What's this?

[macfan 57]

Does anyone know what this is? I checked the forum on Christine's website & I got this.....hackers?

http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/

[goldustsongbird]

.....hackers?

http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/

:laugh: Looks like it. Though why anyone would want to hack a Christine McVie forum is way beyond me.

[jbrownsjr]

dammit Stew!! what did you do!!!:lol:

[HomerMcvie]

dammit Stew!! what did you do!!!:lol:
Eh, he's been after me for quite some time.


Thanks Brian.:mad: :mad: :mad:

I was just on Chris' site about 5pm, and it was fine. Could it be the "6 month instigator", to whom we were referring?
I hate hackers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jbrownsjr]

Eh, he's been after me for quite some time.


Thanks Brian.:mad: :mad: :mad:

I was just on Chris' site about 5pm, and it was fine. Could it be the "6 month instigator", to whom we were referring?
I hate hackers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there's not stopping him

[macfan 57]

I was just on Chris' site about 5pm, and it was fine. Could it be the "6 month instigator", to whom we were referring?


Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. It's too much of a coincidence that she reappeared again & just a week or so later the forum gets hacked into. I didn't think that airhead was smart enough to do something like that though. I just sent a private message to Pip, the moderator of that board.

[Gailh]

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. It's too much of a coincidence that she reappeared again & just a week or so later the forum gets hacked into. I didn't think that airhead was smart enough to do something like that though. I just sent a private message to Pip, the moderator of that board.

I too doubt if the cretin had the brains to hack into a forum.

Annoying though

Gail

[macfan 57]

This is just an update. Pip got back to me this morning. She said that the last few times she has e-mailed the administrator of the site, Gavin, she received no response back from him. So she is going to try to find a contact e-mail for Sanctuary Records to let them know what happened. It looks like they have lost all interest in that website. That pretty much explains why that Q & A died too.

[Gailh]

This is just an update. Pip got back to me this morning. She said that the last few times she has e-mailed the administrator of the site, Gavin, she received no response back from him. So she is going to try to find a contact e-mail for Sanctuary Records to let them know what happened. It looks like they have lost all interest in that website. That pretty much explains why that Q & A died too.

Yes it looks like they've lost interest.

Thanks for trying

Gail

[HomerMcvie]

I'll never understand what thrill people get out of ruining someone else's website. F*CKING LOSERS!:mad: :mad: :mad:

I'd like to rip their.............(nevermind):blob2:

[dougl]

detour 'round the hacker...
click on username of last post, then click on 'find all posts by ', then click on Forum: 'In The Meantime:The Album'. hope it works!
we love ya' Chris!

[Aisling]

detour 'round the hacker...
click on username of last post, then click on 'find all posts by ', then click on Forum: 'In The Meantime:The Album'. hope it works!
we love ya' Chris!

or you could just go to this link:

http://www.christinemcvie.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

it worked for me, hope it works for everyone else!

[DrK]

Thanks -- it works.

[macfan 57]

It worked. Doug & Aisling, you guys are great!

Long live Christine McVie.:woohoo::] :woohoo::] :woohoo::]

[Gailh]

It worked. Doug & Aisling, you guys are great!

Long live Christine McVie.:woohoo::] :woohoo::] :woohoo::]

I second that!

Gail

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

This is just an update. Pip got back to me this morning. She said that the last few times she has e-mailed the administrator of the site, Gavin, she received no response back from him. So she is going to try to find a contact e-mail for Sanctuary Records to let them know what happened. It looks like they have lost all interest in that website. That pretty much explains why that Q & A died too.
This does seem to be the case. I've tried to email Gavin from the website and I just get it sent back with a faliure notice. So far no response from the email I sent to Sanctuary.

[macfan 57]

This does seem to be the case. I've tried to email Gavin from the website and I just get it sent back with a faliure notice. So far no response from the email I sent to Sanctuary.

It's OK, Pip. I know you're doing your best.:) It wouldn't surprise me if Gavin was no longer even working for Sanctuary.

[David]

It's OK, Pip. I know you're doing your best.:) It wouldn't surprise me if Gavin was no longer even working for Sanctuary.I had a disappointing hunch that Web site would come & go with the album itself.

Remember, people, these are musicians who have essentially no interest in Internet presence or activity. Mick probably keeps his site running peripherally only as a future outlet for any additional business ventures he engages in. In Christine's case, she had absolutely no reason from her perspective to keep a Web presence beyond the immediate release of that CD.

But, people, get with the program. We don't NEED them to have them on the Web, if you get what I'm saying. We keep Christine alive by talking about her. She doesn't do that. She doesn't even help. In fact, she doesn't even hear about it. BUT WE KEEP THE CHRIS LEGEND ALIVE IN THE HEARTS OF THOUSANDS!! if you could but see it ...

Sure, it might have been nice to see her answers to the questions. But on the other hand, it might have been REALLY boring & pointless (Stevie's ongoing Q&A, anyone?).

[macfan 57]

I had a disappointing hunch that Web site would come & go with the album itself.

Remember, people, these are musicians who have essentially no interest in Internet presence or activity. Mick probably keeps his site running peripherally only as a future outlet for any additional business ventures he engages in. In Christine's case, she had absolutely no reason from her perspective to keep a Web presence beyond the immediate release of that CD.

But, people, get with the program. We don't NEED them to have them on the Web, if you get what I'm saying. We keep Christine alive by talking about her. She doesn't do that. She doesn't even help. In fact, she doesn't even hear about it. BUT WE KEEP THE CHRIS LEGEND ALIVE IN THE HEARTS OF THOUSANDS!! if you could but see it ...

Sure, it might have been nice to see her answers to the questions. But on the other hand, it might have been REALLY boring & pointless (Stevie's ongoing Q&A, anyone?).

I doubt that a Christine McVie Q & A would have been boring. Remember that online chat that she did back around when Time was released? But, you are absolutely right about us keeping the Chris legend alive by talking about her. I'm amazed that there are over 10,000 posts in this forum in 2 years. When I first came to the Ledge, you hardly heard anything about her in the general forums. Then Marty started this forum & the Chris fans slowly started coming out of the woodwork.

As for her website...I didn't think it would still be around 2 years after ITM was released. I think Sanctuary & Chris(I assume that she's still paying for it) have probably forgotten about it. Official websites are NEVER as good as fan sites, so it shouldn't really be a surprise what happened with her site.

[macfan 57]

I haven't been able to access Christine's website for the last day or two. It looks like either they took it down or it's being moved. Unfortunately, I think it's probably gone.:(

[Gailh]

I haven't been able to access Christine's website for the last day or two. It looks like either they took it down or it's being moved. Unfortunately, I think it's probably gone.:(

I can open up the home page but none of the other pages are working.

Looks like it's gone or maybe Martin Wyatt is setting up a new one (this is where I usually wake up)

Gail

[HomerMcvie]

Yep, I just noticed it, too(before checking here). I'll bet that it's done.:shocked:

[macfan 57]

I can open up the home page but none of the other pages are working.

Looks like it's gone or maybe Martin Wyatt is setting up a new one (this is where I usually wake up)



Gail, how are you getting the home page? I can't even get that.:confused:

Not that it matters, it's probably gone anyway. That website was up for nearly 3 years. I don't know how these things work, but I assume that Chris still owns the domain name, ChristineMcVie.com.

[Gailh]

Gail, how are you getting the home page? I can't even get that.:confused:

Not that it matters, it's probably gone anyway. That website was up for nearly 3 years. I don't know how these things work, but I assume that Chris still owns the domain name, ChristineMcVie.com.

Erm I just type in www.christinemcvie.com and up it pops.

But as you say not that it matters none of the other pages are working.

Gail

Edited 13:30. the domain name is registered until July 2007. I daresay they'll re-register it just to stop someone else using it. I don't think we'll see another website. I don't think Christine is into any interaction with her fans. Sigh!

[Gailh]

Now I can't into the Home page!

Bum!

Gail

[macfan 57]

I don't think we'll see another website. I don't think Christine is into any interaction with her fans. Sigh!

Unfortunately, I think you're right. All those ITM outtakes & demos on her nephew's computer are gone forever. She is retired. And, in all reality if she never records again, there probably isn't a need, for her part for a website.

[electronicstorm]

Unfortunately, I think you're right. All those ITM outtakes & demos on her nephew's computer are gone forever. She is retired. And, in all reality if she never records again, there probably isn't a need, for her part for a website.

Retired!!?? Nah, we've heard it all before, I doubt she is gone forever. Hopefully they are just moving the site somewhere else or it's under construction. I think they own the domain christinemcvie.com, it would be really silly on her managers side or record label to let it go for anyone to pick up. How would they use that domain for future events. I'm sure it's there somewhere, they must be doing something. Christine will be back, she'll be writing lyrics on her dying bed! :thumbsup:

Oh and what's that about her nephew's computer gone forever?????? :confused:

[macfan 57]

Oh and what's that about her nephew's computer gone forever?????? :confused:

Oh no, I didn't mean his computer is gone.:D I had hoped that if she ever did anything with her website, maybe she'd offer some of those unreleased tracks for download via her site. I would assume that Dan Perfect still has his computer, or at least he still has those tracks saved.

[Gailh]

Retired!!?? Nah, we've heard it all before, I doubt she is gone forever. Hopefully they are just moving the site somewhere else or it's under construction. I think they own the domain christinemcvie.com, it would be really silly on her managers side or record label to let it go for anyone to pick up. How would they use that domain for future events. I'm sure it's there somewhere, they must be doing something. Christine will be back, she'll be writing lyrics on her dying bed! :thumbsup:


I'm sure they'll keep the registration of the domain name.

I equally sure that Sanctuary don't give a toss anymore.

Christine is probably still writing but I very much doubt if she'll ever record again.

Let's face it - she's retired

Gail

[HomerMcvie]

Let's face it - she's retired

Gail

Yep, I'm pretty sure that this is our truth(although of course I hope I'm wrong). While I certainly appreciate Ian's hope, we need to accept the truth.

Thanks Christine, for all the wonderful music you've brought into my life. Quite literally, the soundtrack to my life. You are/were/will always be - the heart of Fleetwood Mac.:xoxo: To me, there IS no Fleetwood Mac, without you.:)

[Gailh]

You are/were/will always be - the heart of Fleetwood Mac.:xoxo: To me, there IS no Fleetwood Mac, without you.:)

Beautifully put Homer.

I second that.

Gail

[Gailh]

I'm getting The Official Home of Virgin Steele when I type in the address now!

Jesus what next?

Gail

[HomerMcvie]

http://www.christinemcvie.com/links.asp
The URL is apparently owned by Sanctuary, as they've given it to another band of theirs.:(

[Gailh]

http://www.christinemcvie.com/links.asp
The URL is apparently owned by Sanctuary, as they've given it to another band of theirs.:(


Can they do that?

Gail

[HomerMcvie]

Can they do that?

Gail

I'm sure they own it, or they wouldn't do it.

Well, it's official. I'm finally deleting BOTH of my Chris Forum bookmarks. The real one, and the "patched" one we had. :(

[electronicstorm]

Can they do that?

Gail

How truly bizaar!! :shrug: It doesn't even make sense! How can another band have Christine's website let alone her name to their website, they will have to change it surely if they want to do any promoting. When was Christine's website first created, if I remember it wasn't long ago about the same time "In the meantime" came out. If so, I'm still not worried about the site leaving and the end of Christine's career. If or when Christine comes out with a new record they will more than likely create a new website again. They probably don't see Christine recording anytime soon, but I think in years to come there is going to be another album (when that happens, I could gladly, well not so gladly accept that one being the last), I just hope the gap isn't another 20 years!

[macfan 57]

This is very bizarre. I've never heard of Virgin Steele. Obviously, Sanctuary is behind Chris' website disappearing. How can they have ChristineMcVie.com if Chris owns her domain name?:confused:

Like Homer, I'll delete my bookmark now.

[nicepace]

I have no idea who Virgin Steele is, but my guess is that their website showing up at ChristineMcVie.com is the result of somebody's mistake. Somebody owns a hosting plan with more than one website on it; one is ChristineMcVie.com and one is, say, VirginSteele.com, and the person blundered and put the files for the Virgin Steele website in the Christine McVie directory. You'd think the person who made this error would catch it, but it's an amazing fact that a lot of people design websites and never even go look at them to see how they look. (This is one of the reasons for the many dreadful websites out there.) This is my professional guess as to what is going on.

I went to my domain registration company (dotster) and ran what is called a "whois" -- you ask the internet who owns a domain. It wasn't at all informative for ChristineMcVie.com, but it did tell me that nobody owns "ChristineMcVie.net". That would be a perfectly acceptable alternative name for a Christine site. So ... if anybody wants to make a Christine McVie fan site, I'd suggest grabbing that URL while it's still available.

Most people don't realize how inexpensive having a web presence is. Owning a domain name for a year is typically around $12 (Dotster is having a sale right now for $2.50) and there are good economy web hosts that will host more than one website for fees like $6 a month.

If I wasn't already VERY busy with some other web projects (or if somebody was actually going to PAY me for doing this, ha ha ha), I'd start a ChristineMcVie.net fan site myself.

[Aisling]

You are/were/will always be - the heart of Fleetwood Mac.:xoxo: To me, there IS no Fleetwood Mac, without you.:)


i have had the longest day (still at the office), but i logged on and saw this and it just made me smile. oddly it also made me tear up at the same time. . .but in a good way (does that make sense? i feel like i'm losing my mind right now).

sometimes i can't believe that i'll never hear her voice within the context of a fleetwood mac album again, and that just kills a part of me. but then i think of all that she's given and all that's left to look back on, and i'm so grateful.

