What is the oldest friendship on the ledge?

[David]

Of all the friendships formed ON the ledge, what is the longest-lived one? (but it has to still be a friendship--it can't have broken up in recent years)

[estranged4life]

since I never really thought about it until this question was posed.

Not many people from 2001 still around, and even less from the pre-2001 Ledge.

[cliffdweller]

I've only been on since 2003 :shrug: but I've made a few friends online and off and I still consider them friends.

How long (and with whom) is your longest ledgie friendship, David?

[Patti]

I still have several friends and acquaintances back from 1997, around the time of The Dance, which was when I first found the Penguin and the Ledge. Wow, it's been 9 years. Hard to believe.

[David]

How long (and with whom) is your longest ledgie friendship, David?I don't remember. Hayley, I think, or Les, neither of whom hangs out here much today. Our friendships go back probably to around 1998 from the ledge or maybe 1997. I can't remember the year.

[chiliD]

Well, David, I just can't seem to shake ya. (not that I'd WANT to) We've been yapping about Fleetwood Mac since...Time or thereabouts, right? Or was it even BEFORE that? :shrug:

Hayley's been around here since she switched from tricycle to bicycle. :thumbsup:

Even met my beautiful WIFE here back in 1997.

Sadly, many of those who were around in the early days left and haven't come back. (or maybe they HAVE, under a different screen name without letting on of their previous identity)

[David]

I still have several friends and acquaintances back from 1997, around the time of The Dance, which was when I first found the Penguin and the Ledge. Wow, it's been 9 years. Hard to believe.Patti, were you friends with Ava back then?

[David]

Well, David, I just can't seem to shake ya. (not that I'd WANT to)

We've been yapping about Fleetwood Mac since...Time or thereabouts, right? Or was it even BEFORE that? :shrug:Yes we go waaaay back. However we didn't become friends on the ledge, so that's why I didn't include you. I was thinking of people I met specifically on the ledge. Whereas you & I were both posting on amfm back pre-reunion days, along with sMac & Nepotist chris & remember that nice guy Chris Small who lived in Davis? Wonder what ever happened to him.

[Patti]

Patti, were you friends with Ava back then?

We weren't what I would call friends per se, but I did talk with her from time to time, yes.

[chiliD]

Yes we go waaaay back. However we didn't become friends on the ledge, so that's why I didn't include you. I was thinking of people I met specifically on the ledge. Whereas you & I were both posting on amfm back pre-reunion days, along with sMac & Nepotist chris & remember that nice guy Chris Small who lived in Davis? Wonder what ever happened to him.

Yeah...Chris Small...I remember him.

Oh, yeah, I remember MacDougall from the waaaay back, too...he had his own FMac website AND he was running that really cool Dave Mason site, as well. :thumbsup:

[mylittledemon]

I was lurking around here back in 1999 before I joined in 2001. I even had Lis (& Marty) print me up a bitchin 8x10 of Lindsey she took on The Dance tour.

[DavidMn]

Well, David, I just can't seem to shake ya. (not that I'd WANT to) We've been yapping about Fleetwood Mac since...Time or thereabouts, right? Or was it even BEFORE that? :shrug:

Hayley's been around here since she switched from tricycle to bicycle. :thumbsup:

Even met my beautiful WIFE here back in 1997.

Sadly, many of those who were around in the early days left and haven't come back. (or maybe they HAVE, under a different screen name without letting on of their previous identity)I didnt know you met your wife here. That's awesome!

[mylittledemon]

Even met my beautiful WIFE here back in 1997.



!?!?! Wha?! That's kooky talk!

[chiliD]

!?!?! Wha?! That's kooky talk!


"Kooky" as it may seem, I did. :thumbsup:

[mylittledemon]

"Kooky" as it may seem, I did. :thumbsup:

Wow...that is interesting. Hey Chili...do you have a family, like kids n' stuff? I don't think I've ever asked/known that about you

[hayley]

Hayley's been around here since she switched from tricycle to bicycle. :thumbsup:

Sad but true! Ten years this fall, maybe? that I've been posting on the Ledge. Not a lot of people left from those days- you, David, Johnny Stew, maybe? Also, Torri was the first Ledgie I ever met in 1998 and I love her and miss her as much today as ever.

There's a lot more friendships that have broken up or I've lost contact with in recent years. I started posting on the Ledge so young, and my life has changed so much since then. I started posting when I was 14, and I'm almost 24 now. I have a career, and a cat, I will soon be buying my first couch!, am going to graduate school, and I plan on entangling my amazing boyfriend into making an honest woman of me as soon as humanly possible. It's crazy.

