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EnchantedSLN
04-23-2006, 08:41 PM
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UnwindedDreams
04-23-2006, 08:45 PM
I'm so glad she posted new ones and said she would do another solo album:blob2: :blob1: Can't wait...she said she was sure she would do one over time:woohoo:

SapphireSister
04-23-2006, 09:28 PM
Thanks for posting that Tiff. I was wondering what she was up to upon her return from Aus/NZ so it's nice to hear from her. Sounds like she's relaxing and taking the time to answer some of our questions on her site. Good news to hear she's not totally opposed to doing another solo album like she said a couple of months ago but who knows how long "somewhere down the line" will mean and if it will be new, unreleased material so I'm not getting too excited over here.

In response to her statement about myspace being evil, I guess that means she doesn't frequent Jessie's page too often :laugh:. And IMO myspace CAN be evil! But seriously she is from a different generation so I'm not totally surprised by her statement. I'd love to sit down with her and show her all the "Stevies" on myspace and how people actually think it's her. No wonder she thinks it's evil.

tynan88
04-23-2006, 10:07 PM
I am shocked she knows what myspace is, and I think that is a pretty fair judgement, and she must know a bit about it to be able to say something like that.

WelshWitchPMD
04-23-2006, 10:09 PM
I was surprised that she even knew what a MySpace was.:laugh: Thanks for posting that info Tiff. I guess that she will never answer my question.:shrug:

tynan88
04-23-2006, 10:10 PM
I was surprised that she even knew what a MySpace was.:laugh: Thanks for posting that info Tiff. I guess that she will never answer my question.:shrug:

Great minds think alike Pattie :laugh:

ryan8472
04-23-2006, 10:43 PM
I was surprised that she even knew what a MySpace was.:laugh:
It means she must look at them all. ;) :laugh: :nod:

Hawkeye
04-23-2006, 10:46 PM
Her answers suck compared to John :laugh:

jwd
04-23-2006, 10:47 PM
She seems like such a technology prude lately.

Come on now. You have to admit, she is an ardent advocate of Ipods. She could be taking cassette players, or even worse, 8-tracks, to all our brave soldiers. :D

BTFLCHLD
04-23-2006, 10:52 PM
she probably states they are evil as she took a peek...
notice john placed the 'stevie:myspace" disclaimer on the 16th
and as to her answers im not surprised she isnt as open as john...
i mean really...i personally wouldnt give much either based on the
majority of rips she receives when she does. but thats my opinion.

:wavey:

Phoenix
04-23-2006, 11:44 PM
Thanks for posting those. Those were good. I too am slightly suspicious of myspace. but it has it's pros and cons.. Anyway, good to hear that shes at least got it in her mind to do another album.:thumbsup:

Ghost_Tracker
04-24-2006, 12:02 AM
http://www.nicksfix.com/askstevie.htm

Question 134 - from Glenda Scott in Wartburg TN









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Question 130 - from Judy in Saint Cloud MN
Hi Stevie!
Do you have a myspace.com page?

Stevie's answer:

Hi Judy, no I don’t. I think they are evil. Seriously, I think myspace.com has the potential to be a very dangerous site.





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NOT to be a party-poop but I feel that she really does have a very good point. One in five children is solicited for sex online. It's getting to be REALLY bad and in my opinion myspace.com really is getting to be very, very dangerous. I certainly would NEVER let my kids use it (once I have kids).
Old fashioned? Yes, but people who have children who don't die sometimes are.

Sorry to be such a **** about it but it really is getting to be very dangerous.
56,000 adults are online right this very second looking for children to have sex with. What percent of those is a crazy murderer?

diamondsnake
04-24-2006, 12:06 AM
I don't understand my friends who have "Myspace" accounts. It seems like a waste of time and rather lame. I admit, I have taken a look at a couple Myspace pages, and it looks so sad! People post pictures of themselves with their best "bedroom eyes" look, which ends up looking pathetic 99% of the time. And then there are all those stories about sexual predators....

And, friends from school will come up to me and say "You'll never believe what _____ said to me on myspace!!!" And I just want to strangle them and say "Are you crazy? It's not even real life!"

To make a long story short, I agree with Stevie! Oh, and yippee about her plans to do an album in the future! :)

David
04-24-2006, 12:10 AM
apparently, MySpace serves some useful purpose, too. Just the other day, a school massacre was prevented when students reported the plot given on MySpace to the authorities.

One & all breathed a sigh of relief.

Ghost_Tracker
04-24-2006, 12:14 AM
apparently, MySpace serves some useful purpose, too. Just the other day, a school massacre was prevented when students reported the plot given on MySpace to the authorities.

One & all breathed a sigh of relief.


Well, yeah, perhaps I should add that it has its good side too, and can even be fun. I think ultimately it's up to the parents or guardians to supervise; but I think she's wise to bring this to people's attention and let them know that the supposed "Stevie" sites on myspace are fake, and that she feels it's dangerous. If you really think about it, maybe this is "Lawsuit City" for her. ( ANYTHING is Lawsuit City, after all... )

I kinda get the impression Stevie "rifles off" some of these responses kind of quickly (dictating them to Karen or someone, I suppose) and doesn't exactly spend 5 hours thinking about how to phrase things 100% correctly.

Nice of her to do this at all, though - nothing like that on Madonna's website, for example.

Anyway though, I can certainly understand somebody from Stevie's "age group" being down on something like myspace and seeing the negative a lot more than the positive - being 57 it's probably something that wouldn't interest her in the FIRST place so she probably sees the bad more than the good. I betcha her Dad wasn't too keen on this "Color TV" stuff at first - letting X-RAYS into the HOUSE!? Not MY house!!! (etc.)

