View Full Version : The Sitar used on The Chain
DavidMn
04-06-2006, 12:41 PM
I'e always wondered how Lindsey came up with the idea of using this instrument for The Chain. I've never really read anything on this. Maybe I'm getting too much into Minutae, but I find it interesting. Obviously it was a good decision.:)
chiliD
04-06-2006, 12:41 PM
Sitar? "The Chain"? Where? I can hear a Dobro, but no sitar.
But, in any case, I would think ANYBODY's inspiration for using sitar on a rock song would've been from George Harrison's use of it on "Norwegian Wood". (The first use of sitar on a Western rock song)
DavidMn
04-06-2006, 12:45 PM
Sitar? "The Chain"? Where? I can hear a Dobro, but no sitar.
But, in any case, I would think ANYBODY's inspiration for using sitar on a rock song would've been from George Harrison's use of it on "Norwegian Wood". (The first use of sitar on a Western rock song)Good lord, I've done it again. Shows some of my ignorance on the technical aspect of music. WHat may I ask Steve is Lindsey holding as he's sitting down in that picture fromthe Box Set?
chiliD
04-06-2006, 12:51 PM
Yep, that IS a sitar...but I just don't hear one on "The Chain".
The only time I've (consciously) heard a sitar on a Fleetwood Mac song is on Lindsey's "Make Me A Mask" on The Chain box.
DavidMn
04-06-2006, 12:53 PM
Yep, that IS a sitar...but I just don't hear one on "The Chain".
The only time I've (consciously) heard a sitar on a Fleetwood Mac song is on Lindsey's "Make Me A Mask" on The Chain box.Well, I learned something new today. I guess if you dont ask, you'll never know huh?:nod:
SteveMacD
04-06-2006, 01:14 PM
Yep, that IS a sitar...but I just don't hear one on "The Chain".
The only time I've (consciously) heard a sitar on a Fleetwood Mac song is on Lindsey's "Make Me A Mask" on The Chain box.
It could just be a phaser effect on the guitar, but I swear I can hear one on GDW.
That's one thing I wish they would have done with Dave Mason. He had a TON of sitar on "Mr. Fantasy" (the album, not the song).
HomerMcvie
04-06-2006, 01:24 PM
It could just be a phaser effect on the guitar, but I swear I can hear one on GDW.
That's what I was thinking. GDW sure sounds like it has a sitar.
David
04-06-2006, 01:38 PM
That's what I was thinking. GDW sure sounds like it has a sitar.It does sound a little like a sitar, although a sitar isn't listed on the instrumentation from Ken Caillat's records for the DVD-Audio.
HomerMcvie
04-06-2006, 01:58 PM
It does sound a little like a sitar, although a sitar isn't listed on the instrumentation from Ken Caillat's records for the DVD-Audio.
Do you mean like Bob Welch isn't listed in any drunken choruses?:blob2:
David
04-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Do you mean like Bob Welch isn't listed in any drunken choruses?:blob2:Bob Welch loved hanging out with his homies back in '76. They smoked pot together, & they ate poor man's cioppino at Scoma's in Sausalito (sans Stevie & Christine, naturally). Bob didn't eat his scallops, however. Usually, John would reach over & grab the sea scallops because Bob didn't want them.
But they all enjoyed sopping up the bottom of their cioppino bowls with thick, sensuous slices of warm sourdough bread, baked fresh on the premises each morning.
Then it was out for a relaxing drive through some of the older residential neighborhoods, & finally back to the studio -- sometimes not until 5 p.m.
mylittledemon
04-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Sitar? "The Chain"? Where? I can hear a Dobro, but no sitar.
But, in any case, I would think ANYBODY's inspiration for using sitar on a rock song would've been from George Harrison's use of it on "Norwegian Wood". (The first use of sitar on a Western rock song)
ChiliD beat me to it as always. Hey CHILI....You're not selling your Model One on eBay are you? There was/is one on there that looks similar to yours.
chiliD
04-06-2006, 02:08 PM
ChiliD beat me to it as always. Hey CHILI....You're not selling your Model One on eBay are you? There was/is one on there that looks similar to yours.
WHAT?!?! :eek: ARE YOU NUTS?!? ;) OF COURSE I'M NOT SELLING MY TURNER! WHO IN THEIR SANE MIND WOULD?!? :shocked: :shrug:
I just don't understand how somebody could own a Turner then want to sell it. I'd die of starvation and environmental exposure before I'd sell mine.
mylittledemon
04-06-2006, 02:17 PM
WHAT?!?! :eek: ARE YOU NUTS?!? ;) OF COURSE I'M NOT SELLING MY TURNER! WHO IN THEIR SANE MIND WOULD?!? :shocked: :shrug:
I just don't understand how somebody could own a Turner then want to sell it. I'd die of starvation and environmental exposure before I'd sell mine.
Yeah if I put myself thru all the torture of saving the money to get one, I sure as hell would never sell. Hell, I'd be afraid to PLAY the damn thing! I see Model 1's on eBay all the time. I don't get it either man.
ragandbone
04-06-2006, 03:58 PM
I was gazing at some Turner guitars at Sylvan music the other day, and I thought of you guys...
It turns out that I drive past his shop all of the time, in Santa Cruz, on my way to the beach or the French bakery that is down in the industrial district - now a sort of "undustrial" neighborhood.
chiliD
04-06-2006, 04:33 PM
I was gazing at some Turner guitars at Sylvan music the other day, and I thought of you guys...
It turns out that I drive past his shop all of the time, in Santa Cruz, on my way to the beach or the French bakery that is down in the industrial district - now a sort of "undustrial" neighborhood.
They have a ton of 'em there, don't they? (at least they did several years ago when I was there for my late cousin's memorial)
ragandbone
04-06-2006, 04:47 PM
They have a ton of 'em there, don't they? (at least they did several years ago when I was there for my late cousin's memorial)
I guess there were 7 or 8 on the floor, including bass guitars. I didn't look to see if they had the uke. I was marvelling at the beauty of the bass guitars, before I realized I was looking at a Turner, and then I turned around to see the guitars. They really are beauties! I don't often look at electric guitars, but my son dragged me into the room with the electrics to look at the effects pedals.
Neb-Maat-Re
04-06-2006, 05:17 PM
The only time I've (consciously) heard a sitar on a Fleetwood Mac song is on Lindsey's "Make Me A Mask" on The Chain box.
I still think that if that's a sitar on MMAM then he's doing something bizarre and unnatural with it.
But then with LB that's not necessarily surprising.
chiliD
04-06-2006, 05:33 PM
I still think that if that's a sitar on MMAM then he's doing something bizarre and unnatural with it.
But then with LB that's not necessarily surprising.
Considering he does the same thing with guitars, that SHOULDN'T surprise you. You didn't really think he was going to be playing a RAGA now did you?
Neb-Maat-Re
04-06-2006, 05:44 PM
Considering he does the same thing with guitars, that SHOULDN'T surprise you. You didn't really think he was going to be playing a RAGA now did you?
Agreed.
But if you're going to make a sitar sound like a koto, wouldn't it be easier to just play a koto?
chiliD
04-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Agreed.
But if you're going to make a sitar sound like a koto, wouldn't it be easier to just play a koto?
Sitars are probably easier to play than a koto.
Heck, I can make a BANJO sound like sitar in certain circumstances, but I'd rather PLAY a sitar than a banjo.
Neb-Maat-Re
04-06-2006, 06:24 PM
Heck, I can make a BANJO sound like sitar
Would that be Raga Time music, then?
chiliD
04-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Would that be Raga Time music, then?
Raga-grass. :D
chiliD
04-07-2006, 10:43 AM
It could just be a phaser effect on the guitar, but I swear I can hear one on GDW.
That's what I was thinking. GDW sure sounds like it has a sitar.
DAMN YOU GUYS!!! For making me have to listen to Rumours!!!
DavidMn
04-07-2006, 12:39 PM
DAMN YOU GUYS!!! For making me have to listen to Rumours!!!A fate worse than death for you my friend.:laugh:
skcin
04-07-2006, 12:49 PM
DAMN YOU GUYS!!! For making me have to listen to Rumours!!!
Na-na-na-na-naaaa-naaa! :p
DavidMn
04-07-2006, 01:02 PM
You know, I OBVIUOSLY made a mistake about the Sitar when I opened this thread, but I wanted to thank people for not throwing me to the wolves.:laugh: I know very little about the techinical aspect of music, ((DUH))) but I guess if you never ask questions you'll never know right?:)
David
04-07-2006, 01:04 PM
Na-na-na-na-naaaa-naaa! :pEener-neener bubba-dip
Yippy yappy yew
Boopy loopy yabba-yab
Fill you fulla STEW
gimme an R!
gimme a U!
gimme an M!
gimme an O!
gimme a U!
gimme an R!
gimme an ... uhh ... S!
what's that spell?!
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what's that spell?!
HomerMcvie
04-07-2006, 01:22 PM
Eener-neener bubba-dip
Yippy yappy yew
Boopy loopy yabba-yab
Fill you fulla STEW
gimme an R!
gimme a U!
gimme an M!
gimme an O!
gimme a U!
gimme an R!
gimme an ... uhh ... S!
what's that spell?!
what's that spell?!
what's that spell?!
An animal that you'll milk for the next 30+ years!:rolleyes:
DavidMn
04-07-2006, 01:24 PM
An animal that you'll milk for the next 30+ years!:rolleyes:CLever. I liked that!:cool:
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