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SpyNote
11-27-2005, 09:59 PM
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Bohemian Rhapsody
Enter the magic world of famed Fleetwood Mac singer Stevie Nicks. It comes complete with the bohemian trappings of a seasoned rock chick, as Sharon Krum discovers when she visits the original witchy woman at her Los Angeles home.

By Sharon Krum
Women's Weekly, December 2005

THE ONLY THING you're hoping as your car climbs the sweeping driveway to Stevie Nicks' Los Angeles oceanfront home is that you won't be disappointed, that the house will be as you imagine it. When its owner is the ultimate rock poet, a woman who has spent 30 years channeling gypsies, sprites and goddesses, it's only natural to envision velvet surrounds and lace shawls -- bohemian meets heavenly.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/stevienicksinfo/05_1201_02_big.jpg Legendary singer Stevie Nicks, 57, at her LA oceanfront home. She has survived the ups and downs of the music industry to forge a successful solo career.

So as you make your way past the hedges blooming with bougainvillea, roses, honeysuckle and jasmine, up the white steps inlaid with Spanish titles, your heart starts to beat a little faster, your curiosity gets the better of you. What if, privately, Stevie Nicks keeps things simple? Then you step inside and immediately start smiling, relieved. It's everything you hoped -- only better.

It's early afternoon and there are candles lit and dripping, the sweet smell of incense fills every room. There are fairy dolls and life-size sprites, gold scarves and velvet couches, beaded pillows and antique lamps. The Pacific Ocean outside provides the perfect soundtrack, as the sound of waves lapping the shore seeps into every corner of the house.

"I designed this place, it's all me," Stevie says proudly, showing The Weekly around her 1927 two-story, Spanish-style abode. "But the thing that makes it for me is the ocean. I could never live in a forest. I need the roar of the ocean; it gives me energy. One of the things I love about going to Australia is that I can stay by the ocean wherever I go."

Meet Stevie Nicks and you learn it's impossible to separate her from her home (she has another in her birthplace of Phoenix, Arizona), which for her is both a cocoon and source of inspiration. "My idea of a good time is right there," she says pointing to a desk in her study. "I sit here, the ocean crashes outside and I write in my journal, then go to the piano. That, for me, is heaven."

It might be summer, but we are sitting in her living room with a fire roaring, with Stevie's Yorkshire terrier Sulamith at her side, and it feels perfect. Stevie was in Australia in November for the Victorian Racing Carnival -- she had a race named for her, The Stevie Nicks Stakes -- and to promote the Australian leg of her Gold Dust solo tour, which begins in February, including performing separate concerts with John Farnham and the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra.

"What I love about my life is that you never know what surprises come up," she says of the face she has inspired a horse race. "I've been to the Kentucky Derby and loved it, all the excitement and drama. But my own race, in Australia! I'm just thrilled."

As for the tour, I'm looking for a delicate way to mention her age -- a number at which most female rock stars have long packed it in -- when she happily beats me to it. "I'm 57!" she cries. "I know what you're going to ask. Why do I keep going? Firstly, it keeps me young. I love performing," says the woman whose hits Rhiannon, Sorcerer, Stand Back, Landslide, Gold Dust Woman and Edge of Seventeen are all certified classics.

Yet, in the age of Britney and Beyonce, isn't she feeling a little too old to still be a "rock chick"? She shakes her head. "I know there will come a time when I'll feel too old to have my picture taken in flimsy rock clothes. I already don't wear short skirts anymore, but I'll never feel too old to go on stage because I'm proud of the songs, and the music is always fresh for me.”

“You know, Edge of Seventeen was about John Lennon dying, then it became about September 11. I feel Landslide, which was about me deciding whether to continue doing music with Lindsey Buckingham [her ex and Fleetwood Mac guitarist], is now about Hurricane Katrina.”