THINKABOUTIT
04-24-2006, 12:15 AM
I admit sometimes technology is a bother...but without it none of us would have all the demos we have :blob1: Well....most of mine were still on cassette and cd, come on!! :laugh: However, and this is just my humble opinion....I do think myspace is dangerous.....it has been in the news recently for a reason....also....I know people who have an account/page and say that people are creepy who send them messages...I know some people use it as it was intended; to find old friends, etc..etc...but, I agree with "Diamondsnake" in that it is soo lame and a waste of time for most kids. I am a teacher, and the smarter more advanced students are the ones who have the t-shirts that make fun of my space :laugh: I am a child of the 70's and I agree with Stevie often about technology...I don't think it's necessarily a thing with HER generation ;)

BTFLCHLD
04-24-2006, 12:21 AM
One & all breathed a sigh of relief.
and for those that arent reported
ONE & ALL RUN FOR THE HILLS!!! :nod:

EnchantedSLN
04-24-2006, 12:57 AM
Yes, and the overwhelming majority of sexual abuse against children is committed in their own homes by a parent or relative. It's Internet predators that get the most media attention, though. Of course abuse & predation is tragic and should not happen under any circumstances! Not saying there's no danger, but that's true of anything online. Parents should talk to their kids and supervise net usage to some degree. And yes, if you're so absorbed that you conflate MySpace with real life, and sit at your computer all day, then that's kinda sad and you should probably find another hobby. Sadly there are a lot of people that fit the "MySpace stereotype" who do nothing but take pictures of themselves from a billion angles and fill their pages with giant blinking crap :laugh:. If it's not your bag, that's cool, but not everyone who uses it is a predator or social retard. Some find it a convenient way to discover independent music and keep up with people they don't necessarily see/talk to/e-mail with on a regular basis. Honestly, the technology and general idea behind it is not that different from this or any other message board... it just depends what you do with it. Just sayin'.

(By the way, I'm not ragging on Stevie for disapproving. I agree that she has a point. In general I think people would do well to spend a little less time online and a little more time outside or doing other stuff. Myself included, sometimes! ;) I just thought the statement "they are evil" was funny.)

THINKABOUTIT
04-24-2006, 01:22 AM
:D Well said Tiff :thumbsup:

paperflowers
04-24-2006, 03:36 AM
NOT to be a party-poop but I feel that she really does have a very good point. One in five children is solicited for sex online. It's getting to be REALLY bad and in my opinion myspace.com really is getting to be very, very dangerous. I certainly would NEVER let my kids use it (once I have kids).
Old fashioned? Yes, but people who have children who don't die sometimes are.

Sorry to be such a **** about it but it really is getting to be very dangerous.
56,000 adults are online right this very second looking for children to have sex with. What percent of those is a crazy murderer?


MySpace has also gotten alot of bad press lately my bet is that is where she picked up on the "stranger danger" at my space.

I do have children a 16 girl and a 12 boy; in my house MySpace and chats like those found on yahoo ect are off limits (special interest one's like for my daughter who is way into current events/politics its alright on occasion) IM's are ok but I monitor that heavily.....SO I agree with Stevie here.

I also wonder if that whole thing on the nicksfix saying she does not have a site isnt regarding some larger incident...didn't the stroke rumor start there?

jannieC
04-24-2006, 08:43 AM
I think MySpace is fun. That being said, I think it's creepy, too. If I were Stevie and saw people posing as me, and others believing it, I'd think it was pretty evil, too. I doubt she's talking about sexual predators, but I could be wrong.

Janis_no1
04-24-2006, 08:58 AM
hmm i remember there was a pot up about myspace but i dont remembmer what it was about.... i dont know what this myspace is... Was someone impersonating her???

anywho i went to this myspace and did a seach on stevie nicks and saw this pic on someones page.... all iw ant to know is why haven't i seen this pic before...

http://www.myspace.com/the_gypsy_that_remains

tynan88
04-24-2006, 09:19 AM
I think Stevie has a problem with the kind of social interaction it can create as well, ie: you can talk to someone in America better than you can talk to your neighbour.

I am pretty sure that idea is consistent with something Stevie has said before about Jessica always being stuck in front of the computer, I just can't remember exactly where I read it though.

Enchanted_Stevi
04-24-2006, 09:40 AM
I was REALLY suprised that Stevie ACTUALLY knew what myspace was!!!! :laugh: But I love myspace....lol.....All of my freinds on myspace are ppl I go to schoolw ith and some of my Stevie freinds

estranged4life
04-24-2006, 09:49 AM
I admit sometimes technology is a bother...but without it none of us would have all the demos we have :blob1: Well....most of mine were still on cassette and cd, come on!! :laugh: However, and this is just my humble opinion....I do think myspace is dangerous.....it has been in the news recently for a reason....also....I know people who have an account/page and say that people are creepy who send them messages...


I use the internet to feed my music addiction/habit, And without it I would never have found all the goodies I own (ie-Bootleg collection) as easily as I have....Yes, I own cassettes too!

I have never participated on myspace, so I am clueless to what is going on over there, though I hear about it (Negatively of course) on TV on a near daily basis. I do know that all my online friends/enemies :lol: are over here on the Ledge, So why else would I need to head over to myspace? Hell, I am nearly frikkin' 36 years old...I dont relate well to the younger crowd online whatsoever.

Richard B
04-24-2006, 09:51 AM
I'm not surprised Stevie has heard about myspace. It's been posted on her "official" website that she does not have a myspace. I'm sure she has been made aware of this, especially to make sure a comment about that is on her site.

A friend and I have laughed and called myspace evil, more as a joke. Mostly because their are a lot of perverts on there (men and women). It's so lame it's funny. But then the world is filled with pervs and other less than desirable losers, internet or not.

DavidMn
04-24-2006, 10:18 AM
Here's the thing with me. I dont think its evil, however there have been several incidents of students falsely starting sites in the names of their teachers accusing them of being anything from nazi's to child molesters. Very bad.

David
04-24-2006, 11:04 AM
If it's not your bag, that's cool, but not everyone who uses it is a predator or social retard. Some find it a convenient way to discover independent music and keep up with people they don't necessarily see/talk to/e-mail with on a regular basis. Honestly, the technology and general idea behind it is not that different from this or any other message board... it just depends what you do with it. Just sayin'.

By the way, I'm not ragging on Stevie for disapproving.If you won't, then I will. I think it's time Madame Nicks stopped insulting Internet users. She & her former fan-mail lady & others in her circle have been doing this since I've been online (c. early 1990s).

Some of my friends don't like or use the Internet, either. But they don't, out of ignorance of the whole scene, stand there & pronounce the entire culture depraved. Nicks has some sort of weird ax to grind with regard to the Net & its users, & I wish she'd work through it already & move on to another crusade.

BTFLCHLD
04-24-2006, 11:10 AM
stand there & pronounce the entire culture depraved

where specifically has she stated any of this david?

danax6
04-24-2006, 11:14 AM
If you won't, then I will. I think it's time Madame Nicks stopped insulting Internet users. She & her former fan-mail lady & others in her circle have been doing this since I've been online (c. early 1990s).

Some of my friends don't like or use the Internet, either. But they don't, out of ignorance of the whole scene, stand there & pronounce the entire culture depraved. Nicks has some sort of weird ax to grind with regard to the Net & its users, & I wish she'd work through it already & move on to another crusade.Who says she's ignorant? She's got a teenager nearby, I bet Jessie knows exactly what MySpace is. And even then so, who's to say Stevie doesn't like to do some surfing herself?

Btw, I don't think a dig at MySpace is directly a dig to the entire internet. I share her opinions regarding the music business and the internet. If the internet screwed up one thing, it's that.

DavidMn
04-24-2006, 11:16 AM
Who says she's ignorant? She's got a teenager nearby, I bet Jessie knows exactly what MySpace is. And even then so, who's to say Stevie doesn't like to do some surfing herself?

Btw, I don't think a dig at MySpace is directly a dig to the entire internet. I share her opinions regarding the music business and the internet. If the internet screwed up one thing, it's that.I couldnt agree more with your last statement.:nod:

PenguinHead
04-24-2006, 11:23 AM
Her answers suck compared to John :laugh:

For some reason, I get the feeling that Stevie isn't the person who is directly responding to the questions. I sense that, perhaps, she gives verbal answers to an assistant who then regurgitates them into terse, edited responses.

But then again, as chatty as Stevie often is, she can be very guarded. Her responses in various interviews sometimes land with a thud.

John is a surprisingly open, warm, humble and unpretentious man, which comes across so genuinely in his answers. His responses -- so off-the-cuff and honest -- make me feel almost like I'm sitting with a friend...just sharing a little conversation.

Sure, I wish that Stevie's responses have the same qualities as John's. It just goes to show how distinct their personalities are from each other.

Jyqm
04-24-2006, 11:35 AM
I share her opinions regarding the music business and the internet. If the internet screwed up one thing, it's that.

The Internet hasn't "screwed up" the music business any more than the printing press "screwed up" the publishing industry. The Internet is opening up whole new worlds of opportunities for musicians who otherwise might never have a chance to be noticed or get their music out to the public. Just because the embittered monks in the cloisters of the major record labels are pissing and moaning because nobody wants to buy their over-priced gilded manuscripts of crap anymore doesn't mean the music business is "screwed up." And if it is, it's their own fault. Greedy, reactionary record company executives are the enemy here, not the Internet.

Livia
04-24-2006, 11:57 AM
^^^^ :thumbsup:

danax6
04-24-2006, 12:02 PM
The Internet hasn't "screwed up" the music business any more than the printing press "screwed up" the publishing industry. The Internet is opening up whole new worlds of opportunities for musicians who otherwise might never have a chance to be noticed or get their music out to the public. Just because the embittered monks in the cloisters of the major record labels are pissing and moaning because nobody wants to buy their over-priced gilded manuscripts of crap anymore doesn't mean the music business is "screwed up." And if it is, it's their own fault. Greedy, reactionary record company executives are the enemy here, not the Internet.I respectfully disagree. Nobody complained about greedy record company executives before music was available for free. Sure, you might have thought that LP's and CD's were expensive, but everybody dutifully ran to the store to buy them anyway. And what are they to do these days but increase prices when the profits continue to decrease? It's a whole messed up circle, and yes, I still blame the internet for that ever happening. Nobody listens to albums anymore, nobody is lying on the ground smoking dope thinking about what their next record their going to buy is (thanks, Stevie). She's completely right when she says it's all fragmented these days, it comes and goes, like a fast roller coaster.

Another point of view. I manage a videostore, and 7 years ago, when I just started working there, business was blooming. Nowadays I am wondering if I will still have a job in 6 months. And I swear, every time a person comes walking in and doesn't rent a DVD because 'they have downloaded them all from the internet already', I want to bitch slap them.

gldstwmn
04-24-2006, 12:15 PM
:laugh: Ok, I see her point about MySpace. There have been very unfortunate stories about online sexual predation, and yes, if you get carried away and sit at the computer all day, it can be a very unproductive thing. But "they are evil"? She seems like such a technology prude lately.

I just wonder when she became so closed to anything new or different. It's not just myspace. I think a lot of us have noticed it in her comments lately.
I also thought she could have given a much better answer to Chris's question. We've come to expect the short answers from her though.

Jyqm
04-24-2006, 12:27 PM
I respectfully disagree. Nobody complained about greedy record company executives before music was available for free.

Are you kidding? Where've you been? People have been complaining about greedy record company executives for years, particularly since the advent of CDs. Charging between seventeen and twenty dollars or Euro for a disc that costs a mere pittance to manufacture, remarkably little profit from the sale of which goes to artists, is beyond greedy.

And what are they to do these days but increase prices when the profits continue to decrease?

Uh, lowering their prices would be a good start, actually. When your profits are down and you're losing customers, raising prices is absolutely the last thing you ought to do.

Adopting new business models to take advantage of all of the possibilities the Internet has to offer wouldn't be a terrible idea either. The number of songs and albums being purchased and downloaded from legal online music stores grows more rapidly every day.

Or how about this for a crazy idea: start nurturing artists with talent and potential for longevity, instead of pushing dispoable crap to the top of the charts for a week while offering virtually no support to artists who don't immediately perform commercially. All of the consumer polls that the major labels and the RIAA have done over the past few years have indicated that people are willing to pay reasonable prices for music they think is worthwhile, but more and more people feel that the music getting the most publicity is getting crappier and crappier.

There are loads of obvious solutions for how the major labels can fix their failing business models and win back consumers, but none of them are interested in hearing it. It's just as well. They'll go the way of the dinosaur soon enough, and we'll have plenty of smaller and independent labels, along with Internet-based companies, who will know how to meet their consumers' desires.

Sure, you might have thought that LP's and CD's were expensive, but everybody dutifully ran to the store to buy them anyway.

Everybody, huh?

Nobody listens to albums anymore, nobody is lying on the ground smoking dope thinking about what their next record their going to buy is (thanks, Stevie).

