View Full Version : Like or Dislike: I Still Miss Someone
skcin
05-01-2006, 12:41 PM
I like Johnny Cash's version better. :lol: I think I've heard that this song's been remade by a few other artists - anyone know who off hand?
I don't really dislike Stevie's take on it. I don't think it's bad - but I think it could have been so much better. For one thing, I think I would have preferred a simpler, more stark ballad with a softer, vulnerable vocal. The music in this one is too...I don't know...electronic? Robotic? I don't feel anything when I hear it. That silly carnival organ - ugh. Way too much organ (well, fake organ I assume.) I can hardly hear anything else. Except for the tambo or whatever the hell that's supposed to be. Hard to tell, since the only reference to percussion is Rupert & his "programmed drums." :rolleyes: There's a nice bass line in there, but it's covered up by layers of crap. And good job whistling, Kelly Johnston. Yes, thanks for that.
Now. The vocal. I ordinarily adore Stevie belting it out, I do. But not here. :shocked: It's almost as if she's yelling, trying too hard to convey that she's upset about this relationship ending. She didn't need to do that, the words communicate that very well. I think a softer vocal would have worked better. JMO.
I do love the way she sings "baby, when all the love was there." Love it.
Live? I'm not upset that she's never done it live, and it's not one I'd care to see her perform to be honest.
So, did she pick this song because she'd always liked it? Did she pick it for the blue eyes reference, and if so - for Lindsey, or someone else? Did someone say "hey, you should put a cover on this album, how about a Johnny Cash tune?" Thoughts?
heyjupiter678
05-01-2006, 12:55 PM
I voted for the next to last choice, but the more I think about it, I should've went with the last one. It's a really horrible version that doesn't do the song justice <i>at all</i>, imo.
Johnny's version is great, but I like Dolly Parton's the best. :)
JazmenFlowers
05-01-2006, 12:57 PM
I'd give it a 5 out of 10.
Paula, you need to start doing these threads for some good songs...
I think I posted a bit about this track in another thread, but I think one of your comments really sums it up perfectly: "I don't feel anything when I listen to it." It is indeed a very robotic performance. Stevie just seems to bleat out the words without taking even a moment to consider what exactly she's singing, and of course the music doesn't help things. "Robotic" is a very good adjective. I'll add "monochromatic" - nuanced, this track is not.
I think I also mentioned in another thread how dread... ful... ly... slow... this track is. It just drags and drags. This is not a song that requires four whole minutes to get through.
As far as why she chose to cover this song, I really have no idea. She's never mentioned Johnny Cash in any interviews as far as I know, although we know she grew up listening to country music, and this song would have been a hit around the time she was in her "tween" years. Perhaps it was a favorite of hers as a kid, or a favorite of her grandfather's.
strandinthewind
05-01-2006, 02:18 PM
^^^^
I think she recorded it because she was singing about LB - at least she said so in some interview, if I remember it correctly.
DavidMn
05-01-2006, 02:25 PM
Not a favorite of mine.
Johnny Stew
05-01-2006, 02:36 PM
I think the production is pretty dreadful, but, God help me, I love that vocal. Sure, she probably could have sung it much better about five years prior to when this was recorded, but I still think she put a lot of emotion and heart into the song.
But then I think we've already established that I usually hear things differently than most people! :laugh:
skcin
05-01-2006, 03:29 PM
Paula, you need to start doing these threads for some good songs...
OK, I won't do Whole Lotta Trouble next. ;)
Johnny Stew
05-01-2006, 03:37 PM
OK, I won't do Whole Lotta Trouble next. ;)Actually, I think it's more fun to discuss the "red-headed step-children" of Stevie's catalog. I mean, what's left to be said about "Silver Springs" that hasn't already been said? It's more interesting to talk about "Kick It" and "One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star," and the like.
So bring on "Whole Lotta Trouble"!
David
05-01-2006, 04:22 PM
Well.....I can't say I really enjoy this track very much....but since I never play this CD, it isn't much of a problem...
