Most annoying fan faction?

[SortaSavageLike]

I know I'm gonna stir up some s**t with this post, but something's been frustrating me for a very long time. Namely, the way the entire Fleetwood Mac fanbase seems to be fragmented into six or seven warring factions. I try to be open minded, but god, I'm getting annoyed with the crap. I've identifed the eight major "cults" and listed why they annoy me. If you're offended, well, too bad!

Greenies: Relentlessly super high-and-mighty, extreme superiority complex, constantly bashes all other lineups.

Chiffonheads: Extremely defensive, lashes out at everyone who disagrees with themselves, bordering on being a personality cult.

Buckyheads: "Oh, he's the ultimate genius! Everything he does is absolutely amazing, Fleetwood Mac would be lost without him, he produces and arranges everything they do!" ad nausem.

Sugar Daddies: Consistently snooty and uptight, tells everyone to stop being fanboys and girls even when they themselves are.

Peter Who? Pretends that Fleetwood Mac only existed from 1975 to 1987 and 1997 to the present.

Hangars-On: Criticizes every single bowel Fleetwood Mac has performed since 1982, but calls themselves fans anyway.

General fanboy/fangirl: Loves everything Fleetwood Mac has ever done , but won't admit that they've done some bad songs in the past. Usually spastic.

SortaSavageLike: Seems like a pretty average fan, but borderline schizophrenic. What's with the 2,000 word reviews and the boob jokes?

[goldustsongbird]

LASHES OUT?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN LASHES OUT!?!?!?? I'LL RIP YOUR HEAD OFF WITH MY SHAWL!!!!

*cough*

Actually, I don't think I fit into any of those groups. I'm fairly neutral when it comes to FM now.

[foxyluva]

Actually, I don't think I fit into any of those groups.

I don't think I do either - I could possibly be a chiffonhead, but I don't lash out - Im friends with Miss Vicky for goodness sake :lol:

[goldustsongbird]

I don't think I do either - I could possibly be a chiffonhead, but I don't lash out - Im friends with Miss Vicky for goodness sake :lol:

Heehee. Yeah, I really have no idea. I like them all well enough, but as far as worshiping Stevie, Chris, Lindsey or anyone else... I think I'm pretty much past the extreme adoration stage.

[foxyluva]

Heehee. Yeah, I really have no idea. I like them all well enough, but as far as worshiping Stevie, Chris, Lindsey or anyone else... I think I'm pretty much past the extreme adoration stage.

Im probably a cross between a chiffonhead and a peter who? :laugh: - although I do occasionally acknowledge the existance of 'Behind the Mask' :D

[estranged4life]

those dreaded chiffonheads...Their 'devotion' is very akin to those Trekkers of Star Trek fandom.

[Miss Vicky]

Im friends with Miss Vicky for goodness sake :lol:

And what is that supposed to mean?

BTW... I was thinking of replacing the 'Teapot Dance' icon with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/ledgepics/goatstevie.GIF



You like?

[Aisling]

let the sh*t stirring begin!! actually i think this post is hilarious because it's true. leave it to fleetwood mac to polarize its fan base to such an extent. :laugh: tho i never comment on it, it drives me absolutely crazy when i witness the extremities so neatly described above.

and as for being snooty and uptight. . .i prefer to think of myself as classy and aloof! :laugh:

[foxyluva]

And what is that supposed to mean?

It meant that if I was a chiffonhead - according to this I would lash out at people who didn't like what I like.....


BTW... I was thinking of replacing the 'Teapot Dance' icon with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/ledgepics/goatstevie.GIF

You like?

Dont you DARE :laugh:

I actually recoiled in horror when I saw that :lol:

[Miss Vicky]

It meant that if I was a chiffonhead - according to this I would lash out at people who didn't like what I like.....

I know. I'm just picking on you.



I actually recoiled in horror when I saw that :lol:

I find it rather less horrifying than the original un-doctored photo. At least the goat's kind of cute. :shrug:

[foxyluva]

I find it rather less horrifying than the original un-doctored photo. At least the goat's kind of cute. :shrug:

You are such a bitch :lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

See? Like goddamned chimpanzees in a cage! :rolleyes:

[Miss Vicky]

You are such a bitch :lol:

I try. :angel:

See? Like goddamned chimpanzees in a cage! :rolleyes:

Do you mean of the forgotten variety?

EDIT: BTW. I love your signature banner. Just like the goat, it reminds me of the way Stevie sings.

[foxyluva]

Do you mean of the forgotten variety?

:lol: I bet Stevie wishes that song never saw the light of day.......

[Miss Vicky]

:lol: I bet Stevie wishes that song never saw the light of day.......

If so, she's not alone.

[Johnny Stew]

See? Like goddamned chimpanzees in a cage! :rolleyes:Someone could do a really interesting psychoanalysis of Mac fans if they wanted to. :shocked:

By the way, you forgot to include my favorite faction... the folks who never fail to mention they're "over" Stevie and yet never stop talking about her (or including her in their signatures!). They're the most intriguing of the bunch. ;)

[foxyluva]

If so, she's not alone.

Even I have to agree with you on that - its probably my least favourite song Stevie ever did and ever will do

"The Forgotten Chimpanzee" :rolleyes:

[Miss Vicky]

By the way, you forgot to include my favorite faction... the folks who never fail to mention they're "over" Stevie and yet never stop talking about her (or including her in their signatures!). They're the most intriguing of the bunch. ;)

Hey, that's my favorite faction, too! :D

[foxyluva]

Hey, that's my favorite faction, too! :D

Sounds alot like yourself Victoria.....

[carrie721]

Actually, I don't think I fit into any of those groups. I'm fairly neutral when it comes to FM now.

I almost second this :laugh: . Stevie's my favorite, but I'm not a chiffonhead. I enjoy pre-and post-BN FM, I know who Peter Green is, and I like SortaSavageLike :laugh: So what am I?? My god, someone better tell me before I have an identity crisis!

[Miss Vicky]

Sounds alot like yourself Victoria.....

I wonder why that is? :shrug:

One should note, however, that Stevie is no longer in my signature. Also, even I am not brave enough to actually attach the goat pic to all of my posts. It was only a joke.

[foxyluva]

One should note, however, that Stevie is no longer in my signature. Also, even I am not brave enough to actually attach the goat pic to all of my posts. It was only a joke.

Of course it was only a joke - I have seen you do and say much worse than that goat pic :lol:

[Miss Vicky]

Hmm... judging by SortaSavageLike's new signature banner, it looks like I may have made a new friend. ;)





I rather liked Elmer better.

[SortaSavageLike]

The intense ironicallism of this whole excercise is killing me! :rolleyes:

Hey look, I'm a sugar daddy! Look at my bouncy smiley! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[goldustsongbird]

I almost second this :laugh: . Stevie's my favorite, but I'm not a chiffonhead. I enjoy pre-and post-BN FM, I know who Peter Green is, and I like SortaSavageLike :laugh: So what am I?? My god, someone better tell me before I have an identity crisis!

Almost a breaaaakdoooooown...

Yeah, I dunno. I used to have bursts of extreme fan-ness for Stevie or Chris, but not so much anymore.

[David]

Hmm.......I think I'm a hanger-on with qualifications, I would say a hanger-on in overall spirit.
Hmmm......several of these factions bug me but I voted for the "general fanboy/fangirl" faction as bugging me the buggiest.:eek: I hate the newer fans. But hmmm..... I hate the old fans too. :shocked:

I think I hate everybody! :thumbsup:

[xxxmx]

i went with the greenie fanatics. he did write a few good songs, but i would rather listen to Jane on repeat ad infinitum before moseying over to put on Then Play On or English Rose. but that's what makes me a chiffonhead (minus the lashing out part)... :wavey:

[HomerMcvie]

There really wasn't a "Bob Welch years" category, although I DON'T mean just Bob! MTM is better than anything The Old Tank and The Whiner, have ever done.
Hmm.......I think I'm a hanger-on with qualifications, I would say a hanger-on in overall spirit.
Hmmm......several of these factions bug me but I voted for the "general fanboy/fangirl" faction as bugging me the buggiest.:eek: I hate the newer fans. But hmmm..... I hate the old fans too. :shocked:

I think I hate everybody! :thumbsup:
I'm completely with you on the new fans!!! I'll take Peter's old blues guys over the 16yo's, ANY DAY. EVERY DAY.



