Random Question: 'When I See You Again' or 'The Second Time'

[foxyluva]

I've been meaning to ask this for a while now, but never gotten around to it.

Both these songs are very similar to me, both are slow, almost acoustic outro songs to both albums, and both are not really liked by very many people. I don't know how to make a poll, so....

Now is the time to choose: Which song is better??

My choice: Although I do love WISYA, i've always just had a love for The Second Time :nod:

[danax6]

When I See You Again, most definitely. As I already said in the 'Unpopular opinions' thread, there is just something about this song, something very emotional, that makes it good in spite of the bad lyrics. Or better yet, annoyingly repetitive lyrics.

[Richard B]

WISYA all the way. I love the way she coos "baby" so many ways. So sweet. Try it with your lover.

[DavidMn]

The Second Time. I know I'll get a remark or two obout this, but it's my favorite song on BTM.:)

[foxyluva]

The Second Time. I know I'll get a remark or two obout this, but it's my favorite song on BTM.:)

:xoxo: I love you for that. I was starting to feel like The Second Time was going to get slaughtered :laugh:


Oh, and Richard B. - What lover? My love life is completely non-existant :lol:

[DavidMn]

:xoxo: I love you for that. I was starting to feel like The Second Time was going to get slaughtered :laugh:


Oh, and Richard B. - What lover? My love life is completely non-existant :lol:Not a problem my friend.:)

[Richard B]

Oh, and Richard B. - What lover? My love life is completely non-existant :lol:
Awwwww....honey.

What's a matter, baby? Baby?

[foxyluva]

Awwwww....honey.

What's a matter, baby? Baby?

Lol. Yes, i am a sad case when it comes to love. I have not dated anybody since i was about 17, im 19 now so...

I have had some major issues that have come up in my life, and im just beginning to get my life back on track :nod:

Maybe I'll prefer WISYA when I finally have a love-life :lol:

[Richard B]

Lol. Yes, i am a sad case when it comes to love. I have not dated anybody since i was about 17, im 19 now so...

I have had some major issues that have come up in my life, and im just beginning to get my life back on track :nod:

Maybe I'll prefer WISYA when I finally have a love-life :lol:
Which of course makes me think of this song from that album that has that song you prefer:
When it comes to love, got to treat it special
When it comes to love, shouldn't be no pressure
When it comes to love, got to take it easy
You can't be too careful, when it comes to love

When it comes to love
Take It Easy
Got to learn to take it slow
When it comes to love
Keep believin'
When it comes to love
Give it time, and just let it grow

[DavidMn]

Lol. Yes, i am a sad case when it comes to love. I have not dated anybody since i was about 17, im 19 now so...

I have had some major issues that have come up in my life, and im just beginning to get my life back on track :nod:

Maybe I'll prefer WISYA when I finally have a love-life :lol:Well, you seem like a very nice person, so I'm sure you'll be ok. :thumbsup:

[foxyluva]

Thank you both ^^^

:xoxo:

Im hoping things turn around soon...

[DavidMn]

Thank you both ^^^

:xoxo:

Im hoping things turn around soon...I'm sort of in the same boat you are. I've made some mistakes, but who's perfect, right?:thumbsup:

[SapphireSister]

WISYA. I really like this song a lot. especially the watsumatababies. I don't like any of Stevie's BTM songs, especially not The Second Time. The only one I can deal with (and barely) is Love is Dangerous. The rest are terrible.

[Richard B]

WISYA. I really like this song a lot. especially the watsumatababies. I don't like any of Stevie's BTM songs, especially not The Second Time. The only one I can deal with (and barely) is Love is Dangerous. The rest are terrible.
Love is Dangerous certainly thumps but I really love Affairs Of The Heart and Freedom.

[BlackWidow]

I LOVE "THE SECOND TIME"
"She could neveeeerrr looook baaaaccck!"
http://www.nicksfix.com/sn0013.jpg

[AliceLover]

Love is Dangerous certainly thumps but I really love Affairs Of The Heart and Freedom.

I LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE Affairs of the Heart!!!

[eclipse]

When I see you again...wins hands down

I love the agony, the emotion, the desperate pleading vocals,the totally shot hoarse voice..
I love it all and I love it more for what it says about she and Lindsey and the never ending story of their "connection" love/hate -hate/love passion and despair...
"Again and again...over and over..."

For me- there truly is no better song that captures her vunerability at that time- than this one.

