Depression

[goldustsongbird]

Anyone dealing with it right now? Because… I am! (she says enthusiastically :rolleyes: )

Just curious. It’s been hitting me hard lately; there’s something about October and November that just ****s me right up. Everything affects me more than usual, even the stupidest and most insignificant of things. I get easily jealous, and that’s the worst part. I'm a terrible person. Blahblahblah. I’m not even sure why I’m telling everyone this. Mostly to get it off my chest, I guess.

:sorry: So, am I as alone as I think I am?

[eclipse]

Naah...you are not alone at all. Every year at this time I go through a hard time as well, I live in New England in the mountains...so the weather really affects me. With the changing light and the falling leaves..it is pretty easy to understand why (intellectually), this time of yaer would bring you rather down...Sorry, I didn't look to see where you are.
After years of dealing with this pain I went to the Dr. and went onto some anti-depressive/anxiety medice. Maybe it is not for everyone...but it has helped me..In a MAJOR way. I am still overly sensitive, nostalgic, emotional...but I can handle it and not feel as overwhelmed.

Some tips from me- don't know if they will help, but they can't hurt.
Light some white candles, listen to happier music (listening to sad stuff just makes you sadder...turn off the TV!. Get dressed up- make up and all even if you are just sitting on the couch. Read a book, scary ones are good-none of that self help crap-:lol: Try and go for a walk and just try to feel less "heavy",
try to be a little lighter in all you do. See the silliness of crying over a commercial. I know it is really, really hard but try...and if all else fails, go for help-don't let it get out of your control and overwhelm you- OK?

best wishes on getting through this "Fall" (You know, they call it that for a reason!)
hugs,
~~eclipse~~

[irishgrl]

Naah...you are not alone at all. Every year at this time I go through a hard time as well, I live in New England in the mountains...so the weather really affects me. With the changing light and the falling leaves..it is pretty easy to understand why (intellectually), this time of yaer would bring you rather down...Sorry, I didn't look to see where you are.
After years of dealing with this pain I went to the Dr. and went onto some anti-depressive/anxiety medice. Maybe it is not for everyone...but it has helped me..In a MAJOR way. I am still overly sensitive, nostalgic, emotional...but I can handle it and not feel as overwhelmed.

Some tips from me- don't know if they will help, but they can't hurt.
Light some white candles, listen to happier music (listening to sad stuff just makes you sadder...turn off the TV!. Get dressed up- make up and all even if you are just sitting on the couch. Read a book, scary ones are good-none of that self help crap-:lol: Try and go for a walk and just try to feel less "heavy",
try to be a little lighter in all you do. See the silliness of crying over a commercial. I know it is really, really hard but try...and if all else fails, go for help-don't let it get out of your control and overwhelm you- OK?

best wishes on getting through this "Fall" (You know, they call it that for a reason!)
hugs,
~~eclipse~~

eclipse, I think you gave some really good tips, and in a sensitive thoughtful manner :angel:

goldustsongbird, I hope things pick up for you (if fall gets you down, what does winter do?) and no, you are not alone. I think eclipse had some really great ideas about the candles and music, I would add possibly some incense or fragrance diffuser of some sort. I dont know about you but certain smells are always a pick me up for me. Maybe you could try embracing the season? decorate your home, buy new tablecloth or a wreath for your door? I like collecting the pretty leaves at this time of year and using them in my decorating. Bake some cookies or pies (then the house REALLY smells good!)
maybe you could get a pet (if you dont already have one)?

Im not sure if I helped or not, but I meant well....Good Luck :angel:

[eclipse]

Thakns Irish....
I know what it is like to be there, so if I can help at all...I am more than happy to....
Have a marvelous Friday!
and Happy Haunting to all...see witch over the moon <smile>

[Für Elise]

I dont meant to offend anyone but juding by the descriptions provided I don't think clinical depression is feeling down because of lousy weather or just gerneral feeling lousy. it still could be what your suffering from cause I don't know the extent I only know the things written here. I've had periods of serious depression where life has completely fallen apart and I've chosen suicide and ended up in hospital care. if I'm wrong and the depression is quite serious I dont think things like candles and happy music and fragrances are what you need.you need to tell a doctor how bad things are and recieve the attention you need. but if you're just feeling down then those things other said might help I don't really know .but in that case the word depression is not the right one. I don't want to offend but I see it misused all the time.

[sara1998]

I have been through both types of this depression - the seasonal and the totally off the wall mental, and if you are totally off the wall mentally depressed, then yes, please go to a doctor. There isn't much you can do for yourself. I hated the antidepressants, they made me lazy and tired, but they did help my mental state. If you're going through a seasonal depression (weather really does change moods) then I think eclipse was right on the money. Try to embrace it. Get bundled up and go for a walk and try to enjoy the colors! Do something kind for someone. Write a letter to, whoever, and get your feelings off your chest. I usually go through a seasonal depression in fall, and as a result of it, I took today off work, so I can sit and do something for me today. I'm not sure what that's going to be yet. I hope you come through this. It's no fun being depressed.

[irishgrl]

I want to clarify that based on goldustsongbird's original post, I didnt get the impression she was talking about true clinical depression but rather something along the lines of "seasonal affective disorder" which IS about the changing of the seasons. apparently the theory is that there is some quality of the sun that is lacking at certain times of the year (ya think?) and people who suffer from SAD need "light therapy" to simulate the benefits of sunlight. Maybe goldustsongbird is extremely sensitive to sunlight (or lack thereof)??

anyway, I just want to state that I was NOT making light of actual clinical depression, but rather taking her original post at face value.

[Für Elise]

I want to clarify that based on goldustsongbird's original post, I didnt get the impression she was talking about true clinical depression but rather something along the lines of "seasonal affective disorder" which IS about the changing of the seasons. apparently the theory is that there is some quality of the sun that is lacking at certain times of the year (ya think?) and people who suffer from SAD need "light therapy" to simulate the benefits of sunlight. Maybe goldustsongbird is extremely sensitive to sunlight (or lack thereof)??

anyway, I just want to state that I was NOT making light of actual clinical depression, but rather taking her original post at face value.no thats fine. she did seem to be talking about what you described. she just used the word depression which refers to clincal depression and so I was directing the query about which one it was to her.

[irishgrl]

no thats fine. she did seem to be talking about what you described. she just used the word depression which refers to clincal depression and so I was directing the query about which one it was to her.

Understood. and its a valid point.

[Rickypt]

Lisa,

Please check in and let us know how you are doing. I read your post as a little more serious than the seasonal blahs and I am worried.

