The Cover og 'Say You Will'

[The Nisse]

Read: The cover OF 'Say You Will'..

I'm sure I've read somewhere that it has a special meaning or background story. But I've completely forgotten it. Can anybody help...?

[Sahara]

I don't know, I've never heard of any...

All I know is that I like it and that those trousers look damn good on Lindsey. :o

[amber]

It's modeled after some japanese movie, their positions. I forgot why. I'm sure David will come along soon to help us answer that question. :wavey:

[EnchantedSLN]

http://www.cine-east.com/catalog/images/double

Someone very astutely noticed that it looks like a copy of the cover for this film, and was probably a play on words referring to the whole conflict about whether to make SYW a double or single album, due to sales concerns.

[DavidMn]

http://www.cine-east.com/catalog/images/double

Someone very astutely noticed that it looks like a copy of the cover for this film, and was probably a play on words referring to the whole conflict about whether to make SYW a double or single album, due to sales concerns.Wow. Good find there.:thumbsup:

[foxyluva]

Love the cover- probably my favourite (Lindsey looks freakin sexy!) but Stevie is so touched up, she doesn't look like herself :shrug:

[SortaSavageLike]

Love the cover- probably my favourite (Lindsey looks freakin sexy!) but Stevie is so touched up, she doesn't look like herself :shrug:

Has she ever really looked like herself on any of the album covers? :confused:

[foxyluva]

Has she ever really looked like herself on any of the album covers? :confused:

Lol. They are all touched up to some degree Im sure, but the SYW cover is ridiculous - If somebody just enlarged her head and showed it to me - I wouldn't even think it was her. I mean, look at the pictures in the booklet, then look at the cover...

[The Nisse]

http://www.cine-east.com/catalog/images/double

Someone very astutely noticed that it looks like a copy of the cover for this film, and was probably a play on words referring to the whole conflict about whether to make SYW a double or single album, due to sales concerns.

Thank you...that is very interesting. Even the typing looks the same..

[Oykamu]

I've wondered what message they were trying to send about the cover as well. That picture bears a remarkable resemblance to their cover.

Has anyone tried to figure out which hands are whose on the picture behind the CD tray?

[EnchantedSLN]

Wow. Good find there.:thumbsup:

Thanks, but I'm just reposting... I'm not sure who made the initial discovery.

Has anyone tried to figure out which hands are whose on the picture behind the CD tray?

At first I thought they were the band members', but then I realized none of them had neatly manicured French tips ;). It's actually a stock photo by someone named Keith Carter: http://creative.gettyimages.com/source/classes/FrameSet.aspx?&UQR=zfwjju&pk=4&source=front&lightboxView=1&txtSearch=keith%20carter&selImageType=7&chkLicensed=on&chkRoyaltyFree=on

[skcin]

Lol. They are all touched up to some degree Im sure, but the SYW cover is ridiculous - If somebody just enlarged her head and showed it to me - I wouldn't even think it was her. I mean, look at the pictures in the booklet, then look at the cover...

Really? I think Stevie looks like Stevie on SYW. Now, if we're talking The Dance or TOSOTM, that's another story. :laugh:



At first I thought they were the band members', but then I realized none of them had neatly manicured French tips ;). It's actually a stock photo by someone named Keith Carter: http://creative.gettyimages.com/source/classes/FrameSet.aspx?&UQR=zfwjju&pk=4&source=front&lightboxView=1&txtSearch=keith%20carter&selImageType=7&chkLicensed=on&chkRoyaltyFree=on

I never knew that. Thanks! :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

Really? I think Stevie looks like Stevie on SYW. Now, if we're talking.... TOSOTM, that's another story. :laugh:I could barely contain my excitement on that day back in 1989 when I bought the new Leeza Gibbons album!

[HomerMcvie]

I could barely contain my excitement on that day back in 1989 when I bought the new Leeza Gibbons album!
I'm sorry, Brian.:lol:

[Sahara]

http://www.cine-east.com/catalog/images/double

Someone very astutely noticed that it looks like a copy of the cover for this film, and was probably a play on words referring to the whole conflict about whether to make SYW a double or single album, due to sales concerns.


