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HomerMcvie
10-21-2006, 03:50 AM
Looks like Chris' own site forum has been hacked again!:( :( :(

Don't people have something better to do???

Gailh
10-21-2006, 04:26 AM
Looks like Chris' own site forum has been hacked again!:( :( :(

Don't people have something better to do???

Obviously not. Bastards! :mad: :mad:

Gail

macfan 57
10-21-2006, 05:37 AM
This is ridiculous & we had a nice little discussion going too in the last day or so.

Some idiot Turkish hacker.:mad:




Gail, have you tried to contact Martin Wyatt lately?

nicepace
10-21-2006, 09:43 AM
Yeah, that is so disappointing. I really enjoyed Christine's website's forum. I met a lot of nice people over there. This place (The Ledge) isn't the same -- I'm not saying anything against it, but I enjoyed having a place that was just for Chris fans. (Plus the blinking, jumping smileys at this forum very literally give me a headache -- I can only stay on this forum for about two minutes for that reason -- tell me I'm not the only person left on the internet who hates smileys!!!!!)

macfan 57
10-21-2006, 10:11 AM
Yeah, that is so disappointing. I really enjoyed Christine's website's forum. I met a lot of nice people over there. This place (The Ledge) isn't the same -- I'm not saying anything against it, but I enjoyed having a place that was just for Chris fans. (Plus the blinking, jumping smileys at this forum very literally give me a headache -- I can only stay on this forum for about two minutes for that reason -- tell me I'm not the only person left on the internet who hates smileys!!!!!)

I totally agree about the Chris website forum being just for Chris fans. I guess it stayed up longer than I thought it would since it's been nearly 2 1/2 years since ITM was released. It's funny about the website itself. They only hacked into the message board, not the main site.

The smilie function doesn't bother me at all, but nicepace I think you can disable it here on the Ledge. At the bottom of the page under Posting Rules, it says smilies. Mine says ON. Maybe you can turn yours off.

Aisling
10-21-2006, 12:21 PM
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?!? this was NOT what i wanted to wake up and see. :distress: i guess it was the same people from the first time; .they were turkish too.

i think the reason they hacked into the forum and not the main site is because the forum is built on php and the site is just regular html. no one has updated the php in awhile, so they probably found a loophole somewhere and used it to get in. if someone had just been abe to access the forum, they could have updated it with whatever security patches were necessary! it would have taken 5 minuts. it's really upsetting. and i would use another sad smiley right now, but i don't want joanne to get a headache and leave! LOL

i hope ian makes it over here, it would be too sad if he didn't. ian if you're reading this, give us a shout!

Gailh
10-21-2006, 12:30 PM
This is ridiculous & we had a nice little discussion going too in the last day or so.

Some idiot Turkish hacker.:mad:




Gail, have you tried to contact Martin Wyatt lately?

I sent him an email on the 25th September regarding the idiot troll but I haven't heard from him at all.

I am assuming that he is not concerned with the current site. This could mean that neither he or Christine is bothered about having a site or he's working on getting a new one going.

I hope it's the latter but quite honestly I think it could be the former.



Gail

Aisling
10-21-2006, 01:29 PM
I sent him an email on the 25th September regarding the idiot troll but I haven't heard from him at all.

I am assuming that he is not concerned with the current site. This could mean that neither he or Christine is bothered about having a site or he's working on getting a new one going.

I hope it's the latter but quite honestly I think it could be the former.

Gail

speaking of the troll, i never got a chance to put my plan into motion!!! i was really looking forward to that. turkish hacker, you cheated me of my sweet revenge!!!!:mad:

in terms of martin wyatt, maybe we should all try emailing again? put some friendly pressure on the situation? what does everyone think?

macfan 57
10-21-2006, 05:52 PM
i think the reason they hacked into the forum and not the main site is because the forum is built on php and the site is just regular html. no one has updated the php in awhile, so they probably found a loophole somewhere and used it to get in. if someone had just been abe to access the forum, they could have updated it with whatever security patches were necessary! it would have taken 5 minuts.