Nobody, huh?

She's completely right when she says it's all fragmented these days, it comes and goes, like a fast roller coaster.

The fragmentation of popular music has nothing to do with the Internet. It started happening long ago. I'm sure Stevie would like to remember the mid-70s as one big ol' party where everybody was unified by good ol' rock & roll, but nothing could be further from the truth. Even then, popular music was moving far away from the over-arching umbrella of pop/rock: punk, soul, disco, rap, new wave, funk, prog... and that's all before the beginning of the 80s.

estranged4life
04-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Or how about this for a crazy idea: start nurturing artists with talent and potential for longevity, instead of pushing dispoable crap to the top of the charts for a week while offering virtually no support to artists who don't immediately perform commercially. All of the consumer polls that the major labels and the RIAA have done over the past few years have indicated that people are willing to pay reasonable prices for music they think is worthwhile, but more and more people feel that the music getting the most publicity is getting crappier and crappier.

There are loads of obvious solutions for how the major labels can fix their failing business models and win back consumers, but none of them are interested in hearing it. It's just as well. They'll go the way of the dinosaur soon enough, and we'll have plenty of smaller and independent labels, along with Internet-based companies, who will know how to meet their consumers' desires.

Amen to yer post!!!! If the music industry wants to blame the internet for sagging sales, fine...But the music industry exects were screwing the industry up long before the internet & music swapping existed.

I guess it is easier for the exects to place blame elsewhere instead of at the reflection in the mirror.

Thank God for half.com & eBay...That is how I purchase nearly all me music needs nowadays (I say about 80% of my purchases). On the rare occassion when I purchase new releases I purchase directly through smaller music labels (ie-Century Media; Never had to pay more than $10 for a new release, which includes shipping...Plus they always include free promo swag)

danax6
04-24-2006, 12:59 PM
Are you kidding? Where've you been? People have been complaining about greedy record company executives for years, particularly since the advent of CDs. Charging between seventeen and twenty dollars or Euro for a disc that costs a mere pittance to manufacture, remarkably little profit from the sale of which goes to artists, is beyond greedy. That's what I said, yet still people bought them. Who was the fool?


Uh, lowering their prices would be a good start, actually. When your profits are down and you're losing customers, raising prices is absolutely the last thing you ought to do. I know there was a reason I flunked Marketing in college.


Or how about this for a crazy idea: start nurturing artists with talent and potential for longevity, instead of pushing dispoable crap to the top of the charts for a week while offering virtually no support to artists who don't immediately perform commercially. All of the consumer polls that the major labels and the RIAA have done over the past few years have indicated that people are willing to pay reasonable prices for music they think is worthwhile, but more and more people feel that the music getting the most publicity is getting crappier and crappier. Now this we agree on. It's exactly what I was saying that things have become too fragmented. Real talent doesn't have a chance anymore these days, unless you have a big commercial radio hit, big boobs or whatever else people go for nowadays. Music is all about image now, instead of the music. Perhaps you're right when you say the internet has little to do with that, that's a whole other discussion, but it brought forth a whole new culture, and the two are very entwined. You can go back to the 80's indeed and say 'video killed the radio star', I guess that's where it all started.


Everybody, huh?
Nobody, huh? I apologize for generalizing.

And it's not just Stevie. Everybody (or should I say 'most people'?) looks back at the 70's as one big dope smoking party, and I've heard a lot of people say they'd like to go back to that, at least music wise, if they had a choice. Music still meant something back then, and with it came all the charms that are just lost nowadays.

Jyqm
04-24-2006, 01:41 PM
That's what I said, yet still people bought them. Who was the fool?

And people still buy them.

Now this we agree on. It's exactly what I was saying that things have become too fragmented. Real talent doesn't have a chance anymore these days, unless you have a big commercial radio hit, big boobs or whatever else people go for nowadays.

No, real talent does have a chance these days, precisely because of the Internet. Bands are able to get their music out to a surprisingly large public without relying on major record labels. Not only are there dozens of websites dedicated to giving underground musical talent more exposure, and writing intelligent, detailed music reviews and criticism that are available to the public at no cost, but there's also the fact that nearly every band these days has its own website or MySpace page where they can expose the world to their music.

EDIT: In case you'd like a good example. Look at a band like Wilco. They recorded Yankee Hotel Foxtrot in 2001 and were promptly dropped by their wonderful label - Reprise, of course - because it wasn't commercial enough. Now, instead of dicking around for half a decade and then putting the songs on a Fleetwood Mac album, they just put the album up online while they looked for a new contract. All of their fans had the ability to listen to this album for free for nearly a year. Eventually, the band signed with Nonesuch - ironically enough, a subsidiary of Reprise - and released the album in 2002 with only very minor changes. Why would anybody go out and buy this album that had been available for free on the evil Internet for nearly a year? I don't know, but the album has since gone gold. It's the best-selling album of their career, and it's widely regarded among most critics as one of the best albums of the decade so far. Some people even have the audacity to claim that the online buzz surrounding the band's label troubles and their decision to make the album available for free through their website actually helped sales.

Music is all about image now, instead of the music. Perhaps you're right when you say the internet has little to do with that, that's a whole other discussion, but it brought forth a whole new culture, and the two are very entwined. You can go back to the 80's indeed and say 'video killed the radio star', I guess that's where it all started.

Hell no, it started well before that. Beatlemania had at least as much to do with mop tops and matching suits as it did with "I Wanna Hold Your Hand."

And it's not just Stevie. Everybody (or should I say 'most people'?) looks back at the 70's as one big dope smoking party, and I've heard a lot of people say they'd like to go back to that, at least music wise, if they had a choice.

You shouldn't even say most people. Lots of folks still remember that the 70s were filled with a whole lot of ****ty music that was all over the top of the charts. It was no better or worse than today in that regard. Here's a list of some number one songs of the year to jog your memory a bit:

1973: Tony Orlando & Dawn, "Tie A Yellow Ribbon"
1974: Barbra Streisand, "The Way We Were"
1975: Glen Campbell, "Rhinestone Cowboy"
1976: Rod Stewart, "Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright)"
1977: Debby Boone, "You Light Up My Life"
1978: Bee Gees, "Night Fever"

Yes, truly it was a golden age. It's a real shame nobody's turning out hits like these anymore.