....kinda like the the sticky, muggy, tropical weather in Indonesia....I hate the weather over there....but since I don't live there, it doesn't bother me much if at all. :laugh: :laugh:
Actually, I think it's more fun to discuss the "red-headed step-children" of Stevie's catalog. I mean, what's left to be said about "Silver Springs" that hasn't already been said? It's more interesting to talk about "Kick It" and "One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star," and the like.
I like both of those a lot more than "I Still Miss Someone" and "Alice"!
I think there was a OMBTRARS (now that's an acronym) thread not too long ago. I remember my comments were that it's really a pretty good song up until that confounded bridge. ooooOOOOUNDAHCOVAHHHHHHHHH!!!
David
05-01-2006, 04:24 PM
I think the production is pretty dreadful, but, God help me, I love that vocal. Sure, she probably could have sung it much better about five years prior to when this was recorded, but I still think she put a lot of emotion and heart into the song.
But then I think we've already established that I usually hear things differently than most people! :laugh:
johnny, wouldn't it be weird if you discovered that there were no other people & that the way you heard stuff was the only way that anybody heard anything because there was no anybody & it was only you, hearing stuff in your way, which was the only way? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Johnny Stew
05-01-2006, 04:31 PM
johnny, wouldn't it be weird if you discovered that there were no other people & that the way you heard stuff was the only way that anybody heard anything because there was no anybody & it was only you, hearing stuff in your way, which was the only way? :eek: :eek: :eek:Hmm, maybe I'm like the autistic son from St. Elsewhere, and you're all fabrications of my mind. That might explain the photo of Jason in the Superman costume. :nod:
David
05-01-2006, 04:34 PM
Hmm, maybe I'm like the autistic son from St. Elsewhere, and you're all fabrications of my mind.I got that idea from "The Mysterious Stranger" by Mark Twain.
It's time for a new sig banner for me, Stew. I'm tired of this one.
strandinthewind
05-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Hmm, maybe I'm like the autistic son from St. Elsewhere, and you're all fabrications of my mind. That might explain the photo of Jason in the Superman costume. :nod:
Hey now!!!!!!! :angel:
I thought you had forgotten all about me :angel:
goldie
05-01-2006, 06:25 PM
There's something for me somewhere in this song.
I only like it because I imagine it is for Linsdsey with the blue eyes and all. Other than that, I don't really care for it too much!
SapphireSister
05-01-2006, 07:02 PM
The worst of the worst, reminds me of a being at the circus on a bad LSD trip (not that I've been to the circus on LSD but you get my point). I've never heard the original and from the sound of this I never want to although anything must be better than this version. It's not her voice that's so horrific, it's the music and production. A bottom 5 Stevie song.
BlackWidow
05-01-2006, 07:06 PM
Her best Vocal on OSOTM!!!!
Glittermoondust
05-01-2006, 10:01 PM
I guess I'm one of the only ones that actually likes this song.........
foxyluva
05-01-2006, 10:21 PM
I may be a minority here - but I love this song. The clowny music sometimes annoys me, but I still love it :nod:
TheBlueLamp
05-02-2006, 12:46 AM
It took a while for this song to grow on me. I used to hate the circus type music but it doesn't bother me anymore. Now I love the song, although reading here that it may have been about Lindsey makes me roll my eyes. I'm so sick of Stevie's obsession with him.
I do think that the last line "Baby when all the love...was there" is the best final lyric on any of Stevie's albums. I can just imagine her taking a bow (or curtsy) as she finishes singing it.
The worst of the worst, reminds me of a being at the circus on a bad LSD trip (not that I've been to the circus on LSD but you get my point). I've never heard the original and from the sound of this I never want to although anything must be better than this version.
You know we've got problems when the sheer awfulness of Stevie's cover is turning people off to Johnny Cash.
This isn't the original studio version, but here's "I Still Miss Someone" from Folsom Prison:
http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0MOGGXDMGADHY1289ZX65EEG9B
Simple. Direct. Powerful. Ninety seconds.
David
05-02-2006, 10:49 AM
It took a while for this song to grow on me. I used to hate the circus type music but it doesn't bother me anymore. Now I love the song, although reading here that it may have been about Lindsey makes me roll my eyes. I'm so sick of Stevie's obsession with him.It is not about Stevie's obsession with Lindsey.
