In the Meantime Vs Under the Skin

[iamstevienicks]

Which do you prefer?

[DavidMn]

Interesting topic. I''ll cast the first vote for UTS.

[iamstevienicks]

Awww thanks, lol

ITM for me

[DavidMn]

I'm not a big fan of Christine's solo work. Dont hate it, just doesnt grab me really. Friend is very good though.:nod:

[iamstevienicks]

You Are was by far my favourite on ITM followed by Norther Star, Easy come easy go and Calumney

Its a lovely album!!

UTS hasnt grabbed me as yet!! :sorry:

[DavidMn]

You Are was by far my favourite on ITM followed by Norther Star, Easy come easy go and Calumney

Its a lovely album!!

UTS hasnt grabbed me as yet!! :sorry:
No problem We all have different tastes.:)

[joshywashy377]

Chris seems imo to get better as time goes by. for instance i love her tango era stuff/voice over early 70's and the new stuff is awesome as well, but Linds is my hero and there isnt one song on UTS i dont like, so had to go with it!

[aleuzzi]

In the meantime, by a long shot....

[dontlookdown]

i don't understand the point?

that's like comparing NY and LA.

they're totally different and have nothing to do with each other..

i thought Chris's album was really mediocre.

i think Lindsey's album is brilliant.

[shackin'up]

There's nothing to compare here. The question is simple. Which one do like more? You can say that for NY and LA so this must be no prob for you or anybody.

London or LA would have been a better metaphor in this case by the way.


PS: But I totally agree on your opinion of these albums ;)

[mylittledemon]

i don't understand the point?

that's like comparing NY and LA.

they're totally different and have nothing to do with each other..

i thought Chris's album was really mediocre.

i think Lindsey's album is brilliant.

Purty much hit the nail on the head.

[GypsySorcerer]

I love Chris, but this is a no brainer. UTS all the way.

[Gailh]

I voted ITM because I'm not a big fan of Lindsey's solo work.

Gail

[jbrownsjr]

I think UTS is really boring and bland. I'm trying to like it but can't. I think LB has lost his mind honestly. The country overtures make me nuts.

I think ITM grooves a lot better. "But others may disagree"... CM

[macfan 57]

In The Meantime, of course. It's a no brainer. I didn't buy(and have no intention of buying Under The Skin). I've only heard the songs on his website. The vocals on the new songs are horrible. I've always thought "Down On Rodeo" is beautiful though.

[Gailh]

In The Meantime, of course. It's a no brainer. I didn't buy(and have no intention of buying Under The Skin). I've only heard the songs on his website. The vocals on the new songs are horrible. I've always thought "Down On Rodeo" is beautiful though.

I agree about the vocals on Under the Skin.

I've heard excerpts of the songs on iTunes and I know that the vocals would drive me mad over a whole album.

I'll have another listen though and maybe buy one or two.

Gail

[GODDESS6]

I'm not a big fan of Christine's solo work. Dont hate it, just doesnt grab me really. Friend is very good though.:nod:

i feel the same way, i love lindsey's new cd!!!:) ~

[Nico]

Lindsey all the way. I don't care for ITM, though I do love Christine. UTS, however, is a masterpiece. It's gorgeous, totally in love with it.

[chiliD]

Well, there's an obvious choice that is conspicuous by its absence: :shrug:

"I like them BOTH; and, don't prefer one over the other".

That would be what I'd vote, IF it was an option. With the choices as is, I abstain from voting because none of the three responses covers my feelings about it.

[DavidMn]

Some very interesting responses so far. It's kinda like White Castle, either you love it or you hate it!:nod:

[Aisling]

i voted for ITM. there are elements of UTS that i like very much, but as a whole, i would only listen to this album if i were in a certain mood. for me ITM is an any time, any where kind of thing. even though i haven't listened to UTS nearly as much as ITM, in the long run, i still think ITM be a more frequently play on my ipod. ;)

[TheWILDheart]

HAHA - I voted "Rubbish. Where is the new Stevie CD?". Christine's solo efforts are always so same-ey they just sound like the rest of her fleetwood mac stuff. Althought I would've loved to have seen some ITM songs on SYW. Lindsey, although different to mac, is off his bloody head. Law and Order was just WTF?, Go Insane was more commercial but overall pretty crap. OOTC was better but still, I didn't like it. I am not a fan of Lindsey solo. The new album, better songs but his voice is ****ed. STEVIE ALL THE WAY!