Even though I don't completely understand your explanation, it does make sense.:) Maybe that's why the forum was fine until this year after that guy at Sanctuary abandoned it.

i hope ian makes it over here, it would be too sad if he didn't. ian if you're reading this, give us a shout!

Ian is registered here on the Ledge as electronicstorm. Hopefully, he'll check in here.

macfan 57
10-21-2006, 05:56 PM
I hope it's the latter but quite honestly I think it could be the former.
Gail

I hate to say it, but I think you may be right.:distress:

Aisling
10-21-2006, 10:45 PM
Ian is registered here on the Ledge as electronicstorm. Hopefully, he'll check in here.


oh good. i hope so. ian, won't you come out to play? :laugh:

nicepace
10-23-2006, 08:51 AM
Gail, is there an email address we could all be using to email Martin Wyatt about the site? I think if we all sent an email maybe he would notice. (Maybe not, but we can't just do nothing.) You can send me a private message if you'd rather, but I think I'd like to at least try. It's an embarrassment for Christine to have a website that hasn't been updated in over two years and a message board that's been hacked, and nobody cares except the fans. (Boo, hoo.)

My guess is that Christine has more or less forgotten she has a website. For those of us who use the internet every day for all kinds of things, it's almost hard to remember what it was like before the internet, but for Christine, that's the way it is. If she wants to know the weather forecast, she puts on the radio. Can you even imagine?

By the way, I've disabled smileys, so more headaches! All I had to do was set my browser to not display images on this site. I can't tell you what a relief this is to look at plain text that sits still. Text rules.

macfan 57
10-23-2006, 11:11 AM
I don't have Mr. Wyatt's e-mail address either. Gail, if you think it might be a good idea for the rest of us to e-mail him, send me a private message.

I'm sure Chris doesn't have much if any interest in her website, although she did just recently get a laptop & was using it.

I remember in George Hawkins Q & A, he mentioned that she didn't like to communicate via e-mail since she liked to hear the sound of a human voice instead.:D

Gailh
10-23-2006, 12:54 PM
I've sent a private message to a few people giving them Martin Wyatt's email address.

Homer - do you want it as well?

Gail

HomerMcvie
10-23-2006, 01:01 PM
G-G-Giddyup!

electronicstorm
10-23-2006, 06:45 PM
Ok, well some people just suck donkey balls! This is just so absurd! I don't get it, is it entertaining to hack sites? Wooooooo Hoooooooooo hackers you hacked a music forum, boy you're F-ing genius' now. Let me know when you hack My little pony web site too! I bet that'll be a huge accomplishment as well. Assh**es! Any who that said, I was really hoping this type of post was not going to be my first on The Ledge, but oh hell, what can I say! It's time to play at another play ground...:blob1: hehehe I like these smilies here!!

HomerMcvie
10-23-2006, 06:50 PM
Welcome Ian!!!
Glad to see you made it over here!:wavey:

electronicstorm
10-23-2006, 06:57 PM
:wavey: Howdy Homer! I like your sig!

HomerMcvie
10-23-2006, 07:21 PM
:wavey: Howdy Homer! I like your sig!

I just like to see what I can get away with! (that's not the reason, but I can't say it in public).

macfan 57
10-24-2006, 05:46 AM
Ok, well some people just suck donkey balls! This is just so absurd! I don't get it, is it entertaining to hack sites? Wooooooo Hoooooooooo hackers you hacked a music forum, boy you're F-ing genius' now. Let me know when you hack My little pony web site too! I bet that'll be a huge accomplishment as well. Assh**es! Any who that said, I was really hoping this type of post was not going to be my first on The Ledge, but oh hell, what can I say! It's time to play at another play ground...:blob1: hehehe I like these smilies here!!

Hi Ian!:wavey:

Gailh
10-24-2006, 10:00 AM
Ok, well some people just suck donkey balls! This is just so absurd! I don't get it, is it entertaining to hack sites? Wooooooo Hoooooooooo hackers you hacked a music forum, boy you're F-ing genius' now. Let me know when you hack My little pony web site too! I bet that'll be a huge accomplishment as well. Assh**es! Any who that said, I was really hoping this type of post was not going to be my first on The Ledge, but oh hell, what can I say! It's time to play at another play ground...:blob1: hehehe I like these smilies here!!