[goldie]

I love both of these songs. If I had to choose, I'd say WISYA is better, only because Lindsey sings on it and produced it.

[foxyluva]

I LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE Affairs of the Heart!!!

Hell Yea!!! That is in my top 5 Stevie solo songs - along with "Ooh My Love" & "Ghosts"

Freedom is great also - especially christines backing vocals :laugh:

WISYA is winning 5 to 3

Come on people - save The Second Time :blob1:

[diamondsnake]

The Second Time. It is a beautiful song! Actually, I love all of Stevie's BTM songs.

[wheart]

I've always loved The Second Time. I love the lyrics and I just think it's such a pretty song. The only problem I have with it are Stevie's lifeless vocals, like all her songs on BTM.

WISYA is tragic and heartbreaking and her damaged voice at that time does reflect the whole feel of the song very well. If I must pick, I'd have to pick WISYA but I still love TST :)

[Kelly]

WISYA

I agree with everything Eclipse posted. The desperation in her voice, the pain and fear....ahhh, I love it. Plus Lindsey at the end is perfect.

[WelshWitchPMD]

WISYA

I agree with everything Eclipse posted. The desperation in her voice, the pain and fear....ahhh, I love it. Plus Lindsey at the end is perfect.

I just listened to WISYA and I had forgotten how pretty it is. I could do without some of the lyrics and the way too many 'What's a matter, babys?" However. I do like LB's guitar work and his vocals on the song.

[TheBlueLamp]

When I See You Again definitely, but I really do like The Second Time (and I love all of Stevie's BTM songs EXCEPT Love Is Dangerous)

[melly]

I prefer When I See You Again.

[1934mission]

I like The Second Time a bit better. I also listen to BTM more. I am sometimes in the mood for Stevies' fragile voice. I also love her voice on Smiling Islands, She Loves Him Still, Rock A Little, and Landslide 1980 Live. Her raw emotion is touching.

[chiliD]

The Second Time. I know I'll get a remark or two obout this, but it's my favorite song on BTM.:)

Ear wax build-up again, David? :lol:


"When I See You Again" is the better song all around. Somebody should've bulk erased the master tapes of "The Second Time" as a "Save The World" measure.

[DavidMn]

Ear wax build-up again, David? :lol:


"When I See You Again" is the better song all around. Somebody should've bulk erased the master tapes of "The Second Time" as a "Save The World" measure.I knew you'd say that. I was just waiting for it.:lol: Just to placate you a bit, I was enjoying In The Back Of My Mind yesterday evening relaxing at home.:wavey:

[Highwayman]

Second Time by a narrow margin in my book.

The lights go out in the arena. The stage is dark. Lindsay appears at one side, Stevie at the other. They walk across, meet in the middle, hug. The crowd goes crazy. They break into Second Time. Just them, white spot light. "The secontd time around, for us, she never looked back, she could never look back." The stage goes dark, then Mick's base drum starting the beat of The Chain...

[Richard B]

I LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE Affairs of the Heart!!!
You have wonderful taste. Such a great song. Wished they did it on the BTM Tour...but no biggie. I enjoyed that tour immensley, both legs, which were slightly different. In the second leg of the tour got to see Lindsey with the band for the first time in a long time at the Oakland, CA show (I think he showed up for LA too). Stevie looked much better on the first leg of the BTM tour though.

Also, so good to see WISYA winning. It's such a great song.

[jwd]

It's kind of like asking who would you rather kiss, Joan Rivers or Phyllis Diller. :laugh: BUT, I do like "Second Time" better than the sloppy, repetitive, drivel that came to be WISYA.

[The Tower]

"The Second Time" (!!!!)

"And your sorrows left you there...
Right before the lights came up
Do you remember you took my hand???
Do you remember... my friend?"

I love it.

[Johnny Stew]

Anyone who's been visiting the Ledge for any length of time, knows how much I love "When I See You Again." :o For me, it's Stevie's most emotionally stark, soul-baring song. There's so much longing and desperation in that vocal, and a growing weariness. I also think each repetition of the line, "what's the matter, baby," further reveals how dark of a place she was in.
It may be a flawed song, but it's beautifully flawed, in my opinion.

"The Second Time" isn't bad at all though... but I don't think Stevie's vocal really did it justice. To my ears, it needed a somewhat softer, more gentle approach. If she had recorded it about ten years before, it would probably be pretty well regarded by the majority of her fans.