[jbrownsjr]

i voted ITM vs UTS because i like the initials better... :lol:

[henryscutter]

I voted for the new Stevie CD, not because I think the others are rubbish ( I havent really listened to ITM = I should buy it though if it is still available ) I just really want new Stevie music. I am planning on getting UTS next time I go to Barnes and Noble. I've heard most of it online and even though the vocals take some getting used to I think it is my favorite Lindsey solo besides GOS

[HomerMcvie]

i voted ITM vs UTS because i like the initials better... :lol:

Dork!(.......):lol:

[danax6]

Duh. :cool:

[Miss Vicky]

I think UTS is really boring and bland. I'm trying to like it but can't.

Funny, that's exactly what I thought of ITM...


until I stopped trying and accepted the fact that it's mediocre at best and that repeated listenings aren't going to improve it. ;)

[Peestie]

I still haven't got ITM so I can't vote, but I find it highly unlikely that I would like it more. I always like Lindsey's songs the most on all the Mac albums and his solo albums are great IMO. UTS is joint favourite with OOTC. Law and Order didn't grab me at first, but that was because I bought it with loads of other albums and didn't listen to it on its own, only a song here and there.

So no vote from me.

[SteveMacD]

Funny, that's exactly what I thought of ITM...


until I stopped trying and accepted the fact that it's mediocre at best and that repeated listenings aren't going to improve it. ;)

Something Big...

[jbrownsjr]

Funny, that's exactly what I thought of ITM...


until I stopped trying and accepted the fact that it's mediocre at best and that repeated listenings aren't going to improve it. ;)

exactly at some point you just say, "this does nothing for me" and that's that.... sort of like my last relationship...

[Villavic]

Well i vote for the third, though actually is not my point. I'm a mac fan, not a solo fan, though Stevie is a very good option.

However I never listen a whole solo album, except for Out of the Craddle, it's the best solo album i have listened. I didn't like L&O, Go Insane, Street Angel or Trouble in SL, I mean as whole albums, as I do adore mac albums.

However I wouldn't use the word rubbish, I just say I want new mac albums.. with Christine :cool:

[nichora]

Voted for UTS.

In the Meantime is OK, a couple of nice songs but nothing really imaginative.

UTS is an incredible album - love and can't get enough of UTS, CAD, Not Too Late, Down On Rodeo and SUD. And that's after playing it about 30 times!!:laugh:

I can understand why some don't like the vocals (reverb whiney), but it does work like Lindsey singing in your head. Some songs have vocals coming in slightly from the right, others from the left, as if he's dealing with different subjects in his mind. There is some real creativity going on in this album that doesn't really compare to anything else.

Law and Order is a very quirky album. I bought it ages ago, hated it and sold it. Anyway, I bought it a couple of years later and its great! You can't take it too seriously. Its like a circus performance, loads of experiments slapped into an album. Favs are Trouble, Johnny Stew and I'll tell you now..

Stevie's and Christine's solo work is ok, some good songs but for me sounds a bit bland without edgy Buck production.

[HomerMcvie]

Law and Order is a very quirky album. I bought it ages ago, hated it and sold it. Anyway, I bought it a couple of years later and its great! You can't take it too seriously. Its like a circus performance, loads of experiments slapped into an album. Favs are Trouble, Johnny Stew and I'll tell you now..

Law and Order will always be my favorite LB album. It's quirky as hell, but that's why I like it.:)

[aleuzzi]

Voted for UTS.


Law and Order is a very quirky album. I bought it ages ago, hated it and sold it. Anyway, I bought it a couple of years later and its great! You can't take it too seriously. Its like a circus performance, loads of experiments slapped into an album. Favs are Trouble, Johnny Stew and I'll tell you now.

I agree entirely. What a fun, refreshing record. I'd add "Shadows of the West" and "Bwana" to the list of great songs--or at least ones I listen to aain and again.

