Prince Charles calls for 'ban' on McDonald's

[gldstwmn]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1447319.ece

The Prince of Wales threw his weight into the debate about healthy eating today and told a nutritionist that the “key” was to ban McDonald’s fast food restaurants.

The controversial remarks were made as the Prince was in Abu Dhabi attending the launch of a public health awareness campaign aimed at fighting diabetes in the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

He visited the Imperial College London Diabetes Centre and watched as a group of children chose from a selection of “good” and “bad” snacks for their school packed lunches.

Talking to Nadine Tayara, a nutritionist from the centre who had put the children through their paces, he asked her: “Have you got anywhere with McDonald’s? Have you tried getting it banned? That’s the key.”

A McDonald’s spokeswoman said Charles’s remark was “disappointing”.

Other members of his family had visited the chain, she said, and “have probably got a more up-to-date picture of us.”

The spokeswoman added: “This appears to be an off-the-cuff remark, in our opinion. It does not reflect our menu or where we are as a business.”

Charles was clearly unaware of some of the moves the company has made, she said, such as improved labelling, supporting sustainable agriculture and nutritional changes with choice and variety.

In August 2005 Prince Harry popped into a McDonald's for a "buy one get one free" meal. He is reported to have bought two chicken burgers and a strawberry milkshake, eating the meal on the pavement outside.

His brother, Prince William, was pictured queuing up for a meal at McDonald’s in January 1992.

A Clarence House spokesman, travelling with the Prince and Duchess on their ten-day tour of the Gulf, later issued a statement.

It said: “The Prince of Wales has for a long time advocated the importance of a balanced diet, especially for children. In visiting the diabetes centre today, he was keen to emphasise the need for children to enjoy the widest variety of food and not to eat any particular sort of food to excess.”


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[Sarah]

And they felt the need to call up a McDonald's spokeswoman?

Newswriters are so stupid, I swear.

(disclaimer: I, myself, am actually a newswriter.)

[ontheEdgeof17]

Srsly.


I don't think fast food is that bad. It becomes bad when you eat it, every day for every meal. Moderation is the key. Eating a Big Mac once a week isn't going to kill you or make you fat. :cool:

[DrummerDeanna]

And they felt the need to call up a McDonald's spokeswoman?

Newswriters are so stupid, I swear.

(disclaimer: I, myself, am actually a newswriter.)

:lol: Me too...and yes, newswriters are so stupid. I don't know what kind of media you work in, but thankfully I don't have to deal with crap like this...at least that offers some consolation :o

[Johnny Stew]

McDonald's doesn't need to be banned -- people just need to stop being whiny losers and start accepting personal responsibility. No one's shoving those burgers and fries into anyone's mouths... it's a choice whether or not we eat them.

Not to mention the fact that it's FAST FOOD and was never meant to be a staple of anyone's diet -- something that any common garden-variety idiot should know.

When I was a kid, we had McDonald's maybe once a month as a treat. Now people eat it like it's one of the four food groups.

[Sarah]

I don't know what kind of media you work in, but thankfully I don't have to deal with crap like this...at least that offers some consolation :o

Radio.

And no, I don't really have to deal with this kind of -who gives a crap about this story- crap.. but radio media does have its own kind of crap to deal with. Like the fact that everybody wants to kiss the newspaper's ass. Because, you know, they can totally update every hour and bring in breaking news with 3 minutes notice just like radio can. Right? Wronggggg. grumblegrumblecusscuss.

Sorry if you work in newspaper. I've done that too. It's just that.. I can honestly say it sucks and I hate it.

[DrummerDeanna]

Radio.

And no, I don't really have to deal with this kind of crap.. but radio media does have its own kind of crap to deal with. Like the fact that everybody wants to kiss the newspaper's ass. Because, you know, they can update every hour of every day like radio can, right? Wronggggg.

Sorry if you work in newspaper. I've done that too. I can honestly say it sucks and I hate it.

Nope, I'm in radio too :wavey: And thankfully, we don't have too much newspaper ass kissing. We're a pretty independent little operation, which I like.

I've never worked in newspaper, and I've never heard anything good from anyone who has :laugh:

[amber]

People should take responsibility, but I also don't see anything at all wrong with banning McDonalds. It would be great. It's not like anyone would die or starve if it didn't exist.

[Sarah]

Nope, I'm in radio too :wavey: And thankfully, we don't have too much newspaper ass kissing. We're a pretty independent little operation, which I like.

I've never worked in newspaper, and I've never heard anything good from anyone who has :laugh:

We bought out our competition a few years back, so really, it's all been downhill since then. We act like we try to compete with the newspaper, but in my town, the people who own the newspaper own the bank. They sit on all the commissions and boards, and they've got the police and sheriff wrapped around their pinkies. I like it when they give the newspaper a pre-release so they can make their 11 AM printing deadline, but make us wait until 6 PM (after everybody gets home and reads the paper) to get full details. I stick in little jabs when I can. Dispatchers have pretty much learned to avoid the phrases "I don't know" and "I'm not sure". Like an armed robbery a few weeks ago. We knew it had happened.. radio stations in neighboring counties got BOLOs from their sheriff's department and told us. So, I call, and they're like, "Welllllll, we've got detectives on the scene, but I don't know anything else." So I'm like, "Well, do you know if it was a robbery?" "Wellll, I don't know"..click. My story? "Information from neighboring Sheriff's department in blahblah county says an armed robbery suspect wanted for holding up a local pharmacy..blahblahblahblah.. officials at the local sheriff's department said that they did not know if a robbery had actually taken place." LOL!!!!! bwaahahaha. heehee. ha. cough. The sad part is that they totally knew.. even the TBI was called.. they had a suspect description, car description, direction of travel, how much he'd taken, and the fact that the pharmacist herself actually shot at the suspect. And he wants to say he didn't know? F the po-leece.

It's a nice laid-back job most of the time, though, that's for sure. If you like to write at your own pace, it's for you, because newspaper is totally up-yr-butt kind of work. "Done yet?" "Done yet?" "Are you done yet?" "Can I have that yet?" "Is it done?" "I gotta have that by.."

[bretonbanquet]

People should take responsibility, but I also don't see anything at all wrong with banning McDonalds. It would be great. It's not like anyone would die or starve if it didn't exist.

Absolutely. I don't think people, even Prince Charles, should be slated for saying that certain things should be banned - he's entitled to his opinion, apparently. I think more stuff should be banned anyway, starting with everything I don't like :)

[skcin]

I love Quarter Pounders. Sooooooo bad, yet sooooooo good. :angel:

[Johnny Stew]

People should take responsibility, but I also don't see anything at all wrong with banning McDonalds. It would be great. It's not like anyone would die or starve if it didn't exist.I guess I just don't like to be told what I can and cannot eat, simply because other people don't have the willpower or intelligence to know when to stop stuffing their fat faces.

I gained weight. No secret. But I didn't gain weight through the fault of anyone else. I'm responsible for my weight gain, and if and when I chose to lose it, that'll be my responsibility too.

[carrie721]

Absolutely. I don't think people, even Prince Charles, should be slated for saying that certain things should be banned - he's entitled to his opinion, apparently. I think more stuff should be banned anyway, starting with everything I don't like :)

i wuv you! :xoxo:

[michaelD]

Anybody see Supersize Me?
I know that's not the point of the thread, but it's pretty good documentary
on the whole thing...

[danax6]

People should take responsibility, but I also don't see anything at all wrong with banning McDonalds. It would be great. It's not like anyone would die or starve if it didn't exist.Personally, I'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia without a McDonalds nearby, but I think that ultimately banning fast food from the world would be a better thing, yes.

[strandinthewind]

People should take responsibility, but I also don't see anything at all wrong with banning McDonalds. It would be great. It's not like anyone would die or starve if it didn't exist.

Not to mention, McDonald's specifically markets their menu structure at kids who come home to no parents in the more urban areas. Put it this way, what is the McDonald's in you area like between 3 and 6 in the afternnon. Every one I see has school kids in it and they have about $5.00 to spend, which is exactly where McDonald's menu is at.

In the end, there is nothing on the menu there that, when eaten every day, is in any way great for you. So, yes, eaten in moderation it is okay. But, when kids go there everyday essentially out of necessity, it is a bad thing.

[Johnny Stew]

Not to mention, McDonald's specifically markets their menu structure at kids who come home to no parents in the more urban areas. Put it this way, what is the McDonald's in you area like between 3 and 6 in the afternnon. Every one I see has school kids in it and they have about $5.00 to spend, which is exactly where McDonald's menu is at.Banning anything should never be the response to bad parenting.

[Sarah]

Not to mention, McDonald's specifically markets their menu structure at kids who come home to no parents in the more urban areas. Put it this way, what is the McDonald's in you area like between 3 and 6 in the afternnon. Every one I see has school kids in it and they have about $5.00 to spend, which is exactly where McDonald's menu is at.

Kind of like when the government introduced crack to the ghetto, huh? ;) Slimy bastards.

Ah, forget it. Nevermind.

[Sarah]

Banning anything should never be the response to bad parenting.

I disagree with you there. Heterosexuals should be banned as a result of bad parenting.

[skcin]

Anybody see Supersize Me?
I know that's not the point of the thread, but it's pretty good documentary
on the whole thing...

Yes. :shocked: That's why I eat at McDonald's about twice a year now, compared to my previous couple times a month.

[carrie721]

Banning anything should never be the response to bad parenting.

i think calling that situation bad parenting is a gross oversimplification. :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

Banning anything should never be the response to bad parenting.

True - but that is a bit of non-reality there. In many urban areas, you are dealing with a single mom who works two jobs and lives in govt. sub. housing. I think the vast majority of those mom's are trying their best, but they cannot be there when the kids get home. So, in a perfect world, yes it is bad parenting. But, in that scenario, which I have seen first hand, what else are they going to do?

