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Livia
05-19-2006, 09:57 AM
Chad Smith played drums? Heartbreakers appearances? Cool!

Friday, May 19, 2006

Pop Life column: The best Dixie Chicks album few may buy
The Dixie Chicks' long-awaited fourth album is their best and most bravely honest. But who's gonna buy it?

By BEN WENER
The Orange County Register

Let's for a moment set aside the outspoken overtones of the Dixie Chicks' much-anticipated fourth (and best) album, "Taking the Long Way."

That's what most pundits and pop scribes will focus on, at the exclusion of anything else - like the profoundly intimate and label-defying music itself. "60 Minutes" already joined the fray, recently profiling the embattled trio and rehashing the furor that sprung up over Natalie Maines' off-the-cuff put-down of the president three years ago.

I realize Maines and fellow Chicks Emily Robison and Martie Maguire aren't shying away from this still-tense topic. More than a few tracks on the new album (in stores Tuesday) address fallout from "the incident," as they term it.

You may have heard the obvious example by now. Or perhaps only heard about it, seeing as a perusal of playlists at most country stations proves hardly any of them are spinning the Chicks' considered yet contentious first single, "Not Ready to Make Nice."

Its opening salvo: "Forgive/ Sounds good/ Forget/ I'm not sure I could." Its fierce chorus: "It's too late to make it right/ I probably wouldn't if I could/ 'Cause I'm mad as hell/ Can't bring myself to do what it is you think I should."

Or the bridge: "How in the world can the words that I said/ Send somebody so over the edge/ That they'd write me a letter/ Sayin' that I better shut up and sing/ Or my life will be over?"

OK, so I didn't really set aside outspoken overtones.

But that much I expected from this turning-point effort. Anything less than the bravest honesty would have been a cop-out. Much to their credit, the Dixie Chicks do not back down; if anything, they're apt to incur even more enemies (or indifferent ears) for refusing to retreat into the safety of pretty but empty country pap.

Notice that on KZLA's Top 20, "Not Ready to Make Nice" is nowhere to be found, though the tamer "Everybody Knows" (about "the psychology of celebrity," as Maines has noted) clocks in at No. 16. The lesson: Get jingoistic (like Toby Keith), and radio will play your up-with-America jingles incessantly. Be contrary and you better start looking elsewhere for media support.

So Roxanne and I have been wondering just who makes up the Dixie Chicks' fan base now, and whether "Taking the Long Way" will be the big crossover sensation it deserves to be.

Understand, while I'm just a recent Dixies convert, Roxanne has been a die-hard from "Wide Open Spaces" onward. I received an advance of the new disc two weeks ago, but I hadn't much seen the thing until three days ago. Rox immediately absconded with it, listening to it a dozen times.

Her initial reaction: It retains the warmth of the authentic country feel of 2002's "Home." That much I attribute not to the Chicks themselves (who for the first time co-penned every cut) or their writing partners (a first-rate array led by Semisonic's Dan Wilson but also including the Jayhawks' Gary Louris, Sheryl Crow, Neil Finn, Keb' Mo', Pete Yorn and Linda Perry).

I figure that warmth is due to a superior backing group (featuring a few Heartbreakers and Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith) and, most of all, the instincts of producer Rick Rubin, gifted at capturing an immediacy that leaves you feeling like you're eavesdropping on the artists.

He brings the same spirit to this that he brought to Tom Petty's "Wildflowers," doing away with compact polish, allowing instrumentation room to breathe, letting the Chicks' vocal maturity shine through and get bolstered by resonant American country-rock.

That's really what this is: great, melodic, thought-provoking American music that incorporates strains from several genres until it's beholden to none. If anything, it's an extension of the SoCal rock tradition put forth in the '70s by the likes of Stevie Nicks and Linda Ronstadt, only infused with far more heartfelt commentary, spanning topics as standard as long-term love and as diverse as dealing with Alzheimer's and infertility.

It's startling progress that makes earlier Chicks records seem simplistic. They have evolved into something realer and deeper - as opposed, Rox says, to Faith Hill, who went pop with syrup poured on top.

"I could really hear this on Star 98," I told her as we listened again the other night.

Not a chance, she thinks. "It's still too country for that."

And she may be right. Star hasn't gone near the single, instead spinning lame fluff like "You're Beautiful" and "Bad Day" ad nauseam. Nor has KBIG picked up on the Dixies.

