Kauai.

You lucky bastard! :laugh: I have wanted to go there forever. It sounds like you guys had a great time. :)

[PsychCat]

PsychCat, you inferred in a thread about Saddam Hussein that the members who were participating in the thread were uninformed about the atrocities he'd commited.
First of all, and I'll say it again... I was NOT referring to people on these boards and the fact that you find it necessary to PERSONALIZE everything not only makes my earlier point but that of obviously many others.

With that, I have to add that while this particular thread may be about your own atrocities... the website and message boards ARE NOT.
Speaking for myself, I have been a fan of FLEETWOOD MAC (remember them?) for over 30 years and I came here BECAUSE OF THEM. I absolutely love talking with the other fans about the different eras and line-ups. That is one of the amazing beauties of this band is that while they changed... they stayed the same. I may not agree with everyone and they may not agree with me BUT we all get along and are cool with it. Stevie vs. Bekka .... Lindsey vs. Billy... Rumours vs. Time ... etc, etc. Bottom line is we all have a great appreciation for FLEETWOOD MAC.

THANK YOU to all who have written/posted that my absence was noticed. And my feelings were not "hurt" (don't flatter yourself, Chris) but I was surprised to find such an ego amongst the boards... let alone one considered a "moderator". And if you are here to just give everyone some level of hell, PLEASE display an ounce of integrity and do the FLEETWOOD MAC fans a favor by stepping-down as "moderator". I'm realistic and realize that will never happen for obvious reasons. :laugh:

[michelle2677]

With that, I have to add that while this particular thread may be about your own atrocities... the website and message boards ARE NOT.
Speaking for myself, I have been a fan of FLEETWOOD MAC (remember them?) for over 30 years and I came here BECAUSE OF THEM. I absolutely love talking with the other fans about the different eras and line-ups. That is one of the amazing beauties of this band is that while they changed... they stayed the same. I may not agree with everyone and they may not agree with me BUT we all get along and are cool with it. Stevie vs. Bekka .... Lindsey vs. Billy... Rumours vs. Time ... etc, etc. Bottom line is we all have a great appreciation for FLEETWOOD MAC.


I'm sorry, but not to take away from your post but......what message board have YOU been visiting?? :laugh: :lol: ;) :p

ok. carry on :)

[strandinthewind]

. . . With that, I have to add that while this particular thread may be about your own atrocities . . . .

atrocious

Main Entry: atro·cious
Pronunciation: &-'trO-sh&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin atroc-, atrox gloomy, atrocious, from atr-, ater black + -oc-, -ox (akin to Greek Ops eye) -- more at EYE
1 : extremely wicked, brutal, or cruel : BARBARIC
2 : APPALLING, HORRIFYING <the atrocious weapons of modern war>
3 a : utterly revolting : ABOMINABLE <atrocious working conditions> b : of very poor quality <atrocious handwriting>
- atro·cious·ly adverb
- atro·cious·ness noun

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/atrocious
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I think you are taking getting into a pissing war with Chris a little too seriously :laugh:

What was that you said about backing away from the mouse?

[strandinthewind]

Here is a link to the SH thread.

You said, regarding SH's execution, buh by and then:

hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.


to which Chris responded:

Thanks for letting us all know that we don't know enough about Saddam. I've been alive during his entire reign and know full well what an evil asshole he was. Our president is no different. I, for one will not stop bashing him here on this board or anywhere else for that matter. If you don't like the subject matter, you're free to ignore it.


The foregoing is hadly an atrocity :shrug:

you responded:

Thank you for your response.


to which she replied:

Anytime. We may joke around but this board contains a very intelligent, politically aware group of people. For you to insinuate that we don't know what we are talking about is insulting and I hope you realize that.

I fail to see the harm here other than the response to your rather patronizing post about people forgetting and needlessly bashing W, who the evidence clearly indicates manipulated the intelligence to force the war. If you have other evidence, let's see it.

Then you replied - apparently acknowledging that your original post was offensive in application but not intent - though it was placed in the middle of W bashers who presumably would be included in your revised definition:

I would like to publicly APOLOGIZE to anyone who may have been offended by anything I said/wrote.
I think the world of coming to these boards and chatting with y'all.
I was not speaking of anyone one in general... it's just that there is already so much low energy (ie, hate and dissention) in the world and I suppose I let me ego do the typing. When I said "everyone" I meant everyone everywhere... not just you guys. SORRY for any misunderstanding.
And I better end on that note.
Again... I apologize and welcome any personal notes in response. Thanks!


