Just piano please

[aleuzzi]

Fans have probably discussed this before, but does anyone know exactly why Chris insisted on only playing the piano during the Heroes tour? The only written explanation I've ever come across was in a book on the band where the author said something like "she didn't feel like playing anything but the piano." Not particularly helpful.

I have a couple of possible ideas:

1. She did this to get some new perspective on songs she'd done so many times on previous tours.

2. She hadn't toured in months and felt insecure about handling all the keyboards. (just a thought...)

3. Bob's new Heroes songs, like "Bermuda Triangle" demanded some synth, which she either wasn't too keen on playing or couldn't play because she was busy at the keys.

4. She wanted to beef up her piano chops again.

Whhat do you think?

[HomerMcvie]

I think that they needed to flesh out their live sound(since they were down to one guitar), and Bob wanted his keyboard buddy along for the ride.

[macfan 57]

I'll go along with Homer.:nod: With only 1 guitar, they wanted a fuller sound. In one interview, she later said that she wasn't real happy with Doug Graves' keyboards, that she didn't feel he complemented her piano all that well. As far as I'm concerned, the more keyboards the better. I LOVE those heroes boots!

[chiliD]

In one interview, she later said that she wasn't real happy with Doug Graves' keyboards...

Which could be why they switched to Bob Welch's old Head West bandmate, Bobby Hunt, later in the tour.

[macfan 57]

Which could be why they switched to Bob Welch's old Head West bandmate, Bobby Hunt, later in the tour.

Wasn't it the other way around? The only bootleg that I have with BH on keyboards is Sausalito. Don Kirshner, Hempstead & Chicago all have DG. I believe Hempstead & Chicago were all recorded in 10/74. Wasn't Sausalito recorded first, then Kirshner, then the 2 October performances.

[chiliD]

Wasn't it the other way around? The only bootleg that I have with BH on keyboards is Sausalito. Don Kirshner, Hempstead & Chicago all have DG. I believe Hempstead & Chicago were all recorded in 10/74. Wasn't Sausalito recorded first, then Kirshner, then the 2 October performances.

I saw 'em twice during that time...I was at the Kirshner taping (in late August or early September) when they had Doug (and his wonderful sparkling silver coat). Then I saw them again in mid-December at the Long Beach Arena, Bobby Hunt was with them.

[HomerMcvie]

Which could be why they switched to Bob Welch's old Head West bandmate, Bobby Hunt, later in the tour.
I couldn't remember which one was first, Doug or Bobby.





Yeah, I could've looked it up, or just sat here......;) :laugh:

[chiliD]

I couldn't remember which one was first, Doug or Bobby.





Yeah, I could've looked it up, or just sat here......;) :laugh:


Well, here's a hypothetical theory... :shrug:

The band decided to add a second keyboard player. Bobby Hunt just happened to drop by the studio (on Welch's invitation) when they did the Sausalito recording...then, when asked to do the tour, Hunt turned down the offer or had a scheduling conflict, so they got Doug. Doug doesn't work out for one reason or another and gets his walking papers, then Welch calls Hunt to join 'em for the last few shows of the tour.

See? It's not a "black & white" issue of whether Bobby Hunt or Doug Graves was "first". I don't think they were as retentive in 1974 as they became by 2003.

[macfan 57]

Well, here's a hypothetical theory... :shrug:

The band decided to add a second keyboard player. Bobby Hunt just happened to drop by the studio (on Welch's invitation) when they did the Sausalito recording...then, when asked to do the tour, Hunt turned down the offer or had a scheduling conflict, so they got Doug. Doug doesn't work out for one reason or another and gets his walking papers, then Welch calls Hunt to join 'em for the last few shows of the tour.


That makes sense.

[David]

I don't think Christine really enjoyed battling it out with these serious B3 players.

Although one of those guys plays some pad on "Bermuda Triangle" on that TV show & it really doesn't interfere with anything. It just complements the others.

[chiliD]

Although one of those guys plays some pad on "Bermuda Triangle" on that TV show & it really doesn't interfere with anything. It just complements the others.

That would be Doug Graves. ;)

[David]

That would be Doug Graves. ;)
Why is that guy's last name "Graves"?? I mean ... that's so ... cryptic.

[macfan 57]

Why is that guy's last name "Graves"?? I mean ... that's so ... cryptic.

David, Doug Graves has since passed away. According to Bob Welch in one of his Q & A's, he died of AIDS.

[David]

David, Doug Graves has since passed away. According to Bob Welch in one of his Q & A's, he died of AIDS.
Err........ rest in peace, Doug.

[HomerMcvie]

David, Doug Graves has since passed away. According to Bob Welch in one of his Q & A's, he died of AIDS.
Whew, and I thought I was the only David that liked to insert his foot into his mouth!:lol:




Rest in peace, Doug.

[chiliD]

Why is that guy's last name "Graves"?? I mean ... that's so ... cryptic.

Who's to say that it is pronounced "Grayvs"...could be "Grah'-vays" or "Grah-vess". :shocked:

And, the reason his last name is that is presumably because it's his father's last name...and his grandfather's...and great-grandfather's... (you get my drift).

Captain Literal strikes again! :laugh:

[michelle2677]

^^ ok, so the better question is:
why did his parents name him "doug":shocked:

[aleuzzi]

^^ ok, so the better question is:
why did his parents name him "doug":shocked:

Well done, Michelle! Match, point, set.

[David]

I have my doubts that Christine ever really played these pianos.

But more on that later.

[michelle2677]

and the plot thickens.......

[jbrownsjr]

I have my doubts that Christine ever really played these pianos.

But more on that later.


she only knows the keys of b flat, and c major as well

[HomerMcvie]

she only knows the keys of b flat, and c major as well

SYLM is in A
Ask Anybody is in Bb(I think. My memory's fading on this one)
Brown Eyes is in Bm
Wish You Were Here is in C
Never Make Me Cry is in C#(again, if I remember correctly)
Why is in D
Don't Stop is in E
Think About Me is in F
Over and Over is in G


I can't think of any songs in Eb, Ab, or Gb.....

[jbrownsjr]

SYLM is in A
Ask Anybody is in Bb(I think. My memory's fading on this one)
Brown Eyes is in Bm
Wish You Were Here is in C
Never Make Me Cry is in C#(again, if I remember correctly)
Why is in D
Don't Stop is in E
Think About Me is in F
Over and Over is in G


I can't think of any songs in Eb, Ab, or Gb.....

you are absolutely no fun today.... no capital letters for you!

[HomerMcvie]

you are absolutely no fun today.... no capital letters for you!

Oh bull! I'm always fun! Don't you like my new sig?:blob2: :blob2: :blob2: I would've NEVER put something sooo vulgar there, until the PC police started in on me.....

[jbrownsjr]

SYLM is in A
Ask Anybody is in Bb(I think. My memory's fading on this one)
Brown Eyes is in Bm
Wish You Were Here is in C
Never Make Me Cry is in C#(again, if I remember correctly)
Why is in D
Don't Stop is in E
Think About Me is in F
Over and Over is in G


I can't think of any songs in Eb, Ab, or Gb.....

she can't play c# only d flat

[HomerMcvie]

she can't play c# only d flat

yo mama (look, no caps!)

[Johnny Stew]

I would've NEVER put something sooo vulgar there, until the PC police started in on me.....Wow, so much for our truce, huh? :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

Wow, so much for our truce, huh? :shrug:

I lost my pen.....

(but, for the record, I WOULDN'T have ever actually MADE that my sig, until you chimed in).
Have a good day. I'm off to church.

[David]

I don't think you two will ever be really close friends. You seem to rub each other the wrong way.

But all is not lost, however, because you can still discuss the mechanics of making music (just don't discuss artistry or artists).

[jbrownsjr]

(just don't discuss artistry or artists).

or clothing, or politics, or religion, or food, or sports, or geography..

[jbrownsjr]

or clothing, or politics, or religion, or food, or sports, or geography..

or mathematics...

[jbrownsjr]

or mathematics...

or ceramics

[Johnny Stew]

or ceramicsor diuretics... or Dianetics....

[jbrownsjr]

or diuretics... or Dianetics....


or hairweaves, or fashion or crochet

[Johnny Stew]

or hairweaves, or fashion or crochetor croquet, or Krokus....

[HomerMcvie]

or clothing, or politics, or religion, or food, or sports, or geography..

I'm home from church now. It was great!:blob2:










Jeezus has all the money....

[jbrownsjr]

I'm home from church now. It was great!:blob2:










Jeezus has all the money....

or cars, soda, or scrunchies

[HomerMcvie]

or cars, soda, or scrunchies

Or beer, wine, or porn.

[jbrownsjr]

Or beer, wine, or porn.

or nationalities, eastern block countries, or stuff cabbage

[HomerMcvie]

or nationalities, eastern block countries, or stuff cabbage

I love stuffED cabbage!

[jbrownsjr]

Or beer, wine, or porn.

or perogies, or houlshski, or ravioli

[michelle2677]

mmm....ravioli......

[jbrownsjr]

or dissentions or chili d ism's, or carnes

[jbrownsjr]

or kolonopin, cocaine, or champagne

[jbrownsjr]

or bangers, or afternoon tea, or tube stations

[HomerMcvie]

or bangers, or afternoon tea, or tube stations

Dude, you said Bangers.:p

[jbrownsjr]

and old cave relics, and churches, and sainthood