[Miss Vicky]

I can't say that I'm a big fan of either song, but of the two I definitely prefer "When I See You Again." It's not the most exciting song but it's pleasant enough.

"The Second Time" on the other hand, is offensive to my ears. The lyrics and music are passable, if not actually good, but the vocal is like nails on a chalkboard - it makes me cringe and feel physically ill everytime I hear it. Put bluntly, it's the worst Fleetwood Mac song I've ever heard.

[EnchantedSLN]

I prefer WISYA, but both are good. I like Stevie's raspy, fragile voice as much as her asskicking rock voice. But that statement probably belongs in the "unpopular opinions" thread. The emotional versatility of her voice amazes me... even when I don't love her words, I love the way she sings them.

The only thing I kind of wince at in The Second Time, is the "do you remember how the angels sang" line. I think it made the otherwise decent lyrics a tad too maudlin.

[Moony]

Anyone who's been visiting the Ledge for any length of time, knows how much I love "When I See You Again." :o For me, it's Stevie's most emotionally stark, soul-baring song. There's so much longing and desperation in that vocal, and a growing weariness. I also think each repetition of the line, "what's the matter, baby," further reveals how dark of a place she was in.
It may be a flawed song, but it's beautifully flawed, in my opinion.

What he said. Also, the first time I listened to the song, I got chills when Lindsey came in at the end. It's kind of devastating.

The Second Time really does nothing for me. Bore fest.

[StreetAngel86]

I've been meaning to ask this for a while now, but never gotten around to it.

Both these songs are very similar to me, both are slow, almost acoustic outro songs to both albums, and both are not really liked by very many people. I don't know how to make a poll, so....

Now is the time to choose: Which song is better??

My choice: Although I do love WISYA, i've always just had a love for The Second Time :nod:


HANDS DOWN
When I see you again

WOOT!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

[BlackWidow]

Anyone who's been visiting the Ledge for any length of time, knows how much I love "When I See You Again." :o For me, it's Stevie's most emotionally stark, soul-baring song. There's so much longing and desperation in that vocal, and a growing weariness. I also think each repetition of the line, "what's the matter, baby," further reveals how dark of a place she was in.
It may be a flawed song, but it's beautifully flawed, in my opinion.

"The Second Time" isn't bad at all though... but I don't think Stevie's vocal really did it justice. To my ears, it needed a somewhat softer, more gentle approach. If she had recorded it about ten years before, it would probably be pretty well regarded by the majority of her fans.
Stevie's vocal on "The Second Time" is quite remarkable. It is touching, subtle and very moving. The lyrics are stronger also. I don't mind WISYA.
I just think her vocal on it is horrible. I would love to hear her sing it now.
I remember being so shocked that her voice was shredded on a FM project.
http://www.nicksfix.com/sn0013.jpg

[BlackWidow]

I knew you'd say that. I was just waiting for it.:lol: Just to placate you a bit, I was enjoying In The Back Of My Mind yesterday evening relaxing at home.:wavey:
YOU ARE RIGHT! THE SECOND TIME IS BETTER!!!

[DavidMn]

YOU ARE RIGHT! THE SECOND TIME IS BETTER!!!Thank you. I agree.

[Dark Angel]

Defintely WISYA. I actually like her raspy/fragile vocals on it, and Lindsey's vocals at the end make it all the more beautiful.

[David]

It's kind of like asking who would you rather kiss, Joan Rivers or Phyllis Diller. :laugh: BUT, I do like "Second Time" better than the sloppy, repetitive, drivel that came to be WISYA.You're always so negative about Stevie. It makes me very sad. It's like my heart is crying. :( :( :(

I just love both of these songs so much that I could never choose between them. It's like Sophie's Choice, I couldn't choose one over the other because it would haunt me till the end of days. :( :( :( :( :eek:

I need to go wash my hair. Catch you guys later! :thumbsup:

[StreetAngel86]

Defintely WISYA. I actually like her raspy/fragile vocals on it, and Lindsey's vocals at the end make it all the more beautiful.

ita!!
one of the reasons i like WISYA
and don't have a problem with her vocals
to the degree......or ANY degree that a lot of ppl here seem to have
it that it is very fitting to the song
it's raspy & kinda raw
just like the song

i dont know why people bitch about it all the time
it's fabulous!

[foxyluva]

i dont know why people bitch about it all the time
it's fabulous!