That's fascinating. And no, Stevie doesn't look like herself. Yes, Lindsey looks damn good.

[mylittledemon]

That's fascinating. And no, Stevie doesn't look like herself. Yes, Lindsey looks damn good.

I think Stevie looks more herself on the SYW cover than the Dance cover. Her face, close up, on the Dance cover looks like a man or something.

[SortaSavageLike]

I think Stevie looks more herself on the SYW cover than the Dance cover. Her face, close up, on the Dance cover looks like a man or something.

Ya mean, she doesn't look like a red-haired Geisha girl in real life? And Christine McVie doesn't look like a butch lesbian, either? :laugh:

[Richard B]

Frankly, the Say You Will cover sucks. I much prefer the simpler Limited Edition CD version of Say You Will album. The photo cover makes them look dead and not a great image to put out there regardless of the Double Suicide connection (although interesting).

I have to admit, I seem to prefer all the album covers that do not feature the band in them.

[mylittledemon]

Frankly, the Say You Will cover sucks. I much prefer the simpler Limited Edition CD version of Say You Will album. The photo cover makes them look dead and not a great image to put out there regardless of the Double Suicide connection (although interesting).

I have to admit, I seem to prefer all the album covers that do not feature the band in them.

Oooh I totally disagree. SYW cover just has a classic look. Their best album cover since Mirage I think.

[Richard B]

Oooh I totally disagree. SYW cover just has a classic look. Their best album cover since Mirage I think.

Best cover since Mirage? No way. Tango In The Night is a hot cover. Lush and depicts the music to be found inside.

I even prefer the Behind The Mask and Time covers over Say You Will.

John McVie even hated the cover where they were "floating." Which is either Say You Will or The Dance. I vote the former since they really do not appear to be floating on The Dance cover. But maybe.

[Villavic]

My fave covers are Rumours and Mirage. The Dance and SYW are cool too, but I think SYW could have been better. Something, I don't know, but something is missing

[ThePenguin]

Best cover since Mirage? No way. Tango In The Night is a hot cover. Lush and depicts the music to be found inside.

I even prefer the Behind The Mask and Time covers over Say You Will.

John McVie even hated the cover where they were "floating." Which is either Say You Will or The Dance. I vote the former since they really do not appear to be floating on The Dance cover. But maybe.


I actually thought he was talking about some of the inner sleeve pics on Tusk...? :shrug:

-Lis

[Richard B]

I actually thought he was talking about some of the inner sleeve pics on Tusk...? :shrug:

-Lis
Very well could be. But then the question and answer seemed focused on album covers. Who knows? Yet another question to be asked...

lol.

[RockALittle250]

Best cover since Mirage? No way. Tango In The Night is a hot cover. Lush and depicts the music to be found inside.

I even prefer the Behind The Mask and Time covers over Say You Will.

John McVie even hated the cover where they were "floating." Which is either Say You Will or The Dance. I vote the former since they really do not appear to be floating on The Dance cover. But maybe.

The cover where they were "floating" is on the back of the Tango in the Night album where they are all floating in a room. As for the covers of Mirage and Tango, I have always thought they should be switched. The Say You Will cover is my all-time favorite (2nd place goes to The Dance) and I like the modern/eclectic approch they took with it!

[mylittledemon]

The cover where they were "floating" is on the back of the Tango in the Night album where they are all floating in a room!


*incorrect buzzer noise*....they arent floating on the back of the Tango album...they're lying on the floor.

[Richard B]

*incorrect buzzer noise*....they arent floating on the back of the Tango album...they're lying on the floor.
*incorrect buzzer noise*
The back cover of Tango is of them standing, a black & white photo.

The lying on the floor was a sleeve insert.


http://www.stuff-4-sale.co.uk/vinyl-lp-albums/signed-albums/images/fleetwoodmac-tangointhenight2_jpg.jpg

They used the inner sleeve photo also for the Seven Wonders 7" Single
http://www.geocities.com/shacker33/SevenWonders45.jpg

[mylittledemon]

*incorrect buzzer noise*
The back cover of Tango is of them standing, a black & white photo.