Then, Chris accepted your apology by saying:

Alright then, let's move on. His exectuion was videotaped and is going to be disseminated amongst the Iraqi people. We'll probably get at least the still photographs with our Sunday papers.

Again, this hardly seems to be an atrocity :shrug:

Here is a link to the thread

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=30542

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So, I am unsure how that thread supports your proposition that Chris is on an ego trip.

I am not attacking you. I am just trying to understand where you are coming from :)

[DeadliestPoison]

I'm sure Chris can hold her own, Jason. God knows she's done it before.

[HomerMcvie]

I'm sure Chris can hold her own, Jason. God knows she's done it before.
I think so too. And I'm not trying to keep this going, but I would like everyone to think about this:
I believe a moderator should be held to a different standard than everybody else. That said, no one is critisizing Chris as a person, a Ledgie, or a friend. Her friends are all coming to her aid, which is quite admirable, but, again, we're not critiquing(sp) her as a friend. We're looking at the JOB of moderator, and if improprieties exist. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing personal. And the others mods could certainly benefit from this examination. Dontcha think? JMO.

[irishgrl]

methinks the Homester is angling for a pre-St. Patty's day brewsky! :eek: :p :xoxo:

[irishgrl]

^^^^^^
which, if you think about it, isnt a bad idea at ALL! :woohoo: :thumbsup:

[strandinthewind]

I think so too. And I'm not trying to keep this going, but I would like everyone to think about this:
I believe a moderator should be held to a different standard than everybody else. That said, no one is critisizing Chris as a person, a Ledgie, or a friend. Her friends are all coming to her aid, which is quite admirable, but, again, we're not critiquing(sp) her as a friend. We're looking at the JOB of moderator, and if improprieties exist. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing personal. And the others mods could certainly benefit from this examination. Dontcha think? JMO.

I agree - but, then we are back to my question, which is what was so awful about the exchange I posted when considered by that higher standard :shrug:

I think her reply to you on the 7W board was meant in jest, but it came across to you in a different way, which we all know happens a bunch when the written word is all we have. In any event, she apologized here.

In the posts I quoted above, Psychcat apologized for the same kind of misconception and Chris accepted it and moved on. To me, that was the right thing to do for a moderator or anyone else.

[strandinthewind]

methinks the Homester is angling for a pre-St. Patty's day brewsky! :eek: :p :xoxo:

I need one now as well :laugh:

Sadly, I am not boozing it up during Lent :(

Come April 8th - it ain't gonna be pretty :thumbsup:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I'm sure Chris can hold her own, Jason. God knows she's done it before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/meadowsoprano/natliedeenetcop.jpg

[irishgrl]

To me, that was the right thing to do for a moderator or anyone else.

Alrighty Then! When Quinn the Eskimo gets here, everybody's gonna jump for joy!!!!!!


(this non-sequitur brought to you courtesy of the eternally optimistic, pre-St Patrick's day faithful!)

[irishgrl]

I need one now as well :laugh:

Sadly, I am not boozing it up during Lent :(

Come April 8th - it ain't gonna be pretty :thumbsup:

ya know, somehow I just knew that :nod:

carry on my wayward son........

[HomerMcvie]

I agree - but, then we are back to my question, which is what was so awful about the exchange I posted when considered by that higher standard :shrug:

I think her reply to you on the 7W board was meant in jest, but it came across to you in a different way, which we all know happens a bunch when the written word is all we have. In any event, she apologized here.

In the posts I quoted above, Psychcat apologized for the same kind of misconception and Chris accepted it and moved on. To me, that was the right thing to do for a moderator or anyone else.
My biggest problem with the whole thread, is the other members, who can't read the criticisms without jumping in the opposite direction.

I don't know why anyone would want to be a mod! When Seven Wonders first opened it's doors, they asked me. I politely, and quickly, declined.;)

[HomerMcvie]

methinks the Homester is angling for a pre-St. Patty's day brewsky! :eek: :p :xoxo:

Homie's as sober as a judge!













