World Trade Center

[DavidMn]

So its out today. almost every reviewer I've heard loves it. I think I'm going to check it out Friday. Who else is planning to see it?

[seeker007nmss]

I really have no interest in seeing it. Maybe it is too soon, or I just don't like the idea of making money off it. :shrug:

[DrummerDeanna]

I saw the trailer when I went to see The Devil Wears Prada and the damn thing made me BAWL LIKE A BABY!! I cried through the whole thing...

I'm afraid seeing the actual movie may be very hard - but I'm actually a bit interested...

[mikeschmike]

Knowing about all of the people making money off of this movie is enough to make me never want to see it. Not only that, Nicholas Cage makes me want to hit things.

[cliffdweller]

I really have no interest in seeing it.


Me neither, I think it looks like a **** movie. I love it when Hollywood tells me how I should feel about and/or commemorate events such as 9/11. They really have their fingers on the pulse of it all :rolleyes:.

Oh and Mike, Nick Cage makes me want to hit things too...mainly his face :laugh:.

[BTFLCHLD]

Did anyone see the MTV special for the movie on CBS last night prior to Big Brother and Supernova? They interviewed Oliver Stone, Nicholas Cage, and the fireman that the story is based on. I only saw the last few minutes, and then the announcement that the proceeding was a paid program. I think this is the first time I have ever seen this type of advertisement for a movie. I guess they are trying really hard to get people to buy-into this film being made in the first place? :shrug:

[DrummerDeanna]

It's about two amazing men who SURVIVED! What's wrong with getting their story out??

And a lot of the actual firefighters and such are in the film - and I don't know - I think they're trying to do a good thing - :shrug:

[BTFLCHLD]

What's wrong with getting their story out?? Are you directing this post to me?

[Enchanted_Stevi]

I dont want to see it. It seems like a too touchy subject to make a movie out of.

[DrummerDeanna]

Are you directing this post to me?

No - more to everyone. I just don't see why this is such a horrible thing...some people memorialize in different ways. This movie isn't meant for entertainment per se - but as a way to dramatize and remember and honor.

I don't know - I have mixed feelings, but will probably see it - the trailer alone was very powerful.

[strandinthewind]

Me neither, I think it looks like a **** movie. I love it when Hollywood tells me how I should feel about and/or commemorate events such as 9/11. They really have their fingers on the pulse of it all :rolleyes:.

Oh and Mike, Nick Cage makes me want to hit things too...mainly his face :laugh:.

YOU HATE EVERYTHING :laugh: :laugh:

I only wish Josh were here to join you :laugh:

As for the movie, I read in Time Magazine that the people portrayed were elated that Stone told it as it was. So, the horses' mouths indicate this is a true telling of that horrid day.

In the end, throughout recorded history have depicted actual events and I see this as no different than any of those other ventures, other than many people can't stand any thought of this event other than horror.

Finally, how is Hollywood telling you how to feel? I do not get that comment. If you mean that you are supposed to feel a certain way while watching this - well isn't that what all plays and films do?

[BTFLCHLD]

No - more to everyone. OK. I wasn't sure if you were or not. I do not see anything wrong with this movie being made. I did find curious though this MTV special on CBS. I do not recall this happening prior to any other movie's release, but perhaps I am wrong.

[DrummerDeanna]

OK. I wasn't sure if you were or not. I do not see anything wrong with this movie being made. I did find curious though this MTV special on CBS. I do not recall this happening prior to any other movie's release, but perhaps I am wrong.

Ha - yeah that's fine...I can see how it seemed I was directing right at you - but it was more of a blanket question...and the MTV thing on another station does strike me as odd...I don't really know what to think or say about that one.

[sparky]

Nick Cage makes me want to hit things too...mainly his face :laugh:.

:laugh:
Me too. But you can always count on him to talk with a stuffed nose, and be a hangdog dreary and dopey guy, no matter the character. At least he is consistent. I don't plan on seeing the flick.

[DrummerDeanna]

aww...what's with the nicolas cage hate???

Ok..actually I can see why people wouldn't like him. As a person he kind of strikes me as an ass - but damned if I don't enjoy his flicks:o

[strandinthewind]

:laugh:
Me too. But you can always count on him to talk with a stuffed nose, and be a hangdog dreary and dopey guy, no matter the character. At least he is consistent. I don't plan on seeing the flick.

