Bad News: No Best-of Cd

[SpyNote]

From Ask Billboard, September 14:

GREAT BUCKINGHAM

Hi Keith,

I'm really excited about Lindsey Buckingham's new CD, "Under the Skin," set for release on Oct. 3. I also heard that Rhino Records may be issuing a best-of CD for Stevie Nicks on Nov. 7. Can you tell me more about this release?

Thanks,

Daniel Matsumoto


Hello Daniel,

Another Nicks fan, Joe Becker, also wrote in about this supposed Nicks greatest hits set. While the album can be found at Amazon.com –- and you can even pre-order it -– it is not going to be released at this time.

Rhino Records told me that while there had been discussions regarding the album, it is no longer on the release schedule.

Nicks' first greatest hits album, "Timespace – The Best of Stevie Nicks," was released in 1991 and has sold 1.5 million in the U.S., according to Nielsen SoundScan.

Since that 1991 collection, she has issued two solo studio efforts –- 1994's "Street Angel" and 2001's "Trouble In Shangri-La."

[chiliD]

I don't see what is "bad news" about a CD that will be redundant to most people's collection. :shrug: Between Timespace and the Enchanted box, another "Best Of" is just unnecessary. :cool: And, since the box set, she's only released Trouble In Shangri-La.

[BlackWidow]

I guess she got mad at all the complaining...lol.

[BTFLCHLD]

Hmmm...maybe Lindsey's release has lit a fire under her bum and she will issue some new material. :rolleyes:

[SpyNote]

I don't see what is "bad news" about a CD that will be redundant to most people's collection. :shrug: Between Timespace and the Enchanted box, another "Best Of" is just unnecessary. :cool: And, since the box set, she's only released Trouble In Shangri-La.

True. But some Stevie is better than no Stevie at all :)

[RockALittle250]

I'm just mad that Rhino keeps saying they will release it, and then they shelve it...Rhino, either release the damn thing or shelve it permenantly...i knew this was too good to be true. :(

[BTFLCHLD]

I'm just mad that Rhino keeps saying they will release it, and then they shelve it... If that is what they are doing, everyone should send in a complaint.

[SpyNote]

I'm just mad that Rhino keeps saying they will release it, and then they shelve it...Rhino, either release the damn thing or shelve it permenantly...i knew this was too good to be true. :(

It is frustrating that the carrot keeps getting dangled. I knew something was up when Rhino's sister site OnlyHitMusic.com removed the best-of listing a few days ago. Granted, it is only a best-of CD, but I would have been happy with some remastered tracks from her earlier catalog, Nightbird in particular. Oh well. Bring on Lindsey! :woohoo:

[chiliD]

True. But some Stevie is better than no Stevie at all :)

Really? Are you sure about that? :shrug: With new material...I'd agree. But for old & tired retreads yet again....?? Huh, uh.

Rhino, either release the damn thing or shelve it permenantly

That is a more appropriate comment for the Fleetwood Mac catalogue remaster project. Either "Git'er done" or just F-off.

[RockALittle250]

That is a more appropriate comment for the Fleetwood Mac catalogue remaster project. Either "Git'er done" or just F-off.

No, because Rhino keeps saying they will release this Best Of CD and creating excitment for something that is never going to be...so it fits for this situation IMO.

[joe68]

(Another Nicks fan, Joe Becker, also wrote in about this supposed Nicks greatest hits set. While the album can be found at Amazon.com –- and you can even pre-order it -– it is not going to be)

Hey but at least I got my name mentioned!!!!

And, can anyone here tell me this is really a shock! Us Stevie fans have been dealing with this kind of disappointment for 25 years...nothing ever changes!

[Johnny Stew]

So the "news" is that there is no news. Bummer.

I don't see what is "bad news" about a CD that will be redundant to most people's collection. :shrug:Well, being a Rhino release, the potential was there for some of the single edits/mixes to make their debut on CD, much like "Rhiannon," et al., on 'The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac"... so for that reason it's bad news.

[chiliD]

So the "news" is that there is no news. Bummer.

Well, being a Rhino release, the potential was there for some of the single edits/mixes to make their debut on CD, much like "Rhiannon," et al., on 'The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac"... so for that reason it's bad news.

The key word being "potential". I realize that people will just crap their drawers if one slight EQ setting is different than the original release, but c'mon.

It is this whole attitude that KEEPS our beloved Mac members from DOING anything new...after all, why should they go through the pain & sweat of coming up with new material if all they have to do is keep changing the mix of songs they recorded decades ago and releasing them on supposed "Best of" & "Greatest Hits" CD and people will go "homicidal" about acquiring them?

[BTFLCHLD]

Hey but at least I got my name mentioned!!!! You sure did...and you did us all a favor by asking :thumbsup:

[Johnny Stew]

And, can anyone here tell me this is really a shock! Us Stevie fans have been dealing with this kind of disappointment for 25 years...nothing ever changes!True, but I was telling my boyfriend last night that this happens with all artists unfortunately. I follow Tina Turner, and there have been many releases over the years that are scheduled to come out and are then either re-scheduled two and three times or cancelled altogether.
Same happens with Madonna. Same happens with Heart. Same happens with every artist.

It's the nature of the mercurial music business, I'm afraid, and Stevie releases are no exception.

[SpyNote]

It is this whole attitude that KEEPS our beloved Mac members from DOING anything new...after all, why should they go through the pain & sweat of coming up with new material if all they have to do is keep changing the mix of songs they recorded decades ago and releasing them on supposed "Best of" & "Greatest Hits" CD and people will go "homicidal" about acquiring them?

If Mac wants to create new music, there's nothing stopping them from recording a new album. They live in their own world. They probably don't have the slightest clue about how obsessively we discuss such things here. :D

[joe68]

Ok, I dont know how to use the Quote function, very frustrating...but anyway...

Quote:
{True, but I was telling my boyfriend last night that this happens with all artists unfortunately. I follow Tina Turner, and there have been many releases over the years that are scheduled to come out and are then either re-scheduled two and three times or cancelled altogether.
Same happens with Madonna. Same happens with Heart. Same happens with every artist.
It's the nature of the mercurial music business, I'm afraid, and Stevie releases are no exception. }

Yeah, but Stevie has released ONE new album TISL (from 1994 thru 2006) in 12 years and Fleetwood mac ONE album SYW in 15 (from 1991 thru 2006).
I wish I was more of a David Bowie fan. He pushes his crap out every other year or so and he's been doing it for years!!