Nor is there really an overtly country cut to push on the KZLAs and CMTs of the airwaves. Consider "Lubbock or Leave It." Musically it sounds like a sop to Toby Keith fans, but the lyrics are pure venom spewed at the narrow-mindedness of Maines' hometown, which still won't play her records. Likewise, the gospel-infused "I Hope" isn't likely to please some church folk, as its first verse tackles the conflict of adhering to "thou shalt not kill" yet supporting war.

It's said that when the outcry of three years ago began, a new (primarily pop) audience came running to the Chicks' defense. Yet will they remain? And buy in big numbers?

I have no doubt "Taking the Long Way" will debut at No. 1 and become another breakout moment for the Chicks, who should solidify some new audience. But I also have no doubt that this won't sell as many copies as its predecessors.

That's what comes with being uncompromising: smaller returns, dismayed fans, greater self-satisfaction.

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SortaSavageLike
05-19-2006, 10:03 AM
I don't think this reviewer knows what he's talking about. If there's one thing I always loved about Fleetwood Mac it's that subtle political commentary they've infused into each one of their songs.

golddustwoman77
05-19-2006, 10:31 AM
I don't think this reviewer knows what he's talking about.


What I find interesting is the fact that he doesn't think anyone is going to buy it. WTF!? They have gotten major publicity for this album: newspapers, TV, interviews, lots of positive reviews, etc. Also, the single, "Not Ready to Make Nice" has been a top download on iTunes for several weeks, and it is getting major airplay on the radio. Also, they are playing the video A LOT on CMT. Also, they are planning a huge tour to back the album, which usually helps. Therefore, I think it has a great shot of selling well. Besides with the state that our country is in right now, what Natalie Maines said is looking pretty smart right now. Since time has passed, I'm sure some people have changed their opinion on her comment.

JohnL
05-19-2006, 01:17 PM
I know I am gonna buy it...probably the day it comes out. I love them.

skcin
05-19-2006, 01:22 PM
I'll be buying too, but I agree with him that it won't sell as well as previous CDs. Music fans will buy it, Chicks fans will buy it. But the general public & country music fans may not, especially in the South & "red" states.

Jyqm
05-19-2006, 01:31 PM
I'll be buying too, but I agree with him that it won't sell as well as previous CDs. Music fans will buy it, Chicks fans will buy it. But the general public & country music fans may not, especially in the South & "red" states.

Technically, there's only three "red" states left:

http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StatePres060515Net.htm

And I think they've got the total population of my bathroom.

skcin
05-19-2006, 01:57 PM
Technically, there's only three "red" states left:

http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StatePres060515Net.htm

And I think they've got the total population of my bathroom.


I agree the tide has turned (or at least, it's trying to turn ;) ) but I also think there are plenty of people who are middle age & older, who are country music fans, who will not buy this CD cuz they're still pissed off that Natalie dared to voice an opinion. I don't think it will bomb, but I doubt it will sell as many copies as Home did. JOM.

Livia
05-19-2006, 03:25 PM
I think they're attracting a new audience. :nod: Maybe not enough to make up for the rednecks who are pissed off at 'em now, but I doubt this album will tank.

Did y'all see the other review I posted on the Rumours board?

ShangriLaTroubl
05-21-2006, 10:42 AM
I'll be buying it as well..But I agree that it won't sell as well. For the Dixie Chicks terms, it has already started off "slow." There's no big smash single preceding the release like their always is with them. Sure CMT may be playing the video, but it's nowhere to be found on the country charts, or country radio at all...However, I don't think it really matters. I predict it's going to be a great album, if the first single is any indication. And besides they said it themselves, they arent "ready to make nice."

Keith
05-21-2006, 05:57 PM
someone's buying it. It's been the number one album on Amazon.com for the last few days and it hasn't even been released. It's beating albums that already have by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Neil Young, and Bruce Springsteen.

Country music needs the Chicks more than they need country music. I guarantee a #1 debut on Billboard. I'll be downloading my itunes version first thing Tuesday morning. I love my chicks...

ShangriLaTroubl
05-21-2006, 06:36 PM
someone's buying it. It's been the number one album on Amazon.com for the last few days and it hasn't even been released. It's beating albums that already have by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Neil Young, and Bruce Springsteen.

Country music needs the Chicks more than they need country music. I guarantee a #1 debut on Billboard. I'll be downloading my itunes version first thing Tuesday morning. I love my chicks...

Oh yeah no doubt I think it will debut at #1, but I don't I think it will sell the millions and millions the others have sold..

