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Ghost_Tracker
02-01-2006, 04:41 AM
Hey all - I was just doing some exploring and came across this song by
Bob Welsh - It's called "Nightwatch" from the album "Penguins" - 1973 from Reprise. As McVie would say - - - JEEEEE-sus! :shocked:

"Go on, you know you're only one
Set me free
You take me up and turn around
But let me in
Take this shadow from my eyes
And tell me everything
Take the desert from my soul
And lift me up from down below
Let me take some pride in your creation

Cause I have lived alone in castles that were lonely
And I have cursed the dawn and wondered why I do
Well I have wondered why I live
Now I know you must forgive
Let me stand inside your magic shadow

The night is coming faster
And you're feeling all unchained
In the north there is a jungle
Where rockets are aflame
And I hope that in the desert
There are ships and there is noise
And above the greatest city
There will shine a magic shadow
And a voice

It's taking long but I'm getting strong as I grow old
Please believe me let the magic reach me and I will unfold
I'll step aboard with you onday
And see my dust just melt away
And then I'll step inside your magic shadow
dreamers..."

Jyqm
02-01-2006, 06:05 AM
Hey all - I was just doing some exploring and came across this song by
Bob Welsh - It's called "Nightwatch" from the album "Penguins" - 1973 from Reprise. As McVie would say - - - JEEEEE-sus! :shocked:

Just because I know people love to go ape**** over typos and misspellings: the album is simply the singular Penguin, and Bob's last name is Welch with a c.

And yes, "Nightwatch" is a very nice song on an unfortunately mediocre album.

chiliD
02-01-2006, 09:44 AM
Didn't realize Bob Welsh was this good!
What have I been saying for the last...oh, 10-12 years...here? There have been talented musicians/songwriters in Fleetwood Mac other than Lindsey & Stevie. :thumbsup:
Just because I know people love to go ape**** over typos and misspellings: the album is simply the singular Penguin, and Bob's last name is Welch with a c.

And yes, "Nightwatch" is a very nice song on an unfortunately mediocre album.

Beat me to the punch.:lol:
Oh, and the song title is two words..."Night Watch". :rolleyes: AND, let's not forget, that the lead guitar on the fade out (just like on "Brown Eyes") is one Peter Alan Greenbaum.

The album, once my least favorite, has grown in stature over the years. The only song, NOW, that I would dump is their horrendous cover of "Roadrunner".

bretonbanquet
02-01-2006, 10:10 AM
The only song, NOW, that I would dump is their horrendous cover of "Roadrunner".

Good job we're all different :lol: I'd take Road Runner over Night Watch all day long :nod:

Gailh
02-01-2006, 11:29 AM
I've always had soft spot for Penguin because it was the first FM album I ever bought. Night Watch is I think one of the best on the album. I would ditch Road Runner as well.

I remember seeing them play at the Manchester, Free Trade Hall in May 1973 and one of the few songs I can remember them playing was Night Watch.

Happy days!

Gail

SteveMacD
02-01-2006, 11:41 AM
"Penguin" has a few gems, and a few stinkers. I can't imagine my Fleetwood Mac collection without such songs as "Remember Me," "Dissatisfied," "Revelation," "Did You Ever Love Me," and "Night Watch." The other four, not so much. It was a very casual album. They didn't seem too focused on what they were doing. But, in an artistic sense, the band was in the middle of shifting from the "Bare Trees" sound to the "Mystery To Me" sound. There are songs on "Penguin" that could have gone on the earlier albums, and others that could have gone on later albums.

I think it's safe to say that this album was very important for Christine as a pop songwriter. She had crafted a great pop tune with "Spare Me A Little" on the last album. "Penguin" showed that it wasn't a one-time deal. Her "Penguin" songs could have easily gone on later albums. (In fact, I've said that if you mix her "Penguin" songs in with the "Buckingham Nicks" album, it would have had that Big Mac sound.)

johnny4406
02-01-2006, 11:48 AM
I really like Penguin. It was the first pre-bn Fleetwood Mac album I purchased.
I was so intrigued by the cover..because I really like penguins. I actually like the entire album, though at the end there's one or two songs that I don't like. I love "Im a roadrunner" - it's so cool. Christine had 3 amazing songs!

Doesn't it seem like a really short album? Same with "Future Games"...
I feel like "Bare Trees" and "Mystery to me" and "Heroes..." are much longer albums. I love the fact that they are.

chiliD
02-01-2006, 11:56 AM
(In fact, I've said that if you mix her "Penguin" songs in with the "Buckingham Nicks" album, it would have had that Big Mac sound.)

Crying In The Night
Stephanie
Without A Leg To Stand On
Did You Ever Love Me?
Long Distance Winner

Don't Let Me Down Again
Dissatisfied
Lola (My Love)
Remember Me
Frozen Love


Hmm....:shrug:

Jyqm
02-01-2006, 01:03 PM
Beat me to the punch.:lol:
Oh, and the song title is two words..."Night Watch". :rolleyes:

I'll forgive myself for that one. But the day you ever see me type "Standback" or "Belladonna," feel free to virtually punch me in the virtual face.

The album, once my least favorite, has grown in stature over the years. The only song, NOW, that I would dump is their horrendous cover of "Roadrunner".

I must admit, I really kinda like "Roadrunner." It certainly doesn't fit on the album, nor with the sound the band was cultivating at the time, but taken on its own, I think it's kinda fun. No match for the original, but not an embarrassing effort to my ears.

