View Full Version : Discuss: You Make Loving Fun
skcin
02-02-2007, 02:44 PM
I'm bored. :shrug: This place is way too dead lately, esp. this forum. So I'm doing another song discussion/like or dislike/love it or hate it thread. Please post your thoughts on the song. I'm not doing a poll - it's too easy to vote & then not tell us why you voted the way you did. ;)
YMLF is one of my most loved Christine-penned Mac tunes. The music, the lyrics, the tempo, the vocals - superb. I feel a hint of a disco vibe to it - but it's not a "disco" or "dance" song, it's still a definite rocker. Many artists made similar attempts at this, but failed miserably - Rod's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" and the horrid "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss come to mind - I wish I could forget them. But YMLF is fantastic; modern & current when it was released, a classic now. And it's sexy as hell. :cool:
Love love love older live versions of it, Stevie's backup harmonies perfectly compliment Chris's lead vocal. "and I'm beGINNING to wonder whyyyyy.......I've a FEELING it's time to tryyyy....." Second only to their vocal fabulousness on Rhiannon & Oh Daddy, IMO. Anyway, another thing that I love about it is the little musical break/jam in the middle. It's so tight, but sounds spontaneous to my ears. Love that although Lindsey does have a solo in there, it doesn't overshadow the other instruments at all, unlike some other songs. The thing I tend to play back in my head is actually Mick's drumming, the cymbals (I think.)
Music pro's - what instrument is Chris playing on this? Is it just an electric keyboard with a specific sound programmed in? Excuse my ignorance, but I have no clue how that sexy twangy sound comes from. I hope someone will be able to better explain what I'm asking. :o
HomerMcvie
02-02-2007, 02:53 PM
The twangy sound is a Hohner Clavinet.
And my favorite part is the alternate ending lyrics, on the bonus disk.
DrummerDeanna
02-02-2007, 03:24 PM
In an effort to not get this song mixed up with "Say You Love Me" again...I made sure I had the right one.
I really like this song. It does not contain the word "woo" and that makes me happy ;)
Really though, I am not good at analyzing and figuring out WHY I like songs, but this one really jumped out at me the very first time I heard it, which was actually on The Dance. When I went back and listened to other versions I discovered the greatness of the song.
The lyrics are great, her voice is always superb and it's just an all-around great little ditty. One of my FM favorites for sure...:nod:
"I never did believe in miracles,
But I've a feeling it's time to try.
I never did believe in the ways of magic,
But I'm beginning to wonder why."
I love those lines...love.
macfan 57
02-02-2007, 04:33 PM
YMLF is one of my favorite Chris songs. I love it just as much now as I did when I first heard it 30 years ago. I think it's a very funky(thanks to the clavinet) rhythm & blues song. Chris' vocals are perfect as usual & this song is a keyboard extravaganza. Chris also plays her Rhodes electric piano & hammond organ as well as that funky clavinet.
Aisling
02-02-2007, 05:26 PM
i've always wondered if chris meant "loving" to be an adjective or a noun. i think about this everything i hear YMLF. . .it's one of those life mysteries that will continue to haunt me until the end of time. :laugh:
amber
02-02-2007, 09:27 PM
i've always wondered if chris meant "loving" to be an adjective or a noun. i think about this everything i hear YMLF. . .it's one of those life mysteries that will continue to haunt me until the end of time. :laugh:
I thought she was using it as a verb? But far be it from me to get in the way of you being haunted till the end of time. I know how fun that is. :woohoo: :laugh:
My favorite thing about this song is the band. Especially John's little bassline. Also so compelling it's almost mesmerizing is the "swweeeeeeeeeeeeet wonderful you" at the beginning. You have to sing it, you just have to, it is futile to resist.
Not so fond of the chorus "never did belee-ee-ee-eeeeve in miriculs.." etc. It's just a bit sugary sounding. Still incredibly catchy and unavoidably singable, though.
My next favorite part is what the band does after "doooon't. Don't break the spe-e-ell. It will be different and you know it will" *bowdowmpbudowmbowmbowmp* <===== this part.