I get my seasonal blues in the summer for some reason. Something about feeling like I have to be outside and cheery all the time, when most of my hobbies are indoor activities. I'm usually in much better spirits in the fall and winter because I can go to my movies or museums and not feel guilty like I should be at a beach or something.

I've also had clinical depression, and that is much different.

Anyway, tell us a little more about what's going on. :nod:

[DrummerDeanna]

Lisa--

I have been there, my friend. Depression is a terrible animal. And while lighting candles, listening to happy music, more light etc may work for some, if you're truly depressed who the hell takes the effort to do those things?? :laugh:

If you can do those things and they help then by all means do them.

The jealous thing...I get that too - and I get really bad anger problems - that on top of depression.

Does this happen every year? How do you get through it other years?

A talk with your doctor may not be a bad idea...

Please continue to talk to us - and vent as needed.

[skcin]

I took today off work, so I can sit and do something for me today. I'm not sure what that's going to be yet.

Bitch, please. You know you're going to sit here on The Ledge all damn day with us. :D As usual, I attempt humor to lighten up a heavy situation.

It sounds similar to SAD - Seasonal Affective Disorder. It may seem a bit early in the year, but if your weather's been anything like ours (crappy with little to no sun for at least the last 6 weeks) then it could be happening. I don't mean to try & diagnose you, but it's a thought. Here's a link for more info:

http://www.seasonalaffectivedisorder.com/sad1.html

I think Eclipse & Irish gave some great advice as long as your symptoms are mild. But please, if you literally can't get out of bed, or you're not eating, or if you want to hurt yourself or others (I don't think felling like you want to hurt a Ledgie really counts, though :D ) call your doctor ASAP. :angel:

[carrie721]

Anyone dealing with it right now? Because… I am! (she says enthusiastically :rolleyes: )

Just curious. It’s been hitting me hard lately; there’s something about October and November that just ****s me right up. Everything affects me more than usual, even the stupidest and most insignificant of things. I get easily jealous, and that’s the worst part. I'm a terrible person. Blahblahblah. I’m not even sure why I’m telling everyone this. Mostly to get it off my chest, I guess.

:sorry: So, am I as alone as I think I am?

:xoxo:

of course you're not alone, hon. you know what i've been through, and several others here have shared their experiences. it'll get better as long as you take care of yourself. unfortunately, that can be hard to do when you feel like ****, right? i agree with ryan in that what you described does sound more severe than seasonal stuff - have you told your doc? email me plz! sorry i couldn't talk last night ... i didn't get home from work until almost midnight and was pretty much comatose :rolleyes:. hopefully we can talk tonight. :xoxo:

[hayley]

On the subject of clinical depression, <a href="http://www.dooce.com">Dooce</a> just posted a link to an <a href="http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index2.ssf?/base/living-0/116149796856910.xml&coll=1">excellent column</a> by a writer on the Times-Picayune staff about battling with the disease. I thought it was a great piece and wanted to share it.

I have problems with the seasonal blah blah. Can't help it. Currently trying to figure out that the best way to deal with it isn't to get stoned and eat Italian beef sandwiches every night for dinner just to try and make the night end.

[carrie721]

has anyone here tried light therapy? y'know, with the light boxes that are supposed to simulate sunlight? just wondering if anyone has had success with one of those.

[sara1998]

Bitch, please. You know you're going to sit here on The Ledge all damn day with us. :D As usual, I attempt humor to lighten up a heavy situation.

I beg your pardon, hooker, but I have written half a paragraph on my paper and am in the middle of cleaning the upstairs bathrooms. I won't be on here ALL damn day....

[SuzeQuze]

has anyone here tried light therapy? y'know, with the light boxes that are supposed to simulate sunlight? just wondering if anyone has had success with one of those.

I haven't but was going to. The boxes start at $200. The aerobic exercise you are already doing is the best defense. It doesn't work for moderate to severe though where meds might be necessary.

My rule of thumb is if you think you "might be" depressed go see your doctor. But I totally get that people don't and when I was I didn't. Until I got the book Feeling Good and took their test that rates your depression. What I thought was mild depression was severe. I'd just had it for so long I'd forgotten what normal was like, my baseline was way off.

[sara1998]

has anyone here tried light therapy? y'know, with the light boxes that are supposed to simulate sunlight? just wondering if anyone has had success with one of those.
Honestly, if it's that bad for me, I go to the tanning bed!

[skcin]

I beg your pardon, hooker, but I have written half a paragraph on my paper and am in the middle of cleaning the upstairs bathrooms. I won't be on here ALL damn day....

If you say so. I'll be watching you.... :p

[DavidMn]

Anyone dealing with it right now? Because… I am! (she says enthusiastically :rolleyes: )

Just curious. It’s been hitting me hard lately; there’s something about October and November that just ****s me right up. Everything affects me more than usual, even the stupidest and most insignificant of things. I get easily jealous, and that’s the worst part. I'm a terrible person. Blahblahblah. I’m not even sure why I’m telling everyone this. Mostly to get it off my chest, I guess.

:sorry: So, am I as alone as I think I am?Front and center right here. I have beenj battling it for most of my adult life, only last year finally starting to take meds for it. It's a terrible thing. OPNe of my personal side affects is that I eat when I get depressed, and it certainly hasnt helped my waistline. Also, I made terribly foolish decisions with regards to money. WHat would happen is that I'd have mood swings, and when I was really up I'd go out and spend money like it was nothing. For these decisions I have wound up approximately $17,000 in the hole. Please get help if any of the things I mentioned apply to you.

[DrummerDeanna]

^^
Retail therapy? I'm totally guilty of that too. And it is a terrible affliction - but I don't do it when I'm up - usually if I'm down I go shopping - spend money (that I sometimes don't have) and then I feel slightly better - you know until I have to pay my bills...:o

[DavidMn]

^^
Retail therapy? I'm totally guilty of that too. And it is a terrible affliction - but I don't do it when I'm up - usually if I'm down I go shopping - spend money (that I sometimes don't have) and then I feel slightly better - you know until I have to pay my bills...:oThe only bright side to that for me is that quite a bit of the money I've used over the last 4 years to partake in the Fleetwood Mac/Stevie/Lindsey tours. Yes, foolish practically, but the way I look at it is that at least I have a momrey of what I spent.:nod:

[mikeschmike]

The only bright side to that for me is that quite a bit of the money I've used over the last 4 years to partake in the Fleetwood Mac/Stevie/Lindsey tours. Yes, foolish practically, but the way I look at it is that at least I have a momrey of what I spent.:nod:

It's all about the momrey's. :laugh:

I'm not that afflicted by the lure of retail. I must be too cheap for it. I do have my up and down days though, that's for sure.