Yes, well your the one who thinks SA is her masterpeice aren't you?

:laugh:

[StreetAngel86]

Yes, well your the one who thinks SA is her masterpeice aren't you?

:laugh:

WHAT are you implying there missy :shocked:

i think Stevie has a few 'masterpieces'
and yes, SA is definitely floating around the top :lol:

[foxyluva]

WHAT are you implying there missy :shocked:

i think Stevie has a few 'masterpieces'
and yes, SA is definitely floating around the top :lol:

I would give you the 'how could you like street angel' lecture - but im sure you have heard it a million times before :lol:

by the way, im a mister :laugh:

[StreetAngel86]

I would give you the 'how could you like street angel' lecture - but im sure you have heard it a million times before :lol:

by the way, im a mister :laugh:

OMG i am so sorry :o
lol i assumed you were a female :shocked:

for the record i don't think WISYA is ANYWHERE near to top notch calibre of Street Angel. I just happen to like it :rolleyes: a lot :thumbsup:

[foxyluva]

OMG i am so sorry :o
lol i assumed you were a female :shocked:

for the record i don't think WISYA is ANYWHERE near to top notch calibre of Street Angel. I just happen to like it :rolleyes: a lot :thumbsup:

LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: "the top notch calibre of street angel" - my god i found that amusing :laugh:

About the female thing, ive been told i give off an online vibe :lol:

[StreetAngel86]

LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: "the top notch calibre of street angel" - my god i found that amusing :laugh:

About the female thing, ive been told i give off an online vibe :lol:

i have no idea why i thought that LOL
ur name just reminds me of X-Files
so I thought it pertained to being a Mulder-lover
and hence you're a girl :lol:

don't make me get out my top hat and scarf to hurt you with
you will leave Street Angel alone in the corner
and go maul something atrocious like Leather & Lace :shocked:

[Richard B]

About the female thing, ive been told i give off an online vibe :lol:
Interesting cause I got the vibe you were a guy.

[foxyluva]

don't make me get out my top hat and scarf to hurt you with
you will leave Street Angel alone in the corner
and go maul something atrocious like Leather & Lace :shocked:


Your kidding right :confused: Leather & lace is a million times better than anything on SA :mad:

But, i respect your opinion, horrible as it may be :laugh:

[Richard B]

Your kidding right :confused: Leather & lace is a million times better than anything on SA :mad:

But, i respect your opinion, horrible as it may be :laugh:
Leave it to a kooky Australian to prefer Street Angel songs. Especially over Leather & Lace.













(Love me Aussies...so I'm just kidding. I have 2 wonderful Aussies in my life that I would not trade for the world. But I tease the **** out of them...as they do me. All is fair in love and war.)

[foxyluva]

Leave it to a kooky Australian to prefer Street Angel songs. Especially over Leather & Lace.

(Love me Aussies...so I'm just kidding. I have 2 wonderful Aussies in my life that I would not trade for the world. But I tease the **** out of them...as they do me. All is fair in love and war.)

Hehe. I agree, Im from New Zealand, and we have an unspoken fued :laugh:

Thankyou for the 'male vibe' comment - your the first :thumbsup:

[StreetAngel86]

Your kidding right :confused: Leather & lace is a million times better than anything on SA :mad:

But, i respect your opinion, horrible as it may be :laugh:

u bloody kiwi :laugh:
i just said that coz it was the first song that come into my head
not too many songs i dislike that are Stevie's....FM on the other hand :lol:




Thankyou for the 'male vibe' comment - your the first :thumbsup:

so you've been called a female before on this board? :shocked:

[foxyluva]

so you've been called a female before on this board? :shocked:

Yes, but dont ask :lol:

I have to agreeon one thing about SA. Parts of the tour that I have heard kick ass. I just downloaded an excellent quality version of GDW over at the SevenWonders board - and I was extremely impressed :thumbsup:

But im a fan of the deeper voice...

[tynan88]

Leave it to a kooky Australian to prefer Street Angel songs. Especially over Leather & Lace.




(Love me Aussies...so I'm just kidding. I have 2 wonderful Aussies in my life that I would not trade for the world. But I tease the **** out of them...as they do me. All is fair in love and war.)

Sigh...you and your Street Angel...let's face it that what ever way you look at it, Greta sh*ts all over both of these songs.