This song is incredibly tight. It really is a perfect pop song, among FM's many. Again, the band is my favorite in this one.
carrie721
02-02-2007, 09:41 PM
I thought she was using it as a verb?
she's using it as a gerund, which is an "-ing" verb that functions as a noun.
amber
02-02-2007, 09:44 PM
she's using it as a gerund, which is an "-ing" verb that functions as a noun.
I don't understand. I thought loving was just a verb. How is it functioning as a noun in this case? It's not a person, place or thing. :laugh: It's an action.
trackaghost
02-02-2007, 09:46 PM
One of my favourite ever Chris songs - very funky and very sexy.
Love love love older live versions of it, Stevie's backup harmonies perfectly compliment Chris's lead vocal. "and I'm beGINNING to wonder whyyyyy.......I've a FEELING it's time to tryyyy....." Second only to their vocal fabulousness on Rhiannon & Oh Daddy, IMO.
I was listening to the studio version of that the other day, you know the one on the second disc of the expanded Rumours, and while I absolutely love those extra lines I can see why they cut them out of the final version. They're lush but they sound on the verge of going out of tune too :)
carrie721
02-02-2007, 09:47 PM
I don't understand. I thought loving was just a verb. How is it functioning as a noun in this case? It's not a person, place or thing. :laugh: It's an action.
loving is a verb, but present tense participles ("-ing" verbs) can also be gerunds, which are nouns. you can put a noun in its place in the sentence.
you make cake fun.
you make worms fun.
you make calculators fun.
"loving" can also be the subject of a sentence ... "loving is fun" ... etc. it's a noun, baby! :woohoo:
amber
02-02-2007, 09:51 PM
loving is a verb, but present tense participles ("-ing" verbs) can also be gerunds, which are nouns. you can put a noun in its place in the sentence.
you make cake fun.
you make worms fun.
you make calculators fun.
"loving" can also be the subject of a sentence ... "loving is fun" ... etc. it's a noun, baby! :woohoo:
uh...I still don't quite see it. I kinda do, I guess. But cake, worms, and calculators are different than loving. Loving is already a verb. I don't really see loving as anything but an action word. Is it the way it is being used that makes it different? To me she is talking about loving, as in, you know, loving. Sex. Like the action of making love.
I have to admit, not only has it been a long time since I addressed any of these rules (sixth grade), but even then I didn't have to really address them, as I just always knew how the sentence should be and what not. I mean, I'm not going to remember extra **** if I'm already getting an 'A'. :laugh:
goldustsongbird
02-02-2007, 09:52 PM
loving is a verb, but present tense participles ("-ing" verbs) can also be gerunds, which are nouns. you can put a noun in its place in the sentence.
you make cake fun.
you make worms fun.
you make calculators fun.
"loving" can also be the subject of a sentence ... "loving is fun" ... etc. it's a noun, baby! :woohoo:
And you call me smartypants! :rolleyes:
amber
02-02-2007, 09:53 PM
One of my favourite ever Chris songs - very funky and very sexy.
That is John's bassline, and the bandwork, that is talking. Making it "funky" (only basslines make things funky :laugh: ) and sexy. :p Ha, not really, but the band work in this one definitely makes it much more funky and sexy than it could have otherwise been with just the vocals.
Did that make sense? I can't tell.
Anyways, I agree.
carrie721
02-02-2007, 09:56 PM
uh...I still don't quite see it. I kinda do, I guess. But cake, worms, and calculators are different than loving. Loving is already a verb. I don't really see loving as anything but an action word. Is it the way it is being used that makes it different? To me she is talking about loving, as in, you know, loving. Sex. Like the action of making love.
I have to admit, not only has it been a long time since I addressed any of these rules (sixth grade), but even then I didn't have to really address them, as I just always knew how the sentence should be and what not. I mean, I'm not going to remember extra **** if I'm already getting an 'A'. :laugh:
right. it is a verb, but it's functioning in the sentence as a noun. trufakt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund
amber
02-02-2007, 09:59 PM
right. it is a verb, but it's functioning in the sentence as a noun. trufakt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund
So like I said, the way it is being used. I get it now. "Don't blame it on me, blame it on my wild Budweiser...." :laugh:
I would still never think of it as a noun, though. Even now, i have lost "getting it" like I did seconds ago.