The lying on the floor was a sleeve insert.


http://www.stuff-4-sale.co.uk/vinyl-lp-albums/signed-albums/images/fleetwoodmac-tangointhenight2_jpg.jpg

They used the inner sleeve photo also for the Seven Wonders 7" Single
http://www.geocities.com/shacker33/SevenWonders45.jpg


HA! ok well I wasn't ENTIRELY wrong...the picture of them "on the floor" I was referring to is on the back of the CD jewel case.

[Richard B]

HA! ok well I wasn't ENTIRELY wrong...the picture of them "on the floor" I was referring to is on the back of the CD jewel case.
So true.

I actually have always loved that photo. I like it when they're not so serious sometimes.

[cliffdweller]

Best cover since Mirage? No way. Tango In The Night is a hot cover. Lush and depicts the music to be found inside.


Ugh. I hate the Tango cover...talk about cheesy 80's! Well, I guess you're correct then about the cover depicting what was to be found inside :p

I think The Dance (besides Rumours of course) is F.M.'s best album cover. I think Stevie and Christine look especially smoldering there, and I love all the chaos going on around them with the collapsing furniture and the general "disheveledness" of the entire shot; it's all very swirly and surreal.

[JazmenFlowers]

Ya mean, she doesn't look like a red-haired Geisha girl in real life? And Christine McVie doesn't look like a butch lesbian, either? :laugh:
pfft! :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Ugh. I hate the Tango cover...talk about cheesy 80's! Well, I guess you're correct then about the cover depicting what was to be found inside :p

I think The Dance (besides Rumours of course) is F.M.'s best album cover. I think Stevie and Christine look especially smoldering there, and I love all the chaos going on around them with the collapsing furniture and the general "disheveledness" of the entire shot; it's all very swirly and surreal.

I love CM - but she looks odd on the cover of The Dance to me. Like she has been stretched or something.

[Richard B]

I love CM - but she looks odd on the cover of The Dance to me. Like she has been stretched or something.
Oooh me too. They are all excessively photoshopped. We all know they were inspired by the Matisse painting: The Dance, which is nice. But I never was fond of this album cover. Christine and Stevie look the weirdest. I also think they cropped some hips off Stevie as well.

Ugh. I hate the Tango cover...talk about cheesy 80's! Well, I guess you're correct then about the cover depicting what was to be found inside
And here we are back to FM's fondness for art. It's such a nice homage to Rousseau. Not sure how you even think it's 80's cheese? Perhaps you just think that since it was released in 1987. It's great and really works with the album title.

[chiliD]

And here we are back to FM's fondness for art. It's such a nice homage to Rousseau. Not sure how you even think it's 80's cheese? Perhaps you just think that since it was released in 1987. It's great and really works with the album title.


Actually, I think the covers of Mirage & Tango In The Night, if switched, would actually be more appropriate with the other title.

[JazmenFlowers]

Actually, I think the covers of Mirage & Tango In The Night, if switched, would actually be more appropriate with the other title.
ha! I never thought about that, but it's true.

I actually like The Dance cover. I do think they are all edited, but I don't blame them. if I was having a big reunion special and receive that much attention, I'd have been photoshopped so much my mammy wouldn't recognize me.

[DavidMn]

ha! I never thought about that, but it's true.

I actually like The Dance cover. I do think they are all edited, but I don't blame them. if I was having a big reunion special and receive that much attention, I'd have been photoshopped so much my mammy wouldn't recognize me.mammy:laugh: :laugh:

[cliffdweller]

Not sure how you even think it's 80's cheese?

Because it is :laugh:

The cover is cheesy, it's all tropical with funny, airbrushed looking colors (which is VERY 80's btw)...it makes me think of Florida, and since it was released in the 80's it then makes me think of Miami Vice! I've never seen the original painting that inspired it, it can't be the same thing, is it? If so, Rousseau sure was a visionary for what would become cheesilicious 1980's looking art!

[cliffdweller]

I actually like The Dance cover. I do think they are all edited, but I don't blame them. if I was having a big reunion special and receive that much attention, I'd have been photoshopped so much my mammy wouldn't recognize me.