(and people wonder why I don't like kids!):] :] :]


Hey David, how did your colonoscopy go? Hopefully okay!:angel:

[xdreamsunwindx]

Where's the "all of the above?" option?

[xdreamsunwindx]

I'm completely with you on the new fans!!! I'll take Peter's old blues guys over the 16yo's, ANY DAY. EVERY DAY.

Watch it, buddy.

I've been here for three years, since I was 13, and I can tell you this much: it's not about age as much as it is about maturity level. There are 30-somethings on this board who have the mentality of toddlers, and there are 16 year-olds that are wise well beyond their years. And vice-versa. And hey, I bet money that there are even some 16 year-old Green fans with sticks up their asses, so there you go.

Contrary to popular belief, not all of the younger members of this board are taken~ by the wind~~*~~ and tYpE lYk DiS LOLOLOL. Are there some? Of course. But we're not all like that. If you're basing your opinion on those kinds of things, then you might as well include all windchildren.

Oh, and I went with the "Sugar Daddies." I'm as pretentious as they come, but, seriously? It's Fleetwood Mac. No reason to be uptight.

I hate the newer fans. But hmmm..... I hate the old fans too. :shocked:

I think I hate everybody! :thumbsup:

Hey, me too! AWESOME!

[shackin'up]

I'm above this all.
















.....but voted for the chiffonheads anyway!:lol:

[irishgrl]

those dreaded chiffonheads...Their 'devotion' is very akin to those Trekkers of Star Trek fandom.
and whats WRONG with being a Trekker I wanna know? :p

[danax6]

It's a tie between the hanger-on's and the fanboys and girls... :wavey:

[madformac]

those dreaded chiffonheads...Their 'devotion' is very akin to those Trekkers of Star Trek fandom.

Got to agree with you there Brian. Nothing worse. I don't think some of them really like the music at all, they just buy into the concept of the dress and behaviour code.

Ah yes the ****onheads, oops, I mean chiffonheads.. :D :wavey:

If anything I'm probably a borderline Greenie with a small percentage of Buckyhead I guess. :(

[Gailh]

Sugar Daddies? does that mean Christine's fans? Good name.

Gail

[SortaSavageLike]

My good sirs!

I so dearly ask forgiveness for creating such a right ruckus. My demeanor is damned uncalled for in this enchanting forum, which is most rightfully arrogated for discussions apropos Fleetwood Mac. Now, if you gentlemen will excuse me, I will take punctual leave, during which I will sample the peerless wines of Europe whilst listening to Warm Ways in a perpetual loop, till I become fatigued and proceed to layeth atop my berth.

Good day!

[DestinyRules]

I've changed somewhat in my FM fandom. I used to be just a complete Stevie-can-do-no-wrong chiffonhead. Now I find myself being critical when I feel she needs to be ripped but I also praise her when that's due. In my Burnish days, a Lindsey fan and a Christine fan were my biggest ally and my closest friend.

The people I find irritating are those who appear in the fan gathering of one member to rip him or her to shreds. If you don't like Stevie Nicks, stay out of her fan community! If you can't stand Lindsey Buckingham, don't troll his forum!

[JazmenFlowers]

well well well...look at what's got the most votes. :wavey: I make no apologies for my love of God, I mean, Stevie.

I voted for hangers-on.

[TwistedGypsy]

I voted for "Peter Who?". I don't think there would be FM if it wasn't for Peter. And not just for Peter, what about Kirwan and Spencer?
Close seconds would be Chiffonheads, but for me actually the people who attempt to wear the chiffon a la Stevie. Leave the witchy clothes to Stevie please. Then come the Hangars-On and then General Fan Boy/Girl. I myself would probably fall in the General FanGirl faction. But the only difference I know they had some crap along the way.

[jannieC]

I have been defending my love of Stevie for YEARS. Outside the fan community (ie, in real life) and here in the fan community. So, I'm kind of a pro at being a chiffonhead. That being said, I am the first to admit when Stevie lets me down (which she has over the last few years). So, while I don't think she is utter perfection, I will always worship her, in spite of what is considered "cool" or, whatever. A few people bashing her in a fan forum is nothing compared to listening to someone imitate her in the goat voice- it's so original!

[JazmenFlowers]

A few people bashing her in a fan forum is nothing compared to listening to someone imitate her in the goat voice- it's so original!
I know, right!

[Miss Vicky]

well well well...look at what's got the most votes.

Almost half of them, actually. Wow. One of those votes is mine, but it was a tough choice between chiffonheads and Sugar-daddies (they can be a really vicious lot).

Though, in actuality, the one faction I find more annoying (and disturbing) than any other are the hard-core shippers. :eek:

[madformac]

I have been defending my love of Stevie for YEARS. Outside the fan community (ie, in real life) and here in the fan community. So, I'm kind of a pro at being a chiffonhead. That being said, I am the first to admit when Stevie lets me down (which she has over the last few years).

See I don't think that makes you a chiffonhead. You love Stevie Nicks and her music but you can criticize her mistakes with an open mind and a third person perspective. That makes you a devoted and loyal fan not a nutjob.

A chiffonhead is the Fleetwood Mac equivilent of an idealogical extremist. A musical Al Queda, a Taleban of the rock fan world if you will. They don't understand what the hell they are fighting for but will defend it to the end for no apparent reason. They resort to name calling and abuse if you even dare to question them. I don't think its truly about Stevie Nicks or her music. I think they need a forum to vent and a target audience for it. Every forum has these, I would say, passionate people. Maybe too passionate about their cause to see the bigger picture. So they choose a subject or figure, usually a politician, rock star or movie personality to defend with this passion.

But hey, its better than terrorism right? :nod: :wavey:

[jannieC]

Though, in actuality, the one faction I find more annoying (and disturbing) than any other are the hard-core shippers. :eek:
Ooh, okay- I am totally with you on this one! :nod:

See I don't think that makes you a chiffonhead. You love Stevie Nicks and her music but you can criticize her mistakes with an open mind and a third person perspective. That makes you a devoted and loyal fan not a nutjob.
Maybe I'm SEMI-chiffonish then. Because I am the only one that can say something unflattering against Stevie- but I don't want to hear it from anyone else! Haha- okay, that's not really true.

A chiffonhead is the Fleetwood Mac equivilent of an idealogical extremist. A musical Al Queda, a Taleban of the rock fan world if you will. They don't understand what the hell they are fighting for but will defend it to the end for no apparent reason. They resort to name calling and abuse if you even dare to question them. I don't think its truly about Stevie Nicks or her music. I think they need a forum to vent and a target audience for it. Every forum has these, I would say, passionate people. Maybe too passionate about their cause to see the bigger picture. So they choose a subject or figure, usually a politician, rock star or movie personality to defend with this passion.

But hey, its better than terrorism right? :nod: :wavey:
I'm definitely not that, and don't know anyone who is, thankfully. :)

[madformac]

I'm definitely not that, and don't know anyone who is, thankfully. :)

I don't either. But I've bumped into at least a couple on this forum over the years. I wouldn't want them to be licensed to carry a firearm.. :shocked: :lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

Ooh, okay- I am totally with you on this one! :nod:


Maybe I'm SEMI-chiffonish then.


I'm more of a platform boots and beret kind of guy. And whatever her old Edge shawl was made out of. I could massage that thing for hours. Oh and lace, lots of lace.