[Aisling]

and on another note, this virgin steele thing has to be a mistake. who would want their site under the URL of another artist's name? someone screwed up at sanctuary.

having said that, i do believe her site is gone for good now.

someone want to ask john in the q&a if he'll let her know that we miss it? :)

[HomerMcvie]

I'm CERTAINLY no internet expert, but I believe the "name" isn't where you're going. "ChristineMcVie.com" is assigned to an IP address(a long number). So, even though you're clicking on her name, it's merely linked to that number(which is what you're REALLY connecting to).

Sanctuary has reassigned that IP address to the new artist. They probably just forgot to remove the link to her name also.

^^^The above, is only my idiot's understanding of this stuff. It could all be wrong!:shrug: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[pontiac6k]

Sent an email to the address on that main page. Maybe if we all do we'll get some answers?

[Aisling]

I'm CERTAINLY no internet expert, but I believe the "name" isn't where you're going. "ChristineMcVie.com" is assigned to an IP address(a long number). So, even though you're clicking on her name, it's merely linked to that number(which is what you're REALLY connecting to).

Sanctuary has reassigned that IP address to the new artist. They probably just forgot to remove the link to her name also.

^^^The above, is only my idiot's understanding of this stuff. It could all be wrong!:shrug: :lol: :lol: :lol:

no you're right. the content lives on the IP. the URL name is like a mask, a mask behind which the IP hides if you will (god i am such a sad bastard right now) :laugh: but someone had to physically go in and point the name to the IP. which is why it's weird.

logically they would have bought virgin steele their own name and then just pointed that to the IP where christine's stuff used to be.

[Aisling]

Sent an email to the address on that main page. Maybe if we all do we'll get some answers?

unfortunately i doubt it. :distress: gail and ian both were in touch with martin wyatt at one point, and even THAT didn't get us answers. other than talking to christine herself, i think we're at a loss. never hurts to try though!

[Gailh]

unfortunately i doubt it. :distress: gail and ian both were in touch with martin wyatt at one point, and even THAT didn't get us answers. other than talking to christine herself, i think we're at a loss. never hurts to try though!

I emailed Martin Wyatt last week about the disappeared website and he answered me this morning.

He says he's looking into getting someone to do a new site.

I don't know whether it will happen but we'll see.

I replied this morning and told him about the Virgin Steele situation.

Gail

[macfan 57]

I emailed Martin Wyatt last week about the disappeared website and he answered me this morning.

He says he's looking into getting someone to do a new site.

I don't know whether it will happen but we'll see.

I replied this morning and told him about the Virgin Steele situation.

Gail

Gail, thank you thank you thank you!

I hope he is able to get somebody to do it. All is not lost yet, although I hate to get my hopes up.:)

By the way, whoever this Virgin Steele is, I'm not buying any of their CDs:laugh: (not that I would have anyway;) ).

Gail, if you happen to e-mail Mr. Wyatt again, please let him know that we miss Christine & her site.

[Gailh]

Gail, thank you thank you thank you!

I hope he is able to get somebody to do it. All is not lost yet, although I hate to get my hopes up.:)

By the way, whoever this Virgin Steele is, I'm not buying any of their CDs:laugh: (not that I would have anyway;) ).

Gail, if you happen to e-mail Mr. Wyatt again, please let him know that we miss Christine & her site.

You're welcome.

I think we should all boycott Virgin Steele. Mind you it probably isn't their fault, I bet it's those pratts at Sanctuary.

It did actually cross my mind this morning to tell Mr Wyatt that we all miss the site (and Christine) but I changed my mind.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see if a new site appears but I'm not holding my breath.

Gail

[Ulpian]

You're welcome.

I think we should all boycott Virgin Steele. Mind you it probably isn't their fault, I bet it's those pratts at Sanctuary.

It did actually cross my mind this morning to tell Mr Wyatt that we all miss the site (and Christine) but I changed my mind.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see if a new site appears but I'm not holding my breath.

Gail

Thanks, Gail. That's good.

I know what you mean about telling M Wyatt about us missing Chris: she'd balk at a comment like that!

[Gailh]

While I'm on a roll I emailed Sanctuary just now and told them about the site pointing to Virgin Steele.

Not that it will do any good - they're about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Gail

[Gailh]

Thanks, Gail. That's good.

I know what you mean about telling M Wyatt about us missing Chris: she'd balk at a comment like that!

