Mick Fleetwood appriciation thread

[DavidMn]

A post I just made in the pre-Rumours section got me thinking, I know what I'm about to say will be obvious to some of you, but I really need to say it. As a Fleetwood Mac fan for almost 29 years, I have grown to love this band for it's diverse history more than anything else. And to me at least, there is one man who is responsible for keeping Fleetwood Mac together through thick and thin, lineup after lineup, and that man is Mick Fleetwood. I dont care how much money he's made, or how much went up his nose back in the day, at the core of it all is his love for this band, and his refusal to let it die. I did not get a chance to see Fleetwood Mac live until the Dance tour becuse I was either too young, didnt have the money, or whatever, and I had a chance to personally thank him and share my thoughts that I'm sharing here with him when I had the chance to meet him in 2003. He seemed genuinely touched that someone would thank him in this manner, and for me, there was no other choice. This band has been there for me through thick and thin, my rock really when things were going to **** at any point in my life, and i know that if it werent for Mick, I probably would have never gotten the chance to ever see Fleetwood Mac live. I'm sure there are people out there that know more than I do about this band and it's various members or whatever, but this is a very personal thing for me that I just needed to express. Thank you Mick for ever letting this band die. For all of your personal strifes and headaches Fleetwood mac has caused you, you never lost sight of what was most important to you, this great band. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

[Neal]

Very well said! :cool:






;)

[Lindsey Jr.]

A post I just made in the pre-Rumours section got me thinking, I know what I'm about to say will be obvious to some of you, but I really need to say it. As a Fleetwood Mac fan for almost 29 years, I have grown to love this band for it's diverse history more than anything else. And to me at least, there is one man who is responsible for keeping Fleetwood Mac together through thick and thin, lineup after lineup, and that man is Mick Fleetwood. I dont care how much money he's made, or how much went up his nose back in the day, at the core of it all is his love for this band, and his refusal to let it die. I did not get a chance to see Fleetwood Mac live until the Dance tour becuse I was either too young, didnt have the money, or whatever, and I had a chance to personally thank him and share my thoughts that I'm sharing here with him when I had the chance to meet him in 2003. He seemed genuinely touched that someone would thank him in this manner, and for me, there was no other choice. This band has been there for me through thick and thin, my rock really when things were going to **** at any point in my life, and i know that if it werent for Mick, I probably would have never gotten the chance to ever see Fleetwood Mac live. I'm sure there are people out there that know more than I do about this band and it's various members or whatever, but this is a very personal thing for me that I just needed to express. Thank you Mick for ever letting this band die. For all of your personal strifes and headaches Fleetwood mac has caused you, you never lost sight of what was most important to you, this great band. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

Beautiful, and so true!

[TwistedGypsy]

when I had the chance to meet him in 2003.

And don't forget 2004 also. What you said was great and I enjoyed smelling your hand which smelled like Mick. :D He's got style.
Brit

[DavidMn]

And don't forget 2004 also. What you said was great and I enjoyed smelling your hand which smelled like Mick. :D He's got style.
BritThat's right. I almost forgot about that. Yes that was fun wasnt it?

[David]

A post I just made in the pre-Rumours section got me thinking, I know what I'm about to say will be obvious to some of you, but I really need to say it. As a Fleetwood Mac fan for almost 29 years, I have grown to love this band for it's diverse history more than anything else. And to me at least, there is one man who is responsible for keeping Fleetwood Mac together through thick and thin, lineup after lineup, and that man is Mick Fleetwood.I don't care whether he or anybody else kept Fleetwood Mac together. Mick is a fantastic drummer whose sound I get especially excited about. So it's for that I love Mick. I have always loved Mick.
I dont care how much money he's made, or how much went up his nose back in the day, at the core of it all is his love for this band, and his refusal to let it die.As far as I'm concerned, at the core of it all is Mick's drum sound & style. He's a perfect drummer for my aesthetic needs.
I did not get a chance to see Fleetwood Mac live until the Dance tourMajor bummer.