[chiliD]

Wow...that is interesting. Hey Chili...do you have a family, like kids n' stuff? I don't think I've ever asked/known that about you

Yes, I have a family. A grown stepdaughter and her husband (who would be my stepson-in-law).

[mylittledemon]

Yes, I have a family. A grown stepdaughter and her husband (who would be my stepson-in-law).

As much as we've disagreed over the years (all in good fun, mind you, it's never been angry/bitter like some of our fellow Ledgiemites)...I always think of you as the Ledge-father-figure. Kinda like the Mick Fleetwood of the message boards. Ok...that was kinda weird, so I'll go now.

[JazmenFlowers]

for me, it's Johnny Stew...back in 97/98, it was him, Travis, someone else I can't remember to save my life and me that I remember. Travis still comes on once in a while...

...ahh...the days of the "keepers" of various Stevie/FM items and putting together the Crystal Visions tape...good times!

I was the keeper of Sisters of the Moon and Stevie's moon necklace. I remember someone was the keeper of Christine's neon green cup from The Dance video. :lol:

[chiliD]

for me, it's Johnny Stew...back in 97/98, it was him, Travis, someone else I can't remember to save my life and me that I remember.

George? :shrug:

[ThePenguin]

I was lurking around here back in 1999 before I joined in 2001. I even had Lis (& Marty) print me up a bitchin 8x10 of Lindsey she took on The Dance tour.


oooo did I really? :p I should go dig up my old pictures, i have albums of stuff that i never look through.....

-Lis

[JazmenFlowers]

George? :shrug:
may be...man, I'm embarassed to forget that.

[mylittledemon]

oooo did I really? :p I should go dig up my old pictures, i have albums of stuff that i never look through.....

-Lis

You sure did Lis, in fact, it was the photo that appears at the top of Lindsey's forum. The one where he's looking down at his guitar. It was a great pic. I think you did that for the low, low price of $20! haha...I still have it too!

[Johnny Stew]

Not a lot of people left from those days- you, David, Johnny Stew, maybe?Yep, I was here back then, too!

chiliD was one of the first people I started talking with in the early days (back when he was "Surf City Steve")... I loved picking his brain on all things Fleetwood Mac... and we're still friends. Same with David O., George (who no longer posts on the Ledge, but we're still good friends), Patti, and a small handful of others.

There are also some Ledgies who I really don't get a chance to talk with much anymore, but I still consider them to be friends. :)

[Livia]

I joined the Ledge in 1997 - I've met lots of Ledgies in person and a couple of them are my closest, dearest, friends.

Aaah! The green cup! LOL

Edit: I'm the proud owner of one of those Crystal Visions tapes. ;-)

[goldustsongbird]

for me, it's Johnny Stew...back in 97/98, it was him, Travis, someone else I can't remember to save my life and me that I remember. Travis still comes on once in a while...

...ahh...the days of the "keepers" of various Stevie/FM items and putting together the Crystal Visions tape...good times!

I was the keeper of Sisters of the Moon and Stevie's moon necklace. I remember someone was the keeper of Christine's neon green cup from The Dance video. :lol:


Ohh, you guys had the "keepers" thing, too?! We had that on the XFiles forum. I thought we were the only fandom that did that. :lol:

[Jyqm]

Yes we go waaaay back. However we didn't become friends on the ledge, so that's why I didn't include you. I was thinking of people I met specifically on the ledge. Whereas you & I were both posting on amfm back pre-reunion days, along with sMac & Nepotist chris & remember that nice guy Chris Small who lived in Davis? Wonder what ever happened to him.

I only jumped on the bandwagon after The Dance, but I rather enjoyed those old AMFM days, particularly because of David and the Steves. In my best Cartman voice (and my best is pretty good): I love you guys...

[JazmenFlowers]

Edit: I'm the proud owner of one of those Crystal Visions tapes. ;-)
I have mine in with all of my other collectibles. I love the artwork!

[JazmenFlowers]

Ohh, you guys had the "keepers" thing, too?! We had that on the XFiles forum. I thought we were the only fandom that did that. :lol:
yeppers. it was quite fun.

[Johnny Stew]

I love the artwork!Thanks!... I drew Stevie's eyes for that. :o

[Miss Vicky]

Ohh, you guys had the "keepers" thing, too?! We had that on the XFiles forum. I thought we were the only fandom that did that. :lol:


We have "keepers" on the Joaquin Phoenix boards that I sometimes visit. I'm not a keeper of anything, though.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if you X-philes are the originators of them. Wasn't it the X-files fans that originated the term "shipper"?

