Richest Rumours-era Bandmember [Archive]

chiliD

11-21-2006, 06:34 PM

I'd say Lindsey. At least when it comes to who still HAS the most money. Mick & Stevie put theirs up their noses (and other reputed orifices); John & Christine drank theirs (with Christine also dabbling in the naughty powder there for awhile herself). Lindsey seemed to be more fiscally conservative (and having less expensive vices) than the rest.

Johnny Stew

11-21-2006, 06:40 PM

I believe Stevie told Rolling Stone in 1997 that Lindsey is the most financially stable of the group, because he didn't spend as excessively as she and the others did.

Overall, she probably MADE more money, but she spent what she made.

danax6

11-21-2006, 06:57 PM

I agree, I think Stevie made the most because she has more albums and tours on her name, but Lindsey has the most. Though, with all those producer credits, isn't he likely to get paid more than the rest also?

DavidMn

11-21-2006, 07:00 PM

I dont think there's any doubt Mick spent the most money.:laugh:

Sahara

11-21-2006, 07:03 PM

Interesting thread!

No ideas of my own to offer, good points about who spent what and so on....

Anything to mention about Lindsey's house that he was building during the making of SYW? Does that affect this?

strandinthewind

11-21-2006, 07:43 PM

I think La Nicks has made the most money - I mean the Dixie Chick's cover of Landslide made her millions :shrug: Plus, she has sold like 10 million more records worldwide and has toured way more than anyone else in the band. I think she spent lots of it, but I tend to think placing her wealth at over $50 million is not out of the question when you consider Lionel Ritchie has like over $100 million. I tend to think LB kept the most of it and he made more on the FM stuff he produced. I mean the man had a $20 million house for goodness sake :laugh:

In the end, I think it is fair to say the poorest, probably Mick, has like $20 million and the richest - either Stevie or LB are worth way over $50 million.

Also, in all of this is the way any part of that was invested. LA property has multiplied by five in some of the ritzy areas. Plus, the stock market over the last 15 years averaged like 10+%. So, who knows.

Also, according Mick and I think a few of the members, they lost money on the Tusk tour or at least they did not make as much as they should have at the time.

Maybe they would like to adopt me :nod:

Peestie

11-21-2006, 07:59 PM

Though, with all those producer credits, isn't he likely to get paid more than the rest also?

That's what I was thinking. Wouldn't he get a slightly larger cut from royalties on albums like TITN and Mirage where the rest of the band aren't credited as producers i.e. They're all credited as producers on the 1975-79 records, yes? no? I know with Tusk it was "with special thanks to Lindsey Buckingham" or whatever it says, so does that mean he gets more producer royalties? :shrug: .

AliceLover

11-21-2006, 08:06 PM

ontheEdgeof17

11-21-2006, 08:17 PM

I think La Nicks has made the most money - I mean the Dixie Chick's cover of Landslide made her millions :shrug:

Not to mention how much Caesars payed her for her May gig.

I'm sure all 5 are pretty well off financially, with Stevie leading the pack.

BombaySapphire3

11-21-2006, 11:52 PM

I think it would be Stevie, but I think Christine would be next in line. You have to remember....Its her songs that are still getting played on the radio. I can't tell you how many times I've heard You Make lovin Fun, Don't Stop, Little Lies, or Say You Love Me.

According to a UK list Christine has 25 million pounds ..isn't that close to $50 million? not sure what the conversion rate is now.Mick is definately the poorest which is funny considering he is also the most venal and grasping.

HejiraNYC

11-22-2006, 12:37 AM

Overall, she probably MADE more money, but she spent what she made.

Well, she's been off blow for twenty years now. So what could she possibly be spending money on now? Buddah knows it's not on new clothes! :rolleyes:

HejiraNYC

11-22-2006, 12:56 AM

In the end, I think it is fair to say the poorest, probably Mick, has like $20 million and the richest - either Stevie or LB are worth way over $50 million.

Oh, I think Mick is worth much less than that! Remember, he's the one who was sleeping in a trailer in Lindsey's yard at one point. Considering he was pretty much penniless right before TITN, and he does not get any publishing or production royalties (The Chain and Lizard People excepted :p), and he gets a smaller fee for live concerts than Mama or Papa, I think he probably is in the low single-millions, if that. John is probably wealthier, although I hear that boating can pretty much suck the last penny out of your wallet.