But In the Meantme is excellent through and through. Amng all the solo mac albums it's tied with me for the top spot, next to Out of the Cradle.

[johndoe]

That last choice made me puke in my mouth a bit. UTS by default, since I haven't heard ITM.

[henryscutter]

That last choice made me puke in my mouth a bit. UTS by default, since I haven't heard ITM.

Eh, go blow chunks :rolleyes:

[HomerMcvie]

That last choice made me puke in my mouth a bit.

You're alright, in my book!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[michelle2677]

You're alright, in my book!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

and which book is that, exactly?? hmmm??? :p

[HomerMcvie]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

and which book is that, exactly?? hmmm??? :p
The Book of Homer......the only book that matters(among non-Larry Flynt publications!)!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[michelle2677]

The Book of Homer......the only book that matters(among non-Larry Flynt publications!)!
:lol: :lol: :lol:



the ONLY book that matters??....someone's delusional:nod:
and your dang "spam blocker" better not have eaten my email again!!!

[markolas]

I don't think this is really a fair comparison. In the Meantime is pretty non-substantial. Just a fluffy little pop album, which is what CM does. UTS is a piece of brilliance - LB's best work, along with OOTC.

[henryscutter]

Went to Barnes&Noble today to get UTS and it was #41 on their top 100 Bestsellers - Not bad

[jbrownsjr]

You're alright, in my book!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

i'm thinking i kind of like henry too lolololol

[jbrownsjr]

I don't think this is really a fair comparison. In the Meantime is pretty non-substantial. Just a fluffy little pop album, which is what CM does. UTS is a piece of brilliance - LB's best work, along with OOTC.

hey!!! no makin fun of OOTC... it's probably my favorite solo album next to French Kiss.... :woohoo:

[Gailh]

I don't think this is really a fair comparison.

I agree. UTS is (IMO) a piece of self indulgence with apalling vocals and ITM is a well produced intimate album of pop/rock songs for grown ups.

Gail

[Aisling]

pronouncing something unsubstantial would mean you are comparing two of the same. in the case of ITM & UTS, one is an apple and the other is an avacado. the "better" of the two is merely a matter of taste.

christine and lindsey are two very different artists. both of them excel within their own area of expertise. they obviously had personal goals in mind with these solo efforts, and i think they should both be happy with what they produced because each album fulfills that expectation.

it just happens to be that i enjoy ITM more than UTS. that doesn't lessen lindsey's achievement, and i would think the converse might be true for people who prefer UTS.

[macfan 57]

I agree. UTS is (IMO) a piece of self indulgence with apalling vocals and ITM is a well produced intimate album of pop/rock songs for grown ups.

Gail

Tell us how you really feel, Gail.:lol:

By the way, I couldn't have said it better myself.:D

[BlackWidow]

Uts!!!!!!!!

[SortaSavageLike]

Uts!!!!!!!!

Ealray Avagesay Ikelay!

[Musicman408]

I really like the song under the skin, but as a huge Stevie fan, I am hoping for a new solo album since i have never lived to see a release as a fan...

Much Love,
Ethan

[estranged4life]

since that is like comparing cats to dogs....Plus, I dont have a copy of "In the Meantime".

[Hawkeye]

This should include Trouble in Shangri La too. But even with TISL I'd still choose Under the The Skin as the favorite.

[HomerMcvie]

since that is like comparing cats to dogs....Plus, I dont have a copy of "In the Meantime".

What a coincidence. I don't have UTS!:lol:

[Janet]

UTS is far more my preference. I am sorry to say but I haven't stopped listening to it since I got it. I can't. It's in my head. ITM just didn't have that kind of impact for me.

[Gailh]

UTS is far more my preference. I am sorry to say but I haven't stopped listening to it since I got it. I can't. It's in my head. ITM just didn't have that kind of impact for me.

You don't have to be sorry that you like something.

If you like UTS better than ITM then that's fine - it's your preference.

I happen to like ITM better but we're all entitled to our opinion and don't have to apologise for it.

Gail

[HomerMcvie]

You don't have to be sorry that you like something.