[David]

I only jumped on the bandwagon after The Dance, but I rather enjoyed those old AMFM days, particularly because of David and the Steves. In my best Cartman voice (and my best is pretty good): I love you guys...
The seasons, they go round & round
The painted ponies go up & down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return, we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round & round & round
In the circle game

[goldustsongbird]

We have "keepers" on the Joaquin Phoenix boards that I sometimes visit. I'm not a keeper of anything, though.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if you X-philes are the originators of them. Wasn't it the X-files fans that originated the term "shipper"?

I notice it's a pretty common thing now, especially on Livejournal. Joaquin fan, eh? Good taste. :thumbsup:

Yep, we did!

[Miss Vicky]

Joaquin fan, eh? Good taste. :thumbsup:

Yes. Yes indeed.


http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/ledgepics/vanityfair0306_01.jpg

[macfanken]

I joined the Ledge in 1997 - I've met lots of Ledgies in person and a couple of them are my closest, dearest, friends.

Aaah! The green cup! LOL

Edit: I'm the proud owner of one of those Crystal Visions tapes. ;-)


My Crystal Visions tape died last year... it was a sad moment. :lol:

Hmmm... I've been here since '97, just a few months before "The Dance. I remember a few names from the early days... most of the people I was friendly with back then are gone... I think Mari, Chili and David are my oldest ledgie friends.

[BTFLCHLD]

june 2004
you do the math

[Jyqm]

The seasons, they go round & round
The painted ponies go up & down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return, we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round & round & round
In the circle game


I wish I knew how to quit you.

[Mari]

My Crystal Visions tape died last year... it was a sad moment. :lol:

Hmmm... I've been here since '97, just a few months before "The Dance. I remember a few names from the early days... most of the people I was friendly with back then are gone... I think Mari, Chili and David are my oldest ledgie friends.

isn't that ironic? it's us blackledgies who are amongst the ones that stuck around the longest ;)

[David]

isn't that ironic? it's us blackledgies who are amongst the ones that stuck around the longest ;)Yes but that's because your board is as dead as a doornail! :laugh:

[eclipse]

That is why it is fun to came and hang out with you guys
Who want's to talk to 12 or 13 year old girls/goodie two shoes types??

Give me drama and excitment and some insight, education or at least worldly wisdom and enlightenment-anyday!

[seeker007nmss]

Give me drama and excitment and some insight, education or at least worldly wisdom and enlightenment-anyday!


Lets not forget annoying fluffy pictures!


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/tiguak.jpg

[Miss Vicky]

Lets not forget annoying fluffy pictures!


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/tiguak.jpg

You'll just take any ol' excuse to break those damn things out; won't you, Jim?

[SteveMacD]

Yes we go waaaay back. However we didn't become friends on the ledge, so that's why I didn't include you. I was thinking of people I met specifically on the ledge. Whereas you & I were both posting on amfm back pre-reunion days, along with sMac & Nepotist chris & remember that nice guy Chris Small who lived in Davis? Wonder what ever happened to him.
Don't forget about Marty & Lisa! They were there back in the day, too! There was also Joe Admire (the guy who founded AMFM) and Jeff Kenney (who had the Chain Gang, now the FM discography). Then, later, there was Jyqm and Homer. Chris small was a great guy. People sometimes accused us of being the same person, as our posts had a similar tone. Which is partially why I became a sarcastic prick those first few years (damn you Google, damn you)! I think I got him a copy of John McVie's Gotta Band at Best Buy. THE funniest thing I remember about that newsgroup, though, was when somebody asked about music for "Songbird" and somebody who now runs an official site said that he had never heard of that song, but maybe the person was thinking about Stevie's "Nightbird."

Of course, there was that OTHER element, too. James P. Nalbandia, anyone? Or, the oddly similar Jaydee69?

But, here's perhaps my most legendary, and oddly ironic in hindsight, post EVER! (Funnier, still, that there still seems to be many of the same debates going on today.)



From: Smacdoug - view profile
Date: Sun, Mar 31 1996 12:00 am
Email: [email protected] (Smacdoug)
Groups: alt.music.fleetwood-mac
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I had an interesting weekend.

On Friday, I called up Mick and Bekka's management company as well as John McVie's management company and both said that Fleetwood Mac has broken up. My personal take is that it was a mutual decision.

However, I called Stubner management a second time, and the secretary said that they were on hiatus. I'm not really sure what's going on. I don't know if it's just that they don't have any current plans or if it's a premanent thing. What I do know is that there is not going to be a reunion of the Rumours line-up (in fact, he laughed at the suggestion).