David
05-21-2006, 06:43 PM
the only twixie chicks song I know is .... Landslide!! :wavey: :sorry: :nod: :o :( :confused:

Keith
05-21-2006, 06:49 PM
what I really like about the Dixie Chicks is how they refused to compromise. I just finished reading an article in the New York Times where Natalie says " we need to approach everything like not one radio station is going to play one single song." Asked about country radio, she said, "Do you really think we're going to make an album for you and trust the future of our career to people who turned on us in a day?"

A Keith quote: "Just so you know, I'm ashamed the president of the United States is from the United States."

ShangriLaTroubl
05-21-2006, 06:52 PM
what I really like about the Dixie Chicks is how they refused to compromise. I just finished reading an article in the New York Times where Natalie says " we need to approach everything like not one radio station is going to play one single song." Asked about country radio, she said, "Do you really think we're going to make an album for you and trust the future of our career to people who turned on us in a day?"

A Keith quote: "Just so you know, I'm ashamed the president of the United States is from the United States."

Love your quote Keith..I also agree it's great they refuse to compromise...The critics say the first single is a big F-U to country music, well what do they expect? Do they deserve any better...no they dont

Phoenix
05-22-2006, 12:14 AM
I agree the tide has turned (or at least, it's trying to turn ;) ) but I also think there are plenty of people who are middle age & older, who are country music fans, who will not buy this CD cuz they're still pissed off that Natalie dared to voice an opinion. I don't think it will bomb, but I doubt it will sell as many copies as Home did. JOM.

I am going to buy at least a couple of copies of this cd, just to piss "those kind of people off" Let the statement of rebellion begin!

Jyqm
05-22-2006, 05:33 AM
The critics say the first single is a big F-U to country music, well what do they expect? Do they deserve any better...no they dont

Well, not an F-U to country music, but an F-U to the Nashville country music establishment, and country radio. I don't doubt that the Chicks still love country music. But the Nashville establishment has always been ****, and the best country musicians have always been the ones who struck their own path and refused to compromise with the idiots behind the desks.

skcin
05-22-2006, 02:10 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/05/22/music.dixiechicks.reut/index.html

Country radio disses Dixie Chicks
'Nice' barely scrapes top 40; follow-up faltering

Monday, May 22, 2006; Posted: 9:36 a.m. EDT (13:36 GMT)

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (Billboard) -- Disappointing airplay for the first two singles from the new album by the Dixie Chicks exposes a deep -- and seemingly growing -- rift between the trio and the country radio market that helped turn the group into superstars.

"Taking the Long Way," due out May 23, is the band's first album since singer Natalie Maines sparked a major controversy in 2003 by declaring that she was ashamed to hail from the same state as fellow Texan President George W. Bush. Radio boycotts ensued, and many fans abandoned the band.

The first single, "Not Ready to Make Nice," peaked at No. 36 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, beginning its descent after just seven weeks. The second single, "Everybody Knows," is now at No. 50, down two places in its fourth week.

"Not Ready to Make Nice" performed only slightly better at adult contemporary radio, peaking at No. 32 on the AC chart and falling off after six weeks.

From the beginning of the album rollout, the Dixie Chicks were eager that their songs be worked to radio formats beyond country. The album was produced by rock veteran Rick Rubin, whose credits include the Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down and Johnny Cash. (Read Time magazine cover story.)

By picking the defiant "Not Ready" as the first single, they've reopened a wound that was particularly deep for country radio fans, and left many country programmers with the burning question: Why on earth would the band choose to do this?

After hearing the album, WKIS Miami program director Bob Barnett says he was "excited about the opportunity to introduce some great Chicks music to the listeners." But the group's decision to come with "Not Ready" as the lead single left him "stunned, especially in light of the fact that, when asked, programmers and consultants that listened to the project were virtually unanimous in saying we should put the politics behind us and concentrate on all this other great music we were hearing."

KUBL/KKAT Salt Lake City PD Ed Hill criticizes the song's "self-indulgent and selfish lyrics."

Barnett played the song for a week, but pulled it after listeners called to say it sounded like the Chicks were "gloating" or "rubbing our noses in it," he reports. "We didn't need to pick at the scab any longer."

He and other country programmers were upset that the group chose to launch its new album with a single that rehashed all the angst of three years ago.