Ian - glad to see you made it over here!

Gail

PS check your private messages

Aisling
10-24-2006, 12:54 PM
yay ian! :thumbsup: i miss christine's board, but i'm glad everyone is reconvening here.

electronicstorm
10-24-2006, 01:53 PM
he he he he hello everyone! :wavey: :D

electronicstorm
10-24-2006, 02:00 PM
speaking of the troll, i never got a chance to put my plan into motion!!! i was really looking forward to that. turkish hacker, you cheated me of my sweet revenge!!!!:mad:

in terms of martin wyatt, maybe we should all try emailing again? put some friendly pressure on the situation? what does everyone think?


Aisling, I got your email about that little creature of the night. I was totally shocked you managed to find out who he is. Now that's great detective work! Ever since you found out who it was I was just waiting for him to come back on... :nod:

Aisling
10-24-2006, 02:17 PM
Aisling, I got your email about that little creature of the night. I was totally shocked you managed to find out who he is. Now that's great detective work! Ever since you found out who it was I was just waiting for him to come back on... :nod:

i'm still keeping vigiliant watch. who knows where these little trolls might show up in the future!?

macfan 57
10-24-2006, 02:47 PM
i'm still keeping vigiliant watch. who knows where these little trolls might show up in the future!?

Well, he is on the Ledge. How else would he have gotten the secret entrance to the message board on Christine's site?

I doubt he'll post in this forum since fortunately there are moderators on the Ledge.

Gailh
10-24-2006, 02:49 PM
Well, he is on the Ledge. How else would he have gotten the secret entrance to the message board on Christine's site?

I doubt he'll post in this forum since fortunately there are moderators on the Ledge.

Yes that's true.

He hasn't got the balls to start anything here.

Gail

macfan 57
10-24-2006, 02:53 PM
Yes that's true.

He hasn't got the balls to start anything here.

Gail

Just think Gail, that last user name that he used is now gone forever.;) :laugh:

Gailh
10-24-2006, 02:57 PM
Just think Gail, that last user name that he used is now gone forever.;) :laugh:

Aah yes "Gail the loser" - I am so proud

Actually that didn't particularly bother me.

And although I know it caused a great deal of inconvenience when the little twerp made all those stupid postings I was glad I did get under his skin enough to make him do it

Gail

Aisling
10-24-2006, 03:09 PM
Yes that's true.

He hasn't got the balls to start anything here.

Gail


i keep forgetting that the little psycho is probably skulking in the corners, watching us.

you're right, he would never start anything here . . .although it would be amusing to see him try (and then fail, miserably). christine's board was like the OK-corral- lawless, yet exciting! LOL

Gailh
10-24-2006, 03:16 PM
i keep forgetting that the little psycho is probably skulking in the corners, watching us.

you're right, he would never start anything here . . .although it would be amusing to see him try (and then fail, miserably). christine's board was like the OK-corral- lawless, yet exciting! LOL

I thought we were all pretty lawful actually! (well most of us)

Gail

Aisling
10-24-2006, 03:24 PM
I thought we were all pretty lawful actually! (well most of us)

Gail

considering the level of provocation we received, i'd say that's actually more to the truth. we should give ourselves a round of applause for being so level headed. :laugh:

HomerMcvie
10-24-2006, 05:51 PM
Well, I'd be more upset about this, if we didn't still have the Ledge. I've always wondered anyway, how long her site would stay up(how long "someone-whoever that is" would pay for it).
And, wouldn't you think we'd get more trolls here? We seemed to get alot more trolls over there.
Anyway, I'm glad that we've still got our spot here!:xoxo:

macfan 57
10-24-2006, 06:12 PM
Well, I'd be more upset about this, if we didn't still have the Ledge. I've always wondered anyway, how long her site would stay up(how long "someone-whoever that is" would pay for it).
And, wouldn't you think we'd get more trolls here? We seemed to get alot more trolls over there.
Anyway, I'm glad that we've still got our spot here!:xoxo:

I'm more upset at the way that message board ended, rather than the fact that it ended. It stayed up longer than I ever thought it would.