What if the sentence was: "You make walking fun". Isn't that different? Isn't that a straight verb? :confused: If so, why is "loving" different?
Edit: I see by reading your Wikipedia that it is kind of complicated, and I should probably use that as the full explanation, instead of bugging you. It's pretty explicit, in theory it should explain it to me, though you are explaining it more simply.
Also, I am uncomfortably reminded of my mom right now, so...:laugh:
trackaghost
02-02-2007, 10:07 PM
That is John's bassline, and the bandwork, that is talking. Making it "funky" (only basslines make things funky :laugh: ) and sexy. :p Ha, not really, but the band work in this one definitely makes it much more funky and sexy than it could have otherwise been with just the vocals.
Did that make sense? I can't tell.
Anyways, I agree.
Yeah, that makes sense :) But I think it's a combination of John's bass and Chris' Rhodes electric piano that make it funky. They get into a grove together to make sweet, sweet lurve baby
It's such a great song and I love how Christine comes in on that high note: "Sweeeet, wonderful you..." Her voice sounds so slinky on that song.
amber
02-02-2007, 10:09 PM
Yeah, that makes sense :) But I think it's a combination of John's bass and Chris' Rhodes electric piano that make it funky. They get into a grove together to make sweet, sweet lurve baby
It's such a great song and I love how Christine comes in on that high note: "Sweeeet, wonderful you..." Her voice sounds so slinky on that song.
You are right, that is why I said "the band" is my favorite thing about this song. It grooves almost criminally. You can't discount Lindsey's guitar, either, or even Mick. No matter how much you want to discount Mick. hahaha. It really is a kind of perfect song.
Also so compelling it's almost mesmerizing is the "swweeeeeeeeeeeeet wonderful you" at the beginning. You have to sing it, you just have to, it is futile to resist.
carrie721
02-02-2007, 10:30 PM
So like I said, the way it is being used. I get it now. "Don't blame it on me, blame it on my wild Budweiser...." :laugh:
I would still never think of it as a noun, though. Even now, i have lost "getting it" like I did seconds ago.
What if the sentence was: "You make walking fun". Isn't that different? Isn't that a straight verb? :confused: If so, why is "loving" different?
Edit: I see by reading your Wikipedia that it is kind of complicated, and I should probably use that as the full explanation, instead of bugging you. It's pretty explicit, in theory it should explain it to me, though you are explaining it more simply.
Also, I am uncomfortably reminded of my mom right now, so...:laugh:
"walking" would function the same way as "loving." for some reason, i cannot figure out what part of the sentence "loving" is functioning as in "YMLF," or i'm sure i could be more succinct. but i'm pretty braindead right now.
-carrie "grammar junkie" c.
amber
02-02-2007, 10:44 PM
"walking" would function the same way as "loving." for some reason, i cannot figure out what part of the sentence "loving" is functioning as in "YMLF," or i'm sure i could be more succinct. but i'm pretty braindead right now.
-carrie "grammar junkie" c.
Thanks.
-amber "you and grammar rules are pissing me off" g.
:laugh: :laugh: - not really, not at all. Although faced with actual complex grammar rules after so many years, it is pretty odd. I'm more of a stickler for spelling and logic. Grammar is dangerously close to "word math" :laugh: It isn't really, I just made that up because it made me laugh.
Since you're braindead right now, you're probably about on par with me. Only about this one thing, big head. :mad:
:lol:
carrie721
02-02-2007, 10:48 PM
Thanks.
-amber "you and grammar rules are pissing me off" g.
:laugh: :laugh: - not really, not at all. Although faced with actual complex grammar rules after so many years, it is pretty odd. I'm more of a stickler for spelling and logic. Grammar is dangerously close to "word math" :laugh: It isn't really, I just made that up because it made me laugh.
Since you're braindead right now, you're probably about on par with me. Only about this one thing, big head. :mad:
:lol:
no, you're right, grammar is totally word math. i would extemporate (made that word up), but y'know. brain death and threadjacking and all that. i wish david o. were still around, he'd be able to explain it better than i could.
amber
02-02-2007, 10:58 PM
no, you're right, grammar is totally word math. i would extemporate (made that word up), but y'know. brain death and threadjacking and all that. i wish david o. were still around, he'd be able to explain it better than i could.
Naw, he wouldn't. It might be a longer explanation, though. :laugh:
"Extemporate" - now you're speaking my languagosity! :thumbsup:
P.S. - You rock.:woohoo: :wavey:
carrie721
02-02-2007, 11:07 PM
Naw, he wouldn't. It might be a longer explanation, though. :laugh:
i am lmmfao because you're right. :lol: :lol: :lol:
"Extemporate" - now you're speaking my languagosity! :thumbsup:
P.S. - You rock.:woohoo: :wavey:
:cool: :thumbsup:
JazmenFlowers
02-03-2007, 12:44 AM
I love this song...almost as much as Oh Daddy. like P said, Stevie's harmonies are amazing. Christine really showcases her songwriting talents here I think, lyrically, too.
aleuzzi
02-03-2007, 12:36 PM
she's using it as a gerund, which is an "-ing" verb that functions as a noun.
Amen. Someone knows her grammar!
aleuzzi
02-03-2007, 12:40 PM
I LOVE this song. Most of the harmonies, by the way, are Christine's, not Stevie's. She's layered herself several times underneath the lead vocal.
In many ways, this is the ultimate live performance song. It never ceases to get the crowd going.
trackaghost
02-03-2007, 02:31 PM
"walking" would function the same way as "loving." for some reason, i cannot figure out what part of the sentence "loving" is functioning as in "YMLF," or i'm sure i could be more succinct. but i'm pretty braindead right now.
-carrie "grammar junkie" c.
Carrie, you make grammar fun :laugh:
Gailh
02-03-2007, 02:37 PM
I think YMLF is of Christine's all time best but what makes it so special is that the overall band performance. No weak links.
Gail
amber
02-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Carrie, you make grammar fun :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: *groan*.
face of glass
02-03-2007, 03:37 PM
If David O. was still around he'd be saying how YMLF holds its own against the best of what Gershwin or Porter had to offer - and how it leads the way to the studio perfection of Gypsy. No arguments whatsoever from me.
Chris says on the Rumours DVD-A that this is mainly her arrangement and that only the chorus that diverts from the groove was one of Lindsey's arrangement ideas. This be true, her keyboards truly drive the track forward. I love the Rosebud doc version with the extra vocals at the end and Stevie fooling around with a guiro. Her best instrumental contribution to Fleetwood Mac for sure - she could've been the world's best guiroist if she hadn't stopped playing it! :nod:
A great song in the live environment as well with powerful plucky solos from Lindsey around 1980-1982.
carrie721
02-03-2007, 04:26 PM
Amen. Someone knows her grammar!
you betcha! (irony intentional :laugh: )
Carrie, you make grammar fun :laugh:
pahahahaha :lol:
rbs3676
02-03-2007, 06:39 PM
My favorite Christine track on RUMOURS. It's perfect, in my book. A wonderful showcase for the entire band.
On stage, she always got the everyone on their feet when she started in with the "Sweeeeeeet wonderful you..." part. Just a great song.
I miss Christine!! :nod:
rbs
foxyluva
02-04-2007, 03:27 AM
My favourite track from Christine on Rumours as well, and one of only three tracks on Rumours that I bother to listen to any more...
goldustsongbird
02-04-2007, 03:32 AM
My favourite track from Christine on Rumours as well, and one of only three tracks on Rumours that I bother to listen to any more...
What are the other two? Wait, let me guess, Silver Springs & Songbird?
foxyluva
02-04-2007, 03:40 AM
What are the other two? Wait, let me guess, Silver Springs & Songbird?
Ugh, no way to SS - I can't even listen to that version. I listen to the version from The Dance only. The two tracks are "Never Going Back Again" and "Oh Daddy (Bonus Disc Version)" :)
goldustsongbird
02-04-2007, 03:47 AM
Ugh, no way to SS - I can't even listen to that version. I listen to the version from The Dance only. The two tracks are "Never Going Back Again" and "Oh Daddy (Bonus Disc Version)" :)
Damn! Way off. I love SS... the rough/outtake on the bonus disc is so good. I've really warmed to NGBA - I used to skip it. I love the intro guitar.
foxyluva
02-04-2007, 03:56 AM
Damn! Way off. I love SS... the rough/outtake on the bonus disc is so good. I've really warmed to NGBA - I used to skip it. I love the intro guitar.
The guitaring on NGBA is incredible - its definately my favourite from the album :)
HomerMcvie
02-04-2007, 04:10 AM
Silver Springs was NOT on Rumours. Period.
All the "what ifs" in the world don't change that FACT.
goldustsongbird
02-04-2007, 04:17 AM
Silver Springs was NOT on Rumours. Period.
All the "what ifs" in the world don't change that FACT.
Oh suck it, Homie. :rolleyes:
:laugh:
skcin
02-05-2007, 01:13 PM
I love the Rosebud doc version with the extra vocals at the end and Stevie fooling around with a guiro. Her best instrumental contribution to Fleetwood Mac for sure - she could've been the world's best guiroist if she hadn't stopped playing it! :nod:
So true, so true. Everyone always talks about Stevie playing incredible tambourine, but how easily they forget her spectaculr work on the guiro. And don't even get me started on her unparalleled skills at tapping a drumstick on a wooden block.....
:laugh:
jbrownsjr
02-05-2007, 01:47 PM
I love the groove, vocals, and lyrics of this song. This song sounds so good to this day on the radio. I was in Ralph's the other day and was crusiin down the ailes to YMLF. Christine's blues background helped her pop in many ways....
I love this song live to...
When LB said her songs didn't come off well live... I begged to differ...
Don't Stop
YMLF
Hold Me
Songbird
Say You Love Me
World Turning
Save Me
Isn't It Midnight
Oh Daddy
chiliD
02-05-2007, 02:11 PM
My favourite track from Christine on Rumours as well, and one of only three tracks on Rumours that I bother to listen to any more...
Same with me...except my "other two" are "GYOW" & "I Don't Want To Know". But, even in saying that...I rarely listen to them, either.
chiliD
02-05-2007, 02:14 PM
Silver Springs was NOT on Rumours. Period.
All the "what ifs" in the world don't change that FACT.
It wasn't from 1977-2004, but since then, yes, it is.
Gailh
02-05-2007, 02:17 PM
When LB said her songs didn't come off well live... I begged to differ...
Yes that was a bit of a daft thing to say, along with her songs not being "emotionally insightful". Methinks he doth protest too much.
Sometimes it would be better for Mr Buckingham to just shut up and play.
Gail
SortaSavageLike
02-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Yes that was a bit of a daft thing to say, along with her songs not being "emotionally insightful". Methinks he doth protest too much.
Sometimes it would be better for Mr Buckingham to just shut up and play.
Gail
I'm sure he's just relieved he doesn't have Ms. McVie on stage with him, sapping his massive testosteronic masculinity and reducing him to a pale little girly man.
If a keyboard-playing English tea lady terrifies Lindsey so much, I'd hate to see him at a wedding shower! :laugh:
Gailh
02-05-2007, 02:32 PM
I'm sure he's just relieved he doesn't have Ms. McVie on stage with him, sapping his massive testosteronic masculinity and reducing him to a pale little girly man.
If a keyboard-playing English tea lady terrifies Lindsey so much, I'd hate to see him at a wedding shower! :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'm sure you're right! I don't think Lindsey likes to have anyone disagree with him. And I'd hazard a guess that Mc McVie disagreed with him a fair bit.
Gail
jbrownsjr
02-05-2007, 09:55 PM
I'm sure he's just relieved he doesn't have Ms. McVie on stage with him, sapping his massive testosteronic masculinity and reducing him to a pale little girly man.
If a keyboard-playing English tea lady terrifies Lindsey so much, I'd hate to see him at a wedding shower! :laugh:
yeah i mean we all know what a hugely masculine guy he is... a real daniel boone he is...
i said it before and i'll say it again... larry from 3's company is more masculine than lb... :D
jbrownsjr
02-05-2007, 09:57 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'm sure you're right! I don't think Lindsey likes to have anyone disagree with him. And I'd hazard a guess that Mc McVie disagreed with him a fair bit.
Gail
i think he and all band members have gone at it one time or another...
i dont mind his pursue of great experimental music... i just think he's a whiney bitch sometimes...
aleuzzi
02-06-2007, 12:18 AM
Yes that was a bit of a daft thing to say, along with her songs not being "emotionally insightful".
Gail
He said her songs were not emotionally insightful? What does that even mean? And I would imagine hers, among all three writers, are the ONLY emotionally insightful...if by this he means "deep," in which his fail, too.
HomerMcvie
02-06-2007, 02:04 AM
It wasn't from 1977-2004, but since then, yes, it is.
So are you talking about the one that sold 20 TRILLION copies, or the one that sold about 100,000, at best?:shrug:
(I have no clue how much the reissue sold):p
(Although I doubt if it cracked 100K)
macfan 57
02-06-2007, 07:11 AM
He said her songs were not emotionally insightful? What does that even mean? And I would imagine hers, among all three writers, are the ONLY emotionally insightful...if by this he means "deep," in which his fail, too.
Yes, he said that & that her songs didn't work live.:mad: I guess it was all Christine McVie's fault that Fleetwood Mac wasn't very successful all those years ago.:rolleyes:
macfan 57
02-06-2007, 07:13 AM
So are you talking about the one that sold 20 TRILLION copies, or the one that sold about 100,000, at best?:shrug:
(I have no clue how much the reissue sold):p
(Although I doubt if it cracked 100K)
I'm with Homer on this one. "Silver Springs" is a great song, but it is NOT on Rumours, at least it's not on my record that I bought 30 years ago.
Gailh
02-06-2007, 08:32 AM
He said her songs were not emotionally insightful? What does that even mean? And I would imagine hers, among all three writers, are the ONLY emotionally insightful...if by this he means "deep," in which his fail, too.
He said that about the time of the SYW tour. to be fair he was probably a bit fed up of people constantly asking about Christine - still it was a very disrespectful thing to say. Especially from someone who chose to go with the "brand name" Fleetwood Mac rather than put out his own album (Gift of Screws). Then to have the nerve to critisize someone who was just as responsible as him for creating the popularity of the "brand". As a musician I have the greatest of respect for Lindsey but he doesn't half say some daft things. Someone should slap him across the chops then chuck their wine in his face - oh sorry that's already been done! :laugh:
He was certainly very defensive about her leaving which IMO meant he knew just how must she'd be missed.
Gail
Villavic
02-06-2007, 02:13 PM
I just LOVE the song
jbrownsjr
02-06-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm with Homer on this one. "Silver Springs" is a great song, but it is NOT on Rumours, at least it's not on my record that I bought 30 years ago.
it pains me to agree with homer LOL but yes it should always be listed as a bonus track...
The Mac Stevie
02-07-2007, 01:22 AM
Yes, u make lov'n fun is definatley another great track! Likewise just about all of their songs are.......and another fav is 'Gypsy'
gldstwmn
02-07-2007, 02:15 AM
Yes, u make lov'n fun is definatley another great track! Likewise just about all of their songs are.......and another fav is 'Gypsy'
Please remove all of these links. The Ledge FAQ's specifically prohibit spamming.
GypsySorcerer
02-07-2007, 09:36 AM
When LB said her songs didn't come off well live... I begged to differ...
Don't Stop
YMLF
Hold Me
Songbird
Say You Love Me
World Turning
Save Me
Isn't It Midnight
Oh Daddy
He has also said YMLF is his favorite song of Christine's, and I think he enjoyed playing it live. Ah, members of Fleetwood Mac and their inconsistencies. :lol:
strandinthewind
02-07-2007, 10:40 AM
I did not think Hold Me came off well live, though I LOVE the song and it is one of my fav.'s of CM's as well as in general. I mean who has never just gotten up and belted it out while dancing alone at home :wavey:
As for CM being deep - - I think Songbird, Why, and a few others are very deep, but I think most of her stuff is light love songs, which is cool and great. I think LB's songs are very deep, esp. ISA's:
Days when the rain and the sun are gone
Black as night
Agony's torn at my heart too long
So afraid
Slip and I fall and I die
-- that is rather heavy and deep. Then, we have Oh Diane, which is light fluff.
As for La Nicks, it really doesn't get deeper than her lyrics and her delivery, which is intense. Her problem, if any, is that although the words are beautiful, she is so cryptic that people sometimes, to quote CM, no one knows what the hell she is talking about :laugh:
In the end, I miss the old English broad and wish she would do a reunion concert :nod:
jbrownsjr
02-07-2007, 11:43 AM
He has also said YMLF is his favorite song of Christine's, and I think he enjoyed playing it live. Ah, members of Fleetwood Mac and their inconsistencies. :lol:
no doubt... one minute they're friends... the next minute.. they're baggin each other in the media...
SortaSavageLike
02-07-2007, 11:45 AM
no doubt... one minute they're friends... the next minute.. they're baggin each other in the media...
That just reaffirms my faith in cycles.
jbrownsjr
02-07-2007, 12:26 PM
That just reaffirms my faith in cycles.
hahahahaha!!! what a bunch of goofs!!!
strandinthewind
02-07-2007, 01:12 PM
no doubt... one minute they're friends... the next minute.. they're baggin each other in the media...
I think they do that on purpose. Drama sells :shrug:
jbrownsjr
02-07-2007, 10:18 PM
I think they do that on purpose. Drama sells :shrug:
if anyone proved that... they did
strandinthewind
02-08-2007, 12:15 AM
if anyone proved that... they did
Could you IMAGINE Cm and John interacting like that onstage :laugh:
But, even they are/were not above hauling out the drama to sell The Dance in the tv press before it.
I say good for them all as it got us 10 more years of great music.
jbrownsjr
02-08-2007, 02:13 AM
Could you IMAGINE Cm and John interacting like that onstage :laugh:
But, even they are/were not above hauling out the drama to sell The Dance in the tv press before it.
I say good for them all as it got us 10 more years of great music.
if someone was gonna pay me 100 dollars a ticket all over the world to re enact with my ex dramas on stage... i would be up there doing it!!
would i feel guilty about it or apologize for it.....
no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dreamz19
02-09-2007, 12:53 AM
:mad: I'm bored. :shrug: This place is way too dead lately, esp. this forum. So I'm doing another song discussion/like or dislike/love it or hate it thread. Please post your thoughts on the song. I'm not doing a poll - it's too easy to vote & then not tell us why you voted the way you did. ;)
YMLF is one of my most loved Christine-penned Mac tunes. The music, the lyrics, the tempo, the vocals - superb. I feel a hint of a disco vibe to it - but it's not a "disco" or "dance" song, it's still a definite rocker. Many artists made similar attempts at this, but failed miserably - Rod's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" and the horrid "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss come to mind - I wish I could forget them. But YMLF is fantastic; modern & current when it was released, a classic now. And it's sexy as hell. :cool:
Love love love older live versions of it, Stevie's backup harmonies perfectly compliment Chris's lead vocal. "and I'm beGINNING to wonder whyyyyy.......I've a FEELING it's time to tryyyy....." Second only to their vocal fabulousness on Rhiannon & Oh Daddy, IMO. Anyway, another thing that I love about it is the little musical break/jam in the middle. It's so tight, but sounds spontaneous to my ears. Love that although Lindsey does have a solo in there, it doesn't overshadow the other instruments at all, unlike some other songs. The thing I tend to play back in my head is actually Mick's drumming, the cymbals (I think.)
I love YMLF :) That song and "Over My Head" made me love Christine. I remembered hearing "Little Lies" "Everywhere" and "Don't Stop" as a child but I never knew it was FM/Christine. Before then I was mostly familiar with Stevie's songs. When I finally discovered from my Uncle who Stevie was and what group she was in I brought "The Very Best of FM." I would skip over some of Christine's songs (very ashamed to say that now but I have seen the light) but one day I let YMLF play through and I was like "damn I like this song." I started playing it to death and the rest is history.
I also love the older live versions where Stevie harmonies are better heard. I was just looking for the Rosebud performace of it on youtube the other night but it was taken off for copyright issues :mad:
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