The two singles have had a striking lack of impact at radio, considering the band's history. Between 1997 and 2003, it notched 14 top 10 country singles, including six No. 1 hits. In addition to eight Grammy Awards, the group has won 10 Country Music Assn. Awards and eight Academy of Country Music Awards. The trio has sold 23.4 million albums in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

The Dixie Chicks and reps from their label, Columbia Records, declined to participate in this story. But -- at least as far as Maines is concerned -- the drop-off at country radio was part of its plan.

Maines was quoted in late January on EW.com, before the single went to country radio, saying: "For me to be in country music to begin with was not who I was ... I would be cheating myself ... to go back to something that I don't wholeheartedly believe in. So I'm pretty much done. They've shown their true colors. I like lots of country music, but as far as the industry and everything that happened ... I couldn't want to be farther away from that."

Maines also said, "I don't want people to think that me not wanting to be part of country music is any sort of revenge. It is not. It is totally me being who I am, and not wanting to compromise myself and hate my life."

At KNCI Sacramento, California, the Chicks' music weathered the 2003 controversy only to be pulled as a result of Maines' new Entertainment Weekly comments, coupled with poor scores in local music tests.

"When an artist says that they don't want to be a part of that industry, it made our decision a no-brainer," program director Mark Evans says. "There are too many talented new artists dying to have a song played on country radio, so I'd rather give one of them a shot."

Copyright 2006 Reuters. All rights reserved.

strandinthewind
05-22-2006, 02:27 PM
It always amazes me how people act shocked when they are vocal about a controversial topic and then their product does not sell.

skcin
05-22-2006, 02:31 PM
It always amazes me how people act shocked when they are vocal about a controversial topic and then their product does not sell.


Who's shocked? :shrug:

strandinthewind
05-22-2006, 02:45 PM
Who's shocked? :shrug:

I did not mean anyone here - I meant the newspaper's implied shockdom ( :laugh:)

golddustwoman77
05-22-2006, 04:06 PM
I'm a little surprised. I thought that this would have blown over by now. It has been several years, and Bush has proven to be a terrible President---his approval rating is in the toilet! All you have to do is look at the President's track record now. These people need to wake up and admit that he has made mistake after mistake. I'm tired of hearing excuses for W. Having said that, I don't understand why these people are still holding this against them. Can't they see she has a right to say this,and that it obviously had some backing. Get over it, country music! These are the same people that you made superstars. The Chicks didn't say anything that bad,anyway. We've all been ashamed of our President for one decision or another. Therefore, country music need to stop all this nonsense. I feel really bad for them, and I'll be buying their album tomorrow. :D

estranged4life
05-22-2006, 06:27 PM
Dixie Chick: Bush owed ‘no respect whatsoever’

Maines takes back apology for ’03 remarks she made about president

The Dixie Chicks' Natalie Maines apologized for disrespecting President Bush during a London concert in 2003. But now, she's taking it back. "I don't feel that way anymore," she said. "I don't feel he is owed any respect whatsoever."

NEW YORK - The Dixie Chicks' Natalie Maines apologized for disrespecting President Bush during a London concert in 2003. But now, she's taking it back.

"I don't feel that way anymore," she told Time magazine for its issue hitting newsstands Monday. "I don't feel he is owed any respect whatsoever."

As war in Iraq loomed, Maines told the London audience: "Just so you know, we're ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas."

The remarks led to death threats and a backlash from other country stars, including a high-profile spat with Toby Keith. It also stalled what until then had been the group's smashingly successful career.

Bandmate Emily Robinson said she knew right away the remark wouldn't be taken lightly and got "hot from my head to my toes."

"It wasn't that I didn't agree with her 100 percent; it was just, 'Oh, this is going to stir something up,'" she told Time.

For band member Martie Maguire, the controversy was a blessing in disguise.

"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."

The Chicks' hits include "Landslide," "Goodbye Earl" and "Wide Open Spaces." Their new album, "Taking the Long Way," is due out May 23. The first single is "Not Ready to Make Nice."

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Not smart runnin' the mouth with that lil' barb towards Reba...As for me I am trying to get rid of the Dixie Twits cd's I have (Not because of the Bush remarks mind you...I just started to hate country music again!)

If anyone is interested in trading for the cd single of "Long Time Gone" & the deluxe version of "Home" (Includes a DVD w/music videos including their butchery of "Landslide") feel free to PM me.

strandinthewind
05-22-2006, 08:25 PM
I think most people really want to like Bush, though why I have no fukcing clue. I also think it is not so much their "attack" on W as it is the fact that that statement was inexplicably taken to be an attack on our troops overseas in a foreign land a la Hanoi Jane. I do not get the connection and could care a less what NM says or thinks. But, apparently, I am in the minority.