It is weird about the trolls on that board rather than here in this forum. I still think having a moderator here helps ALOT. There was a troll on the Ledge a few years ago (before the Chris forum began)who absolutely HATED Christine. He was unbelievably vulgar. He felt that Chris persecuted Stevie.:laugh: This was before you got here, Homer.;) I know he got at least one strike, because he complained about it. He may have eventually been banned, I'm not sure.

HomerMcvie
10-24-2006, 06:20 PM
I'm more upset at the way that message board ended, rather than the fact that it ended. It stayed up longer than I ever thought it would.

It is weird about the trolls on that board rather than here in this forum. I still think having a moderator here helps ALOT. There was a troll on the Ledge a few years ago (before the Chris forum began)who absolutely HATED Christine. He was unbelievably vulgar. He felt that Chris persecuted Stevie.:laugh: This was before you got here, Homer.;) I know he got at least one strike, because he complained about it. He may have eventually been banned, I'm not sure.

Our MIA David is the one who brought me here, from Usenet(I sure miss having him here).

I know it sucks that the board has been frozen. I too, have emailed Martin. Maybe if we cross our fingers......

Are the hackers not able to hack this site though? Is it different? I guess I don't understand all the technical stuff about programming(to say the least!).

macfan 57
10-24-2006, 06:25 PM
Are the hackers not able to hack this site though? Is it different? I guess I don't understand all the technical stuff about programming(to say the least!).

I'm not a tech wiz either. But I remember the Penguin(and the Ledge) was hacked into several years ago, supposedly by somebody in Portugal(maybe Eddy Quintela?:laugh: ). Then the entire site was moved to a new server. I think it's been OK since. Maybe the new server is more secure?:confused:

Gailh
10-25-2006, 02:40 AM
I think having moderators helps a lot as well.

also here I don't think you can register with a hotmail type email address.

Our troll on Chris' site had several different email addresses none of which would have been allowed here.

Personally I think Christine (or Martin Wyatt) need to make their minds up whether they actually want a site or not.

Either have an updated secure site with a forum or just forget about the whole thing and we'll chat here.

Gail

macfan 57
10-25-2006, 06:27 AM
Personally I think Christine (or Martin Wyatt) need to make their minds up whether they actually want a site or not.

Either have an updated secure site with a forum or just forget about the whole thing and we'll chat here.

Gail

I agree. I wonder if the indecision has something to do with Chris being unsure whether she wants to ever record again. If she is totally, completely 100% retired, why would she even have a website?

Gailh
10-25-2006, 07:12 AM
I agree. I wonder if the indecision has something to do with Chris being unsure whether she wants to ever record again. If she is totally, completely 100% retired, why would she even have a website?

Yes I think you could be right about that.

We thought, and probably she thought, she was retired when she came back to England and then we got In the Meantime.

Maybe she really is retired now but as you say why bother with a website?

The domain name registration expires in 2007 and was first registered in 2003.

How long do registrations last? If it's two years then it must have been renewed.

Gail

Aisling
10-25-2006, 09:47 AM
He felt that Chris persecuted Stevie.:laugh:


what!??!?!?! in what way!?!?!? :laugh:

Aisling
10-25-2006, 10:09 AM
Are the hackers not able to hack this site though? Is it different? I guess I don't understand all the technical stuff about programming(to say the least!).

i'm bad at explaining these things, but i'll give it a shot.

christine's board and the ledge are both built on php, which is a scripting language. hackers target scripts because they are comprised of so many parts, so the more parts, the more chances there are of finding a weakness that they can exploit.

vbulletin (which the ledge uses) and phpBB (which christine's forum used), are always on the lookout for problems in their code; it's a never ending process. you fix something, someone finds a new way to hack in. you fix that, they find a way to hack through your fix. repeat ad nauseum. so companies are constantly issuing newer versions of their product, or offering security patches, updates, trying to keep one step ahead of idiots like our turkish friends.

in a way, it's kind of like anti virus software: in order to stay alive, it has to keep updating itself.

because there was no one updating christine's site, the exploit the hackers used to get in was never covered by a security patch.

hope that was sort of helpful.

Aisling
10-25-2006, 10:16 AM
The domain name registration expires in 2007 and was first registered in 2003.