A condition that I intend to remedy in a couple of hours!:thumbsup: :lol:

[irishgrl]

Homie's as sober as a judge!













A condition that I intend to remedy in a couple of hours!:thumbsup: :lol:

yeah but Ive heard about those JUDGES!

[strandinthewind]

My biggest problem with the whole thread, is the other members, who can't read the criticisms without jumping in the opposite direction.

I agree. I think people get too defensive. Such, I guess, is human nature.

I don't know why anyone would want to be a mod! When Seven Wonders first opened it's doors, they asked me. I politely, and quickly, declined.;)

LOL - they asked me, I accepted - and then got canned :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

LOL - they asked me, I accepted - and then got canned :laugh:

Why'd they can you?

[ontheEdgeof17]

LOL - they asked me, I accepted - and then got canned :laugh:

I did, too! :laugh: We suck.

[strandinthewind]

Why'd they can you?

I called someone a stupid Cee U Next Tuesday :eek:

Just joking - I was not there enough, which was cool and fair.

[strandinthewind]

I did, too! :laugh: We suck.

And, I bought that cocky mother fukcer cocktails, dinner, and late night ice cream in Vegas :mad: :mad: :mad:

Just joking - he was correct in letting me go :cool:

[HomerMcvie]

I called someone a stupid Cee U Next Tuesday :eek:

Just joking - I was not there enough, which was cool and fair.

I wondered about that. And that's the first thing I thought, "How much time is this going to require of me?":lol:

[strandinthewind]

I wondered about that. And that's the first thing I thought, "How much time is this going to require of me?":lol:

For the limited time I was there, I do not remember ever calling anyone out. It would take a whole lot for me to do that :laugh:

[irishgrl]

I wondered about that. And that's the first thing I thought, "How much time is this going to require of me?":lol:

well, what about the loss of your right arm and your one good eye?

[irishgrl]

For the limited time I was there, I do not remember ever calling anyone out. It would take a whole lot for me to do that :laugh:
BULL!
All they have to do is praise Clinton and awaaaaaaaay you go!

[michelle2677]

methinks the Homester is angling for a pre-St. Patty's day brewsky! :eek: :p :xoxo:

I'm pre-tuning for the Kentucky basketball game.


mostly so i can get through it without crying :distress:


so everyone, let's drink and be merry for one night!!!:blob2: :blob2:

[strandinthewind]

BULL!
All they have to do is praise Clinton and awaaaaaaaay you go!

I mean as a moderator telling someone to shut the fukc up - you commie femi-nazi!

WHO LOVES YA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:] :]

[irishgrl]

I mean as a moderator telling someone to shut the fukc up - you commie femi-nazi!

WHO LOVES YA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:] :]

so Jason, do you wax/shave or are you a hairy ape? its ok, you're among FRIENDS!

and, Ive decided that in this day and age, being a Commie Femi-Nazi is actually PC. considering the alternative......

[strandinthewind]

so Jason, do you wax/shave or are you a hairy ape? its ok, you're among FRIENDS!

and, Ive decided that in this day and age, being a Commie Femi-Nazi is actually PC. considering the alternative......

I groom. Actually, for awhile, I had it professionally done :wavey:

Isn't the alt. just a Nazi :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

do the FLEETWOOD MAC fans a favor by stepping-down as "moderator". I'm realistic and realize that will never happen for obvious reasons. :laugh:

Well, at least you are right about this last part. :lol:

[gldstwmn]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/meadowsoprano/natliedeenetcop.jpg

Awww...that hurts babe. I'm a liberal Democrat and so anti cop...:lol: :xoxo:

[irishgrl]

Awww...that hurts babe. I'm a liberal Democrat and so anti cop...:lol: :xoxo:

but Chris: dont you think the LIberals have their cop spies? come ON!

[gldstwmn]

but Chris: dont you think the LIberals have their cop spies? come ON!

It doesn't jibe with my hippie/gypsy/paranormal vibe. Cop is such a government word. I don't like it. :(:sorry:

[irishgrl]

It doesn't jibe with my hippie/gypsy/paranormal vibe. Cop is such a government word. I don't like it. :(

well, pre 1980, I would agree. post 1980, I think they all became consultants. Plus, my crystal ball said that as soon as the ice started melting, we'd all unite. Word.