Interestingly, their concert apres deluge was a huge success, though it had sold out prior to the statement in London. But, still, people would seemingly eat the price of the tickets or burn them at the concert door rather than go if they hated them that much. That did not happen. So, their overall popularity somewhat survived. Personally, I think if they had come out with a good song that was not political, it would have had a better chance.

Livia
05-22-2006, 08:31 PM
They're on Letterman tonight. I also find it interesting that their album drops tomorrow, same day as the Country Music whatever awards in the evening. :p

estranged4life
05-22-2006, 10:44 PM
on the local news tonite there was a story about how OKC country stations have decided to not play any new Dixie Chicks music on the air.

That decision comes not from their recant of the Bush apology, nor the fact that they have taken swipes at Oklahomans Toby Keith & Reba McEntire (Man, It will be funny to see how the Chicks will react when they play OKC in Sept this year...Right down the block from the Ford Center is the somewhat new "Toby Keith's Bar & Grill"-Not to mention that Ford Motor Company sponsors Toby Keith and has placed ads with his likeness throughout the Ford Center.), But from their recent statements that they do not need country radio...So the stations here will abide by their request.

Jyqm
05-23-2006, 02:56 AM
I think most people really want to like Bush, though why I have no fukcing clue. I also think it is not so much their "attack" on W as it is the fact that that statement was inexplicably taken to be an attack on our troops overseas in a foreign land a la Hanoi Jane.

What troops where? Afghanistan? She made the comment in January 2003.

strandinthewind
05-23-2006, 05:37 AM
Yes, the troops in Afaganistan and we were on the verge of war with Iraq and everyone knew it - I mean after chomping at the bit, we went soon thereafter.

Again, on the heels of 9/11, it probabluy was not the smartest thing to go abroad and criticize a very beloved American President in a time of rising nationalism.

Please note - I am not saying she had no right to say it or that she was not speaking the truth about how she felt (it is not a factual/historical statement but a subjective one :shrug: ) - I am just saying she must own the consequences of her actions. Do I think the retaliation was too severe? Yes, I do. Do I think Fox News destroyed her based on a relatively benign comment from a silly girl singer all in the name of ratings? Yes, I so. But, such is life, which often is unfair.

Jyqm
05-23-2006, 06:26 AM
Please note - I am not saying she had no right to say it or that she was not speaking the truth about how she felt (it is not a factual/historical statement but a subjective one :shrug: ) - I am just saying she must own the consequences of her actions.

I think she does! All three of them do. That's precisely what this album is about, isn't it?

I read a good quote from Natalie Maines in some article or other in which she said one of the reasons she was so shocked by the extent of the retaliation in the immediate aftermath of "the Incident" is because she had been naive about the nature of the groups' fans up to that point. She had no idea that so many of them had made the assumption that because they were country artists, they must be Republican and pro-war. Now that they realize that, they have no problem saying goodbye to that portion of their audience. As Martie Maguire notes in the article Brian posted: "I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith. We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."

Sounds like they're owning the consequences to me. Good on 'em.

strandinthewind
05-23-2006, 08:10 AM
I think she does! All three of them do. That's precisely what this album is about, isn't it?

I read a good quote from Natalie Maines in some article or other in which she said one of the reasons she was so shocked by the extent of the retaliation in the immediate aftermath of "the Incident" is because she had been naive about the nature of the groups' fans up to that point. She had no idea that so many of them had made the assumption that because they were country artists, they must be Republican and pro-war. Now that they realize that, they have no problem saying goodbye to that portion of their audience. As Martie Maguire notes in the article Brian posted: "I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith. We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."

Sounds like they're owning the consequences to me. Good on 'em.

I think they wanted it both ways. I think they recognize this new record is a comparative flop. So, they are saying that they don't care etc. I tend not to believe artists when they say that. I mean if they didn't care about that then they would not really comment on it. So, I think they care to an extent. In other words, I think they would have loved it if the song had been a huge hit - who wouldn't :shrug:

Interestingly, I know more than one anti-war person who did not like the fact that Maines appeared not to support the troops on foreign soil. People tend to confuse anti-war with not supporting the troops.

Jyqm
05-23-2006, 08:19 AM
I think they wanted it both ways. I think they recognize this new record is a comparative flop. So, they are saying that they don't care etc. I tend not to believe artists when they say that. I mean if they didn't care about that then they would not really comment on it. So, I think they care to an extent. In other words, I think they would have loved it if the song had been a huge hit - who wouldn't :shrug:

Well of course most artists (though no, not all) would love to have a big hit, especially if they've already had a few, but the argument that, "Well, if they didn't care they wouldn't say anything," is a bit specious, especially when it involves celebrities who are asked tons of questions about their careers.

And you can hope to have a big hit while at the same time not really minding if you don't.

strandinthewind
05-23-2006, 08:26 AM
. . . And you can hope to have a big hit while at the same time not really minding if you don't.

Perhaps true - but you cannot, as here, alienate the majority of your audience and have that hope.

Jyqm
05-23-2006, 09:01 AM
Perhaps true - but you cannot, as here, alienate the majority of your audience and have that hope.

Well, who knows exactly how much of their audience they alienated? That's the question this record is going to answer. They've got no way of knowing how many folks turned on them until the numbers for this album start rolling in. (And it's especially up in the air given that many more people agree with Natalie's sentiment three years later.)

skcin
05-23-2006, 09:55 AM
I missed Letterman. :( Anyone catch it?

Livia
05-23-2006, 10:15 AM
I watched it. Girlfriend sang the SH*T out of "Not Ready to Make Nice." I believe Natalie's dad, Lloyd, was up on the riser playing keyboards. I was hoping they'd have time to talk afterwards, especially since Dave loves to bash Bush. But they didn't. He did mention how great they sounded.

bikerchic
05-23-2006, 10:39 AM
I love the chicks. I love their new song and I will buy the new cd but they really do need to learn to keep their mouth shut. On the View this morning, they were talking about the Time article where the chicks totally diss the View, saying something alone the lines of "we're no where near the calibur of Springsteen but he would never appear on the View", meaning "their" too good for the View. Did I get this right? I didn't catch the whole thing, anyone see this? The cranky bitches went on and on dissing the chicks, about how they appeared on their show back in 98 and they actually helped start their career and how dare they say their to good for the View.

strandinthewind
05-23-2006, 11:51 AM
Well, who knows exactly how much of their audience they alienated? That's the question this record is going to answer. They've got no way of knowing how many folks turned on them until the numbers for this album start rolling in. (And it's especially up in the air given that many more people agree with Natalie's sentiment three years later.)

I agree. I think the how the tour sells will be the major factor.

David
05-23-2006, 12:17 PM
I missed Letterman. :( Anyone catch it?
I saw it back in '94 when Stevie sang Blue Denim. :wavey:
Man, she was cool!:thumbsup:

Jyqm
05-23-2006, 12:24 PM
I agree. I think the how the tour sells will be the major factor.

Very good point, I think that will likely be more revealing than the album sales, actually.

skcin
05-23-2006, 02:14 PM
I love the chicks. I love their new song and I will buy the new cd but they really do need to learn to keep their mouth shut. On the View this morning, they were talking about the Time article where the chicks totally diss the View, saying something alone the lines of "we're no where near the calibur of Springsteen but he would never appear on the View", meaning "their" too good for the View. Did I get this right? I didn't catch the whole thing, anyone see this? The cranky bitches went on and on dissing the chicks, about how they appeared on their show back in 98 and they actually helped start their career and how dare they say their to good for the View.

I shouldn't answer this, what with your using the wrong "their" and "to" but I'll forgive you cuz you're Canadian. :wavey:

I hate The View, except when Joy shoots dirty looks to Star or makes nasty comments to her. :laugh:

bikerchic
05-23-2006, 02:55 PM
I shouldn't answer this, what with your using the wrong "their" and "to" but I'll forgive you cuz you're Canadian. :wavey:

I hate The View, except when Joy shoots dirty looks to Star or makes nasty comments to her. :laugh:
I thought you were a nurse, not a f**king grammar teacher ;) :wavey:

carrie721
05-23-2006, 08:52 PM
I missed Letterman. :( Anyone catch it?

it's on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz994YWUV0

Jyqm
05-24-2006, 04:24 AM
it's on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz994YWUV0

I watched this clip yesterday.

"Hey guys! Great gig, huh?!"

Dave's such a wonderful old lech.

Great performance, although Natalie's voice is sometimes a bit shrill, and she looks like a little girl the way she waves her arms around sometimes.

skcin
05-24-2006, 08:36 AM
I thought you were a nurse, not a f**king grammar teacher ;) :wavey:


I thought you were a biker, not a bitch. Oh wait, you're both! :angel:

Teehee.