How long do registrations last? If it's two years then it must have been renewed.


unfortunately there's no way to tell because you can register a domain name for up to 10 years i think. you might even be able to do it for longer than that, i'm not quite sure.

anyways, i would think that if they had no interest, they would just take it down or put it on permanent hiatus. i mean, someone had to have gone in to take the forum link off the main page. just take the whole site down if you have no use for it anymore. it certainly doesn't benefit anyone having old information out there.

at least, this is what i tell myself as i cling to the desperate hope that something amazing is in the works for christinemcvie.com ;)

macfan 57
10-25-2006, 11:00 AM
what!??!?!?! in what way!?!?!? :laugh:

He claimed that Chris spent the entire time that Stevie was in the band being mean to her, notwithstanding that these 2 ladies were/are good friends.:laugh:

He used horrible, vulgar language regarding Christine. It was worse because at that time there were hardly any Christine fans on the Ledge. He tried to ruin every thread that anyone started about Chris. Someone even joked that maybe he was an old boyfriend of Chris's. But, no he was just a complete lunatic.

macfan 57
10-25-2006, 11:03 AM
i'm bad at explaining these things, but i'll give it a shot.

christine's board and the ledge are both built on php, which is a scripting language. hackers target scripts because they are comprised of so many parts, so the more parts, the more chances there are of finding a weakness that they can exploit.

vbulletin (which the ledge uses) and phpBB (which christine's forum used), are always on the lookout for problems in their code; it's a never ending process. you fix something, someone finds a new way to hack in. you fix that, they find a way to hack through your fix. repeat ad nauseum. so companies are constantly issuing newer versions of their product, or offering security patches, updates, trying to keep one step ahead of idiots like our turkish friends.

in a way, it's kind of like anti virus software: in order to stay alive, it has to keep updating itself.

because there was no one updating christine's site, the exploit the hackers used to get in was never covered by a security patch.

hope that was sort of helpful.

Yes, that does help to explain it. It kind of sounds like the Windows Updates that you have to download & install every month.

I wish you had been in charge of that website. Then those hackers wouldn't have been able to ruin that message board.:)

macfan 57
10-25-2006, 11:08 AM
anyways, i would think that if they had no interest, they would just take it down or put it on permanent hiatus. i mean, someone had to have gone in to take the forum link off the main page. just take the whole site down if you have no use for it anymore. it certainly doesn't benefit anyone having old information out there.

at least, this is what i tell myself as i cling to the desperate hope that something amazing is in the works for christinemcvie.com ;)

And, Mr. Wyatt did tell Gail that he hoped to move the site to a new server & get Sanctuary out of the way.

If by chance they do decide to do something with the site, they'll have to totally re-do it. Right now, the sole purpose of the site is to promote ITM, which is nearly 2 1/2 years old.

Gailh
10-25-2006, 01:29 PM
And, Mr. Wyatt did tell Gail that he hoped to move the site to a new server & get Sanctuary out of the way.

If by chance they do decide to do something with the site, they'll have to totally re-do it. Right now, the sole purpose of the site is to promote ITM, which is nearly 2 1/2 years old.

Yes the site has served its purpose in terms of promoting ITM so they will have to start from scratch.

But if she's not up to much these days (musically speaking) then I'm not sure what they'd put on it.

Any ideas anyone?

News flash - today Christine decided against taking the dogs for a long walk as it was raining!

Gail

Edit 19:39 They could release some of the outtakes from ITM or other unreleased songs

DavidMn
10-25-2006, 02:48 PM
I'm sorry all you guys had to deal with this asshole.:mad: No one should be able to disturb a forum like that where fans congregate.

macfan 57
10-25-2006, 03:56 PM
Edit 19:39 They could release some of the outtakes from ITM or other unreleased songs

There you go.:thumbsup: They're just going to waste sitting on her nephew's computer anyway.

goldustsongbird
10-25-2006, 04:22 PM
There you go.:thumbsup: They're just going to waste sitting on her nephew's computer anyway.

If those unreleased songs sound anything like Come Out and Play, she'd better damn well release them! CO&P was cute.