I do think that the last line "Baby when all the love...was there" is the best final lyric on any of Stevie's albums. I can just imagine her taking a bow (or curtsy) as she finishes singing it.You are aware -- yes? -- that Johnny Cash & his wife wrote the song in the 1950s?
http://www.toptown.com/hp/66/istill.htm
One has a hunch, reading this thread, that quite a few fans think Stevie wrote this thing.
TheBlueLamp
05-02-2006, 10:55 AM
It is not about Stevie's obsession with Lindsey.
You are aware -- yes? -- that Johnny Cash & his wife wrote the song in the 1950s?
http://www.toptown.com/hp/66/istill.htm
One has a hunch, reading this thread, that quite a few fans think Stevie wrote this thing.
Yes, I know who wrote it. I guess I'm just sick of Stevie's "obsession" with Lindsey. Whether she actually is obsessed is debatable but the suggestion that she's singing Johnny Cash's song to or about Lindsey just seemed ridiculous to me.
David
05-02-2006, 10:59 AM
Yes, I know who wrote it. I guess I'm just sick of Stevie's "obsession" with Lindsey. Whether she actually is obsessed is debatable but the suggestion that she's singing Johnny Cash's song to or about Lindsey just seemed ridiculous to me.Ahhh...Me sorry!! :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:
Yes, I know who wrote it. I guess I'm just sick of Stevie's "obsession" with Lindsey. Whether she actually is obsessed is debatable but the suggestion that she's singing Johnny Cash's song to or about Lindsey just seemed ridiculous to me.
Although it's interesting to note that Stevie added the parenthetical title of "Blue Eyes" to her cover. Whether or not "Blue Eyes" is a nod to Lindsey is also debatable, but it's an image she seems to use quite a bit, and it likely is tied to a specific person in her mind.
TheBlueLamp
05-02-2006, 11:10 AM
Ahhh...Me sorry!! :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:
No worries :thumbsup:
Although it's interesting to note that Stevie added the parenthetical title of "Blue Eyes" to her cover. Whether or not "Blue Eyes" is a nod to Lindsey is also debatable, but it's an image she seems to use quite a bit, and it likely is tied to a specific person in her mind.
If the specific person referred to in all those songs is Lindsey, I find it rather tiresome. I still love this song and songs like Blue Denim which features the "blue/grey eyes" but for god's sake! If she wasn't famous she'd be in an institution! To be writing and singing of the same person all those years later is crazy. Much as I love Stevie, I can't stand that side of her.
SillyDreamer
05-02-2006, 11:19 AM
Stevie's is pretty middle-of-the-road. Love Linda's, though, and I think there was a video on youtube of Johnny and Joni singing it together that was lovely.
You know we've got problems when the sheer awfulness of Stevie's cover is turning people off to Johnny Cash.
I think it'd have to be one awesome cover for Stevie to turn most people, who post here, on to Johnny Cash. Hell, I'd say most people on here don't even like country music, much less "Johnny Cash country".
I don't think this version is all that bad. I voted for there's something out there somewhere in this song. It's one of those songs I have to be in the mood for to really enjoy.
I think it'd have to be one awesome cover for Stevie to turn most people, who post here, on to Johnny Cash. Hell, I'd say most people on here don't even like country music, much less "Johnny Cash country".
Yes, yes, I know, most people here have horrible taste in music, I can still try!
Yes, yes, I know, most people here have horrible taste in music, I can still try!
I would have been highly pissed if you said ALL people who post here have horrible taste in music. I won't take it personally. :p
I would have been highly pissed if you said ALL people who post here have horrible taste in music. I won't take it personally. :p
I'm just waiting for the all the "You mean ME, don't you?!?!?! :mad:" posts.
Johnny Stew
05-02-2006, 03:06 PM
I'm just waiting for the all the "You mean ME, don't you?!?!?! :mad:" posts.Funny -- I've never given a flying fig what anyone thinks of my musical tastes. Even in high school when it was oh-so-uncool to follow Stevie Nicks & Fleetwood Mac, and I was the lone guy who did, I wore that distinction proudly. It was one of the few things about myself in which I had confidence!