[gldstwmn]

well, pre 1980, I would agree. post 1980, I think they all became consultants. Plus, my crystal ball said that as soon as the ice started melting, we'd all unite. Word.

It began with Reagan. So yes, you are correct.

[irishgrl]

It began with Reagan. So yes, you are correct.
between you and me, I usually am. Dont Tell Jason tho, he'd have a coronary.

[estranged4life]

It began with Reagan.

I was in 5th grade, on the day Reagan was shot, I was one of the group of kids (Mostly poor white & black kids) who stood and applauded in Mrs.Cliff's class at his shooting & was sent to the principal's office for being "disrespectful to the office of President."

[irishgrl]

I was in 5th grade, on the day Reagan was shot, I was one of the group of kids (Mostly poor white & black kids) who stood and applauded in Mrs.Cliff's class at his shooting & was sent to the principal's office for being "disrespectful to the office of President."


I remember you said this once before (bravely, I thot)
I was right there with you, my friend. cheering when I heard the news and depressed when I learned he survived. Sad but true.
my best bud said he would line his toilet with a pic of Reagan so that when he took a dump he'd think of him........this was the same night he committed suicide.

[amber]

Bless your legal mind for finding this. May I fetch your coffee? :laugh: (Not really).
From reading all the info and perspectives, this was exactly the kind of exchange I thought might exist. I had little knowledge of the situtation before that. I did suspect that Chris was being at least a bit more logical then others' accounts indicated. I don't know about everything, but at least in this exchange, there was no abuse of power that I can see. In fact, the whole thing seems polite, logical, and...resolved? I don't understand why psychat is mad now if she was fine at the end of this exchange.
But perhaps this explains why many people who don't post hardly at all brought it up and are complaining about it. I infer from your comments that you would be much more involved with the board if you didn't feel so opressed? That makes me sad. I didn't realize you guys wanted to post so much, and Chris was holding you back. I hope her apology had made you feel more comfortable, and we'll be seeing a lot of you. :woohoo: I know I've missed Moony quite a bit, and, uh, the rest of you seem cool, too. :)

Ms. Botox? I can't believe you said that. I...I loved you once...*sigh* :laugh:
Naw, not that dramatic, I just think it was Meany Mclame. I'm actually suprised you said that. And try and pretend that you'll age gracefully. I know what that central valley sun does, Moony. :cool: And P.S.? You are officially uninvited to my first botox party. And there will be cute guys there. :laugh: :wavey:
Here is a link to the SH thread.

You said, regarding SH's execution, buh by and then:

Quote:
hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.

to which Chris responded:

Quote:
Thanks for letting us all know that we don't know enough about Saddam. I've been alive during his entire reign and know full well what an evil asshole he was. Our president is no different. I, for one will not stop bashing him here on this board or anywhere else for that matter. If you don't like the subject matter, you're free to ignore it.

The foregoing is ha[r]dly an atrocity
you responded:


Quote:
Thank you for your response.

to which she replied:

Quote:
Anytime. We may joke around but this board contains a very intelligent, politically aware group of people. For you to insinuate that we don't know what we are talking about is insulting and I hope you realize that.

I fail to see the harm here other than the response to your rather patronizing post about people forgetting and needlessly bashing W, who the evidence clearly indicates manipulated the intelligence to force the war. If you have other evidence, let's see it.

Then you replied - apparently acknowledging that your original post was offensive in application but not intent - though it was placed in the middle of W bashers who presumably would be included in your revised definition:

Brill.

Quote:
I would like to publicly APOLOGIZE to anyone who may have been offended by anything I said/wrote.
I think the world of coming to these boards and chatting with y'all.
I was not speaking of anyone one in general... it's just that there is already so much low energy (ie, hate and dissention) in the world and I suppose I let me ego do the typing. When I said "everyone" I meant everyone everywhere... not just you guys. SORRY for any misunderstanding.
And I better end on that note.
Again... I apologize and welcome any personal notes in response. Thanks!