“But I do wrestle with aging, don't get me wrong," she continues, her frustration clear. "I don't like it one bit. I'm aware I'm looking older, [she actually looks fantastic, more 47 than 57, and slim, having just lost 10 kilos at Weight Watchers], but I don't want to have a facelift. I did not spend my whole life working to be Stevie Nicks to alter my face so people will say, you know, you kind of look like Stevie Nicks."

From the moment she stepped on stage in 1975 as a member of Fleetwood Mac, all long blonde hair, platform boots, top hat and swirling robes inspired by the legends of gypsies and fairies she always loved, you knew you were watching the birth of a star. Stevie had a voice like velvet gravel and the sex appeal to match, but like many rock stars, her upward trajectory was punctuated by devastating cocaine and traquilliser addictions, now long conquered.

Amazingly, in an industry where sustained success with one band is hard enough, Stevie has also carved out a phenomenal solo career, testament to her talent as a songwriter, not to mention a romantic history, which included singers Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood and Don Henley, that she says she will one day chronicle in an autobiography. "But not yet, I'm not done yet," she says with a laugh.

In person, Stevie presents as an engaging tangle of contradictions. She's a deep thinker but a voluble talker, an artist who loves performing, yet is a self-confessed homebody. When not on tour, she says she retreats to write, compose and spend time with family and a close-knit circle of female friends. "That why my home is so important to me."

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/stevienicksinfo/05_1201_05_big.jpg Above: The colour in the red living room was inspired by the painting of a gypsy, which hangs over the fireplace. Stevie uses the piano in this room to compose.

Though each room has a different colour scheme, the house collectively does have the sense of being a sanctuary. In the red living room, which Stevie says was inspired by the painting of a gypsy girl that hangs over the fireplace, rich red velvet couches sit atop a crimson Persian carpet, while palm fronds, red roses, a crystal ball and white candles add a sensual touch. In one corner is Stevie's piano and images of sprites line every wall. Only one gold record hangs here -- for the Australian release of Fleetwood Mac's Say You Will.

"I feel she sort of rules the room," Stevie says staring up at the gypsy painting. "I built all the red around her. It's funny because when I got her in 1998, I didn't feel like she was that much younger than me. Now I feel I'm getting older and she's getting younger. It's very Dorian Gray."

Curiously, while she loves the red room, Stevie admits "the green room is where I live." A study outfitted with cool green velvet couches, a desk, TV and a fairy doll ensconced in a birdcage, it offers 360 degree views of the ocean. "It's really my salvation. If I wake up and I'm not in a good humour, I rock into that room and -- boom! -- I'm in a good mood."

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/stevienicksinfo/05_1201_04_big.jpg A self-confessed homebody despite her rock chick credentials, Stevie sees her home as a cocoon and sanctuary from the world, to write and think.

They don't call Stevie the gold dust woman for nothing: her bedroom makes it clear why. Gold-beaded pillows and a gold quilt decorate the bed, while overhead, a canopy made up of glittering scarves gives the room an unbelievable glow.

Her second bedroom, all in white, boasts a four-poster bed, a "fainting couch" and antique lamps.

Like a true gypsy, Stevie moves often (on tour she often changes rooms in the same hotel after a while) and is actually leaving this home for a new house two blocks away, where every room, she says, will be recreated as it is here.

"This house was a great bachelorette house, but there's a not enough privacy if I want to have a man here, or friends to stay, or my family. We would all be on top of each other. I have god-daughters and a niece I adore, and I want to have them with me."

Indeed, framed photos of her god-daughters and niece are everywhere, and the joy in her voice when she talks about them reveals what a great mother she would have been. Yet motherhood, Stevie says, was not for her. "I chose not to have children because I didn't want to compromise my art. That's selfish, but that's how you have to be."

"My mother always said to me, 'You came here to make people feel better and take away pain, and give people warm hugs with your music.' For me to be a mother, with my life, would have meant having a nanny and I could never have my children run across a room to another woman."

Men, she says, have long presented a different dilemma. Oh sure, there were relationships, many passionate, but ultimately she believes her life is too much for any man. Currently single, her last relationship ended a year ago. "I have been out with everyone from a waiter to famous rock stars," she says, grinning. "And none of them could handle it. It's hard when the limo pulls up and you get in, and leave them behind."

