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irishgrl
10-23-2006, 05:38 AM
my cat O'Brien has been missing in action for a couple of days and now I know why. He tangled with something that made his tooth jut straight out front like a tusk. I opened his mouth to see if I could push the tooth back but it looks like the whole root and everything is displaced. I dont know what to do, I cant afford the freakin vet but I dont want him to get an infection....I dont see any blood or anything and hes purring and not in any apparent pain but thats gotta be miserable...

here's a quick pic:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/celtic4evr/obrienstooth.jpg

sara1998
10-23-2006, 07:11 AM
Aw, poor thing. Looks miserable. If he's not hurting, I'd say forget the vet. Last time I went, he put me in debt.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 07:47 AM
Aw, poor thing. Looks miserable. If he's not hurting, I'd say forget the vet. Last time I went, he put me in debt.

well, Im torn, because Im not sure if it should be pulled or what....he just wolfed down a can of wet cat food so he has his appetite and he was purring and kneading on my blanket (and me!) so he seems to be in ok spirits, but Im thinking something needs to be done? I'd like it best of all if it could be pushed back or maybe surgically put back into its rightful place....

JazmenFlowers
10-23-2006, 08:48 AM
oh I'm so sorry. I hope he's not in any pain. good luck.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 08:51 AM
oh I'm so sorry. I hope he's not in any pain. good luck.

thanks hon....I called my mom and gave her all the gory details, and she seems to think nature will take care of it.. especially since he isnt acting like he's hurt :shrug: in fact, he just went back outside...

sammigold
10-23-2006, 09:17 AM
I hope your cat is ok.... can I just say though, that I have read that cats can purr because of distress as well as contentment etc...

I would keep an eye on his mouth over the next day or so and maybe if its dislodged (the tooth), it may be better to actually pull it out... I know that sounds gross but I think (and it is only my thought, Im not an expert or anything!) but I think that if you pull it out it is less likely to get an infection from stuff getting into the gum under the tooth.. does that make sense... I would ideally recommend the vet.. as the mouth is a very sensitive area and cats are unable to tell you if they are in pain...

a few years back, my cat was drooling all the time.. . no other symptoms, no hint of pain...was eating wet food and dry food... but he was starting to drool excessively... I took him to the vet and it turned out that he had pretty badly infected gums and had to have them cauterised.. he is fine now... but the vet said that he would have been in pain even though it didnt seem like he was...

Maybe give your cat a chicken neck or something to chew on and see if nature takes its course and the tooth comes out naturally... Good LUck!!! Hope he gets better!!! :nod:
c ya
sammi

bikerchic
10-23-2006, 09:49 AM
HUGE cat lover here. I'm so sorry to hear about your kittie. My 2 cents: I would take him to the vet. Only because, I know with humans, anything to do with the teeth, HURT.

BlackWidow
10-23-2006, 09:54 AM
my cat O'Brien has been missing in action for a couple of days and now I know why. He tangled with something that made his tooth jut straight out front like a tusk. I opened his mouth to see if I could push the tooth back but it looks like the whole root and everything is displaced. I dont know what to do, I cant afford the freakin vet but I dont want him to get an infection....I dont see any blood or anything and hes purring and not in any apparent pain but thats gotta be miserable...

here's a quick pic:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/celtic4evr/obrienstooth.jpg

TAKE HIS ASS TO THE VET!!! NOW!!!

michelle2677
10-23-2006, 02:01 PM
I think you should take him to the vet. My dog lost the exact same tooth on the other side. According to the vet, they arent' that important of teeth (I thought they would be, being canines and all) but she asked me "how often does murray go out in the wild and chase a gazelle or antelope" As far a I knew, only once a month. :laugh:

but seriously, she said they don't use those as much, becuase they are for tearing, and most of them eat "catfood/dogfood" etc.