So, I think that we can end all discussions about an Odd Chance Of A Rumours Reunion and Bekka Singing Stevie Songs. The point is that they're, at least for the time being, history.

Hey, at least I put "at least for the time being" in the tag. I mean, I did leave the door open for such a thing...Okay, more like I propped the door open with a used text book from a class I dropped that is now being used as a door prop, coaster, and serving tray, but the point is the door wasn't completely closed.


Oh, yeah, I remember MacDougall from the waaaay back, too...he had his own FMac website AND he was running that really cool Dave Mason site, as well. :thumbsup:

Ah..."Sweet Music." Boy, that was a fun website. I got to chat with a lot of great Dave Mason fans, Steve Winwood fans, and Traffic fans. Good times.

[seeker007nmss]

You'll just take any ol' excuse to break those damn things out; won't you, Jim?


break what out? (And shouldn't you be working on something rather than being on here? EC perhaps? :lol: :) ) I know, such a slavedriver.....:thumbsup:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/babypolarbear.jpg

[Miss Vicky]

(And shouldn't you be working on something rather than being on here? EC perhaps? :lol: :) ) I know, such a slavedriver


Hey, the damn thing is already six years in the making, so what's another week or two? Or month for that matter?

I reached 55,000 but I'm still not satisfied. Who knows if I ever will be. I swear this talent is a curse not a gift.

[GarboSpeaks!]

oooo did I really? I should go dig up my old pictures, i have albums of stuff that i never look through.....

-Lis

That's just WRONG! :laugh: Gotta rotate that stuff. Take it out AT A MINIMUM every 4-6 months. LOL

I'm grateful to have met Tiff, but not thru the Ledge. Not even sure when she came on board, but her and I have known each other now about 6 years maybe. That's a good healthy start. :blob1: She's the one that was like "you must come to the Ledge." LOL. Bless her heart!

[amber]

That's just WRONG! :laugh: Gotta rotate that stuff. Take it out AT A MINIMUM every 4-6 months. LOL

I'm grateful to have met Tiff, but not thru the Ledge. Not even sure when she came on board, but her and I have known each other now about 6 years maybe. That's a good healthy start. :blob1: She's the one that was like "you must come to the Ledge." LOL. Bless her heart!
Doesn't that mean you met her when she was...13 or something? How did that happen?

[Mari]

Yes but that's because your board is as dead as a doornail! :laugh:

you mean Phil's board?

oh shush;)

[goldustsongbird]

Yes. Yes indeed.


http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/ledgepics/vanityfair0306_01.jpg

Mmm, that picture. 'twas my desktop for awhile.

[Miss Vicky]

Mmm, that picture. 'twas my desktop for awhile.

Awhile? I can't imagine what you would have replaced it with. I mean, what could possibly be more beautiful than that??

[seeker007nmss]

Awhile? A can't imagine what you would have replaced it with. I mean, what could possibly be more beautiful than that??

I think this is much cuter.


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/s991103a.jpg

[Miss Vicky]

I think this is much cuter.


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Dreamtimezzz/s991103a.jpg

You're wrong. But it is cute.

On the subject of EC, I just finished re-reading it for the 15 billionth time and I'm beginning to think that maybe I should just leave it as is and start sending it to publishers. That way if I can get myself a contract I can finally call it done and stop obsessing over the f*cking thing. What do ya think?

:shrug:

[seeker007nmss]

You're wrong. But it is cute.

On the subject of EC, I just finished re-reading it for the 15 billionth time and I'm beginning to think that maybe I should just leave it as is and start sending it to publishers. That way if I can get myself a contract I can finally call it done and stop obsessing over the f*cking thing. What do ya think?

:shrug:

Sorry, that picture does nothing for me. (Okay I am straight. Maybe that has something to do with it)

Couldn't hurt. Have you tried finding an agent? I watch those book things on CSPN2 and they talk about agents alot in getting published. :shrug:

[Miss Vicky]

Have you tried finding an agent?

I'm undecided on the whole agent thing. I know I could probably have better luck and get published by a bigger firm if I go with an agent, but that also means giving up a chunk of whatever profits I make from my hard work. Also, going with an agent means having to find one that A) Is willing to represent my work and B) I trust enough to do it well.

[amber]

Okay I am straight.

So you say....












:p

Joaquin creeps me out with his hairlip and his drug eyes. Good actor though, acts circles around his brother, who I thought was obscenely overrated. I can totally get behind that baby panda, though.