[Johnny Stew]

I disagree with you there. Heterosexuals should be banned as a result of bad parenting.Stupid breeders ruin it for everyone!

[carrie721]

I disagree with you there. Heterosexuals should be banned as a result of bad parenting.

omg. your response is so much better. :laugh:

i'm glad you're posting more often. :wavey: you're funny!

[strandinthewind]

Yes. :shocked: That's why I eat at McDonald's about twice a year now, compared to my previous couple times a month.

I had not eaten it in awhile and I had a Big Mac and fries - I could not finish it and it kind of made me sick while eating it. I also noticed the size of the meat patty was a little like AOL size :laugh: Seriously, it was this little peice of meat hidden in this huge bun. I was like "this is a rip off" because my meat used to be much larger than this.

[Sarah]

Stupid breeders ruin it for everyone!

lol! I almost said "breeders" instead of "heterosexuals", but took it back last minute. Glad it got thrown in there anyway. ;)

And thanks Carrie. I have no idea why I've started posting more recently. I guess work is just ultra boring lately! That's okay, I'm getting paid for this. :lol:

[Johnny Stew]

i think calling that situation bad parenting is a gross oversimplification. :shrug:I don't deny that.
But there's also something to be said for not bringing children into this world if you can't afford to raise them.

My mother wanted five kids... her and Dad could only afford two, so that's all they had.

[skcin]

I had not eaten it in awhile and I had a Big Mac and fries - I could not finish it and it kind of made me sick while eating it. I also noticed the size of the meat patty was a little like AOL size :laugh: Seriously, it was this little peice of meat hidden in this huge bun. I was like "this is a rip off" because my meat used to be much larger than this.


OMG. :shocked: You poor thing!

ROTFLMAO! :lol:

[bretonbanquet]

I don't deny that.
But there's also something to be said for not bringing children into this world if you can't afford to raise them.


There's a hell of a lot to be said for that, but unfortunately too many people don't agree, or are too dumb to care :shrug: Hold on, this is where I start on about sterilising the stupid... :laugh:

[carrie721]

I don't deny that.
But there's also something to be said for not bringing children into this world if you can't afford to raise them.

My mother wanted five kids... her and Dad could only afford two, so that's all they had.

in a perfect world, you are right, and i think that's the case the majority of the time. but i know enough people who have fallen on hard times they couldn't have anticipated to stop me from saying/thinking that.

OMG. :shocked: You poor thing!

ROTFLMAO! :lol:

i was gonna say - wasn't impotence one of the things the supersize me dude suffered from? :D

[strandinthewind]

OMG. :shocked: You poor thing!

ROTFLMAO! :lol:

On occasion I can beat amusing :angel:

[strandinthewind]

There's a hell of a lot to be said for that, but unfortunately too many people don't agree, or are too dumb to care :shrug: Hold on, this is where I start on about sterilising the stupid... :laugh:

Or putting an under the skin drug like Norplant in all girls 21 and under so no stupid girl under 21 gets knocked up.

[DrummerDeanna]

There's a hell of a lot to be said for that, but unfortunately too many people don't agree, or are too dumb to care :shrug: Hold on, this is where I start on about sterilising the stupid... :laugh:

And this is where I'd agree with you :lol:

[Johnny Stew]

There's a hell of a lot to be said for that, but unfortunately too many people don't agree, or are too dumb to care :shrug: Hold on, this is where I start on about sterilising the stupid... :laugh:I'd have to agree with you there. I've often said there should be some sort of Parenting-Intelligence Quotient test, to determine your suitability for breeding. If you fail... snip-snip!

[estranged4life]

Hold on, this is where I start on about sterilising the stupid... :laugh:

Please don't sterlize the stupid, Hollywood needs more whiny Limousine-liberals and the White House need more durn-fool-idgits FUBARing the U.S. onto the brink of WWIII.

Remember, Even 'Buddy Christ' loves the stupid!!!

<div align=left><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/music3/rhiannon/Buddy-Christ.jpg"><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/music3/rhiannon/Buddy-Christ.jpg"><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/music3/rhiannon/Buddy-Christ.jpg"></div><div align=center>Stupid is as America does

[carrie721]

I'd have to agree with you there. I've often said there should be some sort of Parenting-Intelligence Quotient test, to determine your suitability for breeding. If you fail... snip-snip!

i'm all for this. :cool:

[Johnny Stew]

in a perfect world, you are right, and i think that's the case the majority of the time. but i know enough people who have fallen on hard times they couldn't have anticipated to stop me from saying/thinking that.Don't get me wrong -- I'm not talking about people who've fallen on hard times. No one can ever anticipate that.

I'm talking about people who are born in poverty, grow up in poverty, then have kids who suffer the same fate.

There are some chains you should break.

[amber]

I guess I just don't like to be told what I can and cannot eat, simply because other people don't have the willpower or intelligence to know when to stop stuffing their fat faces.

I gained weight. No secret. But I didn't gain weight through the fault of anyone else. I'm responsible for my weight gain, and if and when I chose to lose it, that'll be my responsibility too.

I don't disagree. I just also think McDonald's is pretty useless. It's not like people wouldn't have any delicious things to stuff their face with without it. Also, millions of acres of forest could be saved instead of being turned into grazing land. In theory.

[Sarah]

McDonald's really doesn't appeal to me. Honestly, I really only go when I have a craving for Dr. Pepper. Is that weird? I guess I could buy a 2-liter or something, but it's way better from the fountain.. and available in the drive-thru.

Which, there's something else that irks me. Thru. Why do people do this? Yes, it's shorter..but this is the tradition of written language we're talking about bastardizing here. WTF mate? **

**"wtf mate?" refers to funniest cartoon ever, found at endofworld.net (http://www.endofworld.net)

[danax6]

i'm glad you're posting more often. :wavey: you're funny!So let me see if I get this right...you're only allowed to post when you're funny? :shrug: :lol:

[carrie721]

McDonald's really doesn't appeal to me. Honestly, I really only go when I have a craving for Dr. Pepper. Is that weird? I guess I could buy a 2-liter or something, but it's way better from the fountain.. and available in the drive-thru.

Which, there's something else that irks me. Thru. Why do people do this? Yes, it's shorter..but this is the tradition of written language we're talking about bastardizing here. WTF mate? **

**"wtf mate?" refers to funniest cartoon ever, found at endofworld.net (http://www.endofworld.net)

i said wtf mate to my friend the other day and she didn't get it. i was mightily pissed.

[amber]

McDonald's really doesn't appeal to me. Honestly, I really only go when I have a craving for Dr. Pepper. Is that weird? I guess I could buy a 2-liter or something, but it's way better from the fountain.. and available in the drive-thru.

Which, there's something else that irks me. Thru. Why do people do this? Yes, it's shorter..but this is the tradition of written language we're talking about bastardizing here. WTF mate? **
[/SIZE]

We should form a club.

[Johnny Stew]

Which, there's something else that irks me. Thru. Why do people do this? Yes, it's shorter..but this is the tradition of written language we're talking about bastardizing here. WTF mate?I don't know exactly when I started, but for a long time, I would use the "thru" spelling. I knew it wasn't the correct spelling, of course, but I really liked the way it looked. So I used it.

Then Nancy (sodascouts) pointed out to me that she was surprised someone who loves the English language as much as I do, would continually use the incorrect spelling of something. So out of shame, I switched back to "through." :o :laugh:

I do still like to sometimes use "wanna," "gonna," "alright," etc., for effect.

[DrummerDeanna]

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not talking about people who've fallen on hard times. No one can ever anticipate that.

I'm talking about people who are born in poverty, grow up in poverty, then have kids who suffer the same fate.

There are some chains you should break.

*applauds*


Oh and I forgot to mention...I grew up on McDonalds. My grandma took me there aaaall the time, I don't know how I was not an obese child..but anyway...I'll always have a soft spot for Quarter Pounders with Cheese.

[Sarah]

So let me see if I get this right...you're only allowed to post when you're funny? :shrug: :lol:

Yes. Unspoken Ledge Rule #3. Posting is only tolerated when the poster (not to be confused with postee) is funny. Or pissed.

DIDN'T YOU KNOW???? It's been that way since '97!

[Sarah]

We should form a club.

(Wuh-Oh. Mitch Hedberg quote opportunity.)

OK, but we need some more stipulations. Instead of cutting the sandwich once, let's cut it again. Yes, four triangles, arranged in a circle, and in the middle we will dump chips. Or potato salad.

How do you feel about frilly toothpicks?
I'm for 'em!

Well, this club is formed.

[estranged4life]

when I hear about McDonald's is the following:

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[DrummerDeanna]

when I hear about McDonald's is the following:

<div align=center><img src="http://www.angelfire.com/music3/rhiannon/Burger-King.gif"></div>

If that Burger King King didn't scare the BEJEEZUS out of me I'd find that wildly amusing. Instead, I think I'm now going to have nightmares. I really hate him :eek:

[estranged4life]

If that Burger King King didn't scare the BEJEEZUS out of me I'd find that wildly amusing. Instead, I think I'm now going to have nightmares. I really hate him :eek:

since he is the center of a family joke. Even my young niece & nephew are prevy to the family joke :nod:

Hell, I have bobble-heads of the King on my stereo equipment :lol:

All hail the King...

[carrie721]

So let me see if I get this right...you're only allowed to post when you're funny? :shrug: :lol:

yes. in other words, shut the hell up, vanessa. adding :lol: 's after your own post doesn't make it funny. :D

:laugh:

just kidding, you're hella funny, and that IS the rule, so you're allowed to post. :thumbsup:

[danax6]

Yes. Unspoken Ledge Rule #3. Posting is only tolerated when the poster (not to be confused with postee) is funny. Or pissed.

DIDN'T YOU KNOW???? It's been that way since '97!I know, I was totally making fun of her. (Which is also a rule, though frowned upon and preferably not discussed publically. I probably violated a lot of things saying this right now).

:lol: <-- for carrie.