SNAP OUT OF IT :D :D

[mikeschmike]

SNAP OUT OF IT :D :D

I love that movie enough to overlook his really bad attempt at a Brooklyn accent.

[sparky]

SNAP OUT OF IT :D :D

I like that movie. The one character he is capable of playing was perfect in that one.

[BTFLCHLD]

I like that movie. The one character he is capable of playing was perfect in that one. What about "Face-Off?"

[DrummerDeanna]

OMG Moonstruck is one of my favorite movies ever - perhaps that's why I'm a bit partial to Mr. Cage.

[estranged4life]

in seeing this film. I think the best 911 related film was "9-1-1", the doctumentary by 2 French brothers who were originally filming a story about a rookie firefighter joining a NY firehouse and all the struggles that come with becoming a firefighter, to only have 911 happen as they were filming (The French brothers are the ones who filmed the first jet impacting the WTC, the only known footage of the first impact-They also were inside the buildings filming as people jumped to their deaths, the sound was sickening).

I would, however, like to see a movie about the conspiracy of the OKC bombing...It's been 11 years and us Oklahomans are still trying to figure exactly what the hell happened that April day & why the govt. keeps BS-ing the truth.

[seeker007nmss]

Did anyone see the MTV special for the movie on CBS last night prior to Big Brother and Supernova? They interviewed Oliver Stone, Nicholas Cage, and the fireman that the story is based on. I only saw the last few minutes, and then the announcement that the proceeding was a paid program. I think this is the first time I have ever seen this type of advertisement for a movie. I guess they are trying really hard to get people to buy-into this film being made in the first place? :shrug:


Oliver Stone is involved? Then have even LESS interest in it now.

[strandinthewind]

That 9/11 doc was numbingly blunt. What a flic.

[JazmenFlowers]

I really don't see a problem with the film itself. I'm interested in seeing it, just not yet...

personally.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

in seeing this film. I think the best 911 related film was "9-1-1", the doctumentary by 2 French brothers who were originally filming a story about a rookie firefighter joining a NY firehouse and all the struggles that come with becoming a firefighter, to only have 911 happen as they were filming (The French brothers are the ones who filmed the first jet impacting the WTC, the only known footage of the first impact-They also were inside the buildings filming as people jumped to their deaths, the sound was sickening).


I saw that one too.

[eclipse]

Oliver Stone is involved? Then have even LESS interest in it now.
I am SO with you...I just hate Oliver Ston'es movies...and I have seen too many of them to know- Too melodramatic-too long- too many cheesy slow-mo re-enacments (i.e. Born on the 4th of July...Hate it!!)

He really should have stopped at Wallstreet *(I am not even sure if that is the name of it...Michael Douglas is big time finance guy..that movie was great!

As far as just 9/11...I think I would just cry the whole time...( I know it is suppossed to be about survivors, but still, over 3000 didn't. I don't need anymore reality-just read the paper, or turn on the news...
I am looking for entertainment when I hit the movies these days...

[emfan2377]

Long time lurker here. I'm from the Bronx and one of the men in the film who died, Dominick Puzzullo was from my neighborhood. I knew him from a job I once had, not well, but he was a really nice guy.

Prior to becoming a PA cop, he was the local high school shop teacher for many years. And well loved by his students. (He was also an extraordinarily handsome man, Jay Hernandez has nothing on him.)

All of the reviews of the movie I have read, state that his death is the most touching scene in the movie. He had the opportunity to get out of the rubble after the first tower collapsed but refused to leave his partner, who was trapped. Hours later, after the second tower collaspsed, he was trapped himself and died. Right before he died, he was able to fire a shot from his gun that alerted the rescuers to the area where the men were trapped.

I'll see this movie, just not in a theater.

[eclipse]

Long time lurker here. I'm from the Bronx and one of the men in the film who died, Dominick Puzzullo was from my neighborhood. I knew him from a job I once had, not well, but he was a really nice guy.

Prior to becoming a PA cop, he was the local high school shop teacher for many years. And well loved by his students.


Welcome to the Ledge...and allow me to give you my sympathy on the death of perhaps not a friend...but someone that touched you-
All of us at the Ledge, and I am pretty sure I speak for one and all...

Honor the dead, and walking wounded, that are still grieving as a result of September 11th :(

[emfan2377]

Welcome to the Ledge...and allow me to give you my sympathy on the death of perhaps not a friend...but someone that touched you-
All of us at the Ledge, and I am pretty sure I speak for one and all...