[DrummerDeanna]

The only bright side to that for me is that quite a bit of the money I've used over the last 4 years to partake in the Fleetwood Mac/Stevie/Lindsey tours. Yes, foolish practically, but the way I look at it is that at least I have a momrey of what I spent.:nod:

That is good - at least you have good memories etc.

Unfortunately I had a pretty good handle on my credit card - until I moved across the country and had a month where I got no paycheck...

Blah. But with Suze Orman's help and my pay raise - I am heading back in the right direction!

[estranged4life]

Weird, I am at my happiest this time of year considering how many family deaths I had to endure during Oct.-Nov. of years past (ie-Losing both my Father & Grandfather in a 3 week stretch).

When the weather gets cold, grey & dreary I am super-chipper, but when the weather is warm, sunny w/blue skies I am depressed (Plus, being allergic to sunlight doesnt help matters-I am limited to only about 2.5 hours of direct sunlight a day before I become ill) so maybe my mind is wired different.

[estranged4life]

^^
Retail therapy? I'm totally guilty of that too. And it is a terrible affliction - but I don't do it when I'm up - usually if I'm down I go shopping - spend money (that I sometimes don't have) and then I feel slightly better - you know until I have to pay my bills...:o

but when Deb ended up in the hospital from Dec.2003-March 2004 I quit worrying about the bills & worried about more important things.

[skcin]

Front and center right here. I have beenj battling it for most of my adult life, only last year finally starting to take meds for it. It's a terrible thing. OPNe of my personal side affects is that I eat when I get depressed, and it certainly hasnt helped my waistline. Also, I made terribly foolish decisions with regards to money. WHat would happen is that I'd have mood swings, and when I was really up I'd go out and spend money like it was nothing. For these decisions I have wound up approximately $17,000 in the hole. Please get help if any of the things I mentioned apply to you.


Holy sh*t dude. :shocked: $17,000? Your symptoms sounds like more than depression to me. Glad you've gotten help since then, hope you're doing better.

[gldstwmn]

Anyone dealing with it right now? Because… I am! (she says enthusiastically :rolleyes: )

Just curious. It’s been hitting me hard lately; there’s something about October and November that just ****s me right up. Everything affects me more than usual, even the stupidest and most insignificant of things. I get easily jealous, and that’s the worst part. I'm a terrible person. Blahblahblah. I’m not even sure why I’m telling everyone this. Mostly to get it off my chest, I guess.

:sorry: So, am I as alone as I think I am?

No. I am going through the same thing right now. In fact once I finish my lunch, I'm going to go lay down, take a nap and then go out and participate in some retail therapy. I do take meds for depression but sometimes life and my workload test the limits of that. As my late mother used to say, this too shall pass.

[gldstwmn]

I usually go through a seasonal depression in fall, and as a result of it, I took today off work, so I can sit and do something for me today.

Amen sister. I turned the ringer off on my phone about 20 minutes ago. That's all for today. If it can't wait 'til later or tomorrow, then oh well.

[goldustsongbird]

Hey guys. Actually - you're all right. I am clinically depressed, and have told my therapist about it. We've discussed medication a few times, but at the moment, I'm hesitant. Don't get me wrong, I've considered it, but I'm not sure I'm ready to deal with some of the side effects... Especially not the possibility of weight gain. I'm trying to *lose* weight! That sounds a little vain, I guess, but a lot of it also has to do with the history of my family. I'm a little leery depending on any kind of drug. :shrug: }

SAD isn't something I've been diagnosed with, but I've probably got it. In any case, this weather doesn't help matters.


:xoxo:

of course you're not alone, hon. you know what i've been through, and several others here have shared their experiences. it'll get better as long as you take care of yourself. unfortunately, that can be hard to do when you feel like ****, right? i agree with ryan in that what you described does sound more severe than seasonal stuff - have you told your doc? email me plz! sorry i couldn't talk last night ... i didn't get home from work until almost midnight and was pretty much comatose :rolleyes:. hopefully we can talk tonight. :xoxo:

I know, it just seems like other people seem to get over whatever they're going through quickly, no matter how hard, and I'm the one left behind to struggle. :shrug:

Eclipse - I usually get dressed and made-up, even if I'm not going anywhere, but sometimes that depresses me even more. It's the whole 'all dressed up and no place to go' thing. Everyone else has something to do with someone somewhere... and I'm here online, or watching TV, or just... doin' nothing.

Irish - I have a pet. :thumbsup: My budgie, Nelly is usually good company. And you can bet she keeps me company. She's a demanding little bitch. :lol:

Deanna - the jealousy thing is ridiculous! It happens over the smallest things; things I know I probably shouldn't get mad over, but I can't help it. Especially now. I hate feeling left out of things. Because it has to do with my actual depression, it occurs whenever, it's just that the change in seasons heightens and magnifies everything. Funny, it doesn't seem to magnify the good. :o

[goldustsongbird]

Front and center right here. I have beenj battling it for most of my adult life, only last year finally starting to take meds for it. It's a terrible thing. OPNe of my personal side affects is that I eat when I get depressed, and it certainly hasnt helped my waistline. Also, I made terribly foolish decisions with regards to money. WHat would happen is that I'd have mood swings, and when I was really up I'd go out and spend money like it was nothing. For these decisions I have wound up approximately $17,000 in the hole. Please get help if any of the things I mentioned apply to you.

Oddly (and luckily), I've never experienced that... Right now, the last thing I want to do is go out and shop, even aimlessly. There are times when I don't mind going out for lunch, or going out to browse around the mall or whatever, but mostly, I just want to do what I have to do and go home. Of course, isolation rarely helps the matter. :(

I'm glad you're doing something about it, tho. Do you mind if I ask what you're taking for it?

No. I am going through the same thing right now. In fact once I fisnish my lunch, I'm going to go lay down, take a nap and then go out and participate in some retail therapy. I do take meds for depression but sometimes life and my workload test the limits of that. As my late mother used to say, this too shall pass.

Yeah... I keep telling myself that. It's hard to believe sometimes, though, y'know?

[DrummerDeanna]

Hey guys. Actually - you're all right. I am clinically depressed, and have told my therapist about it. We've discussed medication a few times, but at the moment, I'm hesitant. Don't get me wrong, I've considered it, but I'm not sure I'm ready to deal with some of the side effects... Especially not the possibility of weight gain. I'm trying to *lose* weight! That sounds a little vain, I guess, but a lot of it also has to do with the history of my family. I'm a little leery depending on any kind of drug. :shrug: }

Deanna - the jealousy thing is ridiculous! It happens over the smallest things; things I know I probably shouldn't get mad over, but I can't help it. Especially now. I hate feeling left out of things. Because it has to do with my actual depression, it occurs whenever, it's just that the change in seasons heightens and magnifies everything. Funny, it doesn't seem to magnify the good. :o


I know what you mean about the jealousy thing - it was bad my last year of college, and I didn't even know then that it was part of my depression. People really close to me took the brunt -and I didn't get medicated until months later.