[chiliD]

McDonald's doesn't need to be banned -- people just need to stop being whiny losers and start accepting personal responsibility. No one's shoving those burgers and fries into anyone's mouths... it's a choice whether or not we eat them.

In a way, yes, in a way, no.

If they'd put healthy items on their $1 menu, then I'd say that they're making strides. But, when the cheapest "health-conscious" item on the menu is $3.99, that makes it prohibitive for people who can't afford anything more than whatever's on the $1 menu.

So, in their view, only people who are in the moderate & higher income & can be healthy, but poor people aren't worthy of healthy eating.

[carrie721]

I know, I was totally making fun of her. (Which is also a rule, though frowned upon and preferably not discussed publically. I probably violated a lot of things saying this right now).

:lol: <-- for carrie.

bitch. :laugh:

[danax6]

bitch. :laugh:I love you too.

[Johnny Stew]

In a way, yes, in a way, no.

If they'd put healthy items on their $1 menu, then I'd say that they're making strides. But, when the cheapest "health-conscious" item on the menu is $3.99, that makes it prohibitive for people who can't afford anything more than whatever's on the $1 menu.

So, in their view, only people who are in the moderate & higher income & can be healthy, but poor people aren't worthy of healthy eating.You make an excellent point, Steve.

Although it must be said that "health food" is, in general, more expensive than less healthy food.
That doesn't make it right, of course, but it's not something that's exclusive to McDonald's.

[carrie721]

I love you too.

i'm sorry, i don't know if that's supposed to be funny, since there are no laughies after it.

:D

^ that means i'm being cheeky. :angel:

[danax6]

i'm sorry, i don't know if that's supposed to be funny, since there are no laughies after it.

:D

^ that means i'm being cheeky. :angel:I hope you're happy that I am now carefully contemplating every single smiley I include. I do agree though that it's bad to laugh at your own jokes, so I will refrain from including a laughing smiley whenever I make a joke. There.

[carrie721]

I hope you're happy that I am now carefully contemplating every single smiley I include. I do agree though that it's bad to laugh at your own jokes, so I will refrain from including a laughing smiley whenever I make a joke. There.

:laugh: i'm kidding! i laugh at all my own jokes. please don't stop on my account. :laugh:

^see?

:laugh:

^see?

:laugh:

[danax6]

:laugh: i'm kidding! i laugh at all my own jokes. please don't stop on my account. :laugh:

^see?

:laugh:

^see?

:laugh::laugh:

I'll consider not contemplating.

[carrie721]

:laugh:

I'll consider not contemplating.

i'll ponder that.

[DrummerDeanna]

****. Now I want a Quarter Pounder.

[goldustsongbird]

****. Now I want a Quarter Pounder.

My eyes say yes, but my thighs say no...

[DrummerDeanna]

My eyes say yes, but my thighs say no...

Exactly :lol: Actually it's my ass that's saying no :p

[HomerMcvie]

****. Now I want a Quarter Pounder.
Me too. My second favorite sandwich, next to Arby's Beef and Cheddar.

When I worked at McD's, while in school, my I'd make my favorite QP......I'd use the tiny onions that are on the regular hamburgers and Big Macs. Of course that's against McD's rules(and NO rules are ever to be broken), so I'd only do it when the manager took a break! Damn I'm hungry now......:shocked:

[goldustsongbird]

Exactly :lol: Actually it's my ass that's saying no :p

:laugh: My ass cries (haha) when I so much as look at a McDonalds. Actually, you know... I don't like McD so much. Burger King is where it's at. I don't feel like a bloated freak after eating there.

[DrummerDeanna]

Me too. My second favorite sandwich, next to Arby's Beef and Cheddar.

When I worked at McD's, while in school, my I'd make my favorite QP......I'd use the tiny onions that are on the regular hamburgers and Big Macs. Of course that's against McD's rules(and NO rules are ever to be broken), so I'd only do it when the manager took a break! Damn I'm hungry now......:shocked:

I always take the onions out. I don't ask for "no onions" though because I like the ghost flavor of the onions, without the actual onions :lol:

I like McDonalds..I won't hide it anymore, once in a while it's a nice treat, their fries are, by far, my favorite.

Burger King is ok...but McD's is my preferred bad food...I'm sure nostalgia plays some part in that.

[HomerMcvie]

^^^Yep, me too. McDonald's kicks the King's ass! I don't like the flame broiling, I guess. I'm not much on french fries, though. Never have been. They're okay, but I'd MUCH rather have a second sandwich, than fries.:o :o :o :o

[HomerMcvie]

And McD's fish is the BEST!:blob1: :blob1: :blob1:

[DrummerDeanna]

^^^Yep, me too. McDonald's kicks the King's ass! I don't like the flame broiling, I guess. I'm not much on french fries, though. Never have been. They're okay, but I'd MUCH rather have a second sandwich, than fries.:o :o :o :o

:laugh: Here's another "my grandma is stupid" story - as she's the one who basically fed me nothing BUT McDonalds. Once, I think I was 9 or 10, I asked if I could get a second hamburger, and being the grandma she was, she let me.

My mom almost murdered her when she found she let me eat two McDonalds' burgers...

I can't even believe I was ABLE to! Gawd, one stuffs me...I guess I was a little piggy girl...I seriously don't know how I didn't weigh 500 pounds :lol:

[goldustsongbird]

And McD's fish is the BEST!:blob1: :blob1: :blob1:

Eww. They have pretty good coffee, though.

[Für Elise]

In August 2005 Prince Harry popped into a McDonald's for a "buy one get one free" meal. He is reported to have bought two chicken burgers and a strawberry milkshake, eating the meal on the pavement outside.

His brother, Prince William, was pictured queuing up for a meal at McDonald’s in January 1992.that's brilliant. it's like a monty python news report

[Für Elise]

You make an excellent point, Steve.

Although it must be said that "health food" is, in general, more expensive than less healthy food.
That doesn't make it right, of course, but it's not something that's exclusive to McDonald's.I don't think so. I can buy about 4 meals worth of vegetables for the price of a meal at mcdonalds

[carrie721]

I don't think so. I can buy about 4 meals worth of vegetables for the price of a meal at mcdonalds

absolutely.

the idea that healthy food is expensive is ridiculous. if you don't buy food that's prepackaged, preportioned, and processed, you can eat cheaply and healthfully.

[Johnny Stew]

the idea that healthy food is expensive is ridiculous. if you don't buy food that's prepackaged, preportioned, and processed, you can eat cheaply and healthfully.I meant food that is "quick and easy," like that at McDonald's... which was what chiliD was referring to.

I do have to add, though, that when I was on the South Beach Diet, it was definitely more expensive to buy all of the low-fat, low/no-carb stuff that you're required to eat, then it is to just buy regular food.

[HomerMcvie]

Eww. They have pretty good coffee, though.
I can't believe you don't like McD's fish. It's the best! That steamed bun.....and the best tartar sauce ANYWHERE! Remember a few years ago, they tried to Deluxe it up. They put it on a seeded bun, and added lettuce, and raised the price.:mad: :mad: :mad: It only lasted about a year, then they went back to the old school fish!:blob1: :blob1: :blob1:

And they're on sale now, but I'm trying to drop 15-20 lbs, so I've not had one, YET.

[goldustsongbird]

I can't believe you don't like McD's fish. It's the best! That steamed bun.....and the best tartar sauce ANYWHERE! Remember a few years ago, they tried to Deluxe it up. They put it on a seeded bun, and added lettuce, and raised the price.:mad: :mad: :mad: It only lasted about a year, then they went back to the old school fish!:blob1: :blob1: :blob1:

And they're on sale now, but I'm trying to drop 15-20 lbs, so I've not had one, YET.

Sick, dude. :mad: I also don't like their egg mc's. I've totally gone off of most of Micky D's stuff. All the salt.. blaaahfjhg....

[HomerMcvie]

^^^I LOVE McD's, but only eat it about once a month. Although, if I'm away from home, it ends up being my lunch, almost every day. McD's, or Rallys/Checkers.

[danax6]

I can't believe you don't like McD's fish. It's the best! That steamed bun.....and the best tartar sauce ANYWHERE! YES. It's the only thing I ever order.

[carrie721]

I meant food that is "quick and easy," like that at McDonald's... which was what chiliD was referring to.

I do have to add, though, that when I was on the South Beach Diet, it was definitely more expensive to buy all of the low-fat, low/no-carb stuff that you're required to eat, then it is to just buy regular food.

well, naturally those specific diets are going to be more expensive. you should go on the "carrie eats healthy for $20/week" diet. :thumbsup: i'm serious, it works. :laugh:

[goldustsongbird]

well, naturally those specific diets are going to be more expensive. you should go on the "carrie eats healthy for $20/week" diet. :thumbsup: i'm serious, it works. :laugh:

Are you going to market that? ;) And how come you're never on MSN anymore, ho?

[carrie721]

Are you going to market that? ;) And how come you're never on MSN anymore, ho?

now i am :D

[sparky]

I thought that South Beach thing was all chicken fish and vegetables?

[carrie721]

I thought that South Beach thing was all chicken fish and vegetables?

i think that's the basis of it, yeah. so really, you could do it cheaply. but if you buy their special SBD frozen dinners & ****, then it gets expensive.

i've got cheap & healthy eating down to a fine art. it's all about nuts, legumes, chicken, tuna, and veggies. oh, and peanut butter. and apples.

speaking of apples, i broke my apple slicer in an apple yesterday. now i'm a little scared of the other 3 apples i bought at the same time.

[Johnny Stew]

I thought that South Beach thing was all chicken fish and vegetables?No, not totally. They're a part of it though.

Plus, I don't eat fish -- or seafood of any kind for that matter -- so that's automatically scratched off the list of choices for me.