I'm not sure she'd balk at it but it didn't seem like the right time.

Gail

[macfan 57]

While I'm on a roll I emailed Sanctuary just now and told them about the site pointing to Virgin Steele.

Not that it will do any good - they're about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Gail

I'm sure Sanctuary is the problem. I'll be very surprised if you ever hear anything from them. The one time that they did contact you, they were very nasty.

[Gailh]

I'm sure Sanctuary is the problem. I'll be very surprised if you ever hear anything from them. The one time that they did contact you, they were very nasty.

yes they were - rude gits!

A thought just ocurred to me - what if I type in www.virginsteele.com would I get to Christine's site? Answer - no! BUT you don't get to Virgin Steele's either. So maybe those numpties at Sanctuary might do something about it so that people can visit the Virgin Steele site.

Gail

[macfan 57]

I just typed in christinemcvie.com & that Virgin Steele crap is now gone. Apparently thanks to Gail & probably Martin Wyatt, Sanctuary has corrected their mistake.

[Gailh]

I just typed in christinemcvie.com & that Virgin Steele crap is now gone. Apparently thanks to Gail & probably Martin Wyatt, Sanctuary has corrected their mistake.

Thanks anyway but I'm not sure I actually had anything to do with it!

More likely Martin Wyatt had a little chat with them.

they probably wont answer me - I think I'm on a black list!

Gail

PS update the Virgin Steele site is www.virgin-steele.com

[macfan 57]

PS update the Virgin Steele site is www.virgin-steele.com

I'm still not buying any Virgin Steele CDs.:laugh:

[Gailh]

I'm still not buying any Virgin Steele CDs.:laugh:

good for you! :

Neither am I!

I'm sure that will upset them greatly :laugh:

Judging from the appearance of the site they look to be so far removed from Christine muscially that it's almost funny that her URL (is that the right terminology?) pointed to that site.

Gail

[Aisling]

they're about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Gail

mmmm. . .chocolate. . .teapot. . .that's something i actually would find useful. :laugh:

[Gailh]

mmmm. . .chocolate. . .teapot. . .that's something i actually would find useful. :laugh:


I have a feeling it wouldn't last very long!

Another phrase to describe someone who is useless is:

"He's about as much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking contest"

I feel certain Christine would like that one (mouth like a sewer)

Gail

[Gailh]

I just got on to the site again!

Don't know what's going on - there's no changes and no updates

Gail

[macfan 57]

I just got on to the site again!

Don't know what's going on - there's no changes and no updates

Gail

:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:

Even though there's nothing new, I'm glad it's back.:thumbsup: It's sort of a comfort knowing that it's still there.:D Maybe Mr. Wyatt is working on something.

[Gailh]

:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:

Even though there's nothing new, I'm glad it's back.:thumbsup: It's sort of a comfort knowing that it's still there.:D Maybe Mr. Wyatt is working on something.

Yeah maybe he is. It would be nice to have a new site.

But what would be on it?

I doubt if she intends to make another album and she certainly shows no signs of any interaction with us.

I suppose we could get the forum back and have a little more freedom in our discussions and see if we can upset the troll.

Still its nice to see it back

Gail

[pontiac6k]

Forum is still down however. :(

[macfan 57]

Yeah maybe he is. It would be nice to have a new site.

But what would be on it?

I doubt if she intends to make another album and she certainly shows no signs of any interaction with us.

I suppose we could get the forum back and have a little more freedom in our discussions and see if we can upset the troll.

Gail

I have no idea what would be on the site. The purpose of the old site was strictly to promote ITM. I would love if she would make some of those ITM outtakes & demos available for download, for a fee of course. I wouldn't mind paying at all. Early on, that guy from Sanctuary mentioned about posting some rare photos too. That would be nice. I highly doubt that she will ever record another album, but I still think it's possible that she could write a book. In that VH1 Classic interview of three years ago, she didn't dismiss that idea. Maybe that's a possibility & maybe that's why Mr. Wyatt wants to keep a site up.

[macfan 57]

Forum is still down however. :(

There's no way that forum can come back while the site is still where it is. It's not secure. You'd just get those hackers from Thailand or whereever again.

[pontiac6k]

Oh I wasn't aware of that. I was never on taht forum, in fact had never seen this site.

[AliceLover]

I could totally see Christine doing another album. In the Meantime seemed like something she did in her spare time, whenever she felt like playing. I think she will do another album!

[Gailh]

I could totally see Christine doing another album. In the Meantime seemed like something she did in her spare time, whenever she felt like playing. I think she will do another album!

I wish!

Gail