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irishgrl
08-24-2006, 04:52 PM
ok so who besides me is fuming about Pluto being downgraded as a planet?

I mean, it has a moon doesnt it? It orbits our Sun doesnt it? Its nearly round right? But apparently it doesnt clear its orbital path--it overlaps with Neptune......so for this it gets downgraded???

I was looking for planetary pics and came across these:
http://www.space.com/images/ig211_01_02.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/ig211_04.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/ig211_06.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/ig211_08.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/ig211_11.jpg

I guess thats good for starters....................

oh and the article I read said this Pluto debate aint over YET..............

here's an excerpt:

Stern, in charge of the robotic probe on its way to Pluto, said the language of the resolution is flawed. It requires that a planet "has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit." But Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Neptune all have asteroids as neighbors.

"It's patently clear that Earth's zone is not cleared," Stern told SPACE.com. "Jupiter has 50,000 trojan asteroids," which orbit in lockstep with the planet.

Stern called it "absurd" that only 424 astronomers were allowed to vote, out of some 10,000 professional astronomers around the globe.

"It won't stand," he said. "It's a farce."

Stern said astronomers are already circulating a petition that would try to overturn the IAU decision.

strandinthewind
08-24-2006, 04:53 PM
W clearly caused this to happen :wavey:

DrummerDeanna
08-24-2006, 04:54 PM
I am completely bummed and miffed that Pluto's been downgraded. Of course, being from New Mexico - and an alum of New Mexico State University it's almost a slap in the face. My hometown and University was the home to Pluto's discoverer for many years until his death.

Great pics btw!

chiliD
08-24-2006, 04:57 PM
Oh...I'm beyond pissed off about it. They can call it what they want (along the same lines as "a rose is a rose"), just because it does something no OTHER planet does, doesn't discount it being a planet. After all, it is what it is, right? I still believe that there are at LEAST three other "planets" (or haven't been LABELED as such) BEYOND Pluto.

This is really gonna screw up Astrologers...Pluto will have to be taken out of all those astrological charts now.

irishgrl
08-24-2006, 05:05 PM
Oh...I'm beyond pissed off about it. They can call it what they want (along the same lines as "a rose is a rose"), just because it does something no OTHER planet does, doesn't discount it being a planet. After all, it is what it is, right? I still believe that there are at LEAST three other "planets" (or haven't been LABELED as such) BEYOND Pluto.

This is really gonna screw up Astrologers...Pluto will have to be taken out of all those astrological charts now.


Well, Im not so sure Pluto will need to be taken out of Astrology charts, I mean its not as if the planet itself disappeared :shrug: Pluto is still there in the heavens and I think Astrologically speaking all will be well....

PS: aren't those aurora pix awesome?

chiliD
08-24-2006, 05:08 PM
PS: aren't those aurora pix awesome?

The photos are great...but, it really has to been seen live & in person. It's really eerie to see...back in '81 when I was galavanting around Alberta for 2/3 of the year, I was really fortunate to catch a few nights of 'em. I felt like I was in some other universe.

DrummerDeanna
08-24-2006, 05:14 PM
I soo want to see the aurora in real life - it's a goal in life...also to see some whales out in the wild :D

NPR actually interviewed an astrologer about the Pluto thing yesterday...it followed a story about Tom Cruise and before the stories Robert Siegel said, "All Things Considered goes tabloid after this...." :laugh:

shackin'up
08-24-2006, 05:18 PM
Pluto will have to be taken out of all those astrological charts now.


Well, than Mickey can finally celebrate his friends' birthday quitely.:nod:

irishgrl
08-24-2006, 05:20 PM
Well, than Mickey can finally celebrate his friends' birthday quitely.:nod:


oh that was droll....:nod:

mikeschmike
08-24-2006, 05:27 PM
The photos are great...but, it really has to been seen live & in person. It's really eerie to see...back in '81 when I was galavanting around Alberta for 2/3 of the year, I was really fortunate to catch a few nights of 'em. I felt like I was in some other universe.

It is a beautiful sight. I used to see the northern lights dance across the sky when I visited relatives that lived near the MN/Canada border. You can still get a peek here in the central part of the state, but not nearly as much of a show up north.

MacMan
08-24-2006, 09:35 PM
The photos are great...but, it really has to been seen live & in person. It's really eerie to see...back in '81 when I was galavanting around Alberta for 2/3 of the year, I was really fortunate to catch a few nights of 'em. I felt like I was in some other universe.

I grew up seeing the Northern Lights every winter as a kid. They are very cool! I took it for granted at the time. I haven't seen them in years - but would like to again.

ryan8472
08-24-2006, 11:03 PM
It's nothing to be pissed about I guess. :laugh: But I do agree with what has been done. If Pluto is considered a planet, then hundreds of other objects should be as well. :nod:

amber
08-25-2006, 12:47 AM
Hurray!!

"PLUTO "DEMOTED" BY IAU

The International Astronomical Union stripped Pluto of its status as a planet today and has reclassified it as a "dwarf planet." The decision, made by less than 5% of the world's astronomers, is unlikely to affect the astrology community and, in fact, is not accepted by all astronomers either. Perhaps it's the "Lord of the Underworld's" proximity to the Galactic Center that led to this astronomical transformation. Pluto has been a valuable addition to astrology charts since its discovery in 1930 and will continue to be an essential factor in personality analysis and forecasting. Astrologers have called the Sun and Moon "planets" for millennia without problem and will continue to do the same with Pluto."

irishgrl
08-25-2006, 06:19 AM
All "hurray's" aside, I dont think this is over yet. and as I predicted, Astrology will not be affected.

irishgrl
08-25-2006, 06:21 AM
It's nothing to be pissed about I guess. :laugh: But I do agree with what has been done. If Pluto is considered a planet, then hundreds of other objects should be as well. :nod:

such as? and what's wrong with considering Pluto a planet? It fits the description of a planet in every way except the strangely unnecessary requirement to "clear its orbital path" which even the Earth does not do :shrug:

Für Elise
08-26-2006, 04:04 AM
Whew, thank goodness! I filled out some astrology thingy months ago and my profile made all kinds of references to Pluto. I was concerned that if Pluto was no longer a planet, then I might cease to exist.:lol: I was going to ask what relevance astrology really had with all of this