I suspect that Mama is the clear winner in the financial game. She is the most prolific, the most active, and by far the most commercially successful. The only thing that she does not get is the production royalties, which I am sure are quite substantial just for "Rumours" alone. But Lindsey probably has to split this with Ken Caillat and Richard Dashut. Also, Lindsey has not had nearly as many hit FM singles as the ladies. Lindsey's no slouch, but considering his relative inactivity with FM and the nonexistent commercial success of his solo career, I suspect he is probably in the 30-40 million range. Stevie is probably in the 50-75 million range. She probably made $500 just from radio airplay in the time it took me to type this! :eek:

macfan 57

11-22-2006, 06:18 AM

According to a UK list Christine has 25 million pounds ..isn't that close to $50 million? not sure what the conversion rate is now.Mick is definately the poorest which is funny considering he is also the most venal and grasping.

Yes, that's close to $50 million. That list was from back in 1998. I'm sure her net worth has gone up quite a bit during those 8 years, assuming that she's a smart investor. Her properties have certainly appreciated since then. In several of her interviews 2 years ago, she was asked how rich she was. She said she "wasn't Elton John, but who the hell needs that much money".:laugh:

That same list from Q Magazine also listed John & Mick. I believe John was around $5 million & Mick was around $2-3 million.

Gailh

11-22-2006, 08:17 AM

I'm sure the three writers would have made more than Mick and John.

I'd say Stevie then Lindsey then Christine simply because Stevie and Lindsey have carried on making music and Christine has pretty much retired now.

As Macfan says a UK magazine had Christine's wealth estimated at £25,000,000. But I'm sure the article also said it was difficult to arrive at an accurate figure for people who spent much of their working lives abroad. so that figure might have under-estimated her true wealth.

Christine always strikes me as being very clever with money (after all the drink and drugs excesses were over) and I expect she gets very good advice.

I imagine she's comfortably off especially as each year the UK government gives all pensioners £200 towards their fuel costs and I expect she has a free bus pass :laugh:

Gail

macfan 57

11-22-2006, 08:52 AM

I imagine she's comfortably off especially as each year the UK government gives all pensioners £200 towards their fuel costs and I expect she has a free bus pass :laugh:

Gail

Christine McVie taking the bus.:laugh: :laugh:

Gailh

11-22-2006, 09:22 AM

Christine McVie taking the bus.:laugh: :laugh:

Where she lives in Kent I bet there's only or two a day to and from Canterbury

Gail

JazmenFlowers

11-22-2006, 09:23 AM

I think La Nicks has made the most money - I mean the Dixie Chick's cover of Landslide made her millions :shrug:
yep. this is the main reason I think Stevie has the most dough. besides Landslide, there's the Dreams remix, the cover of Stand Back which was pretty successful AND the Bootylicious sample.
That same list from Q Magazine also listed John & Mick. I believe John was around $5 million & Mick was around $2-3 million.
that's all?! I'm shocked.

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 11:23 AM

. . . $500 just from radio airplay in the time it took me to type this! :eek:

THAT BITCH :mad:

But seriously, I agree with your post.

I do wonder, however, how much their investments have added to the wealth. I mean if they invested even 10% of the money starting in 1975, they would likely be worth well over $50 million on that alone.

Maybe some interviewer should ask them LOL.

I do find it interesting that LB seemed worried about money in the DR doc - that part about la Nicks backing out of the tour after a certain amount of dates, he had a family to support (in their $20 million) house :laugh: ) - etc.

Also, from the looks of it in that magazine last year, that house La Nicks bought on the beach in LA (Malibu?) had to have cost over $10 million.

I think they should adopt me :D

JazmenFlowers

11-22-2006, 11:27 AM

I think they should adopt me :D
could you imagine?

us, in La Nicks' house...the world would ignite from all the fabulousity

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 11:28 AM

could you imagine?

us, in La Nicks' house...the world would ignite from all the fabulousity

As the scene cuts to Jaz and Strand, already shod like Mame Dennis in Sally Cato's 3B's - fighting over a cape :eek:

JazmenFlowers

11-22-2006, 11:37 AM

- fighting over a cape :eek:
lmao. :lol:

you can have the cape. as long as I get the boots.

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 11:44 AM

lmao. :lol:

you can have the cape. as long as I get the boots.

I am picturing Cuddles Kovinsky (Edith Massey) trying on that dress and it splits in the film "Polyester" - THOSE DAMN DESIGNERS :laugh:

gldstwmn

11-22-2006, 12:24 PM

carrie721

11-22-2006, 01:16 PM

Not sure about paid more. The producer gets paid first.

but the production royalties are in addition to writing/performing royalties, right? so he would be making more?

HejiraNYC

11-22-2006, 01:21 PM

I do wonder, however, how much their investments have added to the wealth. I mean if they invested even 10% of the money starting in 1975, they would likely be worth well over $50 million on that alone.

