VH1 Classic's Top 20 Women In Rock - No Stevie!

[jwd]

I don't know how to break this to you guys, but Stevie didn't make the cut.... Hard to believe I know. I think we should all bobmbard the station and strangle them with our boas and stomp on them with our stilletos! :lol:

Here's the list:

20) annie lennox
19) joan jett
18) cyndi lauper
17) gloria estefan
16) the bangles
15) chrissie hynde
14) carly simon
13) debbie harry
12) pat benetar
11) cher
10) donna summer
9) carole king
8) janet jackson
7) mariah carey
6) go-go's
5) heart
4) tina turner
3) aretha franklin
2) whitney houston
1) madonna

:eek: Where's Sheryl Crow, Bonnie Raitt, Janis, and Linda Ronstadt?

Frickin' tards!

:wavey:

[UnwindedDreams]

I don't know how to break this to you guys, but Stevie didn't make the cut.... Hard to believe I know. I think we should all bobmbard the station and strangle them with our boas and stomp on them with our stilletos! :lol:

Here's the list:

20) annie lennox
19) joan jett
18) cyndi lauper
17) gloria estefan
16) the bangles
15) chrissie hynde
14) carly simon
13) debbie harry
12) pat benetar
11) cher
10) donna summer
9) carole king
8) janet jackson
7) mariah carey
6) go-go's
5) heart
4) tina turner
3) aretha franklin
2) whitney houston
1) madonna

:eek: Where's Sheryl Crow, Bonnie Raitt, Janis, and Linda Ronstadt?

Frickin' tards!

:wavey: whitney, madge, mariah, janet, and gloria...imo shouldn't be there...

[SortaSavageLike]

Cyndi Lauper, Cher, Donna Summer, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, and Madonna don't qualify as "rock" stars in my book. Unless any of them had a SOTM or EO17 or even a Rosebud Rhiannon moment when I wasn't looking. :rolleyes:

(Also Pat Benatar makes me want to smash things with big sticks, but she's more of a rock star than most of the others and belongs on the list anyway.)

[ryan8472]

The notion that any of those women are more rock & roll than Chrissie Hynde and Joan Jett makes me sick. :distress: :mad:

[goldustsongbird]

Cyndi Lauper, Cher, Donna Summer, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, and Madonna don't qualify as "rock" stars in my book. Unless any of them had a SOTM or EO17 or even a Rosebud Rhiannon moment when I wasn't looking. :rolleyes:

(Also Pat Benatar makes me want to smash things with big sticks, but she's more of a rock star than most of the others and belongs on the list anyway.)

Cyndi has/had a lot of those! :p She's a madwoman onstage. Don't be ignorant.

Pat Benetar is kinda... eh. Not my cup of tea.

[goldustsongbird]

[singing]
"u took the words right outta my mouth . . .
it musta been while you were a kissing me . . ."


thanks for the smooch:xoxo:

I guess it was as good for you as it was for me? :p

[SortaSavageLike]

Cyndi has/had a lot of those! :p She's a madwoman onstage. Don't be ignorant.

Pat Benetar is kinda... eh. Not my cup of tea.

Is there anyone in the world over the age of, oh, 16, who can listen to Love Is a Battlefield with a straight face? :laugh:

[ryan8472]

Is there anyone in the world over the age of, oh, 16, who can listen to Love Is a Battlefield with a straight face? :laugh:

Oh I love that song. :o :laugh: :nod:

[goldustsongbird]

Is there anyone in the world over the age of, oh, 16, who can listen to Love Is a Battlefield with a straight face? :laugh:

Ryan, apparently. :lol:

[carrie721]

Is there anyone in the world over the age of, oh, 16, who can listen to Love Is a Battlefield with a straight face? :laugh:

yes.

:lol:

i agree with you about cyndi, though, and i LOVE cyndi. love her. she just doesn't belong on a r&r list.

[jannieC]

Seems as though the list could have spared Gloria and The Bangles. :shrug: It always amazes me how these lists include artists that have nothing to do with the genre...The Go-Go's, Mariah, Janet, etc. Eh, what do I know.

Pat Benatar had some great music back in the day- Promises in the Dark, Hell is for Children, Heartbreaker, Shadows of the Night- all great songs.

[HejiraNYC]

I could possibly see how the regular VH1 channel would neglect to mention Stevie (since she hasn't released any new solo music in almost six years), but VH1 Classic??? No Stevie? No Joni? No Siouxsie? No Patti Smith? ... but Mariah, Gloria and Madonna? Totally f***ing crazy.

[carrie721]

Seems as though the list could have spared Gloria and The Bangles. :shrug: It always amazes me how these lists include artists that have nothing to do with the genre...The Go-Go's, Mariah, Janet, etc. Eh, what do I know.