But now you're looking at a possible infection and just the fact, if the tooth is loose, it's going to keep the area aggravated if it stays mobile (remember when you were a kid and had a loose baby tooth) If you can pull part of it out, and then take him in-they will probably just inspect him/her and give antibiotic (at least that's what they did for Murray) she said that is a VERY long tooth..(for dogs anyway) and the extraction will more than likely do more harm than good. Unless the antibiotic didn't help the healing process. I hope everthing works out and Kisses to your kitty.

skcin
10-23-2006, 02:18 PM
Where's Miss Vicky when you need her? :p

I wouldn't mess around with teeth - too risky as far as infection, abscess, being close to sinuses, etc. Better to take him now, hopefully they can just pull it & give him an antibiotic, as opposed to ending up with major complications later.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 02:20 PM
well guys, I appreciate the advice and I think the vet is the best thing to do...but Im flat broke AND he wanted out so I let him go :shrug: now I cant find him...If he comes back in, I will take him to the vet up the road and pray I can make payments...

JazmenFlowers
10-23-2006, 02:21 PM
well guys, I appreciate the advice and I think the vet is the best thing to do...but Im flat broke AND he wanted out so I let him go :shrug: now I cant find him...If he comes back in, I will take him to the vet up the road and pray I can make payments...
surely they'll work something out for you. or you can put it on a credit card and pay it off when you can.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 02:25 PM
surely they'll work something out for you. or you can put it on a credit card and pay it off when you can.

all my cards are maxxed. I ran them up to pay for food when my ex didnt pay me childcare $$$. He owes me over $2K. my best friend now buys my groceries for me. Im broker than the 10 Commandments. seriously. but I will beg and plead and see where that gets me.

JazmenFlowers
10-23-2006, 02:26 PM
all my cards are maxxed. I ran them up to pay for food when my ex didnt pay me childcare $$$. He owes me over $2K. my best friend now buys my groceries for me. Im broker than the 10 Commandments. seriously. but I will beg and plead and see where that gets me.
oh chit. sorry. it'll work out. don't worry.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 02:32 PM
oh chit. sorry. it'll work out. don't worry.

pray for O'Brien for me will ya? Thanks :xoxo:

DrummerDeanna
10-23-2006, 02:56 PM
:distress: Poor kitty!

Now my best friend many years ago had a cat that jumped out of a moving vehicle...and the exact same thing happened to its tooth!!

She was also broker than broke....so didn't take the cat to the vet - and it grew into adulthood with the wonky tooth - it never affected him, his eating, never got infected.

Looking back - probably not the best thing - but she could barely pay rent let alone vet bills..but she'd rescued the cat and couldnt' give it up.

Anyway -I hope your kitty is ok.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 03:49 PM
:distress: Poor kitty!

Now my best friend many years ago had a cat that jumped out of a moving vehicle...and the exact same thing happened to its tooth!!

She was also broker than broke....so didn't take the cat to the vet - and it grew into adulthood with the wonky tooth - it never affected him, his eating, never got infected.

Looking back - probably not the best thing - but she could barely pay rent let alone vet bills..but she'd rescued the cat and couldnt' give it up.

Anyway -I hope your kitty is ok.

well, I wish I could find him but he's probably resting somewhere. rest is always good. all I can say is he wasnt in obvious distress, eating, drinking water, kneading my bedspread, loving on me, just as normal....seriously!
no temp, no bleeding, no nothing...

DrummerDeanna
10-23-2006, 03:54 PM
Well I'd say that's a good sign, but I'm no vet.

But like I did say earlier, my friend's cat lived a long and full life with his tooth jutting straight out. Since you're cat is still eating and drinking I'd say that's definitely a good sign.

irishgrl
10-23-2006, 03:57 PM
Well I'd say that's a good sign, but I'm no vet.

But like I did say earlier, my friend's cat lived a long and full life with his tooth jutting straight out. Since you're cat is still eating and drinking I'd say that's definitely a good sign.

I pray you're right :angel:

BlackWidow
10-23-2006, 09:36 PM
sayin kitty prayers.......