[BombaySapphire3]

Was going to make a few comments but it appears chiliD has it covered.:lol:

[BlackWidow]

Hmmm...maybe Lindsey's release has lit a fire under her bum and she will issue some new material. :rolleyes:

from your mouth to God's ears...

[BlackWidow]

If Mac wants to create new music, there's nothing stopping them from recording a new album. They live in their own world. They probably don't have the slightest clue about how obsessively we discuss such things here. :D

True Danny!

[Johnny Stew]

It is this whole attitude that KEEPS our beloved Mac members from DOING anything new...after all, why should they go through the pain & sweat of coming up with new material if all they have to do is keep changing the mix of songs they recorded decades ago and releasing them on supposed "Best of" & "Greatest Hits" CD and people will go "homicidal" about acquiring them?Bah. :p We're always loudly clamoring for new songs and overhauled setlists and new DVDs and whatnot. Our attitude doesn't have anything to do with what the band releases or doesn't release.

"Best of" sets are typically a contractual thing... in fact, if I remember correctly (and maybe Daniel can help me out here), I recall Stevie saying that she really didn't want to do 'Timespace,' because she felt it was too soon to be doing a retrospective. But since it was a contractual thing that she couldn't get out of, she decided she'd better make the best of it, by selecting the songs herself, writing the liner notes herself and by recording some new songs.

[BlackWidow]

Bah. :p We're always loudly clamoring for new songs and overhauled setlists and new DVDs and whatnot. Our attitude doesn't have anything to do with what the band releases or doesn't release.

"Best of" sets are typically a contractual thing... in fact, if I remember correctly (and maybe Daniel can help me out here), I recall Stevie saying that she really didn't want to do 'Timespace,' because she felt it was too soon to be doing a retrospective. But since it was a contractual thing that she couldn't get out of, she decided she'd better make the best of it, by selecting the songs herself, writing the liner notes herself and by recording some new songs.

Hope you are right!!!

[BombaySapphire3]

"Best of" sets are typically a contractual thing... in fact, if I remember correctly (and maybe Daniel can help me out here), I recall Stevie saying that she really didn't want to do 'Timespace,' because she felt it was too soon to be doing a retrospective. But since it was a contractual thing that she couldn't get out of, she decided she'd better make the best of it, by selecting the songs herself, writing the liner notes herself and by recording some new songs.

and according to her ..in retrospect the '"new songs" were the worst part of the deal .I believe she said something to the effect that the record execs told her that if she didn't record the Poison and Bon Jovi ditties her 'career would be over' and in her Klonopin induced stupor she apparently bought it since there the duds sit.

[Johnny Stew]

Ok, I dont know how to use the Quote function, very frustrating...but anyway...In the bottom right-hand corner of someone's post, there's a "Quote" button -- all you have to do is click that button and it'll take you to a screen where you can type your response to their quote. :) It's easy once you get the hang of it.

Yeah, but Stevie has released ONE new album TISL (from 1994 thru 2006) in 12 years and Fleetwood mac ONE album SYW in 15 (from 1991 thru 2006).
I wish I was more of a David Bowie fan. He pushes his crap out every other year or so and he's been doing it for years!!Trust me, I know where you're coming from. The utter lack of new studio material from Stevie and the band over the past 16 years has been maddening. In Stevie's situation, I blame most of that on her stubborn insistence on touring after every single release (even compilations and boxed-sets!).

I've often wished I was a Jimmy Buffett fan, as it seems he ****s out a new album every single year.

[DavidMn]

I kind of yawned at this one.

[BlackWidow]

In the bottom right-hand corner of someone's post, there's a "Quote" button -- all you have to do is click that button and it'll take you to a screen where you can type your response to their quote. :) It's easy once you get the hang of it.

Trust me, I know where you're coming from. The utter lack of new studio material from Stevie and the band over the past 16 years has been maddening. In Stevie's situation, I blame most of that on her stubborn insistence on touring after every single release (even compilations and boxed-sets!).

I've often wished I was a Jimmy Buffett fan, as it seems he ****s out a new album every single year.

Were you aware of my message to you on your Birthday Thread???

[Hawkeye]

True. But some Stevie is better than no Stevie at all :)

I dont see it that way at all. If some Stevie is all songs we already have, then thats pretty much no stevie, with a new album cover, and a chance for the record company to make some money off us. So really, to me this is a good thing. I dont feel like getting a pointless release. If there was even one new song scheduled to be on it, then i'd probably change my mind, but there wasnt.

[Johnny Stew]

Were you aware of my message to you on your Birthday Thread???No, but I'll check it out now. :)

In regards to the "Best of"... maybe the fact that it's been pulled is a sign that they're working on something different? I know many of us were hoping for a live CD from the Australian tour.

Quite frankly though... and I see that myself and Daniel are outnumbered on this... but I was looking forward to this release, even if it didn't contain any new songs. There hasn't been a new Stevie Nicks release to purchase in five years, so I definitely would have preferred having this "best of" to the alternative -- which is having diddly-squat.

[joe68]

In the bottom right-hand corner of someone's post, there's a "Quote" button -- all you have to do is click that button and it'll take you to a screen where you can type your response to their quote. :) It's easy once you get the hang of it.

Thank you Johnny Stew!!!! You da man!

[DavidMn]

Thank you Johnny Stew!!!! You da man!Hes a really good guy.:nod:

[Villavic]

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Stevie-Nicks/dp/B000GYJNEO/sr=1-5/qid=1158265511/ref=sr_1_5/103-8067603-6939868?ie=UTF8&s=music

According to Amazon, Best of Stevie Nicks will be released this year. You can even preorder it. Of course no album cover yet.

About what I think of this compilation, I already mentionedin the "dissapointed" thread.

[SpyNote]

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Stevie-Nicks/dp/B000GYJNEO/sr=1-5/qid=1158265511/ref=sr_1_5/103-8067603-6939868?ie=UTF8&s=music

According to Amazon, Best of Stevie Nicks will be released this year. You can even preorder it. Of course no album cover yet.