Oh and I pick WISYA...mainly because I've never heard TST...I don't own BTM :o

How ya doing by the way?...been a while :wavey:

[jwd]

You're always so negative about Stevie. It makes me very sad. It's like my heart is crying.:( :( :(

I just love both of these songs so much that I could never choose between them. It's like Sophie's Choice, I couldn't choose one over the other because it would haunt me till the end of days.:( :( :( :( :eek:

I need to go wash my hair. Catch you guys later!:thumbsup:

:o Gee Dave, sorry to upset you so much. Just remember that it's only an opinion, and shouldn't bear so negatively on the way you feel. But I will try to ease up on my Stevie negativity, knowing how it may upset you. Cheer up man, it's only a message board.

What kind of shampoo do you use? Did it make you feel any better? Do you like to wash your hair in the morning or evening? Oh, and do you prefer coffe or tea? What's your favorite color? I'm sure everyone is dying to know.

[David]

:o Gee Dave, sorry to upset you so much. Just remember that it's only an opinion, and shouldn't bear so negatively on the way you feel. But I will try to ease up on my Stevie negativity, knowing how it may upset you. Cheer up man, it's only a message board. I know, but I can't help it. Your views are so harsh & so barbed & so acidulous & so acerb that I cannot but feel cut & wounded. :( :(
I cry, I cry, I cry, I cry . . . .
What kind of shampoo do you use? Prell
Did it make you feel any better? Most of the time, it makes me feel a little better
Do you like to wash your hair in the morning or evening? i wash it in the morning, but sometimes in the evening, too.
Oh, and do you prefer coffe or tea? I like them both but I drink neither coffee nor tea. I drink only purified or distilled water, soy milk & orange juice
What's your favorite color? I'm sure everyone is dying to know.favorite color is blue, but I also like green

[JazmenFlowers]

it's hard for me to decide because I love both of these songs, but I will go with WISYA because I feel that it touches me emotionally than TST...I can relate to it much more and the vocal is so much more haunting

[StreetAngel86]

Sigh...you and your Street Angel...let's face it that what ever way you look at it, Greta sh*ts all over both of these songs.

How ya doing by the way?...been a while :wavey:

was this directed at me?
i havent talked to you in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages :(
how's school? having Stevie withdrawls like moi?


you and Greta have a pretty intense relationship hey hehe what what Jane & Juliet say :shocked:

but i got a Q for you........which version of G do you prefer? the SA version or the RAL version? I love the RAL one ........ not too much a fan of the SA one. But i don't hate it :wavey:

[foxyluva]

was this directed at me?
i havent talked to you in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages :(
how's school? having Stevie withdrawls like moi?


you and Greta have a pretty intense relationship hey hehe what what Jane & Juliet say :shocked:

but i got a Q for you........which version of G do you prefer? the SA version or the RAL version? I love the RAL one ........ not too much a fan of the SA one. But i don't hate it :wavey:

OMG! I would love to hear the RAL version of Greta if you have it :woohoo:

[tynan88]

was this directed at me?
i havent talked to you in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages :(
how's school? having Stevie withdrawls like moi?


you and Greta have a pretty intense relationship hey hehe what what Jane & Juliet say :shocked:

but i got a Q for you........which version of G do you prefer? the SA version or the RAL version? I love the RAL one ........ not too much a fan of the SA one. But i don't hate it :wavey:

Schools so...so...got too many exams and too much work, why can't I just be a rock star? :lol:

My Stevie withdrawals are getting stronger and aren't helped by the fact that people are still asking me why I did it either!

Greta and I do have an intense relationship, Juliet is a tad jealous but Jane doesn't care, she's obsessed with her chimps.

I much prefer the RAL Greta, it's a tad softer I think.

[tynan88]

was this directed at me?
i havent talked to you in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages :(
how's school? having Stevie withdrawls like moi?


you and Greta have a pretty intense relationship hey hehe what what Jane & Juliet say :shocked:

but i got a Q for you........which version of G do you prefer? the SA version or the RAL version? I love the RAL one ........ not too much a fan of the SA one. But i don't hate it :wavey:

Schools so...so...got too many exams and too much work, why can't I just be a rock star? :lol:

My Stevie withdrawals are getting stronger and aren't helped by the fact that people are still asking me why I did it either!

Greta and I do have an intense relationship, Juliet is a tad jealous but Jane doesn't care, she's obsessed with her chimps.

I much prefer the RAL Greta, it's a tad softer I think.