"For me to be in relationship, it would have to be with somebody who found my life totally amusing and loved all my girlfriends, and is okay with me leaving -- and that man is very hard to find. We'll see," she says philosophically.

"I tell people I live in a world of possible romance at any time. But honestly, I don't care if it doesn't happen, because I love being myself."

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/stevienicksinfo/05_1201_06_big.jpg Above: Despite loving her current home, Stevie is planning to move to another house two blocks away and recreate the rooms, so she has plenty of space for her family and friends to come and stay.

Yet Stevie has long made it clear that hers is solitude she is willing to forgo at a moment's notice when it comes to charity. A truly generous spirit, she raises funds for the Arizona Heart Institute (where her late father, Jesse, was treated for heart disease), the City of Hope Cancer Center in LA and has recently made repeat visits to injured soldiers at Walter Reed Army Hospital in Washington.

"I think it's very important for rock stars to be involved, to give our support to causes," she says, dismissing naysayers.

At Walter Reed, Stevie delivered 450 iPods programmed with music. After Hurricane Katrina, she put the demo of her song Touched by an Angel on the Internet, with all proceeds going to the victims.

"I believe music is the great healer, the thing that connects all of us," she says.

Stevie confesses that in the days before The Weekly arrived, she was having more than a touch of anxiety. About getting the house ready? The interview? No, hats.

"I've heard how fabulous the hats and clothes are at the races in Melbourne," she says, admitting that she had spent hours on the Internet staring at pictures of past winners of the fashion stakes.

"I've taken lots of notes about the hats," says the woman who actually has her own fabulous collection. "I want to make sure I do it right."

STEVIE NICKS GOLD DUST TOUR
February 18, 2006 Melbourne, Rod Laver Arena, with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra

Feburary 20: Brisbane Entertainment Centre, with John Farnham

February 24: Newcastle Entertainment Centre

February 25: Sydney Entertainment Centre

February 28: Perth, The WACA, with John Farnham

Janis_no1
11-27-2005, 10:04 PM
IF ANYONE WANTS A COPY LET ME KNOW!!!!

:shocked: OH MY GOODNESS!!! I cannot believe it!! Thats it, im actually going to go down the road right now... stuff it!

WOWEEE!!!

GODDESS6
11-27-2005, 10:18 PM
awesome i haven't received my copy yet, this was a great read!!!~

Janis_no1
11-27-2005, 10:58 PM
OK!! Just got back with 4 magazines in tow!! ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!! OMG! A little disappointed in the magazine people thugh, dont even have her article listed as in it!

Karlie
11-27-2005, 11:40 PM
Wow! :] Thanks for posting!

eclipse
11-28-2005, 07:05 AM
Ditto!!
Thanks for posting

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 08:35 AM
Thanks so much! Awesome photos too!

snowman
11-28-2005, 08:50 AM
Thanks for your time in posting this. Very nice!!

Gypsy-Rhiannon
11-28-2005, 09:38 AM
Thanks for posting!

Serendipity
11-28-2005, 10:35 AM
Thanks so much for posting, love it!

~Nicki

krrrby
11-28-2005, 10:43 AM
Excuse me if I'm stupid or lost, but this part:

"Currently single, her last relationship ended a year ago."

Huh? :shrug:

ELIUD
11-28-2005, 01:35 PM
"For me to be in relationship, it would have to be with somebody who found my life totally amusing and loved all my girlfriends, and is okay with me leaving -- and that man is very hard to find. We'll see," she says philosophically.


This looks like a job for a gay man.

David
11-28-2005, 01:37 PM
Excuse me if I'm stupid or lost, but this part:

"Currently single, her last relationship ended a year ago."

Huh? :shrug:I guess that it means that Stevie is currently single, & that her last relationship ended a year ago.

amber
11-28-2005, 01:50 PM
This looks like a job for a gay man.

:lol: :lol:

SapphireSister
11-28-2005, 02:12 PM
Anyone know who Stevie's God daughters are? I believe one of them is named Stevie Rose whom she mentioned on this last tour but I'm not sure who she is. Could you imagine Stevie being your God mother? I'm off to my God mother Stevie's house for the weekend. See ya soon :wavey:.

SapphireSister
11-28-2005, 02:15 PM
"I did not spend my whole life working to be Stevie Nicks to alter my face so people will say, you know, you kind of look like Stevie Nicks."

Classic! :laugh: :laugh:

estranged4life
11-28-2005, 02:38 PM
"For me to be in relationship, it would have to be with somebody who found my life totally amusing and loved all my girlfriends, and is okay with me leaving -- and that man is very hard to find. We'll see," she says philosophically.


well, I could fulfill that job...But I dont think the wife would be that happy about it though.

Brian "The only family member who has only been married once" j.

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 02:54 PM
Anyone know who Stevie's God daughters are? I believe one of them is named Stevie Rose whom she mentioned on this last tour but I'm not sure who she is. Could you imagine Stevie being your God mother? I'm off to my God mother Stevie's house for the weekend. See ya soon :wavey:.

I know 2 of them are the daughters of Stevie's cousin, Susie. Susie actually worked for my girlfriend's ex-sister-in-law's father at Irvine Lakes. (got all that? LOL) Small world.

cliffdweller
11-28-2005, 02:58 PM
"I did not spend my whole life working to be Stevie Nicks to alter my face so people will say, you know, you kind of look like Stevie Nicks."

Classic! :laugh: :laugh:

I loved that too.

By the way, she said that if she stayed in that house and had her friends and family over that they'd be "living on top of each other?" That house looked PLENTY big enough to me :shrug:. Seems like a lot of hassle to move all that **** on over next door :laugh:.

BTFLCHLD
11-28-2005, 03:04 PM
Seems like a lot of hassle to move all that **** on over next door :laugh:. lindsey did just that, right?

LeighB04
11-28-2005, 03:07 PM
By the way, she said that if she stayed in that house and had her friends and family over that they'd be "living on top of each other?" That house looked PLENTY big enough to me :shrug:. Seems like a lot of hassle to move all that **** on over next door :laugh:.[/QUOTE]


Mehtinks it's possibly more about having a man over - maybe Stevie likes to make noise....:xoxo:

Oh - and why oh why does she wear so much black when she looks FABULOUS in reds and creams.....????????????????

maygirl
11-28-2005, 03:09 PM
: Thanks for getting transcript!!!!! Why doesnt anyone believe that Stevie could have had a relationship.......she is not that in the public eye.that much......she does look radiant lately.......maybe it was someone in her band!!!!!!!! Carlos or Waddie??????:shrug: :xoxo:

LeighB04
11-28-2005, 03:10 PM
: Thanks for getting transcript!!!!! Why doesnt anyone believe that Stevie could have had a relationship.......she is not that in the public eye.......she does look radiant lately.......maybe it was someone in her band!!!!!!!! Carlos or Waddie??????:shrug: :xoxo:



.... or the waiter?

dissention
11-28-2005, 03:10 PM
"I did not spend my whole life working to be Stevie Nicks to alter my face so people will say, you know, you kind of look like Stevie Nicks."

Classic! :laugh: :laugh:

Having as good a surgeon as she has had affords her the luxury of making such statements.

cliffdweller
11-28-2005, 03:15 PM
Mehtinks it's possibly more about having a man over - maybe Stevie likes to make noise....:xoxo:

Oh - and why oh why does she wear so much black when she looks FABULOUS in reds and creams.....????????????????

:laugh: --to the first part of your post

And to the second-- AMEN!! That red rose duster/cape thing she is wearing is phenomenal!! She looks absolutely beautiful in those photos!

LiquidBlue5000
11-28-2005, 03:30 PM
Having as good a surgeon as she has had affords her the luxury of making such statements.

:laugh: exactly ;)

cliffdweller
11-28-2005, 03:45 PM
lindsey did just that, right?

Touche ;)

dissention
11-28-2005, 03:47 PM
:laugh: exactly ;)

OMG, I totally loved your old nose/new nose gallery. I looked at it and was glad I wasn't enjoying a beverage because I would have choked on it.

GypsyAsh
11-28-2005, 04:02 PM
Some lucky human being out there will soon own Stevie Nicks' former home.... and what a home it is.. maybe we can pretend to be potential buyers and take a tour...

hehe
ciao
Ash
x

LiquidBlue5000
11-28-2005, 04:11 PM
OMG, I totally loved your old nose/new nose gallery. I looked at it and was glad I wasn't enjoying a beverage because I would have choked on it.

:laugh: well, it needed to be proven to the non-believers and i'm glad i was finally able to do that ;)

oh, and i'm glad you weren't drinking a beverage :wavey:

Highwayman
11-28-2005, 04:14 PM
"This house was a great bachelorette house, but there's a not enough privacy if I want to have a man here...

And how often does she reach for her little black book of man pimps to have a selection sent over? LOL!!! :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

equeen102289
11-28-2005, 04:15 PM
Thanks for posting this! That was a great read and those are some awesome pics! The girl definitely should wear color more often!

Johnny Stew
11-28-2005, 04:31 PM
I'm not going to bother getting too deep into another plastic surgery conversation, and I'm not going to bother coming out on the side of "she did" or "she didn't," but you guys do realize, don't you, that no one's nose looks exactly as it did in their 20s & 30s when they're in their 50s & 60s?
Noses don't stay "perky" forever... bobbed or not.

And if she did have her nose bobbed, it's still not the same as having a surgical facelift. As dissention has pointed out in the past, she very well could have had a non-surgical "facelift" at some point... so her comment in this article isn't necessarily untrue.

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm not going to bother getting too deep into another plastic surgery conversation, and I'm not going to bother coming out on the side of "she did" or "she didn't," but you guys do realize, don't you, that no one's nose looks exactly as it did in their 20s & 30s when they're in their 50s & 60s?
Noses don't stay "perky" forever... bobbed or not.

And if she did have her nose bobbed, it's still not the same as having a surgical facelift. As dissention has pointed out in the past, she very well could have had a non-surgical "facelift" at some point... so her comment in this article isn't necessarily untrue.

Agreed Johnny! I see women in their 40's and up all day long at work (In La Jolla, CA - one of the biggest homes of plastic surgery clientel (sp?)), and I'm no plastic surgeon, but it's pretty easy to tell when someone's had some surgery done and when they haven't. In my opinion, and in staring at Stevie's face as much as I have :rolleyes: , she hasn't had any surgery done. Maybe some microderm or something, but cutting and pulling, nah. Just my little opinion...

ELIUD
11-28-2005, 04:56 PM
These are the days of such ubiquitous pharmacuetical and surgical enhancements that people are both jaded and overly skeptical of beauty and believe anything resembling flawless perfection is cast aside as fake, unreal or altered.

Women with beautiful tits = fake.
Men with muscles = steroids.
A pretty 50 year old = plastic surgery.

dissention
11-28-2005, 05:01 PM
As dissention has pointed out in the past, she very well could have had a non-surgical "facelift" at some point...

Yeah, in recent years. Around the time of The Dance? She had work done, imo.

Brwn_eyes0511
11-28-2005, 05:01 PM
Yeah, in recent years. Around the time of The Dance? She had work done, imo.

Stevie and Christine got the two for one special! :nod:

LiquidBlue5000
11-28-2005, 05:03 PM
Agreed Johnny! I see women in their 40's and up all day long at work (In La Jolla, CA - one of the biggest homes of plastic surgery clientel (sp?)), and I'm no plastic surgeon, but it's pretty easy to tell when someone's had some surgery done and when they haven't. In my opinion, and in staring at Stevie's face as much as I have :rolleyes: , she hasn't had any surgery done. Maybe some microderm or something, but cutting and pulling, nah. Just my little opinion...

she's clearly had a nose job

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 05:04 PM
If Stevie WAS into plastic surgery, why hasn't she had something done about those earlobes of her's? You'de think she'd have gotten those things altered first if she was into plastic surgery at all. :shrug: I hate to say it, but those things are Goblinesque!

amber
11-28-2005, 05:06 PM
If Stevie WAS into plastic surgery, why hasn't she had something done about those earlobes of her's? You'de think she'd have gotten those things altered first if she was into plastic surgery at all. :shrug: I hate to say it, but those things are Goblinesque!
My thoughts, too. When I saw them on the tour, I finally understood why she almost always had her hair down. I've never seen earlobes that big.

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 05:10 PM
My thoughts, too. When I saw them on the tour, I finally understood why she almost always had her hair down. I've never seen earlobes that big.

LOL! Exactly! They're HUGE!

golddustorm
11-28-2005, 05:40 PM
Sorry to switch the topic back to the article, but...the jacket in the first photo (with the white top hat)...do you guys think it's one of the 5 she ordered from the recent fashion show? It certainly looks like a military type (I can't remember what it was called at the show) jacket to me.

danax6
11-28-2005, 05:50 PM
she's clearly had a nose jobYup, you had me convinced. :wavey:

I agree about the earlobes. I think if anything, that is the easiest thing to have fixed with surgery. I wonder it if bothered her... she hardly ever wore her hair up, or at least showed her ears. She got them from her dad though. :)

Brwn_eyes0511
11-28-2005, 05:56 PM
she's clearly had a nose job

oh yep...she has! :nod:

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 05:59 PM
Sorry to switch the topic back to the article, but...the jacket in the first photo (with the white top hat)...do you guys think it's one of the 5 she ordered from the recent fashion show? It certainly looks like a military type (I can't remember what it was called at the show) jacket to me.

Sorry- I got off on an ear tangent! :lol: Not sure about the jacket, but that black dress in the livingroom photo looks just like the Beauty and the Beast dress. :nod:

~Jamie

jkmaletic
11-28-2005, 06:03 PM
oh yep...she has! :nod:

Brandon- don't agree with you, but I LOVE your avatar! :nod: :lol: "I do all my own dizzy spells." You know, I recently heard tapes of Judy Garland (mommy to Liza) before she died talking into a tape recorder for a book deal she had and she was talking some CRAZY SH*T!! :eek: It was classic diva-going-over-the-deep-end stuff!

Brwn_eyes0511
11-28-2005, 06:07 PM
Brandon- don't agree with you, but I LOVE your avatar! :nod: :lol: "I do all my own dizzy spells." You know, I recently heard tapes of Judy Garland (mommy to Liza) before she died talking into a tape recorder for a book deal she had and she was talking some CRAZY SH*T!! :eek: It was classic diva-going-over-the-deep-end stuff!

hmmm those tapes aren't really supposed to be out there...but somehow over the years they have been a poopular grab. They were made I believe during the late night summer of 1967...very drunk nights and high and meds. I have heard them...and I don't really like them because I think Judy was ashamed that they were ever made to begin with once she realized what she had done...:distress: Those tapes are not a good representation of Judy.

ELIUD
11-28-2005, 06:10 PM
Sorry- I got off on an ear tangent! :lol: Not sure about the jacket, but that black dress in the livingroom photo looks just like the Beauty and the Beast dress. :nod:

~Jamie
Yes that is the black Beauty and the Beast cloak. It looks like she's wearing it over one of her witchy skirts with sparkles on it and probably her boots.

she's clearly had a nose job
And you know what? The changes in Stevie's nose are so subtle and insignificant that "she's clearly had a nose job" is hardly a fair statement.

Serrart
11-28-2005, 06:12 PM
hmmm those tapes aren't really supposed to be out there...but somehow over the years they have been a poopular grab. They were made I believe during the late night summer of 1967...very drunk nights and high and meds. I have heard them...and I don't really like them because I think Judy was ashamed that they were ever made to begin with once she realized what she had done...:distress: Those tapes are not a good representation of Judy.

Remember the funeral scene in A Star Is Born? There will always be someone anxious to rip that veil.

Romy

Johnny Stew
11-28-2005, 06:17 PM
And you know what? The changes in Stevie's nose are so subtle and insignificant that "she's clearly had a nose job" is hardly a fair statement.We Nicks fans are a melodramatic sort. Even the ones on the opposite ends of debates. ;) :laugh:

bikerchic
11-28-2005, 06:32 PM
Noses don't stay "perky" forever... bobbed or not.


That's right. Don't you know people that noses and ears never stop growing. That's why grandma and grandma have such big organs. :nod:

ELIUD
11-28-2005, 06:35 PM
That's right. Don't you know people that noses and ears never stop growing. That's why grandma and grandma have such big organs. :nod:

Funny bikerchic, but EWWWWWW.

bikerchic
11-28-2005, 06:36 PM
Funny bikerchic, but EWWWWWW.
It's true.

dissention
11-28-2005, 07:54 PM
hmmm those tapes aren't really supposed to be out there...but somehow over the years they have been a poopular grab. They were made I believe during the late night summer of 1967...very drunk nights and high and meds. I have heard them...and I don't really like them because I think Judy was ashamed that they were ever made to begin with once she realized what she had done...:distress: Those tapes are not a good representation of Judy.

Those tapes were used for that crappy "Get Happy" book by Gerald Clarke, were they not? She recorded them for her own book that she never had the chance to write. I think she was quite aware of what she was doing. She wanted and needed the cash that any book would generate.

And I love the avatar. AD rocks.

Brwn_eyes0511
11-28-2005, 08:09 PM
Those tapes were used for that crappy "Get Happy" book by Gerald Clarke, were they not? She recorded them for her own book that she never had the chance to write. I think she was quite aware of what she was doing. She wanted and needed the cash that any book would generate.

Get Happy was a terrible book...yes! Just ask Lorna about that one! :lol:

The book that she WAS going to write was finished by Gerold Frank and it is simply called "JUDY" and it is the best one out there...hands down!

And although she was recording for a reason, a lot of the tapes were made during drunken nights when she WASN'T aware of what she was really saying. I think she eve acknowledged before she died that those tapes were a mistake...but I'm not sure...I'll have to look into that.

Although I do have to admit the tapes are funny!!!


And I love the avatar. AD rocks.

And yes AD rocks...I have watched it ever since Liza's first guest appearance in Season 1!

sara1998
11-28-2005, 08:52 PM
Thanks, Spynote, for typing this out for us to read. Very much appreciated!

val721
11-28-2005, 09:26 PM
(im new to this soo hey everyone:)

& thank you so much for typing this!!!

SapphireSister
11-28-2005, 09:56 PM
Oh - and why oh why does she wear so much black when she looks FABULOUS in reds and creams.....????????????????

Haven't you heard? Black makes you look thinner ;).

(Stevie has said that about a million times)

SapphireSister
11-28-2005, 10:04 PM
I love performing," says the woman whose hits Rhiannon, Sorcerer, Stand Back, Landslide, Gold Dust Woman and Edge of Seventeen are all certified classics.



Since when is Sorcerer a hit or a certified classic for that matter?

tlssln
11-28-2005, 10:18 PM
she's clearly had a nose job

If so, she should sue for a refund. I don't think she's had one. She is way too concerned about the effect on her voice. Her voice is her livelihood, not her face. Stevie always knew that.

tlssln
11-28-2005, 10:24 PM
Since when is Sorcerer a hit or a certified classic for that matter?

That's what I thought too when I read it. And why does Stevie need a second bedroom? Can she sleep in two places at once or does she switch if she has a bad dream in one? LOL.

SapphireSister
11-28-2005, 10:25 PM
I think she at least had something done for medical reasons to prevent it from collapsing from all the coke use. There was probably nothing left but a bit of cartilage so she had it worked on to prevent any further damage. Of course we know there is still a giant hole in there.