Honor the dead, and walking wounded, that are still grieving as a result of September 11th :(

Thank you. My area of the Bronx was greatly affected on 9/11. Many of the residents are NYPD, FDNY, and other New York City employees. I believe over 291 people from my area died that day, many of them FDNY. Considering my neighborhood has only 5000 or so people, that's an insane number. For months it seemed like it was one funeral after another.

To be honest, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about it. I think many New Yorkers haven't forgotten either.

[SuzeQuze]

It's about two amazing men who SURVIVED! What's wrong with getting their story out??

And a lot of the actual firefighters and such are in the film - and I don't know - I think they're trying to do a good thing - :shrug:

The profits should be given back to the people victimized IMO.

[JazmenFlowers]

Thank you. My area of the Bronx was greatly affected on 9/11. Many of the residents are NYPD, FDNY, and other New York City employees. I believe over 291 people from my area died that day, many of them FDNY. Considering my neighborhood has only 5000 or so people, that's an insane number. For months it seemed like it was one funeral after another.

To be honest, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about it. I think many New Yorkers haven't forgotten either.
welcome to the Ledge.

and thanks for being so brave to discuss this here. and I am sorry for your loss(es).

[estranged4life]

as rather sad is that each of the rescuers from NYC that arrived in OKC, after the Murrah Building bombing to help recover the innocent who perished, died on 911.

If ya now go to the National Memorial in OKC, there's a good chance you'll see a member of the NYFD/NYPD paying their respects to our tragedy. They, the NYFD/NYPD members, are drawn here since OKC can understand in a way how NYC felt that September day in 2001.

[SuzeQuze]

Thank you. My area of the Bronx was greatly affected on 9/11. Many of the residents are NYPD, FDNY, and other New York City employees. I believe over 291 people from my area died that day, many of them FDNY. Considering my neighborhood has only 5000 or so people, that's an insane number. For months it seemed like it was one funeral after another.

To be honest, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about it. I think many New Yorkers haven't forgotten either.

How horrible. You can't forget with the permanent change in the skyline. I'm so sorry for your losses from that day.

[emfan2377]

as rather sad is that each of the rescuers from NYC that arrived in OKC, after the Murrah Building bombing to help recover the innocent who perished, died on 911.

If ya now go to the National Memorial in OKC, there's a good chance you'll see a member of the NYFD/NYPD paying their respects to our tragedy. They, the NYFD/NYPD members, are drawn here since OKC can understand in a way how NYC felt that September day in 2001.

Very true. I think I read something like 90% of the squad sent to OKC died on 9/11.

The heroism displayed by thousands of people, from all walks of life, that day is astounding.

[emfan2377]

How horrible. You can't forget with the permanent change in the skyline. I'm so sorry for your losses from that day.

I also work in the popular neighborhood funeral home (along with another job). Day in and day out, it was arranging funerals for families that had no remains to mourn over. I've had enough of death to last me a lifetime. Blah, I need a new job.

[SuzeQuze]

I also work in the popular neighborhood funeral home (along with another job). Day in and day out, it was arranging funerals for families that had no remains to mourn over. I've had enough of death to last me a lifetime. Blah, I need a new job.

How awful. I was there a few weeks after the attacks and heard the bagpipes myself. They may not have been for a victim(s) but they sure were chilling. That and seeing the smoke from the vacant area where the WTC once stood. :( I went to visit my little cousin who had just moved to Long Island to live with her Dad. Friends of the family suffered so many losses. It was unfathomable.

[emfan2377]

How awful. I was there a few weeks after the attacks and heard the bagpipes myself. They may not have been for a victim(s) but they sure were chilling. That and seeing the smoke from the vacant area where the WTC once stood. :( I went to visit my little cousin who had just moved to Long Island to live with her Dad. Friends of the family suffered so many losses. It was unfathomable.

I love my job, I really do. Outside of the occassional baby/child funeral, 9/11 funerals are the kind I never want to repeat. The sadness.

[JazmenFlowers]

I love my job, I really do. Outside of the occassional baby/child funeral, 9/11 funerals are the kind I never want to repeat. The sadness.
it is a job that must be done, though. I can't imagine how hard it must be...I'm sure it takes a lot of strength and a lot of families are grateful that you were there.

it may be that it is time for you to find something else...pass the torch on to someone not as "exhausted" by it as you.

[estranged4life]

Very true. I think I read something like 90% of the squad sent to OKC died on 9/11.

The heroism displayed by thousands of people, from all walks of life, that day is astounding.

the local reports I remember reported that all 12 members of the NYFD rescue squad, who arrived in OKC on their own $$$ & time, died on 911.

I remember one NYFD rescuer named Father Mike (I believe that was his name), who is the man shown in pictures (That were shown in magazines/newspapers worldwide) being carried in a chair from the WTC, after he was killed when a person from high above in the WTC landed upon him.

This man of the cloth, died with his rosary in his hand...the same rosary that was given to him by then Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating when Father Mike came to OKC to assist in recovery of our dead.

The National Memorial Museum has honored the fallen NYFD/NYPD from 911...Oklahomans have never forgetten how those New Yorkers came to assist us in our time of sorrow, We gratefully returned the same.

[emfan2377]

it is a job that must be done, though. I can't imagine how hard it must be...I'm sure it takes a lot of strength and a lot of families are grateful that you were there.

it may be that it is time for you to find something else...pass the torch on to someone not as "exhausted" by it as you.

I think I would be better off working out of my area. Too many times, I know the person being waked, or know someone who is related to them. I've begun to move away from the "body process" as I became licensed to direct funerals about a year ago. Occassionally, I'll pop downstairs and help out. Like when my aunt died, I went and did her hair, dressed her and painted her nails. She was a picky bitch and I knew what she liked. :laugh:

[emfan2377]

the local reports I remember reported that all 12 members of the NYFD rescue squad, who arrived in OKC on their own $$$ & time, died on 911.

I remember one NYFD rescuer named Father Mike (I believe that was his name), who is the man shown in pictures (That were shown in magazines/newspapers worldwide) being carried in a chair from the WTC, after he was killed when a person from high above in the WTC landed upon him.

This man of the cloth, died with his rosary in his hand...the same rosary that was given to him by then Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating when Father Mike came to OKC to assist in recovery of our dead.

The National Memorial Museum has honored the fallen NYFD/NYPD from 911...Oklahomans have never forgetten how those New Yorkers came to assist us in our time of sorrow, We gratefully returned the same.

Mychal Judge, the FDNY Chaplain. His story was another sad one. He was praying over a body (think it was a fireman), when a jumper landed on him.

[estranged4life]

Mychal Judge, the FDNY Chaplain. His story was another sad one. He was praying over a body (think it was a fireman), when a jumper landed on him.

that was the man, Father Mike.

OKC & NYC will always be connected due to manmade hate-inspired tragedies.

[emfan2377]

that was the man, Father Mike.

OKC & NYC will always be connected due to manmade hate-inspired tragedies.


I agree. It's just a damn shame that many Americans have already forgotten OKC. I always think about the picture of the little girl being carried from the rubble. Was her name Bailey? For some reason that is popping in my head. All those poor children. :(

[wondergirl9847]

I went to the OKC Memorial back in March of last year. It's powerful. My mom and I were in the first room, there were pictures on the wall and various items on display. My mom goes "Awww....look at the kids." and I lost it. Couldn't control my crying...and it continued on and off throughout the entire tour.

If you ever to to OKC....make sure to go to the Memorial.

[estranged4life]

I agree. It's just a damn shame that many Americans have already forgotten OKC. I always think about the picture of the little girl being carried from the rubble. Was her name Bailey? For some reason that is popping in my head. All those poor children. :(

lil' Bailey Almon...That picture of that poor child being carried out of the Murrah Building wreckage is still haunting.

Bailey's mother has a bistro restaurant not far from the Murrah Memorial.

[DavidMn]

in seeing this film. I think the best 911 related film was "9-1-1", the doctumentary by 2 French brothers who were originally filming a story about a rookie firefighter joining a NY firehouse and all the struggles that come with becoming a firefighter, to only have 911 happen as they were filming (The French brothers are the ones who filmed the first jet impacting the WTC, the only known footage of the first impact-They also were inside the buildings filming as people jumped to their deaths, the sound was sickening).

I would, however, like to see a movie about the conspiracy of the OKC bombing...It's been 11 years and us Oklahomans are still trying to figure exactly what the hell happened that April day & why the govt. keeps BS-ing the truth.Yes, that was excellent.

[DavidMn]

I agree. It's just a damn shame that many Americans have already forgotten OKC. I always think about the picture of the little girl being carried from the rubble. Was her name Bailey? For some reason that is popping in my head. All those poor children. :(BTW, nice to have you here. Welcome!:)