So I guess it strikes me as somewhat silly when other people get bent out of shape about that kind of stuff.
Even in high school when it was oh-so-uncool to follow Stevie Nicks & Fleetwood Mac, and I was the lone guy who did, I wore that distinction proudly.
Is that why they took you outside and beat you up?! :p
Johnny Stew
05-02-2006, 03:15 PM
Is that why they took you outside and beat you up?! :p:laugh:
Nah, that was because I was a little 'mo in a sea of football-lovin', beer-swillin' jocks. :laugh:
:laugh:
Nah, that was because I was a little 'mo in a sea of football-lovin', beer-swillin' jocks. :laugh:
:laugh: Sounds like your kind of party Stew!!! ;)
Johnny Stew
05-02-2006, 03:19 PM
:laugh: Sounds like your kind of party Stew!!! ;)Well, when life hands you lemons -- make lemonade!! :laugh:
Bring on those testosterone-crazed jocks! ;)
So I guess it strikes me as somewhat silly when other people get bent out of shape about that kind of stuff.
Same here, but you know how things sometimes go around here.
Johnny Stew
05-02-2006, 06:33 PM
Same here, but you know how things sometimes go around here.Well, there have been a few folks who gave off the "if you actually like such & such song, you must be an idiot" vibe in their posts, or just blatantly said it... and I can see why people would get offended there. But I tend to think that if you like a song -- yours is the only opinion that matters.
David
05-02-2006, 06:35 PM
Well, there have been a few folks who gave off the "if you actually like such & such song, you must be an idiot" vibe in their posts, or just blatantly said it... and I can see why people would get offended there. But I tend to think that if you like a song -- yours is the only opinion that matters.Notice how I always couch my insults in vagueries & generalities? "The fans" or "people I know" or "people" &c.
NEVER name specifically another ledgie & lob an insult (although I'd like to). Oddly enough, I get named & insulted here all the time. Lucky for those people, I have thicker skin (like a longneck clam from Pismo Beach).
Oddly enough, I get named & insulted here all the time.
But hey, so does Stevie! So at least you're in good company.
Travisevian
04-24-2012, 12:17 PM
Sometimes, I think Real Tears would have been a better closing track for The Other Side Of The Mirror. It's certainly a curious decision for Stevie to record this but I really like her passionate version of this classic song.
I think I've heard that this song's been remade by a few other artists - anyone know who off hand?
Emmylou Harris recorded a lovely version about the same time as Stevie for her Bluebird album and Rosanne Cash also recorded it in the middle to late 1990's for, I believe, a compilation album.
Macfanforever
04-24-2012, 01:14 PM
Again she's got to record a country record.I love this tune.
mikephxaz
04-24-2012, 05:31 PM
The song could have been so beautiful but Stevie just BLEW IT. It was a missed opportunity. :(
mitzo
04-24-2012, 06:06 PM
I am not hearing what the rest of you seem to hear - to me it is a neat experiment in putting a wistful country tune to a kind of reggae arrangement, with killer emotive vocals by Stevie. It is a hidden treat on a kind of difficult album.
So there. :nod:
Ghosty
04-25-2012, 01:38 PM
I would LOVE this song if there was not that horrible circus music! I think it's a great song for Stevie to do, but maybe with acoustic guitar. ANYTHING but that horrible crud they used.
(I hate Rupurt Hine. He really ruined that album. I wish she had anyone but him do it.)
Dodfather
04-25-2012, 01:58 PM
Uggghhh this song is just horrible! It's even more annoying because I love the song itself and Stevie can sing country reaally well but my God, that arrangement and the truly awful backing track! No! I always skip it and I think it's the second worse song she has ever committed to an album, after Jane of course.
