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aleuzzi
01-08-2006, 05:27 PM
Hey everyone, I might be posting something that's already been talked to death but here goes:
I just bought a two-disc dvd of FM live performances from the mid seventies. Many of the performances were culled from well-known shows like the "Midnight Special" and Tokyo concerts. But there's also an early show from June 75 in Maryland. So early, in fact, that Stevie's wearing jeans instead of chiffon.
She looks amazing and sounds great, too. But what struck me was how subdued, almost tentative a performer she was at that time. She holds back a lot on her vocal harmonies and only sings lead on one song. In fact, on "Blue Letter," Christine's harmonies uncharacteristically overpower Stevie's. The bulk of the show is dominated by Chris (who does most of the chatting between songs) and Lindsey. I hadn't realized Stevie's role was so confined in the early days. Is this concert typical of the 75 performances?
DavidMn
01-08-2006, 05:30 PM
Hey everyone, I might be posting something that's already been talked to death but here goes:
I just bought a two-disc dvd of FM live performances from the mid seventies. Many of the performances were culled from well-known shows like the "Midnight Special" and Tokyo concerts. But there's also an early show from June 75 in Maryland. So early, in fact, that Stevie's wearing jeans instead of chiffon.
She looks amazing and sounds great, too. But what struck me was how subdued, almost tentative a performer she was at that time. She holds back a lot on her vocal harmonies and only sings lead on one song. In fact, on "Blue Letter," Christine's harmonies uncharacteristically overpower Stevie's. The bulk of the show is dominated by Chris (who does most of the chatting between songs) and Lindsey. I hadn't realized Stevie's role was so confined in the early days. Is this concert typical of the 75 performances?Yes I believe it is.:nod:
gldstwmn
01-08-2006, 08:16 PM
Hey everyone, I might be posting something that's already been talked to death but here goes:
I just bought a two-disc dvd of FM live performances from the mid seventies. Many of the performances were culled from well-known shows like the "Midnight Special" and Tokyo concerts. But there's also an early show from June 75 in Maryland. So early, in fact, that Stevie's wearing jeans instead of chiffon.
She looks amazing and sounds great, too. But what struck me was how subdued, almost tentative a performer she was at that time. She holds back a lot on her vocal harmonies and only sings lead on one song. In fact, on "Blue Letter," Christine's harmonies uncharacteristically overpower Stevie's. The bulk of the show is dominated by Chris (who does most of the chatting between songs) and Lindsey. I hadn't realized Stevie's role was so confined in the early days. Is this concert typical of the 75 performances?
Stevie got some brutal reviews in the early days. One reviewer called her voice "raucous".
Also, while they all joke about it now, I wonder if Stevie thought they might kick her out and keep Lindsey.
This was also the same time they were traveling by station wagon and sleeping in the back of trucks. Stevie has said her parents were quite apprehensive when they saw how much weight she had lost. So I think it could be attributed to all of the above.
macfan 57
01-09-2006, 06:31 AM
I just bought a two-disc dvd of FM live performances from the mid seventies. Many of the performances were culled from well-known shows like the "Midnight Special" and Tokyo concerts. But there's also an early show from June 75 in Maryland.
I have that Largo/Japan DVD too. That Largo show is my favorite live Fleetwood Mac show. I think it's probably later than June 1975, probably more like September 1975. Great set list, Chris pretty much fronting the band...what more could you want. They look and sound great.:thumbsup:
DavidMn
01-09-2006, 02:38 PM
I have that Largo/Japan DVD too. That Largo show is my favorite live Fleetwood Mac show. I think it's probably later than June 1975, probably more like September 1975. Great set list, Chris pretty much fronting the band...what more could you want. They look and sound great.:thumbsup:I will say as far as the Japan '77 show goes, I wasnt too enamored with that crimped hair thing Christine had going. Other than that, she sounded great, as she always does.:nod:
ryan8472
01-09-2006, 03:26 PM
I will say as far as the Japan '77 show goes, I wasnt too enamored with that crimped hair thing Christine had going. Other than that, she sounded great, as she always does.:nod:
David ~ It was 1975. :eek: :laugh:
aleuzzi
01-09-2006, 03:28 PM
I will say as far as the Japan '77 show goes, I wasnt too enamored with that crimped hair thing Christine had going. Other than that, she sounded great, as she always does.:nod:
I can live with Chris's crimped hair. But what was Stevie thinking with that perm and dress? And Mick's a bit too shaggy! lol
aleuzzi
01-09-2006, 03:33 PM
I have that Largo/Japan DVD too. That Largo show is my favorite live Fleetwood Mac show. I think it's probably later than June 1975, probably more like September 1975. Great set list, Chris pretty much fronting the band...what more could you want. They look and sound great.:thumbsup:
I agree, Mac Fan. As a fellow Chris fan I love that show! What a bold move beginning the set with "Get Like You Used to Be," which, as far as I know, wasn't normally their opening cut in previous years. And the redoubtable Station Man sounds amazing here. Her two songs "Spare Me" and "Why" receive among the loudest cheers of the set. Chris does everything right in that show. It just felt a little strange watching how unsure Stevie seemed in some of the numbers, sort of like "what am I supposed to do, be the band dancer?" She was deliberately holding back on her harmonies, too.
aleuzzi
01-09-2006, 03:34 PM
David ~ It was 1975. :eek: :laugh:
The Japan set was from 77. David's right.
ryan8472
01-09-2006, 03:42 PM
The Japan set was from 77. David's right.
Oh, I got the year wrong, sorry. But I was refering to Chris' awful crimped hair. :lol:
aleuzzi
01-09-2006, 03:45 PM
Oh, I got the year wrong, sorry. But I was refering to Chris' awful crimped hair. :lol:
Yeah, the hair crimp (which was awful) was from the 77 show in Japan.
ryan8472
01-09-2006, 03:46 PM
Yeah, the hair crimp (which was awful) was from the 77 show in Japan.
Well it was the 70's. She probably thought it looked pretty at the time. :laugh:
Then again, she might have been a little tipsy when she did her hair...
:p
macfan 57
01-09-2006, 04:27 PM
I agree, Mac Fan. As a fellow Chris fan I love that show! What a bold move beginning the set with "Get Like You Used to Be," which, as far as I know, wasn't normally their opening cut in previous years. And the redoubtable Station Man sounds amazing here. Her two songs "Spare Me" and "Why" receive among the loudest cheers of the set. Chris does everything right in that show. It just felt a little strange watching how unsure Stevie seemed in some of the numbers, sort of like "what am I supposed to do, be the band dancer?" She was deliberately holding back on her harmonies, too.
Of course, I agree with you about Chris.:) And, it was a great idea to open with "Get Like You Used To Be". According to my bootlegs, in the past they usually opened with "Crazy 'Bout You" (in 1970) & "Tell Me All The Things You Do" later on. In my opinion, "Get Like You Used To Be" worked better.
I think Stevie was a bit tentative early on. Keep in mind, she only sang lead on 2 songs in these 1975 shows.
macfan 57
01-09-2006, 04:32 PM
Well it was the 70's. She probably thought it looked pretty at the time. :laugh:
Then again, she might have been a little tipsy when she did her hair...
:p
Christine's crimped hair is not my favorite hairstyle of hers, but that's what women were doing in those days.:shrug:
Her crimped hair was trumped by Stevie's perm in that Midnight Special show though.;) :D
chiliD
01-09-2006, 05:51 PM
Of course, I agree with you about Chris.:) And, it was a great idea to open with "Get Like You Used To Be". According to my bootlegs, in the past they usually opened with "Crazy 'Bout You" (in 1970) & "Tell Me All The Things You Do" later on. In my opinion, "Get Like You Used To Be" worked better.
I think Stevie was a bit tentative early on. Keep in mind, she only sang lead on 2 songs in these 1975 shows.
"Get Like You Used To Be" was the opener for more than just the 75 tour. It opened most of their earlier sets from at LEAST Penguin onwards.
macfan 57
01-09-2006, 06:52 PM
"Get Like You Used To Be" was the opener for more than just the 75 tour. It opened most of their earlier sets from at LEAST Penguin onwards.
I was mainly referring to their 1970-1972 shows since most of my bootlegs were from that time period.
Hey everyone, I might be posting something that's already been talked to death but here goes:
I just bought a two-disc dvd of FM live performances from the mid seventies. Many of the performances were culled from well-known shows like the "Midnight Special" and Tokyo concerts. But there's also an early show from June 75 in Maryland. So early, in fact, that Stevie's wearing jeans instead of chiffon.
She looks amazing and sounds great, too. But what struck me was how subdued, almost tentative a performer she was at that time. She holds back a lot on her vocal harmonies and only sings lead on one song. In fact, on "Blue Letter," Christine's harmonies uncharacteristically overpower Stevie's. The bulk of the show is dominated by Chris (who does most of the chatting between songs) and Lindsey. I hadn't realized Stevie's role was so confined in the early days. Is this concert typical of the 75 performances?
I've been looking for 70's era FM videos/DVD. Where did you buy them? Thanks.
aleuzzi
01-11-2006, 12:09 AM
I've been looking for 70's era FM videos/DVD. Where did you buy them? Thanks.
I went to ebay and looked under the dvd section for Fleetwood Mac. Funny, a week ago there were hoards of bootlegs. Today I checked and I can't find any. Keep checking there, though. If that doesn't work, I can get the name of the seller, too, if you send a private message.
aleuzzi
01-11-2006, 12:13 AM
"Get Like You Used To Be" was the opener for more than just the 75 tour. It opened most of their earlier sets from at LEAST Penguin onwards.
I didn't know this! Any bootlegs I've heard from the '74 shows begin with "Green Manalishi." I can't remember what the opening cut was for the 73 bootleg "Will the Real FM please stand up" but I don't recall it being "Get Like You Used to Be." It sounds like you have other bootleg recordings that you're referring to, in which case I'm jealous!:cool:
macfan 57
01-11-2006, 06:25 AM
I've been looking for 70's era FM videos/DVD. Where did you buy them? Thanks.
You don't have to buy them. There are quite a few traders who could help you out. That's how I got my DVD.:)
macfan 57
01-11-2006, 06:29 AM
I didn't know this! Any bootlegs I've heard from the '74 shows begin with "Green Manalishi." I can't remember what the opening cut was for the 73 bootleg "Will the Real FM please stand up" but I don't recall it being "Get Like You Used to Be." It sounds like you have other bootleg recordings that you're referring to, in which case I'm jealous!:cool:
The "Will The Real Fleetwood Mac Please Stand Up" bootleg is really a version of that 1974 Sausalito bootleg. I know of no bootleg recording from 1973, unfortunately & I've got all of the 1970-1974 bootlegs that I know of that are currently in circulation.
chiliD
01-11-2006, 10:52 AM
I didn't know this! Any bootlegs I've heard from the '74 shows begin with "Green Manalishi." I can't remember what the opening cut was for the 73 bootleg "Will the Real FM please stand up" but I don't recall it being "Get Like You Used to Be." It sounds like you have other bootleg recordings that you're referring to, in which case I'm jealous!:cool:
Will The Real Fleetwood Mac Please Stand Up is NOT, NOT, NOT from 1973...it is the same recordings as the Sausalito 1974 or Bermuda Triangle bootlegs which were from 1974
I was at two shows in 1974, both shows had "Get Like You Used To Be" as the opening tune...followed by "Station Man" (sound familiar?)...then the set as it is on WTRFMPSU, plus "Bad Loser", "Jumping At Shadows" (sung by Christine), "Nightwatch" (with Mick's African Talking Drum solo ala early live versions of "World Turning"), and "Coming Home" mixed in here & there (at one of the shows, they even did Danny's "Jewel-Eyed Judy"). Plus additional encore tunes of "Homeward Bound" & "Shake Your Moneymaker" (before "Hypnotized" and the bluesy one-chord jam called "Mystery To Me" that also appears on the Ultrasonic boot).
Remember, both WTRFMPSU and Ultrasonic Studios: Live in Hempstead NY 1974 are "live in studio" recordings with a controlled audience for radio broadcast, not actual CONCERT recordings. Sort of early incarnations of The Dance except for radio, rather than TV.
And, also remember that back then Fleetwood Mac didn't pick a set, then play it to death like they have since 1977, either. They were changing the set around night to night.
Also, early bootlegs are rarely "complete" shows...due to tape length being much shorter than digital discs of today.
The "Will The Real Fleetwood Mac Please Stand Up" bootleg is really a version of that 1974 Sausalito bootleg. I know of no bootleg recording from 1973, unfortunately & I've got all of the 1970-1974 bootlegs that I know of that are currently in circulation.
Oops. Guess I should've read the WHOLE thread before replying. :o
aleuzzi
01-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Wow, ChiliD, I am, am, AM jealous! I would have loved to have heard AND seen "Bad Loser" and "Night Watch" in concert.
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