I would kinda assume that most of the 70's money was basically burned. Houses, cars, parties, limos, booger-sugar :eek:, etc. Work hard, play hard. Plus, when you're splitting the publishing three ways and the list price of an album was $8.98, it's a small piece of a small pie. And concert tickets were only like $7. :eek: Oh, those were the days... I suspect that the money didn't really start piling up until the mid eighties, when CD sales started to kick in, and when everyone got sober, and everyone finally started "thinking about tomorrow."

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 01:37 PM

^^^

True - but hotel suites were $100 a night, cars were $10,000 or less, houses were way cheaper, gas was $2.25 a gallon (HEY WAIT A MINUTE :laugh: )

Joking aside, I wonder if they had "people" managing their money. I know many did back then -- though I am sure much of it went pretty fast, which they admit happened in the Tusk tour.

Didn't Stevie day she was a millionaire within six months of joing FM. That some big cash back then.

chiliD

11-22-2006, 02:13 PM

I know with Tusk it was "with special thanks to Lindsey Buckingham" or whatever it says, so does that mean he gets more producer royalties? :shrug: .

No, "special thanks" doesn't equate into $$$$. Now if it said "produced BY" then cha-CHING!!!.

mylittledemon

11-22-2006, 03:03 PM

No, "special thanks" doesn't equate into $$$$. Now if it said "produced BY" then cha-CHING!!!.

yeah ole' Bucky got stiffed on Tusk in those terms didnt he?

Stevie_Buck

11-22-2006, 03:54 PM

I'd say Stevie then and Stevie now. Lindsey may have a nice chunk of change, but I suspect having a wife and family takes a good bit away from that. :shrug: Although Stevie isn't lacking in people to support either.

Johnny Stew

11-22-2006, 04:09 PM

Although Stevie isn't lacking in people to support either.Isn't that the truth! She always has scores of people living in her house, and I doubt she charges any of them rent.
Plus, I've read in the past that she's signed over royalties from various songs, to friends who were down on their luck.

It seems that for as much money as she spends on herself, she's every bit as generous about spending it on others.

I'm remembering an interview she did, I think around the mid '90s, where she said that she didn't have enough money to fix a crack in the foundation of her pool -- until royalty payments from Smashing Pumpkins' "Landslide" started coming in (or was it Hole's "Gold Dust Woman"?). Seems hard to imagine, but I guess anything is possible.

BTFLCHLD

11-22-2006, 04:15 PM

eh, I am not a numbers-cruncher. no doubt they are all doing just fine.

seriously strand, adoption? Lindsey would be hard pressed even with your attempt at puppyeyes to the window. ;)
Besides, he may have money troubles feeding your expensive taste. :rolleyes:

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 04:18 PM

. . . Besides, he may have money troubles feeding your expensive taste. :rolleyes:

Believe me, many have tried, to their chagrain :D

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 04:20 PM

Isn't that the truth! She always has scores of people living in her house, and I doubt she charges any of them rent.
Plus, I've read in the past that she's signed over royalties from various songs, to friends who were down on their luck.

It seems that for as much money as she spends on herself, she's every bit as generous about spending it on others.

I'm remembering an interview she did, I think around the mid '90s, where she said that she didn't have enough money to fix a crack in the foundation of her pool -- until royalty payments from Smashing Pumpkins' "Landslide" started coming in (or was it Hole's "Gold Dust Woman"?). Seems hard to imagine, but I guess anything is possible.

It was Landslide - and I highly doubt that she had no money to fix it :laugh: I think she just associated the money with the repair so that she did not have to pay for it out of her prior earned $$$.

trackaghost

11-22-2006, 04:20 PM

I'm remembering an interview she did, I think around the mid '90s, where she said that she didn't have enough money to fix a crack in the foundation of her pool -- until royalty payments from Smashing Pumpkins' "Landslide" started coming in (or was it Hole's "Gold Dust Woman"?). Seems hard to imagine, but I guess anything is possible.

That's a heartbreaking tale about that crack in her swimming pool, Brian. It must have been a very difficult time for her.
(I'm just kidding ya really :D I know Stevie is very generous, which is all part of her charm. Hope you're okay btw!)

trackaghost

11-22-2006, 04:23 PM

BTFLCHLD

11-22-2006, 04:24 PM

Believe me, many have tried, to their chagrain :D ahh yes many a bene in your line of work. :lol:

Johnny Stew

11-22-2006, 04:28 PM

That's a heartbreaking tale about that crack in her swimming pool, Brian. It must have been a very difficult time for her.
(I'm just kidding ya really :D I know Stevie is very generous, which is all part of her charm. Hope you're okay btw!):laugh:

Oh, I hear you! You have to love the irony of not having enough money to fix a crack in one's inground pool on one's multi-million dollar property!
To have such problems! :laugh:

Still, I always thought it was an interesting comment -- and made me wonder if Stevie (at least at that particular point in time) was really as rich as I had always assumed she was. Or if times got pretty "lean" (well, comparatively so) for her for a while there.

And I'm doing better -- thank you. I hope all is going well for you, too, Sharon. :xoxo:

Johnny Stew

11-22-2006, 04:30 PM

It was Landslide - and I highly doubt that she had no money to fix it :laugh: I think she just associated the money with the repair so that she did not have to pay for it out of her prior earned $$$.The more I think back to it, the more I believe you're right, Jason.
It's most likely that she didn't mean it in an "oh, poor pitiful me, I don't have enough money to fix my pool" kind of way, AT ALL.
It was probably more of an "it was great that they recorded my song -- plus the royalties allowed me to fix my pool, so that was a nice bonus."

strandinthewind

11-22-2006, 04:35 PM

I believe you're right, Jason.
I honestly don't think she meant it in a "oh, poor pitiful me, I don't have enough money to fix my pool" kind of comment, AT ALL.
It was more of a "it was great that they recorded my song -- plus the royalties allowed me to fix my pool, so that was a nice bonus."

There was another interview around that time or earlier when La Nicks lamented that her mom told her that she would not qualify for a mortgage :eek:

danax6

11-22-2006, 07:24 PM

:laugh:

Oh, I hear you! You have to love the irony of not having enough money to fix a crack in one's inground pool on one's multi-million dollar property!
To have such problems! :laugh:

Still, I always thought it was an interesting comment -- and made me wonder if Stevie (at least at that particular point in time) was really as rich as I had always assumed she was. Or if times got pretty "lean" (well, comparatively so) for her for a while there.

And I'm doing better -- thank you. I hope all is going well for you, too, Sharon. :xoxo:Isn't the mid-90s also when those reports of her having tax issues came in? I don't exactly remember what they were about, but I doubt they were talking only a few dollars.

I agree with whoever said that Stevie had/has a lot of people to support. I wouldn't be surprised if through the years there were quite a few people who abused Stevie's generosity and her innate need to please people. How many times, especially in the late 80's/early 90's, has she said that she could never quit because so many people depend on her?

PsychCat

11-22-2006, 08:32 PM

I know I would be happy with just the royalties from "Go Your Own Way".
That song is on more than a couple of soundtracks... two I know of off hand: Casino and Forrest Gump. :cool:

WelshWitchPMD

11-23-2006, 07:57 AM

Lindsey may have a nice chunk of change, but I suspect having a wife and family takes a good bit away from that. :shrug: .

I agree. I mean someone has to pay for Kristen's boots and big ass camera.:laugh:

strandinthewind

11-23-2006, 08:42 AM

As for K - he could spend $20,000 a month on her and the kids, that is just $240,000 a year. If he has over $50,000,000 and earns over a million a year in investment income (that is at a VERY conservative 2% a year) -- it will take a long time to run through his money :nod:

Songbird4

11-23-2006, 12:18 PM

This is a really great topic. I have often wondered....don't Mick and John own the name Fleetwood Mac though?? Do they receive anything for that??

~Kim

HomerMcvie

11-23-2006, 12:36 PM

This is a really great topic. I have often wondered....don't Mick and John own the name Fleetwood Mac though?? Do they receive anything for that??

~Kim

Do you get paid for owning your name?;) :shrug:

Villavic

11-24-2006, 05:37 PM

definitely it's a songwriter. Stevie is succesful and I don't think she spent everything in "her nose", as Mick did in the 80s.

Lindsey, Chris and Stevie are wealthy, probably Lindsey is the most, but I don't think there's a huge difference among those 3.

aleuzzi

11-24-2006, 06:31 PM

Oh, hell, I'll weigh in, too.

I suppose Lindsey has the most money because his combined songwriting/producing/performance credits would put him ahead of everyone else. not to mention that he supposedly lives more "simply" than everyone else in the band.

If Christine was still with Mac, recording and touring, she would most likely have equal to if not more money than Stevie. She appears to be less of a spendthrift with the cash. Her songs almost routinely had the moset airplay and were usually the biggest hits, which couldn't have hurt,

But now that she's retired, living on an estate bigger than most small towns, I assume she's third on the list.