Good post, Dave!

[DavidMn]

I don't care whether he or anybody else kept Fleetwood Mac together. Mick is a fantastic drummer whose sound I get especially excited about. So it's for that I love Mick. I have always loved Mick.
As far as I'm concerned, at the core of it all is Mick's drum sound & style. He's a perfect drummer for my aesthetic needs.
Major bummer.

Good post, Dave!Thank you. Coming from you, that's a definite compliment!!!

[chiliD]

...And to me at least, there is one man who is responsible for keeping Fleetwood Mac together through thick and thin, lineup after lineup, and that man is Mick Fleetwood.

I agree in general, but being a nit-pick for details...

...sure, Mick has kept Fleetwood Mac together, but he's also responsible for its near demise, too.

The Mystery To Me tour, Jenny Fleetwood/Bob Weston affair. When he flipped out & hid out in Africa setting up the "fake Mac" debacle, which, although we think of now in barely passing (thanks to BOB WELCH), nearly was the demise of the band altogether. If they hadn't won the subsequent litigation (which, considering the contracts that had been signed, was a miracle), The band, as we know it, would've ceased to exist.

[dontlookdown]

I've met Mick and I love him.
The label on his bottles of wine however, is a different story.
Really cheeeeeeeeesey.

[jannieC]

I've always been a big fan of Mick's as well. For his talent AND for keeping Fleetwood Mac and all it's incarnations going.

At the last SYW show I went to, I had front row and couldn't wipe the stupid smile off my face the whole time. When Mick came out from behind the kit, he took a double take at me (seriously, my plastered smile may have looked deranged). He winked and waved to me- I was thrilled. :lol:

[Karlie]

A post I just made in the pre-Rumours section got me thinking, I know what I'm about to say will be obvious to some of you, but I really need to say it. As a Fleetwood Mac fan for almost 29 years, I have grown to love this band for it's diverse history more than anything else. And to me at least, there is one man who is responsible for keeping Fleetwood Mac together through thick and thin, lineup after lineup, and that man is Mick Fleetwood. I dont care how much money he's made, or how much went up his nose back in the day, at the core of it all is his love for this band, and his refusal to let it die. I did not get a chance to see Fleetwood Mac live until the Dance tour becuse I was either too young, didnt have the money, or whatever, and I had a chance to personally thank him and share my thoughts that I'm sharing here with him when I had the chance to meet him in 2003. He seemed genuinely touched that someone would thank him in this manner, and for me, there was no other choice. This band has been there for me through thick and thin, my rock really when things were going to **** at any point in my life, and i know that if it werent for Mick, I probably would have never gotten the chance to ever see Fleetwood Mac live. I'm sure there are people out there that know more than I do about this band and it's various members or whatever, but this is a very personal thing for me that I just needed to express. Thank you Mick for ever letting this band die. For all of your personal strifes and headaches Fleetwood mac has caused you, you never lost sight of what was most important to you, this great band. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.


Well said, David. Mick is awesome. I met him twice this year and both times he was so nice to me. :)

[jbrownsjr]

what a great thread... (thanks DavidMn)

Mick has done some of the best and worst drumming I've ever heard.

[Gailh]

He is a great drummer and without a doubt without him FM would have broken up years ago.

He's made some bad judgement calls along the way but then who hasn't?

Nobody's perfect (except Christine :lol: )

Gail

[ThePenguin]

Nobody's perfect (except Christine :lol: )

Gail

Until she married John, as the story goes. :rolleyes:

-Lis (back from a week long vacation and boy am i glad to be home)

[DavidMn]

I agree in general, but being a nit-pick for details...

...sure, Mick has kept Fleetwood Mac together, but he's also responsible for its near demise, too.

The Mystery To Me tour, Jenny Fleetwood/Bob Weston affair. When he flipped out & hid out in Africa setting up the "fake Mac" debacle, which, although we think of now in barely passing (thanks to BOB WELCH), nearly was the demise of the band altogether. If they hadn't won the subsequent litigation (which, considering the contracts that had been signed, was a miracle), The band, as we know it, would've ceased to exist.That litigation ended in 1978 right?

[SteveMacD]

...sure, Mick has kept Fleetwood Mac together, but he's also responsible for its near demise, too.

The Mystery To Me tour, Jenny Fleetwood/Bob Weston affair. When he flipped out & hid out in Africa setting up the "fake Mac" debacle, which, although we think of now in barely passing (thanks to BOB WELCH), nearly was the demise of the band altogether. If they hadn't won the subsequent litigation (which, considering the contracts that had been signed, was a miracle), The band, as we know it, would've ceased to exist.
Blame the victim much? Why not blame Weston and Jenny? If they had kept it in their pants and not been cavorting around like a couple of idiots in front of Amy and Lucy, the tour would have continued, and THAT variation of Fleetwood Mac could have been a hit. And, that IS the reason why it happened. Not because Weston had an affair with his wife, but because they were so open about it in front of the girls. If it had just been the affair, I bet the band would have continued. But, I suspect Mick's breakdown was a cumulative effect of three years of being in an incredibly stressful situation. Since taking over the leadership role from Peter, he lead the band through the Jeremy and Danny crises, through what was becoming a revolving door of personnel, through various dysfunctions within the band (including a very demanding manager), and all while seeing guys he came up with (i.e. Rod Stewart, Jeff Beck, and Eric Clapton) become rock gods while his band was just making ends meet. Hell, how hard could it have been for him to see Carlos Santana, a guy who Peter Green convinced Bill Graham to give a shot at the Fillmore when Fleetwood Mac was in town, having a HUGE hit with a Fleetwood Mac song, while Fleetwood Mac itself hadn't had a huge hit since "Manalishi," and never in the USA? Mick had a moment of weakness, which most people would have had YEARS earlier. We all have our breaking points, and Mick found his.

[DavidMn]

I agree in general, but being a nit-pick for details...

...sure, Mick has kept Fleetwood Mac together, but he's also responsible for its near demise, too.

The Mystery To Me tour, Jenny Fleetwood/Bob Weston affair. When he flipped out & hid out in Africa setting up the "fake Mac" debacle, which, although we think of now in barely passing (thanks to BOB WELCH), nearly was the demise of the band altogether. If they hadn't won the subsequent litigation (which, considering the contracts that had been signed, was a miracle), The band, as we know it, would've ceased to exist.Well, it's good to present all the facts. Bob definitely was a major part of keeping things together those rough few months

[DavidMn]

Blame the victim much? Why not blame Weston and Jenny? If they had kept it in their pants and not been cavorting around like a couple of idiots in front of Amy and Lucy, the tour would have continued, and THAT variation of Fleetwood Mac could have been a hit. And, that IS the reason why it happened. Not because Weston had an affair with his wife, but because they were so open about it in front of the girls. If it had just been the affair, I bet the band would have continued. But, I suspect Mick's breakdown was a cumulative effect of three years of being in an incredibly stressful situation. Since taking over the leadership role from Peter, he lead the band through the Jeremy and Danny crises, through what was becoming a revolving door of personnel, through various dysfunctions within the band (including a very demanding manager), and all while seeing guys he came up with (i.e. Rod Stewart, Jeff Beck, and Eric Clapton) become rock gods while his band was just making ends meet. Hell, how hard could it have been for him to see Carlos Santana, a guy who Peter Green convinced Bill Graham to give a shot at the Fillmore when Fleetwood Mac was in town, having a HUGE hit with a Fleetwood Mac song, while Fleetwood Mac itself hadn't had a huge hit since "Manalishi," and never in the USA? Mick had a moment of weakness, which most people would have had YEARS earlier. We all have our breaking points, and Mick found his.Excellent point!!! I still think he mustve known somewhere deep inside that sucsess would come in a big way one day soon.

[Villavic]

I like Mick, I like his book and I like the way he kept the band alive.

[DavidMn]

I like Mick, I like his book and I like the way he kept the band alive.That wa a good book wasnt it?

[jbrownsjr]

i liked the book too :shrug:

[DavidMn]

i liked the book too :shrug:Just to be clear were talking about the one he wrote with Steven Davis right? not the one that came out in conjunction with the box set.

[David]

i liked the book too :shrug:The book is a great read!

I learned a lot about the band from the book. Others who say it's all a pack of lies or whatever mystify me. How can it all be a pack of lies? Probably a good 50 percent of it is copied right from Rolling Stone & Hit Parader articles, & even some Circus & Mojo articles.

The only disappointment with the book was the photos. Mick should have busted the book FULL of color photos: candids, live shots, stuff nobody had ever seen before. Instead, he runs a bunch of press photos that are everywhere.

[DavidMn]

The book is a great read!

I learned a lot about the band from the book. Others who say it's all a pack of lies or whatever mystify me. How can it all be a pack of lies? Probably a good 50 percent of it is copied right from Rolling Stone & Hit Parader articles, & even some Circus & Mojo articles.

The only disappointment with the book was the photos. Mick should have busted the book FULL of color photos: candids, live shots, stuff nobody had ever seen before. Instead, he runs a bunch of press photos that are everywhere.I cant remember, who exactly were the leaders of the "Pack of lies" theory regarding the book?

[ThePenguin]

The only disappointment with the book was the photos. Mick should have busted the book FULL of color photos: candids, live shots, stuff nobody had ever seen before. Instead, he runs a bunch of press photos that are everywhere.

I recall also being really disappointed in the boring photos he used. He must have photos out the wazoo, but chose the ones we've all seen.

-Lis

[DavidMn]

I recall also being really disappointed in the boring photos he used. He must have photos out the wazoo, but chose the ones we've all seen.

-LisYeah, but werent the ones with Judy Wong on the plane in that book or was that the other one?

[Villavic]

The book is a great read!

I learned a lot about the band from the book. Others who say it's all a pack of lies or whatever mystify me. How can it all be a pack of lies? Probably a good 50 percent of it is copied right from Rolling Stone & Hit Parader articles, & even some Circus & Mojo articles.

The only disappointment with the book was the photos. Mick should have busted the book FULL of color photos: candids, live shots, stuff nobody had ever seen before. Instead, he runs a bunch of press photos that are everywhere.

About the pack of lies, I have not found in any other source about a fact that was 100% denied about Mick's book. I think the most controversial point is the day Lindsey definitely left the band. But as long as I know John confirmed he said to Lindsey "you better live" as the describes it; though he meant leaving the room, not the band. Anyway, I think that episode was very private for the band and everybody was upset with Mick about writing that.
Some facts may differ in details from the truth, but in general I think it's very accurate.

And about pics, look for the annivesary big book that appeared the same year of the box set "My 25 years in Fleetwood Mac" (by M.F.) It rules in pictures!!! (OH!!! btw, in that book Mick says Stevie and Chris left the band and the BTM tour because they were wealthy and didn't want the pressure of touring, etc..) but I learned that the girls were upset with him about the book

[HomerMcvie]

I recall also being really disappointed in the boring photos he used. He must have photos out the wazoo, but chose the ones we've all seen.

-Lis
Kind of sounds like a songlist we all know!:lol: :lol:

[SteveMacD]

(OH!!! btw, in that book Mick says Stevie and Chris left the BTM tour because they didn't want the pressure of touring, etc..) but I knew that the girls were upset about the book
That's not true. Christine's dad died during the BTM, and Christine realized that she wanted to be with her family, and that she really didn't enjoy being on the road. Stevie decided to quit touring with the Mac because she didn't want to be the only singer from "Rumours" fronting the band. She could do it without one, but not both. Initially, both were still going to record with Fleetwood Mac, which Christine DID, but Stevie decided to quit altogether. They might not have liked the book, but that had nothing to do with their decision in 1990. I read ONE article that said they were upset about the book, but nothing that said the book was why they quit. Honestly, do you believe that Mick would intentionally do something if he thought for a moment that it would cost him his band?

[macfan 57]

Some facts may differ in details from the truth, but in general I think it's very accurate.


I agree. Even Bob Welch confirmed in one of his Q & A's that Mick's book was largely accurate. I really enjoyed it. It's a great read & I'm glad he wrote it. The 1992 book has terrific photos. I had never seen most of them anywhere else before. But, the text is redundent. Most of it was reprinted from Mick's 1990 book.

[Villavic]

That's not true. Christine's dad died during the BTM, and Christine realized that she wanted to be with her family, and that she really didn't enjoy being on the road. Stevie decided to quit touring with the Mac because she didn't want to be the only singer from "Rumours" fronting the band. ....Honestly, do you believe that Mick would intentionally do something if he thought for a moment that it would cost him his band?

Interesting. I just read the girls were upset. I think, but not sure.. it was in Brunning's book, but I may be wrong. Now I know it was a wrong info. glad about that. In general, I think there are several points about FM history.. that we will never know the real reason (like the Stevie-Lindsey break up. To this day I've heard several theories..)

And yes, I don't think Mick would do something if it would cost the band.. but sometimes we do things unintentionally..

[David]

Interesting. I just read the girls were upset. I think, but not sure.. it was in Brunning's book, but I may be wrong.I don't think Stevie is exactly glad that Mick wrote this book. According to Mick (who told Graham Nash this on his TV show on A&E), Stevie threatened to sue him before the book was published if he went ahead with it (she was worried about how he was going to discuss their own relationship). And once the book was out, she always claimed she never read it (to this day, she claims this).

But Steve's right: Stevie didn't leave FM because of the book. Those of us who saw Mac on the final U.S. leg of the 1990 tour remember Stevie playfully introducing Mick as a best-selling author (the book was a big hit on the best-seller lists).

All in all, the other members of FM thought the book was a trashy, mercenary thing, & it even hurt some feelings (Lindsey's). But that's about it.

[SteveMacD]

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[Villavic]

Mick's book is not on stores anymore, just in Amazon.. and you cand find just used issues.

I remeber I bought that book in Amsterdam, may 1992. I didn't know it even existed. To me it was wonderful since it was the day I flied to Peru, last vacation day, and it was like 15 hours with a long stop in Madrid. So the book was a gift from heaven. When I arrived to Lima I had read half the book.

I remember, to that day, I didn't know if Chris and John were brothers or marriage, so you can imagine my Macthology from that time. There were no internet and current magazines didn't have articles about Fleetwood Mac. No in 1992.

The book is my bible and it's still in my bedroom, the pages are old and yellow, and I never borrow it!!!!

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[DavidMn]

I don't think Stevie is exactly glad that Mick wrote this book. According to Mick (who told Graham Nash this on his TV show on A&E), Stevie threatened to sue him before the book was published if he went ahead with it (she was worried about how he was going to discuss their own relationship). And once the book was out, she always claimed she never read it (to this day, she claims this).

But Steve's right: Stevie didn't leave FM because of the book. Those of us who saw Mac on the final U.S. leg of the 1990 tour remember Stevie playfully introducing Mick as a best-selling author (the book was a big hit on the best-seller lists).

All in all, the other members of FM thought the book was a trashy, mercenary thing, & it even hurt some feelings (Lindsey's). But that's about it.Well, at least they were able to get past it and keep making music.:)

[jbrownsjr]

Just to be clear were talking about the one he wrote with Steven Davis right? not the one that came out in conjunction with the box set.

yes SDavis book