Jondalar
04-25-2012, 05:19 PM
This song is a badly produced nightmare. It's a joke. She sounds horrible with this production.
bluefox4000
04-25-2012, 06:54 PM
this song......is audio puke.....sorry I just.......no:distress:
Mick
Jondalar
04-25-2012, 06:56 PM
this song......is audio puke.....sorry I just.......no:distress:
Mick
totally agree, a HUGE embarrassment for her!
windbecame
04-25-2012, 07:13 PM
Uggghhh this song is just horrible! It's even more annoying because I love the song itself and Stevie can sing country reaally well but my God, that arrangement and the truly awful backing track! No! I always skip it and I think it's the second worse song she has ever committed to an album, after Jane of course.
:xoxo: i agree with everything you said about how she totally CAN sing country really well....(and probably would've LOVED this song if she HAD sung it that way) though for me... i don't skip it... i just DON'T listen to "Mirror" very often!!:laugh:
Jondalar
04-25-2012, 07:16 PM
:xoxo: i agree with everything you said about how she totally CAN sing country really well....(and probably would've LOVED this song if she HAD sung it that way) though for me... i don't skip it... i just DON'T listen to "Mirror" very often!!:laugh:
Me either, I despise that album, it's the dung on my boot. You just don't understand—my hopes were so high for that album because I thought Rock a Little was bad. I thought it was going to be her comeback. I couldn't believe it was actually worse.
bluefox4000
04-25-2012, 08:18 PM
Ha.....my feelings on mirror are well documented.....but since i can be an A-hole. Let's review:laugh: After Rock a Little I gave her a little room. Cause EVERYBODY is entitled a bad album. So I remember buying this album. Clean slate. Stuck it on.....Rooms On Fire. Oh My Great start:blob1: then.......:eek: Album over:lol: So yea.....Terrible.
I know there was no need for that. But it was already being talked about....lol:wavey:
Mick
louielouie2000
04-25-2012, 09:14 PM
this song......is audio puke.....sorry I just.......no:distress:
Mick
Agreed. Definitely on my short list of worst songs Stevie's ever recorded (solo or Mac). I like the way she sings the song; it's a great vocal. Just not a great song for Stevie Nicks. And the production is hideous.
bluefox4000
04-25-2012, 09:25 PM
Agreed. Definitely on my short list of worst songs Stevie's ever recorded (solo or Mac). I like the way she sings the song; it's a great vocal. Just not a great song for Stevie Nicks. And the production is hideous.
Yes that's number 1 for me with this song.....the production. I'm not wild about the production of Mirror as a whole. Just Adult contemporary sludge.
I got to stop. I'm quickly going down My Nicks was awful road:nod::lol: I was sooooo good for a while.
Mick
CADreaming
04-25-2012, 09:38 PM
I don't like the music, but I love the fact she recorded this song and I think her delivery is great.
tabruns
04-25-2012, 10:10 PM
It's an okay song, it just sounds really out of place on The Other Side of the Mirror
Dodfather
04-26-2012, 05:27 AM
Agreed. Definitely on my short list of worst songs Stevie's ever recorded (solo or Mac). I like the way she sings the song; it's a great vocal. Just not a great song for Stevie Nicks. And the production is hideous.
Absolutely :nod:
PolishStevieFan
04-26-2012, 09:35 AM
I've heard many versions of this song but the only one that grabbed me is Emmylou Harris' delicate rendition. In Stevie's hands this song becomes to cheesy, especially that whistling and synths arrangement. It is a country song per se so it should sound like it.
greendaze5
04-26-2012, 10:49 AM
I would've preferred if 'Real Tears' took its place, and the album ended off with 'Doing the Best I Can' instead.
Rod~A~Little
04-26-2012, 12:17 PM
The only part I like about this song is the whistling. I would have preferred the whole song to be whistled as a matter of fact.
And Rupert, what's up with the circus sound?
Geez!!!!
mitzo
04-26-2012, 05:40 PM
It's a great song, very innovative adaptation of a country tearjerker!
Thrown_Down
04-27-2012, 03:13 AM
The original is a good song, but I don't enjoy Stevie's rendition, nor the 'travelling carnival' intro. Most of all it just doesn't fit with the rest of TOSOTM, and it's especially jarring when it starts up after 'Doing The Best That I Can (Escape From Berlin)', which I love,
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