[cliffdweller]

Don't forget about Marty & Lisa! They were there back in the day, too! There was also Joe Admire (the guy who founded AMFM) and Jeff Kenney (who had the Chain Gang, now the FM discography). Then, later, there was Jyqm and Homer. Chris small was a great guy. People sometimes accused us of being the same person, as our posts had a similar tone. Which is partially why I became a sarcastic prick those first few years (damn you Google, damn you)! I think I got him a copy of John McVie's Gotta Band at Best Buy. THE funniest thing I remember about that newsgroup, though, was when somebody asked about music for "Songbird" and somebody who now runs an official site said that he had never heard of that song, but maybe the person was thinking about Stevie's "Nightbird."

Of course, there was that OTHER element, too. James P. Nalbandia, anyone? Or, the oddly similar Jaydee69?

But, here's perhaps my most legendary, and oddly ironic in hindsight, post EVER! (Funnier, still, that there still seems to be many of the same debates going on today.)




Hey, at least I put "at least for the time being" in the tag. I mean, I did leave the door open for such a thing...Okay, more like I propped the door open with a used text book from a class I dropped that is now being used as a door prop, coaster, and serving tray, but the point is the door wasn't completely closed.



Ah..."Sweet Music." Boy, that was a fun website. I got to chat with a lot of great Dave Mason fans, Steve Winwood fans, and Traffic fans. Good times.


Nice Guided By Voices sig pic! :thumbsup:

[chiliD]

Yes but that's because your board is as dead as a doornail! :laugh:

Your board, too, David...you're still a member in good standing...even though you can never remember your damned password. :lol: :lol:

[seeker007nmss]

So you say....

.


Hey, Hey, Hey.... I dropped the flannel and chainsaw references missy, so play nice! :p :lol:

[David]

Your board, too, David...you're still a member in good standing...even though you can never remember your damned password. :lol: :lol:Eh. They wouldn't know me if I stood up in their soup.

I'm a rebel. I'm a rogue. I'm a force of nature. I'm a subduction-zone quake on a hidden fault plane. I march to the beat of the drums I hear in my duodenum, the timpani I hear in my torso, the bongos I hear in my body, the clackers I hear in my clavicord, the pianos I hear in my pancreas, the plectra I hear in my solarplexis. :cool:

[Johnny Stew]

I march to the beat of the drums I hear in my duodenum, the timpani I hear in my torso, the bongos I hear in my body, the clackers I hear in my clavicord, the pianos I hear in my pancreas, the plectra I hear in my solarplexis. :cool:Where exactly do you hear the bells? :D

[chiliD]

Where exactly do you hear the bells? :D

In his own personal hell. :lol:

[GarboSpeaks!]

Doesn't that mean you met her when she was...13 or something? How did that happen?


Yes Amber. I am a Macophile! LMAO! Actually, I've yet to encounter one person met online that wasn't a youngen! Sounds sick, but it's totally accidental. Well, first I met Tiff, she was I wanna say 15 or 16, so I guess that makes my timeline incorrect. Upon finding out her age (I was talking a storm bout meeting her on my next trip to LA) she tells me how old she is. Stunned, I ask if I can speak w/ her mother. Explain I am a married normal (depending on who you ask)woman, and was so enthralled w/ her interest in FM/SN I wasn't thinking age :o

Later after befriending Tiff, I meet this other guy at a show. He and his mom. He & I hit it off. He's friggin' 16! SOB! Can I meet others MY AGE!?!?!?!?!? So they both sorta give me a hard time...but all w/ love :p

[SteveMacD]

Nice Guided By Voices sig pic! :thumbsup:
It's a Dayton thing...:thumbsup:

[HomerMcvie]

It's a Dayton thing...:thumbsup:
OHHHHH! Steve, is that Bob???? If so, I didn't recongnize him without the gray hair!:lol:

[skcin]

Yes Amber. I am a Macophile! LMAO! Actually, I've yet to encounter one person met online that wasn't a youngen! Sounds sick, but it's totally accidental. Well, first I met Tiff, she was I wanna say 15 or 16, so I guess that makes my timeline incorrect. Upon finding out her age (I was talking a storm bout meeting her on my next trip to LA) she tells me how old she is. Stunned, I ask if I can speak w/ her mother. Explain I am a married normal (depending on who you ask)woman, and was so enthralled w/ her interest in FM/SN I wasn't thinking age :o

Later after befriending Tiff, I meet this other guy at a show. He and his mom. He & I hit it off. He's friggin' 16! SOB! Can I meet others MY AGE!?!?!?!?!? So they both sorta give me a hard time...but all w/ love :p

Did you know Tiff for a long time when I met you guys at the L.A. rehearsal? That was just over 3 years ago. I actually knew of Tiff through Mick's Board at first, then came here.