Preach it.

I cannot fault them for wanting to be touched up after all that time away from the spotlight. I also love Chris's hair extension! I think she looks smokin' hot on that cover and not at all stretched! I love Stevie's pose too. The only thing I might change is to take that golf club out of Lindsey's hand :laugh: but other than that :shrug:

[Sahara]

I love Stevie's pose too. The only thing I might change is to take that golf club out of Lindsey's hand :laugh: but other than that :shrug:

The next time someone calls it a golf club, so help me God .... !!!

It's a cane!!

Aaaaaargh!!!!!!







*deep breaths* Rant over. Tis a cane.

[The Nisse]

foxyluva...who's the girl on the left in your signature? She's hot..

Just to add my opinion.. I think both the TITN and SYW covers are great, I think maybe I've looked at them so many times that I can't imagine them any different..

[cliffdweller]

The next time someone calls it a golf club, so help me God .... !!!

It's a cane!!

Aaaaaargh!!!!!!







*deep breaths* Rant over. Tis a cane.


:laugh: I know! I was being a bit absurd because of course he's not holding a golf club in this photo, but to the casual onlooker it looks like it, so when I glance at that cover that is what I see! Also, It looks like he's sneaking up on Stevie to give her a good klonk on the head with that golf club too! :laugh:

[mylittledemon]

Actually, I think the covers of Mirage & Tango In The Night, if switched, would actually be more appropriate with the other title.

Oh my God, once again, we agree! Hallelujah!

[Sahara]

:laugh: I know! I was being a bit absurd because of course he's not holding a golf club in this photo, but to the casual onlooker it looks like it, so when I glance at that cover that is what I see! Also, It looks like he's sneaking up on Stevie to give her a good klonk on the head with that golf club too! :laugh:


I'm kidding too :xoxo: And it really does look like that ... bwahahahha :lol:

If you look at that cover in a certain way, sort of blurring your eyes, it looks like Stevie's right arm is Mick's left leg, so he's just sort of standing with one leg parallel to the ground ... or is that just me?

[foxyluva]

Oooh me too. They are all excessively photoshopped. We all know they were inspired by the Matisse painting: The Dance, which is nice. But I never was fond of this album cover. Christine and Stevie look the weirdest. I also think they cropped some hips off Stevie as well.


How is The Dance inspired by the Matisse painting?? They look nothing alike...


I think Christine looks strange on the Dance - her head looks really stretched :laugh: But I like the cover overall.

[mylittledemon]

How is The Dance inspired by the Matisse painting?? They look nothing alike...


I think Christine looks strange on the Dance - her head looks really stretched :laugh: But I like the cover overall.

I think the TITLE of "The Dance" is where they took it from...not necessarily the pose of the band. I think Stevie looks the weirdest on the album cover...in fact, I hate the way she looks. Her face looks awful. Everyone else is acceptible. Although Christine reminds me of Link from the Legend of Zelda.

[chiliD]

How is The Dance inspired by the Matisse painting?? They look nothing alike...


I think Christine looks strange on the Dance - her head looks really stretched :laugh: But I like the cover overall.

They wanted to USE the Matisse painting as the cover, but the people who control the Matisse estate wouldn't give the permission to use it.

Anyone see the penguin on The Dance cover? (talk about your "mirages").

[cliffdweller]

I'm kidding too :xoxo: And it really does look like that ... bwahahahha :lol:

If you look at that cover in a certain way, sort of blurring your eyes, it looks like Stevie's right arm is Mick's left leg, so he's just sort of standing with one leg parallel to the ground ... or is that just me?


:laugh: I've never noticed that before, but I would bet that you're right! Mick's legs definitely used to be skinny enough to be arms...have you seen that Rolling Stone cover back in the 70's with the Rumours line-up all snuggled up in bed together? Mick has the longest, skinniest legs I've ever seen! :laugh:

[Sahara]

have you seen that Rolling Stone cover back in the 70's with the Rumours line-up all snuggled up in bed together? Mick has the longest, skinniest legs I've ever seen! :laugh:

I sure did ... trust me, it wasn't Mick's legs I was concentrating on. :eek:

:laugh: :wavey:

[Sahara]

They wanted to USE the Matisse painting as the cover, but the people who control the Matisse estate wouldn't give the permission to use it.

That's mad. I never knew that. I just thought The Dance was a cool title.

Anyone see the penguin on The Dance cover? (talk about your "mirages").

Wow!! I'm impressed. :cool:

[Richard B]

How is The Dance inspired by the Matisse painting?? They look nothing alike...
As ChiliD already stated, they wanted to use the original.

So instead, they opted to have a circular look, with 5 dancers/players. It's pretty obvious. (Except the band chose to wear clothes). lol.
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/06/11/artwork_wideweb__430x285.jpg

[Richard B]

Because it is :laugh:

The cover is cheesy, it's all tropical with funny, airbrushed looking colors (which is VERY 80's btw)...it makes me think of Florida, and since it was released in the 80's it then makes me think of Miami Vice! I've never seen the original painting that inspired it, it can't be the same thing, is it? If so, Rousseau sure was a visionary for what would become cheesilicious 1980's looking art!
I disagree. The cover is dark and not bright. Not as bold as the tendency of colors in the 80's. The colors also look like they were originally from oil, as the Rousseau paintings were. Below is an example. The TITN cover is subdued just like his work. You can also see the similarity in the foliage. The following piece by Rousseau is called The Snake Charmer (1907). Obviously it is with this particular work that the cover for TITN was born.
http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/rousseau/images/works/snakecharmer_lg.jpg

[cliffdweller]

I disagree. The cover is dark and not bright. Not as bold as the tendency of colors in the 80's. The colors also look like they were originally from oil, as the Rousseau paintings were. Below is an example. The TITN cover is subdued just like his work. You can also see the similarity in the foliage. The following piece by Rousseau is called The Snake Charmer (1907). Obviously it is with this particular work that the cover for TITN was born.
http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/rousseau/images/works/snakecharmer_lg.jpg


I like this better than the Tango cover, although it's still not my cup of tea as far as art goes.

[chiliD]

Ok, side by side.

http://moogie.info/music/cd/FleetwoodMac-TangointheNight.jpghttp://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/rousseau/images/works/snakecharmer_lg.jpg



And, with the magic of MS Paint:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=5395&d=1144860177

[cliffdweller]

Ok, side by side.

http://moogie.info/music/cd/FleetwoodMac-TangointheNight.jpghttp://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/rousseau/images/works/snakecharmer_lg.jpg



And, with the magic of MS Paint:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=5395&d=1144860177


Thanks or posting Chili.

SEE Richard! Those colors! Totally airbrushed! I'm not a fan of airbrushed art, mainly because it makes me think of...you guessed it....the 80's! I'm sorry, I just don't like art that looks like this! I guess I like grittier, more realistic looking stuff :shrug: I'm also usually more a fan of photography :eek: than paintings anyway.

[David]

I'm sorry, I just don't like art that looks like this!I don't, either. All this Rousseau-derived puff-puff. I wish the band had used some metallic, noisy German deco painting for its album cover ... something like this:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/arthistory/images/dept_travel_poster.jpg

. . . or this masterpiece of German romanticism by Friedrich:

http://www.artsforge.com/agallery/hope.jpg

[chiliD]

...something like this:
. . . or this masterpiece of German romanticism by Friedrich:

http://www.artsforge.com/agallery/hope.jpg


Isn't this a Supertramp album cover already? :shrug:

[JazmenFlowers]

I actually like how the TITN album cover looks. it may be airbrushed, but the colors, to me, are really beautiful. I wouldn't have like the actual art piece to be the cover...that fluteplayer creeps me out and the colors look a little washed out for an album cover.

[UndoingTheLaces]

Ok, side by side.

http://moogie.info/music/cd/FleetwoodMac-TangointheNight.jpghttp://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/rousseau/images/works/snakecharmer_lg.jpg





I always loved that tiny little UFO flying around in the Tango cover.

[The Nisse]

foxyluva...who's the girl on the left in your signature? She's hot..

She still is.. :wavey: