I Hate The Grammys [Archive]

TwistedGypsy

12-08-2005, 08:52 AM

All that the "Academy" cares about is getting ratings and selling their cd they come out with every year. Mariah Carey and Paul McCartney should not be in the same sentece. They only way you can get nominated is if you had a "popular song" with the 12-21 age group. Or if you died or if your a real artist that might be older and had sort of a comeback.
A huge WTF for the Grammys. They have been going down hill for quite sometime. Its not about whats good its about whats popular.
The f**king Emancipation of Mimi. What the hell is that???? So juvenile. And John Legend with Ordinary People. That was probably the most annoying song of the year. Talk about repetition.
I can't wait till Hip-Hop goes away, I hate it. The music carries no meaning for me. Neither does this supposed "Rock" compliments of Fall Out Boy. :shrug:
Whatever, I won't be watching The Grammys this year.
Brit

I have one more comment: On The Early Show, they just said people are comparing Mariah's comeback to Sinatra's comeback. Are you kidding me??? The world as we know it is coming to an end.

Jyqm

12-08-2005, 09:04 AM

All that the "Academy" cares about is getting ratings and selling their cd they come out with every year.

Well, yeah.

A huge WTF for the Grammys. They have been going down hill for quite sometime.

No they haven't. The Grammys have always been terrible, their decisions have always been questionable at best, and they've always been more concerned with awarding popularity than any other criterion, at least in the major categories that are broadcast on television. So take a deep breath, light a few candles, draw yourself a bath, and promise yourself that you'll never get upset about the Grammys again. They're not worth your ire, or any other of your emotions.

I can't wait till Hip-Hop goes away, I hate it. The music carries no meaning for me.

Don't hold your breath.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but there are plenty of people in the world who would say the same thing about Stevie Nicks.

TwistedGypsy

12-08-2005, 09:18 AM

You're right. But it just felt good to get it off my chest. But I still strongly dislike Mariah Carey. :nod:
Brit

Jyqm

12-08-2005, 09:33 AM

You're right. But it just felt good to get it off my chest. But I still strongly dislike Mariah Carey. :nod:
Brit

I don't care for her, either, but rather than get angry, I'm just laughing. It's hilarious some of the folks she and her music are up against.

JazmenFlowers

12-08-2005, 10:19 AM

You're right. But it just felt good to get it off my chest. But I still strongly dislike Mariah Carey. :nod:
Brit
I happen to like Mariah Carey a great deal. I know that there are some cynical comments that can be made, some of which I would agree with. However, I will say that you should listen to some of her songs that aren't released as singles. I find her lyrics to be very uplifting and touching. They reach me in a similar way that Stevie's lyrics do. While I enjoy her "hits", a lot of times it's the lyrics to her other songs that are really touching. You should check out Petals, one of my favorite Mariah songs, and Bliss and Vulnerability. I think Mariah is very talented.

As for the Grammys, I haven't really agreed with their classificiations and nominees in a long time. I'm used to it. We live in a commercial world.

chiliD

12-08-2005, 10:43 AM

I'm sorry you feel that way, but there are plenty of people in the world who would say the same thing about Stevie Nicks.

And, some of them are Fleetwood Mac fans, as well. :shrug: :eek: :lol:

estranged4life

12-08-2005, 11:10 AM

And, some of them are Fleetwood Mac fans, as well. :shrug: :eek: :lol:

I deal with on other websites (Especially those which are Beatles related websites) say "Fleetwood Mac ceased to exist when Buckingham/Nicks joined".

As for the Grummies, Been a joke as long as I remember (ie-Jethro Tull wins Best Metal Album over Metallica)...Wonder which dead artist will be their poster person this year?

Thank God I have 180+ channels to choose from, I avoid any and all award shows these days!

JazmenFlowers

12-08-2005, 11:57 AM

I deal with on other websites (Especially those which are Beatles related websites) say "Fleetwood Mac ceased to exist when Buckingham/Nicks joined".
haters

As for the Grummies, Been a joke as long as I remember (ie-Jethro Tull wins Best Metal Album over Metallica)...Wonder which dead artist will be their poster person this year?
that's a great question. who all has died this year?

Thank God I have 180+ channels to choose from, I avoid any and all award shows these days!
amen. tho, I usually watch the very beginning and the very end just to catch what they think are the highlight performances.

golden braid

12-08-2005, 12:07 PM

Jyqm

12-08-2005, 12:43 PM

As for the Grummies, Been a joke as long as I remember (ie-Jethro Tull wins Best Metal Album over Metallica)...Wonder which dead artist will be their poster person this year?

I'm always excited to see who wins Best New Artist. It's always nice to know ahead of time that I'm not going to have to worry about hearing from these people ever again within a year's time. I'm torn between wanting to to go to Fall Out Boy or Keane...

MacMan

12-08-2005, 12:51 PM

Yeah, the telecast of the show kind of sucks now.. But I'm not sure why. Is it because I'm just not into as many of the artist nominated as I used to be when I was younger?... Or have they really changed the way they do things. I'll tend to believe the later...

The combination of types of music all lumpted together is sort of commical... But I have to agree with JazmenFlowers.. I like Mariah Carey too (and I'm no kid) - And this particular album "MIMI" is really quite good, with more then a few stand out tracks. And Kanye West,as pompus as he seems, deserves all the accolades he's receiving too - its another great cd.

Jyqm

12-08-2005, 01:02 PM

And Kanye West,as pompus as he seems, deserves all the accolades he's receiving too - its another great cd.

Oh, Late Registration clearly ought to win Album of the Year, especially given the competition. I doubt it will though.

DavidMn

12-08-2005, 02:19 PM

And, some of them are Fleetwood Mac fans, as well. :shrug: :eek: :lol:There you go again, trying to stir the pot.:lol:

chiliD

12-08-2005, 02:33 PM

There you go again, trying to stir the pot.:lol:

Maybe, maybe not. :shrug: But you have to admit, I speak the truth. :nod:

I deal with on other websites (Especially those which are Beatles related websites) say "Fleetwood Mac ceased to exist when Buckingham/Nicks joined".

Hooray for them for counting the Bob Welch years. :blob2:

Quite a few folks I've talked to have said that Fleetwood Mac ended when Peter Green quit, and that they've been a sham ever since. Just because the Rumours crew is my least favorite incarnation, somehow, quite a few folks around here have lumped me in with that latter segment, :eek: which couldn't be further from how I feel. :cool:

Brwn_eyes0511

12-08-2005, 02:35 PM

You're right. But it just felt good to get it off my chest. But I still strongly dislike Mariah Carey. :nod:
Brit

Mariah rocks...

end of story...

Brwn_eyes0511

12-08-2005, 02:37 PM

I deal with on other websites (Especially those which are Beatles related websites) say "Fleetwood Mac ceased to exist when Buckingham/Nicks joined".

WOW! :blob2: People love the Transitional years! :blob2:

DavidMn

12-08-2005, 03:24 PM

Maybe, maybe not. :shrug: But you have to admit, I speak the truth. :nod:

Hooray for them for counting the Bob Welch years. :blob2:

Quite a few folks I've talked to have said that Fleetwood Mac ended when Peter Green quit, and that they've been a sham ever since. Just because the Rumours crew is my least favorite incarnation, somehow, quite a few folks around here have lumped me in with that latter segment, :eek: which couldn't be further from how I feel. :cool:I never have. You as far as I'm concerned, you're one of the best fans here.

CreepingDeath

12-08-2005, 07:24 PM

The Grammys always suck. I've hated the Grammys since Jethro Tull won best metal over Metallica which is ridiculous. Then of course after that Metallica won all the time even when they didn't really deserve it.

Oh, come on. "Better Than You" and "Whiskey in the Jar" definitely deserved a Grammy. :laugh:

foxyluva

12-08-2005, 10:40 PM

yes, the grammys are ridiculous. Its purely a popularity contest. You either have to sell a huge amount (even though your album could be appauling - "The Emancipation of Mimi" comes to mind), or you ahve to have something tragic happen to you, like Foxy Brown is nominated for "Come Fly With Me" for best rap female, which doesn't even have a video or an album, purely because shes making headlines because she has gone deaf! :(

JazmenFlowers

12-08-2005, 11:02 PM

You either have to sell a huge amount (even though your album could be appauling - "The Emancipation of Mimi" comes to mind)
don't agree with that :shrug:

foxyluva

12-08-2005, 11:09 PM

don't agree with that :shrug:

Well, the album is okay (I just don't like to admit it :o because she is SUCH a loser!) but, for album of the year?? i mean do they take anything into consideration other than popularity & sales??

Brwn_eyes0511

12-08-2005, 11:11 PM

Well, the album is okay (I just don't like to admit it :o because she is SUCH a loser!)

Losers don't usually become one of the best selling female artists of all time! ;)

foxyluva

12-08-2005, 11:20 PM

Losers don't usually become one of the best selling female artists of all time! ;)

lol, i cant believe people are sticking up for her, doesn't anybody think she is such a retard?

I like her music though - her newest album is alot better than charmbracelet, but she has gone too hip hop for my liking, her older stuff is lightyears ahead of anything she has done recentley :)

Wild_Heart03

12-09-2005, 12:00 AM

I'm more than willing to admit that I love Mariah Carey, and I even liked both "We Belong Together" and "Shake It Off"... but I still thought that Emancipation was a bit overrated. :shrug:

catinthedark

12-09-2005, 12:32 AM

for album of the year??

Are you serious? It's up for Album of the Year? Well, that's sad commentary on the music produced in 2005. Yikes. :shocked:

(Or, I guess, just a sad commentary on the farce that is the voting for these awards)

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 08:06 AM

Are you serious? It's up for Album of the Year? Well, that's sad commentary on the music produced in 2005. Yikes. :shocked:

(Or, I guess, just a sad commentary on the farce that is the voting for these awards)

You got it right on the second count. There was tons of wonderful music released in 2005 (or rather, October 2004 through September 2005), but very little of it was nominated for any Grammys, at least in the major categories.

There are a few interesting/non-laughable races:

Best Rap Album features Common, Missy Elliott, Eminem, 50 Cent and Kanye West. Kanye will probably walk away with that one.

Best Alternative Music Album features Arcade Fire, Beck, Death Cab For Cutie, Franz Ferdinand and the White Stripes. I'm guessing Death Cab will take home that one (not sure why Arcade Fire are even in there, since Funeral was released in September 2004; and where the hell is Sufjan Stevens?).

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 08:09 AM

i mean do they take anything into consideration other than popularity & sales??

By and large, no. Unless you're a prestige/pity choice.

JazmenFlowers

12-09-2005, 09:48 AM

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 10:17 AM

and that's just your opinion

Phew, that's a relief, thanks for letting us know. For a second there, I thought Cat was citing a scientific article and I was very confused.

JazmenFlowers

12-09-2005, 10:52 AM

Phew, that's a relief, thanks for letting us know. For a second there, I thought Cat was citing a scientific article and I was very confused.
Now that comment wasn't even necessary.

being in the legal field, I'm well aware of citations. I was pointing out that there are others who don't feel that way.

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 10:58 AM

Now that comment wasn't even necessary.

Nor is a "That's just your opinion" post. I'm pretty sure - I hope! - that everyone here realizes that most of what they post is comprised of their own opinions which may or may not be shared by others.

JazmenFlowers

12-09-2005, 11:16 AM

Nor is a "That's just your opinion" post. I'm pretty sure - I hope! - that everyone here realizes that most of what they post is comprised of their own opinions which may or may not be shared by others.
geez...

ok

jannieC

12-09-2005, 11:47 AM

I will admit that Mariah is talented. Personally I haven't liked anything she's done since her first CD (God, I started to type "album"), but that doesn't mean I don't think she has talent- just not my style of music. She's just such a ridiculous and awful person- tacky personified.

The whole Metallica/Jethro Tull thing was insane- I think I gave up on the Grammy's then. I like to watch the beginning to see what everyone is wearing. ;)

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 12:17 PM

I will admit that Mariah is talented. Personally I haven't liked anything she's done since her first CD (God, I started to type "album")

Why'd you stop? They're still called albums. People didn't stop calling them that when they switched to 33 1/3 LPs, or when cassette tapes were introduced. No need to drop the term because CDs are currently the dominant medium. And Mariah is, after all, nominated in the Album of the Year category.

jannieC

12-09-2005, 12:46 PM

Why'd you stop? They're still called albums. People didn't stop calling them that when they switched to 33 1/3 LPs, or when cassette tapes were introduced. No need to drop the term because CDs are currently the dominant medium. And Mariah is, after all, nominated in the Album of the Year category.
Well, thank you for that. :) You're absolutely right. Album it is.

foxyluva

12-09-2005, 06:56 PM

You got it right on the second count. There was tons of wonderful music released in 2005 (or rather, October 2004 through September 2005), but very little of it was nominated for any Grammys, at least in the major categories.