I can understand your apprehension on the meds - I felt the same way. But they don't have to be permanent, and there are some better options on the market now that don't have such horrid side-effects.

The weight thing - how effective is losing weight when you're depressed though? I'm just saying because when I was depressed the last thing I wanted to do was eat right or exercise - I didn't start doing that until I got medicated...

Now the meds...I had HORRIBLE symptoms while going off - but that's not typical and I did go off the meds and have been fine for over a year now....but it's still something I have to keep an eye on and work on.

[goldustsongbird]

I know what you mean about the jealousy thing - it was bad my last year of college, and I didn't even know then that it was part of my depression. People really close to me took the brunt -and I didn't get medicated until months later.

I can understand your apprehension on the meds - I felt the same way. But they don't have to be permanent, and there are some better options on the market now that don't have such horrid side-effects.

The weight thing - how effective is losing weight when you're depressed though? I'm just saying because when I was depressed the last thing I wanted to do was eat right or exercise - I didn't start doing that until I got medicated...

Now the meds...I had HORRIBLE symptoms while going off - but that's not typical and I did go off the meds and have been fine for over a year now....but it's still something I have to keep an eye on and work on.

I feel badly for my family sometimes. :distress: Things aren't as bad as they were, but I get terrible moodswings when things get really rough, and that can't be easy for them to deal with.

Well, I've been trying to eat right just for the sake of it, but as far as exercise goes, I haven't done much since the summer. I walk every day or so. That's something, I suppose.

[DrummerDeanna]

I feel badly for my family sometimes. :distress: Things aren't as bad as they were, but I get terrible moodswings when things get really rough, and that can't be easy for them to deal with.

Well, I've been trying to eat right just for the sake of it, but as far as exercise goes, I haven't done much since the summer. I walk every day or so. That's something, I suppose.

That is something...and something is always better than nothing. Does your family know of your depression? If so then hopefully they understand (mine did...up to a point lol). Other people though - didn't understand, and I heard a lot of.."well just cheer up already!!!" OH! Ok..thanks, I'm CURED!

[goldustsongbird]

That is something...and something is always better than nothing. Does your family know of your depression? If so then hopefully they understand (mine did...up to a point lol). Other people though - didn't understand, and I heard a lot of.."well just cheer up already!!!" OH! Ok..thanks, I'm CURED!

Yep, they do! My mom is the most understanding of it... I think my dad's still trying to make sense of it. We really don't get along all the time, and before, when I told him I might be depressed and need to see someone, he was like, WTF? I think he thought I was making excuses for being such a horrid bitch. :shrug: He's taking things a little more seriously - and some of my comments said in the heat of the moment a little lighter than he ever would have before.

One of my friends said that to me when I vented one day. I thought she'd be supportive, because she usually is, and knows what it's like, but she ended up growling something along the lines of "The world is absolute ****, just deal with it"

Yeah, ok, suck it, E. :rolleyes:

[carrie721]

I know, it just seems like other people seem to get over whatever they're going through quickly, no matter how hard, and I'm the one left behind to struggle. :shrug:

yeah. i think that feeling is heightened when you're younger and dealing with depression. it's harder to gain perspective on the situation when you've spent most of your adolescent/adult life dealing with it.

i hope you consider medication. i understand your wariness. it's not a cure-all, but it can help lift some of the burden and make it easier to organize your thoughts and work on some of the unhealthy cognitive patterns behind the emotions.

[foxyluva]

I suffer from occasional depression - mostly due to the ****ed up situation with my mother...

You're not alone Lisa :)

[goldustsongbird]

yeah. i think that feeling is heightened when you're younger and dealing with depression. it's harder to gain perspective on the situation when you've spent most of your adolescent/adult life dealing with it.

i hope you consider medication. i understand your wariness. it's not a cure-all, but it can help lift some of the burden and make it easier to organize your thoughts and work on some of the unhealthy cognitive patterns behind the emotions.

Eh, who knows. Whatev. I don't know... I've been thinking about it a lot more than usual. I just feel a little lost right now. All I want to do is sleep. And you know about my weird sleeping patterns! If I'm awake, I get restless, and I end up spending hours on here, and then I'm pissed when I realize the whole day has passed by...

I suffer from occasional depression - mostly due to the ****ed up situation with my mother...

You're not alone Lisa :)

http://xs108.xs.to/xs108/06436/hug.gif Want to talk about it?

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Wanting to sleep all the time...man I remember that feeling too...:distress: I'm really sorry - I hope you get to feeling better soon - and if it comes down to it, meds really aren't that bad - they get a bad rap, but when you feel like absolute sh*t mentally - they can truly be a life saver.

[foxyluva]

http://xs108.xs.to/xs108/06436/hug.gif Want to talk about it?

Ehh, I have had enough talking about it. My mother is pretending nothing is going on so Im playing the same game :shrug:

Yeah, Im known for keeping things bottled up

[jannieC]

Wellbutrin is one anti-depressant that doesn't have weight gain as a side effect; sometimes people actually *lose* weight while taking it. And as someone else mentioned, you may actually start losing weight when you're feeling better mentally.

Take care of yourself and be aware of your feelings. Depression is rough. :xoxo:

[goldustsongbird]

Wellbutrin is one anti-depressant that doesn't have weight gain as a side effect; sometimes people actually *lose* weight while taking it. And as someone else mentioned, you may actually start losing weight when you're feeling better mentally.

Take care of yourself and be aware of your feelings. Depression is rough. :xoxo:
Really? Interesting. I don't think that was one of the meds my therapist mentioned to me. It was about a month or two ago when we talked about it.

Ehh, I have had enough talking about it. My mother is pretending nothing is going on so Im playing the same game :shrug:

Yeah, Im known for keeping things bottled up

It's cool, dude. I know what that's like, keeping things bottled up. We're here if you wanna vent. :)

^^

Wanting to sleep all the time...man I remember that feeling too...:distress: I'm really sorry - I hope you get to feeling better soon - and if it comes down to it, meds really aren't that bad - they get a bad rap, but when you feel like absolute sh*t mentally - they can truly be a life saver.