Look at the year 1979. This is the year of Tusk, of London Calling, of Fear of Music. And incredible year for popular music, right? And who had the top ten singles? Chic, The Knack, Rod Stewart, The Village People, Donna Summer (twice), Gloria Gaynor, Robert John, KC & The Sunshine Band, The Bee Gees and Peaches & Herb.

Music still meant something back then, and with it came all the charms that are just lost nowadays.

Music still means something now. Go to any music festival and you'll see dozens of great bands pouring their heart and soul into really fantastic music, with thousands of people crowding around the stage experiencing the rapture of seeing one of their favorite bands put on a kickass concert. Walk down the street and you'll see dozens of people completely lost in the world of their iPod, rocking out to whatever strikes their fancy. Music means as much to people now as it ever did. It's just different music, and people are listening to it and loving it in different ways. Meanwhile you just sound bitter and old in a way that you probably told yourself in the 70s you never would, when your parents said the same thing about the music culture that you loved then that you're saying now about today.

Ghost_Tracker
04-24-2006, 02:09 PM
For some reason, I get the feeling that Stevie isn't the person who is directly responding to the questions. I sense that, perhaps, she gives verbal answers to an assistant who then regurgitates them into terse, edited responses.

But then again, as chatty as Stevie often is, she can be very guarded. .

Disclaimer to make sure people don't misunderstand ;) :laugh: --------> I've had some thoughts on this; however, they are just opinions, of course:

I honestly feel that these responses are coming directly from Stevie. It's hard to figure out how to articulate why I feel they're so short but - -
I think she probably has reasons for it. I think she feels a little weird answering questions from someone she can't even see - she's an extroverted "people person" which makes her tend to be very friendly -
in person. (Under certain circumstances - I'm talking, "by nature" she TENDS to be that way.)
If you REALLY think about it - - - wouldn't a written question from a stranger, with a written response, in a strange environment (the Internet) maybe tend to have the exact OPPOSITE effect with her?
So in Stevie's mind, this isn't a "conversation" and she feels no desire to treat it as such. Questions are asked, she politely answers them - - -
"MOVIN' on!. . . ."

But try doing even that on MADONNA'S home page -
good LU-uuuuck!

trackaghost
04-24-2006, 02:42 PM
No, real talent does have a chance these days, precisely because of the Internet. Bands are able to get their music out to a surprisingly large public without relying on major record labels. Not only are there dozens of websites dedicated to giving underground musical talent more exposure, and writing intelligent, detailed music reviews and criticism that are available to the public at no cost, but there's also the fact that nearly every band these days has its own website or MySpace page where they can expose the world to their music.

The Arctic Monkeys are a prime example of this too. They are easily the most talked about band of the past year in the UK and they were playing sold out gigs and festivals, and having record companies chase after them, simply through word of mouth gained through posting demos on their myspace page. Myspace is not always evil it seems, sometimes it's a positive thing.



1973: Tony Orlando & Dawn, "Tie A Yellow Ribbon"
1974: Barbra Streisand, "The Way We Were"
1975: Glen Campbell, "Rhinestone Cowboy"
1976: Rod Stewart, "Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright)"
1977: Debby Boone, "You Light Up My Life"
1978: Bee Gees, "Night Fever"


I happen to like Rhinestone Cowboy.

AliceLover
04-24-2006, 04:10 PM
When I saw that Stevie was answering questions again, I immediatley went to the nicksfix and put one in. Its really all over the place, but theres only like 1 mirror question, so I hope John see's it. I was so excited to see the questions being back up again, i screwed up the question. :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
04-24-2006, 04:17 PM
I love how the people who are the most against MySpace are those who don't use it and admit to knowing very little about it.

It can be dangerous, yes.

Oh - and I really want to commend you parents who either don't allow or chaperone your kids Internet usage. That is one of the big problem - parents who let their young young kids go wild on the Internet.

My sister teaches the sixth grade - even though they're not old enough ALL of her students have MySpace pages...and they don't understand what the problem is. These little 12 year old girls are perfect targets for the pervs out there - and they are out there. But don't punish MySpace - punish the pervs and then freakin' monitor what your kids are doing!! The whole parenting thing is totally falling by the wayside...

Anyway - so Stevie doesn't like MySpace..that is a shame as it could be a great venue for her music and such - BUT she already has the Nicksfix...and doesn't really need a MySpace page. Besides..who would run it?

I, personally, love MySpace. I have found people I never thought I'd see/talk to again and although I've been stalked/pursued by pervs and weirdos - for me the good has outweighed the bad....

skcin
04-24-2006, 04:41 PM
I think she's generalizing - remember how she was complaining about her niece being on the computer all the time? That kids these days are socially retarded because most of their interaction is on the net? I don't think she's meaning Myspace the website, she's probably speaking of the net in general.

BTW - Myspace is fun but also creepy. I, like Deanna, have found people I thought I'd never hear from again, which is great. BUT I've also been propositioned by men despite the fact that Myspace profile states that I'm married, and I don't even have any sexpot whorey pics up. :laugh: My teenage nieces are on it & I get really nervous. I try to keep an eye out for them & remind them not to post too much personal info, but it's scary.

amber
04-24-2006, 04:46 PM
I think she's generalizing - remember how she was complaining about her niece being on the computer all the time? That kids these days are socially retarded because most of their interaction is on the net? I don't think she's meaning Myspace the website, she's probably speaking of the net in general.

BTW - Myspace is fun but also creepy. I, like Deanna, have found people I thought I'd never hear from again, which is great. BUT I've also been propositioned by men despite the fact that Myspace profile states that I'm married, and I don't even have any sexpot whorey pics up. :laugh: My teenage nieces are on it & I get really nervous. I try to keep an eye out for them & remind them not to post too much personal info, but it's scary.
Yeah, I just watched a show where girls thought they were being careful, but still let personal info slip between the three of them (last names, where they were going, etc). A cop posed as a 19 year old kid to see how easy it would be for online predators to get info about girls. They were underage so their myspaces were supposed to be private, but that was part of exposing how easy it is to get to them even if their spaces are private.
It was very easy. They said they added him without checking him out because he was on their friend's spaces, so they thought he was okay.

diamondsnake
04-24-2006, 05:25 PM
Has anyone seen this website?

http://www.myspacesucks.8m.com/

It is kind of funny and in my opinion, 100% true.