Pat Benatar had some great music back in the day- Promises in the Dark, Hell is for Children, Heartbreaker, Shadows of the Night- all great songs.

i agree - i think about a third of that list shouldn't be on there. whoever created the list seriously blurred the lines of "rock" and "pop" ... they are different things!

agreed about PB too. bitch knows how to work it.

[ontheEdgeof17]

We must remember that music stations use the term "rock and roll" loosely. When they say "rock and roll", they mean music in general.

With that said, this list still sucks.

[greatdarkwing]

GLORIA ESTEFAN?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Even as a fellow CUBAN, Gloria Estefan induces vomiting, headaches, and the uncontrolable urge to drive your car into a canal (Or to Conga off of a cliff)...the choice is yours...

Plus, she is no where NEAR rock and roll....

[ryan8472]

seen the vid??
[whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoooooooooooooa . . . .we are young . . . .]

Of course! That's how I dance. :o

:p

[ontheEdgeof17]

GLORIA ESTEFAN?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Even as a fellow CUBAN, Gloria Estefan induces vomiting, headaches, and the uncontrolable urge to drive your car into a canal (Or to Conga off of a cliff)...the choice is yours...

Plus, she is no where NEAR rock and roll....

:laugh:

What about the Congo Walk? I was wanting to rush the stage at her show.

[greatdarkwing]

:laugh:

What about the Congo Walk? I was wanting to rush the stage at her show.

Congratulations, you and 2 other people were probably the only ones! I've had to take my grandmother to the past 2 Gloria Estefan shows.... (One for charity a couple of months ago and then back in '04). I NEVER thought I would have found an artist who has a smaller range then Stevie, until I saw Gloria Estefan...Stevie might cling to 3 notes, but Gloria struggles to get to 2!

[Johnny Stew]

Funny thing... the other day I said something about Stevie being dubbed the "Queen of Rock" by Rolling Stone in 1981, and my uncle and brother both said, "Stevie Nicks has NEVER been true 'rock & roll'!"
So I think the "rock" tag has different meanings to different people.

At any rate, it surprises me to see a few of those ladies on the list at the expense of Stevie... but then Stevie is also in very good company with a lot of the equally deserving women they left off.

Having said that, she was placed at #14 on VH1's "100 Greatest Women of Rock & Roll" list several years back, and I consider that list to be far more definitive than this one.

[Johnny Stew]

Oh yeah, and I happen to like Pat Benatar. :p

[carrie721]

Oh yeah, and I happen to like Pat Benatar. :p

me too. it's okay, we'll form a support group. :lol:

weeeeeeeeee belong ... :cool:

[ontheEdgeof17]

^Can I be the Secretary?


ALLLLL FIRED UP@$#$%@!!!

[carrie721]

^Can I be the Secretary?


ALLLLL FIRED UP@$#$%@!!!

sure. we can call ourselves hell's children.

wow, i am a geeeeeeek.

[Johnny Stew]

^Can I be the Secretary?You sure can, Curtie, and WE WILL BE INVINCIBLE!!!

[Rickypt]

Is there anyone in the world over the age of, oh, 16, who can listen to Love Is a Battlefield with a straight face? :laugh:

Uh, yes. :D This stupid 20 list is filled with disco and dance divas that are not rock and roll. Pat Benatar is a classic woman rock and roller whether you like her or not.

[danax6]

I want to join the I-like-Pat-Benetar-but-this-list-sucks group, can I? :D

[Sahara]

Having said that, she was placed at #14 on VH1's "100 Greatest Women of Rock & Roll" list several years back, and I consider that list to be far more definitive than this one.

She was 14?! :shocked: Wow! I knew she was on the list but I didn't think she was so high up! That's brilliant!

.....Then why on earth is she not here? That makes no sense at all... :shrug:

PS: Sheryl doesn't deserve to be there, I don't think... :sorry:

[Musicman408]

We must remember that music stations use the term "rock and roll" loosely. When they say "rock and roll", they mean music in general.

With that said, this list still sucks.

I wholeheartedly agree.......:nod:

[skcin]

It was the 20 Greatest Women in Music, btw. Not rock.

Although I'm still pretty surprised Stevie or Janis didn't make it. or Grace Slick. Or Bonnie Raitt. Or Joni Mitchell. I won't even get started on classic artists like Etta James....

[Rickypt]

It was the 20 Greatest Women in Music, btw. Not rock.

Oh, well then the list is even more insane.

Dolly?

[carrie721]

Oh, well then the list is even more insane.

Dolly?

and emmy****inlou? this list blows even more now.

[gldstwmn]

These lists are a joke.

[THINKABOUTIT]

I hear you guys!!!!!!!!!!! I watched it and was dying!!!!!!!!!! :mad: Whitney (****ing) Houston is number 2???!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Where's Janis??? Dolly??? Someone help me before I choke :]

[jwd]

Here's a link to VH1 Classic's site of the TOP 20 Women in ROCK :laugh: Videos and all!

http://www.vh1.com/channels/vh1_classic/channel.jhtml?extPop=popVspot(1548930)

[mikeschmike]

It was the 20 Greatest Women in Music, btw. Not rock.

Although I'm still pretty surprised Stevie or Janis didn't make it. or Grace Slick. Or Bonnie Raitt. Or Joni Mitchell. I won't even get started on classic artists like Etta James....

Have you ever heard of Big Mama Thornton? She was a major influence on Janis, and her music is awesome. Her record of Ball and Chain is something to behold.

So yeah, the narrowminded gen x'er that made this list needs to brush up on his music. :nod:

[amber]

I hear you guys!!!!!!!!!!! I watched it and was dying!!!!!!!!!! :mad: Whitney (****ing) Houston is number 2???!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

:]

Yeah, if cracked out gorgeous screechers are going to be that high on the list, Stevie should be number one.

WTF is with the Benatar bashers? That woman's voice can shatter ceramic, and I love her. Her voice is like a tidal wave, spinning over my head!!! She's definitely the right kind of sinner to release my inner fantasies.
It is odd to me that someone can think "women in music" and not think of Stevie, especially as everybody likes Stevie Nicks.

[jwd]

WTF is with the Benatar bashers?

For real. I think she's one who does belong on the list. But I do agree that when I watch the "Invincible" video, not so much the song, it's hard to hold back a laugh or two. :laugh:

[danax6]

Here's a link to VH1 Classic's site of the TOP 20 Women in ROCK :laugh: Videos and all!

http://www.vh1.com/channels/vh1_classic/channel.jhtml?extPop=popVspot(1548930)Great, only Americans are allowed to watch this. :rolleyes:

[SortaSavageLike]

Yeah, if cracked out gorgeous screechers are going to be that high on the list, Stevie should be number one.

WTF is with the Benatar bashers? That woman's voice can shatter ceramic,

So can Yoko Ono. :rolleyes:

[Karlie]

This list is seriously messed up. They should get rid of Gloria, Cher, Janet, Mariah, and Whitney. Replace with Stevie, Janis, Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, and Grace Slick.

[goldustsongbird]

This list is seriously messed up. They should get rid of Gloria, Cher, Janet, Mariah, and Whitney. Replace with Stevie, Janis, Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, and Grace Slick.

Srsly. :nod:

[DrummerDeanna]

I hate these lists.

[estranged4life]

I hate these lists.

I turned it off when it came on TV the other night (As I did with the other "Top 20" shows that VH1 Classis is showing this week).

[Hawkeye]

Have you ever heard of Big Mama Thornton? She was a major influence on Janis, and her music is awesome. Her record of Ball and Chain is something to behold.

So yeah, the narrowminded gen x'er that made this list needs to brush up on his music. :nod:

Yea, I think her version (the original actually) of Houndog is FAR better then Elvis's.

[gldstwmn]

Pat Benatar had some great music back in the day- Promises in the Dark, Hell is for Children, Heartbreaker, Shadows of the Night- all great songs.

She really did rock out. And Stevie has mentioned her as a peer.

[gldstwmn]

So can Yoko Ono. :rolleyes:

But not in a good way. Bless her heart.

[skcin]

Here's a link to VH1 Classic's site of the TOP 20 Women in ROCK :laugh: Videos and all!

http://www.vh1.com/channels/vh1_classic/channel.jhtml?extPop=popVspot(1548930)


Sorry. I swear it said music, I actually rewound my Tivo to check the title because I was confused why Mariah was on a rock list. :shrug:

[jwd]

Sorry. I swear it said music, I actually rewound my Tivo to check the title because I was confused why Mariah was on a rock list. :shrug:

I think at some point it actually did say "music". :shrug: Music, rock, pop...it's all the same, all the same, :p to VH1(Classic). Whatever the hell it was a list of, I think we'd all agree it SUCKED!

[TheWILDheart]

I don't know how to break this to you guys, but Stevie didn't make the cut.... Hard to believe I know. I think we should all bobmbard the station and strangle them with our boas and stomp on them with our stilletos! :lol:

Here's the list:

20) annie lennox
19) joan jett
18) cyndi lauper
17) gloria estefan
16) the bangles
15) chrissie hynde
14) carly simon
13) debbie harry
12) pat benetar
11) cher
10) donna summer
9) carole king
8) janet jackson
7) mariah carey
6) go-go's
5) heart
4) tina turner
3) aretha franklin
2) whitney houston
1) madonna

:eek: Where's Sheryl Crow, Bonnie Raitt, Janis, and Linda Ronstadt?

Frickin' tards!

:wavey:


No Stevie, No Tori, No Dolores, No Gwen (No Doubt Days), No Shirley, No Sheryl, No Tracey, No Jacqui, No Amy, No Kirsty, No Sharlene. . .DAMN THIS LIST!!

[Johnny Stew]

And where's Suzy Quatro? I mean, really, how could they leave off the lady who played Leather Tuscadero!?!

[TheWILDheart]

and....NO KATE BUSH :eek:

I am still peaved that Stevie, Tori Amos and Dolores thingy from The Cranberries are absent from this list.

[goldustsongbird]

and....NO KATE BUSH :eek:

I am still peaved that Stevie, Tori Amos and Dolores thingy from The Cranberries are absent from this list.

lol, "Delores thingy." Yeah, this list is pretty incomplete. I don't know if I'd add Tori... Maybe if this were 1995... But Kate & Delores def. should be on there.

[TheWILDheart]

lol, "Delores thingy." Yeah, this list is pretty incomplete. I don't know if I'd add Tori... Maybe if this were 1995... But Kate & Delores def. should be on there.

Shirley Manson and Tracy Chapman are also absent. DAMN THIS CRAPY TOP 20!! and WHERE is Belinda Carlisle?? Damn there are so many missing..

[chiliD]

:eek: Where's Sheryl Crow, Bonnie Raitt, Janis, and Linda Ronstadt?

Grace Slick
Etta James
Patti Smith
Joni Mitchell
Yoko Ono (no, I'm NOT kidding)
Annie Haslam
Patty Loveless
Gretchen Wilson
Wynonna
Mavis Staples
Koko Taylor
Bessie Smith
Ruth Brown
Leontyne Price
Joan Sutherland
Cleo Laine

And the list goes on...

[ontheEdgeof17]

Gretchen Wilson

What?


Mavis Staples
Koko Taylor
Bessie Smith
Ruth Brown
Leontyne Price
Joan Sutherland
Cleo Laine

Who?

[chiliD]

What?



Who?

Obviously it's time to expand your horizons.

[Johnny Stew]

Obviously it's time to expand your horizons.Yeah, but you sort of damaged your credibility when you mentioned Yoko Ono with a straight face. ;)

[shackin'up]

you can put every bitch on the planet on this list, but if you leave out Janis Joplin? Go hang yourself.

[mikeschmike]

you can put every bitch on the planet on this list, but if you leave out Janis Joplin? Go hang yourself.

agreed. this list was probably thrown together in a hurry without much thought.

[jadegypsy]

"you can put every bitch on the planet on this list, but if you leave out Janis Joplin? Go hang yourself."

Totally agree!

And where the hell is Grace Slick, like hello VH1 she was one of the only women to front a band in the 60's. Not to mention she hung around through the 70's and 80's.

Joan Jett should be higher, Joni Mitchelle could be on here instead of the Bangles.

[nwestohiofan]

WHAT THE ****????

I would have guessed Stevie in the top 5.

WOW

VH1 has been so good to Stevie in the pat.

SHAME!

[jwd]

Grace Slick
Etta James
Patti Smith
Joni Mitchell
Yoko Ono (no, I'm NOT kidding)
Annie Haslam
Patty Loveless
Gretchen Wilson
Wynonna
Mavis Staples
Koko Taylor
Bessie Smith
Ruth Brown
Leontyne Price
Joan Sutherland
Cleo Laine

And the list goes on...


Yeah, I'm scratching my head about Yoko Ono too, unless it was an inspirational type thing she gave to John Lennon that you are crediting her for. Why DID you list Yoko? :laugh:

But what I REALLY want to know is, would you have ranked Stevie on the greatest women list in either MUSIC, ROCK, or POP?

I would have ranked her in all three categories, with ROCK being her strongest one!

[Hawkeye]

Well she does a pretty good job singing on Happy Christmas and you're right about her inspiring some of John's greatest songs )although Im guessing thats not even what Chili's talking about.

[skcin]

Obviously it's time to expand your horizons.

So why not help him out by telling him who they are, some tunes they sang/played on, band associations, etc. Oh wait, you wouldn't be as cool & superior if you did that. God forbid a 23 year old isn't familiar with all the musical artists that you are. Jesus, Chili. :mad:

[bikerchic]

So why not help him out by telling him who they are, some tunes they sang/played on, band associations, etc. Oh wait, you wouldn't be as cool & superior if you did that. God forbid a 23 year old isn't familiar with all the musical artists that you are. Jesus, Chili. :mad:

Is it that time? :] :laugh:

[NicksforLife]

It's just not right that Stevie is'nt on that list :distress:

[goldustsongbird]

Is it that time? :] :laugh:

:lol:

Someone got told... (chili, not Paula)

[jwd]

Well she does a pretty good job singing on Happy Christmas and you're right about her inspiring some of John's greatest songs )although Im guessing thats not even what Chili's talking about.

I'll guess we'll never know............