About what I think of this compilation, I already mentionedin the "dissapointed" thread.

I think something got lost in the translation, Villavic ;)

Rhino Records has cancelled this release, at least for now.

[UnwindedDreams]

this sucks...

[MacMan]

I dont see it that way at all. If some Stevie is all songs we already have, then thats pretty much no stevie, with a new album cover, and a chance for the record company to make some money off us. So really, to me this is a good thing. I dont feel like getting a pointless release. If there was even one new song scheduled to be on it, then i'd probably change my mind, but there wasnt.


I don't think we, the hard core fans, are the ones really targeted by the record company when deciding if and when to put these "Best of" packages out there. Of course that's a little off when a new track(s) is thrown on the disc - then you know they are trying to get your attention. For the most part they are probably trying to attact someone that may not want to buy the whole back catelogue of material just to get the choice cuts from her career.

[sparky]

This was gonna be a waste of time and money anyway.
I wouldn't have bought it.

If anyone wants something cool, here's an idea :

Take your favorite downloads, b-sides, and other rarities, and burn them on a cd. In the order YOU want. Then, with his permission, take a few of Jazzy's unbelievably cool sig creations and make your own cover and insert art. Anyone with photoshop, 30 minutes, and Jazzy's art can probably make something better than the lame assed in house art directors they use at the label. It'll be head and shoulders above anything WB/Reprise/Rhino is gonna crank out. We have access to more rare things than they do anyway.
And you'll have the satisfaction of having made something cool.
We could have a contest.

[estranged4life]

I've often wished I was a Jimmy Buffett fan, as it seems he ****s out a new album every single year.

I've been a Dream Theater fan since 1992, and since that time they have released 13 albums on Warner related labels (7 studio albums, 4 live albums & 2 EP's-Also 5 DVD's), While independently releasing fan-club only CD releases from 1996-2004 as Christmas gifts for the fans.

Not to mention DT releasing 12 discs/2 DVD's "bootleg recordings" (For us diehard fans, Consisting of full length concerts, studio demo/outtakes & covering their favorite albums by classic bands) on their own label ytsejamrecords.com

I sometimes wish FM/LB/SN/etc. could put out material at a similar pace, but each time I hear the skuttlebutt that they may release an album I become very skeptical/cynical.

[Johnny Stew]

If anyone wants something cool, here's an idea :

Take your favorite downloads, b-sides, and other rarities, and burn them on a cd.My issue with the b-sides and 7" & 12" versions that we all have, is that the majority of them are sourced from vinyl (aside from the couple that were included on 'Enchanted'), so there are cracks, pops, hisses and other audio anomalies. I wanted clear, clean digital sources.

Ah well.

[Lee]

They are still showing it available as a pre-order on BarnesandNoble.com. I see no track listing. I don't know where people are getting this info.

Lee :)

[foxyluva]

Maybe Rhino are pushing it back because they want to release it in sync with A new Stevie album that is being recorded :thumbsup:

Im just trying to be positive :laugh:

[Blondie85]

Bad News: No Best-of Cd

I see this as good news.

My issue with the b-sides and 7" & 12" versions that we all have, is that the majority of them are sourced from vinyl (aside from the couple that were included on 'Enchanted'), so there are cracks, pops, hisses and other audio anomalies. I wanted clear, clean digital sources.

Ah well.

I would rather have the cracks, pops, hisses and other audio anomalies of b-sides and demos than yet another version of Stand Back, Talk to me, Dreams, Edge of seventeen, ect....ect.. :shrug:

[Johnny Stew]

Maybe Rhino are pushing it back because they want to release it in sync with A new Stevie album that is being recorded :thumbsup:There are any number of reasons why it may have been cancelled/delayed. Stevie mentioned last year the possibility of her back catalog being remastered and expanded in much the same way as Fleetwood Mac's late-70s albums -- so it's possible that Rhino is working on something like that, and this compilation was going to coincide with those releases.

It's also possible that, if the murmurings about a 2007 Mac tour are true, they decided to hold it off until then -- to strike while the iron is hot.

I was also going to suggest that perhaps it was delayed because Stevie would still like to record something new for it -- but she's had a year to do so since the "best of" was first proposed. Surely, she would've had time to record something since then, if she wanted to.

[Johnny Stew]

I would rather have the cracks, pops, hisses and other audio anomalies of b-sides and demos than yet another version of Stand Back, Talk to me, Dreams, Edge of seventeen, ect....ect.. :shrug:It's nice to have the choice, no?

Fans who aren't interested would have the option to pass, while those who are, would have had the option to buy it.

No releases = no options. :shrug:

[sparky]

My issue with the b-sides and 7" & 12" versions that we all have, is that the majority of them are sourced from vinyl (aside from the couple that were included on 'Enchanted'), so there are cracks, pops, hisses and other audio anomalies. I wanted clear, clean digital sources.

Ah well.

Hm. Okay. That's valid. I don't really care about all that stuff very much. I'm not much of an audiophile when it comes to precise sound quality. And I like the hisses and pops. I miss that about turntables.

[JazmenFlowers]

Take your favorite downloads, b-sides, and other rarities, and burn them on a cd. In the order YOU want. Then, with his permission, take a few of Jazzy's unbelievably cool sig creations and make your own cover and insert art. Anyone with photoshop, 30 minutes, and Jazzy's art can probably make something better than the lame assed in house art directors they use at the label. It'll be head and shoulders above anything WB/Reprise/Rhino is gonna crank out. We have access to more rare things than they do anyway. And you'll have the satisfaction of having made something cool. We could have a contest.
oh Sparky, I never knew you cared...:xoxo:

:lol:

[Serrart]

Ok, no best of. So she will have more time to work on her new solo. :thumbsup:

Romy

[wheart]

Maybe Rhino are pushing it back because they want to release it in sync with A new Stevie album that is being recorded :thumbsup:

Im just trying to be positive :laugh:


Dream On...Silly Dreamer!:laugh: :laugh:

[tlssln]

I don't see what is "bad news" about a CD that will be redundant to most people's collection. :shrug: Between Timespace and the Enchanted box, another "Best Of" is just unnecessary. :cool: And, since the box set, she's only released Trouble In Shangri-La.

I have to agree.

[DestinyRules]

I was pretty skeptical and would remain so until I saw an official track listing and our girl doing press for the new record, so I'm not terribly surprised or disappointed.

Having said that, if the new "best of" CD is a retread of all her older material, what's the point of releasing it unless it's got some stuff that didn't make Enchanted or several Trouble in Shangri-la tracks? Or even some of her Say You Will work and a new song or three?

Let's face reality: Stevie Nicks is now what you'd describe as an oldies act and she will be unless she gets a fire lit under her fanny and records new albums at least once every 18 months or so. Even then, she'd have to get radio play or some intense MySpace promotion for the output to be anything more than just grasping for straws. Tom Petty got a lot of mileage out of MySpace for his Highway Companion CD and the song "Saving Grace."

[UnwindedDreams]

Let's face reality: Stevie Nicks is now what you'd describe as an oldies act and she will be unless she gets a fire lit under her fanny and records new albums at least once every 18 months or so.

She is no where near an oldies act. Give her a break now...let her have her time off...since may of 2005 she's been on the road.we'll get a new cd sometime...im like positive...let's enjoy the new Linds cd and tour...then when that's done you can bitch:laugh:

[RockALittle250]

I was pretty skeptical and would remain so until I saw an official track listing and our girl doing press for the new record, so I'm not terribly surprised or disappointed.

Having said that, if the new "best of" CD is a retread of all her older material, what's the point of releasing it unless it's got some stuff that didn't make Enchanted or several Trouble in Shangri-la tracks? Or even some of her Say You Will work and a new song or three?

Let's face reality: Stevie Nicks is now what you'd describe as an oldies act and she will be unless she gets a fire lit under her fanny and records new albums at least once every 18 months or so. Even then, she'd have to get radio play or some intense MySpace promotion for the output to be anything more than just grasping for straws. Tom Petty got a lot of mileage out of MySpace for his Highway Companion CD and the song "Saving Grace."

If i recall correctly, Tina Turner released a new CD when she was 66 and Stevie is 58, so Stevie isn't throwing in the towel just because she's a little older and decided to take a break. She'll release an album sooner or later, just be patient...

[Street Angel]

If i recall correctly, Tina Turner released a new CD when she was 66 and Stevie is 58

Then again, it's not Tina who is talking about menopause and being an old lady ;)

[sparky]

Then again, it's not Tina who is talking about menopause and being an old lady ;)

Ding ding ding. Alex, give this contestant a gift !

[RockALittle250]

Then again, it's not Tina who is talking about menopause and being an old lady ;)

Oh please, Stevie is always like that...nothing ever changes. ;)

[Johnny Stew]

I can't figure out why so many people equate a "best of" with becoming an oldies act. Aerosmith has tons of "best ofs." So does Blondie. REM has three, I believe. Tina Turner has three and a boxed-set. Springsteen has two and a boxed-set. Even Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers have two "best ofs" and a boxed-set.
It's just standard business. :shrug:

[The Tower]

I can't figure out why so many people equate a "best of" with becoming an oldies act. Aerosmith has tons of "best ofs." So does Blondie. REM has three, I believe. Tina Turner has three and a boxed-set. Springsteen has two and a boxed-set. Even Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers have two "best ofs" and a boxed-set.
It's just standard business. :shrug:

Grow up, grandma- everything you've cited is a dinosaur "greatest-hits-money-grab" blah, blah, blah, blah....

Springsteen's last hurrah was in 1984.

REM's last hurrah was in 1990.

Tom Petty and Tina Turner haven't been in the limelight in a long time.

Blondie's last deal was 1979.

Oy.

[markolas]

Springsteen's last hurrah was in 1984.

REM's last hurrah was in 1990.

Tom Petty and Tina Turner haven't been in the limelight in a long time.

Blondie's last deal was 1979.

Oy.

Most of the people I listen to are all dead. At least these artists are all still alive. :shrug: :laugh:

[markolas]

I can't get all worked up either way about a Best Of. It does make me think, "What, she doesn't even want to release a lame 'greatest hits' package? How dull can she possibly be?" I don't think she'll ever release another album of new material. Like I've said before, I still enjoy her music from time to time, and Bella Donna will always be one of my favorite albums...but I think my fanboy energy is best expended elsewhere.

[DestinyRules]

I can't figure out why so many people equate a "best of" with becoming an oldies act. Aerosmith has tons of "best ofs." So does Blondie. REM has three, I believe. Tina Turner has three and a boxed-set. Springsteen has two and a boxed-set. Even Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers have two "best ofs" and a boxed-set.
It's just standard business. :shrug:

I DON'T equate a "best of" with becoming an oldies act. I'm looking at the fact that Stevie Nicks has released exactly two CDs of brand new mateiral since 1991. That year, she released Timespace. In 1994, she released Street Angel. Four years later, she released Enchanted. Three years later, she released Trouble in Shangri-la. The fact that she's so rarely released a full CD of brand new material makes her an oldies act, not the fact that she has greatest hits and a boxed set.

Aerosmith continued to release new material and somehow stay relevant. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers have released some new material. So has Tom Petty solo. Tina Turner has effectively retired from the music business to live in Europe. REM still records somewhat occasionally. Even Blondie has released a couple of new albums since they came back from their 16 year layoff from being a band.

It's time to face reality. If Stevie WEREN'T an oldies act, she'd have had at least one new song to offer on The Today Show. What does she give us? "Dreams" (yawn), "Landslide" (DOUBLE YAWN) and "Stand Back" (which lacked the sizzle it had in the past. In fact, that was exactly ONE solo song, and even that song is one Fleetwood Mac uses in its tours when she's with them!

[johnny4406]

If they would let me choose the tracklist... whether it be one disc or two.. I can make it interesting, and marketable to the casual fans, and obsessive fans (like us! :) )...

[johnny4406]

This would be my single disc version. All trakcs would be remastered. And when I say "ALTERNATE MIX".. I mean the songs re- mixed just for this compilation, so we DONT get the same EXACT version of the songs we already have. And I didn't include a new Stevie song.. since I doubt Stevie would record a new one. If she would, "Mirror, Mirror" goes... :(


1. EDGE OF SEVENTEEN (UNEDITED)
2. STAND BACK (SINGLE EDIT)
3. STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND
4. CRYING IN THE NIGHT (SINGLE VERSION) - Buckingham Nicks
5. LEATHER AND LACE (SINGLE EDIT)
6. ROOMS ON FIRE (ALTERNATE MIX)
7. HAS ANYONE EVER WRITTEN ANYTHING FOR YOU (LIVE - VH1 Storytellers)
8. I CAN'T WAIT (SINGLE VERSION)
9. THE NIGHTMARE (REMIXED FOR THIS COMPILATION)
10. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST (ALTERNATE MIX)
11. IF YOU EVER DID BELIEVE (RADIO EDIT)
12. PLANETS OF THE UNIVERSE (TRACY YOUNG MIXSHOW - EDIT)
13. TALK TO ME
14. MIRROR, MIRROR
15. IF ANYONE FALLS
16. DREAMS - (SINGLE EDIT) Deep Dish ft. Stevie Nicks
17. MAYBE LOVE (SINGLE REMIX)
18. FALL FROM GRACE
19. EVERY DAY

[johnny4406]

And my two disc version:

DISC ONE - THE SINGLES

1. EDGE OF SEVENTEEN (UNEDITED)
2. STAND BACK (SINGLE EDIT)
3. STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND
4. CRYING IN THE NIGHT (SINGLE VERSION) - Buckingham Nicks
5. LEATHER AND LACE (SINGLE EDIT)
6. ROOMS ON FIRE (ALTERNATE MIX)
7. NIGHTBIRD (EDIT)
8. BLUE DENIM (ALBUM VERSION)
9. IF YOU EVER DID BELIEVE Featuring Sheryl Crow
10. PLANETS OF THE UNIVERSE (TRACY YOUNG MIXSHOW)
11. HAS ANYONE EVER WRITTEN ANYTHING FOR YOU (EDIT)
12. I CAN'T WAIT (SINGLE VERSION)
13. TALK TO ME
14. IF ANYONE FALLS
15. SORCERER Featuring Sheryl Crow
16. DREAMS - (SINGLE EDIT) Deep Dish ft. Stevie Nicks
17. MAYBE LOVE (SINGLE REMIX)
18. EVERY DAY


DISC TWO - THE COLLECTION

1. MY HEART (CONSIDERED THE "NEW SONG")
2. THROWN DOWN (ALTERNATE MIX) (So she can rest in peace!)
3. TWISTED ("TWISTER" OST) Featuring Lindsey Buckingham
4. GOLD DUST WOMAN (LIVE) Featuring Sheryl Crow
5. THE NIGHTMARE (12'' MIX)
6. LOVE CHANGES
7. I MISS YOU
8. THINK ABOUT IT
9. HOW STILL MY LOVE
10. GOLD & BRAID (UNRELEASED STUDIO VERSION)
11. NOTHING EVER CHANGES
12. OUTSIDE THE RAIN
13. IF I WERE YOU (EXT. MIX) (So we can hear the last line which is beautiful!!!!)
14. ROSE GARDEN OR DOING THE BEST THAT I CAN (Live, Piano Performance)
15. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
16. RHIANNON (PIANO DEMO, 1978)
17. I NEED TO KNOW (LIVE 2006) Featuring TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS
18. FALL FROM GRACE
19. FROZEN LOVE - Buckingham Nicks

[Johnny Stew]

Grow up, grandma- everything you've cited is a dinosaur "greatest-hits-money-grab" blah, blah, blah, blah....

Springsteen's last hurrah was in 1984.

REM's last hurrah was in 1990.

Tom Petty and Tina Turner haven't been in the limelight in a long time.

Blondie's last deal was 1979.

Oy.Turn up your Miracle-Ear, Myrtle! ;) Aerosmith, Blondie, Springsteen, REM and Tom Petty are all still recording... the latter four getting some of the best reviews of their careers.
Tina Turner is "semi-retired," but is also working on an album of new material.

If we're going to equate "oldies act" with the last time an artist had a big chart hit, then the aforementioned should all just pack it in and hang out at the retirement home with Eddie Money and Tiffany. :p :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

It's time to face reality. If Stevie WEREN'T an oldies act, she'd have had at least one new song to offer on The Today Show. What does she give us? "Dreams" (yawn), "Landslide" (DOUBLE YAWN) and "Stand Back" (which lacked the sizzle it had in the past. In fact, that was exactly ONE solo song, and even that song is one Fleetwood Mac uses in its tours when she's with them!Stevie was performing on the Today Show to help raise money for Hurricane Katrina victims. Fans are utterly deluded if they expected... or even hoped... she'd do something new or rare. She wasn't there to debut new songs or dust off some obscure b-side, she was there to entertain the workers and volunteers with songs they know. It was meant to be "comfort food" for the ears. Nothing more, nothing less.

[BTFLCHLD]

What's to cry about? The re-release of what we already have?
If Stevie wanted to knocksocks she would release new material.

[DestinyRules]

Stevie was performing on the Today Show to help raise money for Hurricane Katrina victims. Fans are utterly deluded if they expected... or even hoped... she'd do something new or rare. She wasn't there to debut new songs or dust off some obscure b-side, she was there to entertain the workers and volunteers with songs they know. It was meant to be "comfort food" for the ears. Nothing more, nothing less.

And you are absolutely deluded if you think Stevie is anything but an oldies act.

[RockALittle250]

And you are absolutely deluded if you think Stevie is anything but an oldies act.

Are you a real Stevie Nicks fan or are you just pretending to be one?

[AliceLover]

And you are absolutely deluded if you think Stevie is anything but an oldies act.

SO WHAT?!~?!?!??!?!?!

[AliceLover]

And you are absolutely deluded if you think Stevie is anything but an oldies act.

SO WHAT?!~?!?!??!?!?!

Jesus christ!!! You know she isnt recording??? Would you rather have her wither away and die? How can you even call yourself a fan. I still watch the today show performance of Stand Back because it rocks. In 10 years when she is retired you are gunna be going **** why did i BITCH and MOAN so much when she was still somewhat active.

[sparky]

SO WHAT?!~?!?!??!?!?!

How can you even call yourself a fan.

How does calling Stevie an oldies act render one not a fan ?

[SapphireSister]

How does calling Stevie an oldies act render one not a fan ?
I don't have an opinion on that either way...I do however, refuse to admit I'm a die-hard fan of an "oldies act" :laugh: :distress:

[sparky]

I don't have an opinion on that either way...I do however, refuse to admit I'm a die-hard fan of an "oldies act" :laugh: :distress:

:lol:

I don't place particular meaning on the phrase, really.

[Johnny Stew]

And you are absolutely deluded if you think Stevie is anything but an oldies act.I'd only be deluded if I thought it even really mattered.

[SapphireSister]

:lol:

I don't place particular meaning on the phrase, really.
I have a bit of a pet peeve with it. Growing up and to this day my dad only listens to "oldies" radio stations (50's and 60's music) and I can't stand it so it's just wrong for me to tell myself I'm a fan of oldies music. Stevie is far from my definition of oldies but to each is own.

[SapphireSister]

I'd only be deluded if I thought it even really mattered.
Ha! Maybe someone needs to start a new poll, "Do you consider Stevie to be an oldies act?" :lol:

[strandinthewind]

This whole discussion is pointless. La Nicks has been singing as a star since like 1974-75. Of course she must include somne of those hits in her repetoire and she does. Does that make her an odlies act? Not in my opinion. I base this on the Gold Dust Tour where she included Circle Dance and Rock and Roll in the set. Those are not her songs and she never did them before. So, in a tour with no record to support, she sang two different things she never sang before (not to mention SYWBARRS with Don H. ) -- So, the facts suggest that while she has over 30 years of material to chose from, she adds different songs to each tour set and those songs are not her hits and/or even her material.

But, people will call her what they want no matter the facts. So be it.

[sparky]

I have a bit of a pet peeve with it. Growing up and to this day my dad only listens to "oldies" radio stations (50's and 60's music) and I can't stand it so it's just wrong for me to tell myself I'm a fan of oldies music. Stevie is far from my definition of oldies but to each is own.

About a decade ago, I predicted to all of my friends that one day in the next 15-20 years we would all be listening to oldies stations too. Just because no other station would be playing music we liked. And, most of my pals are now listening to "classic rock" stations, as that is where the music they like gets played. And that is oldies by another name. I don't listen to radio much at all (other than NPR) but that's where Stevie/Mac get almost all of their airplay.
Cursed by aging, I suppose.

[SapphireSister]

This whole discussion is pointless. La Nicks has been singing as a star since like 1974-75. Of course she must include somne of those hits in her repetoire and she does. Does that make her an odlies act? Not in my opinion. I base this on the Gold Dust Tour where she included Circle Dance and Rock and Roll in the set. Those are not her songs and she never did them before. So, in a tour with no record to support, she sang two different things she never sang before (not to mention SYWBARRS with Don H. ) -- So, the facts suggest that while she has over 30 years of material to chose from, she adds different songs to each tour set and those songs are not her hits and/or even her material.

But, people will call her what they want no matter the facts. So be it.
Totally off topic but I just watched Silver Springs from The Dance on youtube for old time's sake. That is still one of my favorite performances ever (not to mention how fabulous she sonds)! I'm the futherest thing from a "shipper" but I still wait for the moment when they finally lock eyes and she turns her mic and sings to him "never get away!!". I get chills every time.

[sparky]

This whole discussion is pointless.

I don't think it's pointless.
It's interesting to me to hear what people think and why.

[Johnny Stew]

I have a bit of a pet peeve with it. Growing up and to this day my dad only listens to "oldies" radio stations (50's and 60's music) and I can't stand it so it's just wrong for me to tell myself I'm a fan of oldies music. Stevie is far from my definition of oldies but to each is own.I started getting into Stevie in late 1985/early 1986... by that point, to kids my age (13 at the time), Stevie & Fleetwood Mac were already "oldies acts." That was fine with me though -- I always preferred the "oldies" to the "young hipsters" anyway. I related to their music better, just the way I related better to older people than I did to kids my own age.

[Johnny Stew]

I don't think it's pointless.
It's interesting to me to hear what people think and why.Yeah, I wouldn't say it's pointless.
I would say it is fruitless though.

[SapphireSister]

About a decade ago, I predicted to all of my friends that one day in the next 15-20 years we would all be listening to oldies stations too. Just because no other station would be playing music we liked. And, most of my pals are now listening to "classic rock" stations, as that is where the music they like gets played. And that is oldies by another name. I don't listen to radio much at all (other than NPR) but that's where Stevie/Mac get almost all of their airplay.
Cursed by aging, I suppose.
I still listen to the radio (although now I have XM Satellite) and the majority of time I listen to 80's stations which is the music I grew up on. I guess that would be considered oldies to some people too so my definition of oldies (50's and 60's music) is forever changing.

[sparky]

I guess that would be considered oldies to some people too so my definition of oldies (50's and 60's music) is forever changing.

Ding ding ding !

[SapphireSister]

Ding ding ding !
I'm obsessed with youtube videos right now...God how classic is that SOTM Mirage performance? How come I'll never get to see that Stevie? Guess I was born a few years too late :(
Was SOTM released as a single?

[sparky]

I'm obsessed with youtube videos right now...God how classic is that SOTM Mirage performance? How come I'll never get to see that Stevie? Guess I was born a few years too late :(
Was SOTM released as a single?


It's a good one. She used that stuff all up, though.

I believe it was a single and tanked at like, 70 or something.
Somewhere around here I have a 45 and 12" of it.

[MacMan]

It's a good one. She used that stuff all up, though.

I believe it was a single and tanked at like, 70 or something.
Somewhere around here I have a 45 and 12" of it.

It was a single, and it did kind of tank @ 86... Here's a list of all their Hot 100 entries.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9175/hot100singlesnf8.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hot100singlesnf8.jpg)

[DestinyRules]

Are you a real Stevie Nicks fan or are you just pretending to be one?
I am a real fan. I am also a realist. I also speak my mind whether you like it or not. I'm not some mindless drone who can listen to Stevie sing the phone book half assed and think it's brilliant when it's not.

When Stevie does well, I say so. When she sucks it, I say so. I was downright giddy over her rendition of "Woodstock" because she sang it with more fire under her than she has sung much of anything in a while.

[Johnny Stew]

I am a real fan. I am also a realist. I also speak my mind whether you like it or not. I'm not some mindless drone who can listen to Stevie sing the phone book half assed and think it's brilliant when it's not.

When Stevie does well, I say so. When she sucks it, I say so. I was downright giddy over her rendition of "Woodstock" because she sang it with more fire under her than she has sung much of anything in a while.Music critics were accusing her of sounding "bored" and "listless" on stage as far back as the 'Rumours' and 'Tusk' tours, so I've realized it's all relative.

[sparky]

Music critics were accusing her of sounding "bored" and "listless" on stage as far back as the 'Rumours' and 'Tusk' tours, so I've realized it's all relative.

I saw a bored and/or sick performance on the Tusk tour.

The birth of my cynicism, at the tender age of 14....:( :laugh:

[TheWILDheart]

I'm obsessed with youtube videos right now...God how classic is that SOTM Mirage performance? How come I'll never get to see that Stevie? Guess I was born a few years too late :(
Was SOTM released as a single?

Yes indeed it was but the single version was different. It had this stupid wirey noise all the way through it. Maybe if they had released the original TUSK version we all know and love then it might have charted higher?

[TheWILDheart]

I am a real fan. I am also a realist. I also speak my mind whether you like it or not. I'm not some mindless drone who can listen to Stevie sing the phone book half assed and think it's brilliant when it's not.

When Stevie does well, I say so. When she sucks it, I say so. I was downright giddy over her rendition of "Woodstock" because she sang it with more fire under her than she has sung much of anything in a while.

I agree. Stevie has done her fair share of crap over the years. I can't stand 65% of Rock a Little and her stuff on tango other than Seven Wonders leaves a lot to be desired. I think Paper Doll deserved to get higher than 103 lol. However, I disagree on the oldies part. I'm 16!!! My mate Hannah who got me into Stevie is 16!! I know loads of younger fans. I think as long as Stevie keeps releasing and touring and...basically keeps active, she won't be an oldies act. An oldies act is someone who is no longer around anymore and who are remembered for the "classics". I think in years to come the fans will remember "Trouble in Shangri-La" as much as "Bella Donna" or even "Rumours". Stevie still has a lot left in her and she has moved with the times. So SSSHHHUUUUUDDDDDAAAAAAPPPPP!!!

[Street Angel]

An oldies act is someone who is no longer around anymore and who are remembered for the "classics".

My definition of an oldies act is slightly different. It's someone who's relying on the old hits only and touring endlessly with them - without even making the smallest effort to come up with something new. That's why I personally wouldn't put the Rolling Stones, Tina Turner or Paul McCartney into that category. Of course people go to their concerts to hear the big hits, but at least they always have new material to offer and they tour on the back of that *new* material. I'm sorry to say that Stevie currently isn't in that group. She doesn't have to put out an album every year (no one does that anymore anyway) but she doesn't even introduce ONE new song on her seemingly endless tours which have taken place over the last couple of years in the US.
Hell, even Paul "I'll play Hey Jude yet another time" McCartney took the opportunity at Glastonbury Festival to introduce a new song from his latest album way before it was released to give the audience something else but only the hits and also to test the audience's reaction to the track.

Oh and her US tours are another point - of course she's touring only there with her collection of old material, that's where the big money is. In Europe she'd probably be forced to play in small clubs with a setlist and ticket prices like that. That's why she never shows up here anyway. As much as I love Stevie's music, but these days she seems to be an oldies act indeed - just because she doesn't have to play in front of supermarkets and fairs (unlike other oldies acts) doesn't make it any better. Let's say she's an oldies act deluxe (because of the crowds she admittedly still draws)

Stevie should take a look at someone like Marianne Faithfull. A 60-year-old woman who's gone to hell and back and is not even thinking about looking back musically and personally all the time. She's moving forward - that's artistic integrity in my opinion.

But like I said, this is MY understanding of an oldies act. Playing all the hits in your show is one thing, touring endlessly with them and apparently not even bothering to give the fans something new for the expensive tickets they've paid is another thing. But that's everyone's personal decision. :cool:

[Johnny Stew]

(Stevie) doesn't have to put out an album every year (no one does that anymore anyway) but she doesn't even introduce ONE new song on her seemingly endless tours which have taken place over the last couple of years in the US. You know I love ya, Maik, but that's not entirely accurate.

In the earlier part of 2005, in Vegas, she may not have sung anything new, (though she did perform "If Anyone Falls" and "Beauty And The Beast," which hadn't been done on stage in 14 years, and "How Still My Love," which hadn't been performed in 16 years), but during her summer tour, Stevie performed "So You Wanna Be A Rock & Roll Star" (for the first month of shows), "Rock & Roll" and "Circle Dance"... three songs that she's never performed in concert.
I don't think that's too bad for a somewhat impromptu tour.

You know how I feel about all of this anyway... I wish she'd just retire from the road altogether and concentrate on recording.

[SuzeQuze]

It is frustrating that the carrot keeps getting dangled. I knew something was up when Rhino's sister site OnlyHitMusic.com removed the best-of listing a few days ago. Granted, it is only a best-of CD, but I would have been happy with some remastered tracks from her earlier catalog, Nightbird in particular. Oh well. Bring on Lindsey! :woohoo:

PLUS we would have likely gotten one or two new recordings - like gold to us!

[SuzeQuze]

In the bottom right-hand corner of someone's post, there's a "Quote" button -- all you have to do is click that button and it'll take you to a screen where you can type your response to their quote. :) It's easy once you get the hang of it.

Trust me, I know where you're coming from. The utter lack of new studio material from Stevie and the band over the past 16 years has been maddening. In Stevie's situation, I blame most of that on her stubborn insistence on touring after every single release (even compilations and boxed-sets!).

I've often wished I was a Jimmy Buffett fan, as it seems he ****s out a new album every single year.

Yep, I'm getting tired of being a Stevie fan. :eek: Never thought I'd see the day.

[Johnny Stew]

Yep, I'm getting tired of being a Stevie fan. :eek: Never thought I'd see the day.I'm really not.
I pretty much made my peace with the paucity of material years ago. I became a fan shortly before the "lean years" began, so I'm used to it.

Plus, I still have all of those amazing older songs to listen to... the ones that made me a fan to begin with.
It's kind of like sitting down with a favorite book... I don't need new chapters to keep me interested. I keep re-reading and revisiting it because I find something new to appreciate every time. And it's the same way for me with Stevie's songs.

Mind you, I'm not saying that I don't want new songs from Stevie. I always want new songs from Stevie and could never have too many, and I think if she would stop touring incessantly, she would actually release new music more often.

[SuzeQuze]

I'm really not.
I pretty much made my peace with the paucity of material years ago. I became a fan shortly before the "lean years" began, so I'm used to it.

Plus, I still have all of those amazing older songs to listen to... the ones that made me a fan to begin with.
It's kind of like sitting down with a favorite book... I don't need new chapters to keep me interested. I keep re-reading and revisiting it because I find something new to appreciate every time. And it's the same way for me with Stevie's songs.

Mind you, I'm not saying that I don't want new songs from Stevie. I always want new songs from Stevie and could never have too many, and I think if she would stop touring incessantly, she would actually release new music more often.

Do you ever just put it all away though? Sometimes I have to. I go on sabatical from it all. Then I unearth the music after a few months and it becomes magical again.

[Johnny Stew]

Do you ever just put it all away though?Never.
I might go a while without listening to albums in their entirety, but a day rarely goes by without me listening to at least a handful of Stevie tunes.

Even when I'm on a jag for one artist, and listening to, say, Chris Isaak constantly, I still always play some Stevie, too.

It really is a strange phenomenon... of all the many artists I'm a fan of, Stevie really is the only one whose music I never get sick of or burned out on. For example, a while back I listened to so much freakin' Tom Petty... morning, noon and night... that I completely burned myself out on him for a solid two years.

That's happened with all of my favorites, at one time or another... but, in 20 years of being a fan, it's never happened with Stevie. Go figure.
But I can understand why other fans sometimes have to walk away from Stevie's music for a while.

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
looks like it's just you and me buddy. I mean, hello, have you seen my avatar pic? lol.

we chiffonheads must unite. :nod:

I never tire of Stevie, never put her in any place not in arms' reach and am at peace with the possibility of no new recordings. yeah, I want them like I want $1M, but it is what it is.

[SapphireSister]

^^^
looks like it's just you and me buddy. I mean, hello, have you seen my avatar pic? lol.

we chiffonheads must unite. :nod:

I never tire of Stevie, never put her in any place not in arms' reach and am at peace with the possibility of no new recordings. yeah, I want them like I want $1M, but it is what it is.
Count me in too! Given I've only been a die hard since 2003 so things aren't as old and tired to me as they may be to some people. I even go through periods of a month or two where I purposely don't play any Stevie/FM music because I get bored but then one day out of nowhere she'll creep up on me and I'll have the urge to hear that voice. I hope the day never comes where I'm completely bored and never want to go back. She's kind of like an ex-lover but one you never have to completely break from, you can just keep going back whenever you want but it's not at anyone else's expense.

That being said I'm thrilled she's doing something, anything, even if it is solely touring. If that's what she has to do to keep herself happy and she's still enjoying it, more power to her. Sure I'd LOVE new recordings (since I've become a fan she has yet to put anything new out) but it doesn't seem like that is an option right now so I'll take seeing her live every year for as many years as she's willing to tour.

[strandinthewind]

I don't think it's pointless.
It's interesting to me to hear what people think and why.

Touche' mon cherie Touche'

[sparky]

You handed her a rose two years later at a Mirage tour date, no? I'm guessing you were enchanted for just a little longer.


Of course I did. I was stoned, and 16 years old.
I also saw her in Australia twice this year, 24 years later.
Doesn't mean I was or am clueless to what was going on.
I've known since 1980 I might get a great show or a phoned
in performance. It just goes with the territory.

[The Tower]

You know how I feel about all of this anyway... I wish she'd just retire from the road altogether and concentrate on recording.
I agree with you there.


In the earlier part of 2005, in Vegas, she may not have sung anything new, (though she did perform "If Anyone Falls" and "Beauty And The Beast," which hadn't been done on stage in 14 years, and "How Still My Love," which hadn't been performed in 16 years),
"If Anyone Falls" was okay. "Beauty and the Beast" was fantastic. "How Still My Love" was flat. However, all three of these were nothing to compared to what was alluded to: "The Highwayman", "Talk to Me", etc...

but during her summer tour, Stevie performed "So You Wanna Be A Rock & Roll Star" (for the first month of shows), "Rock & Roll" and "Circle Dance"... three songs that she's never performed in concert.
I don't think that's too bad for a somewhat impromptu tour.
Three covers do zippo for me. I would much rather have three never-before-performed-live songs or brand new ones. Especially considering that the tours did not accompany any new releases or other related materials.

[BlackWidow]

Do you ever just put it all away though? Sometimes I have to. I go on sabatical from it all. Then I unearth the music after a few months and it becomes magical again.

I do. I cannot even listen to Bella Donna, Wild Heart, RAL, OSOTM, SA!
I am too burned out on them. I only listen to Say You Will & TISL....

[markolas]

I listened to a Stevie mix CD in the car the other day. That was the first time I'd listened to her in ages. Part of it is that I'm really getting away from listening to pop/rock music in general. Part of it is that I realized she's not the "artiste" I thought she was when I first discovered her, and that pissed me off. :laugh:

[Villavic]

I understood the new about the release cancelation is reliable, but this is funny.. Amazon still says about Best Of Availability: This title will be released on November 7, 2006. Pre-order now. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com

[SpyNote]

I understood the new about the release cancelation is reliable, but this is funny.. Amazon still says about Best Of Availability: This title will be released on November 7, 2006. Pre-order now. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com

Yeah, they're usually quick to add listings. But not so quick to update it when the info changes.

[SpyNote]

Oops, wrong thread!

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