Lisa1769
10-23-2006, 10:12 PM
How aweful. Don't you hate being in situations like that, where you feel absoulutely helpless. I feel for ya girl!!! Try not to worry so much, I know it's hard though. Sendin Kitty prayers!!

desertangel
10-24-2006, 02:42 AM
aawww... get better kitty. Kitties are survivors, so think positive! :angel:

irishgrl
10-24-2006, 05:21 AM
Thanks everyone, Im a bit worried, he hasnt come back yet this morning, and he usually does want to eat about now...I just hope he's ok....:(

JazmenFlowers
10-24-2006, 08:51 AM
I thought about your kitty last night.

if he does come back and you do take him to the vet, PM me and I'll try to help you.

sammigold
10-25-2006, 01:10 AM
I hope your kitty has come home!!!

Please let us know how things go... thinking of you!!

Sammi

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 06:37 AM
I thought about your kitty last night.

if he does come back and you do take him to the vet, PM me and I'll try to help you.

Thanks Jason, he's still not back and now Im really worried...I will tell you all when he comes back and what sort of condition he is in....gosh...I've had him for 12 or 13 years (I always lose count!) and he is so loveable and sweet....Im just sick about this....and I feel guilty because I let him go out, but he acted so NORMAL in every way that I didnt stop to think about abcesses or infections or any of that, I just let him do what he wanted, and now, if he is hurt somewhere and I cant help him, I'll just die. :distress:

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 06:38 AM
I hope your kitty has come home!!!

Please let us know how things go... thinking of you!!

Sammi

Thanks Sammi :xoxo:

Kelly
10-25-2006, 07:05 AM
Aww, kitties are my weakness. Hopefully he is just sleeping somewhere.

I would take him to the vet...don't tell them you cannot pay until AFTER they work on him. I made payments when I had a problem with one of my cats. I could not pay the whole bill at the time so they sort of had no choice...but I did make the payments every month.

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 07:24 AM
Aww, kitties are my weakness. Hopefully he is just sleeping somewhere.

I would take him to the vet...don't tell them you cannot pay until AFTER they work on him. I made payments when I had a problem with one of my cats. I could not pay the whole bill at the time so they sort of had no choice...but I did make the payments every month.


I hope he's ok too...and I've already decided I will take him if he comes back home---unless the tooth is already out, and maybe even then if it looks like he has an infection or something...this will make 2 days without food so he's getting weaker Im sure...and he will need his strength to fight off any infection.

JUST COME HOME O.B.

sammigold
10-25-2006, 07:23 PM
Maybe try looking under your house or in your garage in any small dark space, ask your neighbours to check under theirs and in their garages or any sort of quiet place that could he may hide in... usually a cat will try and hide in a very dark place... you may be able to find him somewhere like that... GOOD LUCK!!!

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 07:54 PM
Maybe try looking under your house or in your garage in any small dark space, ask your neighbours to check under theirs and in their garages or any sort of quiet place that could he may hide in... usually a cat will try and hide in a very dark place... you may be able to find him somewhere like that... GOOD LUCK!!!

UPDATE:
I went around my back yard calling for him when I got home from work....I went to my neighbor's fence, and I saw him sitting next to their back deck. he squeaked at me a time or two but didnt come near me. I couldnt tell if his tooth fell out or not because he was too far away...and then my neighbor came outside to get some wood for his fireplace and scared my cat back under the deck. I dont know what kind of shape he was in but he was sitting up normal and he did squeak at me (he never did meow very robust) So, I know he's not dead and I know he heard me call him and I know he saw me but I dont know if he's hurting or infected or anything else because he was too far away and now he's back in the black hole under that deck. Damn.

DrummerDeanna
10-25-2006, 08:14 PM
Ugh. I'm so sorry - how frustrating...I'd be beside myself if I couldn't get to Clancy....I hope your kitty comes near...sorry to say but it's not a good sign that he's so reluctant - he may just be in pain and confused etc...