[Johnny Stew]

i've got cheap & healthy eating down to a fine art. it's all about nuts, legumes, chicken, tuna, and veggies. oh, and peanut butter. and apples.I guess I just can't imagine feeling satisfied eating those things. I only "kind of" like chicken -- once a week is plenty for me. If even that often. And, like I said, I don't eat seafood.
So I don't think I could possibly eat enough vegetables and nuts (and twigs and berries) to not be left hungry.

I'd starve. :o

[amber]

I guess I just can't imagine feeling satisfied eating those things. I only "kind of" like chicken -- once a week is plenty for me. If even that often. And, like I said, I don't eat seafood.
So I don't think I could possibly eat enough vegetables and nuts (and twigs and berries) to not be left hungry.

I'd starve. :o

Can't you eat lean ground beef, or another lean red meat? :confused: Like, if your dinner was a nice venison steak, a great action packed salad? Or a hamburger made with the leanest, grass fed ground beef, lettuce and tomato and everything on it...with a salad? (I like salad). I also make great, tasty, healthful burritos with fake meat or lean ground beef. Lots of people like ground turkey...:shrug: put some lettuce, tomato, salsa, onions on that...mmmm....soup is good, too, you like soup? Also if you add a tasty fruity dessert, it seems like you would be full.
I've known a lot of people like you, they don't realize the delicious possibilities because they kind of already have a mindset about it, and/or they haven't really tried it. I spot them because they tend to use the phrase "twigs and berries", which is a scoffish term for things that are good for you and can be very delicious. I actually don't know anyone who eats "twigs", and I like berries a lot.
I know you did South Beach, though.

Carrie, don't be trying to call that healthy on $20/a week the Carrie diet...:rolleyes: :laugh: Poser. :angel:

[DavidMn]

What an idiotic statement Prince CHarles made!:mad: Hey I'm heavy becasue I've eaten irresponsibly over the years, but is that the fault of the resturant? NO! I made the choice to eat there when I did.

[gldstwmn]

Anybody see Supersize Me?
I know that's not the point of the thread, but it's pretty good documentary
on the whole thing...

Yes I saw it and it grossed me out.

[amber]

What an idiotic statement Prince CHarles made!:mad: Hey I'm heavy becasue I've eaten irresponsibly over the years, but is that the fault of the resturant? NO! I made the choice to eat there when I did.

Yes, poor defenseless McDonalds....

[gldstwmn]

I thought that South Beach thing was all chicken fish and vegetables?

I've got the book. If you've got a personal chef, it'll work out great. Otherwise, who the hell has time to cook like that?

[gldstwmn]

i think that's the basis of it, yeah. so really, you could do it cheaply. but if you buy their special SBD frozen dinners & ****, then it gets expensive.



I honestly believe that a person cannot lose weight eating processed food, which is exactly what any type of frozen dinner is. :(

[Johnny Stew]

I've known a lot of people like you, they don't realize the delicious possibilities because they kind of already have a mindset about it, and/or they haven't really tried it. I spot them because they tend to use the phrase "twigs and berries", which is a scoffish term for things that are good for you and can be very delicious.I do what I can, as far as eating healthy -- though certainly not as much as I could. Obviously.

I guess the old saying is true, you have to want to do something. Honest to God, Amber, I admit I am exceedingly stubborn when it comes to this stuff. I'm usually a pretty level-headed, rational person -- but when it comes to eating right and exercising, my mind screams "PUNISHMENT!!!"

I look at all the people who say, "ohh, I'd love to have a Big Mac -- but I can't because I'm watching what I eat," or "I'm so hungry for bread right now, but it's not allowed on my diet," and I think "no freakin' way -- I'm eating what I want and when I want it."
Which I know is not really the right attitude.

Anyway, like I said, I know that it's my fault that I've gained weight. I also know what I need to do to lose it. I'm just not in the mindframe right now to want to.

And I still think McDonald's doesn't need to be banned. ;)

[amber]

I do what I can, as far as eating healthy -- though certainly not as much as I could. Obviously.

I guess the old saying is true, you have to want to do something. Honest to God, Amber, I admit I am exceedingly stubborn when it comes to this stuff. I'm usually a pretty level-headed, rational person -- but when it comes to eating right and exercising, my mind screams "PUNISHMENT!!!"

I look at all the people who say, "ohh, I'd love to have a Big Mac -- but I can't because I'm watching what I eat," or "I'm so hungry for bread right now, but it's not allowed on my diet," and I think "no freakin' way -- I'm eating what I want and when I want it."
Which I know is not really the right attitude.

Anyway, like I said, I know that it's my fault that I've gained weight. I also know what I need to do to lose it. I'm just not in the mindframe right now to want to.

And I still think McDonald's doesn't need to be banned. ;)

:laugh:


"no freakin' way -- I'm eating what I want and when I want it."

That's what I think almost all the time, too, and I kind of think in part it is the right attitude. The thing is wanting to eat different things. I don't eat things that are good for me that I don't like. Except, of course, for the unrefined Coconut Oil...
I mean, think about strawberries. Strawberries are SO GOOD, plus they're really good for you. Who wouldn't want to eat them? There is tons of food like that.
I'm lucky in that I like to exercise, and that I have to in order to get places (:laugh: ) but I still have to push myself to do it many times. And I eat like a poor white trash pig many times, as well. :laugh: Last weekend most of my dietary intake was from the cheese and cracker and cookie groups. But I know that I also like to eat healthy food, so, you know, whatever.

And there is still overwhelming evidence that the entire natural world and humans would be way, way better off without McDonalds. ;)

:wavey:

[HomerMcvie]

^^^Tru dat, BUT, we'd also be much better off without alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and all illegal drugs(not even mentioning all the foods that are terrible for us). Where do you draw the line, as a free thinking individual? Do you want choice, or not?:shrug:







Let's start by outlawing cigarettes!:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:

[amber]

^^^Tru dat, BUT, we'd also be much better off without alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and all illegal drugs(not even mentioning all the foods that are terrible for us). Where do you draw the line, as a free thinking individual? Do you want choice, or not?:shrug:







Let's start by outlawing cigarettes!:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:

None of those things has even close to the catastrophic affect on the environment, which is mainly what I was talking about. Human health is cool, but not really at the top of my concerns to a point. Also, I can still eat hamburgers if McD's shuts down, so I do have choice. And I, personally, think drugs should be legal.

[HomerMcvie]

^^^Hmm, heroin legal, but hamburgers not. Oh wait, you're not outlawing hamburgers, only McDonald's restaurants!:cool: ;) :p What's next?

[amber]

^^^Hmm, heroin legal, but hamburgers not. Oh wait, you're not outlawing hamburgers, only McDonald's restaurants!:cool: ;) :p What's next?

I'm sorry you don't really get it, but...
it makes sense to me, though you may talk about it like it is odd. Although making meth is really bad for the environment, too, so that is bad. To me it really isn't our god given choice to be able to go to McDonalds. Where is the choice of whatever lives in entire ecosystems that are destroyed, which incidentally, is the same ecosystem that supports us?
To me, the "choice" of being able to go to McDonalds has so little value, and does so much damage, that I simply wouldn't care if it was banned.

[carrie721]

Carrie, don't be trying to call that healthy on $20/a week the Carrie diet...:rolleyes: :laugh: Poser. :angel:

:p it is the carrie diet. and yours is the amber diet.

I honestly believe that a person cannot lose weight eating processed food, which is exactly what any type of frozen dinner is. :(

i think you can lose weight, i just don't know how sustainable it would be.

[markolas]

Someone needs to explain to me this $20 a week thing. Let's see a copy of your grocery list. :laugh: I spend $40-$60 a week. And you're not buying any processed food?

[carrie721]

Someone needs to explain to me this $20 a week thing. Let's see a copy of your grocery list. :laugh: I spend $40-$60 a week. And you're not buying any processed food?

no processed foods. i buy just enough to eat 1500 cal/day. these days i spend more like $25/week because i got a raise at work. :laugh: i don't buy really expensive stuff like cereal or bread, and the only prepackaged thing i buy these days are kashi trail mix granola bars. and occasionally i get morningstar fake chicken patties or black bean burgers, but those are expensive. usually i buy seven apples, enough romaine lettuce to make seven salads (and i don't buy the pre-cut mixes, either, just straight romaine), whole grain pasta (usually buy it when it's on sale, though, in larger quantities), eggs, soy milk, vanilla yogurt (one of the larger containers), almonds, etc. sometimes i buy extras like olive oil or coconut oil or seasonings, whenever i start running out, but that's not a weekly thing. $20/week is possible!

[markolas]

no processed foods. i buy just enough to eat 1500 cal/day. these days i spend more like $25/week because i got a raise at work. :laugh: i don't buy really expensive stuff like cereal or bread, and the only prepackaged thing i buy these days are kashi trail mix granola bars. and occasionally i get morningstar fake chicken patties or black bean burgers, but those are expensive. usually i buy seven apples, enough romaine lettuce to make seven salads (and i don't buy the pre-cut mixes, either, just straight romaine), whole grain pasta (usually buy it when it's on sale, though, in larger quantities), eggs, soy milk, vanilla yogurt (one of the larger containers), almonds, etc. sometimes i buy extras like olive oil or coconut oil or seasonings, whenever i start running out, but that's not a weekly thing. $20/week is possible!

You don't buy cereal or bread??? What are you eating for breakfast? A granola bar? I'd pass out before 10am if that's all I had! Seriously, if all I had to eat in a day was a granola bar, a salad, and a fake chicken patty, I would not be able to function. And I'd probably be fired from my job because I strangled the first person who tried to talk to me.

[carrie721]

You don't buy cereal or bread??? What are you eating for breakfast? A granola bar? I'd pass out before 10am if that's all I had! Seriously, if all I had to eat in a day was a granola bar, a salad, and a fake chicken patty, I would not be able to function. And I'd probably be fired from my job because I strangled the first person who tried to talk to me.

i'm going to respond to this and johnny stew's earlier post that he would starve:

that's not all i eat. :shrug: i mean, jesus christ, what do you people expect? :laugh: you asked how i eat on $20/week, and i told you. it's not that crazy, i've done it for months (aside from the entire month of february, but that's another story). i love food, i am totally an emotional eater (see february), but i decided to lose weight. in order to do that, you have to cut calories. :shrug:

no, i don't eat cereal. it's expensive , especially if you want to get the kind that doesn't have high fructose corn syrup and a whole bunch of other processed crap that's bad for you. and i do! i eat eggs and yogurt for breakfast. maybe a couple almonds. grand total: 300 cals. then i have a salad. depending on what i put on it, that can be up to 150 cals. apple and peanut butter: 300 calories. whole wheat pasta and pasta sauce: 300 calories. almonds, dried cranberries, crackers (ok, i buy crackers): 300 calories. and at some point during the day i usually have a granola bar, which is 140 calories.

which brings me to a grand total of 1490 calories, and that, in addition to exercising every day, is how i have lost over 30 pounds.

if you want to lose weight cheaply, that's how you do it. if you don't want to lose weight, then fine! eat whatever the hell you want. and if you don't want to do it on $20 a week, then fine! but it can be done, and you asked, so i told you. i'm not crazy for not buying bread or cereal - that **** is high in carbs and calories. i'm looking to get the most out of my dollar and my calories.

[JazmenFlowers]

i'm looking to get the most out of my dollar and my calories.
me too. I try to eat between 1200-1400 cals a day and I eat similar to the way you do. and I don't want to break the bank either. it's like...the more harmful stuff they take out, the more they charge you. doesn't make sense.

anyway, I do eat cereal on occasion and bread 3-4 times a week.

[strandinthewind]

I honestly believe that a person cannot lose weight eating processed food, which is exactly what any type of frozen dinner is. :(

Well, they can lose weight if the frozen selcetions reduce the caloric intake. In other words, if you eat three 300 calorie Lean Cuisines every day for a month, you will lose weight. The deal breaker there is that few people can sustain such a rigid plan and when they go back to real food, they likely will go way over the 1,000 or so calories a day and their body will horde the fat, etc.

[carrie721]

me too. I try to eat between 1200-1400 cals a day and I eat similar to the way you do. and I don't want to break the bank either. it's like...the more harmful stuff they take out, the more they charge you. doesn't make sense.

anyway, I do eat cereal on occasion and bread 3-4 times a week.

i eat cereal on occasion, too, but i only eat bread these days if i have a sandwich at work. and then, it's only half a sandwich, because two pieces of bread is, like, 240 calories. it's crazy. so i take one piece of bread, put some turkey, colby, tomato, lettuce, mustard, and a smidge (smidge!) of mayo, and it's 300 cals. perfecto.

[JazmenFlowers]

i eat cereal on occasion, too, but i only eat bread these days if i have a sandwich at work. and then, it's only half a sandwich, because two pieces of bread is, like, 240 calories. it's crazy. so i take one piece of bread, put some turkey, colby, tomato, lettuce, mustard, and a smidge (smidge!) of mayo, and it's 300 cals. perfecto.
that's awesome. I have really cut down on the amount of bread I eat, but I'm such a bread whore. it's really hard...but I'm getting there. I'm trying to eat whole wheat wraps instead with spicy mustard instead of mayo.

[carrie721]

that's awesome. I have really cut down on the amount of bread I eat, but I'm such a bread whore. it's really hard...but I'm getting there. I'm trying to eat whole wheat wraps instead with spicy mustard instead of mayo.

bread was hard for me to drop too. and i love those wraps. i found these great 50 cal ones a while back, and they're delish. don't buy manny's, though, those are nazzty.

mm, spicy mustard. love.

[sparky]

Sheebus. Carrie will probably explain this, but it's not that tough. A few eggs for breakfast (toss in a few veggies and crushed garlic to spice em up), plus a good granola bar, or fruit, plus a bunch of water with the coffee or tea is plenty of breakfast. You can put a bunch of crap in a salad - tomatoes, black beans, chick peas, carrots, olives, some cheese, sunflower seeds, chunks of chicken, etc. Also, those fake chicken patties, with a big assed bowl of steamed vegetables and about 16 ounces of water oughta keep anyone's trap shut for 3-4 hours.

This stuff isn't impossible. About the best lunch I have is half a can of black beans with salsa and garlic tossed in, plus a tuna sandwich. Tuna has fat free mayo and spices in it. ****loads of protein, about 400 calories. I'm stuffed for 3 hours easy. I drink at least 2 glasses of water so the whole mess swells up and I am totally full. It's delicious. About my favorite meal ever.

I suspect I am wasting my breath, but I'm not trying to be hostile. I hear this crap from friends and family all the time about essentially not wanting to be deprived of their salt and grease and starch. As if those are food groups. I mean, I love my pizza and french fries as much as anyone. I just don't want to be a big fat assed 40 year old guy with a beer belly. I don't wanna live in that body and god knows no one is gonna want to see it naked. Can't have both. It's ultimately kind of funny, I suppose. Like I told my sister, "Eat all you want, whenever you want, just shut up about how fat you are already. And quit making fun of me for going to the gym or I won't send you a get well card when you have a heart attack."

Of course she told me to fukc off, then we laughed.:blob1:

She cool like dat.

As far as McDonald's goes, of course it's **** food. Most people know that.
Not everyone does, but most. But if people wanna slurp trash down their gullets they're gonna. If they couldn't get McD's they'd go home and make fried chicken. What all that strip farming for those infernal "future burger" cows in Central and South America is doing to the planet is another ugly story entirely.

I think Supersize Me shoulda been called, "Take your golden arches and dig your grave.":lol:

[skcin]

*applauds*


Oh and I forgot to mention...I grew up on McDonalds. My grandma took me there aaaall the time, I don't know how I was not an obese child..but anyway...I'll always have a soft spot for Quarter Pounders with Cheese.

Me too. :o

In a way, yes, in a way, no.

If they'd put healthy items on their $1 menu, then I'd say that they're making strides. But, when the cheapest "health-conscious" item on the menu is $3.99, that makes it prohibitive for people who can't afford anything more than whatever's on the $1 menu.

So, in their view, only people who are in the moderate & higher income & can be healthy, but poor people aren't worthy of healthy eating.

Great point. it can't cost that much more to make a grilled chicken sandwich than a double cheeseburger. :rolleyes:

You make an excellent point, Steve.

Although it must be said that "health food" is, in general, more expensive than less healthy food.
That doesn't make it right, of course, but it's not something that's exclusive to McDonald's.

Bull****. Fresh fruits & veggies, lean meats, pasta (even the whole grain kind) etc. are way cheaper per serving than convenience foods, snack foods, and ready made stuff.

And if you want fast and healthy, go to Subway - made fresh, much healthier for the most part. Right now it's $3.99 for a 6 inch sub, a small bag of chips and a pop. So get a turkey with tons of veggies, mustard instead of mayo, a bag of baked chips & a diet pop. Same price (actually, a bit cheaper, if I recall) than most McD's valu meals.

I always take the onions out. I don't ask for "no onions" though because I like the ghost flavor of the onions, without the actual onions :lol:

I like McDonalds..I won't hide it anymore, once in a while it's a nice treat, their fries are, by far, my favorite.

Burger King is ok...but McD's is my preferred bad food...I'm sure nostalgia plays some part in that.

Haha! Ghost flavor. I do the same thing.

absolutely.

the idea that healthy food is expensive is ridiculous. if you don't buy food that's prepackaged, preportioned, and processed, you can eat cheaply and healthfully.

well, naturally those specific diets are going to be more expensive. you should go on the "carrie eats healthy for $20/week" diet. :thumbsup: i'm serious, it works. :laugh:

Yeah! :p

....I actually don't know anyone who eats "twigs", and I like berries a lot.



One of the Kashi cereals lists "twigs" as one of the ingredients, I swear to God. :D Obviously, they're not really twigs (I don't think) but they look like it & they're crunchy. It's damn good too.

You don't buy cereal or bread??? What are you eating for breakfast? A granola bar? I'd pass out before 10am if that's all I had! Seriously, if all I had to eat in a day was a granola bar, a salad, and a fake chicken patty, I would not be able to function. And I'd probably be fired from my job because I strangled the first person who tried to talk to me.

Sheebus. Carrie will probably explain this, but it's not that tough. A few eggs for breakfast (toss in a few veggies ans crushed garlic to spice em up), plus a good granola bar, or fruit, plus a bunch of water with the coffee or tea is plenty of breakfast. You can put a bunch of crap in a salad - tomatoes, black beans, chick peas, carrots, olives, some cheese, sunflower seeds, chunks of chicken, etc. Also, those fake chicken patties, with a big assed bowl of steamed vegetables and about 16 ounces of water oughta keep anyone's trap shut for 3-4 hours.

This stuff isn't impossible. About the best lunch I have is half a can of black beans with salsa and garlic tossed in, plus a tuna sandwich. Tuna has fat free mayo and spices in it. ****loads of protein, about 400 calories. I'm stuffed for 3 hours easy. I drink at least 2 glasses of water so the whole mess swells up and I am totally full. It's delicious. About my favorite meal ever.

I suspect I am wasting my breath, but I'm not trying to be hostile. I hear this crap from friends and family all the time about essentially not wanting to be deprived of their salt and grease and starch. As if those are food groups. I mean, I love my pizza and french fires as much as anyone. I just don't want to be a big fat assed 40 year old guy with a beer belly. I don't wanna live in that body and god knows no one is gonna want to see it naked. Can't have both. It's ultimately kind of funny, I suppose. Like I told my sister, "Eat all you want, whenever you want, just shut up about how fat you are already. And quit making fun of me for going to the gym or I won't send you a get well card when you have a heart attack."

Of course she told me to fukc off, then we laughed.:blob1:

She cool like dat.