HomerMcvie
10-25-2006, 06:35 PM
i'm bad at explaining these things, but i'll give it a shot.

christine's board and the ledge are both built on php, which is a scripting language. hackers target scripts because they are comprised of so many parts, so the more parts, the more chances there are of finding a weakness that they can exploit.

vbulletin (which the ledge uses) and phpBB (which christine's forum used), are always on the lookout for problems in their code; it's a never ending process. you fix something, someone finds a new way to hack in. you fix that, they find a way to hack through your fix. repeat ad nauseum. so companies are constantly issuing newer versions of their product, or offering security patches, updates, trying to keep one step ahead of idiots like our turkish friends.

in a way, it's kind of like anti virus software: in order to stay alive, it has to keep updating itself.

because there was no one updating christine's site, the exploit the hackers used to get in was never covered by a security patch.

hope that was sort of helpful.

Wow. Thanks! I actually understand it (somewhat) now.

What I can't understand is, what kind of jerk gets a kick out of hacking sites? Talk about a LOSER!

nicepace
10-25-2006, 07:32 PM
As for why Chris would have a website at all when she's retired, well, doesn't everybody have a website? Musicians that are dead have websites. Beethoven has a website! (I actually don't know that he does, but I'll bet he does.) You know what I mean. If the person is continuing to produce new music, it's really important to have a website, but even if they're not, it's important for the fans.

The best musicians' websites are the ones maintained by fans, not by a record company.

Gailh
10-26-2006, 02:50 AM
The best musicians' websites are the ones maintained by fans, not by a record company.

Absolutely!

Gail

HomerMcvie
10-26-2006, 03:11 AM
Absolutely!


And the Ledge is the best place of them all!:xoxo:

macfan 57
10-26-2006, 05:42 AM
The best musicians' websites are the ones maintained by fans, not by a record company.

No truer words were ever spoken.:nod:

I remember when I first got online over 7 years ago. I checked out the official Fleetwood Mac website which was maintained by Warner Reprise. They still had Fleetwood Mac out on the Dance tour, 2 years after the Dance tour ended.:laugh: Originally, I thought the Penguin was the official FM site. It wasn't until a little bit later that I realized it was a fan site.

Aisling
10-26-2006, 12:55 PM
He claimed that Chris spent the entire time that Stevie was in the band being mean to her, notwithstanding that these 2 ladies were/are good friends.:laugh:

He used horrible, vulgar language regarding Christine. It was worse because at that time there were hardly any Christine fans on the Ledge. He tried to ruin every thread that anyone started about Chris. Someone even joked that maybe he was an old boyfriend of Chris's. But, no he was just a complete lunatic.


um wow. there are a lot of "special" people out here on the net, i guess. :laugh:

Aisling
10-26-2006, 12:58 PM
Yes, that does help to explain it. It kind of sounds like the Windows Updates that you have to download & install every month.

I wish you had been in charge of that website. Then those hackers wouldn't have been able to ruin that message board.:)

LOL thanks! yes, if i had been able to get into the forum control panel i would have made it my mission to virtually b*tchslap them from here to ankara.

Aisling
10-26-2006, 12:59 PM
As for why Chris would have a website at all when she's retired, well, doesn't everybody have a website? Musicians that are dead have websites. Beethoven has a website! (I actually don't know that he does, but I'll bet he does.) You know what I mean. If the person is continuing to produce new music, it's really important to have a website, but even if they're not, it's important for the fans.

The best musicians' websites are the ones maintained by fans, not by a record company.

i agree. her website doesn't have to be for promotional purposes. it should just be a celebration of her music and a place for fans to gather, or for new fans to learn about her.

but i wouldn't be opposed to her promoting new material, should the need arise. ;)

Aisling
10-26-2006, 01:01 PM
I remember when I first got online over 7 years ago. I checked out the official Fleetwood Mac website which was maintained by Warner Reprise. They still had Fleetwood Mac out on the Dance tour, 2 years after the Dance tour ended.:laugh:


much like today, where they still have the old SYW stuff posted. :cool:

nicepace
10-27-2006, 02:22 PM
I was able to get into the message board on Christine's website just now. I was able to access it by disabling Java in my browser and when I clicked on my bookmark for her message board, it came up. I tried posting a new post and it didn't work, but I was able to read all the old posts. So if anyone wants to rescue a thread from over there and re-start it over here, those threads *are* available.