I really hope things work out for the best though...

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 08:28 PM
Ugh. I'm so sorry - how frustrating...I'd be beside myself if I couldn't get to Clancy....I hope your kitty comes near...sorry to say but it's not a good sign that he's so reluctant - he may just be in pain and confused etc...

I really hope things work out for the best though...

actually, he's like that. He'll come to the front door and claw the screen cuz he wants in and then as soon as I open it, he runs away....he's a butt that way.

all my cats are butts. but I love them :rolleyes:

DrummerDeanna
10-25-2006, 08:32 PM
actually, he's like that. He'll come to the front door and claw the screen cuz he wants in and then as soon as I open it, he runs away....he's a butt that way.

all my cats are butts. but I love them :rolleyes:

Oh ok..good, as long as his behaviour isn't too unusual - that's when I'd start really worrying. I think all pets are butts...and yep, we love 'em anyway :laugh:

JazmenFlowers
10-25-2006, 08:47 PM
I sure hope this all works out.

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 08:53 PM
I sure hope this all works out.

Me too Jason, at least he came out where I could see him and he squeaked at me...(thats his NORMAL meow) so thats a good sign. I just wish I would have gotten a closer look so I could determine if he's infected or not....

irishgrl
10-25-2006, 09:06 PM
HUZZAH! HUZZAH!

I shoulda thought of this earlier! I took the cat food container outside and shook it and guess who came running? old empty stomach, thats who!

hes scarfing down a can of wet food right now, and I took a quick look the tooth is gone. I think there's some jagged edges but I'll look later. Right now, its more important that he eat. still no obvious blood anywhere....

here he is:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/celtic4evr/OBrien.jpg

and another:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/celtic4evr/OBrien2.jpg

why are they two different sizes? sorry they're fuzzy, I took them in my bedroom and its dark somehow, even with the lights on :shrug:

he hasnt stopped kneading the blankets since he came into the room 20 minutes ago! he's a happy camper I think :nod:

skcin
10-26-2006, 10:39 AM
Good, I'm glad he's back home. :angel:

sammigold
10-26-2006, 07:43 PM
I am so glad he is back!!! I would just keep an eye on his mouth .... see how he travels over the next few days.

Yay!!!!! I am just so happy that he is back for you!!!!:]

irishgrl
10-26-2006, 07:45 PM
I am so glad he is back!!! I would just keep an eye on his mouth .... see how he travels over the next few days.

Yay!!!!! I am just so happy that he is back for you!!!!:]

Thanks Sammi. I know he is in the house here somewhere, but I dont know where. this is the bad part, where he hides. when he hides, I know something is wrong.

Gypsy-Rhiannon
10-27-2006, 02:04 AM
Thanks Sammi. I know he is in the house here somewhere, but I dont know where. this is the bad part, where he hides. when he hides, I know something is wrong.

I hope he comes out of hiding soon and is ok

Gypsy-Rhiannon
10-27-2006, 02:06 AM
I am so glad he is back!!! I would just keep an eye on his mouth .... see how he travels over the next few days.

Yay!!!!! I am just so happy that he is back for you!!!!:]

Hi Sammi... I noticed the link to the tribute band you're in and checked it out. The video clip is great... you do a good job! :nod: Sad to see that your webmaster ripped off another tribute bands website though :distress:

irishgrl
10-27-2006, 07:07 AM
ANOTHER UPDATE:

not only has my cat lost his upper canine, he's also lost the lower one on the OTHER side! what happened to my poor kitty????? :eek: :eek: :eek:

there's just a hole where the tooth was, poor thing.....:distress:

Gypsy-Rhiannon
10-27-2006, 07:34 AM
ANOTHER UPDATE:

not only has my cat lost his upper canine, he's also lost the lower one on the OTHER side! what happened to my poor kitty????? :eek: :eek: :eek:

there's just a hole where the tooth was, poor thing.....:distress:

Oh my. What has he been up to to do that! Poor thing!