Thanks, D. We'll see. I'm not going to see my therapist for another week. I'm going next Thursday. I wish she wouldn't schedule me in every two weeks; I think I definitely need to see her more than that.

Until then, I'll complain about it on here. :lol: :wavey:

[Rickypt]

Wellbutrin is one anti-depressant that doesn't have weight gain as a side effect; sometimes people actually *lose* weight while taking it.

I was on Wellbutrin for a year. It got me out of my depression within about 4-5 weeks. It is different from the SSRIs, so doesn't have the same side effects. The only problem I had with it was some trouble sleeping.

[gldstwmn]

Hey guys. Actually - you're all right. I am clinically depressed, and have told my therapist about it. We've discussed medication a few times, but at the moment, I'm hesitant. Don't get me wrong, I've considered it, but I'm not sure I'm ready to deal with some of the side effects... Especially not the possibility of weight gain. I'm trying to *lose* weight! That sounds a little vain, I guess, but a lot of it also has to do with the history of my family. I'm a little leery depending on any kind of drug. :shrug: }



Prozac worked for me and according to my doctor some weight loss is part of the side effects.
I took Paxil before that and it was a complete nightmare for me. It alomost put me off of SSRI's for good. Fortunately I had a doctor and therapist explain to me that finding the right meds for this is like looking for a pair of comfortable shoes. That analogy is mine not theirs but they put it in similar, more clinical terms.

[gldstwmn]

I'm not going to see my therapist for another week. I'm going next Thursday. I wish she wouldn't schedule me in every two weeks; I think I definitely need to see her more than that.



If you feel you needs meds, I'm sure you could call her and she'd phone something in to the local pharmacy for you. Can you tell I've done this before? :lol: Take care of yourself. :angel:

[Rickypt]

I wish she wouldn't schedule me in every two weeks; I think I definitely need to see her more than that.


You should insist on seeing her weekly. If you're clinically depressed, a therapist will usually want weekly visits. I went twice a week during my worst parts.

If she says no, or she doesn't have room in the schedule, then she should refer you to someone else for the in between visits. If she understands depression, that is.

Studies show the most effective way of overcoming clinical depression is meds plus regular talk therapy.

Hope you're feeling a little better today. It's hard to give advice because each person's depression is different, but one of my strategies when I was depressed was to find one thing that would enjoy that day. Sometimes it would just be the walk to my cafe to have coffee in the morning, and I would take a different route and try to pick out my favorite house on the block. Other times I would sit with my cat and listen to him purr and marvel at how he was able to show happiness in such a pure way.

Anyway, those might have been the only enjoyable things that entire day, but it really helped me get through a day.

[SuzeQuze]

No. I am going through the same thing right now. In fact once I finish my lunch, I'm going to go lay down, take a nap and then go out and participate in some retail therapy. I do take meds for depression but sometimes life and my workload test the limits of that. As my late mother used to say, this too shall pass.

I still fight it too and had a bad day on Tues. It did pass. Hope today is better for you. :xoxo:

[SuzeQuze]

yeah. i think that feeling is heightened when you're younger and dealing with depression. it's harder to gain perspective on the situation when you've spent most of your adolescent/adult life dealing with it.

i hope you consider medication. i understand your wariness. it's not a cure-all, but it can help lift some of the burden and make it easier to organize your thoughts and work on some of the unhealthy cognitive patterns behind the emotions.

It's really rough being a teen and being depressed. I was and nobody helped me. I finally got help when I was 18 but she was not a good therapist. She helped me stabilize but I still didn't feel good. Then I finally got some real help 10 years later. I was depressed for a VERY long time and am lucky that I pulled out of it because the longer you wait the harder it is to treat. I am lucky to have that difficult to treat kind. Yay for me! :sarcasm:

Speaking of Mom issues mine is always sick with something and I see an underlying emotional issue contributing. I keep pushing her to get help but she won't and she exploded at me over it last weekend. It really sucked. And I realized how entrenched I am in her stuff. Family issues suck. She basically said she wanted sympathy for her physical pain not advice. I get that. So then I mentioned how no one really supported me when I had my severe back problem. Hello? Who's the Mommy? I never had a nurturing Mom, anyone who has one, consider yourself truly blessed. :angel:

My therapist told me she had the pleasure of meeting a famous psychologist who was very accomplished with books and such. She said the one thing in her life she truly could never get past was not having a nurturing mother. Ain't that something? We think we resolve issues but we really just learn to cope with them. Some of them just really suck.

[DavidMn]

It's all about the momrey's. :laugh:

I'm not that afflicted by the lure of retail. I must be too cheap for it. I do have my up and down days though, that's for sure.Spell check amyone? SHEESH. I am the worst ever.....:laugh:

[DavidMn]

Holy sh*t dude. :shocked: $17,000? Your symptoms sounds like more than depression to me. Glad you've gotten help since then, hope you're doing better.Thank you. The thing is that I havent been diagnosed as bi-polar, but I think I might have a mild form of it.

[gldstwmn]

I still fight it too and had a bad day on Tues. It did pass. Hope today is better for you. :xoxo:

Thanks sweetie.:xoxo:

[Mad4stevie]

Thank you. The thing is that I havent been diagnosed as bi-polar, but I think I might have a mild form of it.

Bipolar is very difficult to diagnose. Most psychiatrist try to treat it as depression, which can have disasterous results because SSRI's cause extreme mania in many people with bipolar. Often the diagnosis only comes after some real episode. I have seen it up close and personal because I lived with my boyfriend who had an extreme manic episode and I had to have him involuntarily committed to the hospital to get medicated. I read everything I could get my hands on to educate myself about this illness, and in the end, it really was just too crazy for me to stay.

I have suffered from three episodes of situational depression, mostly related to the breakups of relationships. Two of the three I did not take medication and suffered for months needlessly. The last time was when I had to leave my ex when he was so ill, simply because I needed to save myself and I could not do anything else to help him. I was devestated and could barely get out of bed. I always lose weight when this happens, and it is likely that I drop at least 12 - 15 lbs during the depression. I have taken Lexapro, which was great, Celexa which made me feel lethargic and I now have switched to Wellbutrin, which I like even more than Lexapro because there are no sexual side effects (those suck ass!!).

[goldustsongbird]

You should insist on seeing her weekly. If you're clinically depressed, a therapist will usually want weekly visits. I went twice a week during my worst parts.

If she says no, or she doesn't have room in the schedule, then she should refer you to someone else for the in between visits. If she understands depression, that is.

Studies show the most effective way of overcoming clinical depression is meds plus regular talk therapy.