Not that I have any experience with that kind of stuff. :D

[Johnny Stew]

well well well...look at what's got the most votes.Chiffonheads have the most concentrated amount of votes, but the other factions combined have more votes overall (albeit by a slight margin). ;)

I have to admit that the most militant of Chiffonheads tend to make me cringe the most (or just Chiffonheads in general, as David O. explained to me a while back that the term really wasn't meant to describe ALL Nicks fans, only those who are the most truculent), as I think a rational debate is always better than a knee-jerk, "but she's a GODDESS" rebuttal. However, I still maintain that they're truly no worse than the most vocal of the other fan factions, as they can all seem like irrational dolts from time to time.

But as annoying as those various factions can be, I think they ultimately cancel each other out... so I voted for the "hangers on." Possessing a discerning eye/ear is always a good thing, but once you've turned into a parody of Statler & Waldorf, it's time to move on.

[skcin]

I went with the Chiffonheads, but I feel I must clarify. I define Chiffonhead as someone who refuses to admit that Stevie's ever recorded a bad song, or think she hasn't ever made a mistake, or that her poo doesn't smell. I mean, I know her poo has glitter & sparkles in it, but I'm sure it smells.

The Greenies were a very close second. I'm sure one of them will be along shortly to tell me I should have picked them & that I have no taste. :rolleyes:

[amber]

The Greenies were a very close second. I'm sure one of them will be along shortly to tell me I should have picked them & that I have no taste. :rolleyes:
That's why I picked them, is because they can't just like
Green, they have to badmouth the others.

[Mari]

oh shoot, I'm a hanger-on:lol:
I went with Peter Who? since chiffonheads would be so obvious :p
Anyway, where's the psycho-fan category?

[madformac]

That's why I picked them, is because they can't just like
Green, they have to badmouth the others.


What you talkin 'bout Willis??

I like others, not just Green.. Blue for instance is a great colour.. Now if you mix Green with the Blues you get something great.. :blob1: :laugh:

Stevie has glitter in her crap? ooh interesting diet. Lindsey has never had a crap since he is so anally retentive.. :p

Truth is I like 'em all equally, but Greeny and John just a bit more.

Actually, I notice there isn't a John McVie catagory. Thats 'cos John's fans are too cool to answer such a thread I bet. :cool:

[madformac]

Anyway, where's the psycho-fan category?

Do you mean Gerald or Chili ??? :p

[BombaySapphire3]

Anyway, where's the psycho-fan category?
Hmmm maybe back at the ranch?:lol:

[amber]

What you talkin 'bout Willis??

I like others, not just Green.. Blue for instance is a great colour.. Now if you mix Green with the Blues you get something great.. :blob1: :laugh:

Stevie has glitter in her crap? ooh interesting diet. Lindsey has never had a crap since he is so anally retentive.. :p

Truth is I like 'em all equally, but Greeny and John just a bit more.

Actually, I notice there isn't a John McVie catagory. Thats 'cos John's fans are too cool to answer such a thread I bet. :cool:

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about "people" who say things like "Lindsey Buckingham ruined Fleetwood Mac!"

[BlackWidow]

That's why I picked them, is because they can't just like
Green, they have to badmouth the others.
so true kiddo!
Greenies are The Worst...

[hayley]

I voted Sugar Daddies. I'm a smart girl, and a longtime fan of all the incarnations of the band except the post TITN lineups. But I don't like the vast majority of Chris's songs. I skip past them. Always. And that's okay. What I don't like are the people who think I'm nuts for it and try to reform me. Quit it. "Isn't it Midnight" sucks. I don't even like "You Make Loving Fun."

And no, I won't listen to "Nights in Estoril" and change my mind. EVER.

[xdreamsunwindx]

I voted Sugar Daddies. I'm a smart girl, and a longtime fan of all the incarnations of the band except the post TITN lineups. But I don't like the vast majority of Chris's songs. I skip past them. Always. And that's okay. What I don't like are the people who think I'm nuts for it and try to reform me. Quit it. "Isn't it Midnight" sucks. I don't even like "You Make Loving Fun."

And no, I won't listen to "Nights in Estoril" and change my mind. EVER.

HAYLEY SPEAKZ TRUFZ.

Though I like Christine, just mostly her material pre-Rumours up to Tusk. Really, I just like her witty English-ness.

[amber]

I voted Sugar Daddies. I'm a smart girl, and a longtime fan of all the incarnations of the band except the post TITN lineups. But I don't like the vast majority of Chris's songs. I skip past them. Always. And that's okay. What I don't like are the people who think I'm nuts for it and try to reform me. Quit it. "Isn't it Midnight" sucks. I don't even like "You Make Loving Fun."

And no, I won't listen to "Nights in Estoril" and change my mind. EVER.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I like Chris okay, but that was funny. She is usually my most skipped as well, but I still like her.

[skcin]

I voted Sugar Daddies. I'm a smart girl, and a longtime fan of all the incarnations of the band except the post TITN lineups. But I don't like the vast majority of Chris's songs. I skip past them. Always. And that's okay. What I don't like are the people who think I'm nuts for it and try to reform me. Quit it. "Isn't it Midnight" sucks. I don't even like "You Make Loving Fun."

And no, I won't listen to "Nights in Estoril" and change my mind. EVER.


I'm going to start quoting the above next time someone says I'm an idiot for not liking a song. If necessary, I'll just take out Chris' name & insert Peter's or Bob's or Billy's or whoever.

[chiliD]

Where's the "all of the above" choice? :shrug:

[foxyluva]

I voted Sugar Daddies. I'm a smart girl, and a longtime fan of all the incarnations of the band except the post TITN lineups. But I don't like the vast majority of Chris's songs. I skip past them. Always. And that's okay. What I don't like are the people who think I'm nuts for it and try to reform me. Quit it. "Isn't it Midnight" sucks. I don't even like "You Make Loving Fun."

And no, I won't listen to "Nights in Estoril" and change my mind. EVER.

Seriously? :confused: I think you may be the first person to ever say "Isn't it Midnight" sucks........

[hayley]

Seriously? :confused: I think you may be the first person to ever say "Isn't it Midnight" sucks........
It sounds like a deodorant commercial.

[foxyluva]

It sounds like a deodorant commercial.

Umm, okay :rolleyes:

I didn't realise that deodorant commercials had there own 'sound', and how "Isn't it Midnight" fits into this 'sound' is confusing to say the least.......

[hayley]

Umm, okay :rolleyes:

I didn't realise that deodorant commercials had there own 'sound', and how "Isn't it Midnight" fits into this 'sound' is confusing to say the least.......
TITN was my first album, when I was five years old. I don't remember what the commercial was that was on at the time, but there was one that had "Simply Irresistible"-esque chicks looking at the camera with Vogue faces with a song in the background that sounded like Isn't It Midnight. I've always associated them together.

Everytime I hear the song, I want to either dry my armpits off or watch something like Top Gun. It's not pleasant, either way.

[aleuzzi]

Funny post. I voted for the Hangars...

Why can't we all get along? Why can't there be world peace? Seriously, no matter how "annoying" each faction might be, the truth is what makes FM great is its broad appeal--and the fact that such a variety of talent has flourished under that battle standard.

People say "I hate Chris." Well, then you hate the Mac--as a band. People say "I hate Stevie." Ditto. You can't separate these elements. And the band members themselves would never dream of doing this. So why do we?

[wondergirl9847]

I wanted to vote for those Brunning-ites but they aren't up there. Those fanatics get on my LAST nerve. It's always Bob this and Bob that. If Bob hadn't played with them for those 5 minutes, they would have NEVER become the FM we all know and love. Bob saved the band from extinction...yada, yada, yada.

Sheesh, it never ends with those people. :rolleyes:

[michelle2677]

I voted for Hangar-ons because I'm tired of listening to people bitch about them "not being good enough" or "not as good as they used to be" blah blah.



the only thing I don't understand is why so much hatred for the young fans. I've just always been thrilled that there are so many young people who like Fleetwood Mac. If only the young farts liked the Mac, their music may not have much longevity after we are gone :thumbsup:

on edit-I'm a chiffonhead....but not the "lashing out" type :laugh: but am not surprised to see which group is....losing....