If you like UTS better than ITM then that's fine - it's your preference.

I happen to like ITM better but we're all entitled to our opinion and don't have to apologise for it.

Gail

I'm sorry that you felt you had to say that.









:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

[Janet]

I am sorry because I had high hopes for ITM. I love her solo 1984 record so much. I have worn thru copies listening to it so much!

But I was impressed...not like Lindsey's album...which I listen to so much I may start having dreams about it.

[Serrart]

There isn't an option I can vote. I find ITM interesting for the lyrics, built on tenderness and irony but the production was too amateurish. UTS is interesting for the arrangements and some of the lyrics are nicely intimate but in both albums there isn't music I come back to as a necessity.


Romy

[jbrownsjr]

I am sorry because I had high hopes for ITM. I love her solo 1984 record so much. I have worn thru copies listening to it so much!

But I was impressed...not like Lindsey's album...which I listen to so much I may start having dreams about it.

i am going to ban you for having an opinion!! ;)

[jbrownsjr]

There isn't an option I can vote. I find ITM interesting for the lyrics, built on tenderness and irony but the production was too amateurish. UTS is interesting for the arrangements and some of the lyrics are nicely intimate but in both albums there isn't music I come back to as a necessity.


Romy


wow... that was kind of how i feel too... i am getting more used to UTS as i go along... but it's going slow... but it's always a process with me and LB... Law and Order took me forever.....

[foxyluva]

I prefer "Under the Skin"

ITMT is a bore - I like the songs, but I cannot handle the album all in one sitting. UTS is just so much more interesting :shrug:

[Miss Vicky]

I prefer "Under the Skin"

ITMT is a bore - I like the songs, but I cannot handle the album all in one sitting. UTS is just so much more interesting :shrug:

If this were SW, I'd be giving you Karma for that one.

It's not often that we agree on anything music related.

[foxyluva]

If this were SW, I'd be giving you Karma for that one.

It's not often that we agree on anything music related.

Well, you could always go over to SW and give me karma anyway :laugh:

It is rare for us to agree on anything music related, let alone Mac related!!

I actually feel this way about all Christine's solo albums. I like them, just don't love them or find them particularly interesting :shrug:

I actually don't really like Lindsey's "Law & Order" album either, its like his crappy "Mirage" songs trying to be like "Tusk". I do like "Trouble" and "Shadow of the West" however...

[Miss Vicky]

I actually don't really like Lindsey's "Law & Order" album either, its like his crappy "Mirage" songs trying to be like "Tusk". I do like "Trouble" and "Shadow of the West" however...


I love Law and Order, though my favorite Lindsey solo album remains Go Insane. I do agree, however, that his Mirage songs are pretty crappy - "On Diane" in particular. Actually, with a few exceptions, the whole album is pretty crappy.

[foxyluva]

I love Law and Order, though my favorite Lindsey solo album remains Go Insane. I do agree, however, that his Mirage songs are pretty crappy - "On Diane" in particular. Actually, except for a few exceptions, the whole album is pretty crappy.

Oh God yes, "Mirage" is pretty appauling. "Gypsy" And "Straight Back" from Stevie are brilliant, and I love every Christine track (as usual), but Lindsey really lets it down - I mean, I HATE his songs on this album - in my opinion, some of the worst Mac tracks ever...

I have not heard "Go Insane" yet. I have only heard "Law & Order" "Out of the Cradle" and "Under the Skin". I also have the Soundstage DVD, which I love :)

[Miss Vicky]

I have not heard "Go Insane" yet. I have only heard "Law & Order" "Out of the Cradle" and "Under the Skin". I also have the Soundstage DVD, which I love :)


:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Seriously? It's fantastic! Have you at least heard (or seen the videos for) "Slow Dancing" and "Go Insane"? Excellent stuff. So eighties (with its sythesized dance beats), but still so insanely Lindsey.

As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love are "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

[foxyluva]

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Seriously? It's fantastic! Have you at least heard (or seen the videos for) "Slow Dancing" and "Go Insane"? Excellent stuff. So eighties (with its sythesized dance beats), but still so insanely Lindsey.