Hope you're feeling a little better today. It's hard to give advice because each person's depression is different, but one of my strategies when I was depressed was to find one thing that would enjoy that day. Sometimes it would just be the walk to my cafe to have coffee in the morning, and I would take a different route and try to pick out my favorite house on the block. Other times I would sit with my cat and listen to him purr and marvel at how he was able to show happiness in such a pure way.

Anyway, those might have been the only enjoyable things that entire day, but it really helped me get through a day.

I was mentioning to Carrie last night that I don't find my shrink very effective, in the grand scheme of things. :sorry: I tend to come out walking on air and feeling like I can conquer my problems... Then nothing. Sometimes I'll get what she suggested accomplished, other times I don't. I think there's still a lot to talk about, and I don't know if she (despite my telling her outright. hellooo!) really understands the magnititude of some of my situations. I've only been seeing her since August.

Thanks, though. :wavey: I'm feeling a little better today. I should probably try to take more walks and get out... It's been kinda rainy and dreary here lately. Not exactly walking weather, but that'll pass soon, I hope!

[Janet]

Anyone dealing with it right now? Because… I am! (she says enthusiastically :rolleyes: )

Just curious. It’s been hitting me hard lately; there’s something about October and November that just ****s me right up. Everything affects me more than usual, even the stupidest and most insignificant of things. I get easily jealous, and that’s the worst part. I'm a terrible person. Blahblahblah. I’m not even sure why I’m telling everyone this. Mostly to get it off my chest, I guess.

:sorry: So, am I as alone as I think I am?

First of all...if you are alone...call someone..anyone. Just talk to people and tell them how you feel. WE are here for you as well. The worst thing about depression is letting yourself be alone. Even if you go out for a walk or something...just try to get out.

As much as I hate my job, it has saved my life. It takes my mind off life and I just let myself get caught up in it. Work is lonely and depressing ...but it's better than sitting home alone.

I live alone, I don't have a boyfriend...I don't have a lot of luck and I have had the tedency to get really depressed. This summer was the worst of all...I never went out except for work...I went to bed when the sun was coming up and just woke up to go to work...blah blah...

But to get out of it...I just sucked it up and just tried to get excited over things...I tried to contact people...

I still cancel on things because these overwhelming thoughts come over me that no one wants me...and the jealousy thing too...and my feelings about myself and my looks...but I still try.

But never think your feelings are stupid or insignificant...I think the most important thing is to open up no matter how painful it is...even if just to us..because we are here. Your feelings aren't silly...but life can get better...if you just let yourself see the beauty in it...

I hope things get better!.

[foxyluva]

Work is lonely and depressing ...but it's better than sitting home alone.

I live alone, I don't have a boyfriend...I don't have a lot of luck and I have had the tedency to get really depressed. This summer was the worst of all...I never went out except for work...I went to bed when the sun was coming up and just woke up to go to work...blah blah....

Janet, that sounds incredibly sad. I hope things are getting better. I am going through similar things, but not so extreme it seems...

[goldustsongbird]

First of all...if you are alone...call someone..anyone. Just talk to people and tell them how you feel. WE are here for you as well. The worst thing about depression is letting yourself be alone. Even if you go out for a walk or something...just try to get out.

As much as I hate my job, it has saved my life. It takes my mind off life and I just let myself get caught up in it. Work is lonely and depressing ...but it's better than sitting home alone.

I live alone, I don't have a boyfriend...I don't have a lot of luck and I have had the tedency to get really depressed. This summer was the worst of all...I never went out except for work...I went to bed when the sun was coming up and just woke up to go to work...blah blah...

But to get out of it...I just sucked it up and just tried to get excited over things...I tried to contact people...

I still cancel on things because these overwhelming thoughts come over me that no one wants me...and the jealousy thing too...and my feelings about myself and my looks...but I still try.

But never think your feelings are stupid or insignificant...I think the most important thing is to open up no matter how painful it is...even if just to us..because we are here. Your feelings aren't silly...but life can get better...if you just let yourself see the beauty in it...

I hope things get better!.

Thanks Janet. I feel really lonely, because aside from my family... I kind of.... have no friends. No friends I can rely on, that is. I know it's sometimes next to impossible to keep in touch with everyone after you go your separate ways, but I know some of them have stayed in contact, and I can't help but feel like they've just forgotten me. :shrug: Especially this really close friend of mine, who doesn't call when she says she will, and whenever we *do* talk tells me that she misses me and would loooove to see me again... But she's too busy. Too busy going out with her other friend. :rolleyes:

I was supposed to meet up with everyone last week at a party, and ended up not going because the same thing you described happened: The drive there was stressful because his house is hard to find, and I started getting anxious about seeing some of these people (one of whom I am mad at), and backed out of it completely.

I'm living at home, but there's only so much your parents can do for you, ya know?

Right now, I'm worried about my bird. I'm pretty sure she's sick, and I have no idea what to do for her. :(

[carrie721]

Right now, I'm worried about my bird. I'm pretty sure she's sick, and I have no idea what to do for her. :(

poor nelly!!! you gonna be on msn tonight?

[goldustsongbird]

poor nelly!!! you gonna be on msn tonight?

Yeah, I have nothing else to do. I'll be on soon anyway.

[foxyluva]

Thanks Janet. I feel really lonely, because aside from my family... I kind of.... have no friends. No friends I can rely on, that is

OMG, that just described me. Once I left school all my so-called-friends moved on without me. I feel lonely alot of the time as well. I have alot of friends, but none that I can really rely on or relate to, which is something I so desperatley need...

[goldustsongbird]

OMG, that just described me. Once I left school all my so-called-friends moved on without me. I feel lonely alot of the time as well. I have alot of friends, but none that I can really rely on or relate to, which is something I so desperatley need...

I know! It's so frustrating. *hugs* Stupid people. I have the Ledge and other online people, but I'd love someone I could call and go out to coffee with, without them making lame ass excuses or backing out. All the more reason why we need a big Ledgie bash! :] :xoxo:

[carrie721]

I know! It's so frustrating. *hugs* Stupid people. I have the Ledge and other online people, but I'd love someone I could call and go out to coffee with, without them making lame ass excuses or backing out. All the more reason why we need a big Ledgie bash! :] :xoxo:

you can call me! :wavey:

and we can have coffee, we'd just have to plan wayyyyyy in advance. :laugh: :D

[goldustsongbird]

you can call me! :wavey:

and we can have coffee, we'd just have to plan wayyyyyy in advance. :laugh: :D

:laugh: Welp, I'd say we're pretty much set for Cyn '07... I read that her True Colours tour is starting then, so I don't know if she'll still do the casino stuff. Bitch had better not back out on me this time!!!!

[carrie721]

:laugh: Welp, I'd say we're pretty much set for Cyn '07... I read that her True Colours tour is starting then, so I don't know if she'll still do the casino stuff. Bitch had better not back out on me this time!!!!

cyn2k7!!!!! n-fest2k7!!!!! lisa & carrie do toronto!!!!! :laugh:

[goldustsongbird]

cyn2k7!!!!! n-fest2k7!!!!! lisa & carrie do toronto!!!!! :laugh:

:laugh: We definitely need to plan this in advance... to give TO/Orillia time to prepare!! Batten down the hatches, ya'll, we're on our way!

[Janet]

Thanks Janet. I feel really lonely, because aside from my family... I kind of.... have no friends. No friends I can rely on, that is. I know it's sometimes next to impossible to keep in touch with everyone after you go your separate ways, but I know some of them have stayed in contact, and I can't help but feel like they've just forgotten me. :shrug: Especially this really close friend of mine, who doesn't call when she says she will, and whenever we *do* talk tells me that she misses me and would loooove to see me again... But she's too busy. Too busy going out with her other friend. :rolleyes:

I was supposed to meet up with everyone last week at a party, and ended up not going because the same thing you described happened: The drive there was stressful because his house is hard to find, and I started getting anxious about seeing some of these people (one of whom I am mad at), and backed out of it completely.

I'm living at home, but there's only so much your parents can do for you, ya know?

Right now, I'm worried about my bird. I'm pretty sure she's sick, and I have no idea what to do for her. :(

I hope your bird is ok :( What seems to be the problem??

I guess there is only so much ANYONE can do for you. The real thing is...we can only do for ourself.

I know my problem is that I am SO indepedant, I close people out. I do have people who try...but I get mad and almost instigate fights so I can just be alone...in my comfort zone...

But that's NOT good...
:) Have a good night.

[goldustsongbird]

I hope your bird is ok :( What seems to be the problem??

I guess there is only so much ANYONE can do for you. The real thing is...we can only do for ourself.

I know my problem is that I am SO indepedant, I close people out. I do have people who try...but I get mad and almost instigate fights so I can just be alone...in my comfort zone...

But that's NOT good...
:) Have a good night.

I had her on medication for awhile... Even though she was acting normally, and eating and drinking well, her poop was runny. :shrug: Not a good sign, but the vet seemed to think it was more of a vitamin deficiency and suggested I give her a more varied diet. So... I introduced new foods to her, and that's been fine, but lately she hasn't been chirping much. She's usually really chatty, so I'm a little concerned. She pepped up a bit last night and today, though.

I'm the same way! I tend to give off this vibe of total independance, and I think a lot of my friends just figure I can handle things, when I sometimes need them more than ever. :shrug:

[Janet]

I had her on medication for awhile... Even though she was acting normally, and eating and drinking well, her poop was runny. :shrug: Not a good sign, but the vet seemed to think it was more of a vitamin deficiency and suggested I give her a more varied diet. So... I introduced new foods to her, and that's been fine, but lately she hasn't been chirping much. She's usually really chatty, so I'm a little concerned. She pepped up a bit last night and today, though.

I'm the same way! I tend to give off this vibe of total independance, and I think a lot of my friends just figure I can handle things, when I sometimes need them more than ever. :shrug:

I'm glad your bird is better...and that last thing you said...I totally feel that.

[SuzeQuze]

I'm glad your bird is better...and that last thing you said...I totally feel that.

Yeah me too. When I went through my breakup with my fiance this friend said she didn't contact me because she figured I would want my space which is what she would want. WTF? :confused: I can count on one finger how many people were there for me at that time. Needless to say I am not friends with that woman anymore. And my ex married her sister anyway, who I introduced him to and was supposed to be my friend. Yadda yadda.

So if people can't be there for you maybe they're not the right people? Or maybe ask for support? I'm so bad at that and tend to isolate when things are bad. This does not help! If you ever want to talk about anything though feel free to PM me. Some of my most supportive friends are email friends.

[sara1998]

Some of my most supportive friends are email friends.

Amen to that. One of my best friends who I only met online is the one to talk me into contacting my step-daughter. She was really the only person I talked to in depth about it. If it wasen't for her, I would probably still be contemplating contacting her. You know who you are.... :xoxo:

[sara1998]

If you're clinically depressed, a therapist will usually want weekly visits.
Not necessarily. When I lost my husband, I was only recommended monthly visits. That really sucked. If you feel you need weekly visits, and your therapist is not offering them, look for another therapist. Had I known that then, I would have found someone different. I wasne't thinking straight enough to figure that out then.

[SuzeQuze]

Not necessarily. When I lost my husband, I was only recommended monthly visits. That really sucked. If you feel you need weekly visits, and your therapist is not offering them, look for another therapist. Had I known that then, I would have found someone different. I wasne't thinking straight enough to figure that out then.

Jesus, your husband committed suicide and the therapist didn't have the common sense to know you would need at least weekly visits? Unfortunately there are plenty of mediocre therapists out there. :( But you are right, you can always change your therapist. However, this is really hard when you are in crisis. You're really just looking for the expert to take care of you because you can't do it at that moment.

A family member was seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist. The psychiatrist was billing him for psychotherapy when she knew she was supposed to just be doing med evals because he already had his talk therapy with his psychologist. So naturally his insurance didn't cover the double sessions. WTF???

[Rickypt]

Not necessarily. When I lost my husband, I was only recommended monthly visits. That really sucked. If you feel you need weekly visits, and your therapist is not offering them, look for another therapist. Had I known that then, I would have found someone different. I wasne't thinking straight enough to figure that out then.

I meant to say a "good" therapist. Monthly is not even close to enough for someone who is grieving.

[goldustsongbird]

Yeah me too. When I went through my breakup with my fiance this friend said she didn't contact me because she figured I would want my space which is what she would want. WTF? :confused: I can count on one finger how many people were there for me at that time. Needless to say I am not friends with that woman anymore. And my ex married her sister anyway, who I introduced him to and was supposed to be my friend. Yadda yadda.

So if people can't be there for you maybe they're not the right people? Or maybe ask for support? I'm so bad at that and tend to isolate when things are bad. This does not help! If you ever want to talk about anything though feel free to PM me. Some of my most supportive friends are email friends.