As far as McDonald's goes, of course it's **** food. Most people know that.
Not everyone does, but most. But if people wanna slurp trash down their gullets they're gonna. If they couldn't get McD's they'd go home and make fried chicken. What all that strip farming for those infernal "future burger" cows in Central and South America is doing to the planet is another ugly story entirely.

I think Supersize Me shoulda been called, "Take your golden arches and dig your grave.":lol:

The biggest change (and improvement) in my diet was to ditch most carbs in the morning. I credit Amber with reminding me that I probably wasn't getting enough protein in the am, and that's why I was hungry again within an hour or two. If I do have a carb/bread product, it's "light" or "high fiber" or fortified with protien.

I used to have a bowl of raisin bran - high in fiber, but way too much sugar & simple starch. Now I'll have a Weight Watchers bagel with a bit of peanut butter, or my own "Egg McMuffin" - a light Eng. muffin, 3 egg whites (they're equal to 1 whole egg as far as calories go) a slice of 2% cheese & a slice of ham if I have some handy. Same amount of calories (or a bit less) than before, but I'm not hungry for at least 3 or 4 hours.

BTW - I think everyone loves French fires, they're so much cozier than American ones. :cool:

[bikerchic]

Now I'll have a Weight Watchers bagel

Can you bring me some when you come up? I can't find the god damn things here. Stupid Canada :mad:

[amber]

:p it is the carrie diet. and yours is the amber diet.

Obviously I meant for any and all marketing purposes. Don't care what you call it in the privacy of your own head. :laugh:

Just a random note - A lot of people have a wheat allergy and don't know it, also the gluten in wheat isn't really cool to digest, it's problematic. I notice people think "whole wheat" things are good - they probably aren't. I don't have the scientific info at my fingertips, but i can get it. And essentially it rarely has much more fiber than white bread, and the nutrients are still stripped by processing. Yes, we all grew up thinking "whole wheat" was a great idea. No.
I buy sprouted grain bread. It's very healthy. The brand I buy is Ezekial bread. $2.50/loaf. More scientific info about sprouted grain bread, again not right at my fingertips. I can say without consulting my research that it has more fiber and protein and nutrients, and less cals. Oh, and wait, I think it just went up to 2.99/loaf. Still.

[HomerMcvie]

I've lost 8 lbs on my own "starvation diet". I can go most of the day without eating(okay, it should be noted that I'm a vampire, and get up about 1PM, and don't go to bed til about 5AM). If I must have something before dinner(about 7-8PM), I'll the the above mentioned "one slice sandwich". One slice of Aldi's Oat Bran bread, with some turkey ham, and yes, the smallest amount of mayo that I can convince myself to put on there.
For dinner, I've been alternating between healthy one night(ex-chicken, veggies and rice), and something I WANT to eat, the next night(watching the portion, though!). And I've been okay with this, so far.

The HARDEST part is not eating anything late night. Oh Gawd I can't tell you how hard that is!!! I've got some peanuts here, so I'll have like TEN peanuts, just to feel SOMETHING in my stomach!:lol:

[Sarah]

if i go to mcdonald's, i get the 3 piece chicken selects with tangy honey mustard. that is the best honey mustard anywhere. i really get the chicken just so i can use the HM.

and i'm not big on fries unless they're ultra golden brown & crispy, coated, or curly fries.

i'm big on the starvation diet, too, but mainly because nothing ever appeals to me anymore. blah.

[Johnny Stew]

I don't eat a lot of snack foods. I might have some Snyder's BBQ chips on occasion (the ONLY potato chips that are worth eating, but they're only sold around here). I might have some chocolate chip cookies once in a while, too.
But it's not typical for me to eat a lot of those kinds of things. In fact, when I want a little snack, I usually reach for pretzels or sunflower seeds, believe it or not.

I do, however, eat greasy pepperoni pizza. I eat fried chicken. I eat meatloaf and lasagna and bacon-wrapped steaks and tacos. And so on.
And, yeah, I know there's a healthier way to make most of those things -- but I haven't found a healthier way to prepare them that tastes the way my mother cooks, or the way my grandmother used to. :shrug:

I'm glad others can do it. Honestly. And more power to you.
Myself, I prefer the taste of the bad-for-you stuff. Fried. Fatty. Greasy. That **** tastes GOOD... which is why even the most health-conscious person craves it. I've never met a person who craves rice cakes. :laugh:

Mind you, I don't complain about gaining weight. I acknowledge that I have, and I acknowledge the fact that it would, obviously, be healthier for me to lose it. I also acknowledge that I do feel better when I weigh about 20lbs less than I am now. (Ironically, when I was younger, I was ultra-skinny no matter what I ate -- to the point that people commented on it ALL the time. But I've turned a corner with my metabolism.)

Life is so short, and I already don't smoke, do drugs, drink alcohol excessively, or sleep around... so I've got to have some fun, right? ;)

[sparky]

I've never met a person who craves rice cakes. :laugh:




I am totally jonesing for white cheddar rice cakes now. But we've never met.

[ontheEdgeof17]

^I love White Cheddar Rice Cakes! I can eat the whole bag in one sitting.

[skcin]

I don't eat a lot of snack foods. I might have some Snyder's BBQ chips on occasion (the ONLY potato chips that are worth eating, but they're only sold around here). I might have some chocolate chip cookies once in a while, too.
But it's not typical for me to eat a lot of those kinds of things. In fact, when I want a little snack, I usually reach for pretzels or sunflower seeds, believe it or not.

I do, however, eat greasy pepperoni pizza. I eat fried chicken. I eat meatloaf and lasagna and bacon-wrapped steaks and tacos. And so on.
And, yeah, I know there's a healthier way to make most of those things -- but I haven't found a healthier way to prepare them that tastes the way my mother cooks, or the way my grandmother used to. :shrug:


Wait, I don't think anyone told you to diet, did they? Did I miss something? I thought one of the discussions here was that McD's is cheap & easy, and that you said healthy foods are more expensive, so it's harder to eat well. Bacon wrapped steaks are cheaper than chicken? Lasagna is cheaper than pasta with veggies? Pretzels and chips are cheaper than fruit?

I'm not trying to harp on you, Stew. I eat all of the things you've mentioned, but either not as often as I used to, or in a smaller portion, or made healthier. I don't think anyone can completely eliminate these types of food from their diet. But to say that healthy food is too expensive is just a copout. If you want to eat this way, go for it. But don't turn around & say "but it's so affordable!"

[Johnny Stew]

I am totally jonesing for white cheddar rice cakes now. But we've never met.The white cheddar rice cakes have 160 mgs of sodium as opposed to only 3 mgs in the regular ones.
If you had to watch your sodium, you couldn't eat them. ;)

[Johnny Stew]

Wait, I don't think anyone told you to diet, did they? Did I miss something?No, they didn't. And I didn't think I implied that anyone did.

I thought one of the discussions here was that McD's is cheap & easy, and that you said healthy foods are more expensive, so it's harder to eat well. Bacon wrapped steaks are cheaper than chicken? Lasagna is cheaper than pasta with veggies? Pretzels and chips are cheaper than fruit?You might have missed it, but I explained that my "healthy foods are more expensive" comment was in reference to the "easy" half of "cheap & easy." if you don't have a lot of time (or the ability) to cook, buying the "easy" foods is definitely more expensive than the less healthy alternatives.

And, no, bacon-wrapped steaks aren't cheaper than chicken, but I also mentioned that I'm not fond enough of chicken to want to eat it more than once a week. If that often.
Of course, I don't eat those steaks more than once a week either. Hell, not even more than twice a month. But they're among the "unhealthy" things I love to eat.

I'm not trying to harp on you, Stew. I eat all of the things you've mentioned, but either not as often as I used to, or in a smaller portion, or made healthier. I don't think anyone can completely eliminate these types of food from their diet. But to say that healthy food is too expensive is just a copout. If you want to eat this way, go for it. But don't turn around & say "but it's so affordable!"If anyone thought that I said I eat the way that I do because I can't afford to eat healthier, that wasn't the impression I meant to give.
That comment was in regards to chiliD's mention that the healthier foods on McDonald's menu are more expensive than the unhealthy ones, and I was only adding that the healthier "EASY" foods are always more expensive.

I have cut down on the size of my portions, and I've also eliminated my "midnight snack" -- but so far, after four weeks, I haven't seen any changes. Now that the weather is getting better, I'll start walking again. Maybe that'll help.
Beyond that, I'm not busting my balls to be fit and thin.

[sparky]

The white cheddar rice cakes have 160 mgs of sodium as opposed to only 3 mgs in the regular ones.
If you had to watch your sodium, you couldn't eat them. ;)

Thankfully I don't have sodium problems. Then I wouldn't be eating em.
At this point I am just focused on not being fat.

[skcin]

If anyone thought that I said I eat the way that I do because I can't afford to eat healthier, that wasn't the impression I meant to give.
That comment was in regards to chiliD's mention that the healthier foods on McDonald's menu are more expensive than the unhealthy ones, and I was only adding that the healthier "EASY" foods are always more expensive.



Yes, and I pointed out that Subway's value meal is cheaper than the typical McD's value meal. So no, NOT always.

[Johnny Stew]

Yes, and I pointed out that Subway's value meal is cheaper than the typical McD's value meal. So no, NOT always.Very true. And I do LOOOOVE me some Subway.

But then Subway doesn't offer burgers and fries... so if you happen to be in the mood for those, but don't have time to make a lean burger, where do you go?

Not being contrary, I'm just honestly asking.

[strandinthewind]

Yes, and I pointed out that Subway's value meal is cheaper than the typical McD's value meal. So no, NOT always.

and, hello - an apple or some other fruit is like $0.50 to a dollar.

Moreover, my local grocer sells packs of pre cooked chicken tits for $8.00 for a package of eight. So, for like $2.00 you could have a tit and some veg. or fruit.

[Johnny Stew]

Thankfully I don't have sodium problems. Then I wouldn't be eating em.
At this point I am just focused on not being fat.And, admittedly, you probably never will have problems with sodium, because you do watch what you eat now... as opposed to down the road when it might already be too late to stop certain health problems.

For all my stubborness, I do give a lot of credit to people who eat right. In fact, I wish I had the willpower to be a vegetarian.
In all other areas of my life, I'm extremely mindful of the healthier choices (I drink ONLY water 95% of the time), but when it comes to food.... *oink*

[sparky]

and, hello - an apple or some other fruit is like $0.50 to a dollar.

Moreover, my local grocer sells packs of pre cooked chicken tits for $8.00 for a package of eight. So, for like $2.00 you could have a tit and some veg. or fruit.


And, you can toss a friggin veggie burger or turk burger in the micro for a minute and slather it must, ketch, tomatoes, lettuce, non fat mayo, pickles, etc. Who the hell can tell the diff with all that on it? It takes all of 3 minutes to make that. I mean, in my 10-12 hour workdays I manage it.

[strandinthewind]

And, you can toss a friggin veggie burger or turk burger in the micro for a minute and slather it must, ketch, tomatoes, lettuce, non fat mayo, pickles, etc. Who the hell can tell the diff with all that on it? It takes all of 3 minutes to make that. I mean, in my 10-12 hour workdays I manage it.

I eat two of those bresteses with brocolli every day for lunch (about $2.50 a day). It saves me like $50 a week in luch costs and is better tasting then anything they sell around here.

[skcin]

Very true. And I do LOOOOVE me some Subway.

But then Subway doesn't offer burgers and fries... so if you happen to be in the mood for those, but don't have time to make a lean burger, where do you go?

Not being contrary, I'm just honestly asking.


In the time that it takes to drive to McD's, order the burger, pay for it, check your order to be sure they didn't F it up & drive back home, you could throw a 93% lean patty on the George Forman grill, slap it on a bun, toss on some cheese & you're done. Really. Will it take a bit more effort & planning on my part? Sure. But it's not impossible.

If you really want McD's, then buy a Happy Meal - not the Double Big Mac Value Meal. Or go to Wendy's - at least they throw some lettuce & tomato on even their basic burger. :laugh:

[sparky]

I eat two of those bresteses with brocolli every day for lunch (about $2.50 a day). It saves me like $50 a week in luch costs and is better tasting then anything they sell around here.

See how it is? You be smart and I am sure ya look great naked.

[Johnny Stew]

If you really want McD's, then buy a Happy Meal - not the Double Big Mac Value Meal.Which is what I usually get. :laugh:

Let me stress that I only do that once a month. Because sometimes I'm plain hungry for McDonald's and not the burgers that I make at home. :)

[carrie721]

One of the Kashi cereals lists "twigs" as one of the ingredients, I swear to God. :D Obviously, they're not really twigs (I don't think) but they look like it & they're crunchy. It's damn good too.

yep. i, carrie, the kashi whore do hereby certify that there is a kashi cereal with "twigs." true fact. it's good, tho, i promise. :laugh:

Sheebus. Carrie will probably explain this, but it's not that tough. A few eggs for breakfast (toss in a few veggies and crushed garlic to spice em up), plus a good granola bar, or fruit, plus a bunch of water with the coffee or tea is plenty of breakfast. You can put a bunch of crap in a salad - tomatoes, black beans, chick peas, carrots, olives, some cheese, sunflower seeds, chunks of chicken, etc. Also, those fake chicken patties, with a big assed bowl of steamed vegetables and about 16 ounces of water oughta keep anyone's trap shut for 3-4 hours.

This stuff isn't impossible. About the best lunch I have is half a can of black beans with salsa and garlic tossed in, plus a tuna sandwich. Tuna has fat free mayo and spices in it. ****loads of protein, about 400 calories. I'm stuffed for 3 hours easy. I drink at least 2 glasses of water so the whole mess swells up and I am totally full. It's delicious. About my favorite meal ever.

wow, i'm totally going to do that black beans & salsa thing. that sounds awesome. :wavey:

I think Supersize Me shoulda been called, "Take your golden arches and dig your grave.":lol:

i read this just now as i was on the phone with my bank and almost cracked up. hard to be a bitch while you're laughing. :cool:

Obviously I meant for any and all marketing purposes. Don't care what you call it in the privacy of your own head. :laugh:

:laugh: i don't think i could market that idea. nobody here seems interested. :laugh:

But then Subway doesn't offer burgers and fries... so if you happen to be in the mood for those, but don't have time to make a lean burger, where do you go?

being in the mood for a burger doesn't mean you have to have one. :shrug:

[DrummerDeanna]

Which is what I usually get. :laugh:

Let me stress that I only do that once a month. Because sometimes I'm plain hungry for McDonald's and not the burgers that I make at home. :)

That's the thing. There are hamburgers and there are McDonalds hamburgers. They're different. McDonalds burgers taste different from anything else.

I say if you're craving one that bad - just have one! I have a Quarter Pounder with Cheese when I crave one, just not once a week anymore! It's all about moderation...but I'm relatively sure that I will not, on my death bed, think "I should not have eaten that Quarter Pounder" so meh..I eat one once in a while...

[Sarah]

I say if you're craving one that bad - just have one!

You're just like Howard K. Stern, you enabler you! ;)

[amber]

:laugh: i don't think i could market that idea. nobody here seems interested. :laugh:
Yeah, they all have more money than us. :laugh:



being in the mood for a burger doesn't mean you have to have one. :shrug:

:confused: What do you mean? What language is that? :confused:


hehehe. I wish I liked beans more. I especially don't care for black beans. But pinto beans are most nutritious, and those are okay. The only bean I really, really like, is lentil.

Isn't that fascinating? :woohoo:

[carrie721]

Yeah, they all have more money than us. :laugh:

i know. :laugh: i wonder what i'll be buying when i have a real job. i really don't know if i'll be able to cope. :laugh:

"you mean i can buy chicken and fake chicken?" :lol:

:confused: What do you mean? What language is that? :confused:


hehehe. I wish I liked beans more. I especially don't care for black beans. But pinto beans are most nutritious, and those are okay. The only bean I really, really like, is lentil.

Isn't that fascinating? :woohoo:

yes, amber, please tell me more about your legume lusting. :laugh:

lentil is probably my least favorite bean, with black beans being at the top. yo quiero black beans, bitch.

[amber]

i know. :laugh: i wonder what i'll be buying when i have a real job. i really don't know if i'll be able to cope. :laugh:

"you mean i can buy chicken and fake chicken?" :lol:



yes, amber, please tell me more about your legume lusting. :laugh:

lentil is probably my least favorite bean, with black beans being at the top. yo quiero black beans, bitch.

Really? Black beans taste so bitter to me. And lentil soup with veggies is...well...it's like an awesome stew...
You're so weird and wrong, Carrie! Wrong!!! :mad: :laugh:

I know, when I have extra grocery money, I'm like...:confused:
I buy, like...extra tea, and weird crap I don't usually get to try.
You know what tried the other day that was soooo good? Ginger lime drink. They make it hot at whole foods coffee counter. Strong and delish.

[carrie721]

Really? Black beans taste so bitter to me. And lentil soup with veggies is...well...it's like an awesome stew...
You're so weird and wrong, Carrie! Wrong!!! :mad: :laugh:

they're too mealy for me, or something. black beans have a great texture.

no, YOU'RE wrong, amber! what the hell do you know about beans?!?! :mad:

I know, when I have extra grocery money, I'm like...:confused:
I buy, like...extra tea, and weird crap I don't usually get to try.
You know what tried the other day that was soooo good? Ginger lime drink. They make it hot at whole foods coffee counter. Strong and delish.

cleveland is finally getting a whole foods. i'll only have to drive an hour to get there. :rolleyes: :laugh:

[JazmenFlowers]

I am totally jonesing for white cheddar rice cakes now. But we've never met.
:wavey: me too.
At this point I am just focused on not being fat.
:laugh:

gawd I love reading your posts

[carrie721]

gawd I love reading your posts

me too. sparky, i ****ing love ya.

right now i'm eating sparky's black bean/salsa salad thing! it's so good! i put some habanero salsa & some corn salsa in there and it is ****ing delicious. i think tomorrow i'll dice up a tomato and throw it in there, and maybe just some corn instead of the corn salsa since this corn salsa is kind of weird.

[amber]

they're too mealy for me, or something. black beans have a great texture.

no, YOU'RE wrong, amber! what the hell do you know about beans?!?! :mad:



cleveland is finally getting a whole foods. i'll only have to drive an hour to get there. :rolleyes: :laugh:

Lame. It's just...ginger and lime juice, but hot. Maybe I'll see if I can ferret out their secret recipe...oooo...

hmmm. To me black beans are mealy.

[Johnny Stew]

That's the thing. There are hamburgers and there are McDonalds hamburgers. They're different. McDonalds burgers taste different from anything else.I'm glad someone gets it. :xoxo:
God help me, but a lean burger doesn't taste like a Big Mac. :o

[DavidMn]

I'm glad someone gets it. :xoxo:
God help me, but a lean burger doesn't taste like a Big Mac. :oBitch! you KNOW u want a soyburger right now!:lol:

[skcin]

You know what tried the other day that was soooo good? Ginger lime drink. They make it hot at whole foods coffee counter. Strong and delish.


cleveland is finally getting a whole foods. i'll only have to drive an hour to get there. :rolleyes: :laugh:


Stop flaunting your Whole Foods in front of me. You know I don't have that OR a Trader Joe's. :distress: Bitches.