[JazmenFlowers]

I went with the Chiffonheads, but I feel I must clarify. I define Chiffonhead as someone who refuses to admit that Stevie's ever recorded a bad song, or think she hasn't ever made a mistake, or that her poo doesn't smell. I mean, I know her poo has glitter & sparkles in it, but I'm sure it smells.

The Greenies were a very close second. I'm sure one of them will be along shortly to tell me I should have picked them & that I have no taste. :rolleyes:
so, for instance, saying I'd wash my face with her dirty undies...would that qualify?



:p

[David]

I don't even like "You Make Loving Fun."
You hurt me. You hurt me deeply. I bleed, babooshka. :mad: :mad:
Anger gnaws at my gut.

[David]

the only thing I don't understand is why so much hatred for the young fans.
I hate them. I wish they'd fetch up.:] :]

Hayley was cute when she was younger, but now I just see red because she hates "You Make Loving Fun."

[goldustsongbird]

btw, I totally thought the title was "Most annoying fanfiction".
I was like, "Fanfic? For FM?"

[BlackWidow]

I hate them. I wish they'd fetch up.:] :]

Hayley was cute when she was younger, but now I just see red because she hates "You Make Loving Fun."
They are just uneducated..forgive them..they no not what they speak.:laugh:
They will always live vicariously thru us..much like Vanessa...LOL!

[DrummerDeanna]

btw, I totally thought the title was "Most annoying fanfiction".
I was like, "Fanfic? For FM?"


That's what I though too :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

so, for instance, saying I'd wash my face with her dirty undies...would that qualify?



:p
PERV......:eek:

[SortaSavageLike]

I hate them. I wish they'd fetch up.:] :]

Hayley was cute when she was younger, but now I just see red because she hates "You Make Loving Fun."

I think she meant to say she hated YMLF from The Dance. I can't believe how many people like that version better than the Rumours version.

Funk a Little, people! :lol:

[BlackWidow]

And what is that supposed to mean?

BTW... I was thinking of replacing the 'Teapot Dance' icon with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/ledgepics/goatstevie.GIF



You like?
You wouldn't dare Bitch!

[Johnny Stew]

You wouldn't dare Bitch!I'm assuming you're just trying to kid around, but please watch when calling someone a "bitch" -- it can very easily be taken as a personal insult, which is against our guidelines.

Thanks.

[Johnny Stew]

And no, I won't listen to "Nights in Estoril" and change my mind. EVER.You cut me to the quick, Hayley... that is one of my all-time favorite Christine songs. In fact, it's one of my all-time favorite songs, period.

[BlackWidow]

I'm assuming you're just trying to kid around, but please watch when calling someone a "bitch" -- it can very easily be taken as a personal insult, which is against our guidelines.

Thanks.
Of course I was kidding..you know me.:wavey:

[DestinyRules]

I'm assuming you're just trying to kid around, but please watch when calling someone a "bitch" -- it can very easily be taken as a personal insult, which is against our guidelines.

Thanks.
I've seen a LOT of "personal insults" on this board just simply get ignored. What makes this one any different? :rolleyes:

[SteveMacD]

I'm somewhere between Hangar-On and General fanboy. I don't always like what they do, and can usually point to a lot of mistakes, both musical and business, the band's made over the years. Still, I keep coming back.

[strandinthewind]

Of course I was kidding..you know me.:wavey:

I prefer beeeyotch :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Who is beeeyotch - WHO? - AHHHH if you know, tell her - tell her now - AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ---- TELL HER NOW

[Johnny Stew]

I've seen a LOT of "personal insults" on this board just simply get ignored. What makes this one any different? :rolleyes:Admittedly, "personal insult" can be a bit of a grey area. The majority of our regular posters are friends though and will sometimes call each other "bitch," etc., in a joking fashion. However, when a term like that is used between two users who aren't friends, then it comes across much differently and raises a flag.

I'd like to add that, while it may appear that other "personal insults" go ignored, we often contact the party/parties via Private Message. Since it's done in private, I guess it can be misconstrued as being ignored.
In this particular situation, since the tone of the post was difficult to determine, I felt I should comment in the thread before there was the chance for an argument to break out.

I hope that clears things up. :)

[goldustsongbird]

That's what I though too :laugh:

Good, so I know I'm not the only one who needs new glasses! I have seen FM fanfic, though. Scary, I know. :\

[Miss Vicky]

You wouldn't dare Bitch!

Just a note:

I read through the entire thread before responding to this, so I did see your post explaining that the above statement was meant in jest - and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you aren't just saying that to cover your ass - but I'd like to ask that, in the future, you refrain from doing this again.

You say that JohnnyStew "knows you" and therefore should know that you didn't mean any harm (although he was still obviously unsure) but I don't know you and you gave no indication in that post that you meant it as a joke. Now, I like to think that I have a good sense of humor and a pretty thick skin, but it is very very easy for things to be misinterpreted on a messageboard and my initial reaction was not this: :laugh:

[SortaSavageLike]

Good, so I know I'm not the only one who needs new glasses! I have seen FM fanfic, though. Scary, I know. :\

It's a Kirk/Spock/Mulder/Scully/Lindsey/Stevie shipper orgy! :]

[goldustsongbird]

It's a Kirk/Spock/Mulder/Scully/Lindsey/Stevie shipper orgy! :]

:laugh: Oh, god, X Files. Is there anything worse than xf fanfic?

[BlackWidow]

I prefer beeeyotch :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Who is beeeyotch - WHO? - AHHHH if you know, tell her - tell her now - AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ---- TELL HER NOW
My beautiful beeeyotch...lol.

[BlackWidow]

Just a note:

I read through the entire thread before responding to this, so I did see your post explaining that the above statement was meant in jest - and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you aren't just saying that to cover your ass - but I'd like to ask that, in the future, you refrain from doing this again.

You say that JohnnyStew "knows you" and therefore should know that you didn't mean any harm (although he was still obviously unsure) but I don't know you and you gave no indication in that post that you meant it as a joke. Now, I like to think that I have a good sense of humor and a pretty thick skin, but it is very very easy for things to be misinterpreted on a messageboard and my initial reaction was not this: :laugh:
I don't need to cover my ass.....:wavey:
Just havin' fun trying to out shock you..lol.

[MrsMcVie]

btw, I totally thought the title was "Most annoying fanfiction".
I was like, "Fanfic? For FM?"

Well, THAT could be interesting!:D

[Peestie]

What have people got against the younger fans? What do we do that makes us any worse than other age groups?

I'd say I'm a Buckyhead for sure, with a good dose of Greenie thrown in. Actually, I never seem to talk about Green here, but my friends are getting tired of "This guy is as highly regarded as Clapton!" etc.

[Miss Vicky]

Just havin' fun trying to out shock you..lol.

If you're going to try to beat me at my own game, you've got to play it the way I do, otherwise you're just playing a different game altogether. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

:laugh: Oh, god, X Files. Is there anything worse than xf fanfic?

Back off the X-files - beeyotch - oops - did I say that :eek:

[hayley]

I think she meant to say she hated YMLF from The Dance. I can't believe how many people like that version better than the Rumours version.

Funk a Little, people! :lol:
Nope! I hate them all! All!

David, I have always hated YMLF. Always. Don't pretend this is something new.

[SortaSavageLike]

Nope! I hate them all! All!

David, I have always hated YMLF. Always. Don't pretend this is something new.

No! You hate the Dance version! The Dance version! The Rumours version is mighty! Bow to the original!

(I know it's against the board rules, but I'm thinking of taking some X-files fanfic and replacing all the Mulder/Scully references and replacing them with Lindsey/Stevie references. :p)

[hayley]

No! You hate the Dance version! The Dance version! The Rumours version is mighty! Bow to the original!

(I know it's against the board rules, but I'm thinking of taking some X-files fanfic and replacing all the Mulder/Scully references and replacing them with Lindsey/Stevie references. :p)
I recognize the song's brilliance, I do- I just don't LIKE it.

And you don't need to do that... just post passages of the umpteen gazillion S/L fanfics already out there!

[lilymoon]

who wants to be a penguin-head like me? :blob1:

[madformac]

Ooh, its looking like a Chiffonhead Landslide....... :D :lol:

[BlackWidow]

Keep voting for Chiffonheads..It just proves we are the MAJORITY!
I think it's cool we have this profound effect on "the others"..lol!

[HomerMcvie]

You think it's cool that people find you the most annoying.

Yeah, that's cool.

[chiliD]

Ooh, its looking like a Chiffonhead Landslide....... :D :lol:


Nothing surprising there, now is it? :D

[strandinthewind]

Nothing surprising there, now is it? :D

Vito, Green, Spencer, and Welsh all SUCK A$$$ and LB is the true king of original work made glorious by his queen, La Nicks :wavey:

GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

[chiliD]

Vito, Green, Spencer, and Welsh all SUCK A$$$ and LB is the true king of original work made glorious by his queen, La Nicks :wavey:

GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

Well at least I can spell the band members names correctly...obviously, you can't.

[carrie721]

Well at least I can spell the band members names correctly...obviously, you can't.

They're too insignificant to have their names spelled right, duh! :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Well at least I can spell the band members names correctly...obviously, you can't.

LOL - I readily admit my spelling sucks AND I have tennis elbow in my right arm, so I am hunting and pecking with my left hand :eek:

Of course and to be pithy - the above named are so irrelevant that the exact spelling of their names was forgotten like them in about 1972 :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

They're too insignificant to have their names spelled right, duh! :lol:
Oops - there we go again!!!!!

Also - I am sure ChiliD knows we are ribbing him.

[carrie721]

Oops - there we go again!!!!!

Also - I am sure ChiliD knows we are ribbing him.

:laugh: Hope so, since I'm not even a chiffonhead, and have much love for PG. :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

:laugh: Hope so, since I'm not even a chiffonhead, and have much love for PG. :woohoo:

Me too and for that era as well. Interestingly, I think La Nicks' super nova popularity and simultaneous Americanization or so of the band was a good thing for their success and in terms of longevity. It does, though, take light off of the pre BN era.

[chiliD]

...AND I have tennis elbow in my right arm...


Oh, so THAT is what they're calling it nowadays.

[carrie721]

Me too and for that era as well. Interestingly, I think La Nicks' super nova popularity and simultaneous Americanization or so of the band was a good thing for their success and in terms of longevity. It does, though, take light off of the pre BN era.

Kind of a catch-22, no?

[strandinthewind]

Oh, so THAT is what they're calling it nowadays.

Where is that middle finger emoticon when I need it :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Kind of a catch-22, no?

Well, the Mac was very popular prior to then. I also think that the Mac may have continued, though to what end I am unsure as they were left with one singer songwriter who I think knew pretty much little about production and who eschewed the spotlight. So, it would have depended on the guitarist they hired as evidenced by the result of hiring LB. Like him or not, the first two records were brilliant and highly marketable.

[chiliD]

Where is that middle finger emoticon when I need it :laugh:


The sign of defeat when all you can do is resort to flipping a bird. :lol:

[strandinthewind]

The sign of defeat when all you can do is resort to flipping a bird. :lol:

Touche my friend touche

[shackin'up]

Vito, Green, Spencer, and Welsh all SUCK A$$$ and LB is the true king of original work made glorious by his queen, La Nicks :wavey:

GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

there's only one Welsh...and that's that Witch.

[SortaSavageLike]

Well, I certainly have carved out a sizable niche for myself, haven't I?

[Mari]

Do you mean Gerald or Chili ??? :p

:lol:

actually, see the post below yours!


Anyway, it's great to see that we hangers-on have managed to annoy quite a few people as well :p

[chiliD]

Touche my friend touche

I don't think you're using "touche" correctly...no, wait, that's a TV commercial. :laugh:

[David]

I would like to ask Which of the Fleetwood Macster's boogers would you eat if you had to ...er ... pick one?

It definitely would not be Green.

[chiliD]

those dreaded chiffonheads...Their 'devotion' is very akin to those Trekkers of Star Trek fandom.


Oh...I wouldn't diss Trekkies like that.;)

I would more accurately compare them to:

---Scientologists

---Jehovah's Witnesses

---Hari Krishnas

---Those who think George W. Bush is doing a good job as President

[BlackWidow]

They're too insignificant to have their names spelled right, duh! :lol:
You can say that again..add Krystine MacPhie too..LOL!

[BlackWidow]

I would like to ask Which of the Fleetwood Macster's boogers would you eat if you had to ...er ... pick one?

It definitely would not be Green.
YIKES!!!!!!

[BTFLCHLD]

You think it's cool that people find you the most annoying. Yeah, that's cool. Curious, how does it make you feel?

[HomerMcvie]

Curious, how does it make you feel?
It makes me feel all squishy inside. I like it alot!

[strandinthewind]

I would like to ask Which of the Fleetwood Macster's boogers would you eat if you had to ...er ... pick one?

It definitely would not be Green.

Whichever had the most hair :wavey:

[BlackWidow]

Curious, how does it make you feel?
Like a natural woman...:lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

Ooh, its looking like a Chiffonhead Landslide....... :D

Oddly enough, it still has the fewest number of electoral votes.

[shackin'up]

Oddly enough, it still has the fewest number of electoral votes.

ahhh.


so it doesnot count.


I see.

[BlackWidow]

ahhh.


so it doesnot count.


I see.
Chiffonheads are the Red States then....LOL! Majority Rules = Destiny Rules!

[HomerMcvie]

Chiffonheads are the Red States then....LOL! Majority Rules = Destiny Rules!
You, are trolling. Lessee, what is it that trolls around???

[jbrownsjr]

I would like to ask Which of the Fleetwood Macster's boogers would you eat if you had to ...er ... pick one?

It definitely would not be Green.

stevie's booger's would be the size of a quarter :laugh:

[skcin]

stevie's booger's would be the size of a quarter :laugh:


And it would have glitter & sparkles in it.

[jbrownsjr]

And it would have glitter & sparkles in it.

and gold dust

[Dreamz19]

LOL! Very interesting post. To be honest I don't really fall into any of the categories. The closest I would come to is maybe fanboy/fangirl because I am sorta a new fan but I have grown to love a lot of the lineups/albums pre/post BN. However, on the flip side there are also things the Mac has done that I don't like and I will admit it.Before I would have been one of those who thought Stevie Nicks was the best thing that has ever happened to FM. But I have grown out of that in the last 2 years even though she is still my favorite member.

Since I don't post much on the board but if I had to pick a group that bugged the hell out of me it would be the Greenie types. Not necessarily people who love the Peter Green lineup and hate the others...... but the people who have a stick up their ass and think they're more intelligent and superior than the newer fans. The whole purpose of joining this board was to learn more about FM and their music. As well as meeting people who love the band as much as I do. Instead ya get snotty remarks from a select few because your not as familiar with a lot about the group or you might make a mistake about something and you have a bunch of people telling you your not a real fan because you didn't know what the group ate on the morning of Oct 4,1976.

Ok I'm done venting....

[Dreamz19]

And what is that supposed to mean?

BTW... I was thinking of replacing the 'Teapot Dance' icon with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/ledgepics/goatstevie.GIF



You like?

OMG! As much as I adore Stevie that pic is hilarious :laugh:

[David]

Since I don't post much on the board but if I had to pick a group that bugged the hell out of me it would be the Greenie types. Not necessarily people who love the Peter Green lineup and hate the others...... but the people who have a stick up their ass and think they're more intelligent and superior than the newer fans. The whole purpose of joining this board was to learn more about FM and their music. As well as meeting people who love the band as much as I do. Instead ya get snotty remarks from a select few because your not as familiar with a lot about the group or you might make a mistake about something and you have a bunch of people telling you your not a real fan because you didn't know what the group ate on the morning of Oct 4,1976.
I hate those types, too! Those arrogant batards! :mad:

(Incidentally, they had cheese omelets & coffee.)

[danax6]

I hate those types, too! Those arrogant batards! :mad:

(Incidentally, they had cheese omelets & coffee.)Actually, it was the day after Lindsey's birthday, I think at least some of them needed something a little stronger to get their day started again. :laugh:

[michelle2677]

I hate them. I wish they'd fetch up.:] :]

Hayley was cute when she was younger, but now I just see red because she hates "You Make Loving Fun."


but why?? about the young ones. not about hayley.

sorry. i'm not crazy about the song either...although i don't hate it. :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

Since I don't post much on the board but if I had to pick a group that bugged the hell out of me it would be the Greenie types. Not necessarily people who love the Peter Green lineup and hate the others...... but the people who have a stick up their ass and think they're more intelligent and superior than the newer fans. The whole purpose of joining this board was to learn more about FM and their music. As well as meeting people who love the band as much as I do. Instead ya get snotty remarks from a select few because your not as familiar with a lot about the group or you might make a mistake about something and you have a bunch of people telling you your not a real fan because you didn't know what the group ate on the morning of Oct 4,1976.

Ok I'm done venting....That's something that really annoys me, too. No one is born knowing all there is to know about Fleetwood Mac and its 14 or 15 different lineups. When someone asks a question, or simply isn't familiar with a particular lineup, instead of making them feel foolish, we should enlighten them. Suggest a quintessential song or two. Explain what we love about that lineup. And so forth.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were quite a number of fans who've never bothered to explore beyond the Buckingham Nicks years because other fans put them off with their attitude.

[michelle2677]

That's something that really annoys me, too. No one is born knowing all there is to know about Fleetwood Mac and its 14 or 15 different lineups. When someone asks a question, or simply isn't familiar with a particular lineup, instead of making them feel foolish, we should enlighten them. Suggest a quintessential song or two. Explain what we love about that lineup. And so forth.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were quite a number of fans who've never bothered to explore beyond the Buckingham Nicks years because other fans put them off with their attitude.

I TOTALLY agree with this statement as well as Dreamz19.

I think we can all be a little annoying at times, but there is no reason to discredit someone's love for a band just because they don't know every thing there is to know. That is why I'm wanting to know why people have so much hatred for the younger group. I think it's wonderful :)

[HomerMcvie]

I TOTALLY agree with this statement as well as Dreamz19.

I think we can all be a little annoying at times, but there is no reason to discredit someone's love for a band just because they don't know every thing there is to know. That is why I'm wanting to know why people have so much hatred for the younger group. I think it's wonderful :)
Very true, BUT, the ones that come around saying, "MY lineup is the only one that matters", are truly the sh*t stirrers, IMO.

[strandinthewind]

Very true, BUT, the ones that come around saying, "MY lineup is the only one that matters", are truly the sh*t stirrers, IMO.

Let them hear, if they bother to look, "Why" one time and they will think Stevie who :nod:

[jbrownsjr]

what's really funny is how serious this board is... it's an internet group of friends to me... nothing anyone does here could get to me personally...

even black widow who is obnoxious as a porcipine in a balloon shop

did i spell porcipine correctly?

[HomerMcvie]

what's really funny is how serious this board is... it's an internet group of friends to me... nothing anyone does here could get to me personally...

That's why I like you. Nothing riles you up, and you like to poke fun at you know who!:lol: I think we have very similar senses of humor. Most of the time, you even "set me up" for the joke! Thanks!
even black widow who is obnoxious as a porcipine in a balloon shop

did i spell porcipine correctly?
Who cares(and I'm not talking about the porcupine)?:] :] :]

[Dreamz19]

I hate those types, too! Those arrogant batards! :mad:

Ya know it's not very nice to hate yourself :D

[David]

but why?? about the young ones. not about hayley.
Youth should be obscene & not heard.

[Dreamz19]

(Incidentally, they had cheese omelets & coffee.)

:laugh: I knew this was coming.

[David]

Ya know it's not very nice to hate yourself :D
I had a hunch you were talking about me.

[David]

I think we can all be a little annoying at times, but there is no reason to discredit someone's love for a band just because they don't know every thing there is to know.I don't recall this happening here. Could someone provide a reference to a specific post? My memory is affected by chronic illness.

[Dreamz19]

I had a hunch you were talking about me.

Yeah sorta, but you really weren't the main one. No hard feelings here though. I usually do like reading your post :)

[David]

Yeah sorta, but you really weren't the main one. No hard feelings here though. I usually do like reading your post.If you could cite a specific post of mine where I did this, I'd be grateful. I could go back & edit the offending statement & then apologize to the recipient. I feel just awful thinking I lambasted someone for not knowing some dumb little factoid about the band. I must have been out of my mind. What a ridiculous thing to yell at somebody for.

[Dreamz19]

If you could cite a specific post of mine where I did this, I'd be grateful. I could go back & edit the offending statement & then apologize to the recipient. I feel just awful thinking I lambasted someone for not knowing some dumb little factoid about the band. I must have been out of my mind. What a ridiculous thing to yell at somebody for.

David, I can't speak for the others but when I mentioned the thing about being put down for not knowing a certain fact about the band I wasn't referring to you. It was another poster on the board who was very rude to a poster who made a mistake once. So I am sorry for that misunderstanding on my part because that certainly wasn't directed at you. I just saw where you made comments about not liking newer and younger fans and I consider myself both (I'm 19). Unless when you mean younger you are speaking of posters under 17 or 16.

[amber]

I hate those types, too! Those arrogant batards! :mad:

(Incidentally, they had cheese omelets & coffee.)


How can bread slightly larger than a baguette be arrogant?

[jbrownsjr]

If you could cite a specific post of mine where I did this, I'd be grateful. I could go back & edit the offending statement & then apologize to the recipient. I feel just awful thinking I lambasted someone for not knowing some dumb little factoid about the band. I must have been out of my mind. What a ridiculous thing to yell at somebody for.


lolololol stop already!!!!

[pattymarkle]

The most annoying are the chiffon heads. I can say that because I am proudly one of them and I annoy myself. It's our job and we represent Stevie well.

However, I am personally more annoyed by the Greenies. I've seen it become almost a trend to say, "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac" with people describing favorite bands. I just read where Paul Rodgers said that and it bummed me out.

Patty

[chiliD]

I've seen it become almost a trend to say, "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac" with people describing favorite bands.

"trend", uh, no. From 1967-1969 that was the official name of the band.

[BlackWidow]

"trend", uh, no. From 1967-1969 that was the official name of the band.
That was then..this is now....:nod:

[JazmenFlowers]

That was then..this is now....:nod:
dre...are you trying to piss folks off? you're getting as bad as me. :p

[priestofnothing]

The group I get annoyed with isn't on the list, but it is a sub-group of the Chiffonheads and the Buckyheads I suppose.

Sorry, but the Shippers usually annoy me. Not so much when they talk about how they think Stevie and Lindsey should get back together romantically or how they are secretly seeing each other blah blah blah....

But when they talk about song interpretations and lyrics. Yes, Stevie wrote Dreams about Lindsey, and yes, Lindsey wrote GYOW about Stevie, and they were both big hits. But they both can and have written about other people and other things. Not every song Stevie writes is about Lindsey and vice-versa. They broke up 30 years ago, and Stevie can't even remember why. Get a grip shippers.

Also, people who are supposedly fans and spell Lindsey's name Lindsay. That really irks me to no end. Pick up an album or a CD or read something about the band. It's spelled Lindsey.

[chiliD]

Also, people who are supposedly fans and spell Lindsey's name Lindsay. That really irks me to no end. Pick up an album or a CD or read something about the band. It's spelled Lindsey.

Correct spellings of other band members' names who consistently get misspelled:

Billy Burnette (note trailing 'e' )
Danny Kirwan (not "Kirwin", "Kerwin" or "Kerwan")
Bekka Bramlett (note LACK of trailing 'e', note first name spelled with 'k's, not 'c's)
Bob Welch (not "Welsh" )


Also, those people who refer to Christine McVie as "Christy". She's NEVER gone by "Christy"...EVER! Either "Chris" or "Christine", that's it.

[Johnny Stew]

Also, those people who refer to Christine McVie as "Christy". She's NEVER gone by "Christy"...EVER! Either "Chris" or "Christine", that's it.Some of the MTV 'Week In Rock' interviews with FM from around 1987-1990, would often have Christine's name listed as "Christie McVie." That used to annoy me to no end.

As far as Lindsey's name, I think most people know a "Lindsay" and, out of habit, are used to typing or writing it with an "a" and not an "e," and that's why that misspelling crops up so often.

I can't tell you how many times I have to stop myself from typing "Stevie" when addressing a "Steve." :o

[DrummerDeanna]

But when they talk about song interpretations and lyrics. Yes, Stevie wrote Dreams about Lindsey, and yes, Lindsey wrote GYOW about Stevie, and they were both big hits. But they both can and have written about other people and other things. Not every song Stevie writes is about Lindsey and vice-versa. They broke up 30 years ago, and Stevie can't even remember why. Get a grip shippers.

.

:laugh: When I opened this I immediatley went to click on shippers then realized that option wasn't even there. But I'm with ya on that one.

I, too, get annoyed when people say every single Stevie song is about Lindsey - it's maddening.

[priestofnothing]

I can't tell you how many times I have to stop myself from typing "Stevie" when addressing a "Steve." :o

I do that all the time too, esp at work.

But once in my life I actually got to use it. My best friend in high school's little brother was named Steve. I guess he was probably 13 when I was about 16, so not that little, relatively speaking. But Joe's parent's called him Stevie, so once I heard that, that was it! He was Stevie to me from then on.

[strandinthewind]

. . . But when they talk about song interpretations and lyrics. Yes, Stevie wrote Dreams about Lindsey, and yes, Lindsey wrote GYOW about Stevie, and they were both big hits. But they both can and have written about other people and other things. Not every song Stevie writes is about Lindsey and vice-versa. They broke up 30 years ago, and Stevie can't even remember why. Get a grip shippers . . . .

I know of no shipper who asserts every song is about the other. Rather, most shippers I know - and there are few left around here - willingly acknowledge that many songs are about other people or things a la Illume, While Lotta Trouble, Leather and Lace, Rhiannon, etc. But, ya gotta admit, when La Nicks says not all but a bunch of songs on TISL are about LB, and TD and others on SYW are about him, it supports the shippers' point :shrug:

As for the speculation, it can get annoying. But, I suppose one must remember that many things are never discussed on this or any other board I know. Also, I have seen things with my own two eyes that people say I didn't see and they were not even there :laugh:

So, I take it all with a grain of salt.

[DavidMn]

I dont know what to make of all this. The way I look at it is if the song moves me, I dont give a **** if Peter Green, Bob Welch, Lindsey, Stevie, Christine, or whoever else recorded it. I dont like to limit myself in that way.

[jbrownsjr]

I dont know what to make of all this. The way I look at it is if the song moves me, I dont give a **** if Peter Green, Bob Welch, Lindsey, Stevie, Christine, or whoever else recorded it. I dont like to limit myself in that way.

that's why we love u :D

[Dreamz19]

Some of the MTV 'Week In Rock' interviews with FM from around 1987-1990, would often have Christine's name listed as "Christie McVie." That used to annoy me to no end.

As far as Lindsey's name, I think most people know a "Lindsay" and, out of habit, are used to typing or writing it with an "a" and not an "e," and that's why that misspelling crops up so often.

I can't tell you how many times I have to stop myself from typing "Stevie" when addressing a "Steve." :o

Thanks for saying this. I made a mistake and used an a instead of an e because I was not used to writing out Lindsey's name. I am used to spelling Lindsay because I have two friends with that name. I sure did learn never to make that mistake on here. On another board I saw a poster call somebody a bitch for using an a instead of an e. People like that need serious help if they feel the need to be that rude over a misspelling.

[Dreamz19]

I dont know what to make of all this. The way I look at it is if the song moves me, I dont give a **** if Peter Green, Bob Welch, Lindsey, Stevie, Christine, or whoever else recorded it. I dont like to limit myself in that way.

I love your way of thinking because I am the exact same way. Yes, at first I was all about Stevie's songs because she was the reason I became a fan of FM. But I have never debated which line up was the best or put down other members of the band. I enjoy/dislike songs from all of the lineups and I could care less about who wrote it or produced it.

[sodascouts]

I know of no shipper who asserts every song is about the other. Rather, most shippers I know - and there are few left around here - willingly acknowledge that many songs are about other people or things a la Illume, While Lotta Trouble, Leather and Lace, Rhiannon, etc. But, ya gotta admit, when La Nicks says not all but a bunch of songs on TISL are about LB, and TD and others on SYW are about him, it supports the shippers' point :shrug:

As for the speculation, it can get annoying. But, I suppose one must remember that many things are never discussed on this or any other board I know. Also, I have seen things with my own two eyes that people say I didn't see and they were not even there :laugh:

So, I take it all with a grain of salt.

Exactly, strand. No one believes that every song Stevie writes is about Lindsey or vice versa, but whenever someone talks about how superior they are to "shippers" they almost inevitably use this as their justification. I guess setting up a straw man with an exaggerated mischaracterization is easier than actually addressing specific realistic points of dissent.

[SteveMacD]

"trend", uh, no. From 1967-1969 that was the official name of the band.

I thought they were just going by Fleetwood Mac shortly after the first album was released. (Probably to save money on ink...)

[JunkFoodGenius]

Crunchy Christlike toast...this is an education. I've been a serious fan without a community for ten years...I just got on boards and groups early last year. I had no clue about any of these goings on. I shouldn't be surprised, but I guess when you're the only one in your friends who's a fan and you get to the point where you'll settle for someone who thinks that that Seventeen song from School of Rock is a cool song to get your geek on with...and I so want to get my geek on...

Spelling of names - not here, but in general for me - are an annoyance. And thanks to this modern age where people are naming their kids Alesin and Q*Bert, it's just going to be more messed up. Traditionally, Lindsay's are female and Lindsey's are male. I'm picky on the spelling of names because my name is Neva and it's constantly being written as Nina, Nora, Neve, Norma, etc. And it will never be Niva.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm picky on the spelling of names because my name is Neva and it's constantly being written as Nina, Nora, Neve, Norma, etc. And it will never be Niva.

thats a pretty legit reason to get annoyed :nod:

[David]

Crunchy Christlike toast...this is an education. I've been a serious fan without a community for ten years...I just got on boards and groups early last year. I had no clue about any of these goings on.
I became aware of the sectarianism among those who claimed they like Fleetwood Mac almost as soon as I considered myself a Fleetwood fan. Although the delineations presented here don't exactly match what I remember, the general principles are similar: the anti-pop contingent, the airhead contingent, the anti-airhead contingent, the commerce-is-king contingent, the blues-is-the-dope contingent, etc.

Most of my life, I've been able to nicely sidestep the extremists, thanks to my abiding grasp of aesthetics & my background in music theory & history.

[chiliD]

Most of my life, I've been able to nicely sidestep the extremists, thanks to my abiding grasp of aesthetics & my background in music theory & history.

"Sidestep" my ass, you dive headfirst into the deep end. :nod:

[skcin]

Crunchy Christlike toast...this is an education. I've been a serious fan without a community for ten years...I just got on boards and groups early last year. I had no clue about any of these goings on. I shouldn't be surprised, but I guess when you're the only one in your friends who's a fan and you get to the point where you'll settle for someone who thinks that that Seventeen song from School of Rock is a cool song to get your geek on with...and I so want to get my geek on...

Spelling of names - not here, but in general for me - are an annoyance. And thanks to this modern age where people are naming their kids Alesin and Q*Bert, it's just going to be more messed up. Traditionally, Lindsay's are female and Lindsey's are male. I'm picky on the spelling of names because my name is Neva and it's constantly being written as Nina, Nora, Neve, Norma, etc. And it will never be Niva.



HA! Q*Bert.

[gypsysoul]

Like junkfoodgenius I had no idea there were factions amongst the fans until I joined this board.