JazmenFlowers
04-24-2006, 05:56 PM
I think she's generalizing - remember how she was complaining about her niece being on the computer all the time? That kids these days are socially retarded because most of their interaction is on the net? I don't think she's meaning Myspace the website, she's probably speaking of the net in general.

BTW - Myspace is fun but also creepy. I, like Deanna, have found people I thought I'd never hear from again, which is great. BUT I've also been propositioned by men despite the fact that Myspace profile states that I'm married, and I don't even have any sexpot whorey pics up. :laugh: My teenage nieces are on it & I get really nervous. I try to keep an eye out for them & remind them not to post too much personal info, but it's scary.
yes yes YES! ITA.

DrummerDeanna
04-24-2006, 07:02 PM
Has anyone seen this website?

http://www.myspacesucks.8m.com/

It is kind of funny and in my opinion, 100% true.

:rolleyes: Didn't you already say you don't even USE MySpace...that means you are in no position to judge it. Some great people are on there and not using it for moronic reasons.

Ghost_Tracker
04-24-2006, 07:06 PM
I love how the people who are the most against MySpace are those who don't use it and admit to knowing very little about it.

It can be dangerous, yes.

Oh - and I really want to commend you parents who either don't allow or chaperone your kids Internet usage. That is one of the big problem - parents who let their young young kids go wild on the Internet.

My sister teaches the sixth grade - even though they're not old enough ALL of her students have MySpace pages...and they don't understand what the problem is. These little 12 year old girls are perfect targets for the pervs out there - and they are out there. But don't punish MySpace - punish the pervs and then freakin' monitor what your kids are doing!! The whole parenting thing is totally falling by the wayside...

...

Here's the thing - aren't a lot of them "latch-key kids?" The parents are at work because they literally have no choice. So the computer becomes the "babysitter." Reminds me of "Lord of the Rings," for some silly, strange reason.... I bet a lot of the parents warn their kids - who, naturally, feel they're indestructable and that their parents know NOTHING.
Remember how little your parents knew when you were 12, and how ignorant they were about the world, and how paranoid they were about silly, stupid things?
This gets filed in the same place as "remember to wear your helmet when you're skateboarding" used to...

Ghost_Tracker
04-24-2006, 07:13 PM
MySpace has also gotten alot of bad press lately my bet is that is where she picked up on the "stranger danger" at my space.




Personally, I absolutely, totally, 100% agree with you -
I seriously doubt that this is a coincidence.
SOMEBODY woke up very suddenly and said "oh ****, we'd better address this, and sooner rather than later." :nod:

jannieC
04-24-2006, 07:18 PM
BUT I've also been propositioned by men despite the fact that Myspace profile states that I'm married, and I don't even have any sexpot whorey pics up. :laugh:

Hey, how come I'm not getting propositioned on MySpace, damnit? :distress:

I did just have some guy ask to be my friend, but I've ignored him. Do you think he wants me? :laugh:

MySpace is fun. I do see teenagers being totally stupid on MySpace- the reason I even GOT there was because of my 18 year old step-daughter. When she first showed me her site, I went ballistic- she had skimpy pictures of herself up and listed the TOWN and STATE she lived in! I had to explain to her that some 50 year old man could have been masturbating to her pictures- ew!

I love the surveys, and so does Deanna. As a matter of fact, she does them first and then I steal them. :)

DrummerDeanna
04-24-2006, 07:32 PM
Here's the thing - aren't a lot of them "latch-key kids?" The parents are at work because they literally have no choice. So the computer becomes the "babysitter." Reminds me of "Lord of the Rings," for some silly, strange reason.... I bet a lot of the parents warn their kids - who, naturally, feel they're indestructable and that their parents know NOTHING.
Remember how little your parents knew when you were 12, and how ignorant they were about the world, and how paranoid they were about silly, stupid things?
This gets filed in the same place as "remember to wear your helmet when you're skateboarding" used to...


I know there are a lot of latch key kids - BUT there are ways to keep them off of the Internet. My boss has a teenaged daughter who gets home before the parents. She is not allowed on the computer without parental supervision - so they've password protected the computer. Simple as that. And they have structure and discipline - she knows if she goes against the rules she will be punished.

In today's world parents have tvs, video games, phones and computers in their kids' rooms and think this is ok - this is NOT ok and statistics show that. My sister even did her own little impromptu study of her sixth graders - the ones who had all the above mentioned along with poor parental supervision do the worst in school. Whereas the few kids whose parents are involved and aren't allowed violent games, unlimited Internet and tv etc are doing wonderfully.

So - I still think it comes down on the parents. I was a latchkey kid - BUT I still had structure, and again knew that if I stepped out of line there'd be some hurtin' :laugh:

Bottom line - I just don't think any kid under a certain age should have free and unlimited access to the Internet :shrug:

ThePenguin
04-24-2006, 08:15 PM
I honestly feel that these responses are coming directly from Stevie. It's hard to figure out how to articulate why I feel they're so short but - -
I think she probably has reasons for it. I think she feels a little weird answering questions from someone she can't even see - she's an extroverted "people person" which makes her tend to be very friendly -
in person. (Under certain circumstances - I'm talking, "by nature" she TENDS to be that way.)
If you REALLY think about it - - - wouldn't a written question from a stranger, with a written response, in a strange environment (the Internet) maybe tend to have the exact OPPOSITE effect with her?
So in Stevie's mind, this isn't a "conversation" and she feels no desire to treat it as such. Questions are asked, she politely answers them - - -
"MOVIN' on!. . . ."


I think it's nice that she is making the effort to answer some questions, that alone is wonderful. However, as you said, her mistrust of the internet/computer etc of course colors how she relates in an on-line Q&A. And also, as you said, she is an extrovert, and probably feels more comfortable expressing herself in a 'person to person' forum. That's when you see the real stevie.

John, an introvert, is the opposite. maybe he flourishes behind that computer because IMO he feels 'safe'; he doesn't have the pressure/discomfort/shyness that might be present in 'face to face' type things.

Mick, IMO, would probably not do too well in an on-line Q&A... he'd be like Stevie in that his true self is more fully revealed if he is speaking to a real person. Plus just the typing alone w/ the dylexia etc, I think would be quite a challenge!