There are a few interesting/non-laughable races:

Best Rap Album features Common, Missy Elliott, Eminem, 50 Cent and Kanye West. Kanye will probably walk away with that one.

Best Alternative Music Album features Arcade Fire, Beck, Death Cab For Cutie, Franz Ferdinand and the White Stripes. I'm guessing Death Cab will take home that one (not sure why Arcade Fire are even in there, since Funeral was released in September 2004; and where the hell is Sufjan Stevens?).

I would have liked to have seen Rollingstones up for album of the year, or even Robert Plant :shrug:

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 07:23 PM

I would have liked to have seen Rollingstones up for album of the year, or even Robert Plant :shrug:

There's really only room for one old fart/prestige/pity nomination in a major category like Album of the Year. Robert Plant has been releasing fairly consistent solo albums to little fanfare for a while now, so he certainly was not on the radar. I would imagine the Stones may have been considered, though, since they're a wildly popular live act whose new album received a fair amount of hype along the lines of, "Man, they've released a lot of awful crap in the past ten-plus years, but this one is surprisingly decent!" Of course, Paul McCartney has the exact same story this year, plus he's been crappier for a longer period of time, so that's probably why he won the nomination in the end.

The Stones are nominated for Best Rock Album, though. They're up against Coldplay, Foo Fighters, U2 and Neil Young. I'd say they've got a fairly decent chance of winning that one, actually.

Robert Plant is also nominated in a couple of categories. He's up for Best Solo Rock Vocal Performance for "Shine It All Around," against songs by Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen, Rob Thomas and Neil Young. And he's up for Best Hard Rock Performance for "Tin Pan Valley," against songs by Audioslave, Nine Inch Nails, Queens Of The Stone Age and System Of A Down.

foxyluva

12-09-2005, 07:35 PM

There's really only room for one old fart/prestige/pity nomination in a major category like Album of the Year. Robert Plant has been releasing fairly consistent solo albums to little fanfare for a while now, so he certainly was not on the radar. I would imagine the Stones may have been considered, though, since they're a wildly popular live act whose new album received a fair amount of hype along the lines of, "Man, they've released a lot of awful crap in the past ten-plus years, but this one is surprisingly decent!" Of course, Paul McCartney has the exact same story this year, plus he's been crappier for a longer period of time, so that's probably why he won the nomination in the end.

The Stones are nominated for Best Rock Album, though. They're up against Coldplay, Foo Fighters, U2 and Neil Young. I'd say they've got a fairly decent chance of winning that one, actually.

Robert Plant is also nominated in a couple of categories. He's up for Best Solo Rock Vocal Performance for "Shine It All Around," against songs by Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen, Rob Thomas and Neil Young. And he's up for Best Hard Rock Performance for "Tin Pan Valley," against songs by Audioslave, Nine Inch Nails, Queens Of The Stone Age and System Of A Down.

Yay!:blob2: Thats awesome to hear - atleast they are both nominated for something. Does anyone have a complete list of all nominees?

Jyqm

12-09-2005, 07:43 PM

Yay!:blob2: Thats awesome to hear - atleast they are both nominated for something. Does anyone have a complete list of all nominees?

I suppose it's not very nice keeping my vast store of knowledge to myself, huh?

http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx

catinthedark

12-10-2005, 02:16 AM

and that's just your opinion

Uh... yeah. That's what I thought all my posts here were. My opinion. Your posts would be your opinion, I imagine, and not your neighbour's?

:)

JazmenFlowers

12-10-2005, 01:57 PM

Uh... yeah. That's what I thought all my posts here were. My opinion. Your posts would be your opinion, I imagine, and not your neighbour's?

:)
duh. we all know that they are opinion. I was simply pointing out the fact that not everyone agrees with you. For artists I like, I can't just overlook derogatory comments. period.

DavidMn

12-10-2005, 01:58 PM

duh. we all know that they are opinion. I was simply pointing out the fact that not everyone agrees with you. For artists I like, I can't just overlook derogatory comments. period.And I dont blame you at all for coming to the defense of your favorites.:nod:

catinthedark

12-10-2005, 06:11 PM

duh. we all know that they are opinion. I was simply pointing out the fact that not everyone agrees with you. For artists I like, I can't just overlook derogatory comments. period.

No worries - I never for one second assumed everyone did agree with me. :)

JazmenFlowers

12-10-2005, 06:55 PM

No worries - I never for one second assumed everyone did agree with me. :)
cool. then we agree. :lol:

JazmenFlowers

12-10-2005, 06:56 PM

And I dont blame you at all for coming to the defense of your favorites.:nod:
damn straight...or I'll kick your ass. :laugh:

bikerchic

02-06-2006, 01:40 PM

Is this what we can expect at the Grammys? As much as I hate the tramp, I must say, I do love this version.

http://www.youtube.com/?v=C0skpPmwq8I

DavidMn

02-06-2006, 01:42 PM

I'm so fired up for Wednesday night that I think I'm going to accept my invitation to a laundry folding party instead....:lol:

wondergirl9847

02-06-2006, 01:46 PM

I'll be watching for Keith! He's doing a song with Faith Hill, so that should be something different and I heard he's also doing You'll Think of Me, but that doesn't sound right. Has anyone ever done 2 songs on the Grammys?

DavidMn

02-06-2006, 01:50 PM

JohnL

02-06-2006, 02:40 PM

As much as I could care less who wins what award, I am going to be watching for a couple of key performances. I really want to see what Keith Urban and Faith Hill will do together. I am mostly left flat with Faith's live performances. Hopefully she will kick it up a notch. I am most excited to see Christina Aguilera's song with Herbie Hancock. The name of the song is escaping me right now but it is on Herbie's CD that came out a few months ago. I know the Carpenter's recorded the same song back in the day. She has an AWESOME voice...better than any other in the business I think...and she has tamed down her looks. I love me some Christina!!:blob2:

Brwn_eyes0511

02-06-2006, 02:45 PM

bikerchic

02-08-2006, 12:12 PM

How many times has FM performed at the Grammy's?

SuzeQuze

02-08-2006, 12:26 PM

bikerchic

02-08-2006, 12:35 PM

I hear there's a spat between Madge and Mooooriah on who was going to open the show. Apparently Madge was going to boycott the show if she didn't open......you go girl! :lol:

jannieC

02-08-2006, 12:41 PM

I hear there's a spat between Madge and Mooooriah on who was going to open the show. Apparently Madge was going to boycott the show if she didn't open......you go girl! :lol:
Oy, the egos! I honesty don't know why I watch anymore. I'm so far behind on the music scene. I don't know who half the people nominated are anymore. But I do watch it every year, and this one will be no execption.

Speaking of Keith Urban (okay, I was thinking of him, not speaking of him)- someone gave me a concert DVD of his for Christmas. While I'm a big fan of his looks, I'm not such a big fan of his music. Does anyone want this? I'll be happy to mail it to you, if I can find it. :)

DavidMn

02-08-2006, 01:38 PM

OH WOW! He is doing a song with FAITH?!?!? :blob1: :thumbsup:Are Liza and Billie Joe Armstrong seperated at birth? Man she looks like him in that pic of yours Brandon.

skcin

02-08-2006, 02:16 PM

Haven't decided if I'll bother watching. I'm thinking I'll TIVo it just in case something good happens & watch something else.

bikerchic

02-08-2006, 02:33 PM

Haven't decided if I'll bother watching. I'm thinking I'll TIVo it just in case something good happens & watch something else.
You watch! :mad: It's like watching a train wreck. :laugh: :wavey:

On that big mother ass tv!

Brwn_eyes0511

02-08-2006, 02:36 PM

Are Liza and Billie Joe Armstrong seperated at birth? Man she looks like him in that pic of yours Brandon.

Well since it's her look...he must be copying from her! ;)

DavidMn

02-08-2006, 02:37 PM

Well since it's her look...he must be copying from her! ;)Do you know who he is? I figured you did.

Rhiannon2121

02-08-2006, 02:41 PM

Like it was said before Grammys are all about record companies trying to promote their acts. Take Fiona Apple for example, she was trying to put out her new cd for like 4-5 years and fought with her record company and such. Now last year ( 05) it finally comes out, its not a bad cd but.... " POP ALBUM OF THE YEAR"....??? How did that get there??? Her record company got it there ... that's how...why.....more sales.

Just my2c

Ps... and because of such I have not watched in years.