:confused: People can be really insensitive sometimes. I tend to take it personally, which can be a problem... it's not always intended that way. Some people just don't think. So, yeah, are they the right people? I found out awhile ago that some of them aren't. Some, I'm still hanging on to, but I'm about to cut the ties if they keep being dickwads. I know what you mean about online friends, though. They're basically all I have now, as pathetic as that might sound. I'll PM ya if I need anything. :xoxo:

Not necessarily. When I lost my husband, I was only recommended monthly visits. That really sucked. If you feel you need weekly visits, and your therapist is not offering them, look for another therapist. Had I known that then, I would have found someone different. I wasne't thinking straight enough to figure that out then.

Dude, monthly? That's rough. I agree with Suze and Ryan, that's definitely not a good schedule. No matter what, it IS hard to search around and wait for someone better... Sometimes you think even mediocre help is better than nothing at all.

[DrummerDeanna]

So on topic of depression and therapists etc...does anyone else have fits with insurance and the coverage of mental health?

It pisses me off -like it's just not important - my insurance (in NY--where my worst depression hit) didn't cover mental health!!!! Is this an issue with anyone else?

[carrie721]

So on topic of depression and therapists etc...does anyone else have fits with insurance and the coverage of mental health?

It pisses me off -like it's just not important - my insurance (in NY--where my worst depression hit) didn't cover mental health!!!! Is this an issue with anyone else?

hell yeah. when i was in HS my parents had to jump through hoops to get my **** covered. they would only cover a certain number of visits per year (20 or 30), so even when i was scary depressed, i couldn't go every week. i hate insurance companies. h-a-t-e.

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

yeah a good friend of mine is going through an awful time, and he was so desperate that he went to see a priest. Well it turns out this priest is also a professional psychiatrist...my friend was not happy when a large bill appeared in the mail...his insurance won't cover any of it :distress:

Anyway - I'm with ya on the insurance hate....but at the same time I'm glad I have it...I just wish it would cover things that matter.

[carrie721]

^^

yeah a good friend of mine is going through an awful time, and he was so desperate that he went to see a priest. Well it turns out this priest is also a professional psychiatrist...my friend was not happy when a large bill appeared in the mail...his insurance won't cover any of it :distress:

Anyway - I'm with ya on the insurance hate....but at the same time I'm glad I have it...I just wish it would cover things that matter.

insurance is a necessary evil for sure. i don't have it right now and am really feeling it.

i can't believe that story about your friend! surely that's unethical, as a priest and a psychiatrist!

[Rickypt]

Our health care system is so completely whacked. Millions don't have insurance, and those that do are usually underinsured. My insurance company denied an extension of visits with my therapist five weeks after my partner died. Fortunately my therapist was aggressive and fought them on it.

[DrummerDeanna]

Our health care system is so completely whacked. Millions don't have insurance, and those that do are usually underinsured. My insurance company denied an extension of visits with my therapist five weeks after my partner died. Fortunately my therapist was aggressive and fought them on it.

:eek: wow...I'm glad you had a doc who was willing to fight! And it's true - our system is broken...


The priest thing...well he's sort of been tossed out of the actual Catholic Church. He's in some branch of the Catholic Church that (God forbid) accepts anyone and everyone. He's gay and has been in a relationship with a man for the last 35 years. He was a Deacon in my church growing up - but finally they got him out of there and he started his own church...

He also started his practice apparently - but my friend didn't know it was seperate from the church (he's kind of the clueless sort). Anyway - he is an excellent counselor but sadly my friend probably can't afford to keep going if his insurance won't cover it. He's a teacher - you'd think the school's insurance would cover mental health for sure :p

[skcin]

Mental health coverage is a joke. They almost always limit it, just like PT. Um, hello? You may be pretty sure that PT can heal a shoulder after 10 visits, but how the hell can you guarantee a therapist will heal the mind in that short a time?

It's ridiculous to me, and makes me ill when I think about it.

[goldustsongbird]

Oh, Jesus H. Let's just say I was totally wrong, and I'm actually going to see her NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad:

[skcin]

^ That sucks. Are you feeling any better?

[carrie721]

Oh, Jesus H. Let's just say I was totally wrong, and I'm actually going to see her NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :(

plz 2 b chatting with me 2nite. :xoxo:

[goldustsongbird]

^ That sucks. Are you feeling any better?

Sorta. But it's that "calm before the storm" kind of better. I'm not exactly 100%, and I feel as if something is about to set me off. Um, I'm probably scaring everyone right now, :lol:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :(

plz 2 b chatting with me 2nite. :xoxo:

Yes ma'am!

[DrummerDeanna]

Sorta. But it's that "calm before the storm" kind of better. I'm not exactly 100%, and I feel as if something is about to set me off. Um, I'm probably scaring everyone right now, :lol:


I think it's really good that you recognize that....:nod: I never did and would be totally freaked out after something set me off and I reacted horribly...sigh. But glad that you're feeling a bit better - at least for now :o

[carrie721]

Sorta. But it's that "calm before the storm" kind of better. I'm not exactly 100%, and I feel as if something is about to set me off. Um, I'm probably scaring everyone right now, :lol:



Yes ma'am!

i ain't scaredanoghost!

[goldustsongbird]

I think it's really good that you recognize that....:nod: I never did and would be totally freaked out after something set me off and I reacted horribly...sigh. But glad that you're feeling a bit better - at least for now :o

I can be like that sometimes (not being able to recognize it). But usually I can sense it... And that's sometimes worse than anything! You start waiting for it to happen, and it's a little frustrating.

i ain't scaredanoghost!

LOL, you should be!

[goldustsongbird]

finally going to see her tomorrow! I'm... slightly happy? Wish me luck, I guess. :distress:

[SuzeQuze]

So on topic of depression and therapists etc...does anyone else have fits with insurance and the coverage of mental health?

It pisses me off -like it's just not important - my insurance (in NY--where my worst depression hit) didn't cover mental health!!!! Is this an issue with anyone else?

You have to get a biological diagnosis for ongoing care as opposed to a situational or environmental problem.

:confused: People can be really insensitive sometimes. I tend to take it personally, which can be a problem... it's not always intended that way. Some people just don't think. So, yeah, are they the right people? I found out awhile ago that some of them aren't. Some, I'm still hanging on to, but I'm about to cut the ties if they keep being dickwads. I know what you mean about online friends, though. They're basically all I have now, as pathetic as that might sound. I'll PM ya if I need anything. :xoxo:

...

Yes! I'm just learning that some people just don't think. I'm a thinker and always have been so its a foreign concept to me. I guess I have to limit my time with non-thinkers cuz they seriously make me nuts. I can't even help it.

I had to cut ties with a lot of people which still has left a void where I want new friends! I think alot of people can relate to that in this modern cut off kind of society we live in. It is hard to connect and have a sense of community when you work so hard and everyone is so wary of strangers.