I wonder what some fans might have said if this thread had been about the 'hierarchy' of the factions.

I expect someone like me who is still learning about the band would be pretty low down on the food chain:D

[BlackWidow]

Like junkfoodgenius I had no idea there were factions amongst the fans until I joined this board.

I wonder what some fans might have said if this thread had been about the 'hierarchy' of the factions.

I expect someone like me who is still learning about the band would be pretty low down on the food chain:D
The only real HIERACHY is the Buckingham/Nicks Faction.
Everything else is just the tired old past....:wavey:

[DavidMn]

I love your way of thinking because I am the exact same way. Yes, at first I was all about Stevie's songs because she was the reason I became a fan of FM. But I have never debated which line up was the best or put down other members of the band. I enjoy/dislike songs from all of the lineups and I could care less about who wrote it or produced it.Thankyou for the compliment.:)

[chiliD]

The only real HIERACHY is the Buckingham/Nicks Faction.
Everything else is just the tired old past....:wavey:


They're the CANCER of all Fleetwood Mac-dom. Rid the cancer!

[DavidMn]

They're the CANCER of all Fleetwood Mac-dom. Rid the cancer!You go dude!:thumbsup:

[BTFLCHLD]

Guess who I voted for!?? :laugh:

[DavidMn]

Guess who I voted for!?? :laugh:Me I hope.....:lol:

[michelle2677]

I don't recall this happening here. Could someone provide a reference to a specific post? My memory is affected by chronic illness.

I do not have a specific quote on hand, and can only get on the internet at the library, so I'm not going to spend my time looking (only have an hour :mad: ) but if I have more time another day, or come across one, you'll definately be the first to know. by the way- I wasn't talking about you.

[michelle2677]

I know of no shipper who asserts every song is about the other. Rather, most shippers I know - and there are few left around here - willingly acknowledge that many songs are about other people or things a la Illume, While Lotta Trouble, Leather and Lace, Rhiannon, etc. But, ya gotta admit, when La Nicks says not all but a bunch of songs on TISL are about LB, and TD and others on SYW are about him, it supports the shippers' point :shrug:

As for the speculation, it can get annoying. But, I suppose one must remember that many things are never discussed on this or any other board I know. Also, I have seen things with my own two eyes that people say I didn't see and they were not even there :laugh:

So, I take it all with a grain of salt.

Theeeere you go again strand...starting sh*t..heee hee...(btw....that was seriously a joking tone :) )

You mean Stevie didn't write WLT, Leather and Lace, andIllume ( I know she said it was about 9/11..but whatever..what does she know??:lol: ) were not about Lindsey?? I could have sworn it was. My little shipper heart can't take this!!!:wavey:


anyways-I am a proud shipper, but that doesn't mean I think EVERY single note stevie ever put out was written about Liddy. I just think it's important for people to know that not every shipper is annoying...(well....of course I'm talking about some other shipper...:laugh: .....I guess I can be pretty annoying somtimes :o ) and isnt' completely rabid over Lindsey and Stevie re-uniting....



although what a fine day that would be....:thumbsup:

[Dreamz19]

Thankyou for the compliment.:)

Your very welcome :]

[David]

I do not have a specific quote on hand, and can only get on the internet at the library, so I'm not going to spend my time looking (only have an hour :mad: ) but if I have more time another day, or come across one, you'll definately be the first to know. by the way- I wasn't talking about you.
Well, I hope you'll forgive me, because I'm a little gun-shy. I'm so used to having other ledgies accuse me--totally groundlessly--of being mean to other fans because of what they "know" or don't "know," as if I gave a **** who knew what or didn't know what or how any of that is relevant to my recreation or enjoyment.

[Johnny Stew]

Well, I hope you'll forgive me, because I'm a little gun-shy. I'm so used to having other ledgies accuse me--totally groundlessly--of being mean to other fans because of what they "know" or don't "know," as if I gave a **** who knew what or didn't know what or how any of that is relevant to my recreation or enjoyment.I've said it before and I'll say it again... anyone who's accused you of being mean to other fans is going off half-cocked. From every exchange I've ever witnessed between you and anyone else on these boards, you've always readily answered questions and helped people fill in the blanks in their knowledge.
Sure, you have a sarcastic moment from time to time, but that's not related to this. I can't recall you ever being sarcastic with someone who was asking an honest question.

[BTFLCHLD]

I can't recall you ever being sarcastic with someone who was asking an honest question. Right...David just ignores them. ;)

[michelle2677]

Well, I hope you'll forgive me, because I'm a little gun-shy. I'm so used to having other ledgies accuse me--totally groundlessly--of being mean to other fans because of what they "know" or don't "know," as if I gave a **** who knew what or didn't know what or how any of that is relevant to my recreation or enjoyment.

oh, no darling. I wasn't talking about you at all. And i really can't think of a quote or specific person...(so maybe it is you..:laugh: j/k) but I have seen it happen a few times.

[David]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... anyone who's accused you of being mean to other fans is going off half-cocked. From every exchange I've ever witnessed between you and anyone else on these boards, you've always readily answered questions and helped people fill in the blanks in their knowledge.Thank you, Stew. I think what it all comes down to in my case is, I just want to talk about Fleetwood Mac. Sometimes I think that I will be the last person on Earth who just wants to talk about Fleetwood Mac. I'll outlast all ledgies & all seven dunderers & all legboarders & all nicksfixers etc. I'll just be standing there in the final, abandoned FM forum--a cyberghosttown--chatting with myself merrily away about Fleetwood Mac tracks or tourdates or critics.

Sure, you have a sarcastic moment from time to time, but that's not related to this. I can't recall you ever being sarcastic with someone who was asking an honest question.Well, except for mary anne! ;)

[sodascouts]

Well, I hope you'll forgive me, because I'm a little gun-shy. I'm so used to having other ledgies accuse me--totally groundlessly--of being mean to other fans because of what they "know" or don't "know," as if I gave a **** who knew what or didn't know what or how any of that is relevant to my recreation or enjoyment.

Aw, poor thing. Who's been picking on you?

[HomerMcvie]

Thank you, Stew. I think what it all comes down to in my case is, I just want to talk about Fleetwood Mac. Sometimes I think that I will be the last person on Earth who just wants to talk about Fleetwood Mac. I'll outlast all ledgies & all seven dunderers & all legboarders & all nicksfixers etc. I'll just be standing there in the final, abandoned FM forum--a cyberghosttown--chatting with myself merrily away about Fleetwood Mac tracks or tourdates or critics.


Even though my answers aren't often DEEP enough for you, I'll meet you in alt.music.fleetwoodmac, in 2025. We'll be the last two standing!:lol:

[David]

Aw, poor thing. Who's been picking on you?
Greg & Darrell!
:mad:

You used to pick on me, but you're much better now. :nod:

[sodascouts]

Greg & Darrell!
:mad:

You don't say! :: feigns shock and horror ::

You used to pick on me, but you're much better now. :nod:

Nah, I never picked on you, I just occasionally got a bit sarcastic when we disagreed.... and you do not react well to sarcastic replies. lol I do appreciate the attempt at a compliment, though!

[BlackWidow]

Well, I hope you'll forgive me, because I'm a little gun-shy. I'm so used to having other ledgies accuse me--totally groundlessly--of being mean to other fans because of what they "know" or don't "know," as if I gave a **** who knew what or didn't know what or how any of that is relevant to my recreation or enjoyment.
David:
To me..You are the HEART of The Ledge!!!!!:D

[Red]

Chiffonheads for sure are the most annoting, but being aborderline CH myself, I know how extremely entertaining they/we can be.:woohoo:

[jwd]

My vote goes to the online fan faction. Bunch of bickering boobs! :D

[BlackWidow]

My vote goes to the online fan faction. Bunch of bickering boobs! :D
Your Sig Pic is AWESOME!:nod:

[BlackWidow]

Chiffonheads for sure are the most annoting, but being aborderline CH myself, I know how extremely entertaining they/we can be.:woohoo:
Cheers Darling!