SapphireSister
11-28-2005, 10:27 PM
That's what I thought too when I read it. And why does Stevie need a second bedroom? Can she sleep in two places at once or does she switch if she has a bad dream in one? LOL.

When she and her "man" get into an argument he can sleep in her other bedroom.

ELIUD
11-29-2005, 12:13 PM
I think she at least had something done for medical reasons to prevent it from collapsing from all the coke use. There was probably nothing left but a bit of cartilage so she had it worked on to prevent any further damage. Of course we know there is still a giant hole in there.
So you're saying she had her nose completely rebuilt to look almost exactly like her original nose but left the hole in her septum so as not to affect her voice? WHATEVER.

SapphireSister
11-29-2005, 12:42 PM
So you're saying she had her nose completely rebuilt to look almost exactly like her original nose but left the hole in her septum so as not to affect her voice? WHATEVER.

I'm not saying she had her nose completely rebuilt, I'm saying she could have had some minor work done on it. Reparing the hole in her septum could possibly have changed her voice significantly and Stevie herself has said she didn't want that to happen or she would have gotten it fixed a long time ago. There is other work that could have been done involving the bone and cartilage around the nose that would not have involved the septum.

No need for an attitude with the "WHATEVER" by the way ;). I'm no plasitic surgeon, these are only speculations and this is a message board to discuss such things.

ELIUD
11-29-2005, 01:01 PM
Sorry for my attitude SapphireSister, but of all the plastic surgery discussions regarding Stevie, i.e. facelifts, liposuction, neck work, I think a nose job is the one that I find most hard to believe. Not that you started it, but after being a fan of hers for so long and drawing her picture for years, make dolls and really studying her face from as many angles as I could find, her nose is the one feature I find most unique about her face and I would bet my life that it has never been worked on. Primarily because of everything you already mentioned about her fearing it would affect her voice.

I WISH she would have the hole closed off through surgery even if it changed the appearance of it, just to see if it would allow her to sing like she used to.

bikerchic
11-29-2005, 01:02 PM
Me, myself does not think Stevie has had her nose done. Those before and after shot comparisons are more like before and after air brushing. I think her nose is actually bigger now (because of aging). In the 70's - 90's, her nose was small and perky but in the Boston dvd close up's her nose looks wider at the nostrils. Stevie's nose is perfection so that's why I think she would know not to mess with a good thing. I've always wanted a nose like hers.

ELIUD
11-29-2005, 01:04 PM
Me, myself does not think Stevie has had her nose done. ...I've always wanted a nose like hers.
Because it's perfect. And effing cute as hell!

golden braid
11-29-2005, 02:10 PM
Me, myself does not think Stevie has had her nose done. Those before and after shot comparisons are more like before and after air brushing. I think her nose is actually bigger now (because of aging). In the 70's - 90's, her nose was small and perky but in the Boston dvd close up's her nose looks wider at the nostrils.
I agree. Her nose seems bigger to me now also and I don't think she's had work done on it. :shrug:

SapphireSister
11-29-2005, 02:36 PM
Sorry for my attitude SapphireSister, but of all the plastic surgery discussions regarding Stevie, i.e. facelifts, liposuction, neck work, I think a nose job is the one that I find most hard to believe. Not that you started it, but after being a fan of hers for so long and drawing her picture for years, make dolls and really studying her face from as many angles as I could find, her nose is the one feature I find most unique about her face and I would bet my life that it has never been worked on. Primarily because of everything you already mentioned about her fearing it would affect her voice.

I WISH she would have the hole closed off through surgery even if it changed the appearance of it, just to see if it would allow her to sing like she used to.

No worries, I get sick of hearing about it as well but every now and then I put my 2 cents in. Bottom line is I truly don't care if she has or hasn't had plastic surgery. Whether she looks 87 or 57 I'm going to love her and her music and hope that most importantly she is happy on the inside. I just know there is so much pressure for celebrities to look young since they are constantly under public scrutiny and that cannot be fun for anyone.