As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love or "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

I know - now I have completed my Mac Back-Cat I am going to get "Go Insane" - I have heard the title track though, and I absolutely adore it :nod:


As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love are "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

I love "Eyes of the World" live on the SYW tour, but Lindsey's stuff is really, really bad on "Mirage". I have always wondered if he did it on purpose because the band did not want to do another "Tusk" :shrug:

"Wish You Were Here" is my least favourite Chris song on "Mirage" :rolleyes: "Love in Store" and "Only Over You" are my favourites...

[Miss Vicky]

I know - now I have completed my Mac Back-Cat I am going to get "Go Insane" - I have heard the title track though, and I absolutely adore it :nod:

Once you've done that, you need to move on to getting other solo stuff, like Billy and Bekka. 'Cause they rock. :cool:


"Wish You Were Here" is my least favourite Chris song on "Mirage"

There we go disagreeing again.

[foxyluva]

Once you've done that, you need to move on to getting other solo stuff, like Billy and Bekka. 'Cause they rock. :cool:

Well, you will soon see what I think when I listen to those tracks you sent me :D


There we go disagreeing again.

New it had to happen :laugh: Seriously though, the lyrics are so simplistic, it sounds like a 10 year-old wrote them:

"I wish you were here holding me tight
If I had you near it would make it alright"

:rolleyes:

We will forgive Christine, because atleast she didn't write them

[Miss Vicky]

the lyrics are so simplistic, it sounds like a 10 year-old wrote them:

"I wish you were here holding me tight
If I had you near it would make it alright"


Nothing wrong with simple lyrics. At least then there's no doubt as to WTF the songwriter's talking about.

[foxyluva]

Nothing wrong with simple lyrics. At least then there's no doubt as to WTF the songwriter's talking about.

True, but unfortunately the lyrics are too simple - there is such a thing...

Anyway, back to Buckingham - isn't "Someones Gotta Change Your Mind" the greatest song eva!!!

[Miss Vicky]

Anyway, back to Buckingham - isn't "Someones Gotta Change Your Mind" the greatest song eva!!!


That goes without saying!!!!!!!

Also in love with "Cast Away Dreams"

[foxyluva]

That goes without saying!!!!!!!

Also in love with "Cast Away Dreams"

Yes! Thats my second favourite song on the album! Then "Down on Rodeo". In fact, I love them all, but I can take or leave "It Was You" - I love the lyrics, but I don't lilke the composition of the song overall...

[Miss Vicky]

Yes! Thats my second favourite song on the album! Then "Down on Rodeo". In fact, I love them all, but I can take or leave "It Was You" - I love the lyrics, but I don't lilke the composition of the song overall...

Really? I love that one. The only one I can do without is "Flying Down Juniper." That song annoys.

[foxyluva]

Really? I love that one. The only one I can do without is "Flying Down Juniper." That song annoys.

I don't think I listened to "Flying Down Juniper" properly - I was still reeling from SGCYM :D

[Miss Vicky]

I don't think I listened to "Flying Down Juniper" properly - I was still reeling from SGCYM :D

FDJ is like the ugly younger sibling of SGCYM. They're closely related but one's great and the other... isn't.

[foxyluva]

Oh yeah, and just for the record, I would prefer a new Stevie to either of these :D

[Miss Vicky]

Oh yeah, and just for the record, I would prefer a new Stevie to either of these :D

That's 'cause you suck. :p

[Dreamz19]

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Seriously? It's fantastic! Have you at least heard (or seen the videos for) "Slow Dancing" and "Go Insane"? Excellent stuff. So eighties (with its sythesized dance beats), but still so insanely Lindsey.

As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love are "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

It is soooo nice to see someone that likes Empire State. I have seen some label that as FM worse song. But I really really like that song...esp Christine's paino at the end. Mirage is my least fav Rumours line up album but it has grown on me big time. I like every song except for "Oh Diane," Can't go Back," "Book of Love," and "Love in Store." I usually like Chris's songs but I can't stand "Love in Store." And I'm indifferent to "Wish You Were Here."

[jbrownsjr]

the first time i heard empire state... i was like wtf!!!

now i love it... it grew on me....