BTW - I have the new CD, I'm about halfway through. I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. :( Which is really disappointing to me, since I adore "Home." I'll have to give it some time, but nothing's knocking my socks off yet. :shrug:

JazmenFlowers
05-24-2006, 09:22 AM
I watched this clip yesterday.

"Hey guys! Great gig, huh?!"

Dave's such a wonderful old lech.

Great performance, although Natalie's voice is sometimes a bit shrill, and she looks like a little girl the way she waves her arms around sometimes.
totally. I really like the girls and I think Natalie has a great voice, but I can only take it in small doses...and not for a sustained amount of time.

I do admire them a lot. I don't own any of their albums and doubt I'll buy this one, except for the single.

strandinthewind
05-24-2006, 09:22 AM
I watched it. Girlfriend sang the SH*T out of "Not Ready to Make Nice." I believe Natalie's dad, Lloyd, was up on the riser playing keyboards. I was hoping they'd have time to talk afterwards, especially since Dave loves to bash Bush. But they didn't. He did mention how great they sounded.

She sure did sing the HELL out of that song :eek: I am not a huge fan, but she does have a fabulous voice :nod:

MacMan
05-24-2006, 02:14 PM
BTW - I have the new CD, I'm about halfway through. I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. :( Which is really disappointing to me, since I adore "Home." I'll have to give it some time, but nothing's knocking my socks off yet. :shrug:

I like the first track - Taking the Long Way Around... The 4th track - Everybody Knows and The Lubbock song and the Voices in my head or something like that..

Not a bad album... some nice harmonies on it.

skcin
05-24-2006, 02:22 PM
^ It is growing on me. I do like The Long Way Around, Not Ready To Make Nice, Lullaby & I Hope so far.

bikerchic
05-24-2006, 02:36 PM
it's on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz994YWUV0
That was great! Thanks for posting that. She did sing the hell out of that song! I really hope they can make a comeback. They didn't deserve all that bull****!

MacMan
05-24-2006, 02:49 PM
Hits daily predicts about 400k for first week sales - based on early reports from retailers. So they won't be starving that's for sure. This is down about half from first week sales of "Home", but this cd doesn't have a massive single to bolster it. So they'll do fine.

I just think the whole thing with what she said and the retaliation as a result, was just over the top and really quite bizarre actually.

Livia
05-24-2006, 03:16 PM
It's only $8.99 at Circuit City - there were only 3 of 'em left on the shelf when I got mine last night. I blasted it on the home stereo, and just came back from lunch and am now listening to it at work...

Doesn't the beginning of Everybody Knows remind you of a TISL track? I can't recall which one at the moment, but it reminds me of something.

And Lullaby sounds very "Tusk-ish" to me.

BTW - I noticed in the liner notes - Lenny Castro is playing percussion. :) And Mark Seliger did the photography. He's best known around the Ledge for that wedding photo of John and Mick.

It's a beautiful album, really. The instrumentation and vocal harmonies are flawless!

sparky
05-24-2006, 04:23 PM
Good performance, and it is a nicely crafted song. No chance in hell it is a hit song, and anyone can see that. They sent a very clear message by demanding this as a first single. They have plenty of money and can do exactly what they want. Good on 'em.

Keith
05-24-2006, 06:30 PM
in today's Washington Post (which loved the record):

"..Thus, despite its abundance of fiddle parts and the occasional weeping pedal-steel sound, the new Dixie Chicks album, "Taking the Long Way," has much more in common with Fleetwood Mac than Reba McEntire. In fact, the lush, jangly opener, "The Long Way Around," is a dead ringer for "Rumours"-era Fleetwood; elsewhere, the Chicks expertly channel the Eagles, as on the celebrity culture manifesto "Everybody Knows."

I downloaded the album from Itunes yesterday morning at 6:00 a.m. sharp, and it took me forever to get to track 2, because "The Long Way Around" became my instant favorite. Not only do I dig the music, but I can really relate to the track - being one of the few who left my small town in Missouri. I couldn't stop listening to it, but finally moved on to the rest of this really good record. My favorite tracks are the first track, Easy Silence, Not Ready to Make Nice, Everybody Knows, Lullably, Silent House, Voice Inside My Head (my current favorite- wow) and Baby Hold On.

Great stuff from the Chicks. I can't wait until they roll into D.C. on August 4. Hopefully they will play 2 nights like they did last time they came to town.

MacMan
05-24-2006, 08:46 PM
The writer is right! The opening of The Long Way Around DOES sound like Fleetwood Mac... Sounds very similar to the opening of Go Your Own Way.

BombaySapphire3
05-25-2006, 01:57 AM
I've kind of been a nominal fan of the Dixie Chicks before this, buying only "Home' and then their double live album mostly just to support them in the wake of their shameful treatment by the country music establishment and boneheaded talentless cretins like Toby Keith.But I have to say I really enjoy "Taking the Long Way'' there aren't really any bad tracks "Voice Inside My Head' is on a whole different level though.If they continue moving in that direction I may just go from casual fan to fanatic.

estranged4life
05-25-2006, 02:14 AM
I've kind of been a nominal fan of the Dixie Chicks before this, buying only "Home' and then their double live album mostly just to support them in the wake of their shameful treatment by the country music establishment and boneheaded talentless cretins like Toby Keith.

but at least he has a heart to help raise $300,000 via a charity golf tournament this past Monday in Norman that went towards helping families with young children/infants who are battling cancer.

Sadly, their new album is turning into a "shelf-warmer" here, except for sales at Best Buy it isnt flying off the market here in the heart (I prefer to say 'fart' myself) of country music known as Oklahoma.

The predictions for their upcoming arena show at the Ford Center look promising ONLY to see how they will verbally respond to being in the hometown area of Toby Keith yet again (Last time they played OKC they did not have ANY between song banter and were booed somewhat by the near sell-out Pro-military crowd, Remember OKC is a military city...Not to mention the BS with the D.C. security forces with having fans removed from the show who wore t-shirts/carried banners that were in support of President Shrub from the audience, some as young as 12 years old.)

As for me, I dont like the Dixie "I am ashamed anyone is from Texas" Chicks nor Toby "Mullet-man Booner Gooner fan" Keith :thumbsup:

Brwn_eyes0511
05-25-2006, 02:25 AM
I'll be buying too, but I agree with him that it won't sell as well as previous CDs. Music fans will buy it, Chicks fans will buy it. But the general public & country music fans may not, especially in the South & "red" states.

sadly this might be true.. however i went to my local best buy today and only 2 copies were left! (and of course I got one).. and i live in NC!!!! so we shall see..

i loved how amy grant and vince gill said that they loved the chicks and that the new album will def. be played in their home, when they were asked last night on the red carpet of the country music awards.. when most others were being pricks. :rolleyes:

skcin
05-25-2006, 10:30 AM
^ That's pretty cool of them to say. I happened to catch Vince getting the humanitarian award on the show, saw Amy & thought of you. :shocked: Really, I did. :p




OK, the album is very good. I think the thing that bugged me at first is that "Home" was sooooo country, and I fell in love with it, so it was a bit odd for me to hear a pop album from the Chicks. But I do like it a lot. And it SOOOO reminds me of Mac & The Eagles & Sheryl Corw & Petty & that whole vibe.

BTW - anyone catch the liner notes - besides Lenny Castro (who Livia already mentioned) they had help from Sheryl Crow (cowrote "Favorite Year"), Benmont Tench, Mike Campbell (cowrote "Lubbock or Leave It"), Bonnie Raitt, John Mayer, and...Keb Mo :shrug: . And of course, Rick Rubin produced it.

They were on GMA this morning for an interview (I missed it) but they're supposed to be back tomorrow to perform.

bikerchic
05-25-2006, 12:45 PM
OK, the album is very good. I think the thing that bugged me at first is that "Home" was sooooo country, and I fell in love with it, so it was a bit odd for me to hear a pop album from the Chicks. But I do like it a lot. And it SOOOO reminds me of Mac & The Eagles & Sheryl Corw & Petty & that whole vibe.

I haven't bought the cd yet but have been listening to it on MSN.music, sounds good to me. I also loved "Home". The Mac, The Eagles, Crow & Petty, what else could you ask for in an album :shrug: :thumbsup:

bikerchic
05-25-2006, 01:27 PM
Mmmmm......they're coming to Toronto, on Oct. 28th, that's a Saturday..............Paula?

David
05-25-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm not a dixie chicks fan, but when I saw em on tv I enjoyed the lowkey quality of the presentation.

I'm not really a fan of anybody except Fleetwodo Mac.

BombaySapphire3
05-25-2006, 07:12 PM
I'm not really a fan of anybody except Fleetwodo Mac.
Awwww not even Kate Bush?