HomerMcvie
02-01-2006, 01:12 PM
Didn't Bob Welsh write a song about a Welch witch?

chiliD
02-01-2006, 01:19 PM
Didn't Bob Welsh write a song about a Welch witch?


I thought he bottled grape juice.:shrug:

jbrownsjr
02-01-2006, 07:44 PM
I thought he bottled grape juice.:shrug:

no he was a pitcher for the Oakland A's

chiliD
02-01-2006, 07:48 PM
no he was a pitcher for the Oakland A's

Umm...are you forgetting his years with the Los Angeles Dodgers? Where he MADE his fame? :shrug:


As well as playing drums for the 60's Surf band The Chantays (of the hit "Pipeline" fame).

SteveMacD
02-01-2006, 08:01 PM
Crying In The Night
Stephanie
Without A Leg To Stand On
Did You Ever Love Me?
Long Distance Winner

Don't Let Me Down Again
Dissatisfied
Lola (My Love)
Remember Me
Frozen Love
Well, I'll be a bit redundant (when has that ever stopped Fleetood Mac?) and make it a thirteen tracker!

Crying In The Night
Remember Me
Crystal
Long Distance Winner
Without A Leg To Stand On
Dissatisfied
Stephanie

Don't Let Me Down Again
Django
Races Are Run
Did You Ever Love Me?
Lola (My Love)
Frozen Love

eclipse
02-01-2006, 08:39 PM
Bob Welch was , and is EXCELLENT! :]

To name just a few:

Bermuda Triangle
Hyptonized
Senitmental Lady

This man really added to Fleetwood Mac( pre Stevie and Lindsey)

And yes-----As much as I love them both, and their influence on the band...
Fleetwod Mac has always been FLEETWOOD MAC- whoever was in the line-up

jbrownsjr
02-02-2006, 05:23 PM
Umm...are you forgetting his years with the Los Angeles Dodgers? Where he MADE his fame? :shrug:


As well as playing drums for the 60's Surf band The Chantays (of the hit "Pipeline" fame).


OMG i forgot!!! and i've been going to Dodger Staduim since i was 7 !!

bad error on my part

chiliD
02-02-2006, 06:38 PM
OMG i forgot!!! and i've been going to Dodger Staduim since i was 7 !!

bad error on my part


Jeez, yeah...he was the ace of the staff during the late '70's/early 80's Dodger heyday (with Tommy John & Burt Hooton). How COULD you forget him? Tsk, tsk. :lol:

jbrownsjr
02-02-2006, 07:31 PM
Jeez, yeah...he was the ace of the staff during the late '70's/early 80's Dodger heyday (with Tommy John & Burt Hooton). How COULD you forget him? Tsk, tsk. :lol:

and Orel H

chiliD
02-02-2006, 07:36 PM
and Orel H

Orel didn't come around til later; after Welch had gone to the A's. (in fact, he was on the A's staff when Gibson hit "the homer" in the 1988 World Series)

DavidMn
02-02-2006, 09:10 PM
"Penguin" has a few gems, and a few stinkers. I can't imagine my Fleetwood Mac collection without such songs as "Remember Me," "Dissatisfied," "Revelation," "Did You Ever Love Me," and "Night Watch." The other four, not so much. It was a very casual album. They didn't seem too focused on what they were doing. But, in an artistic sense, the band was in the middle of shifting from the "Bare Trees" sound to the "Mystery To Me" sound. There are songs on "Penguin" that could have gone on the earlier albums, and others that could have gone on later albums.

I think it's safe to say that this album was very important for Christine as a pop songwriter. She had crafted a great pop tune with "Spare Me A Little" on the last album. "Penguin" showed that it wasn't a one-time deal. Her "Penguin" songs could have easily gone on later albums. (In fact, I've said that if you mix her "Penguin" songs in with the "Buckingham Nicks" album, it would have had that Big Mac sound.)Yeah, but Roadrunner makes me wanna gag...:eek:

DavidMn
02-02-2006, 09:12 PM
Jeez, yeah...he was the ace of the staff during the late '70's/early 80's Dodger heyday (with Tommy John & Burt Hooton). How COULD you forget him? Tsk, tsk. :lol:He went 27-6 with the A's in 1990 too.

DavidMn
02-02-2006, 09:37 PM
If I remember correctly, Bob Welch was one of the 3 pitshers who gave up Reggie's 3 homers in one game in the '77 series.

chiliD
02-03-2006, 02:02 AM
If I remember correctly, Bob Welch was one of the 3 pitshers who gave up Reggie's 3 homers in one game in the '77 series.


Yeah. :mad: Thanks for reminding me. :mad:

DavidMn
02-04-2006, 12:06 PM
Yeah. :mad: Thanks for reminding me. :mad:Yeah, but your team got payback in '81.:D

chiliD
02-06-2006, 02:07 AM
Yeah, but your team got payback in '81.:D

Yeah...but those four years were agony. (especially 1980 and that one game playoff loss to Houston. I think the Dodgers would've beaten the Phillies in the NLCS) The Dodgers just got lucky in '81 due to the mid-season strike and the "split-season" ruling by the commissioner...the REDS had the best record overall in the NL West and, in all actuality, should've been in the NLCS, not the Dodgers. The Reds got screwed out of the playoffs altogether that year. But, that's ancient history now.