Musicman408

11-24-2006, 07:26 PM

Without a doubt, Stevie made the most:nod:

SpyNote

11-25-2006, 03:30 PM

I'd say Stevie followed by Christine. Between concerts and song royalities, she's probably the gross pay winner. But Stevie also supports her family, entourage, and lifestyle, which are probably a huge investment of resources. Since Christine retired from touring, there is obviously no income there. But Christine's songs are radio staples, which will be played until the end of time. They are played far more than any of Stevie's or Lindsey's songs. I also don't picture Christine as leading an extravagant lifestyle. Of course, she lives in a nice castle in Kent. But I've read she likes to cook, work in her garden, and generally be a homebody.

Ghost_Tracker

11-27-2006, 11:39 PM

I think La Nicks has made the most money -

Also, in all of this is the way any part of that was invested. LA property has multiplied by five in some of the ritzy areas. Plus, the stock market over the last 15 years averaged like 10+%. So, who knows.

I believe that, contrary to popular opinion, Stevie did not own a house in LA until recently - it turns out that she actually rented. Her Dad bought her the house she recently moved in to there. So unfortunately she missed out on "the housing boom" in LA. But there's the house in Hawaii and the one in Phoenix, of course.

It's my belief that her "net worth" is somewhere between 50 and 100 million. But nothing would surprise me. I really do get an overall feeling that she's not as rich as some people think. For one thing, as I've mentioned in one or two other posts, there's some indications in an article on Nicksfix that the record company may have ripped she and the others off somewhat (they cooked the books on how many albums were sold.) Still, touring has apparently become VERY lucrative, and it's my opinion that Stevie has made a LOT of money in the last ten years. So (i.m.o.) whatever she spent, she's made back and then some. I think she must have made a lot of money from royalties, as well. Merchandising on the tours, too.

On the other hand, Rumours have it that Lindsey recently sold a house for $22 million, and he must have made a LOT for Arranging/Producing etc. much of Fleetwood Mac's work.

Anyway, overall I think it's Stevie #1, Lindsey #2, Mick #3, and John #4.
Poor, poor John! :rolleyes: :laugh:

Songbird4

11-28-2006, 05:37 PM

So I realize how blond my first comment in this thread sounds, but I guess what I meant was doesn't the name Fleetwood Mac have a copyright??

~Kim

dontlookdown

11-30-2006, 12:22 PM

who cares?

the money, the gossip, the drugs -
all of it - snooze...

i'm interested in the music. period.

JazmenFlowers

11-30-2006, 12:35 PM

who cares?

the money, the gossip, the drugs -
all of it - snooze...

i'm interested in the music. period.
obviously someone cares or the thread wouldn't be 4 pages long. it's just a conversation. I, personally, don't think it's a snooze since the money, gossip and drugs fuel much of their music.

:wavey:

Johnny Stew

11-30-2006, 02:39 PM

I, personally, don't think it's a snooze since the money, gossip and drugs fuel much of their music.As much as people get sick of the "drama," certainly all of those things... the money, the drugs, the breakups and infidelities... informed the music and performances. Take away those things and you'd be taking away much of the very same music that many fans say we should focus on solely.

strandinthewind

11-30-2006, 02:40 PM

As much as people get sick of the "drama," certainly all of those things... the money, the drugs, the breakups and infidelities... informed the music and performances. Take away those things and you'd be taking away much of the very same music that many fans say we should focus on solely.

Not only that, but the members of the band use that very same drama to sell the music - at least from Mirage onward :shrug: and really IMO as early as Tusk.

Johnny Stew

11-30-2006, 02:44 PM

So I realize how blond my first comment in this thread sounds, but I guess what I meant was doesn't the name Fleetwood Mac have a copyright??It's not really a "blond" comment... after all, FM's early manager, Clifford Davis, claimed that HE owned the band's name. Which was the whole reason he put out that bogus version of Fleetwood Mac for a time, and the whole reason Mick, et al., had to go to court to fight for the right to continue releasing albums under the name "Fleetwood Mac."

Eventually, the courts decided that the name "Fleetwood Mac" belonged to Mick and John, since they are "Fleetwood" and "Mac."

So I'd say that basically gives them "ownership" of the name and how it's used... which is, in essence, what you said in your first post. :nod:

Songbird4

11-30-2006, 09:30 PM

Thank you Johnny Stew!! :xoxo:

~Kim

sodascouts

12-02-2006, 12:59 PM

I do find it interesting that LB seemed worried about money in the DR doc - that part about la Nicks backing out of the tour after a certain amount of dates, he had a family to support (in their $20 million) house :laugh: ) - etc.

That's what I was thinking - Lindsey acted like he had money problems. It must have gone somewhere.... who knows where. So, I would say Stevie. She has just garnered so much more outside of Fleetwood, that even with her extravagance I'd say her net is more - especially since the coke is no longer an issue.