Chris has always done really well in 'real people' interview situations, but I also think that if she relaxed and had a secure on-line experience, that her personality might actually shine through too....

And Lindsey.....I don't know about that chap. I love him to pieces... But I don't think he ever really lets his guard down, he sort of hides behind big words and resorts to using the same lines he's always used. I don't think he'd be any different in an on-line setting. I don't think we'd get a feel for the 'real' Lindsey.

Interesting topic though, isn't it?! :p

-Lis, the Q&A ponderer :rolleyes: :)

diamondsnake
04-24-2006, 09:36 PM
:rolleyes: Didn't you already say you don't even USE MySpace...that means you are in no position to judge it. Some great people are on there and not using it for moronic reasons.

I don't have an account, but I have perused the website several times. From the pages I have seen (the ones from kids that go to my school) it is pathetic. But then again, most of the kids that go to my school are pathetic.

My problem is with the people that post pictures of themselves half way naked, giving their most serious movie-star, bedroom-eyes pose. It is just plain sad. And, I think most people would agree.

But, those are just the ones that I have seen. I am sure some people's myspace accounts are not so self indulgent. :)

Rickypt
04-24-2006, 09:39 PM
What bugs me is that 5 years ago I wrote a very intelligent question about Silver Springs in this "ask stevie" process and I've never received an answer. But she'll write to someone who can't even spell out the word "though" and puts "ttyl :)" in her question.

I guess I should have written:

"OMG, Stevie, thank u for answering this. Do U think U and LindZ will get 2gether again?"

Hawkeye
04-24-2006, 10:31 PM
Well I agree that for the most part the questions she recieves are horrible, but in this batch she is asked a GREAT question about a future solo album or any of her future plans and the answer just was bad.

amber
04-25-2006, 12:10 AM
What bugs me is that 5 years ago I wrote a very intelligent question about Silver Springs in this "ask stevie" process and I've never received an answer. But she'll write to someone who can't even spell out the word "though" and puts "ttyl :)" in her question.

I guess I should have written:

"OMG, Stevie, thank u for answering this. Do U think U and LindZ will get 2gether again?"

:laugh: :laugh:

This is probably the same issue I feel most passionate about.

Boots
04-25-2006, 04:08 PM
I recently got into My Space, and find it to be a lot of fun; however, Stevie is correct - there is potential danger there - especially for naive people and young kids who can get drawn into some bad things. I select the people in my space very carefully. It's a great way to discover music, comedians and actors, writers, etc. If you abuse it, or accept anyone as "a friend" - especially if you're an adult and get under age people sending you messages, or if you're a child and weird adults are emailing you..RUN LIKE THE WIND!

Me - I've discovered some great bands, and have hooked up to comedian's sites so I know where and when they are performing. I also goof around with personal friends. When I get a skeevy message from some perve who wants to suck my toes....I tell him to get lost, and then I block him. You have to be very protective because there are people who are using My Space exclusively to find sex...not new bands and comedians. And yes, as per a message upthread - there are some really saaaad people on there. I also never post my own picture on there.

ontheEdgeof17
04-25-2006, 04:29 PM
. From the pages I have seen (the ones from kids that go to my school) it is pathetic.


....as are your previous threads about Stevie's hair and menopause. :wavey:

DrummerDeanna
04-25-2006, 04:42 PM
....as are your previous threads about Stevie's hair and menopause. :wavey:

:laugh: :laugh: I just laughed so hard I think I peed a little :xoxo:

Johnny Stew
04-25-2006, 04:52 PM
....as are your previous threads about Stevie's hair and menopause. :wavey:Wow, Curtie, those claws are getting sharper every day.

wheart
04-25-2006, 05:36 PM
hmm i remember there was a pot up about myspace but i dont remembmer what it was about.... i dont know what this myspace is... Was someone impersonating her???

anywho i went to this myspace and did a seach on stevie nicks and saw this pic on someones page.... all iw ant to know is why haven't i seen this pic before...

http://www.myspace.com/the_gypsy_that_remains


OMG...that pic is absolutely breathtaking! Does anyone know the time period? It looks fairly recent. She looks amazingly hot!!!

BTFLCHLD
04-25-2006, 05:42 PM
OMG...that pic is absolutely breathtaking!

are you referring to this one?
http://i3.tinypic.com/whjm34.jpg

wheart
04-25-2006, 05:46 PM
are you referring to this one?
http://i3.tinypic.com/whjm34.jpg


That's the one!

Enchanted_Stevi
04-25-2006, 05:52 PM
are you referring to this one?
http://i3.tinypic.com/whjm34.jpg


That is NOT Stevie....that is my freind Brooke....she is a Stevie impersonator and she will be performing at NOTS this year

diamondsnake
04-25-2006, 06:09 PM
....as are your previous threads about Stevie's hair and menopause. :wavey:
Is it really that pathetic to have an opinion about Stevie's hair?

And, what have I ever said about menopause? Other than that it was my guess that's what was wrong with her during the SYW tour?

diamondsnake
04-25-2006, 06:20 PM
That is NOT Stevie....that is my freind Brooke....she is a Stevie impersonator and she will be performing at NOTS this year
Wow! That really does look like her unless you look real closely.

Enchanted_Stevi
04-25-2006, 06:37 PM
Wow! That really does look like her unless you look real closely.

I kno it really does look like Stevie!!!!! lol

skcin
04-26-2006, 08:43 AM
Is it really that pathetic to have an opinion about Stevie's hair?

And, what have I ever said about menopause? Other than that it was my guess that's what was wrong with her during the SYW tour?


Dude, for a 17 year old boy, you sure do post an awful lot about her hair, her weight & the effects of menopause on Stevie. :shrug: Just an observation.

Livia
04-26-2006, 09:26 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12459826/?GT1=7938

Texas community college bans MySpace.com
Popular site blocked after complaints of slow network performance

The Associated Press
Updated: 12:45 p.m. ET April 24, 2006

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - Del Mar College students now have to use computers outside the school's system if they want to visit the popular Web site MySpace.com.

The community college has blocked the site in response to complaints about sluggish Internet speed on campus computers.

An investigation found that heavy traffic at MySpace.com was eating up too much bandwidth, said August Alfonso, the school's chief of information and technology. Forty percent of daily Internet traffic at the college involved the site, he said.

"This was more about us being able to offer Web-based instruction, and MySpace.com was slowing everything down," President Carlos Garcia said.

MySpace.com — a social networking hub with more 72 million members — allows users to post searchable profiles that can include photos of themselves and such details as where they live and what music they like.


Paul Martinez, 20, is a frequent visitor to MySpace.com and finds the site to be addictive. Restricting access to the site could be a good idea, he said.

"The library is pretty much full with people on MySpace, and with them banning it you won't have anything to distract you," he said.

Some though, disagree with Del Mar College's decision.

"We pay for school and the resources that are used," said Zeke Santos, 20. "It's our choice, we're the ones paying for our classes. If we pass or fail, it's up to us."

Richard B
04-26-2006, 09:37 AM
Some though, disagree with Del Mar College's decision.

"We pay for school and the resources that are used," said Zeke Santos, 20. "It's our choice, we're the ones paying for our classes. If we pass or fail, it's up to us."
What a clueless twat.
They want to ban it for networking issues. Myspace is very slow and hosted on **** servers, bad code and it does slow down a network significantly. Yes, you pay for the school and resources and all they want to do is improve this. Idiot.

David
04-26-2006, 09:47 AM
What a clueless twat.
They want to ban it for networking issues. Myspace is very slow and hosted on **** servers, bad code and it does slow down a network significantly. Yes, you pay for the school and resources and all they want to do is improve this. Idiot.Stevie hates her Internet fans. She has been brainwashed by some people in her camp that the online fans are all a bunch of psychopaths, so she believes it.

In reality, you can count the online psychopathic Stevie fans on two hands!!
:lol: :lol: :shocked:

DrummerDeanna
04-26-2006, 09:59 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12459826/?GT1=7938


Some though, disagree with Del Mar College's decision.

"We pay for school and the resources that are used," said Zeke Santos, 20. "It's our choice, we're the ones paying for our classes. If we pass or fail, it's up to us."

I weep for the future. What an idiot.

I know that in college I would have been PISSED had I been trying to search Lexus Nexus or something only to have the network totally slowed down by a bunch of slackers "MySpacing Out" There's a time and a place...

cliffdweller
04-26-2006, 10:39 AM
If I were Stevie and saw people posing as me, and others believing it, I'd think it was pretty evil, too. I doubt she's talking about sexual predators, but I could be wrong.


I thought maybe it was a music issue, like people posting unreleased stuff of hers or something like that. I have a myspace page and I don't even know if you can even do that, but, music was the first thing I thought of when she said myspace is evil. We all know how she feels about bootlegs, etc.

Richard B
04-26-2006, 10:46 AM
I thought maybe it was a music issue, like people posting unreleased stuff of hers or something like that. I have a myspace page and I don't even know if you can even do that, but, music was the first thing I thought of when she said myspace is evil. We all know how she feels about bootlegs, etc.
One peek over here and seeing her bootlegs all over the place will seriously get her chiffon in a bunch.

cliffdweller
04-26-2006, 10:51 AM
The Arctic Monkeys are a prime example of this too.

Add Aimee Mann to the list too. Thank the gods for the internet or else I wouldn't have become as acquainted with her music as I am now :thumbsup:.

DrummerDeanna
04-26-2006, 11:09 AM
I thought maybe it was a music issue, like people posting unreleased stuff of hers or something like that. I have a myspace page and I don't even know if you can even do that, but, music was the first thing I thought of when she said myspace is evil. We all know how she feels about bootlegs, etc.


Yeah - it's very easy to just open up a MySpace music profile and pretend you're Stevie Nicks. Personally I do find it creepy the people who open profiles saying they're here - this happens probably with all celbs - I know there are Dolly Parton pages like that...

Anyway, creeeeepy. And so far I don't think any unreleased stuff of Stevie's has been outed on MySpace, but there are a couple of Music profiles claiming to be her.

Now it would be one things if these people were up front with "this is a fan site" But there people out there claiming to actually BE her...that would creep me out too.

GypsyBoy87
04-26-2006, 12:42 PM
i dont know what shes talking about...shes in my top 8...hahahaha

JeannieKartis
04-26-2006, 01:06 PM
That is NOT Stevie....that is my freind Brooke....she is a Stevie impersonator and she will be performing at NOTS this year

That is a gorgeous pic of your friend Tiff....

Enchanted_Stevi
04-26-2006, 04:31 PM
That is a gorgeous pic of your friend Tiff....

My name is not Tiff....lol..Its Caitlin....lol

diamondsnake
04-26-2006, 08:52 PM
Dude, for a 17 year old boy, you sure do post an awful lot about her hair, her weight & the effects of menopause on Stevie. :shrug: Just an observation.
Does that bother you? I love Stevie's music, but I also like Stevie's image, including her appearance. I never say anything mean or disrespectful about her. So, what is the big deal?

SweetGirl24
04-27-2006, 12:04 AM
Personally, I agree that myspace is such a total waste of time, and its quite ridiculous the messages I get saying "Hey hottie, Im new to your area, and Im looking for someone to show me around!" I mean....get serious. There are weirdos that can look you up, true. It can be dangerous if you are dumb enough (or just dont know better) to let it. Still, I have one bc Im a college student who likes to procrastinate by adding stupid pointless stuff to it. Its kinda fun and I see Stevie's point is thinking that is does no good and allows for "evil". But my link is still in my sig! Ha! Although.... Facebook is my real addiction.

Lee
04-30-2006, 05:09 PM
I personally don't have a blog on myspace.com. My brother will not get on myspace.com because he says, "it's for perverts & pedophilias". I was trying to get him to look at Alexa Ray Joel's (Billy's daughter) myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/alexarayjoel). So myspace can be used for useful purposes. I've also gotten on one other one. The DJs that I sometimes listen to on the radio in the afternoon have their own myspace page. So it's not all evil. I'm really surprised that Stevie knows what myspace is unless she heard it on the news. I didn't even think Stevie owned a computer.

Lee :)

queenalexandra
04-30-2006, 05:17 PM
Does that bother you? I love Stevie's music, but I also like Stevie's image, including her appearance. I never say anything mean or disrespectful about her. So, what is the big deal?

Stevie does have a gay fan base as well. :]