My browser is Firefox on a Windows system -- I don't know if this would work with Internet Explorer or any of the other browsers. And it doesn't *fix* the problem, just makes it so we can still get that old information. We had some good threads going over there when we got hacked. (May the person who hacked our board be submerged slowly, toe first, in a vat of boiling oil, while being forced to listen to fingernails scraping across a blackboard.)

Gailh
10-27-2006, 02:36 PM
May the person who hacked our board be submerged slowly, toe first, in a vat of boiling oil, while being forced to listen to fingernails scraping across a blackboard.

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their armpits!

Gail

PS Thanks for the info

macfan 57
10-27-2006, 03:05 PM
I was able to get into the message board on Christine's website just now. I was able to access it by disabling Java in my browser and when I clicked on my bookmark for her message board, it came up. I tried posting a new post and it didn't work, but I was able to read all the old posts. So if anyone wants to rescue a thread from over there and re-start it over here, those threads *are* available.

My browser is Firefox on a Windows system -- I don't know if this would work with Internet Explorer or any of the other browsers. And it doesn't *fix* the problem, just makes it so we can still get that old information. We had some good threads going over there when we got hacked. (May the person who hacked our board be submerged slowly, toe first, in a vat of boiling oil, while being forced to listen to fingernails scraping across a blackboard.)

Can anyone bring over any threads here that may be of interest to some on this board? I'm using Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP. I don't know what java is or how to disable it.:confused: I'd be afraid to do that if I knew what it meant.:laugh: Also, I don't have the bookmark of the message board anymore. I deleted it since I thought the board was gone.

HomerMcvie
10-27-2006, 03:13 PM
Can anyone bring over any threads here that may be of interest to some on this board? I'm using Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP. I don't know what java is or how to disable it.:confused: I'd be afraid to do that if I knew what it meant.:laugh: Also, I don't have the bookmark of the message board anymore. I deleted it since I thought the board was gone.

Here's the one that first got hacked.
http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/
Here's the one we were using recently.
http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

Aisling
10-27-2006, 03:17 PM
i'll have internet access this weekend, so i can try to bring some threads over then. any suggestions on which ones to import ?

and to add to our list of hacker curses:

may the cat eat you, and may that cat be eaten by the devil!!

macfan 57
10-27-2006, 03:55 PM
Here's the one that first got hacked.
http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/
Here's the one we were using recently.
http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

Thanks, Homer.:)

macfan 57
10-27-2006, 03:58 PM
i'll have internet access this weekend, so i can try to bring some threads over then. any suggestions on which ones to import ?


Thanks, Aisling. I really don't want to start disabling stuff on my computer, especially since I wouldn't really know what I was doing.:)

Why don't you import what you think. You might want to bring over that last thread...you know;) He's at it again. I don't think we were done with that one. :D

Aisling
10-27-2006, 04:02 PM
Thanks, Aisling. I really don't want to start disabling stuff on my computer, especially since I wouldn't really know what I was doing.:)

Why don't you import what you think. You might want to bring over that last thread...you know;) He's at it again. I don't think we were done with that one. :D

ha ha ha, i can already tell that one's going to be really popular over here.

anyway, i'm driving out of the city after work. depending on what time i get in tonight, i might be able to do it later this evening.

macfan 57
10-27-2006, 05:38 PM
ha ha ha, i can already tell that one's going to be really popular over here.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Aisling, I see you already imported that thread. Amazingly, there was already a reply.;) :laugh:

Aisling
10-28-2006, 02:06 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Aisling, I see you already imported that thread. Amazingly, there was already a reply.;) :laugh:

yeah go figure. :laugh: anyway, i tried the java disabling method as suggested by joanne, but i can't get it to work. :( i was able to get the 'he's at it again' thread by taking the source code on the hacked main page and then recreating the real page on my hard drive. anyway the way i did it is a really long and tedious process, so it might take me a while to get certain threads over here. some of them are really long, i never noticed before!

again, if anyone has a "favourite" thread that they want rescued, please let me know.

but i will say right now that i refuse to import the game thread. that would probably take a decade. LOL

macfan 57
10-28-2006, 05:38 AM
yeah go figure. :laugh: anyway, i tried the java disabling method as suggested by joanne, but i can't get it to work. :( i was able to get the 'he's at it again' thread by taking the source code on the hacked main page and then recreating the real page on my hard drive. anyway the way i did it is a really long and tedious process, so it might take me a while to get certain threads over here. some of them are really long, i never noticed before!

again, if anyone has a "favourite" thread that they want rescued, please let me know.

but i will say right now that i refuse to import the game thread. that would probably take a decade. LOL

You must really be a tech wiz. I'm impressed.:thumbsup: Why don't you try to import the threads that had the most recent responses, assuming they're not too long. Don't worry about the game thread. I'll bet that might be the longest thread on the board.:laugh:

HomerMcvie
11-11-2006, 12:51 PM
Anyone tried Chris own forum lately? I get a different failure message now. I don't know if that means that someone's working on it, or???:confused:

We should all email Martin again.

Gailh
11-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Anyone tried Chris own forum lately? I get a different failure message now. I don't know if that means that someone's working on it, or???:confused:

We should all email Martin again.

It certainly looks different. I don't know whether that's a good sign or not!

I'm not sure emailing Martin Wyatt would help. Either he already knows about it because he's got someone on the case or he knows nothing and therefore can't help.

Gail

macfan 57
11-11-2006, 04:55 PM
That Turkish hacker message is gone. Now it says something about not being able to connect to the server. I don't know what all that stuff means. :confused: Someone definitely did something to it. I hope they're trying to move it to a new server, but I don't want to get my hopes up. The main page of the website is still the same, by the way.

Aisling
11-11-2006, 05:57 PM
i'm not exactly sure what happened, but i have a few theories. the most likely one is that the database was altered or deleted. either our turkish hacker did it (although i personally think that kind of work is too complicated for what his skill set seems to be), or someone legitimately went in and did it. the weird thing is that the actual pages still exist, they just won't display because of the failed connection to the database. if someone, like the webmaster, wanted to just get rid of the whole thing why keep the pages alive?

i hope that someone is trying to fix it. but i couldn't be completely wrong about all this, so, i won't get to excited about the possibility.

the sad thing is that if no one is trying to fix it, i can't go in and get any more threads. there were so many old ones that i never got around to picking up. :distress:

macfan 57
11-12-2006, 06:36 AM
the sad thing is that if no one is trying to fix it, i can't go in and get any more threads. there were so many old ones that i never got around to picking up. :distress:

That is sad.:nod: There were some great old threads that are probably gone forever.:distress: At least you were able to salvage a few.:)

I hadn't even considered that it could have been that Turkish hacker. I would think it is more likely that it's someone either trying to fix it or just getting rid of it. The actual website(christinemcvie.com) is still intact.

electronicstorm
12-01-2006, 12:14 AM
well crap is sure is the word of the year! I totally sucks that Christine's forum is completely gone, I can't even find a single link to the forum. Hacker's suck donkey balls with no looking back. I hope they are proud!! But it's good to see everyone here on the Ledge! :nod:

macfan 57
12-01-2006, 06:24 AM
well crap is sure is the word of the year! I totally sucks that Christine's forum is completely gone, I can't even find a single link to the forum. Hacker's suck donkey balls with no looking back. I hope they are proud!! But it's good to see everyone here on the Ledge! :nod:

Welcome back to the Ledge, Ian.:)

Aisling
12-01-2006, 09:30 AM
hi ian! :wavey: good to see you again. are you going on your trip soon ?

electronicstorm
12-02-2006, 01:24 AM
Yeah I am, I'm very excited, been very busy. I leave in 2 weeks! OMG I can't believe it, back to South Africa for the first time in 7 years, hectic!:] But I'm so ready to have a wonderful vacation...

HomerMcvie
12-02-2006, 02:53 AM
Have a safe and fun trip, Ian.

electronicstorm
12-02-2006, 12:02 PM
Thank you! :) Hope you have a great holiday season too! :woohoo: