I Miss Dissention

[strandinthewind]

Sparky and I were chatting about this old thread from last year and how it was around here then.


http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...+deal+breakers

It is still fun, but Lord Child I miss the raunch, which I equate with Diss, though I think I won that poll :laugh:

Anyway - off to felch and then have a snowball while yanking my pork and beans thinking about Diss :wavey:

[markolas]

Yeah, it's a shame he left, but I understand why he got sick of it. I'm mostly over Stevie and the Mac, I just stick around because there a few people whose posts I enjoy reading.

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, it's a shame he left, but I understand why he got sick of it. I'm mostly over Stevie and the Mac, I just stick around because there a few people whose posts I enjoy reading.

Me too!!!!!

Sort of the end of an era :shrug:

[skcin]

Good Lord, as if his head weren't big enough already. :rolleyes: You just know he's here lurking once in a while to stroke his ego. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Well

Towie read hin the riot act for leaving without saying goodbye.

I have to say it was rather rude, but I suppose he did what he thought he had to do.

[sparky]

Well

Towie read hin the riot act for leaving without saying goodbye.

I have to say it was rather rude, but I suppose he did what he thought he had to do.

I never saw or heard about that one.

Yeha, I certainly miss him. He inspired tons of interesting banter, and provided me with hours of entertainment. Being so damned opinionated and smart, his posts riled up many. That generated some epic ****storms, livened things up, and upped the ante on intelligent exchanges. The level and frequency of informed and passionate debate has plummetted. Certainly a bygone era, IMO.

I suspect he went friggin postal or had some heavy personal stuff go down. He stopped answering my emails in June. It's okay. It's a sad but real example of the reality of internet only "friendships" I suppose.

[shackin'up]

Well.

I just miss Carnevaca.

bring him on and Diss will appear again.

[sparky]

Well.

I just miss Carnevaca.

bring him on and Diss will appear again.

I miss Carne too, but he can't come back.

[shackin'up]

I miss Carne too, but he can't come back.

bull. of course he can. he's not dead yet. time should soften bannings. rules. I hate them.

[gldstwmn]

The level and frequency of informed and passionate debate has plummetted. Certainly a bygone era, IMO. .

Thanks, love you too.


I suspect he went friggin postal or had some heavy personal stuff go down. He stopped answering my emails in June. It's okay. It's a sad but real example of the reality of internet only "friendships" I suppose.

I saw him posting on Live Journal the other day. I certainly hope everything is okay with his family.

[ryan8472]

::sigh:: :(

[sparky]

Thanks, love you too.

Sheesh. I didn't point out anyone by name ! That stuff still happens, but it's much rarer and shorter lived. You know I dig you.:xoxo:

I saw him posting on Live Journal the other day. I certainly hope everything is okay with his family.

I stopped checking that ages ago. Thanks for the tip.

[strandinthewind]

I forgot its name - but it was like the gayest thing ever :laugh:

[carrie721]

Sparky and I were chatting about this old thread from last year and how it was around here then.


http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...+deal+breakers

It is still fun, but Lord Child I miss the raunch, which I equate with Diss, though I think I won that poll :laugh:

Anyway - off to felch and then have a snowball while yanking my pork and beans thinking about Diss :wavey:

am i the only person that link doesn't work for?

[ryan8472]

Well Josh still does use his Last.FM thing, so if anyone wants to try and get in touch with him, that could be one way to, aside from his LJ. :nod: :)

[ryan8472]

am i the only person that link doesn't work for?

No, it didnt for me either. I think I know what thread Jason speaks of tho. :nod: :laugh:

[The Tower]

Well

Towie read him the riot act for leaving without saying goodbye.

I have to say it was rather rude, but I suppose he did what he thought he had to do.
Yes, I did and perhaps it was a tad "rude"- which was why I deleted my post. However, he did hurt my feelings by leaving. Which sounds silly in these superficial days of internet forums, texting, etc.- but, I'm not a child of this era at all.

So many of my social circle friends have come and gone, for whatever reason, that his leaving at that particular time really stung. What can you do... :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

Sheesh. I didn't point out anyone by name ! That stuff still happens, but it's much rarer and shorter lived. You know I dig you.:xoxo: . :lol: :wavey: Okay.



I stopped checking that ages ago. Thanks for the tip.
http://dissention-1.livejournal.com/

He's over there talking about Lindsey's new songs without us.:(

[gldstwmn]

Yes, I did and perhaps it was a tad "rude"- which was why I deleted my post. However, he did hurt my feelings by leaving. Which sounds silly in these superficial days of internet forums, texting, etc.- but, I'm not a child of this era at all.

So many of my social circle friends have come and gone, for whatever reason, that his leaving at that particular time really stung. What can you do... :shrug:

I understand. It hurts.

[strandinthewind]

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22396&highlight=dating+deal+breakers

Try that one!!!!!

Though there were many hilarious ones.

I just remember the transformation of Brown Eyes from neocon Hitler Youth to flaming homosexual :eek: Someone here deserves a toaster oven.

Towie - your feelings were valid and somehow I think Josh would have appreciated you venting them in such a way as he rarely held back with others.

[strandinthewind]

. . . http://dissention-1.livejournal.com/

He's over there talking about Lindsey's new songs without us.:(

Well, I am going the fukc over and making a splash. That fukcing hooker needs to hear from me on a few things LOL.

[carrie721]

Someone here deserves a toaster oven.

LOL. :lol: :lol: :lol:

thanks for the fixed link.

[gldstwmn]

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22396&highlight=dating+deal+breakers

Try that one!!!!!

Though there were many hilarious ones.

I just remember the transformation of Brown Eyes from neocon Hitler Youth to flaming homosexual :eek: Someone here deserves a toaster oven.



We had some fun. :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Okay - my splash was nada as I have no clue where to find anything :mad:

[sparky]

Well, I am going the fukc over and making a splash. That fukcing hooker needs to hear from me on a few things LOL.

I can't understand how to navigate that site, and never have.

Hell if I am gonna go track him down. Not like he doesn't have my email address.
I can handle being friend-dumped. It's rare, but I can deal. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

The thought/cyber visual of 25 Ledgies invading his site and making him apoplectic is too irresistible :laugh:

[sparky]

The thought/cyber visual of 25 Ledgies invading his site and making him apoplectic is too irresistible :laugh:

He'd crap his suede pants.

[strandinthewind]

He'd crap his suede pants.

But, now, he'll never get in yours - so call number 87 :cool:

[The Tower]

I just remember the transformation of Brown Eyes from neocon Hitler Youth to flaming homosexual :eek: Someone here deserves a toaster oven.
I sent in my form to The Lavendar Conversion Council and have yet to receive my damn oven. I got some stupid reply that said,

"Anyone who is an uberfan of Judy Garland, Ann Miller, Liza Minnelli and Juney Allison is already, for the most part, 'out'. So any efforts towards a 'conversion' on such a candidate do not qualify for an official toaster oven."

Of course, I appealed the decision...

Towie - your feelings were valid and somehow I think Josh would have appreciated you venting them in such a way as he rarely held back with others.
Ah.... yes, I am a very passionate person. Sometimes too passionate.

I understand. It hurts.
:xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo:

[estranged4life]

that it seems that some Ledgies get burned out and dropoff the radar after a few years.

I also miss ready diss' posts, we had some entertaining PM's for our major dislike for '$$$$ grubbing bootleggers'

Hope all is well in the world of Dissention

[macmar71]

I have been known to stay away for a month or two at a time if there is nothing new on the Mac or LB but when there is stuff going on then I am here regularly. Definitely the Mac/Lindsey fire comes and goes with me. ;)

[skcin]

Yeah, screw Diss! I miss you a-holes that are still HERE but don't post! :cool:

[The Tower]

Yeah, screw Diss! I miss you a-holes that are still HERE but don't post! :cool:
You shouldn't talk about Curtis like that.... ;) :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Bless his "I am scared of fluids" heart :lol: :lol:

[skcin]

You shouldn't talk about Curtis like that.... ;) :wavey:

Yeah, where's my little man-whore been? :distress:

And you should talk! :mad:

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, where's my little man-whore been? :distress:

Hiney - you have to keep a tight grip on the queers :cool:

[skcin]

Hiney - you have to keep a tight grip on the queers :cool:



Oh man, that's just too good. I assume you meant to type "honey?" :lol:

[sparky]

Oh man, that's just too good. I assume you meant to type "honey?" :lol:

Oh Honey, I think he meant Hiney. If only subliminally.:woohoo:

[skcin]

Oh Honey, I think he meant Hiney. If only subliminally.:woohoo:

You, sir, need to keep your comments to yourself and your junk in your lap. :D

[JazmenFlowers]

dissention...Jyqm? :shrug:

ehhh

[BTFLCHLD]

Jyqm? yea jyqm...an interesting read indeed :shrug:

[trackaghost]

Jyqm still reads the board, he just doesn't post anymore, although I wish he would!

[JazmenFlowers]

You shouldn't talk about Curtis like that.... ;) :wavey:
I honestly miss Curtis too.

[BTFLCHLD]

I honestly miss Curtis too. yeah curty...

***steps from the ledge sobbing***

[sparky]

You, sir, need to keep your comments to yourself and your junk in your lap. :D

Hey Missy ! You ain't the boss of my junk !

:laugh:

[markolas]

I think dissention's LJ is friends only. I guess I'm one of the chosen, since I'm on his friends list? :shrug: :laugh:

He posts to it sporadically...we had an exchange just this past weekend regarding Marianne Faithfull and Angelo Badalamenti. He's one of the few Ledgies who has decent taste in music. :thumbsup:

[michelle2677]

so what IS the deal with all these people and why are they not posting?? I always enjoyed all of their posts

and STILL. where the hell is david??

[markolas]

And btw, sparky & tower...

Where the hell have you two been??? :xoxo: :D

[JazmenFlowers]

He's one of the few Ledgies who has decent taste in music. :thumbsup:
really....

[strandinthewind]

Who meeeee make an intentional typo - stop - I won't hear a word of it
:cool:

[The Tower]

And btw, sparky & tower...

Where the hell have you two been??? :xoxo: :D
Hi, Marky!! :xoxo:

While I haven't been posting as much as I used to, it isn't due to any drama here. I have work issues, social issues, and have been feeling extremely lazy and have an overall "bleh" feeling.

Three things that'll knock me outta my funk:

1) The democrats take back congress in November.

2) I lose 50 pounds.

3) I get up the wherewithal/urge/desire to give my house a long overdue Spring cleaning..... OY!!

I am very much in a wistful, Galadriel-diminish-and-go-into-the-West mood as of late. *** yes, I'm a drama queen- whatever ***

:p :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

and STILL. where the hell is david??

Tell me about it! I've sent him emails, and he hasn't answered.:distress:
I sure hope everything's okay with him.:angel:

[The Tower]

I forgot number four-

Stevie, please release a solo album soon!!!!

[markolas]

Hi, Marky!! :xoxo:

While I haven't been posting as much as I used to, it isn't due to any drama here. I have work issues, social issues, and have been feeling extremely lazy and have an overall "bleh" feeling.

Well, I'm glad you're still alive, at least.

I'm counting down the days until the lease for my apartment in the ghetto that I'm never at is up so I can "officially" move in with my boyfriend. We're getting a much bigger place in the next couple of months and I can't wait, as his current place is a bit cramped, plus he's a horrible pack rat.

Oh, and not that anyone cares, but I will be taking formal vows as a Buddhist and joining Nichiren Shu in January or February. I'm pretty excited about that, too.

[markolas]

I forgot number four-

Stevie, please release a solo album soon!!!!

I have given up hope of this ever happening, sadly. I mean, Lindsey is actually releasing one and she's not even writing any songs, if that is any indication.

[gldstwmn]

Three things that'll knock me outta my funk:

1) The democrats take back congress in November.



If that doesn't happen a foresee the onset of the worst depression and sense of hoplessness that I have felt for some time. As it is, I am at the end of my rope with the current state of affairs. Here's hoping.

[sparky]

And btw, sparky & tower...

Where the hell have you two been??? :xoxo: :D

I'm around. I don't post a whole lot, but I'm here.

Since when have you had a bf ?

[BlackWidow]

Sparky and I were chatting about this old thread from last year and how it was around here then.


http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...+deal+breakers

It is still fun, but Lord Child I miss the raunch, which I equate with Diss, though I think I won that poll :laugh:

Anyway - off to felch and then have a snowball while yanking my pork and beans thinking about Diss :wavey:
I think he got too bored.....
He dissed on Stevie too much..all the granny stuff...

[sparky]

I think he got too bored.....
He dissed on Stevie too much..all the granny stuff...

He got bored and disgusted.
And he dissed on Stevie with great wit and brutal honesty. I
never thought it was too much. It was stuff many other people
thought but were afraid to say.

[irishgrl]

That generated some epic ****storms, livened things up, and upped the ante on intelligent exchanges. The level and frequency of informed and passionate debate has plummetted. Certainly a bygone era, IMO.


Jason and I do our best ya know! :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

He got bored and disgusted.
And he dissed on Stevie with great wit and brutal honesty. I
never thought it was too much. It was stuff many other people
thought but were afraid to say.He was funny at first, but then he just started repeating himself. I often liked to tease him that he was as guilty of running his schtick into the ground, as he claimed Stevie was.

[irishgrl]

If that doesn't happen a foresee the onset of the worst depression and sense of hoplessness that I have felt for some time. As it is, I am at the end of my rope with the current state of affairs. Here's hoping.

crossin my fingers with ya :nod:

[strandinthewind]

Hi, Marky!! :xoxo:

While I haven't been posting as much as I used to, it isn't due to any drama here. I have work issues, social issues, and have been feeling extremely lazy and have an overall "bleh" feeling.

Three things that'll knock me outta my funk:

1) The democrats take back congress in November.

2) I lose 50 pounds.

3) I get up the wherewithal/urge/desire to give my house a long overdue Spring cleaning..... OY!!

I am very much in a wistful, Galadriel-diminish-and-go-into-the-West mood as of late. *** yes, I'm a drama queen- whatever ***

:p :laugh:


1. Quit putting the bull****e food in your mouth and get thee to the gym

2. I will be Celeborn and will will rule with favor :xoxo:

[sparky]

2. I will be Celeborn and will will rule with favor :xoxo:

Is Celeborn what happens to Anne Heche when she gets another personality ?

[sparky]

I often liked to tease him that he was as guilty of running his schtick into the ground, as he claimed Stevie was.

He had a particular style, but Stevie had damned near 30 years on him in the schtick grinding category. And anyone who calls someone's big butt a dumptruck can keep on keepin on in my book.:laugh:
That will forever crack me up.

[markolas]

I'm around. I don't post a whole lot, but I'm here.

Yeah, I've seen you online, just not posting.

Since when have you had a bf ?

Since around the end of May. Wasn't really looking for it, but...there it was. :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

Is Celeborn what happens to Anne Heche when she gets another personality ?

PAY ATTENTION oh older one - that is Celestia and she was Xing !!!!!

:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

[markolas]

He got bored and disgusted.
And he dissed on Stevie with great wit and brutal honesty. I
never thought it was too much. It was stuff many other people
thought but were afraid to say.

I agree completely, and I'm one of the people who thought it. :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

He had a particular style, but Stevie had damned near 30 years on him in the schtick grinding category. And anyone who calls someone's big butt a dumptruck can keep on keepin on in my book.:laugh:
That will forever crack me up.Yeah? I always thought that was one of his least clever cracks. I mean, kids say that kind of stuff on the playground. In fact, I think that one's actually cribbed from a "Yo Mamma" joke. :shrug:

Some of the other stuff was a hoot though... like the "mob widow" line. But even that got run into the ground.

[strandinthewind]

Yeah? I always thought that was one of his least clever cracks. I mean, kids say that kind of stuff on the playground. In fact, I think that one's actually cribbed from a "Yo Mamma" joke. :shrug:

Some of the other stuff was a hoot though... like the "mob widow" line. But even that got run into the ground.

He also did much of it to get a rise. But, some of it was pretty funny - at least to me. I mean I can get on La Nicks as well (look at Homie's sig. ling :eek: ) -- but Diss liked it a little too much :nod:

I still miss the ole douchebad though :angel:

[foxyluva]

Everything he did was to piss of the Chiffon Heads, and it worked :laugh: I still have fond memories of the chat Josh, Victoria and myself had over @ the sevenwonders board. Good times, good times...

[Johnny Stew]

Everything he did was to piss of the Chiffon Heads...We should all have such a lofty life-mission! :laugh: ;)

[The Tower]

Yeah? I always thought that was one of his least clever cracks. I mean, kids say that kind of stuff on the playground. In fact, I think that one's actually cribbed from a "Yo Mamma" joke. :shrug:

Some of the other stuff was a hoot though... like the "mob widow" line. But even that got run into the ground.
I don't think you'll ever get it. And, I guess, that's okay- to each their own. As my dad used to say, "Whatever blows yer dress up".

He was/is smart. Everyone of us has a point we "run into the ground"- you are no exception. It must be very easy at this point to take what he had to say and belittle it down to a "Yo Mama" joke.

[amber]

I don't think you'll ever get it. And, I guess, that's okay- to each their own. As my dad used to say, "Whatever blows yer dress up".

He was/is smart. Everyone of us has a point we "run into the ground"- you are no exception. It must be very easy at this point to take what he had to say and belittle it down to a "Yo Mama" joke.

Oy! Fetch! Your post is love!

How was that?

[BombaySapphire3]

I'm a Nicks fan that came on board as a 14 year old during the Rumours era and I won't ever be 'over Stevie' .But I can't really disagree with much that diss had to say about her at all .If i was a newer /younger fan I think I would have jumped ship by now.Really how interesting could a perpetual oldies jukebox act/special guest be?

[strandinthewind]

Well, the thing is Josh seemingly was never really willing to cut her any slack - or at least the same slack he seemingly gave to other members. Josh also seemed to focus on the negative and never really acknowledge the postitive. But, that was his personage and much of his charm in that he was negative in a clever way. He was also so anti everything establishment it was funny because he worked for that very establishment. All those differences made him a great wit and formidable friend.

I mean who here did not have at least a partial love/hate relationship with Josh :wavey:

[skcin]

Oy! Fetch! Your post is love!

How was that?

That's nearly perfect, but you forgot to call someone fug & then post a pic of Anderson Cooper to show everyone what cool actually is. Or Jason Bateman. Or Franz Ferdinand. Or Blondie.


:D

[SuzeQuze]

Well, I'm glad you're still alive, at least.

I'm counting down the days until the lease for my apartment in the ghetto that I'm never at is up so I can "officially" move in with my boyfriend. We're getting a much bigger place in the next couple of months and I can't wait, as his current place is a bit cramped, plus he's a horrible pack rat.

Oh, and not that anyone cares, but I will be taking formal vows as a Buddhist and joining Nichiren Shu in January or February. I'm pretty excited about that, too.

Congratulations. I was thinking of you last night because the current issue of Psych Today has a big article on Buddhist meditation and how good it is for your well-being. It changes people's brains so they have more cortex and can be as effective as antidepressants. It also explains how Buddhists see emotions as separate entities from themselves and thus can let them pass. Also, it mentioned how they view happiness as our right and have a lot of teachings regarding being happy. It was a great article.

If that doesn't happen a foresee the onset of the worst depression and sense of hoplessness that I have felt for some time. As it is, I am at the end of my rope with the current state of affairs. Here's hoping.

I hear that. It will be something like when Dubya took office in '04, perhaps worse though I hope not. However, it's not going to happen!!!

Well, the thing is Josh seemingly was never really willing to cut her any slack - or at least the same slack he seemingly gave to other members. Josh also seemed to focus on the negative and never really acknowledge the postitive. But, that was his personage and much of his charm in that he was negative in a clever way. He was also so anti everything establishment it was funny because he worked for that very establishment. All those differences made him a great wit and formidable friend.

I mean who here did not have at least a partial love/hate relationship with Josh :wavey:

:lol: I mostly <3'd him but man there were moments! :mad: The endless negativity did become grating.

We do all have our issues but some of us cannot handle any mention of our own.

[SortaSavageLike]

I think he just castrated himself and changed his name to Miss Vicky. :rolleyes:

[skcin]

Oh, and not that anyone cares, but I will be taking formal vows as a Buddhist and joining Nichiren Shu in January or February. I'm pretty excited about that, too.


I care, and congratulations. :nod:

Did I tell you guys that I did decide to get tix to see the Dalai Lama speak here next week? Tuesday at 3pm.

[JazmenFlowers]

I care, and congratulations. :nod:
I second that emotion.

hope all goes well.
Did I tell you guys that I did get tix to see the Dalai Lama speak here next week?
really? that's awesome. did you see the episode of "Being Bobby Brown" where he introduces himself to the Dalai Lama? I was so embarassed for him.

[BTFLCHLD]

I second that emotion. hope all goes well. ditto! Congrats Markolas! :woohoo:

[skcin]

I second that emotion.

hope all goes well.

really? that's awesome. did you see the episode of "Being Bobby Brown" where he introduces himself to the Dalai Lama? I was so embarassed for him.

No. I tried to avoid that show at all costs, but a few eps slipped through. Not that one, thank God.

One of the docs I work with is going to an exclusive discussion with him Monday evening (I think it's limited to 200 people.) She's trying to decide on a question to ask. All I could come up with was "What's Richard Gere like? Is he that dreamy in person?" :p JK

[SuzeQuze]

No. I tried to avoid that show at all costs, but a few eps slipped through. Not that one, thank God.

One of the docs I work with is going to an exclusive discussion with him Monday evening (I think it's limited to 200 people.) She's trying to decide on a question to ask. All I could come up with was "What's Richard Gere like? Is he that dreamy in person?" :p JK

Haha. RG actually walked into my friend's frame shop one day and she said he was really gracious and nice.

[cliffdweller]

I mean who here did not have at least a partial love/hate relationship with Josh :wavey:

Mine was more love than hate :xoxo:. He was only speaking his mind with regard to Stevie..he thought she'd become a tired imitation of what she used to be, and that's his opinion and that's fine if he wants to voice it. He employed a cunning, witty rhetorical strategy, and usually backed up his opinions logically and persuasively. I see no error in that, in fact, I appreciate and admire it. He definitely added spice to this place, so yeah, I still miss him too.

[strandinthewind]

Mine was more love than hate :xoxo:. He was only speaking his mind with regard to Stevie..he thought she'd become a tired imitation of what she used to be, and that's his opinion and that's fine if he wants to voice it. He employed a cunning, witty rhetorical strategy, and usually backed up his opinions logically and persuasively. I see no error in that, in fact, I appreciate and admire it. He definitely added spice to this place, so yeah, I still miss him too.

Your another one who hates everything :mad:

you know I am just joking :xoxo:

I agree, he did.

[SuzeQuze]

Mine was more love than hate :xoxo:. He was only speaking his mind with regard to Stevie..he thought she'd become a tired imitation of what she used to be, and that's his opinion and that's fine if he wants to voice it. He employed a cunning, witty rhetorical strategy, and usually backed up his opinions logically and persuasively. I see no error in that, in fact, I appreciate and admire it. He definitely added spice to this place, so yeah, I still miss him too.

Due to his own bias against and disdain for getting older, IMO, which happens to everyone! You just cannot be 35 forever.

[mikeschmike]

You just cannot be 35 forever.

Tell that to Cher.

[mikeschmike]

did you see the episode of "Being Bobby Brown" where he introduces himself to the Dalai Lama? I was so embarassed for him.

I did like that the Dalai Lama knew who Whitney was, though.

[strandinthewind]

Due to his own bias against and disdain for getting older, IMO, which happens to everyone! You just cannot be 35 forever.

PREACH IT SISTAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I will never be convinced that Josh was joking most of the time just to a reaction. If fact, he said or implied as much in several posts - no matter how much truth the actual intent had.

[DavidMn]

He didnt offend me really. Sometimes he could be a bit abrasive, but that was just him. I pm'd him a couple of times and he was very nice.

[sparky]

Well, the thing is Josh seemingly was never really willing to cut her any slack - or at least the same slack he seemingly gave to other members. Josh also seemed to focus on the negative and never really acknowledge the postitive. But, that was his personage and much of his charm in that he was negative in a clever way. He was also so anti everything establishment it was funny because he worked for that very establishment. All those differences made him a great wit and formidable friend.

I don't think he cut her much slack very often, but he did acknowledge the positive enough to justify his disappointment and criticism. That's where I really connected with him on the issue. Frankly, how can one be so annoyed with an artist's perceived shortcomings and less than stellar efforts if one did not at one time think them to be capable of true greatness ?

In my eyes, his criticism was a great balance to the wide eyed fawning, and the pervasive attitude of "Poor Stevie, she has such problems and is so fragile...it's not her fault she wrote a bunch of crappy songs and got fat! And she's not fat ! Don't say that, it'll hurt her feelings !"

Granted, his, (and my) tendency to be coldly analytical and biting while ragging on her is extreme. That doesn't mean there isn't a truth in it, though. The reality of course, is that the real story lies in between the cutting version of things, and the do no wrong fanboy mentality. It's pretty rare that anyone can engage in the topic and understand that, though. I'm not compelled or interested enough lately to ruminate on the topic at length. But I do know that when I have, from the responses I have usually gotten (with some notable exceptions), I might as well be writing in Aramaic. At least Josh always got it.

[strandinthewind]

Oh I know - believe me - I have been accused of blindly supporting her and I think my posts are contrary to that. In fact, I have repeatedly said that while her voice can still do wonders (see Circle Dance, Rock and Roll, B&B, Insider, etc.) - she rarely uses it to do so, perhaps out of an abundance of caution. I also loved the black dress parodies and thought a few cool ones myself. Yet, there are people who see only what they want to see I guess.

[BTFLCHLD]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[sparky]

Oh I know - believe me - I have been accused of blindly supporting her and I think my posts are contrary to that.

I never perceived such a thing.

[The Tower]

Frankly, how can one be so annoyed with an artist's perceived shortcomings and less than stellar efforts if one did not at one time think them to be capable of true greatness ?
That's the one thread that has been continuously woven throughout my Stevie fandom over the last five/ten years- the disappointment. It's excruciating to know that she can achieve greatness, only to see/hear/receive subpar material.

I think the first Las Vegas tour was the ultimate example of this.

GREATNESS: "Beauty and the Beast"

DISAPPOINTMENT: The set list. The bridge of "How Still My Love". The set itself after all the press build-up.

Riding on the Stevie Yo-yo of Disappointment for so many years can really wear one down.

Yes, Brian- I do realize the irony of me going on and on about running points into the ground and then YET AGAIN running my "Stevie is lazy" point into the ground..... :laugh: :angel: :laugh: Sorry, I'll never stop beating that dead horse.

[skcin]

^ Did you just call Stevie a horse?!?! How dare you, sir!

[sparky]

^ Did you just call Stevie a horse?!?! How dare you, sir!

Mare. As in "the old grey mare just ain't...."

:laugh:

At least it beats cow. This is a Dissention thread, after all.

[Johnny Stew]

Yes, Brian- I do realize the irony of me going on and on about running points into the ground and then YET AGAIN running my "Stevie is lazy" point into the ground..... :laugh: :angel: :laugh: Sorry, I'll never stop beating that dead horse.It's ok, Chris. :xoxo:
While I disagree that "lazy" is the right word (if she were "lazy," she'd just sit at home and collect royalty payments), I do feel that she's way too overly cautious for an artist with such a solid fanbase. For whatever reason that may be.
And the endless touring does absolutely nothing for me... I'd much rather get a new album every year or even every other year.

I guess it's just my "might as well make peace with the negative aspects if there's nothing you can do to change them" viewpoint that keeps me from ever getting too disappointed when it comes to Stevie & Fleetwood Mac.

[cliffdweller]

Granted, his, (and my) tendency to be coldly analytical and biting while ragging on her is extreme. That doesn't mean there isn't a truth in it, though. The reality of course, is that the real story lies in between the cutting version of things, and the do no wrong fanboy mentality.

I agree. And the one thing that always kept me a "fan" of Josh's is his great sense of humor. He was hilarious. And he was usually fair too. He might rag on someone for something and then turn around defend them for something else. People mainly remember him for being a critic (which he was) but he was usually fair in his criticism. Yeah, he was hard on Stevie, but it was usually tempered with some really outlandish humor. I enjoyed it and I consider myself a Stevie fan :shrug:.

[amber]

That's nearly perfect, but you forgot to call someone fug & then post a pic of Anderson Cooper to show everyone what cool actually is. Or Jason Bateman. Or Franz Ferdinand. Or Blondie.


:D

:laugh: :laugh:

Totally. I was also thinking that I should talk about millions of celebrities, but I couldn't, since I'm not up on their every bowel movement like he is. I also can't make banners, so there's that. :shrug:

I liked the way he was the only one here who agreed with me pretty much exactly on political and social matters.

Also, the thing is, people miss him because he knew a lot of stuff. About a lot of things. So almost any music, book, politics, TV, whatever someone liked or wanted to talk about, he could talk about it too. I often wondered how he found time for so much TV, movies, books, and politics. But it was a handy quality for the board, because naturally if there is someone here who talks about the same thing you are interested in, there will be more conversations, and he knew about so much stuff that he could talk to lots of different people, many of whom wouldn't have much in common with each other.

His Stevie smack talk didn't bug me after awhile, I just rolled my eyes b/c he always did it, always said the same thing, and always was insulting some celeb anyways. Plus, Stevie is lame sometimes, it is just that I still love her lots anyways.

I never thought he was as funny as everyone else did, though. Not in a bad way, I mean I thought he was kind of funny. Mostly he insulted public figures using interesting phrases (often the same ones over again). I dunno, I just didn't get all the hype with that, though I thought it was mildly amusing. :laugh: But he always did it, so then it was predictable.

Like I said, I miss him most for the conversations he stimulated from other people.

[mikeschmike]

This thread is slowly turning into a eulogy.

[BTFLCHLD]

This thread is slowly turning into a eulogy. You my friend understand why my last post was a smoochie :lol:

[skcin]

: So almost any music, book, politics, TV, whatever someone liked or wanted to talk about, he could talk about it too. I often wondered how he found time for so much TV, movies, books, and politics.

I never thought he was as funny as everyone else did, though. Not in a bad way, I mean I thought he was kind of funny. Mostly he insulted public figures using interesting phrases (often the same ones over again). I dunno, I just didn't get all the hype with that, though I thought it was mildly amusing. :laugh: But he always did it, so then it was predictable.

Like I said, I miss him most for the conversations he stimulated from other people.

His mind won't rest & he don't sleep. :wavey: I never got it either, I would never have the time to watch so much TV & so many movies & listen to all that music. Actually, I refuse to devote so much of my time to all that. But to each his own.

It's painfully obvious that you and I only moderately appreciated his humor. Must be a gay thing. :cool: But didn't he initially claim to be bi? Oy, never mind. There are toile curtains in front of me & I'm becoming disoriented.

This thread is slowly turning into a eulogy.

Well it is. He's dead to us now. DEAD, I say!

I tried to stop it with the big ego post, but nobody ever listens to me. I'm just a silly little straight girl.


Hey. Wait a minute. You're a gay boy. You like fashion & design & you're kind of new here. Are you really..... Never mind. You're way too positive about La Nicks to be him.

[sparky]

I never got it either, I would never have the time to watch so much TV & so many movies & listen to all that music. Actually, I refuse to devote so much of my time to all that. But to each his own.


No kidding. I was thinking about that lately. Well over into a year and a half with no TV. I haven't seen a movie in a theater since...wow, maybe March. Most newly released music doesn't interest me. I am slowly but surely completely withdrawing from the world of popular culture. Every week when I get my EW, I read less and less of it. If Rolling Stone didn't do such interesting journalism, I would drop my subscription. How I was ever such a pop culture junkie, I will never know. I have almost zero interest in any of it anymore. It's good to know what is out there, as every now and then something will come out that I want to investigate. But, it has all mostly become meaningless in my world.

[skcin]

^ No TV at all? :shocked: Well, that's just insane. Freak.

All kidding aside, that's a good thing. I guess. Just too weird for me. But good for you. I think. I feel so dirty.:o

[SuzeQuze]

No kidding. I was thinking about that lately. Well over into a year and a half with no TV. I haven't seen a movie in a theater since...wow, maybe March. Most newly released music doesn't interest me. I am slowly but surely completely withdrawing from the world of popular culture. Every week when I get my EW, I read less and less of it. If Rolling Stone didn't do such interesting journalism, I would drop my subscription. How I was ever such a pop culture junkie, I will never know. I have almost zero interest in any of it anymore. It's good to know what is out there, as every now and then something will come out that I want to investigate. But, it has all mostly become meaningless in my world.

:nod: I feel almost the same way although I still have a few toes in because I watch TV. But where I used to eat up pop culture I'm now like :shrug:. I think that is natural because it is mostly pointed at the 15-25 demographic anyway.

[amber]

No kidding. I was thinking about that lately. Well over into a year and a half with no TV. I haven't seen a movie in a theater since...wow, maybe March. Most newly released music doesn't interest me. I am slowly but surely completely withdrawing from the world of popular culture. Every week when I get my EW, I read less and less of it. If Rolling Stone didn't do such interesting journalism, I would drop my subscription. How I was ever such a pop culture junkie, I will never know. I have almost zero interest in any of it anymore. It's good to know what is out there, as every now and then something will come out that I want to investigate. But, it has all mostly become meaningless in my world.

I'm becoming the same, to a lesser degree. I used to care all about movies and movie stars, now not as much. I don't even really see movies hardly at all. I watch a few TV shows. A good proportion of which are South Park.

It's painfully obvious that you and I only moderately appreciated his humor. Must be a gay thing. But didn't he initially claim to be bi? Oy, never mind. There are toile curtains in front of me & I'm becoming disoriented.
Yeah, isn't that weird? We're like, the only 2 people. :confused: There's some others, I guess. A few. The few. The proud. Oy!

[Johnny Stew]

My uncle used to call me "John Tesh" because he said I always knew every little thing that was going on in the entertainment world, but my interest in all things pop culture has waned considerably over the past several years.
I'm guessing my priorities have changed since old-age has set in. ;)

[SuzeQuze]

This reminds me that I did watch the Video Music Awards and was struck by the fact that they were dominated by bands. Bands writing their music, playing their instruments, and singing their songs are having a resurgence!

[mikeschmike]

Hey. Wait a minute. You're a gay boy. You like fashion & design & you're kind of new here. Are you really..... Never mind. You're way too positive about La Nicks to be him.

Although we shared a love/mild obsession of Blondie and all things Debbie Harry, I am not him. As far as Stevie and I are concerned...I try to stay positive but I have my days. I wouldn't go as far to say that she is lazy, but I think she is too used to playing it safe that she doesn't realize how spectacular it is when she tries something new.

[BTFLCHLD]

I hardly ever watched tv but then my x and I split and ,with time on my hands, I became hooked on a few shows...now I am a :swinger: and finding less and less time for tv but for those few I am home to enjoy...

make sense? no. ;)

[strandinthewind]

Its usually AMC, TCM, or Law and Order for me. Everything in prime time pretty much sucks a$$.

[Johnny Stew]

I guess I should mention that I am addicted to HGTV. :o

Eliud (jokingly) called me a "fag" on the Stevie Forum for crying during "Beauty And The Beast"... wait until he finds out about this! :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I guess I should mention that I am addicted to HGTV. :o

Eliud (jokingly) called me a "fag" on the Stevie Forum for crying during "Beauty And The Beast"... wait until he finds out about this! :laugh:

YOU ARE SUCH A FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:angel:

[BlackWidow]

I guess I should mention that I am addicted to HGTV. :o

Eliud (jokingly) called me a "fag" on the Stevie Forum for crying during "Beauty And The Beast"... wait until he finds out about this! :laugh:

Did you watch Design Star??

[Johnny Stew]

Did you watch Design Star??Not every episode, but I did watch when I could. :o

[BlackWidow]

Not every episode, but I did watch when I could. :o

What did you think of David who won...?

[JazmenFlowers]

Did you watch Design Star??
loved it! I was so happy David won.

[BlackWidow]

loved it! I was so happy David won.
me too..easy on the eyes....:rolleyes:

[Johnny Stew]

What did you think of David who won...?He was buff and half-naked all the time... what's not to love? ;)

Seriously though, I liked his designs. I'm glad he won.

[BlackWidow]

He was buff and half-naked all the time... what's not to love? ;)

Seriously though, I liked his designs. I'm glad he won.

hunky and talented..like me.:D

[sparky]

^ No TV at all? :shocked: Well, that's just insane. Freak.

All kidding aside, that's a good thing. I guess. Just too weird for me. But good for you. I think. I feel so dirty.:o

I have no idea how I ever managed to take the time to watch television. Now that I don't I feel I really gave up a lot of things that are ultimately far more important to me. The end result was unneccesary distraction and some unintended isolation. Which some people can really use. Not me, I guess.
But now I get a ton of books read, which I feel enriches my life to a degree I can scarcely describe. Also, my friends and I have become much closer. The real close ones I now see at least once a week. And I get to enjoy my neighborhood - walking to the store, biking around, etc. I missed so much - in terms of just enjoying where I live. It's become a big priority to me. There are friends who talk TV a lot, and I basically tune out or leave the room. I'm really more interested in the real people in my life.:laugh:

He was buff and half-naked all the time... what's not to love?

Seriously though, I liked his designs. I'm glad he won.

That is funny. I've now officially turned down being on 3 of those reality design shows. I am so f*cking glad I never said yes. They never pay much anyway. Though the book deals you can get can be lucrative. Wouldn't be worth being talked about on a website or being recognized at the store. No amount of money, man. No amount of money.

[BlackWidow]

I have no idea how I ever managed to take the time to watch television. Now that I don't I feel I really gave up a lot of things that are ultimately far more important to me. The end result was unneccesary distraction and some unintended isolation. Which some people can really use. Not me, I guess.
But now I get a ton of books read, which I feel enriches my life to a degree I can scarcely describe. Also, my friends and I have become much closer. The real close ones I now see at least once a week. And I get to enjoy my neighborhood - walking to the store, biking around, etc. I missed so much - in terms of just enjoying where I live. It's become a big priority to me. There are friends who talk TV a lot, and I basically tune out or leave the room. I'm really more interested in the real people in my life.:laugh:



That is funny. I've now officially turned down being on 3 of those reality design shows. I am so f*cking glad I never said yes. They never pay much anyway. Though the book deals you can get can be lucrative. Wouldn't be worth being talked about on a website or being recognized at the store. No amount of money, man. No amount of money.

Sparky:
Are you a designer??

[sparky]

Sparky:
Are you a designer??

I do sets for Film and Television.

[BlackWidow]

I do sets for Film and Television.

Cool. I had no idea.
I hope you know I was having fun with you on the "Sparky" Thread..
I thought mabe you got scared...lol.;)

[GypsySorcerer]

loved it! I was so happy David won.

I loved Design Star -- completely addicted. David was by far the best. Everyone else looked amateurish compared to him.

[sparky]

Cool. I had no idea.
I hope you know I was having fun with you on the "Sparky" Thread..
I thought mabe you got scared...lol.;)


I don't scare too easily.
I've been stalked online before and know
the real deal when I see it. LOL.

[BlackWidow]

I don't scare too easily.
I've been stalked online before and know
the real deal when I see it. LOL.

It was all in fun...:lol:

[sparky]

It was all in fun...:lol:

Oh, I got that.

[carrie721]

I don't scare too easily.
I've been stalked online before and know
the real deal when I see it. LOL.

you said you'd never bring that up again! :mad:

[BlackWidow]

you said you'd never bring that up again! :mad:

STALKER!!!:eek:

[GypsySorcerer]

you said you'd never bring that up again! :mad:

I know! Sparky's got a legion of armpit stalkers.

[BlackWidow]

I know! Sparky's got a legion of armpit stalkers.

ok..What is up with the Sparky & Johnny Stew Armpit Convention?????:laugh:

[sparky]

I know! Sparky's got a legion of armpit stalkers.


You have no IDEA.
:laugh:

[BlackWidow]

You have no IDEA.
:laugh:

I don't like the musk thing..guys like my pits....I like soap & water smell.

[sparky]

I don't like the musk thing..guys like my pits....I like soap & water smell.

Takes all kinds. Soapy doesn't turn my crank.
Fragrance is for girls.
I like how guys smell without it. Me and Stewie.:lol:

[BlackWidow]

Takes all kinds. Soapy doesn't turn my crank.
Fragrance is for girls.
I like how guys smell without it. Me and Stewie.:lol:

I did not say Fragrance..I said clean!
B.O. is gross...:shrug:

[irishgrl]

You my friend understand why my last post was a smoochie :lol:

silly me, I thot it wuz yer YouTube siggy clip (beeeYOUteeeful by the way!)

[markolas]

Congratulations. I was thinking of you last night because the current issue of Psych Today has a big article on Buddhist meditation and how good it is for your well-being. It changes people's brains so they have more cortex and can be as effective as antidepressants. It also explains how Buddhists see emotions as separate entities from themselves and thus can let them pass. Also, it mentioned how they view happiness as our right and have a lot of teachings regarding being happy. It was a great article.

Cool. And thanks. :D

I care, and congratulations. :nod:

Did I tell you guys that I did decide to get tix to see the Dalai Lama speak here next week? Tuesday at 3pm.

One of the docs I work with is going to an exclusive discussion with him Monday evening (I think it's limited to 200 people.) She's trying to decide on a question to ask. All I could come up with was "What's Richard Gere like? Is he that dreamy in person?" :p JK

What did she do to get to do that? I feel compelled to point out that I neither practice, nor know a whole lot about, Tibetan Buddhism, so the Dalai Lama stuff is mostly lost on me.


I second that emotion.

hope all goes well.

ditto! Congrats Markolas! :woohoo:

Thanks, you guys. :)

[sparky]

I did not say Fragrance..I said clean!

Okay, very faint soap residue is acceptable. Very faint.

B.O. is gross...:shrug:

Fine line between B.O. and sweat. I consider B.O. like day old stale sweat.
Which I still prefer to any cologne.
But that fresh from the gym sweat ?
Mmm...come to Sparky.:laugh:

[irishgrl]

Okay, very faint soap residue is acceptable. Very faint.



Fine line between B.O. and sweat. I consider B.O. like day old stale sweat.
Which I still prefer to any cologne.
But that fresh from the gym sweat ?
Mmm...come to Sparky.:laugh:

um I think there is a difference between the SMELL of soap and the RESIDUE of soap. most people would agree, residue is nasty because the taste of soap is bitter, and there is a slick feel and a tendency for fuzzy buildup from clothes to accumulate). the smell (or fragrance--and its not just for girls silly) is OK.

by the way, B.O. is SOUR sweat whereas just plain sweat smells salty-ish or pheromone-ish.

[carrie721]

^^our resident sweatologist?

[irishgrl]

^^our resident sweatologist?
nah, just obsessive-compulsive analyst! oh and um commentator on the real world~~ :nod:

be glad I didnt go into the descriptions of OTHER bodily smells!

[BTFLCHLD]

just plain sweat smells salty-ish or pheromone-ish. Now we know just what turns sparkster and stewby on!!!! :]
A true stalker would give them their lindsey tour shirt.
There is your bright-idea widow. ;)
Rather...bet you'd give them your shorts!

[irishgrl]

Now we know just what turns sparkster and stewby on!!!! :]
A true stalker would give them their lindsey tour shirt.
There is your bright-idea widow. ;)
Rather...bet you'd give them your shorts!


alas, I cant give them the shirt off my back, I need it for now. and I dont have any Liddybuck or Stevie momentos (being sadly penniless and unable to afford concerts) They will just have to MAKE DO. like the REST of US.

[strandinthewind]

I don't scare too easily.
I've been stalked online before and know
the real deal when I see it. LOL.

I scared you when I sang - rather BELTED - on the Vegas strip - - - not to mention you may have feared for my life when I tried to leave but could not find the door :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

I did not say Fragrance..I said clean!
B.O. is gross...:shrug:

No shiitte - and please take a weed wacker to your chest, bush, and pits. OY VEY some people!!!!!

AND - if it applies to you - WAX YOUR MOTHER FUKCING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Johnny Stew]

I did not say Fragrance..I said clean!
B.O. is gross...:shrug:Body odor is gross... just to be clear, it's not odor that turns me on, it's that natural, un-perfumed scent of a man that revs my motor.

[BTFLCHLD]

like the REST of US. you think they won't find a way? :lol: hell strand would walk a street!

[strandinthewind]

. . . hell strand would walk a street!

You think you jest!!!!!!!! :angel:

[BTFLCHLD]

You think you jest!!!!!!!! :angel: No actually...I am onto you sweetcheeks.

[strandinthewind]

No actually...I am onto you sweetcheeks.

Actually, though we can be terrific drinking buddies, I do not think Sparky and I are compatabile in any other way, which is sad because we would drink, laugh, screw, and dance our way through life!!!!!!

[markolas]

Actually, though we can be terrific drinking buddies, I do not think Sparky and I are compatabile in any other way, which is sad because we would drink, laugh, screw, and dance our way through life!!!!!!


I'm beginning to think I'm not compatible with anyone in any way.

[irishgrl]

Actually, though we can be terrific drinking buddies, I do not think Sparky and I are compatabile in any other way, which is sad because we would drink, laugh, screw, and dance our way through life!!!!!!

personally, I see you drinking/laughing/singing/dancing your way with EVERYONE. :nod: the "screwing" part? thats where you get picky...

[irishgrl]

I'm beginning to think I'm not compatible with anyone in any way.

I love ya babe :nod:

[BTFLCHLD]

I do not think Sparky and I are compatabile You would be correct.
Now go put stevie on and cry. :lol:

[BTFLCHLD]

I'm beginning to think I'm not compatible with anyone in any way. What? weren't you excited about moving in with your BF? (((((markolas)))))

[markolas]

What? weren't you excited about moving in with your BF? (((((markolas)))))

Eh, I think it was a front. :laugh: I'm not so sure it's that great an idea now, I just hate that I'm always the one who has to be the asshole (i.e., the dumper) in these situations. :distress:

[markolas]

I love ya babe :nod:

Aww, thanks. :)

[strandinthewind]

Eh, I think it was a front. :laugh: I'm not so sure it's that great an idea now, I just hate that I'm always the one who has to be the asshole (i.e., the dumper) in these situations. :distress:

Don't be such a Debbie Downer - take the plunge. Just make sure the lease is in your name and you can afford it on your own :nod:

Seriously, I met the love of my life 80 pounds heavier than I am now, drunk, and bitching at one of the best photographers in the South because I just KNEW I was being photographed incorrectly LOL. So, it can happen!!!

[strandinthewind]

You would be correct.
Now go put stevie on and cry. :lol:

Oh honey --- I ain't cryin over no Sparky.

He kick the ****te oughta me for that.

Also, please remember I, not you, have hugged and kissed him! So, at least I know what I'm missing :D ;) :wavey:

[BTFLCHLD]

Eh, I think it was a front. o.m.gosh... who was fronting who! You are dumping him? What the heck happened in the last whatever hours!

[strandinthewind]

o.m.gosh... who was fronting who! You are dumping him? What the heck happened in the last whatever hours!

I know - and I thought my life was a roller coaster :eek:

[BTFLCHLD]

So, at least I know what I'm missing :lol: He thinks I am hot for his armpits. So what that I had it cropped special for your viewing pleasures. My goodness he is the one that exposed it ever so proudly in that showershot scene! I ask you, who's the perv!???

[irishgrl]

I know - and I thought my life was a roller coaster :eek:

its too hard to keep up with you bitches. :nod:

[markolas]

Don't be such a Debbie Downer - take the plunge. Just make sure the lease is in your name and you can afford it on your own :nod:

Are you kidding me? The only place I can afford on my own is surrounded by drug dealers and prostitutes. But that's another story. :laugh:

Seriously, I met the love of my life 80 pounds heavier than I am now, drunk, and bitching at one of the best photographers in the South because I just KNEW I was being photographed incorrectly LOL. So, it can happen!!!

I need to make some outside friends in a really bad way, since I recently had to dump the few that I had (and the one I didn't dump moved to NYC). That might take some of the pressure off. This whole relationship thing happened at a time when I thought I was going to focus on making some new (different) friends and concentrate on rekindling my artistic spark and developing my spirituality, but that (especially the spirituality part) seems like it's being forced into the closet, or onto the back burner, or something. I'm not liking it.

Like I said, maybe I just need some outside friends/interests. :shrug:

[BTFLCHLD]

I met the love of my life 80 pounds heavier than I am now, drunk, and bitching at one of the best photographers in the South wow...they were taking photographs of you 80# heavier? That's puzzling. ;)

Do you have a before and after body shot?

[markolas]

o.m.gosh... who was fronting who! You are dumping him? What the heck happened in the last whatever hours!

A front, as in a facade.

And I don't know what I'm doing.

[strandinthewind]

wow...they were taking photographs of you 80# heavier? That's puzzling. ;)

Do you have a before and after body shot?

It was for a local bar and I knew the owner. They paid me $$ to sit at a bar and drink free drinks and act like I was having fun while talking to a shirtless body builder -- and I had the nerve to bitch :laugh:

July of last year

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/DSC02528.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/DSC02507.jpg

and, again, now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/me.jpg

[BTFLCHLD]

I just need some outside friends I will be your friend markolas! ;)

Seriously, if something inside you feels it isn't right...perhaps you should listen. It does sound like you are struggling with this.

[BTFLCHLD]

It was for a local bar and I knew the owner. They paid me $$ to sit at a bar and drink free drinks and act like I was having fun while talking to a shirtless body builder -- and I had the nerve to bitch :laugh: OMG what would you do for say... 50 bucks. :lol: Let me guess...the owner went bankrupt soon after that ad. :shocked:

[irishgrl]

and Im your friend if you want me, no matter what :nod:

[strandinthewind]

OMG what would you do for say... 50 bucks. :lol: Let me guess...the owner went bankrupt soon after that ad. :shocked:

I wouldn't get out of bed for $50 --- I mean --- errrr -- IIIIII :p

[GardenStateGirlie]

It was for a local bar and I knew the owner. They paid me $$ to sit at a bar and drink free drinks and act like I was having fun while talking to a shirtless body builder -- and I had the nerve to bitch :laugh:

July of last year

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/DSC02528.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/DSC02507.jpg

and, again, now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/me.jpg

you're a bigger camera whore than me ;]

[markolas]

you're a bigger camera whore than me ;]

He doesn't look like he had 80 lbs to lose. :shrug: And why don't you have an enormous layer of fat around your face in the before pics? That's the most hideous part of gaining weight, for me. But if I lost 80 lbs, I'd look like an apple on a stick.

[markolas]

and Im your friend if you want me, no matter what :nod:

I will be your friend markolas! ;)

Seriously, if something inside you feels it isn't right...perhaps you should listen. It does sound like you are struggling with this.

Thank you both! Aww! :D

[BTFLCHLD]

and, again, now http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/me.jpg we want bodyshots...damit :blob1:

;) sillys

can definitely tell from your facial...
you are just about to get a facial there aren't you?
was that sparky the photog that's caught your eye?

[BTFLCHLD]

Thank you both! Aww! :D You're welcome. You must know I like you. :xoxo:

[sparky]

Actually, though we can be terrific drinking buddies, I do not think Sparky and I are compatabile in any other way, which is sad because we would drink, laugh, screw, and dance our way through life!!!!!!

It's true. :distress:

It's all good, though. Friends last longer.
:xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

He doesn't look like he had 80 lbs to lose. :shrug: And why don't you have an enormous layer of fat around your face in the before pics? That's the most hideous part of gaining weight, for me. But if I lost 80 lbs, I'd look like an apple on a stick.

I went from a 38 - 40 inch waist to a 32 - 33 inch one.

It def. shows overall.,

And - all I can see is my face fat in the before pics. But, we are all our hardest critics I guess!!!

[amber]

That's the most hideous part of gaining weight, for me. But if I lost 80 lbs, I'd look like an apple on a stick.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I feel your pain. I'm quite the balloon head. And congrats on your thingy. :)

[sparky]

:lol: He thinks I am hot for his armpits. So what that I had it cropped special for your viewing pleasures. My goodness he is the one that exposed it ever so proudly in that showershot scene! I ask you, who's the perv!???

You CROPPED my pit ?
WHERE ?

:laugh: :lol: :laugh:

I love that. I mean, people gave ME grief for having it as my
avatar shot on seven wonders. That picture was so not about
my armpits, but it sure got attention because of them. Go figure.
Lord Have Mercy.

[BTFLCHLD]

And - all I can see is my face fat in the before pics. well...there really was a before before the before shot, right? You were superslim in that poolshot. Great job in losing all the weight. :thumbsup:

[strandinthewind]

well...there really was a before before the before shot, right? You were superslim in that poolshot. Great job in losing all the weight. :thumsbup:

That pool shot was my day in the sun as I had an eight pack then :laugh:

[BTFLCHLD]

You CROPPED my pit ?
WHERE ?
Lord Have Mercy. well, there was discussion of your pit in a buried thread. So, yes, by popular demand, I cropped your pic. In fact, you were present but left quickly thereafter. hmmm...imagine! ;) I sell a poster-size on ebay.

utuh amber is here...do not discuss her armpits.:lol:

[BTFLCHLD]

considering the turn-out of pillowcases...boost the profits :thumbsup:


run sparky run :lol:

[greatdarkwing]

Jason, you look great!!! Losing all that weight feels good, huh?

~Alex

[strandinthewind]

Jason, you look great!!! Losing all that weight feels good, huh?

~Alex

It sure as hell does as you know.

I mean even my shoes are loose :laugh:

[greatdarkwing]

It sure as hell does as you know.

I mean even my shoes are loose :laugh:

Watch, now when your 33's get even a little tight, you will panic like I do...The thought of having to buy even more clothes throws me into a panic:laugh:

...The worst part is having to replace your WHOLE WARDROBE b/c as you know that is what you have to do...and its a process, from 38 waist, you buy 36, 34, 33, 32...and that sh*t is expensive!!!!! PLUS I only shop at Abercrombie, Macys, and Hollister, so I was totally f***ed!!

[greatdarkwing]

...And Atlanta's most wanted lawyer has to dress into style! DUH! LMAO!!!

[BTFLCHLD]

I mean even my shoes are loose :laugh: Which brings us to the question many are dying to know...what's your er shoe size?

[sparky]

well, there was discussion of your pit in a buried thread. So, yes, by popular demand, I cropped your pic. In fact, you were present but left quickly thereafter. hmmm...imagine! ;) I sell a poster-size on ebay.

utuh amber is here...do not discuss her armpits.:lol:


I don't know how I missed that.


Don't know much about the AMber pits. Is she sensitive about them ?

[strandinthewind]

Which brings us to the question many are dying to know...what's your er shoe size?

It depends on the maker of the shoe and the type of the shoe - it can go from a 10 1/2 to a 12.

[strandinthewind]

...And Atlanta's most wanted lawyer has to dress into style! DUH! LMAO!!!

Well, I do love my clothes. Lately though, i have toned down the spending to pay off last Winter LOL.

Actually, I am getting ready to give away about 1/2 of my winter stuff as most of it looks like a tent on me. AND - it KILLS me to part with all that cashmere knowing I cannot replace it :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

Body odor is gross... just to be clear, it's not odor that turns me on, it's that natural, un-perfumed scent of a man that revs my motor.

This I can get on board with. Yum. But I do like a good cologne also.

[skcin]

Markolas - I've no clue how she got invited to the private Dalai Lama thing. :shrug: Not sure if she had to put her name on a list or if it was totally random.

Krista, Stew, etc. - you guys all suck for watching Design Star but never responding to my thread about it! I had NO ONE to talk to about it the whole time. Hookers. :mad: Oh, and I really didn't care if David or Alice won since they're both good, but his final room was the best.

[BTFLCHLD]

I don't know how I missed that. Back by popular demand...who knew my inbox could hold that many PMs?

http://i10.tinypic.com/2uh5lkg.jpg

[hayley]

AND - it KILLS me to part with all that cashmere knowing I cannot replace it :laugh:

Hi, do you want my address so you can send me all your cashmere? Says the $$$ poor knitter who loves to recycle sweaters. . .

Congratulations on your weight loss. My boyfriend has been losing a huge amount of weight and he's just wearing the baggy pants for now and getting to the point where he's punching new holes in his belts... it makes me shudder, but it's necessary.

[BlackWidow]

Back by popular demand...who knew my inbox could hold that many PMs?

http://i10.tinypic.com/2uh5lkg.jpg

That is GROSS!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

[DavidMn]

This I can get on board with. Yum. But I do like a good cologne also.I prefer Swiss Army.:nod:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Hi, do you want my address so you can send me all your cashmere? Says the $$$ poor knitter who loves to recycle sweaters. . .

you know, it gets really cold during the winter -- a cashmere scarf would be lovely. plus, i'm sure jason has some burberry he can no longer wear :D

[hayley]

you know, it gets really cold during the winter -- a cashmere scarf would be lovely. plus, i'm sure jason has some burberry he can no longer wear :D

Absolutely. Jason ?

[trackaghost]

Have you ever heard that Hawksley Workman song about learning how to knit?
I will from now on think of you knitting cashmere scarves from old jumpers when I listen to it Hayley.

[amber]

I don't know how I missed that.


Don't know much about the AMber pits. Is she sensitive about them ?

No. One night, I posted a pic and my arms were up, and BTFLetc. said "nice pits!" and I thought she was joking, because who cares about pits, and she's a girl, so why would she care about mine? Anyway, I said something like that, joking, like "ewww, pits, you're weird!" or something, and then she was all in a huff b/c she really did like my pits and I had called her weird for it. Something totally stupid, of course. No, I'm not "sensitive" about my pits. But BTFLCHLD I think is sensitive about being called weird for complimenting my pits. :laugh:
My pits aren't nearly as hot as yours. Although, really it is your muscly arm that is hot.

[GypsySorcerer]

Krista, Stew, etc. - you guys all suck for watching Design Star but never responding to my thread about it! I had NO ONE to talk to about it the whole time. Oh, and I really didn't care if David or Alice won since they're both good, but his final room was the best.

See, since there will be Design Star 2,3,4, etc, we were just holding off in order to avoid burn-out. :laugh:

[hayley]

Have you ever heard that Hawksley Workman song about learning how to knit?
I will from now on think of you knitting cashmere scarves from old jumpers when I listen to it Hayley.

No! I only have a couple of his songs that I downloaded off a music blog somewhere or something. That's awesome.

Recycling sweaters is awesome. You can go to a thrift store and buy a **** ton of ugly sweaters and make not ugly things from them.

[trackaghost]

Oh, I'll upload it to yousendit in a while so you can hear. I'm just off to watch the new series of Extras first.

I really wish I could knit or sew, but I am hopeless at stuff like that. I have a friend who is always making things, and I'm in awe of her (and you!).

[DavidMn]

Ah how threads meander.:lol:

[hayley]

Oh, I'll upload it to yousendit in a while so you can hear. I'm just off to watch the new series of Extras first.

I really wish I could knit or sew, but I am hopeless at stuff like that. I have a friend who is always making things, and I'm in awe of her (and you!).

Sweet, thank you!

Knitting takes some time to learn, but it's so much fun. I even spin my own yarn... lololol. /dork

ETA: In honor of your 'Extras' viewing, I am going to play all the songs from The Office starting with 'Free Love Freeway.'

[BlackWidow]

Markolas - I've no clue how she got invited to the private Dalai Lama thing. :shrug: Not sure if she had to put her name on a list or if it was totally random.

Krista, Stew, etc. - you guys all suck for watching Design Star but never responding to my thread about it! I had NO ONE to talk to about it the whole time. Hookers. :mad: Oh, and I really didn't care if David or Alice won since they're both good, but his final room was the best.

I started a Design Star Thread too..No one responded and then BAM..they all came out of the wood work..go figure!:rolleyes:

[sparky]

Back by popular demand...who knew my inbox could hold that many PMs?

http://i10.tinypic.com/2uh5lkg.jpg

You are so damned funny.

That is GROSS!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

No matter. It's brought many men much joy.:laugh:

[trackaghost]

Sweet, thank you!

Knitting takes some time to learn, but it's so much fun. I even spin my own yarn... lololol. /dork

ETA: In honor of your 'Extras' viewing, I am going to play all the songs from The Office starting with 'Free Love Freeway.'

Haha! Cool, I love that song: "Free love on the freelove freeway, the love is free and the freeway's long..."


Here's Learn How To Knit. I hadn't listened to it in ages but it still sounds pretty nice. It's from his Christmas EP, Almost A Full Moon.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BF9C6F030B70AE2A

[skcin]

I started a Design Star Thread too..No one responded and then BAM..they all came out of the wood work..go figure!:rolleyes:

Yeah, but mine was up week 1 & nothing the whole time! Jill said she may watch, and that was it. I even lamely responded to my own thread to keep it alive. :distress: Bastards.

[hayley]

Haha! Cool, I love that song: "Free love on the freelove freeway, the love is free and the freeway's long..."


Here's Learn How To Knit. I hadn't listened to it in ages but it still sounds pretty nice. It's from his Christmas EP, Almost A Full Moon.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BF9C6F030B70AE2A

Ooh, thanks! I likes.

I love Ricky Gervais. I don't have HBO yet so I haven't seen any of Extras. It's not on DVD yet here !

[trackaghost]

Wow, really? Hopefully it will come out on DVD soon. Maybe for Christmas?
It's not as good as The Office but still pretty funny.
Tonight's episode had Orlando Bloom in it sending himself up.

[Johnny Stew]

Krista, Stew, etc. - you guys all suck for watching Design Star but never responding to my thread about it! I had NO ONE to talk to about it the whole time. Hookers. :mad: Sorry, Paula... the show's run coincided with my mother's illness, so I didn't catch all of the episodes and my internet time was severely limited.

Under normal circumstances, I would've definitely participated in your thread. :xoxo:

[JazmenFlowers]

Markolas - I've no clue how she got invited to the private Dalai Lama thing. :shrug: Not sure if she had to put her name on a list or if it was totally random.

Krista, Stew, etc. - you guys all suck for watching Design Star but never responding to my thread about it! I had NO ONE to talk to about it the whole time. Hookers. :mad: Oh, and I really didn't care if David or Alice won since they're both good, but his final room was the best.

I started a Design Star Thread too..No one responded and then BAM..they all came out of the wood work..go figure!:rolleyes:

Yeah, but mine was up week 1 & nothing the whole time! Jill said she may watch, and that was it. I even lamely responded to my own thread to keep it alive. :distress: Bastards.
oops. :eek:

how did I miss the thread? I actually thought the show may have been a flop so I never wanted anyone to know I watched it. :lol:

[BlackWidow]

You are so damned funny.



No matter. It's brought many men much joy.:laugh:

I want to see your FACE!:nod:

[BlackWidow]

Yeah, but mine was up week 1 & nothing the whole time! Jill said she may watch, and that was it. I even lamely responded to my own thread to keep it alive. :distress: Bastards.

LMAO!!! (Bastards):laugh:

[carrie721]

Back by popular demand...who knew my inbox could hold that many PMs?

http://i10.tinypic.com/2uh5lkg.jpg

hot arms! well, i guess i should say arm, singular ... the other might be a weird t-rex arm or something.

[amber]

hot arms! well, i guess i should say arm, singular ... the other might be a weird t-rex arm or something.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had a teacher in highschool with those, we always made fun of her. I mean, she held them out front like that, too. We had some name for her that was part her real name, part tyrannosaurus rex. Like, Harndenrexasaurus or something.

[sparky]

I want to see your FACE!:nod:

Who gives a f*ck about that? Dream on, silly dreamer.

My pits gross you out. That fact is clear. :laugh:

I already know we are sexually incompatible.

The rest is just b.s.

[carrie721]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had a teacher in highschool with those, we always made fun of her. I mean, she held them out front like that, too. We had some name for her that was part her real name, part tyrannosaurus rex. Like, Harndenrexasaurus or something.

:laugh: we have a dude like that who comes into my work. when he pays for h is food, we have to take the money out of my wallet. a guy i work with ran into this dude at a cybercafe and the dude was totally using the computer with his feet. :]

[skcin]

oops. :eek:

how did I miss the thread? I actually thought the show may have been a flop so I never wanted anyone to know I watched it. :lol:

Well, not me, I was out & proud about my Design Star fandom. Hooker. :laugh:

[Serrart]

Well, the thing is Josh seemingly was never really willing to cut her any slack - or at least the same slack he seemingly gave to other members. Josh also seemed to focus on the negative and never really acknowledge the postitive. But, that was his personage and much of his charm in that he was negative in a clever way. He was also so anti everything establishment it was funny because he worked for that very establishment. All those differences made him a great wit and formidable friend.

I mean who here did not have at least a partial love/hate relationship with Josh :wavey:

I'm starting to have shivers, he's still alive and kicking (I'm sure you'll love LB album Josh :thumbsup: ) what is this a plastic funeral?

Romy

[BlackWidow]

Who gives a f*ck about that? Dream on, silly dreamer.

My pits gross you out. That fact is clear. :laugh:

I already know we are sexually incompatible.

The rest is just b.s.

LMFAO!!!!
You couldn't handle all this anyway...amatuer.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[sparky]

LMFAO!!!!
You couldn't handle all this anyway...amatuer.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Don't confuse couldn't with wouldn't.

[strandinthewind]

LMFAO!!!!
You couldn't handle all this anyway...amatuer.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Homey - unless you have a wicked combination of fur restraints, olive oil, some butane, and hot coffee grinds - you are out of you league :p

[Johnny Stew]

Don't confuse couldn't with wouldn't.Ooh, snap! :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

Don't confuse couldn't with wouldn't.

"I release you and your stinky pits to the universe, with love"

[BlackWidow]

Ooh, snap! :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

Homey - unless you have a wicked combination of fur restraints, olive oil, some butane, and hot coffee grinds - you are out of you league :p

That's true....call me old fashioned I guess.:shrug: :D

[sparky]

"I release you and your stinky pits to the universe, with love"


That is so Marianne Williamson meets Beavis and Butthead.

Curious.

And since you'll never get near enough to my pits to ascertain
their scent, the 'stink' part of the statement is merely your scorn speaking.
Which, in itself, is wildly entertaining.

[BlackWidow]

That is so Marianne Williamson meets Beavis and Butthead.

Curious.

And since you'll never get near enough to my pits to ascertain
their scent, the 'stink' part of the statement is merely your scorn speaking.
Which, in itself, is wildly entertaining.
I had you at Rockaway Records!
You get me and I get you.
Keep pretending you don't care what I think...I find that wildly entertaining.

[sparky]

Keep pretending you don't care what I think...I find that wildly entertaining.

Oh, there's no pretending on that.

It's just kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, this stuff.

[amber]

I had you at Rockaway Records!
You get me and I get you.
Keep pretending you don't care what I think...I find that wildly entertaining.

yeah, no, he really doesn't care. Really. Best you realize that now. Move along, nothing to see here.

[sparky]

yeah, no, he really doesn't care. Really. Best you realize that now. Move along, nothing to see here.

You're like a dog with an imaginary bone sometimes, Frank.

[witchy-poo]

still learning how this works

[amber]

Amber..you must be bored tonite...:nod:

Do I know you? :shrug:
Also, I'm always bored yet simultaneously never bored. So, business as usual here.

[amber]

You're like a dog with an imaginary bone sometimes, Frank.
You're like an imaginary owner that gave me a bone, but laughed at me for liking the bone.
:laugh:
Anyway, leave me alone, if you're just going to mock my feelings and hurt them. Nothing to see here, move along. :laugh:

[sparky]

You're like an imaginary owner that gave me a bone, but laughed at me for liking the bone.
:laugh:
Anyway, leave me alone, if you're just going to mock my feelings and hurt them. Nothing to see here, move along. :laugh:

Gladly. You've clearly lost your mind. I don't even know what we're talking about at this point.

[BlackWidow]

Oh, there's no pretending on that.

It's just kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, this stuff.

OK. Keep telling yourself that. It might stick.:thumbsup:

[amber]

Gladly. You've clearly lost your mind. I don't even know what we're talking about at this point.

Yeah. I'd actually lost my mind before I came here, so you've been talking to a person with a lost mind all this time. Sucks to be you. :laugh:

[sparky]

Yeah. I'd actually lost my mind before I came here, so you've been talking to a person with a lost mind all this time. Sucks to be you. :laugh:

Not really. And I kind of already knew that.

I thought you wanted me to leave you alone ?

So why the response ? Oh, yeah, the mind thing.:blob2:

[amber]

Not really. And I kind of already knew that.

I thought you wanted me to leave you alone ?

So why the response ? Oh, yeah, the mind thing.:blob2:

No, I said you leave me alone, I don't have to leave you alone. :laugh: I just didn't want you to say anything dismissive again, barring that, i have no problems.
I'm so lucky, you don't talk to me for weeks, but now this. This awesome banter.
I feel blessed now that you knew i was crazy all along, but have been humoring me by having conversations. You. Are. So. Sweet! :xoxo: It must have been torture for you.

Hey, how can I get one of these shows where they build people's houses to give me a house? Do you know? Do I have to adopt some kids, or get a disability, or have kids and a disability? Why do people who plop out kids always get stuff? Sparky? :confused: Maybe some kind of disease would do it. This guy I'm watching now got testicular cancer, and so he gets a free house.

[sparky]

No, I said you leave me alone, I don't have to leave you alone. :laugh:

Typical !:laugh:

I just didn't want you to say anything dismissive again, barring that, i have no problems.

The problem being I have no control over what you interpret as dismissive.

I'm so lucky, you don't talk to me for weeks, but now this. This awesome banter.
I feel blessed now that you knew i was crazy all along, but have been humoring me by having conversations. You. Are. So. Sweet! :xoxo: It must have been torture for you.

Thus, the prescriptions.

Hey, how can I get one of these shows where they build people's houses to give me a house? Do you know? Do I have to adopt some kids, or get a disability, or have kids and a disability? Why do people who plop out kids always get stuff? Sparky? :confused: Maybe some kind of disease would do it. This guy I'm watching now got testicular cancer, and so he gets a free house.

Starving unhealthy babies and tragedy will get you cast. It helps to live in a horrific tear down dump that isn't big enough for your brood. You have to be able to make the audience cry when you get some free stuff. And make the audience feel they are hella lucky they aren't you, even if you got lotsa free stuff. It's all about comparative therapy.

[amber]

Starving unhealthy babies and tragedy will get you cast. It helps to live in a horrific tear down dump that isn't big enough for your brood. You have to be able to make the audience cry when you get some free stuff. And make the audience feel they are hella lucky they aren't you, even if you got lotsa free stuff. It's all about comparative therapy.

:lol:

Well, obviously, everyone should be happy they aren't me. And I have three cats (I know, I know) so shouldn't that be good? Dump, got it. But how could the audience truly feel lucky they aren't me when i am so attractive and childless, with such a cute figure? :distress: I'll never get that free house. I should borrow all my stupid friends' kids, and sob a little. Maybe gain some weight about the middle, implying that I have no regard for my well being and no knowlege of nutrition. Then people will be afraid for my fake kids, that I'll feed them crappily and chub them up, too. I'll pretend we're the Dugong family. I mean, that will be our new fake last name.

They'll be like "The Dugong children all have to sleep in one room. Mrs. Dugong sleeps on the sofa in the living room. It's a struggle for her to make enough money to provide her kids with crappy snack foods. The Dugongs subsist mainly on chips and soda, the children don't even know what the word "vegetable" means."

Think that would work?