Then, Chris accepted your apology by saying:

Quote:
Alright then, let's move on. His exectuion was videotaped and is going to be disseminated amongst the Iraqi people. We'll probably get at least the still photographs with our Sunday papers.

Again, this hardly seems to be an atrocity

Here is a link to the thread

[carrie721]

Bless your legal mind for finding this. May I fetch your coffee? :laugh: (Not really).

oh my god, it was bad enough when atticus quoted it all the first time.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[irishgrl]

Bless your legal mind for finding this. May I fetch your coffee? :laugh: (Not really).
From reading all the info and perspectives, this was exactly the kind of exchange I thought might exist. I had little knowledge of the situtation before that. I did suspect that Chris was being at least a bit more logical then others' accounts indicated. I don't know about everything, but at least in this exchange, there was no abuse of power that I can see. In fact, the whole thing seems polite, logical, and...resolved? I don't understand why psychat is mad now if she was fine at the end of this exchange.
But perhaps this explains why many people who don't post hardly at all brought it up and are complaining about it. I infer from your comments that you would be much more involved with the board if you didn't feel so opressed? That makes me sad. I didn't realize you guys wanted to post so much, and Chris was holding you back. I hope her apology had made you feel more comfortable, and we'll be seeing a lot of you. :woohoo: I know I've missed Moony quite a bit, and, uh, the rest of you seem cool, too. :)

Ms. Botox? I can't believe you said that. I...I loved you once...*sigh* :laugh:
Naw, not that dramatic, I just think it was Meany Mclame. I'm actually suprised you said that. And try and pretend that you'll age gracefully. I know what that central valley sun does, Moony. :cool: And P.S.? You are officially uninvited to my first botox party. And there will be cute guys there. :laugh: :wavey:
Here is a link to the SH thread.




















Brill.

but your point was? do you even know? or did it get lost in translation? after all, we WERE speaking Gaelic...........or at least SOME of us were.......
so THANK YOU Amber, for yet again fluffing our collective pillows. yes.

[amber]

oh my god, it was bad enough when atticus quoted it all the first time.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe legal minds really are born...*she said overdramatically*

No, but I really was looking for something like that, I wanted to know what the actual conversation was. She said/she said doesn't tell you much. And thank god he has the patience, cause you won't find me searching back through threads. :laugh:


Hehehehe "Atticus" heeeheeehee. :laugh:

[irishgrl]

Maybe legal minds really are born...*she said overdramatically*

No, but I really was looking for something like that, I wanted to know what the actual conversation was. She said/she said doesn't tell you much. And thank god he has the patience, cause you won't find me searching back through threads. :laugh:


Hehehehe "Atticus" heeeheeehee. :laugh:
somebody unfortunately hid the remote from these two............sad, very sad.

[gldstwmn]

I was in 5th grade, on the day Reagan was shot, I was one of the group of kids (Mostly poor white & black kids) who stood and applauded in Mrs.Cliff's class at his shooting & was sent to the principal's office for being "disrespectful to the office of President."


Jesus Brian, kudos to you for having the cojones to admit that in this day and age.

[HomerMcvie]

This is like talking to Black Dildo!:shocked: :rolleyes:

[gldstwmn]

This is like talking to Black Dildo!:shocked: :rolleyes:

Take it like a man honey. :xoxo:

[HomerMcvie]

Take it like a man honey. :xoxo:

But you don't really answer any questions. Just fluff-fluff to your friends. I find that confusing, for a mod.:confused: If you can dish it, you oughta be able to stand behind it. JMO.

[strandinthewind]

I remember you said this once before (bravely, I thot)
I was right there with you, my friend. cheering when I heard the news and depressed when I learned he survived. Sad but true.
my best bud said he would line his toilet with a pic of Reagan so that when he took a dump he'd think of him........this was the same night he committed suicide.


Sorry about the suicide, but that dump logic is fabulous!

I would never cheer when another human being is harmed in aviolent act. imagine the outrage if I cheered if Sadie Fields got raped because maybe then she would quit spewing her hate.

In the end, I think RR did some very bad things. He was not one of my favorite people. Having said that and though you all despise him and his low approval ratings in much of his term - he died very well liked. Go figure.

[strandinthewind]

This is like talking to Black Dildo!:shocked: :rolleyes:

Who is black dildo?