Miss Vicky
10-27-2006, 09:57 AM
ANOTHER UPDATE:

not only has my cat lost his upper canine, he's also lost the lower one on the OTHER side! what happened to my poor kitty????? :eek: :eek: :eek:

there's just a hole where the tooth was, poor thing.....:distress:


That is very strange. Have you started his meds yet?
He should prob. still see a vet to make sure there aren't any injuries that aren't apparent from the outside, though it seems doubtful that he has anything really serious going on if his appetite is normal. Has he vomited at all since you brought him inside?

Give me a call if you need any assistance.

SuzeQuze
10-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Please bring him to the vet, the poor thing.

irishgrl
10-27-2006, 11:24 AM
That is very strange. Have you started his meds yet?
He should prob. still see a vet to make sure there aren't any injuries that aren't apparent from the outside, though it seems doubtful that he has anything really serious going on if his appetite is normal. Has he vomited at all since you brought him inside?

Give me a call if you need any assistance.

no vomiting that I've seen, and he's eating dry cat food like normal...still no temp and no swelling and no bleeding and now, no teeth. nothing in the socket for the vet to pull........no injuries, believe me, Ive been all over his head/body loving on him, and he's just normal, except he's now missing two teeth :distress: his ears are cool, his nose is wet, he makes bread in my blanket, he squeaks at me, all is well otherwise....I called the vet yesterday to find out how much an office call would be in case he was worse, but really? I think he's going to be ok......Im still keeping an eye on him tho to be sure.

And Vicky, you have no idea how much your help/support mean to me. Under that "grouchy" exterior lurks a heart of GOLD :nod: :xoxo:

ragandbone
10-27-2006, 11:43 AM
well, I am so glad to hear that he came back and that he seems fine!:)

sammigold
10-29-2006, 07:34 AM
Hi Sammi... I noticed the link to the tribute band you're in and checked it out. The video clip is great... you do a good job! :nod: Sad to see that your webmaster ripped off another tribute bands website though :distress:

Yes, very unfortunate and he has his tail between his legs eating humble pie. And will be of course fixing the error of his ways...

Thanks for the nice words about the clip...

cheers,
sammi

Janet
10-29-2006, 03:06 PM
I am glad the kitty is ok.

I am always broke too and my cat one day ( he's only 1) wouldn't move..eat...nothing. I was so upset I just took him to the er vet 45 minutes away. Turned out he had a 105 fever. 235 dollars. I had to spend my rent money.

It's very hard to have animals if they are sick...but I still have them--so I know your pain.

But next time...just call-tell them ahead of time. No real vet will let an animal die over money...they can make arrangements. They have for my mom many times.

Another thing...maybe keep the cat in until everything clears? My cat BooBoo ( rip) was an outdoor cat from 1985 until 1998 when dogs got to her. We thought she was going to die-but it turned out she only had torn ligaments and she stayed inside the bathroom for a week and turned out very healthy. The rest of her life ( 1998-2005) she was an indoor cat. She would meow her head off but I think keeping her in prolonged her life and after awhile..she got used to it. My cats now do NOT go outside.

But I know that's hard to do...I mean my cat would just scream at the door at first...everyday you wanted to give in and just let her out.

You are a good mommy and I hope your beautiful kitty is ok:)

JazmenFlowers
10-29-2006, 11:12 PM
glad things are looking up.

irishgrl
10-30-2006, 07:21 AM
glad things are looking up.
Thanks Jason :xoxo: your support has meant a lot to me too :nod:
In fact, ALL of you have really pulled me thru this difficult time. My kitty seems to be fine, just minus two teeth but no fevers, he's eating and drinking and pooping and doing all the normal stuff, so I guess the worst is passed.
Thanks again everyone for giving a damn :angel:

BlackWidow
10-30-2006, 07:27 AM
MMMMMMMMeeeoowwwwwwwwwwww

sammigold
10-30-2006, 06:46 PM
Glad to hear he is okay!