I'm glad someone gets it. :xoxo:
God help me, but a lean burger doesn't taste like a Big Mac. :o

Oh, I get it too. I love McD's too, on occasion, and ita w/ Dee that there's nothing like it. I was just trying to answer your question, which is where do you get a LEAN burger if you're in a hurry. :shrug:

[Johnny Stew]

Oh, I get it too. I love McD's too, on occasion, and ita w/ Dee that there's nothing like it. I was just trying to answer your question, which is where do you get a LEAN burger if you're in a hurry. :shrug:And you did, Paula. Thanks. :xoxo:

I wonder if Home Ec classes should start teaching children where to find healthy, quick and inexpensive alternatives to fast food.
There are some things (right from wrong, for example) that parents should be teaching their kids, but when it comes to eating healthy, some parents are completely in the dark.

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Or is some of it just a youth thing? I remember in high school ALL my friends ate horribly. I was never taught nutrition, some were and still ate crap.

And now I live across from a high school, everday when I leave for work they're coming and going from lunch - and pretty much everyone has either Burger King...a BIG bag of chips or some sort and a huge soda...candy as well. I mean all of them. I'm sure not all their parents are idiots - and I'm sure some of them know it's bad - but it's a youth thing maybe?

I don't really know what point I'm trying to make (if any) it's just something I've been noticing.

[skcin]

^ I think so Dee, but I also think it's the way they're being raised. Look at you & I - we ate at McD's regularly, my fam used to order pizza once a week on top of that, plus snacks, junk food, etc. It wasn't all bad, it's not like we never ate vegetables, but I'm sure we ate crap a lot more than was healthy. And now we're paying for it, I know I've had to literally change the way I eat -and it was NOT easy. Then look at Amber, whose parents did not go the fast food route & focussed more on healthy eating according to her. Things that were common sense to her were not to me as a kid, not until I got older & did research & learned more.

So, yeah I think kids are going to eat more crappily in general. But a kid brought up in a house that has McD's once a week, pizza once a week, Chinese once a week, KFC once a week, doesn't make their own lunch, drinks pop by the gallon, etc. is already automatically at a disadvantage - because they don't know any better. This is how they think it is supposed to be. :shrug:


BTW - in junior year of high school, I went to BK every.single.day. at lunch & ate a bacon double cheeseburger, large fry & a DIET Coke. I look back on that & pray my heart will forgive me. :o

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Excellent points...makes sense, as the friends I do have that were raised in better food homes definitely have it easier now.

You mentioned pizza once a week - that's also a carry-over from my upbringing. EVERY Friday I get a wicked craving for pizza because that was always pizza day growing up. So I have to actually stop myself from gettin a pizza every week...I still do once in a while...because, well, I love pizza.

Anyway, I've also had to learn about all this stuff as an adult - it definitely put me at a disadvantage. Can't argue that!

In high school I would eat Reese's Peanut Butter Cups every day, along with a (real)coke or two and lunch would be either a Sonic Burger or Pizza..unless we went off campus, then it was McD's. If I ate like that now I'd be a blimp.

[skcin]

^I sympathise on the pizza., my fam was the same way. Of course I'm not going to stop ordering pizza entirely, but I'm not going to have it every week either, esp. if I've already gone out to dinner that week, or had Wendy's for lunch, or KFC. Man, I haven't had KFC in about a year. Mmmmmmmmm......

[DrummerDeanna]

^I sympathise on the pizza., my fam was the same way. Of course I'm not going to stop ordering pizza entirely, but I'm not going to have it every week either, esp. if I've already gone out to dinner that week, or had Wendy's for lunch, or KFC. Man, I haven't had KFC in about a year. Mmmmmmmmm......

Exactly. I usually do one "treat" meal during the week, which means something bad - pizza or burger or something. The rest of the week I make my foods fresh...it's funny I've been craving KFC lately too - but I refuse to eat there :laugh: My sister keeps telling me just to get some fried chicken at the grocery store or something, but it's not the same...oh well.

[HomerMcvie]

Exactly. I usually do one "treat" meal during the week, which means something bad - pizza or burger or something. The rest of the week I make my foods fresh...it's funny I've been craving KFC lately too - but I refuse to eat there :laugh: My sister keeps telling me just to get some fried chicken at the grocery store or something, but it's not the same...oh well.

And it's NOT the same. KFC is the best. And it MUST be Original Recipe.

I think I know your taste buds pretty well, Dee......I'll bet you're an Extra Crispy girl.:shrug:

I'm eating a fukcing salad now, cuz I'm playing music tonight(and my diet too, of course).

[Johnny Stew]

You mentioned pizza once a week - that's also a carry-over from my upbringing. EVERY Friday I get a wicked craving for pizza because that was always pizza day growing up.Same here. Although Saturday was usually Pizza Day, because my grandmother made it homemade. Best damn pizza EVER.
After she passed away, Friday became our Pizza Day.

So I have to actually stop myself from gettin a pizza every week...
This little piggy doesn't stop himself. I want pizza -- I order pizza.
You know, everytime an Italian doesn't eat pizza, it makes the baby Jesus cry. ;)

[goldustsongbird]

You know, everytime an Italian doesn't eat pizza, it makes the baby Jesus cry. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[xdreamsunwindx]

You know, everytime an Italian doesn't eat pizza, it makes the baby Jesus cry. ;)

Amen to that, man.

[sparky]

You know, everytime an Italian doesn't eat pizza, it makes the baby Jesus cry. ;)

Very well could be true.

I suspect though, that everytime an Italian dies of an arteriosclerosis related heart attack or has gastric bypass, the baby jesus soils his swaddling clothes.

Damn, hasn't that infant been through enough?

:distress: :woohoo:

[Johnny Stew]

Very well could be true.

I suspect though, that everytime an Italian dies of an arteriosclerosis related heart attack or has gastric bypass, the baby jesus soils his swaddling clothes.
Folks who diet and exercise still die every day, too. Plane crashes. Car accidents. Cancer. Aneurysms. Fat people strangling them to death.

I'll take my chances with my pizza. :D

[DrummerDeanna]

Same here. Although Saturday was usually Pizza Day, because my grandmother made it homemade. Best damn pizza EVER.
After she passed away, Friday became our Pizza Day.


This little piggy doesn't stop himself. I want pizza -- I order pizza.
You know, everytime an Italian doesn't eat pizza, it makes the baby Jesus cry. ;)

:lol: :lol:

That and Spary's Jesus soiling his swadling clothes comments have got me rolling...:laugh:

[sparky]

Fat people strangling them to death.


OMG. This makes my year.

I may have just soiled my own swaddling clothes with glee.

[SuzeQuze]

McDonald's doesn't need to be banned -- people just need to stop being whiny losers and start accepting personal responsibility. No one's shoving those burgers and fries into anyone's mouths... it's a choice whether or not we eat them.

Not to mention the fact that it's FAST FOOD and was never meant to be a staple of anyone's diet -- something that any common garden-variety idiot should know.

When I was a kid, we had McDonald's maybe once a month as a treat. Now people eat it like it's one of the four food groups.

:lol: Stewey says "stop being whiny losers". I'm writing this down! :blob1: ;)

I do eat fast food once in a while. I agree that banning it isn't the answer. I mean seriously, are they going to have to have a french fry black market?

[Serrart]

Same here. Although Saturday was usually Pizza Day, because my grandmother made it homemade. Best damn pizza EVER.
After she passed away, Friday became our Pizza Day.


This little piggy doesn't stop himself. I want pizza -- I order pizza.
You know, everytime an Italian doesn't eat pizza, it makes the baby Jesus cry. ;)

Good Boy. :)

Romy

[skcin]

Oh good God, this is just what we need. :rolleyes: :laugh:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/07/news/companies/mcdonalds_burger/index.htm?cnn=yes

McDonald's tests a bigger burger, report says
Fast-food chain trying out a high-end, one-third of a pound Angus beef burger priced at $3.99, according to newspaper.
March 7 2007: 1:51 PM EST


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Fast-food chain McDonald's is testing a bigger high-end Angus burger that costs a little bit more for the extra weight, according to a published report Wednesday.

The Chicago Tribune said the new Third Pounder is currently available only in about 600 restaurant locations in Southern California. At one-third of a pound, the burger is the biggest on the McDonald's (Charts) menu at outlets where it is being tested.

It is also the most expensive sandwich, priced at $3.99, the paper said.

America's most admired companies
The paper quoted McDonald's franchise owner Scott Frisbie as saying that he approached the company about two years ago with the idea that the McDonald's menu needed a premium burger to remain competitive.

Developed by McDonald's executive chef Dan Coudreaut, the burger comes on a denser bun, which Frisbie said has more of a "roll flavor," the report said.

"The initial reaction has been overwhelmingly positive," said Frisbie, who helped conduct the initial tests of the burger during the past four months at two of his family's 17 franchises in the Anaheim area. "The sales really surprised us," he told the paper.

McDonald's traditionally has been cautious about adding new menu items. In recent years the company has introduced chicken snack wraps and salads to its menu.

Meanwhile, its competitors have also added Angus burgers to their menus. Burger King (Charts) added the $3.99 Angus Steak Burger to its menu in 2004. Carl's Jr. and Hardee's, which are both owned by CKE Restaurants Inc (Charts)., offer as many as eight variations of an Angus burger priced as high as $6.

Hardee's added the burgers, which are known as Thickburgers, in 2003. Carl's Jr. added the Angus burger to its menu in 2004, the report said.

The report said that the new sandwich comes in three versions: a deluxe with American cheese, tomato slices, lettuce, red onion strips and pickles; a mushroom and Swiss cheese; and a bacon and American cheese.

Only the double Quarter Pounder with cheese compares to the calorie count of the new burgers. The Angus Third Pounder ranges from 720 calories to 860 calories, while the double Quarter Pounder contains 740 calories. McDonald's signature sandwich, the Big Mac, is 540 calories, the report said.

[carrie721]

christ on a cracker. barf.

[amber]

christ on a cracker. barf.

Yeah. I was thinking *droool*. I'm a bad, bad person. A bad, piggy, burger mad person. I won't get one though. Swear. :angel: I just want one cause I get paid tomorrow and have not had enough grease and junk food in the past couple days. :laugh: Hey, I'm Italian too, what can I say?